Motorist fighting parking fine hits out at ‘confusing’ restrictions

FUMING: Ken Cook at St James’ Square

FUMING: Ken Cook at St James’ Square

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A FURIOUS motorist has branded a restricted parking zone in Boscombe “confusing” after being fined.

Ken Cook parked in St James’s Square on February 25 whilst he was picking up his granddaughter from school and received a parking ticket which he has been fighting ever since.

Mr Cook claims he had no idea he was parked illegally as there was no signage or double yellow lines “I parked at 2.55pm, left the car and walked 100 yards or so to pick her up,” he said.

“When we returned about 10 minutes later there was a parking ticket on the car – and another on the car behind too.”

The road is part of a council Home Zone which includes signage warning drivers they are entering an area with restrictions and grey parking bays where they apply.

However, Mr Cook said those unfamiliar with the zone can be easily caught out.

“I didn’t see the signs,” he added. “There is only one sign as you enter the zone and it is easily hidden if there is a large van parked in front of it.

“You have to be really au fait with the rules and regulations to realise there are any parking restrictions at all. It is very confusing.

Mr Cook paid the £35 fine but has repeatedly written to the council disputing the decision without success.

Elaine Smith, deputy parking services manager at Bournemouth council, said the Home Zone was introduced in September 2012 after “extensive consultation” with residents and is now safer for pedestrians and a place which “everyone can use and enjoy”.

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7:45am Mon 25 Aug 14

nothingtofear says...

Great picture. The very epitome of a furious motorist.
Great picture. The very epitome of a furious motorist. nothingtofear
  • Score: 17

7:55am Mon 25 Aug 14

bosco1 says...

Would have been better off parking on the pavement like the cars belonging to Domminoes Pitza shop in holdenhurst road.!!
Would have been better off parking on the pavement like the cars belonging to Domminoes Pitza shop in holdenhurst road.!! bosco1
  • Score: 22

8:22am Mon 25 Aug 14

Oldalbanian says...

Arms should be folded!
Arms should be folded! Oldalbanian
  • Score: -3

8:24am Mon 25 Aug 14

Townee says...

You've paid it so no chance of getting it over turned. Would have been better not paying then going to court.
You've paid it so no chance of getting it over turned. Would have been better not paying then going to court. Townee
  • Score: 15

8:24am Mon 25 Aug 14

fedupwithjobsworths says...

Elaine Smith, deputy parking services manager at Bournemouth council, said the Home Zone was introduced in September 2012 after “extensive consultation” with residents and is now safer for pedestrians and a place which “everyone can use and enjoy”............ apparently not for everyone to use and enjoy then! Signage needs to be clear and unambiguous, otherwise the council is acting no better than a rogue clamping company.
Elaine Smith, deputy parking services manager at Bournemouth council, said the Home Zone was introduced in September 2012 after “extensive consultation” with residents and is now safer for pedestrians and a place which “everyone can use and enjoy”............ apparently not for everyone to use and enjoy then! Signage needs to be clear and unambiguous, otherwise the council is acting no better than a rogue clamping company. fedupwithjobsworths
  • Score: 37

8:34am Mon 25 Aug 14

Jetwasher says...

I just tape my number plates up when working in them areas just incase that camera car comes round for a look , although once the police was called from a alarmed neighbour due to my actions. Good luck fella but as someone said you paid, you won't get it back now !
I just tape my number plates up when working in them areas just incase that camera car comes round for a look , although once the police was called from a alarmed neighbour due to my actions. Good luck fella but as someone said you paid, you won't get it back now ! Jetwasher
  • Score: 12

8:47am Mon 25 Aug 14

Carolyn43 says...

Well I hadn't heard of "Home Zones". Is this a national thing or is it something that Bournemouth Council has dreamt up and assumed everyone would know about it?
Well I hadn't heard of "Home Zones". Is this a national thing or is it something that Bournemouth Council has dreamt up and assumed everyone would know about it? Carolyn43
  • Score: 31

9:04am Mon 25 Aug 14

rozmister says...

