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7:00pm Thursday 24th July 2008
"SIN City" could be set for a showdown come the next election.
Theresa May, the Tories spokesman for women announced yesterday the party would make it easier for councils to stop new clubs opening if they get into power.
The head of Bournemouth council welcomed the idea - but the town's club owners saw it as "ludicrous" and unnecessary legislation.
Lap dancing clubs are currently classed in the same category as pubs or coffee shops for licensing purposes.
Theresa May said this "silenced communities" and forced councils to pass licences.
Tobias Ellwood, MP for Bournemouth East, said: "There is clear ambiguity in the law."
Richard Carr's leisure company Future 3000 which is in administration includes the lap dancing club Wiggle.
He said: "The UK keeps passing more laws but why do we need to me more controlled than our European neighbours?
"They have clubs everywhere.
"To me it seems ridiculous. If you don't like them, don't go in them."
Glen Nicie the managing director of For Your Eyes Only, opposed more legislation, especially dual licences to sell alcohol and providing sexual encounters'.
"Our business is sexy but labelling it as sexual encounters' suggests there's physical contact," he said. "Most people accept it now as harmless fun."
He said local councils could already oppose clubs through planning regulations, adding: "I have spent £45,000 in the process of getting planning permission from Bournemouth and Southampton councils."
Bournemouth Council leader Stephen MacLoughlin "welcomed" the prospect of extra powers.
He added: "Some people don't think we should have these establishments at all, but we thinking should have a balanced view."
Cllr Andrew Morgan, head of the licensing board, said: "It's a sensitive subject and there's concern in the community but we also need to remember these are legal business that operate in the law.
"We've had no applications of that sort since I came on to the board in last May. I believe the last one was an application for within the Imax building but that was withdrawn."
The number of lap-dancing clubs in Britain has doubled to around 300 since 2004.
David Clutterbuck, head of The East Cliff and Town Centre resident association, has dubbed Bournemouth "Sin City" for its four lap dancing clubs.
Mike Pickering, Bournemouth says...
11:31pm Thu 24 Jul 08
muffin the mule, wallisdown says...
5:18am Fri 25 Jul 08
Mike Pickering wrote:feeling a little left out,old and useless mike ?,dont you like young people to have fun ? what have you got against naked women ? i love them !!you should get out more.......try rambling in the purbecks away from it all its trully loverly out there but make sure you are home before the sun goes down because they switch on the electric bulbs and people dance and drink strange 'falling down juices'and appear to enjoy themselves and you wouldnt want to witness any of that stuff.goodness its worse some nights when really old people go to a place called 'the pavilion' to watch young people(like that man..Micheal Ball) singing and dancing and even appearing to enjoy themselves,some 'oldies' have even been seen out after 10 o'clock at night !!! when everyone knows they ought to be at home drinking cocoa, making out their wills and preparing for death ... the real world trully is outrageous.the sooner it all ends ,the better- you are so right !!!! Pickering for Mayor
Shut them all.
I'd rather people ran around fighting and smashing each other with bottles than go in one of these places.
Roll on the great depression when noone can afford to go out, the pubs and the clubs all close because they are uselessly expensive and populated by idiots, and we can finally nail the boards up in this town, turn in all into flats and be done with it.
Bournemouth is a failure, and the end can't come soon enough.
Poolemaninscotland, scotland says...
7:44am Fri 25 Jul 08
fiona, Bournemouth says...
9:21am Fri 25 Jul 08
JLC2, here says...
9:25am Fri 25 Jul 08
John, Poole says...
9:31am Fri 25 Jul 08
Poolemaninscotland wrote:I think that there are more apposite reasons than you suggest as to why he is called Muffin the Mule.But then again, the answer may lie in your second sentence!
Now we know why your called Muffin the Mule because you talk out of your ****!!!!! What planet do you live on and why should women be exploited for your own personal perversions. Think about that Muffin
davey, bournemouth says...
10:24am Fri 25 Jul 08
Nigel Blumenthal, says...
