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Road to close for the Arrows
7:30am Thursday 16th August 2007
Comments (43)BOURNEMOUTH'S East Overcliff Drive will be closed and a maritime exclusion zone enforced at sea tomorrow when the Red Arrows jet into town.
Tens of thousands are expected to gather along the clifftops to watch the world famous Red Arrows perform their jaw-dropping repertoire of aerobatic manoeuvres, thanks to Bournemouth-based VTSS.
The road closures in the East Cliff area, which will take place between 11am and 12.30pm, are being tried to see if they can help prevent congestion caused by motorists stopping in the road to watch the show. Only residents and the emergency services will be allowed access during the closures.
There will also be a mile-long maritime exclusion zone in operation just off Bournemouth Pier to meet basic safety requirements between 11am and 11.25am and 11.50am and 12.30pm.
Chairman of the Bournemouth Red Arrows Association, Terry Trevett, said: "I do ask everyone on and in the water to respect the zone, which forms an essential part of the safety requirements for the aerial display.
"Please co-operate with and respect the marshals if you are asked to move from your position. They really are there to help us ensure everyone has a safe time while enjoying the displays."
The corners of the exclusion zone, which extend 0.5 nautical miles east and west of Bournemouth Pier and 430 metres out from the pierhead, will be marked out with sailing markers.
Marshall boats, which will be identified by orange flags, and various coastguard and police patrol vessels will be on hand to help and advise.
A band of collectors, identified by yellow bibs and name badges, will be on the scene collecting donations for this year's chosen charity the Soldiers, Sailors, Airmen and Families Association.
As the Reds do not have a display in the afternoon, fans will have a rare opportunity to speak to the team at Pier Approach from between 2.15pm and 3.45pm.
Friday's entertainment begins at 11.15am with a seven-minute display by a single Tucano aeroplane.
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beachcomber, Toft zigzag says...
9:32am Thu 16 Aug 07
jtdorset81, Bournemouth says...
9:42am Thu 16 Aug 07
observer, bmth says...
9:46am Thu 16 Aug 07
Jayteer, Bournemouth says...
10:01am Thu 16 Aug 07
beachcomber wrote:LOLOLOLOLOLOL.
Hate to be a killjoy, but what is the carbon footprint of this display? And would it not be better not to have the display and donate the savings on fuel to the charity? I find it hard to believe that enough will be collected to cover that.
The Red Arrows are world famous, and unique to this country alone. They are one of the few remaining things that Britain is great for, and youre worried about the carbon footprint that nine aircraft will produce during a 20 MINUTE display??
Hardly worth talking about.:)
LOLOLOLOLOL.
fedupwithjobsworths, Moordown says...
10:08am Thu 16 Aug 07
JC, Under the Sea says...
11:42am Thu 16 Aug 07
Mark, Bournemouth says...
12:05pm Thu 16 Aug 07
The-bleeding-obvious, Bournemouth says...
12:32pm Thu 16 Aug 07
nickboy, West London says...
12:45pm Thu 16 Aug 07
beachcomber wrote:Can't we just enjoy something without some pc dullard whingeing on about carbon footprints ? The Red Arrows are special and thousands enjoy their displays every year.This country is becoming more miserable and enjoyment free by the day - put a sock in it beachcomber and enjoy the show !
Hate to be a killjoy, but what is the carbon footprint of this display? And would it not be better not to have the display and donate the savings on fuel to the charity? I find it hard to believe that enough will be collected to cover that.
alumchineboy, Alumchine says...
1:24pm Thu 16 Aug 07
beachcomber, Toft zigzag says...
1:25pm Thu 16 Aug 07
And no one has responded to my question whether the money spent on the aviation fuel would best be donated directly to the charity.
alumchineboy, Alumchine says...
1:46pm Thu 16 Aug 07
fedupwithjobsworths, Moordown says...
2:35pm Thu 16 Aug 07
Tim M, usa says...