Carolyn43 wrote:
Well I hadn't heard of "Home Zones". Is this a national thing or is it something that Bournemouth Council has dreamt up and assumed everyone would know about it?
Home zones are a national thing, they're meant to meet pedestrian, cycles & cars needs all at once and encourage resident's to slow down and be more aware of their surroundings. Probably a good idea when there's a school on the square!
[quote][p][bold]Carolyn43[/bold] wrote: Well I hadn't heard of "Home Zones". Is this a national thing or is it something that Bournemouth Council has dreamt up and assumed everyone would know about it?[/p][/quote]Home zones are a national thing, they're meant to meet pedestrian, cycles & cars needs all at once and encourage resident's to slow down and be more aware of their surroundings. Probably a good idea when there's a school on the square! rozmister
  • Score: 7

9:14am Mon 25 Aug 14

BIGTONE says...

Should have been snarling his dentures.
Should have been snarling his dentures. BIGTONE
  • Score: -2

9:45am Mon 25 Aug 14

penhalereturns says...

rozmister wrote:
Carolyn43 wrote:
Well I hadn't heard of "Home Zones". Is this a national thing or is it something that Bournemouth Council has dreamt up and assumed everyone would know about it?
Home zones are a national thing, they're meant to meet pedestrian, cycles & cars needs all at once and encourage resident's to slow down and be more aware of their surroundings. Probably a good idea when there's a school on the square!
I cant really see how fining someone for parking for 10 minutes makes it safer for pedestrians and cyclists.
Its obviously not a place for everyone to use and enjoy otherwise there would be no fine for using it, but I suppose the council have to make up the financial loss of their camera car.
[quote][p][bold]rozmister[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Carolyn43[/bold] wrote: Well I hadn't heard of "Home Zones". Is this a national thing or is it something that Bournemouth Council has dreamt up and assumed everyone would know about it?[/p][/quote]Home zones are a national thing, they're meant to meet pedestrian, cycles & cars needs all at once and encourage resident's to slow down and be more aware of their surroundings. Probably a good idea when there's a school on the square![/p][/quote]I cant really see how fining someone for parking for 10 minutes makes it safer for pedestrians and cyclists. Its obviously not a place for everyone to use and enjoy otherwise there would be no fine for using it, but I suppose the council have to make up the financial loss of their camera car. penhalereturns
  • Score: 12

9:48am Mon 25 Aug 14

rayc says...

Give Councils powers to extract money from motorists and they will dream up all sort of schemes to do so.
It is all about politics at the European level. They say "Many of the countries support the idea of giving legal priority to pedestrians and cyclists. In this situation, in the case of a RTA (Road Traffic Accident) within a Home Zone, it is the driver of the car who is held responsible, the burden is automatically on the driver to prove otherwise. This may be considered an infringement in justice laws, but it has produced the desired effect and drivers are being forced to think before they act. Those who do not like the legal implications avoid the area altogether, traffic drops and there are fewer accidents - everyone is happy!"
Not everybody obviously as Mr Cook demonstrates.
http://www.homezones
.org/legal.html
Give Councils powers to extract money from motorists and they will dream up all sort of schemes to do so. It is all about politics at the European level. They say "Many of the countries support the idea of giving legal priority to pedestrians and cyclists. In this situation, in the case of a RTA (Road Traffic Accident) within a Home Zone, it is the driver of the car who is held responsible, the burden is automatically on the driver to prove otherwise. This may be considered an infringement in justice laws, but it has produced the desired effect and drivers are being forced to think before they act. Those who do not like the legal implications avoid the area altogether, traffic drops and there are fewer accidents - everyone is happy!" Not everybody obviously as Mr Cook demonstrates. http://www.homezones .org/legal.html rayc
  • Score: 10

9:53am Mon 25 Aug 14

fizzy fert says...

