Jarna Indian restaurant investigated by Home Office over illegal workers

The Jarna Tandoori restaurant on Christchurch Road, New Milton

The Jarna Tandoori restaurant on Christchurch Road, New Milton

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A RESTAURANT could face a fine of up to £120,000 for employing illegal workers.

A Home Office raid at the Jarna Indian restaurant on Christchurch Road, New Milton saw three Bangladeshi men arrested as staff were questioned over whether they had the right to live and work in the UK.

Two of the men, aged 26 and 28, had overstayed their visas while a 29-year-old man was found to be a failed asylum seeker.

Another three men, aged 29, 45 and 60 were found to have no permission to work and escorted from the premises.

The men aged 26 and 29 who were arrested have been transferred to immigration detention pending removal from the UK.

The 28-year-old has been placed on immigration bail while his case is progressed and also faces removal if found to have no right to remain in the UK.

The business was served with a notice warning that a financial penalty of up to £20,000 per illegal worker found will be imposed unless the employer can demonstrate that appropriate pre-employment checks were carried out, such as seeing a passport or Home Office document.

Assistant Director Carla Johnson, head of the South Central Home Office Immigration Enforcement team, said: “We will not tolerate illegal working, and our officers carry out regular operations across Hampshire to tackle abuse of the system.

“Some businesses may feel that hiring illegal workers is harmless, but they are wrong.

“It defrauds the taxpayer, undercuts honest employers and often exploits some of society’s most vulnerable people. It also means legitimate job hunters are starved of opportunities.

“The message is clear. Although we are happy to assist businesses and advise them on what checks need to be carried out on staff, employers who flout the rules will be punished and could face a heavy penalty.”

No-one was available for comment at the Jarna restaurant.

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5:52am Tue 26 Aug 14

BIGTONE says...

It is a fine up to £20,000 per illegal worker.
It rarely is.

The owners of the restaurant are clearly not bothered when they are willing to take the chance in the first place.
There will be many others waiting in the wings.
It is a fine up to £20,000 per illegal worker. It rarely is. The owners of the restaurant are clearly not bothered when they are willing to take the chance in the first place. There will be many others waiting in the wings. BIGTONE
  • Score: 35

6:06am Tue 26 Aug 14

Huey says...

BIGTONE wrote:
It is a fine up to £20,000 per illegal worker.
It rarely is.

The owners of the restaurant are clearly not bothered when they are willing to take the chance in the first place.
There will be many others waiting in the wings.
Well said
[quote][p][bold]BIGTONE[/bold] wrote: It is a fine up to £20,000 per illegal worker. It rarely is. The owners of the restaurant are clearly not bothered when they are willing to take the chance in the first place. There will be many others waiting in the wings.[/p][/quote]Well said Huey
  • Score: 25

6:52am Tue 26 Aug 14

bosco1 says...

No doubt the owners will just lock up the shop and run to never be seen again!!! and of course the fine if imposed will not get paid.!! unless of course the owners have had there passports confiscated if they were able to find them.!
No doubt the owners will just lock up the shop and run to never be seen again!!! and of course the fine if imposed will not get paid.!! unless of course the owners have had there passports confiscated if they were able to find them.! bosco1
  • Score: 29

7:52am Tue 26 Aug 14

breamoreboy says...

bosco1 wrote:
No doubt the owners will just lock up the shop and run to never be seen again!!! and of course the fine if imposed will not get paid.!! unless of course the owners have had there passports confiscated if they were able to find them.!
And of course it's "their passports"!!!
[quote][p][bold]bosco1[/bold] wrote: No doubt the owners will just lock up the shop and run to never be seen again!!! and of course the fine if imposed will not get paid.!! unless of course the owners have had there passports confiscated if they were able to find them.![/p][/quote]And of course it's "their passports"!!! breamoreboy
  • Score: 1

8:39am Tue 26 Aug 14

paulinejanet says...

could be fined up to £20,000 per illegal but wont be
could be fined up to £20,000 per illegal but wont be paulinejanet
  • Score: 20

10:38am Tue 26 Aug 14

Afterhours says...