3:44pm Thu 16 Aug 07
beachcomber wrote:Romans? What Romans? As far as cancelling the display, the same could easily be said for the private jet/terawatt electrical use/mega hotel bill/huge food costs at Al Gore's self-indulgent festivals last month. They paid carbon credits? Big deal. Carbon credits are nothing more than a celebrity's way to appear green while keeping the Lear Jet.
I'm sure many thousands of Romans enjoyed watching the slaughters in the Coliseum. What a specious argument! And no one has responded to my question whether the money spent on the aviation fuel would best be donated directly to the charity.
ali, Poole says...
3:54pm Thu 16 Aug 07
adrian fudge, boscombe east says...
3:58pm Thu 16 Aug 07
beachcomber wrote:Perhaps you might be interested to know that the Red Arrows cost the tax payers £5.5M per year for which they performed 59 times in the UK and 16 times abroad in 2006
I'm sure many thousands of Romans enjoyed watching the slaughters in the Coliseum. What a specious argument! And no one has responded to my question whether the money spent on the aviation fuel would best be donated directly to the charity.
This means that every performance is subsidised to the tune of £73,000
denis, bournemouth says...
4:07pm Thu 16 Aug 07
adrian fudge wrote:I wonder how much the last Lib Dem council costs the taxpayers of Bournemouth !!!
beachcomber wrote: I'm sure many thousands of Romans enjoyed watching the slaughters in the Coliseum. What a specious argument! And no one has responded to my question whether the money spent on the aviation fuel would best be donated directly to the charity.Perhaps you might be interested to know that the Red Arrows cost the tax payers £5.5M per year for which they performed 59 times in the UK and 16 times abroad in 2006 This means that every performance is subsidised to the tune of £73,000
Bet Cllr Fudge & Co weren't so keen to quote figures then !!!
The-bleeding-obvious, Bournemouth says...
4:10pm Thu 16 Aug 07
adrian fudge wrote:But in the jobsworth economy they'd cost that even if they didn't have any aircraft!
beachcomber wrote: I'm sure many thousands of Romans enjoyed watching the slaughters in the Coliseum. What a specious argument! And no one has responded to my question whether the money spent on the aviation fuel would best be donated directly to the charity.Perhaps you might be interested to know that the Red Arrows cost the tax payers £5.5M per year for which they performed 59 times in the UK and 16 times abroad in 2006 This means that every performance is subsidised to the tune of £73,000
Jerry, poole, dorset says...
4:32pm Thu 16 Aug 07
beachcomber wrote:The money raised for charity comes from beach collections and sponsorship. Deduct the cost of the diaplay and still many thousands are made for charity.
I'm sure many thousands of Romans enjoyed watching the slaughters in the Coliseum. What a specious argument! And no one has responded to my question whether the money spent on the aviation fuel would best be donated directly to the charity.
No Red Arrows = No spectators = No sponsorship = NO money to charity!
Jerry, poole, dorset says...
4:34pm Thu 16 Aug 07
Michael Mousse, Bournemouth says...
4:43pm Thu 16 Aug 07
adrian fudge wrote:Well you don't have much of a choice about it so why not just go and watch them and get your money's worth? DOOFUS.
beachcomber wrote:Perhaps you might be interested to know that the Red Arrows cost the tax payers £5.5M per year for which they performed 59 times in the UK and 16 times abroad in 2006
I'm sure many thousands of Romans enjoyed watching the slaughters in the Coliseum. What a specious argument! And no one has responded to my question whether the money spent on the aviation fuel would best be donated directly to the charity.
This means that every performance is subsidised to the tune of £73,000
Also with regards to the carbon footprint, assuming every one of the estimated 10'000 sits on their backsides and watches tv that same evening I'm pretty sure the amount of electricity used will roughly produce around the same sort of footprint . But I bet you wouldn't give up tv for a year to stop your carbon emissions?!?!
mndman, bournemouth says...
5:22pm Thu 16 Aug 07
jtdorset81 wrote:Climate change may be a reoccurring sequence but does anyone really welcome a new ice age or winters so cold that the Thames froze hard enough to support markets. These are recorded in our history but the predictions are beyond normal and it is no good burying your head in the sand; what is predicted is going to change live for everyone.
