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7:39am Tuesday 13th November 2007
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THIS is the mystery landmark tourist attraction proposed for Poole - a giant sundial called the Solar Pyramid.
Today the Daily Echo can reveal details of the enormous structure, which has been called the world's largest timepiece and the United Kingdom's largest artwork.
Originally proposed for a Derbyshire town and described as the most exciting "art meets science" project in the UK, its size for Poole is unconfirmed.
But the three polished steel wings could stretch 40-45 metres into the sky, casting a shadow across the 65-metre piazza, with the potential to attract 400,000 visitors a year.
The Borough of Poole has been approached by a private company eager to bring the world class attraction to the town, and has identified its waterside Harbourside Park (Baiter) as a potential location.
However the first reaction of Baiter resident and Parkstone Bay Association chairman David Howard was: "Over our dead bodies. I think residents will be rioting over this."
He said: "To even consider placing such an attraction' adjacent to a densely-populated residential area immediately bordering this park, is an act of irresponsibility."
It would use up most of our open space, cause traffic chaos and be an engineering nightmare to build on reclaimed land, he said.
"It has the smell of Dolphin Quays about it which started the same way - excluding the public, in smoke-filled rooms," he said.
Designed by leading engineers, astronomers and artists, the scientific sundial and fine art sculpture would loom over the town.
It would tower over the 20m Angel of the North, but would be dwarfed by Portsmouth's 170m Spinnaker Tower.
As well as being a tourist and education attraction, the project, where visitors would be able to explore time, would create a number of jobs.
Council leader Cllr Brain Leverett has welcomed it as an "exciting proposition" and said: "Early reactions have been extremely positive.
"However, before we can be certain that the Solar Pyramid would be right for Poole, a lot of assessment and evaluation work needs to be undertaken and work will progress over the next few months."
Project architect and artist Richard Lester Swain said: "The Solar Pyramid would be a thing of considerable beauty.
"It would be a piece of sculpture that offers people an opportunity for quiet reflection but combined with this it would have real scientific interest, an important educational role and it would contribute to the local economy."
It has the support of the Royal Observatory, Greenwich, and the high-tech sundial aims to create a moving demonstration of the link between time and space and the power of the sun on everyday life.
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Phil, Poole says...
8:21am Tue 13 Nov 07
Charlie, says...
8:23am Tue 13 Nov 07
Presumably it will cast a giant shadow over the area to its north.
PokesdownMark, Pokesdown says...
8:42am Tue 13 Nov 07
The scheme appears to have a parallel sales channel in the form of "moments in time" which you can buy for the sum of £49.75 - involves something being engraved onto the side of the structure. So basically its a glorified advertising board!
2 relevant web sites:
http://www.solarpyra
mid.co.uk/
http://news.bbc.co.u
k/1/hi/england/derby
shire/6981214.stm
Also mention on Labour MP's website though the cost of engraving is £1001 there (business rates you know):
http://www.nataschae
ngelmp.org.uk/camp_c
ons.php
Seems like this is a money making scheme really. Which is not a bad thing in itself. But I think tradition suggests engravings on monuments (or things that look like monuments) are earned and not bought. So this all feels a bit tawdry to me.
fedupwithjobsworths, Moordown says...
8:53am Tue 13 Nov 07
JLC, here says...
9:01am Tue 13 Nov 07
What's it actually got to do with the area?
Phil, Poole says...
9:07am Tue 13 Nov 07
godzilla, hamworthy says...
9:40am Tue 13 Nov 07
Charlie, says...
9:49am Tue 13 Nov 07
jobsworthwatch, Bournemouth says...
9:52am Tue 13 Nov 07
John, Poole says...
11:23am Tue 13 Nov 07
denis, bournemouth says...
11:27am Tue 13 Nov 07
the architect thinks it is such a wonderful thing, let him build it...in his own back garden.
Why waste public money on such an eyesore
Richard, Bournemouth says...
11:31am Tue 13 Nov 07
the owl, says...
11:32am Tue 13 Nov 07
pilot, Bournemouth says...
11:37am Tue 13 Nov 07
Gastines, St.Malo ex Bournemouth says...
11:47am Tue 13 Nov 07
Terry Pardy, Broadstone says...
11:48am Tue 13 Nov 07
jonnie s, bournemouth says...
11:48am Tue 13 Nov 07
Ted, Bournemouth says...
11:48am Tue 13 Nov 07
John, Poole says...
12:03pm Tue 13 Nov 07
jonnie s wrote:If this is considered 'moving in the right direction' for Cameron's Conservatives, let the local Leader of Poole's Tory Council stay 'excited' about it, at his peril.