We can all be confident that "our boys in blue/grey/black whatever these days" will have thought everything out.....re holding onto passports...ect so that they are not out witted once again ! Not a betting person but I know which side I would put money on
We can all be confident that "our boys in blue/grey/black whatever these days" will have thought everything out.....re holding onto passports...ect so that they are not out witted once again ! Not a betting person but I know which side I would put money on Afterhours
  • Score: 14

10:39am Tue 26 Aug 14

burgerboy says...

And the one placed on immigration bail was released never to be seen again....
And the one placed on immigration bail was released never to be seen again.... burgerboy
  • Score: 32

12:28pm Tue 26 Aug 14

BmthNewshound says...

Raids like this are commonplace. Its obvious that the amount of money these businesses save by employing and often exploiting illegal migrant workers far exceeds the fines they risk or they wouldn't do it.
Raids like this are commonplace. Its obvious that the amount of money these businesses save by employing and often exploiting illegal migrant workers far exceeds the fines they risk or they wouldn't do it. BmthNewshound
  • Score: 20

12:40pm Tue 26 Aug 14

speedy231278 says...

Is this a repeat of an old story, or is this another local curryhouse that's allegedly going to be fined massively, but probably won't? I'm sure there was one a year or so ago for a similar amount.
Is this a repeat of an old story, or is this another local curryhouse that's allegedly going to be fined massively, but probably won't? I'm sure there was one a year or so ago for a similar amount. speedy231278
  • Score: 13

1:37pm Tue 26 Aug 14

penhalereturns says...

The 28-year-old has been placed on immigration bail while his case is progressed and also faces removal if found to have no right to remain in the UK.
.
Immigration bail, what's that, they will just run never to be seen again, that's why we have so many over stayers in this country.
Any law that arrests an illegal immigrant and then lets them out on bail is a complete nonsense, it's bloody obvious to everyone that they will disappear, well not everyone, the senile old judges obviously trust these scroungers to surrender to their bail, idiots.
The 28-year-old has been placed on immigration bail while his case is progressed and also faces removal if found to have no right to remain in the UK. . Immigration bail, what's that, they will just run never to be seen again, that's why we have so many over stayers in this country. Any law that arrests an illegal immigrant and then lets them out on bail is a complete nonsense, it's bloody obvious to everyone that they will disappear, well not everyone, the senile old judges obviously trust these scroungers to surrender to their bail, idiots. penhalereturns
  • Score: 26

2:11pm Tue 26 Aug 14

Bob49 says...

how come we never see a follow up to these stories ie whether the owners were fined and how much
how come we never see a follow up to these stories ie whether the owners were fined and how much Bob49
  • Score: 22

2:32pm Tue 26 Aug 14

Comprende says...

Why do workers in these ressteraunts bring their own sandwiches for lunch?
I think we know the answer to that one.
If your premises are illegally dirty, not paying tax or dodgy in other ways then best hire people who are beyond the law, will they report anything?
Doubtful.
Why people eat the muck made with **** stained hands, all their customers can't be drunk, surely.
Why do workers in these ressteraunts bring their own sandwiches for lunch? I think we know the answer to that one. If your premises are illegally dirty, not paying tax or dodgy in other ways then best hire people who are beyond the law, will they report anything? Doubtful. Why people eat the muck made with **** stained hands, all their customers can't be drunk, surely. Comprende
  • Score: 5

2:48pm Tue 26 Aug 14

askquestion says...

the relevant word here is COULD. does this ever happen ? cheaper by far to shut the place down. i wonder how often local authorities check all the foriegn shops in Charminster ? and Poole.

i suppose if people still choose to gamble with the security of this country, these places will still be used.
the relevant word here is COULD. does this ever happen ? cheaper by far to shut the place down. i wonder how often local authorities check all the foriegn shops in Charminster ? and Poole. i suppose if people still choose to gamble with the security of this country, these places will still be used. askquestion
  • Score: 9

3:05pm Tue 26 Aug 14

A N Archist says...

Here's an idea. The working class might just be able to deal with this themselves. Get organized regardless of whether you're an indigenous worker or an immigrant worker and take direct action ourselves and put these gang masters out of business once and for all.

