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7:00am Friday 25th July 2008
Comments (25)Aggressive residents who threaten council staff will be caught on camera at Poole's civic tip.
A head cam is being used on trial at the Nuffield Household Waste and Recycling Centre in an effort to combat increasing abusive behaviour.
There have been a number of serious incidents, which have threatened the safety of staff. During 2006/7 there were seven reported incidents of abusive behaviour.
In one, an irate member of the public drove a car at a member of staff. No-one was injured but the individual concerned was banned from the site.
"Abusive and aggressive behaviour towards members of staff is totally unacceptable and will not be tolerated," said Cllr Don Collier, cabinet portfolio holder for the environment.
"By introducing the head cam trial, we are hoping to provide the staff at the Nuffield site with an additional element of protection."
Borough of Poole's environmental and consumer protection is holding a one-month trial, intended mainly as a deterrent.
However any footage of abusive behaviour could be used as evidence for a future prosecution.
The Video Vest W3000 is equipped with two cameras, one worn as headgear with a second attached to the lapel of the reflective vest.
The security camera records continuously but the memory is wiped clean at 30-second intervals.
If an incident takes place the wearer can activate the camera, which stores the previous 30 seconds. The device can record images and sound, which are stored and accessed for instant playback.
"If the head cam proves to be a successful deterrent it will result in permanent use of the equipment," said Cllr Collier.
The site already operates a CCTV system and the head cam wearer will be clearly identified.
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fedupwithjobsworths, Moordown says...
8:02am Fri 25 Jul 08
rayc, Poole says...
8:11am Fri 25 Jul 08
How many people have the Poole staff reported to the Police for threatening behaviour? I bet these cameras will be used to prosecute people who happen to put a bit of metal in the wood skip etc and have nothing to do with 'security'.
canfordheath, Canford Heath says...
8:40am Fri 25 Jul 08
gobzilla, says...
9:53am Fri 25 Jul 08
John, Poole says...
10:04am Fri 25 Jul 08
Perhaps, posters on Richard Carr should transfer to this rubbish site as it would appear to be the most appropriate place to continue their comments, before it too is consigned to Room 101.
Phil, Poole says...
10:22am Fri 25 Jul 08
John wrote:Rubbish site? You hit the nail on the head there! I don't know why they ask for comments and then delete them all. If there's an offensive comment, why not delete that instead of the whole thread?
As the lucky 21st poster on the Richard Carr site, I was sooo sorry to see comments on Richard Carr join the travellers in the Echo's Room 101.
Perhaps, posters on Richard Carr should transfer to this rubbish site as it would appear to be the most appropriate place to continue their comments, before it too is consigned to Room 101.
If they continue to censor everything, many people won't bother commenting any more. Do they want people's input or not?
John, Poole says...
10:31am Fri 25 Jul 08
I chose my words advisedly, lest the Echo chose to dump them!
benny, bournemouth says...
10:34am Fri 25 Jul 08
Grumble, Oakdale says...
11:10am Fri 25 Jul 08
RichT, Christchurch says...
1:02pm Fri 25 Jul 08
gobzilla wrote:I'm not sure how this comment relates to the topic being discussed!
As a woman who walks every where this is the weather the cuckoo likes and so do I, I heard him at 7 46am again at 8 02am and 8 11 am, I suppose hell be spouting it off till after midnight poor wretch.
In Absentia, Bournemouth says...
1:23pm Fri 25 Jul 08
These days most people seem to think that they have the right to do whatever they like and it's their bad manners that's the problem.
Whenver I've seen people turned away from the tip at Milhams, it's usually been traders trying to dump their rubbish without paying to do so. They will have charged their client to clear the site, so the Council has every right to expect to collect a fee for trade waste.
I also see no problem with being expected to sort the rubbish and dump it in different areas. Failure to comply is just lazy & selfish.
Beaker, Bournemouth says...
1:25pm Fri 25 Jul 08
laurie marsh, australia says...
2:03pm Fri 25 Jul 08
Comments censored!
McDonalds + F.A.,
Great! If you want your kid to waddle out with their "Hero" visit McDonalds first!
Comments, denied!
Carl Barron, Dorset says...
2:13pm Fri 25 Jul 08
Quote Any footage of abusive behaviour could be used as evidence for a future prosecution.