Dont like change do we you lot. I think it would be a great idea. We need something to bring visitors to the area all year round. With surf reef and innovative sculptural landmarks we might be moving in the right direction.
life on mars, Poole says...
12:24pm Tue 13 Nov 07
the owl wrote:No they have not
They already got one in Derby and its plastered with graffiti this will be the same cant we stop it
http://news.bbc.co.u
k/1/hi/england/70914
17.stm
Lets go for it. At least it will be better then seeing blocks of tiny flats being built by developers. But remember councillors, you will not be able to get any council tax from it or will you ?
No body seemed to like the Angel of the North now its a local landmark.
Richard, Bournemouth says...
1:06pm Tue 13 Nov 07
life on mars wrote:This 'artwork' has been in negotiation in Derbyshire for 7 years and now the artist is desperately trying to push the idea onto someone else. It's quite clear that it failed to secure funding and support in the Midlands and I'm amazed that Poole Council would see this of being of local benefit.
the owl wrote: They already got one in Derby and its plastered with graffiti this will be the same cant we stop itNo they have not http://news.bbc.co.u k/1/hi/england/70914 17.stm Lets go for it. At least it will be better then seeing blocks of tiny flats being built by developers. But remember councillors, you will not be able to get any council tax from it or will you ? No body seemed to like the Angel of the North now its a local landmark.
It'd cost a small fortune having the graffiti cleaned from it every day. Why should Poole Council Tax payers pick up the tab for this folly?
Surely, the South West Development Agency would follow their East Midlands counterparts and withold funding? That leaves private sponsorship and the prospect of the pyramid being covered in tacky advertising.
Very Old Man, Poole says...
1:20pm Tue 13 Nov 07
Have the Council actually thought this one through? It would appear not.
Very Old Man, Poole says...
1:25pm Tue 13 Nov 07
Have the Council actually thought this one through? It would appear not.
Simon, London says...
2:25pm Tue 13 Nov 07
It looks nice - depends where it's built though. Will mean some publicity and interest, which can only be good?
philip.eades, Civic Centre, Poole says...
2:34pm Tue 13 Nov 07
Please note that the Cabinet agreed last Tuesday to spend a significant sum of money in investigating this eyesore - I'm not allowed to tell you how much because its confidential!!!
Cllr Philip Eades
Phil, Poole says...
2:34pm Tue 13 Nov 07
rebus, Corfe Mullen says...
2:39pm Tue 13 Nov 07
Maybe if they put it near Baiter it would help to hide those awfull looking blocks of flats they've just built...
Richard, Bournemouth says...
2:53pm Tue 13 Nov 07
philip.eades wrote:Cllr Eades
Perhaps Cllr Brian Leverett will read these objections seriously and not treat them with contempt as he did my representation to last weeks secret Cabinet meeting which told him what the public reaction would be - a failed project from another location to be placed on one of Poole's most beautiful pieces of public open space spoiling both public and private views of the Harbour, Brownsea, the Purbecks and Sandbanks creating traffic and parking horrors and costing the Council fortunes Please note that the Cabinet agreed last Tuesday to spend a significant sum of money in investigating this eyesore - I'm not allowed to tell you how much because its confidential!!! Cllr Philip Eades
If you 'whistleblew' on this, would'nt you be protected under the Public Interest Disclosure Act 1998?
snoff, Poole says...
3:09pm Tue 13 Nov 07
Phil wrote:monorail,monorail,mo
So why did they move the project from Derbyshire? Because the East Midlands Development Agency wouldn't stump up any cash for it, that's why. Which raises the question: which local agency is willing to give financial support for the project in Poole? Perhaps Poole Borough Council itself is providing the cash? If so, I think the developers have seen them coming. Perhaps I should approach them with my idea of a monorail?!
norail!!!!!
some of the locals on this site are like charactors from the simpsons :)
snoff, Poole says...
3:12pm Tue 13 Nov 07
Very Old Man wrote:thats why we need the monorail!!!!!!!!!
Another 400,000 visitors a year? At the moment the Old Town area cannot cope with the ammount of traffic that hits us in the summer as it is, the roads come to a standstill on a daily basis. Have the Council actually thought this one through? It would appear not.
derek, dorset says...
3:15pm Tue 13 Nov 07
tont, says...
3:21pm Tue 13 Nov 07
JIFFY, POOLE says...
3:26pm Tue 13 Nov 07
Tru Belle, purbeck says...
3:49pm Tue 13 Nov 07
E.L.M., Dorset says...
4:10pm Tue 13 Nov 07
fedupwithjobsworths wrote:How predictable,some one had to compare this with the Imax,please explain the connection,the Imax is a Cinema.