Oh dear that may mean having to join a union. We have to understand this is not an immigration issue its a capitalist issue and capitalism is a worldwide cancer that can only be fought internationally and by it's victims and that is the international working class.
Here's an idea. The working class might just be able to deal with this themselves. Get organized regardless of whether you're an indigenous worker or an immigrant worker and take direct action ourselves and put these gang masters out of business once and for all. Oh dear that may mean having to join a union. We have to understand this is not an immigration issue its a capitalist issue and capitalism is a worldwide cancer that can only be fought internationally and by it's victims and that is the international working class. A N Archist
  • Score: -11

3:18pm Tue 26 Aug 14

speedy231278 says...

Bob49 wrote:
how come we never see a follow up to these stories ie whether the owners were fined and how much
Because that doesn't sound as interesting as a headline!
[quote][p][bold]Bob49[/bold] wrote: how come we never see a follow up to these stories ie whether the owners were fined and how much[/p][/quote]Because that doesn't sound as interesting as a headline! speedy231278
  • Score: 8

3:56pm Tue 26 Aug 14

West Howe Sean says...

I think this problem has arisen as work permits are no longer issued to people from non EU countries for low paid jobs.

So Indian restaurants have a limited supply of chefs and waiters who are willing to work hard and long hours. Traditionally many people came from Asia and worked in the hospitality industry this has now stopped. Be honest would you want to go to an curry house and be served by the of staff you get in McDonald's. The problem can be solved by making work permits available once again for certain industries.

Once again most Daily Echo readers are showing their anti business credentials.
I think this problem has arisen as work permits are no longer issued to people from non EU countries for low paid jobs. So Indian restaurants have a limited supply of chefs and waiters who are willing to work hard and long hours. Traditionally many people came from Asia and worked in the hospitality industry this has now stopped. Be honest would you want to go to an curry house and be served by the of staff you get in McDonald's. The problem can be solved by making work permits available once again for certain industries. Once again most Daily Echo readers are showing their anti business credentials. West Howe Sean
  • Score: 2

4:42pm Tue 26 Aug 14

bbird says...

Jarna, according to the Food Standards Agency website, has 1 out of 5 for hygiene. It beats me why anyone would eat there anyway
Jarna, according to the Food Standards Agency website, has 1 out of 5 for hygiene. It beats me why anyone would eat there anyway bbird
  • Score: 10

4:54pm Tue 26 Aug 14

askquestion says...

The rubbish that people eat amazes me.! little wonder that so many people are ill and on medication. whats wrong with a decent home cooked meal ?
The rubbish that people eat amazes me.! little wonder that so many people are ill and on medication. whats wrong with a decent home cooked meal ? askquestion
  • Score: 6

5:05pm Tue 26 Aug 14

bbird says...

askquestion wrote:
The rubbish that people eat amazes me.! little wonder that so many people are ill and on medication. whats wrong with a decent home cooked meal ?
Can't beat home cooking. But sometimes nice to relax and eat out, abd have something different. But just so difficult to find anywhere half decent. It's usually rubbish for mass production, or pretentiously presented with foam and flowers, but not especially good food.

We need more restaurants with quality ingredients and where you can see the food being prepared!
[quote][p][bold]askquestion[/bold] wrote: The rubbish that people eat amazes me.! little wonder that so many people are ill and on medication. whats wrong with a decent home cooked meal ?[/p][/quote]Can't beat home cooking. But sometimes nice to relax and eat out, abd have something different. But just so difficult to find anywhere half decent. It's usually rubbish for mass production, or pretentiously presented with foam and flowers, but not especially good food. We need more restaurants with quality ingredients and where you can see the food being prepared! bbird
  • Score: 4

5:18pm Tue 26 Aug 14

fireflier says...

We all know the solution to this type of problem! Carry out the same procedure as would be handed down in many of the countries these illegals and their employers come from.