10:52am Fri 25 Jul 08
JLC2, here says...
11:06am Fri 25 Jul 08
Christopher, Wallisdown & Winton West says...
11:18am Fri 25 Jul 08
JLC2, here says...
11:32am Fri 25 Jul 08
Phil, Poole says...
11:35am Fri 25 Jul 08
laurie marsh, australia says...
11:36am Fri 25 Jul 08
laurie marsh, australia says...
1:16pm Fri 25 Jul 08
debbie2110, bournemouth says...
1:34pm Fri 25 Jul 08
muffin the mule, wallisdown says...
2:06pm Fri 25 Jul 08
debbie2110 wrote:if you want to go and see naked men ,the VERY popular ADONIS show at BUMBLES will surely fit you in .ladies are not excluded from any of this and in fact i know they REALLY enjoy themselves - isnt that disgusting eh !!! go for it girls
I have nothing against these clubs and if there were one with scantily clad men parading about Id consider using it for a birthday, hen night or fun occasion. They do however need to be regulated better and certainly should be away from residential areas.
They should also be more carefully monitored in regard to the level of bribery that goes on Spearmint Rhino staff are permitted to park in resident only parking bays and on double yellow lines and the local authorities wont do anything to remedy it. I was actually told by one of the security staff that they are untouchable by wardens and law as they pay their dues! I have witnessed two traffic wardens laughing with the driver of one of the staff vehicles when I complained about their constant use of the resident parking bays, and seen the level of police assistance when I was threatened and intimidated by the untouchable security guy (yep, if you guessed none youre correct!).
Apparently, the reason why they get away with it is down to certain public employees getting preferential treatment when they visit the club. This kind of racket needs to stop, not the clubs they are essentially just a bit of a laugh and somewhere for stag nights to end up so their braying and overexcitement is not forced on the majority of us. Only wish there were cheaper venues like this so all stag parties would be off the streets and some for the hens too!
Regulate them properly and site them in out of town venues the punters will still go and there will be less opposition if sensitive people dont have to walk past suggestive bill boards and dancers on their cigarette breaks. The back of Castlepoint would make a good site for a super casino and strip joint then the councillors will do something about the joke of traffic flow and access roads!
As for Wiggles and Richard Carr his personal cash flow and wealth have only been affected slightly and this liquidation was a dot on the cards when he declared his likelihood of moving to Florida! Nothing to do with the club not making money, as Im sure the subsequent owner will attest!
laurie marsh, australia says...
2:20pm Fri 25 Jul 08
muffin the mule, wallisdown says...
2:22pm Fri 25 Jul 08
Phil wrote:well ...your wrong !! as a local taxi driver i take many of these girls to and from work ,they do it very willingly they earn a lot of money some nights and i dont hear any complaints so why should it trouble any of you if you never go through the door you'll never see anything so how can you comment. its critism for the sake of it and totally unfounded
Why's everyone getting in a flap? From what I've heard, they don't even show them in Bournemouth strip clubs!
muffin the mule, wallisdown says...
2:27pm Fri 25 Jul 08
laurie marsh wrote:and i thought it was a form of **** ,glad it amuses you,have you set yourself up as my stalker? can you remember the last time you got and erection? or is such a mucky thing not allowed in your god-forsaken life
Muffin the mule,
According to Wikipediea your name translates to a "fairly tastless, sterile, hybrid"!
Seems like you chose well!
Your serve!
muffin the mule, wallisdown says...
2:28pm Fri 25 Jul 08
laurie marsh wrote:and i thought it was a form of **** ,glad it amuses you,have you set yourself up as my stalker? can you remember the last time you got and erection? or is such a mucky thing not allowed in your god-forsaken life
Muffin the mule,
According to Wikipediea your name translates to a "fairly tastless, sterile, hybrid"!
Seems like you chose well!
Your serve!
Phil, Poole says...
2:36pm Fri 25 Jul 08
muffin the mule wrote:Eh? So they do reveal all?