Poole's IMAX?
PETE WOODLEY, says...
4:51pm Tue 13 Nov 07
E.L.M. wrote:eyesore eyesore eyesore. thats what we all mean.
fedupwithjobsworths wrote:How predictable,some one had to compare this with the Imax,please explain the connection,the Imax is a Cinema.
Poole's IMAX?
PETE WOODLEY, says...
4:52pm Tue 13 Nov 07
E.L.M. wrote:eyesore eyesore eyesore. thats what we all mean.
fedupwithjobsworths wrote:How predictable,some one had to compare this with the Imax,please explain the connection,the Imax is a Cinema.
Poole's IMAX?
PETE WOODLEY, says...
4:53pm Tue 13 Nov 07
E.L.M. wrote:eyesore eyesore eyesore. thats what we all mean.
fedupwithjobsworths wrote:How predictable,some one had to compare this with the Imax,please explain the connection,the Imax is a Cinema.
Poole's IMAX?
John, Poole says...
5:01pm Tue 13 Nov 07
also helped to bring about the downfall of the short-sighted Councillors who proposed it, and hopefully this pyramid will do the same in Poole.
Roy, King's Bere says...
5:09pm Tue 13 Nov 07
Build It!!!
accountability, Chichester says...
5:43pm Tue 13 Nov 07
geof, charminster says...
5:52pm Tue 13 Nov 07
Trevor Robbins, Poole says...
6:25pm Tue 13 Nov 07
Tru Belle, purbeck says...
6:31pm Tue 13 Nov 07
If there is money to burn , how about ploughing it back into much needed bus services etc?
What a lot of NEW AGE TRENDY rubbish, this idea is a lunatic as palm trees and as bad as the semi quaver on Poole quay !!
Charlie, says...
6:32pm Tue 13 Nov 07
And whose money have they agreed to spend? Ours!!!!
When will they remember that the council has no money of its own - it all been collected from us. Of course, they'll have to cut the budget for other services like for the elderly and vulnerable - this is far more inmportant.
G N Leader, Hamworthy says...
6:36pm Tue 13 Nov 07
Benjamin, Hamworthy.
Vikki27, Poole says...
7:07pm Tue 13 Nov 07
1) From what source is the money being taken to fund this venture?
2) He says that early reactions have been very positive. Whose reactions are these and what percentage of people these people have supported the decision?
3) Were the people who supported the decision informed where the sundial is to be placed or were they merely asked whether it would be nice to put it in Poole?
3) How have they estimated this figure of 400,000 visitors per annum?
The bottom line of this is that although I'm sure it could be an attractive piece of artwork, it is ludicrous to destroy a large portion of much used and appreciated land to erect a monument that has been offered second-hand, following rejection from somewhere else.
I wonder when the people who make these decisions will think with their hearts instead of their wallets and see the natural beauty around them rather than what they can make from it?
And I also would like to know how it is that if they have all this apparently disposable extra money (our money), they are not using it to fund things the town has been crying out for for a long time?
The-bleeding-obvious, Bournemouth says...
7:48pm Tue 13 Nov 07
PokesdownMark, Pokesdown says...
8:00pm Tue 13 Nov 07
philip.eades wrote:Very well done for speaking out.
Perhaps Cllr Brian Leverett will read these objections seriously and not treat them with contempt as he did my representation to last weeks secret Cabinet meeting which told him what the public reaction would be - a failed project from another location to be placed on one of Poole's most beautiful pieces of public open space spoiling both public and private views of the Harbour, Brownsea, the Purbecks and Sandbanks creating traffic and parking horrors and costing the Council fortunes
Please note that the Cabinet agreed last Tuesday to spend a significant sum of money in investigating this eyesore - I'm not allowed to tell you how much because its confidential!!!
Cllr Philip Eades
This figure should not be confidential. What is the justification for the secrecy? It is our money they are spending - well I'm in Bournemouth so it isn't... but you know what I mean!
Down with council secrecy! Lets have transparent accounting now!
jobsworthwatch, Bournemouth says...
8:24pm Tue 13 Nov 07
airbus, parkstone says...
8:52pm Tue 13 Nov 07
PETE WOODLEY, says...
8:56pm Tue 13 Nov 07
Very Old Man wrote:A very good point,i do not think the roads can take it.
Another 400,000 visitors a year? At the moment the Old Town area cannot cope with the ammount of traffic that hits us in the summer as it is, the roads come to a standstill on a daily basis.
Have the Council actually thought this one through? It would appear not.
ctessex, London says...