£35
Its nothing £35
same geezer who spots a 1 pence in the smelly gutter and picks it up you know it is.
£35 Its nothing £35 same geezer who spots a 1 pence in the smelly gutter and picks it up you know it is. fizzy fert
  • Score: -18

9:55am Mon 25 Aug 14

Solentcherry says...

Should have claimed 'travellers rights'.
Should have claimed 'travellers rights'. Solentcherry
  • Score: 14

10:06am Mon 25 Aug 14

rozmister says...

penhalereturns wrote:
rozmister wrote:
Carolyn43 wrote:
Well I hadn't heard of "Home Zones". Is this a national thing or is it something that Bournemouth Council has dreamt up and assumed everyone would know about it?
Home zones are a national thing, they're meant to meet pedestrian, cycles & cars needs all at once and encourage resident's to slow down and be more aware of their surroundings. Probably a good idea when there's a school on the square!
I cant really see how fining someone for parking for 10 minutes makes it safer for pedestrians and cyclists.
Its obviously not a place for everyone to use and enjoy otherwise there would be no fine for using it, but I suppose the council have to make up the financial loss of their camera car.
He parked in the wrong area (e.g. not in a car parking space) just like a normal road restrictions apply. You can't park anywhere you fancy and then complain that you weren't allowed to use and enjoy the area otherwise everyone would park right outside the shops and block access for other drivers!

Have you visited st james' square to actually know what the area looks like? It's got no raised kerbs, wide pavements and a playground in the middle, it definitely does what a Home Zone is meant to do which is make it easy for everyone to travel around the area rather than just cars!
[quote][p][bold]penhalereturns[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rozmister[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Carolyn43[/bold] wrote: Well I hadn't heard of "Home Zones". Is this a national thing or is it something that Bournemouth Council has dreamt up and assumed everyone would know about it?[/p][/quote]Home zones are a national thing, they're meant to meet pedestrian, cycles & cars needs all at once and encourage resident's to slow down and be more aware of their surroundings. Probably a good idea when there's a school on the square![/p][/quote]I cant really see how fining someone for parking for 10 minutes makes it safer for pedestrians and cyclists. Its obviously not a place for everyone to use and enjoy otherwise there would be no fine for using it, but I suppose the council have to make up the financial loss of their camera car.[/p][/quote]He parked in the wrong area (e.g. not in a car parking space) just like a normal road restrictions apply. You can't park anywhere you fancy and then complain that you weren't allowed to use and enjoy the area otherwise everyone would park right outside the shops and block access for other drivers! Have you visited st james' square to actually know what the area looks like? It's got no raised kerbs, wide pavements and a playground in the middle, it definitely does what a Home Zone is meant to do which is make it easy for everyone to travel around the area rather than just cars! rozmister
  • Score: 0

10:22am Mon 25 Aug 14

gameon says...

Hey Ken just buy a £ 100 grand motorhome say your a Traveller park where you like and guaranteed you wont get a ticket plus the council will come and see you and make sure you have food and water and clothes for the Kids Happy Days Ken
Hey Ken just buy a £ 100 grand motorhome say your a Traveller park where you like and guaranteed you wont get a ticket plus the council will come and see you and make sure you have food and water and clothes for the Kids Happy Days Ken gameon
  • Score: 14

10:22am Mon 25 Aug 14

penhalereturns says...

rozmister wrote:
penhalereturns wrote:
rozmister wrote:
Carolyn43 wrote:
Well I hadn't heard of "Home Zones". Is this a national thing or is it something that Bournemouth Council has dreamt up and assumed everyone would know about it?
Home zones are a national thing, they're meant to meet pedestrian, cycles & cars needs all at once and encourage resident's to slow down and be more aware of their surroundings. Probably a good idea when there's a school on the square!
I cant really see how fining someone for parking for 10 minutes makes it safer for pedestrians and cyclists.
Its obviously not a place for everyone to use and enjoy otherwise there would be no fine for using it, but I suppose the council have to make up the financial loss of their camera car.
He parked in the wrong area (e.g. not in a car parking space) just like a normal road restrictions apply. You can't park anywhere you fancy and then complain that you weren't allowed to use and enjoy the area otherwise everyone would park right outside the shops and block access for other drivers!