Thousands of People will be there Killroy! Unbelieveable!! A show like that is put on and people like are are all "oooohh what about the carbon footprint" get a life!! Climate Change is normal - it's happened time and time again over millions of years! To everyone else - enjoy the Red Arrows!!
fergie, Wallisdown says...
6:20pm Thu 16 Aug 07
nickboy, West London says...
6:41pm Thu 16 Aug 07
Tim M wrote:Well said Tim, hit the nail on the head.
beachcomber wrote: I'm sure many thousands of Romans enjoyed watching the slaughters in the Coliseum. What a specious argument! And no one has responded to my question whether the money spent on the aviation fuel would best be donated directly to the charity.Romans? What Romans? As far as cancelling the display, the same could easily be said for the private jet/terawatt electrical use/mega hotel bill/huge food costs at Al Gore's self-indulgent festivals last month. They paid carbon credits? Big deal. Carbon credits are nothing more than a celebrity's way to appear green while keeping the Lear Jet.
Don't fall for the big global warming con, just like the millenium bug was supposed to trigger an apocalyptic meltdown of the world as we know it.
Glenn, says...
8:20pm Thu 16 Aug 07
fedupwithjobsworths wrote:Have you not heard?
Why close te East Overcliff Drive? I assume the Undercliff Drive will remain open so the Council can still rip holiday makers of for parking. Next year I expect the Health & Safety nutters will ban spectators.
Health and safety have discovered after billions of pounds in taxpayers money and over a decade of research that the main cause of death among all life is birth...so in the interests of public Health and Safety all births will from next January be banned unless foetus's attend a 6 week training course in avoiding death.
And if you believe that then you will also believe that there is some intelligence in even one H&S employee!
highwaywarrior, says...
9:09pm Thu 16 Aug 07
fergie wrote:I dont hate this country - just the idiots that open their mouths before engaging their brains. The Red Arrows may be seen as a "luxury" but they are admired the world over and I think Bournemouth benefits from their annual show here.
Put your hand up if youre starting to hate the country you love.
As for closing East Overcliffe Drive - with all the pedestrians standing in the road and the car drivers not paying attention to the road because their heads are in the clouds it will only be a matter of time before someone is knocked down and seriously hurt / killed. Then the council will be sued for thousands and who will ultimately have to pay for that? Never mind the trauma that the people involved will go through.
Lighten up and live a little - the road will only be closed a short time and there are other ways to get around the town in any case.
Long may the red arrows team continue visiting us.
jtdorset81, Bournemouth says...
11:58pm Thu 16 Aug 07
Thousands of People will be there Killroy! Unbelieveable!! A show like that is put on and people like are are all "oooohh what about the carbon footprint" get a life!! Climate Change is normal - it's happened time and time again over millions of years! To everyone else - enjoy the Red Arrows!!
Climate change may be a reoccurring sequence but does anyone really welcome a new ice age or winters so cold that the Thames froze hard enough to support markets. These are recorded in our history but the predictions are beyond normal and it is no good burying your head in the sand; what is predicted is going to change live for everyone.
Not in my lifetime mate! Who gives a poo!
Hotdog, Poole says...
7:32am Fri 17 Aug 07
I love the Red Arrows - MORE MORE MORE Please!
adrian fudge, boscombe east says...
8:17am Fri 17 Aug 07
denis wrote:The Lib Dem record is there for all to see and if you look you will note that over the last 4 years we cut more than £10m in admin costs and reduced the increase in Council tax year on year resulting in an increase in this current year of 3.2%
adrian fudge wrote:I wonder how much the last Lib Dem council costs the taxpayers of Bournemouth !!! Bet Cllr Fudge & Co weren't so keen to quote figures then !!!beachcomber wrote: I'm sure many thousands of Romans enjoyed watching the slaughters in the Coliseum. What a specious argument! And no one has responded to my question whether the money spent on the aviation fuel would best be donated directly to the charity.Perhaps you might be interested to know that the Red Arrows cost the tax payers £5.5M per year for which they performed 59 times in the UK and 16 times abroad in 2006 This means that every performance is subsidised to the tune of £73,000
At the same time we had an extensive Capital Program which was virtually fully funded
In the first three months of your Tory administration they have created jobs for the boys costing £146K
scrapped the Arts scheme on the Winter Gardens site , virtually thrown the Pavilion scheme out complete with £13M private investment in refurbishment and have sold 3 car parks at two at less than best value
If you monitered local affairs you would know that you could never accuse me of not disclosing figures so can only assume your comment is politically motivated
fedupwithjobsworths, Moordown says...