Confiscate the passports of the employers! Insist on a massive fine being paid! Repatriate the illegal workers TODAY! If the employers own the property ...confiscate the ownership.
We all know the solution to this type of problem! Carry out the same procedure as would be handed down in many of the countries these illegals and their employers come from. Confiscate the passports of the employers! Insist on a massive fine being paid! Repatriate the illegal workers TODAY! If the employers own the property ...confiscate the ownership. fireflier
  • Score: 10

5:42pm Tue 26 Aug 14

Huey says...

bbird wrote:
askquestion wrote:
The rubbish that people eat amazes me.! little wonder that so many people are ill and on medication. whats wrong with a decent home cooked meal ?
Can't beat home cooking. But sometimes nice to relax and eat out, abd have something different. But just so difficult to find anywhere half decent. It's usually rubbish for mass production, or pretentiously presented with foam and flowers, but not especially good food.

We need more restaurants with quality ingredients and where you can see the food being prepared!
West beach
[quote][p][bold]bbird[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]askquestion[/bold] wrote: The rubbish that people eat amazes me.! little wonder that so many people are ill and on medication. whats wrong with a decent home cooked meal ?[/p][/quote]Can't beat home cooking. But sometimes nice to relax and eat out, abd have something different. But just so difficult to find anywhere half decent. It's usually rubbish for mass production, or pretentiously presented with foam and flowers, but not especially good food. We need more restaurants with quality ingredients and where you can see the food being prepared![/p][/quote]West beach Huey
  • Score: -3

5:48pm Tue 26 Aug 14

John T says...

Huey wrote:
bbird wrote:
askquestion wrote:
The rubbish that people eat amazes me.! little wonder that so many people are ill and on medication. whats wrong with a decent home cooked meal ?
Can't beat home cooking. But sometimes nice to relax and eat out, abd have something different. But just so difficult to find anywhere half decent. It's usually rubbish for mass production, or pretentiously presented with foam and flowers, but not especially good food.

We need more restaurants with quality ingredients and where you can see the food being prepared!
West beach
Pretentious snobs
[quote][p][bold]Huey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bbird[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]askquestion[/bold] wrote: The rubbish that people eat amazes me.! little wonder that so many people are ill and on medication. whats wrong with a decent home cooked meal ?[/p][/quote]Can't beat home cooking. But sometimes nice to relax and eat out, abd have something different. But just so difficult to find anywhere half decent. It's usually rubbish for mass production, or pretentiously presented with foam and flowers, but not especially good food. We need more restaurants with quality ingredients and where you can see the food being prepared![/p][/quote]West beach[/p][/quote]Pretentious snobs John T
  • Score: 11

5:53pm Tue 26 Aug 14

breamoreboy says...

Afterhours wrote:
We can all be confident that "our boys in blue/grey/black whatever these days" will have thought everything out.....re holding onto passports...ect so that they are not out witted once again ! Not a betting person but I know which side I would put money on
The boys and girls in uniform know exactly what to do, sadly the politicians don't. Several times on the programme about the UK Border Agency they were grabbing people that were suspected of working illegally, but they couldn't be held as they had no ID. They'd promptly scarper to their digs, grab their bags complete with ID and run off someplace else. The Home Secretary's proposed solution was to bring the UKBA back within the Home Office as they weren't performing. With stupid rules like that how on earth could they? I've no idea if anything has changed since I saw those programmes, but if I know anything about our politicians they've probably made things worse rather than better.
[quote][p][bold]Afterhours[/bold] wrote: We can all be confident that "our boys in blue/grey/black whatever these days" will have thought everything out.....re holding onto passports...ect so that they are not out witted once again ! Not a betting person but I know which side I would put money on[/p][/quote]The boys and girls in uniform know exactly what to do, sadly the politicians don't. Several times on the programme about the UK Border Agency they were grabbing people that were suspected of working illegally, but they couldn't be held as they had no ID. They'd promptly scarper to their digs, grab their bags complete with ID and run off someplace else. The Home Secretary's proposed solution was to bring the UKBA back within the Home Office as they weren't performing. With stupid rules like that how on earth could they? I've no idea if anything has changed since I saw those programmes, but if I know anything about our politicians they've probably made things worse rather than better. breamoreboy
  • Score: 11

6:35pm Tue 26 Aug 14

twynhamob says...

West Howe Sean wrote:
I think this problem has arisen as work permits are no longer issued to people from non EU countries for low paid jobs.