Have you visited st james' square to actually know what the area looks like? It's got no raised kerbs, wide pavements and a playground in the middle, it definitely does what a Home Zone is meant to do which is make it easy for everyone to travel around the area rather than just cars!
He was causing no danger to anyone.
I personally welcome the governments ruling on cctv cars and the added suggestion that they are introducing a new right to allow local residents and local firms to demand a review of parking in their area, including charges and the use of yellow lines, parking fines and restrictions have become way out of kilter along with the excuse that its all done for safety, £35 for ten minutes it took to pick up his grand daughter, has anyone thought about the safety of his grand daughter had he not been there in time, simple revenue raising , end of.
[quote][p][bold]rozmister[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]penhalereturns[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rozmister[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Carolyn43[/bold] wrote: Well I hadn't heard of "Home Zones". Is this a national thing or is it something that Bournemouth Council has dreamt up and assumed everyone would know about it?[/p][/quote]Home zones are a national thing, they're meant to meet pedestrian, cycles & cars needs all at once and encourage resident's to slow down and be more aware of their surroundings. Probably a good idea when there's a school on the square![/p][/quote]I cant really see how fining someone for parking for 10 minutes makes it safer for pedestrians and cyclists. Its obviously not a place for everyone to use and enjoy otherwise there would be no fine for using it, but I suppose the council have to make up the financial loss of their camera car.[/p][/quote]He parked in the wrong area (e.g. not in a car parking space) just like a normal road restrictions apply. You can't park anywhere you fancy and then complain that you weren't allowed to use and enjoy the area otherwise everyone would park right outside the shops and block access for other drivers! Have you visited st james' square to actually know what the area looks like? It's got no raised kerbs, wide pavements and a playground in the middle, it definitely does what a Home Zone is meant to do which is make it easy for everyone to travel around the area rather than just cars![/p][/quote]He was causing no danger to anyone. I personally welcome the governments ruling on cctv cars and the added suggestion that they are introducing a new right to allow local residents and local firms to demand a review of parking in their area, including charges and the use of yellow lines, parking fines and restrictions have become way out of kilter along with the excuse that its all done for safety, £35 for ten minutes it took to pick up his grand daughter, has anyone thought about the safety of his grand daughter had he not been there in time, simple revenue raising , end of. penhalereturns
  • Score: -1

10:41am Mon 25 Aug 14

tbpoole says...

penhalereturns wrote:
rozmister wrote:
penhalereturns wrote:
rozmister wrote:
Carolyn43 wrote:
Well I hadn't heard of "Home Zones". Is this a national thing or is it something that Bournemouth Council has dreamt up and assumed everyone would know about it?
Home zones are a national thing, they're meant to meet pedestrian, cycles & cars needs all at once and encourage resident's to slow down and be more aware of their surroundings. Probably a good idea when there's a school on the square!
I cant really see how fining someone for parking for 10 minutes makes it safer for pedestrians and cyclists.
Its obviously not a place for everyone to use and enjoy otherwise there would be no fine for using it, but I suppose the council have to make up the financial loss of their camera car.
He parked in the wrong area (e.g. not in a car parking space) just like a normal road restrictions apply. You can't park anywhere you fancy and then complain that you weren't allowed to use and enjoy the area otherwise everyone would park right outside the shops and block access for other drivers!