11:50pm Tue 13 Nov 07
Mike Pickering, Bournemouth says...
5:22am Wed 14 Nov 07
If I managed to get a spare hour and took a stroll down to baiter, and if the sun was out, by simply observing the 200 foot 'hour hand' of the shadow I could make an accurate record of the time that dog owners were allowing their dogs to foul the footpaths and grass.
Would it need to be on some kind of huge pivoting mechanism so it could be wound back for British Summer Time ?
johnathan livingston seagull, wallisdown says...
7:29am Wed 14 Nov 07
johnathan livingston seagull, wallisdown says...
7:33am Wed 14 Nov 07
MEA, says...
7:35am Wed 14 Nov 07
johnathan livingston seagull wrote:Baiter Park is not the right place for such a tall art piece. Please do not let our views of the harbour be spoilt. We have already had to put up with the monster look-out tower on the quay, which blocks your view when approaching the quay from the High Street.
oh - cant wait................ ..,excitement coursing through my body. huh
johnathan livingston seagull, wallisdown says...
7:42am Wed 14 Nov 07
MEA wrote:please please ...i am not in favour of it .
johnathan livingston seagull wrote: oh - cant wait................ ..,excitement coursing through my body. huhBaiter Park is not the right place for such a tall art piece. Please do not let our views of the harbour be spoilt. We have already had to put up with the monster look-out tower on the quay, which blocks your view when approaching the quay from the High Street.
Ham, Poole says...
8:51am Wed 14 Nov 07
Portsmouth tower is set in a new large development and therefore it was appropriate to have a new focal point. Just a shame about the design.
The Angel of the north is set in an open space and is a piece of stand alone art.
This monstrosity has been been designed; as you can see by the graphics to sit in an open space and to be viewed from a distance (a long, long distance). I would suggest that they leave it in Derbishire and we can be happy with the view we have of it from here.
Regarding the open space of the park, I believe that the people of Poole are concerned about development taking their open space. Our council is constantly fighting developers over open space and even charge an open space contribution under their Planning Policy for some developments. Why fill the open space of Baiter park with this "art work" when there is such a struggle for the council to retain open space. This sounds crazy!
In conclusion, this sculpture is not specifically designed for Poole and Baiter park, it is a second hand, hand me down that people don't want in Derbyshire. It seems whoever conceived it in Derbyshire and spent all that hard earned tax payers money doesn't want to face the embarrassment of their mistake and would like to off load it on us.
p.s. In case I didn't make myself clear I strongly object to the proposal. Please don't waste any more of our hard earned tax money even considering it for Poole.
tont, says...
9:47am Wed 14 Nov 07
E.L.M., Dorset says...
11:33am Wed 14 Nov 07
John wrote:Only if you stand behind it and dont move,as with the Imax,the views are still there.
IMAX blocked out beautiful views across to the Purbecks, as will this structure. It also helped to bring about the downfall of the short-sighted Councillors who proposed it, and hopefully this pyramid will do the same in Poole.
denis, bournemouth says...
11:40am Wed 14 Nov 07
Wake up Poole Council listen to what people are telling you !!!
HEATHER, POOLE says...
12:41pm Wed 14 Nov 07
jonnie s, bournemouth says...
1:23pm Wed 14 Nov 07
ColinLambert, Parkstone says...
2:04pm Wed 14 Nov 07
John Mc Enroe once said................
.. "YOU CANNOT BE SERIOUS".
Is it April the first already??
I suggest Poole Councillors take some time to read the comments from readers of the Echo so that you may understand how misguided this plan is and change your comments before the whole thing makes a complete laughing stock out of Poole Council.
Hopefully ITV will once again take the opportunity to show the country how misguided some of the local decisions are here in Poole, this time BEFORE it happens.
As a life long 'True Blue' Conservative, this is enough to make me vote Liberal next time. Cllr Eades seems to be the only voice of sanity in a mad world (or at least a mad Council chamber!)
Sidney, London says...
2:37pm Wed 14 Nov 07
Tru Belle, purbeck says...
3:38pm Wed 14 Nov 07
It would be like maintaining the Forth bridge, never ending.
Keep it in Derbyshire where life is pretty barren anyway. We have our own beautiful uninterrupted views across the magnificant bay. Any way looking across from here up in the Purbecks , it will look as disgusting as the hundreds of blocks of flats that are being built/have been built in Poole.
Read my lips Poole is on overload, look around you, and council, just wise up, it is our Dorset too
E.L.M., Dorset says...
4:16pm Wed 14 Nov 07
PETE WOODLEY, says...
4:50pm Wed 14 Nov 07
E.L.M. wrote:PATHETIC RAMBLING.SAYS NOTHING.