So Indian restaurants have a limited supply of chefs and waiters who are willing to work hard and long hours. Traditionally many people came from Asia and worked in the hospitality industry this has now stopped. Be honest would you want to go to an curry house and be served by the of staff you get in McDonald's. The problem can be solved by making work permits available once again for certain industries.

Once again most Daily Echo readers are showing their anti business credentials.
I think this is the first time I have ever agreed with Sean. Racism is a part of our life (regardless of whether we admit it or not), an Indian restaurant is hardly ever going to employ a non-Indian, and a non-Indian is hardly likely to apply. So either the Indian goes out of business or employs non-legals. Go back to issuing work-visa just like the 60's with West-Indian bus drivers.
[quote][p][bold]West Howe Sean[/bold] wrote: I think this problem has arisen as work permits are no longer issued to people from non EU countries for low paid jobs. So Indian restaurants have a limited supply of chefs and waiters who are willing to work hard and long hours. Traditionally many people came from Asia and worked in the hospitality industry this has now stopped. Be honest would you want to go to an curry house and be served by the of staff you get in McDonald's. The problem can be solved by making work permits available once again for certain industries. Once again most Daily Echo readers are showing their anti business credentials.[/p][/quote]I think this is the first time I have ever agreed with Sean. Racism is a part of our life (regardless of whether we admit it or not), an Indian restaurant is hardly ever going to employ a non-Indian, and a non-Indian is hardly likely to apply. So either the Indian goes out of business or employs non-legals. Go back to issuing work-visa just like the 60's with West-Indian bus drivers. twynhamob
  • Score: -2

7:25pm Tue 26 Aug 14

Minty Fresh says...

As if the owners of a dodgy run down Indian takeaway could afford fines of that magnitude. They couldn't even afford to employ people legitimately on minimum wage ffs!
As if the owners of a dodgy run down Indian takeaway could afford fines of that magnitude. They couldn't even afford to employ people legitimately on minimum wage ffs! Minty Fresh
  • Score: 0

8:20pm Tue 26 Aug 14

justme20092009 says...

close it down and kick the owners out of the country
close it down and kick the owners out of the country justme20092009
  • Score: 7

8:39pm Tue 26 Aug 14

Bob49 says...

Minty Fresh wrote:
As if the owners of a dodgy run down Indian takeaway could afford fines of that magnitude. They couldn't even afford to employ people legitimately on minimum wage ffs!
or perhaps it was more profitable not to ....

and I've a funny feeling I know which one is nearer the truth
[quote][p][bold]Minty Fresh[/bold] wrote: As if the owners of a dodgy run down Indian takeaway could afford fines of that magnitude. They couldn't even afford to employ people legitimately on minimum wage ffs![/p][/quote]or perhaps it was more profitable not to .... and I've a funny feeling I know which one is nearer the truth Bob49
  • Score: 7

8:45pm Tue 26 Aug 14

bbird says...

I just think we do it all wrong!

First of all every restaurant, or anywhere food us prepared, should be managed by someone with recognised food hygiene qualifications (and they should be checked during regular spot visits to ensure they really do have this qualification!). This should also apply to the chefs.

Secondly all other staff should have to attend a basic course, and reach a basic level before they can work in a restaurant.

If it can be proved that a restaurant is unable to recruit suitable staff in this country (and I agree it feels right for an Indian person to work in an Indian restaurant). Then, yes, grant yearly renewable permits to come and work here. But, without a permanent right of abode, and renewable/revocable say yearly.

Of course what I have said will make it more difficult to recruit staff, and perhaps push up prices - but in my view better this, than continue to offer food in restaurants with a poor standard of hygiene. You just have to check out the Food Standards website to see how many establishments are poorly rated. I check every restaurant before I go - less than a 4 out of 5 - and I don't go. And often the worst ones don't display their hygiene rating in the window!