Phil wrote:well ...your wrong !! as a local taxi driver i take many of these girls to and from work ,they do it very willingly they earn a lot of money some nights and i dont hear any complaints so why should it trouble any of you if you never go through the door you'll never see anything so how can you comment. its critism for the sake of it and totally unfounded
Why's everyone getting in a flap? From what I've heard, they don't even show them in Bournemouth strip clubs!
debbie2110, bournemouth says...
3:06pm Fri 25 Jul 08
Tru Belle, purbeck says...
3:10pm Fri 25 Jul 08
Trifecta, Southbourne says...
3:15pm Fri 25 Jul 08
debbie2110, bournemouth says...
3:32pm Fri 25 Jul 08
debbie2110, bournemouth says...
3:38pm Fri 25 Jul 08
Mike Pickering, Bournemouth says...
3:56pm Fri 25 Jul 08
john, christchurch says...
4:15pm Fri 25 Jul 08
laurie marsh, australia says...
4:19pm Fri 25 Jul 08
muffin the mule, wallisdown says...
4:22pm Fri 25 Jul 08
Mike Pickering wrote:funnily enough so did i,Chelsea Village,the Stateside Centre,The Outlook ,i lived in Glen Fern road next to the synagogue and above the then, Spanish Club so dont 'son' me ,i sensed your humour,but it would be lost on many here.i have seen Bournemouth through three and a half decades back when Richard Carr had just got off potty training ,but i love change,never want to go back to that dismal era - sure some aspects of modern society arent pleasent but that is not at my personal cost and i dont live or care about other peoples lives i'm busy living my own,so stick to the point ..Son !!
lol@muffin the mule..
If only you knew who I was or what I had done in this town (I used to be a manager in club, and worked in clubs and pubs for 10 years, back what club really were clubs..Kevin's House, Madisons, etc..)
Literally, I've had more rioutous nights and days and next nights out than you've had hot dinners, son.
muffin the mule, wallisdown says...
4:27pm Fri 25 Jul 08
Phil wrote:you heard it here first so get a knife in the slot of your piggy back and hit the town Phil ,as for 'extra's' well personally i think thats a load of rubbish spoken by people who know nothing.these are not Brothels
muffin the mule wrote:Eh? So they do reveal all?
Phil wrote:well ...your wrong !! as a local taxi driver i take many of these girls to and from work ,they do it very willingly they earn a lot of money some nights and i dont hear any complaints so why should it trouble any of you if you never go through the door you'll never see anything so how can you comment. its critism for the sake of it and totally unfounded
Why's everyone getting in a flap? From what I've heard, they don't even show them in Bournemouth strip clubs!
muffin the mule, wallisdown says...
4:34pm Fri 25 Jul 08
laurie marsh wrote:so what point are you trying to make you silly man,its just a user name ,i understand 'muffin the mule' is a form of beas ti ality.can you relate to that bit of humour or is it to difficult for you
Muffin,
If I can call you by your fist name, (it means tasteless by the way), I did reply to your tasteless comment but it got deleted for some reason.
My comment was neither sexual (which would not be appropriate for someone who names themselves after a sterile hybrid), or about stalking since I have no wish to bring you into my sights!
As for "God forsaken", how would you know?
Does this mean that at some stage you have driven PAST some church?
Suggest you drop in some time it might straighten you out!
You obviously need help from somewhere!
Mike Pickering, Bournemouth says...
4:43pm Fri 25 Jul 08
Chelsea Village,the Stateside Centre,The Outlook
fiona, Bournemouth says...
4:55pm Fri 25 Jul 08
fiona, Bournemouth says...
4:56pm Fri 25 Jul 08
Wolfstan, Bournemouth says...
9:22pm Fri 25 Jul 08
fiona, Bournemouth says...
10:29pm Fri 25 Jul 08
laurie marsh, australia says...
3:13pm Sat 26 Jul 08
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muffin the mule, wallisdown says...
9:23pm Thu 24 Jul 08