Today i stood behind the brownsea island ferry kiosk and I could not see the view of the harbour,then I moved away from behind and suddenly the view was there,isnt that amazing!!
tont, says...
5:12pm Wed 14 Nov 07
E.L.M. wrote:So you put yer glsss's on then, bless!!! its easy to forget at your age, my nanna does it all the time,
Today i stood behind the brownsea island ferry kiosk and I could not see the view of the harbour,then I moved away from behind and suddenly the view was there,isnt that amazing!!
accountability, Chichester says...
5:34pm Wed 14 Nov 07
E.L.M. wrote:I hope you weren't doing anything you shouldn't behind the kiosk.....!
Today i stood behind the brownsea island ferry kiosk and I could not see the view of the harbour,then I moved away from behind and suddenly the view was there,isnt that amazing!!
Vikki27, Poole says...
5:45pm Wed 14 Nov 07
The fact is, a lot of people, tourists included, love Poole because it has some old fashioned shops and it has it's Old Town. The park has been around for more than a century and the bridge over the railway in the high street has also been there for more than a century. The simple truth is that if it isn't broke, why fix it? Especially when it uses other people's money.
Poole IS a beautiful place and most people don't see the point of taking some of that beauty away with a second-hand piece of scrap metal that could look very beautiful somewhere else!
John, Poole says...
6:04pm Wed 14 Nov 07
E.L.M. wrote:It's amazing that you could see the wood for the trees,E.L.M.,
Today i stood behind the brownsea island ferry kiosk and I could not see the view of the harbour,then I moved away from behind and suddenly the view was there,isnt that amazing!!
because you seem as thick as two short planks!!
red panda, says...
7:13pm Wed 14 Nov 07
not, purbeck says...
7:21pm Wed 14 Nov 07
Fonty Booth, says...
7:24pm Wed 14 Nov 07
accountability wrote:Its parents to blame here, should have stopped this habit years ago, every body knows it sends you blind.
E.L.M. wrote: Today i stood behind the brownsea island ferry kiosk and I could not see the view of the harbour,then I moved away from behind and suddenly the view was there,isnt that amazing!!I hope you weren't doing anything you shouldn't behind the kiosk.....!
PBA, Whitecliff, POOLE says...
7:31pm Wed 14 Nov 07
ming.net
Tru Belle, purbeck says...
9:21pm Wed 14 Nov 07
Doesn't the helicopter land there to disgorge divers or any one else seriously injured?
I think everyone must get very noisy about this disgraceful waste of tax payers money- Tell Derbyshire to ask for it to be deposited in Parliament square, see what reaction that brings!! Seriously get really noisy about this issue, letters help but actions speak louder than words. you can borrow some Purbeck tractors if you want!
John, Poole says...
9:21pm Wed 14 Nov 07
Fonty Booth wrote:Perhaps, this is why our Councillors are so short-sighted!!
accountability wrote:Its parents to blame here, should have stopped this habit years ago, every body knows it sends you blind.E.L.M. wrote: Today i stood behind the brownsea island ferry kiosk and I could not see the view of the harbour,then I moved away from behind and suddenly the view was there,isnt that amazing!!I hope you weren't doing anything you shouldn't behind the kiosk.....!
PETE WOODLEY, says...
9:41pm Wed 14 Nov 07
PETE WOODLEY, says...
9:43pm Wed 14 Nov 07
PETE WOODLEY, says...
9:45pm Wed 14 Nov 07
snowhite, Poole says...
11:42pm Wed 14 Nov 07
John, Poole says...
7:40am Thu 15 Nov 07
uk/ reads only that 'the new Solar Pyramid site will be launched on Wednesday the 5th of December.'
Me Sphinx there may be more bright ideas to come.
I cannot understand the riddle as to why Cllr. Leverett is so keen on this project.Perhaps all the secrets will be revealed in due course.Me Sphinx Not!!
Tru Belle, purbeck says...
8:49am Thu 15 Nov 07
Good advert for razor blades--sponsored by say Gillette or Wilkinson Sword- Are Poole completely stupid. I suppose the BSO can practise underneath, combining real art with crass idiocy--
Charlie, says...
9:47am Thu 15 Nov 07
Then site it at the Royal Observatory at Greenwich!
geoffreysolomon, Poole says...
10:12am Thu 15 Nov 07
To add the grotesque, expensive, and stupid pyramid would in my view be vandalism.
I believe that it would be better for Poole and its residents to remove these experts and with the saving of their salaries provide the much needed park attendants
JIFFY, POOLE says...
10:26am Thu 15 Nov 07
Somebody, Poole says...