Have you visited st james' square to actually know what the area looks like? It's got no raised kerbs, wide pavements and a playground in the middle, it definitely does what a Home Zone is meant to do which is make it easy for everyone to travel around the area rather than just cars!
He was causing no danger to anyone.
I personally welcome the governments ruling on cctv cars and the added suggestion that they are introducing a new right to allow local residents and local firms to demand a review of parking in their area, including charges and the use of yellow lines, parking fines and restrictions have become way out of kilter along with the excuse that its all done for safety, £35 for ten minutes it took to pick up his grand daughter, has anyone thought about the safety of his grand daughter had he not been there in time, simple revenue raising , end of.
CCTV cars haven't been banned. End of.
[quote][p][bold]penhalereturns[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rozmister[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]penhalereturns[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rozmister[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Carolyn43[/bold] wrote: Well I hadn't heard of "Home Zones". Is this a national thing or is it something that Bournemouth Council has dreamt up and assumed everyone would know about it?[/p][/quote]Home zones are a national thing, they're meant to meet pedestrian, cycles & cars needs all at once and encourage resident's to slow down and be more aware of their surroundings. Probably a good idea when there's a school on the square![/p][/quote]I cant really see how fining someone for parking for 10 minutes makes it safer for pedestrians and cyclists. Its obviously not a place for everyone to use and enjoy otherwise there would be no fine for using it, but I suppose the council have to make up the financial loss of their camera car.[/p][/quote]He parked in the wrong area (e.g. not in a car parking space) just like a normal road restrictions apply. You can't park anywhere you fancy and then complain that you weren't allowed to use and enjoy the area otherwise everyone would park right outside the shops and block access for other drivers! Have you visited st james' square to actually know what the area looks like? It's got no raised kerbs, wide pavements and a playground in the middle, it definitely does what a Home Zone is meant to do which is make it easy for everyone to travel around the area rather than just cars![/p][/quote]He was causing no danger to anyone. I personally welcome the governments ruling on cctv cars and the added suggestion that they are introducing a new right to allow local residents and local firms to demand a review of parking in their area, including charges and the use of yellow lines, parking fines and restrictions have become way out of kilter along with the excuse that its all done for safety, £35 for ten minutes it took to pick up his grand daughter, has anyone thought about the safety of his grand daughter had he not been there in time, simple revenue raising , end of.[/p][/quote]CCTV cars haven't been banned. End of. tbpoole
  • Score: 2

10:48am Mon 25 Aug 14

penhalereturns says...

tbpoole wrote:
penhalereturns wrote:
rozmister wrote:
penhalereturns wrote:
rozmister wrote:
Carolyn43 wrote:
Well I hadn't heard of "Home Zones". Is this a national thing or is it something that Bournemouth Council has dreamt up and assumed everyone would know about it?
Home zones are a national thing, they're meant to meet pedestrian, cycles & cars needs all at once and encourage resident's to slow down and be more aware of their surroundings. Probably a good idea when there's a school on the square!
I cant really see how fining someone for parking for 10 minutes makes it safer for pedestrians and cyclists.
Its obviously not a place for everyone to use and enjoy otherwise there would be no fine for using it, but I suppose the council have to make up the financial loss of their camera car.
He parked in the wrong area (e.g. not in a car parking space) just like a normal road restrictions apply. You can't park anywhere you fancy and then complain that you weren't allowed to use and enjoy the area otherwise everyone would park right outside the shops and block access for other drivers!