And when key staff change, perhaps the council should visit again to check the premises. I am not convinced that the ratings given are always reliable, but it's better than nothing.
I just think we do it all wrong! First of all every restaurant, or anywhere food us prepared, should be managed by someone with recognised food hygiene qualifications (and they should be checked during regular spot visits to ensure they really do have this qualification!). This should also apply to the chefs. Secondly all other staff should have to attend a basic course, and reach a basic level before they can work in a restaurant. If it can be proved that a restaurant is unable to recruit suitable staff in this country (and I agree it feels right for an Indian person to work in an Indian restaurant). Then, yes, grant yearly renewable permits to come and work here. But, without a permanent right of abode, and renewable/revocable say yearly. Of course what I have said will make it more difficult to recruit staff, and perhaps push up prices - but in my view better this, than continue to offer food in restaurants with a poor standard of hygiene. You just have to check out the Food Standards website to see how many establishments are poorly rated. I check every restaurant before I go - less than a 4 out of 5 - and I don't go. And often the worst ones don't display their hygiene rating in the window! And when key staff change, perhaps the council should visit again to check the premises. I am not convinced that the ratings given are always reliable, but it's better than nothing. bbird
  • Score: 5

9:45pm Tue 26 Aug 14

Mangiafuoco says...

twynhamob wrote:
West Howe Sean wrote:
I think this problem has arisen as work permits are no longer issued to people from non EU countries for low paid jobs.

So Indian restaurants have a limited supply of chefs and waiters who are willing to work hard and long hours. Traditionally many people came from Asia and worked in the hospitality industry this has now stopped. Be honest would you want to go to an curry house and be served by the of staff you get in McDonald's. The problem can be solved by making work permits available once again for certain industries.

Once again most Daily Echo readers are showing their anti business credentials.
I think this is the first time I have ever agreed with Sean. Racism is a part of our life (regardless of whether we admit it or not), an Indian restaurant is hardly ever going to employ a non-Indian, and a non-Indian is hardly likely to apply. So either the Indian goes out of business or employs non-legals. Go back to issuing work-visa just like the 60's with West-Indian bus drivers.
What the hell has this got to do with racism!! The restaurant employed and most probably exploited illegal immigrants.
There are plenty of Asians here. At the last count just under 3 million British Asians living in England alone, which is just under 6% of the population.
By employing illegal immigrants and not paying tax etc they are depriving legal British Asians of viable job opportunities.
The racist card is played so often in this country that it is making it worthless!
[quote][p][bold]twynhamob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]West Howe Sean[/bold] wrote: I think this problem has arisen as work permits are no longer issued to people from non EU countries for low paid jobs. So Indian restaurants have a limited supply of chefs and waiters who are willing to work hard and long hours. Traditionally many people came from Asia and worked in the hospitality industry this has now stopped. Be honest would you want to go to an curry house and be served by the of staff you get in McDonald's. The problem can be solved by making work permits available once again for certain industries. Once again most Daily Echo readers are showing their anti business credentials.[/p][/quote]I think this is the first time I have ever agreed with Sean. Racism is a part of our life (regardless of whether we admit it or not), an Indian restaurant is hardly ever going to employ a non-Indian, and a non-Indian is hardly likely to apply. So either the Indian goes out of business or employs non-legals. Go back to issuing work-visa just like the 60's with West-Indian bus drivers.[/p][/quote]What the hell has this got to do with racism!! The restaurant employed and most probably exploited illegal immigrants. There are plenty of Asians here. At the last count just under 3 million British Asians living in England alone, which is just under 6% of the population. By employing illegal immigrants and not paying tax etc they are depriving legal British Asians of viable job opportunities. The racist card is played so often in this country that it is making it worthless! Mangiafuoco
  • Score: 5

11:06pm Tue 26 Aug 14

Yankee1 says...

UK Immigration really is a joke, isn't it?

The UK is, to put it mildly, a soft target.

And you pay for it.
UK Immigration really is a joke, isn't it? The UK is, to put it mildly, a soft target. And you pay for it. Yankee1
  • Score: 5

11:09pm Tue 26 Aug 14

Yankee1 says...

Mangiafuoco wrote:
twynhamob wrote:
West Howe Sean wrote:
I think this problem has arisen as work permits are no longer issued to people from non EU countries for low paid jobs.