11:19am Thu 15 Nov 07
I really dont understand people's reactions some time. Its like they want their town to get held in the past and never ever change.
Think of all the great landmarks- london eye, eiffel tower, spinaker tower, angel of the north- they were all despised and derided when they were first announced, but all quickly came to be loved and became icons for their respective regions.
How anyone can compare this to the IMAX is bwyond me!
The IMAX is a disgustng looking CINEMA. Cimemas dont need to be in beautiful locations. Landmarks HAVE to be in beautiful locations.
I am quite appalled at just how many conservative NIMBY's live in the region- its been crippling both Bmth and Poole for yonks- its why we live in a cultural vacuum, apart from the hard work of a select few.
Somebody, Poole says...
11:22am Thu 15 Nov 07
philip.eades, Civic Centre, Poole says...
11:59am Thu 15 Nov 07
The crucial difference between all of the structures you list (London Eye, Eiffel Tower, Angel of the North and The Spinnkaer Tower) and this Pyramid is that none were sited in such a sensitive and naturally beautiful location - as many other contributors here have said the prime objection is not the traffic the parking or even the structure itself but the fact that it is to be sited on Poole's precious public open space and will spoil the most beautiful public and private views of the harbour , Brownsea and beyond
Many thanks to all those with kind words above - I have taken legal advice regarding whistleblowing and will wait for the results of an FOI request that I know has been made before revealing the sum of money expended on this project to date
Cllr Philip Eades
philip.eades, Civic Centre, Poole says...
11:59am Thu 15 Nov 07
The crucial difference between all of the structures you list (London Eye, Eiffel Tower, Angel of the North and The Spinnkaer Tower) and this Pyramid is that none were sited in such a sensitive and naturally beautiful location - as many other contributors here have said the prime objection is not the traffic the parking or even the structure itself but the fact that it is to be sited on Poole's precious public open space and will spoil the most beautiful public and private views of the harbour , Brownsea and beyond
Many thanks to all those with kind words above - I have taken legal advice regarding whistleblowing and will wait for the results of an FOI request that I know has been made before revealing the sum of money expended on this project to date
Cllr Philip Eades
twobigdogs, parkstone says...
1:52pm Thu 15 Nov 07
PETE WOODLEY, says...
2:34pm Thu 15 Nov 07
Somebody wrote:YOU obviously do not live on the route to the eyesore do you.
Personally, i think it looks great and is a fantastic idea!
I really dont understand people's reactions some time. Its like they want their town to get held in the past and never ever change.
Think of all the great landmarks- london eye, eiffel tower, spinaker tower, angel of the north- they were all despised and derided when they were first announced, but all quickly came to be loved and became icons for their respective regions.
How anyone can compare this to the IMAX is bwyond me!
The IMAX is a disgustng looking CINEMA. Cimemas dont need to be in beautiful locations. Landmarks HAVE to be in beautiful locations.
I am quite appalled at just how many conservative NIMBY's live in the region- its been crippling both Bmth and Poole for yonks- its why we live in a cultural vacuum, apart from the hard work of a select few.
E.L.M., Dorset says...
3:45pm Thu 15 Nov 07
PETE WOODLEY wrote:Dont get it do you??
E.L.M. wrote: Today i stood behind the brownsea island ferry kiosk and I could not see the view of the harbour,then I moved away from behind and suddenly the view was there,isnt that amazing!!PATHETIC RAMBLING.SAYS NOTHING.
Shame!!
Tru Belle, purbeck says...
3:45pm Thu 15 Nov 07
PETE WOODLEY, says...
4:14pm Thu 15 Nov 07
Tru Belle wrote:If your not careful,you will start thinking like E.L.M.and thats getting worse.GET back to the subject.
I think the problem with Poole is , like some men with an inferiority complex, who need fast sports cars or tall gilrfriends and fat long cigars,wait for it---What Poole feels it is lacking is a big light house, a proper one. So the inferioty complex is compounded by lack of length and size of structure hence the need for this new age discarded nonsense. Come on councillors,it is size isn't it, a very middle aged complaint .
Tricky Dicky, twixt here and rhere says...
4:37pm Thu 15 Nov 07
Come on Poole THINK BIG, VERY BIG
Hang on does Paris have a taller structure.....
Tru Belle, purbeck says...
4:59pm Thu 15 Nov 07
By the way, how are your buses doing, er how many people are on the housing list, how many people will go bankrupt soon. How good is your elderly care? Where does your rubbish end up? Parking fees? Social problems, philanthropic gestures if any?? Money to burn, good for you, when it is gone , it is gone!!!!!
Fonty Booth, says...