Reply This is technically Not correct, unless the Cap or the persons clothing has a notice with yellow background and black image of a CCTV.
Any such evidence cannot be used in a Law Court
Check it out all CCTV must be accompanied by a warning sign or signs.
Hence PC Plod with CCTV cannot use thier evidence, unless they likewise have a visible sign as mentioned.
If you have been prosecuted by such evidence you have a dismissal and claim.
debbie2110, bournemouth says...
2:49pm Fri 25 Jul 08
Guess I must have been brainwashed by the same folk who thought it would be a good idea to put these head-cams into action! Wrong move and looks very silly! Cant wait for the first claim of injury at work due to one of these things causing a headache or neck injury! (Yes, I know they are very light, but if staff in a nightclub can claim industrial injury due to level of noise then anything can happen!)
JON, THE OBSERVER says...
3:33pm Fri 25 Jul 08
I was sworn at by a council worker at the Nuffield site.
I put chipboard where I was told it should go when I first entered the site, then another council worker came up and told me to pick it up and move it. I advised him that a colleague of his told me to put it where I did and I wasn't going to move it again. He became aggressive and foul mouthed, I asked for his name and he refused to give me it. (With many expletives) and told me I was banned from the site.
When I got home I telephone the Nuffield refuse disposal office and reported him. I received an apology from the person on the phone and was told that the council worker did not have the power to ban me but they would investigate the matter. They took my details but I never heard anything back and that was months ago.
Will this type of thuggery be recorded when the staff are so threatening or is it just for the residents to be filmed after provocation.
Mike Pickering, Bournemouth says...
4:36pm Fri 25 Jul 08
They are called eyes.
I can only assume that the cameras are to record images of wrong-doing (at the tip, that well known centre of lawlessness), for recall at another time.
I too have this facility, it is called 'memory'.
This is absolutely the most ridiculous thing I have heard in my life.
Try strapping a camera onto George King's hat, and see what happens.
Never any trouble when he worked down there, I can tell you.
Hotdog, Poole says...
4:40pm Fri 25 Jul 08
This is utterly ridiculous and over the top!
fedupwithjobsworths, Moordown says...
5:11pm Fri 25 Jul 08
Andy, poole says...
6:43pm Fri 25 Jul 08
Beaker wrote:Maybe you should go and work there for a few days and you might change your tune. Those lads have to go through the rubbish that people cant be bothered to separated. Being abused by members of the public because of their lazy. Those guys work at the crap end of the stick everyday and its people like you who say the your council tax pays our wages, well think about this if you recycled properly then we wouldnt need so many staff, therefore a small reduction in coucil tax. So remember to recycle!
Well if they didn't have such a bunch of unreasonable idiots working down there they may not get so much grief. I turned up with a valid residents parking permit. The bloke wrongly turned me away. I went home (about 4 miles) got my council tax bill. Then a different bloke on the gate let me in with the parking permit. Unacceptable and utter RUBBISH!
MIG, Poole says...
7:21pm Fri 25 Jul 08
There are signs already so they would apply to any camera and recording equipment. However these cameras and those used by Police Officers are NOT CCTV as such in that the image is not capable of being monitored at another location and it would be reasonable to assume that the person whose image was being recorded would be aware of that fact due to the camera itself being conspicuous.
Evidential use - A portable 'CCTV' camera is the same as a hand held video or still camera. The images themselves support the direct verbal evidence of the person using the equipment. A witness would be required to 'produce' the images as an exhibit.
Carl Barron, Dorset says...
10:21pm Fri 25 Jul 08
Posted by: MIG, Poole on 7:21pm today
Quote However these cameras and those used by Police Officers are NOT CCTV as such in that the image is not capable of being monitored at another location.
Reply Good points you make MIG .
Yet in Law the term CCTV is used too loosely , and should be used more specifically.Such as CCR's Closed Circuit Recorders.
Any images recorded can be transmitted to a remote location as is often the case.
Most PC's may NOT be aware that the unit he carries can at will be activated to transmit to a remote location.
The Head Cams can also be used to record the activates of Officers whilst on the beat.
No one is beyond suspicion these days.
paul, poole says...
12:10pm Mon 28 Jul 08
Slightly right of Attilla The, poole says...
1:53pm Mon 28 Jul 08
NEW WEAPON: People who are abusive and aggressive won't be able to hide from evidence caught on camera
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