So Indian restaurants have a limited supply of chefs and waiters who are willing to work hard and long hours. Traditionally many people came from Asia and worked in the hospitality industry this has now stopped. Be honest would you want to go to an curry house and be served by the of staff you get in McDonald's. The problem can be solved by making work permits available once again for certain industries.

Once again most Daily Echo readers are showing their anti business credentials.
I think this is the first time I have ever agreed with Sean. Racism is a part of our life (regardless of whether we admit it or not), an Indian restaurant is hardly ever going to employ a non-Indian, and a non-Indian is hardly likely to apply. So either the Indian goes out of business or employs non-legals. Go back to issuing work-visa just like the 60's with West-Indian bus drivers.
What the hell has this got to do with racism!! The restaurant employed and most probably exploited illegal immigrants.
There are plenty of Asians here. At the last count just under 3 million British Asians living in England alone, which is just under 6% of the population.
By employing illegal immigrants and not paying tax etc they are depriving legal British Asians of viable job opportunities.
The racist card is played so often in this country that it is making it worthless!
'Racism' is the meme used by those too soft to understand the law.

They will be howling for justice when the killer of the American journalist (a scion of a 1 million quid council house in London) is identified.

The UK really has to decide which side its bread is buttered. At present, that side seems to be the one than lands face down, on the floor.

Get a Grip, my friends. Get a Grip.
[quote][p][bold]Mangiafuoco[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]twynhamob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]West Howe Sean[/bold] wrote: I think this problem has arisen as work permits are no longer issued to people from non EU countries for low paid jobs. So Indian restaurants have a limited supply of chefs and waiters who are willing to work hard and long hours. Traditionally many people came from Asia and worked in the hospitality industry this has now stopped. Be honest would you want to go to an curry house and be served by the of staff you get in McDonald's. The problem can be solved by making work permits available once again for certain industries. Once again most Daily Echo readers are showing their anti business credentials.[/p][/quote]I think this is the first time I have ever agreed with Sean. Racism is a part of our life (regardless of whether we admit it or not), an Indian restaurant is hardly ever going to employ a non-Indian, and a non-Indian is hardly likely to apply. So either the Indian goes out of business or employs non-legals. Go back to issuing work-visa just like the 60's with West-Indian bus drivers.[/p][/quote]What the hell has this got to do with racism!! The restaurant employed and most probably exploited illegal immigrants. There are plenty of Asians here. At the last count just under 3 million British Asians living in England alone, which is just under 6% of the population. By employing illegal immigrants and not paying tax etc they are depriving legal British Asians of viable job opportunities. The racist card is played so often in this country that it is making it worthless![/p][/quote]'Racism' is the meme used by those too soft to understand the law. They will be howling for justice when the killer of the American journalist (a scion of a 1 million quid council house in London) is identified. The UK really has to decide which side its bread is buttered. At present, that side seems to be the one than lands face down, on the floor. Get a Grip, my friends. Get a Grip. Yankee1
  • Score: 2

1:38am Wed 27 Aug 14

billd766 says...

fireflier wrote:
We all know the solution to this type of problem! Carry out the same procedure as would be handed down in many of the countries these illegals and their employers come from.

Confiscate the passports of the employers! Insist on a massive fine being paid! Repatriate the illegal workers TODAY! If the employers own the property ...confiscate the ownership.
Perhaps the owners were actually born in the UK of 2 or 3 generations and may not even have a passport to confiscate. Then what?
Of course it is possible to issue ID cards to every person in the UK and then it would be easy to check up on people. This is quite normal for many countries in the world and the people there don't complain about the loss of freedom.
[quote][p][bold]fireflier[/bold] wrote: We all know the solution to this type of problem! Carry out the same procedure as would be handed down in many of the countries these illegals and their employers come from. Confiscate the passports of the employers! Insist on a massive fine being paid! Repatriate the illegal workers TODAY! If the employers own the property ...confiscate the ownership.[/p][/quote]Perhaps the owners were actually born in the UK of 2 or 3 generations and may not even have a passport to confiscate. Then what? Of course it is possible to issue ID cards to every person in the UK and then it would be easy to check up on people. This is quite normal for many countries in the world and the people there don't complain about the loss of freedom. billd766
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