10:08am Fri 17 Aug 07
Whatever, Bournemouth says...
10:39am Fri 17 Aug 07
Mark, Bournemouth says...
11:02am Fri 17 Aug 07
Whatever wrote:Are you suggesting that we should not believe what politicians say are you? Even worse you say climate change is not entirely our fault. Surely you realise that the English channel was created thousands of years ago by rising sea levels due to global warming - it was all those cars, planes, power stations that did it you know!
Why have the polititions got to poke their nose in here! You will use any opportunity at all! What the hell has all the vomit adrian fudge has to talk about got to do with the red arrows?!! Get a life, you're sad. Its people like you that are ruining this country. Go down and see the red arrows they are spectacular and a pleasure to see, and don't worry about climate change its all a big con by the same people that are ruining this country. There is nothing we can do to stop or even make a dent in slowing down climate change. Get a life let people enjoy themselves!
PokesdownMark, Pokesdown says...
12:55pm Fri 17 Aug 07
The road closure made no difference. Still bumper to bumber on nearby roads and cars pushing through crowds. Was worth a try but not worth the cost.
Hotdog, Poole says...
1:33pm Fri 17 Aug 07
The-bleeding-obvious, Bournemouth says...
2:08pm Fri 17 Aug 07
Total incompetance and not necessary!
PokesdownMark, Pokesdown says...
2:34pm Fri 17 Aug 07
:-)
snoff, Poole says...
3:40pm Fri 17 Aug 07
fedupwithjobsworths wrote:where will it all end eh????
Why close te East Overcliff Drive? I assume the Undercliff Drive will remain open so the Council can still rip holiday makers of for parking. Next year I expect the Health & Safety nutters will ban spectators.
the_triffid, poole says...
4:27pm Fri 17 Aug 07
Jayteer, Bournemouth says...
4:37pm Fri 17 Aug 07
adrian fudge wrote:Small price to pay in retaining something that has made this country admired the world over, and has made British people proud to be British.
beachcomber wrote:Perhaps you might be interested to know that the Red Arrows cost the tax payers £5.5M per year for which they performed 59 times in the UK and 16 times abroad in 2006
I'm sure many thousands of Romans enjoyed watching the slaughters in the Coliseum. What a specious argument! And no one has responded to my question whether the money spent on the aviation fuel would best be donated directly to the charity.
This means that every performance is subsidised to the tune of £73,000
The Red Arrows are globally unique- 73k is a smal price to pay to keep something as unique as this British.
And tell me since your quoting figures- Just how much do you think he hundreds of thousands of fake asylum seekrs are costing this country?
A hell of a lot more money than 5.5m- But nobody says anything about how much they cost our system because its not right.
Leave the red arrows alone- They are the cream of the crop in the RAF and the world.
Lose them, and its another nail into the coffin of the word 'Britain'
Nick, Bournemouth says...
12:54am Sun 19 Aug 07
beachcomber wrote:The carbon footprint from our boys overseas is about 250 dead. Let them strut their stuff.
Hate to be a killjoy, but what is the carbon footprint of this display? And would it not be better not to have the display and donate the savings on fuel to the charity? I find it hard to believe that enough will be collected to cover that.
Wiki, Bournemouth says...
8:37am Sun 19 Aug 07
The jobsworth is actually the Civil Aviation Authority. Document CAP403 gives all the details. Read it sometime when you have about 3 hours to spare - it's available on their website.
sdavies, Ferndown says...
6:55pm Sun 19 Aug 07
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The-bleeding-obvious, Bournemouth says...
9:08am Thu 16 Aug 07