Have you visited st james' square to actually know what the area looks like? It's got no raised kerbs, wide pavements and a playground in the middle, it definitely does what a Home Zone is meant to do which is make it easy for everyone to travel around the area rather than just cars!
He was causing no danger to anyone.
I personally welcome the governments ruling on cctv cars and the added suggestion that they are introducing a new right to allow local residents and local firms to demand a review of parking in their area, including charges and the use of yellow lines, parking fines and restrictions have become way out of kilter along with the excuse that its all done for safety, £35 for ten minutes it took to pick up his grand daughter, has anyone thought about the safety of his grand daughter had he not been there in time, simple revenue raising , end of.
CCTV cars haven't been banned. End of.
Not yet but they will be very shortly, end of.
[quote][p][bold]tbpoole[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]penhalereturns[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rozmister[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]penhalereturns[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rozmister[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Carolyn43[/bold] wrote: Well I hadn't heard of "Home Zones". Is this a national thing or is it something that Bournemouth Council has dreamt up and assumed everyone would know about it?[/p][/quote]Home zones are a national thing, they're meant to meet pedestrian, cycles & cars needs all at once and encourage resident's to slow down and be more aware of their surroundings. Probably a good idea when there's a school on the square![/p][/quote]I cant really see how fining someone for parking for 10 minutes makes it safer for pedestrians and cyclists. Its obviously not a place for everyone to use and enjoy otherwise there would be no fine for using it, but I suppose the council have to make up the financial loss of their camera car.[/p][/quote]He parked in the wrong area (e.g. not in a car parking space) just like a normal road restrictions apply. You can't park anywhere you fancy and then complain that you weren't allowed to use and enjoy the area otherwise everyone would park right outside the shops and block access for other drivers! Have you visited st james' square to actually know what the area looks like? It's got no raised kerbs, wide pavements and a playground in the middle, it definitely does what a Home Zone is meant to do which is make it easy for everyone to travel around the area rather than just cars![/p][/quote]He was causing no danger to anyone. I personally welcome the governments ruling on cctv cars and the added suggestion that they are introducing a new right to allow local residents and local firms to demand a review of parking in their area, including charges and the use of yellow lines, parking fines and restrictions have become way out of kilter along with the excuse that its all done for safety, £35 for ten minutes it took to pick up his grand daughter, has anyone thought about the safety of his grand daughter had he not been there in time, simple revenue raising , end of.[/p][/quote]CCTV cars haven't been banned. End of.[/p][/quote]Not yet but they will be very shortly, end of. penhalereturns
  • Score: -1

11:24am Mon 25 Aug 14

rozmister says...

penhalereturns wrote:
rozmister wrote:
penhalereturns wrote:
rozmister wrote:
Carolyn43 wrote:
Well I hadn't heard of "Home Zones". Is this a national thing or is it something that Bournemouth Council has dreamt up and assumed everyone would know about it?
Home zones are a national thing, they're meant to meet pedestrian, cycles & cars needs all at once and encourage resident's to slow down and be more aware of their surroundings. Probably a good idea when there's a school on the square!
I cant really see how fining someone for parking for 10 minutes makes it safer for pedestrians and cyclists.
Its obviously not a place for everyone to use and enjoy otherwise there would be no fine for using it, but I suppose the council have to make up the financial loss of their camera car.
He parked in the wrong area (e.g. not in a car parking space) just like a normal road restrictions apply. You can't park anywhere you fancy and then complain that you weren't allowed to use and enjoy the area otherwise everyone would park right outside the shops and block access for other drivers!

Have you visited st james' square to actually know what the area looks like? It's got no raised kerbs, wide pavements and a playground in the middle, it definitely does what a Home Zone is meant to do which is make it easy for everyone to travel around the area rather than just cars!
He was causing no danger to anyone.
I personally welcome the governments ruling on cctv cars and the added suggestion that they are introducing a new right to allow local residents and local firms to demand a review of parking in their area, including charges and the use of yellow lines, parking fines and restrictions have become way out of kilter along with the excuse that its all done for safety, £35 for ten minutes it took to pick up his grand daughter, has anyone thought about the safety of his grand daughter had he not been there in time, simple revenue raising , end of.
The local residents in this area lobbied for years to have the area turned into a Home Zone so I don't think any changes allowing them to demand a review are relevant here. It took the residents years of pestering the council to get it changed to the current set up!!