5:02pm Thu 15 Nov 07
I stood behind the brownsea island ferry kiosk and I could not see ,
Next he went to the train station, stood too close to the fast train, again he saw nothing and almost got sucked off.
E.L.M., Dorset says...
5:05pm Thu 15 Nov 07
Fonty Booth wrote:Would you care to rephrase that.
E.L.M. wrote: I stood behind the brownsea island ferry kiosk and I could not see , Next he went to the train station, stood too close to the fast train, again he saw nothing and almost got sucked off.
E.L.M., Dorset says...
5:12pm Thu 15 Nov 07
PETE WOODLEY wrote:Oh No!!, dont say anything that Mr Woodley would not agree with,he is always right and does not believe in any view that differs from his,no healthy debates for him.Sounds like a bit of a dictator with a blindfold to me.Poor deluded man.
Tru Belle wrote: I think the problem with Poole is , like some men with an inferiority complex, who need fast sports cars or tall gilrfriends and fat long cigars,wait for it---What Poole feels it is lacking is a big light house, a proper one. So the inferioty complex is compounded by lack of length and size of structure hence the need for this new age discarded nonsense. Come on councillors,it is size isn't it, a very middle aged complaint .If your not careful,you will start thinking like E.L.M.and thats getting worse.GET back to the subject.
Tru Belle, purbeck says...
5:39pm Thu 15 Nov 07
Stop your council frittering money
PETE WOODLEY, says...
6:57pm Thu 15 Nov 07
Tru Belle wrote:Trouble is that elm,jlc,snoff,and some others are not really with it,they get their "pleasure" from winding people up,sad really,i mean who could really take people like them to be serious,they are pathetic,and most of the time do not mention the issue being discussed.They would never meet
I think Peter sounds very sensible, similar mindset really, are we all not control freaks.
Stop your council frittering money
someone face to face,or write into the echo with their full name,its the cowards way online.
PETE WOODLEY, says...
7:02pm Thu 15 Nov 07
Tru Belle wrote:Trouble is that elm,jlc,snoff,and some others are not really with it,they get their "pleasure" from winding people up,sad really,i mean who could really take people like them to be serious,they are pathetic,and most of the time do not mention the issue being discussed.They would never meet
I think Peter sounds very sensible, similar mindset really, are we all not control freaks.
Stop your council frittering money
someone face to face,or write into the echo with their full name,its the cowards way online.
Billy Boy, poole says...
9:12pm Thu 15 Nov 07
HORNSEA FLYER, HORNSEA says...
10:02pm Thu 15 Nov 07
snoff, Poole says...
12:54pm Fri 16 Nov 07
E.L.M. wrote:LOL!!!!
Fonty Booth wrote: E.L.M. wrote: I stood behind the brownsea island ferry kiosk and I could not see , Next he went to the train station, stood too close to the fast train, again he saw nothing and almost got sucked off.Would you care to rephrase that.
snoff, Poole says...
12:57pm Fri 16 Nov 07
PETE WOODLEY wrote:Listen, you are a joke and so deserve being joked about. I say, build the Pyramid on Pete Woodley and build a monorail for tourists to get to it :>
Tru Belle wrote: I think Peter sounds very sensible, similar mindset really, are we all not control freaks. Stop your council frittering moneyTrouble is that elm,jlc,snoff,and some others are not really with it,they get their "pleasure" from winding people up,sad really,i mean who could really take people like them to be serious,they are pathetic,and most of the time do not mention the issue being discussed.They would never meet someone face to face,or write into the echo with their full name,its the cowards way online.
PETE WOODLEY, says...
2:52pm Fri 16 Nov 07
snoff wrote:When you have the guts to say things to my face,then you might be called a man,until then you are worse than pathetic.As i keep on sayin KEEP to the subject which is Pooles council wasting public money.
PETE WOODLEY wrote:Listen, you are a joke and so deserve being joked about. I say, build the Pyramid on Pete Woodley and build a monorail for tourists to get to it :>
Tru Belle wrote: I think Peter sounds very sensible, similar mindset really, are we all not control freaks. Stop your council frittering moneyTrouble is that elm,jlc,snoff,and some others are not really with it,they get their "pleasure" from winding people up,sad really,i mean who could really take people like them to be serious,they are pathetic,and most of the time do not mention the issue being discussed.They would never meet someone face to face,or write into the echo with their full name,its the cowards way online.
PETE WOODLEY, says...
2:54pm Fri 16 Nov 07
snoff wrote:When you have the guts to say things to my face,then you might be called a man,until then you are worse than pathetic.As i keep on sayin KEEP to the subject which is Pooles council wasting public money.
PETE WOODLEY wrote:Listen, you are a joke and so deserve being joked about. I say, build the Pyramid on Pete Woodley and build a monorail for tourists to get to it :>
Tru Belle wrote: I think Peter sounds very sensible, similar mindset really, are we all not control freaks. Stop your council frittering moneyTrouble is that elm,jlc,snoff,and some others are not really with it,they get their "pleasure" from winding people up,sad really,i mean who could really take people like them to be serious,they are pathetic,and most of the time do not mention the issue being discussed.They would never meet someone face to face,or write into the echo with their full name,its the cowards way online.
Colin Henshaw, Tabuk says...
10:47am Sun 18 Nov 07
It is intended to illuminate this folly at night, so it is almost certainly going to be a source of unwanted light pollution, and as such will be detrimental to the quality of the night sky. It is now known that light pollution is detrimental to the environment, so anything that creates it unnecessarilly should not be tolerated.
the owl, kilbride says...
3:35pm Sun 18 Nov 07
PETE WOODLEY, says...
4:19pm Sun 18 Nov 07
PETE WOODLEY, says...
4:35pm Sun 18 Nov 07
PETE WOODLEY, says...
4:36pm Sun 18 Nov 07
the owl, Kilbride says...
7:53pm Sun 18 Nov 07
PETE WOODLEY, says...
7:58pm Sun 18 Nov 07
norbitonpaul, Bmouth & London says...
8:41am Tue 20 Nov 07
Leaving aside the politics of the proposal, and that it's someone else's cast off, it has that wonderful 'wow' ingredient. I'm afraid that most of the detractors of this project are stuck in a John Constable time warp, with their Haywain view of what artistic endeavour should be.
As a regular visitor to Newcastle by road and rail, the view of Angel of the North astride the A1 as you reach Gateshead is an inspiring, lump-in-the-throat structure. I may not particularly like its aesthetic, and it's not all soft and curvy like the hill its sited on. It is incongruent, but surely that's the point. But hey, its soul is in its engineering, a magnificent gesture to the heritage of of the area in which it sits.
Spinnaker in Portsmouth was another grand design which attracted all the 'it's a smear to the spirit of Nelson' miserablists. It's not everyone's cup of tea, but no one can doubt it is now a majestic addition to the landscape around the Solent.
Solar Pyramid is absolutely what Poole needs. Hopefully it would help mummify all these antiquated views of art on this thread!
tont, poole says...
2:49pm Tue 20 Nov 07
Trouble is though, Mr Pete Woodley usually replys to comments like yours above, but its his day off today, so i'll answere why dont you '**** OFF '
norbitonpaul, says...
1:51pm Wed 21 Nov 07
Thank you for your thoughtful and erudite contribution to the debate!
tont, upton poole says...
3:46pm Wed 21 Nov 07
norbitonpaul wrote:What tont says is indubitable.
Dear tont Thank you for your thoughtful and erudite contribution to the debate!
In the past, it is now, and will be in the future, Pray tell me norbitonpaul (bludy ell), sorry to procrastinate but yesterday I was protempore only, so be off with you, you superfluous fallacious Bounder innit. doh.
Downton, Poole says...
4:11pm Tue 4 Dec 07
We live close to Whitecliffe and are horrified at the thought that the beautiful view of the harbour might be desecrated by a huge, artificial, incongruous eye-saw, not to mention the extra strain on the roads and local infrastructure that is already being pushed to the limit by the relentless, and seemingly unstoppable, over-development .. but thats another story dont get me going!
Just a minute, weve worked it out .. Poole Council is obviously jealous of Bournemouths creation and wants something to equal their view blocking Imax!
Roger and Sandra Downton
ColinLambert, Parkstone says...
5:33pm Sun 9 Dec 07
Slightly right of Attilla The, poole says...
5:53pm Mon 31 Dec 07
"some arrogant, self opinionated narrow minded individuals----Obvio
usly, those blinkered, office bound morons"
The people about whom you speak are The erudite leader of Poole Council and an ex Mayor now head of Tourism.
They are so blind and stupid that even after the furious meeting at the Light house when the whole absurd idea was booed and shouted down with calls for their resignation on the spot, they STILL are hell bent on persuing their (overblown) ego trip at the cost of sanity, the tax payers money and the good name of Poole.
They sooner they both resign their positions, the better place Poole will be in which to live.
Come on Leverett and Grant-Braham, do the decent thing and save yourselves any more humiliation and fall on your swords!
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johnathan livingston seagull, wallisdown says...
7:51am Tue 13 Nov 07
..,excitement coursing through my body. huh