His grand daughter would have been perfectly safe if he wasn't there, schools don't just turf all the primary school aged children out onto the pavement at the end of the day!! Trying to make out his daughter wouldn't be safe in the care of the teachers and school staff who look after her for the rest of the day is drama for the sake of it.
[quote][p][bold]penhalereturns[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rozmister[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]penhalereturns[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rozmister[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Carolyn43[/bold] wrote: Well I hadn't heard of "Home Zones". Is this a national thing or is it something that Bournemouth Council has dreamt up and assumed everyone would know about it?[/p][/quote]Home zones are a national thing, they're meant to meet pedestrian, cycles & cars needs all at once and encourage resident's to slow down and be more aware of their surroundings. Probably a good idea when there's a school on the square![/p][/quote]I cant really see how fining someone for parking for 10 minutes makes it safer for pedestrians and cyclists. Its obviously not a place for everyone to use and enjoy otherwise there would be no fine for using it, but I suppose the council have to make up the financial loss of their camera car.[/p][/quote]He parked in the wrong area (e.g. not in a car parking space) just like a normal road restrictions apply. You can't park anywhere you fancy and then complain that you weren't allowed to use and enjoy the area otherwise everyone would park right outside the shops and block access for other drivers! Have you visited st james' square to actually know what the area looks like? It's got no raised kerbs, wide pavements and a playground in the middle, it definitely does what a Home Zone is meant to do which is make it easy for everyone to travel around the area rather than just cars![/p][/quote]He was causing no danger to anyone. I personally welcome the governments ruling on cctv cars and the added suggestion that they are introducing a new right to allow local residents and local firms to demand a review of parking in their area, including charges and the use of yellow lines, parking fines and restrictions have become way out of kilter along with the excuse that its all done for safety, £35 for ten minutes it took to pick up his grand daughter, has anyone thought about the safety of his grand daughter had he not been there in time, simple revenue raising , end of.[/p][/quote]The local residents in this area lobbied for years to have the area turned into a Home Zone so I don't think any changes allowing them to demand a review are relevant here. It took the residents years of pestering the council to get it changed to the current set up!! His grand daughter would have been perfectly safe if he wasn't there, schools don't just turf all the primary school aged children out onto the pavement at the end of the day!! Trying to make out his daughter wouldn't be safe in the care of the teachers and school staff who look after her for the rest of the day is drama for the sake of it. rozmister
  • Score: 1

11:45am Mon 25 Aug 14

penhalereturns says...

rozmister wrote:
penhalereturns wrote:
rozmister wrote:
penhalereturns wrote:
rozmister wrote:
Carolyn43 wrote:
Well I hadn't heard of "Home Zones". Is this a national thing or is it something that Bournemouth Council has dreamt up and assumed everyone would know about it?
Home zones are a national thing, they're meant to meet pedestrian, cycles & cars needs all at once and encourage resident's to slow down and be more aware of their surroundings. Probably a good idea when there's a school on the square!
I cant really see how fining someone for parking for 10 minutes makes it safer for pedestrians and cyclists.
Its obviously not a place for everyone to use and enjoy otherwise there would be no fine for using it, but I suppose the council have to make up the financial loss of their camera car.
He parked in the wrong area (e.g. not in a car parking space) just like a normal road restrictions apply. You can't park anywhere you fancy and then complain that you weren't allowed to use and enjoy the area otherwise everyone would park right outside the shops and block access for other drivers!

Have you visited st james' square to actually know what the area looks like? It's got no raised kerbs, wide pavements and a playground in the middle, it definitely does what a Home Zone is meant to do which is make it easy for everyone to travel around the area rather than just cars!
He was causing no danger to anyone.
I personally welcome the governments ruling on cctv cars and the added suggestion that they are introducing a new right to allow local residents and local firms to demand a review of parking in their area, including charges and the use of yellow lines, parking fines and restrictions have become way out of kilter along with the excuse that its all done for safety, £35 for ten minutes it took to pick up his grand daughter, has anyone thought about the safety of his grand daughter had he not been there in time, simple revenue raising , end of.
The local residents in this area lobbied for years to have the area turned into a Home Zone so I don't think any changes allowing them to demand a review are relevant here. It took the residents years of pestering the council to get it changed to the current set up!!

His grand daughter would have been perfectly safe if he wasn't there, schools don't just turf all the primary school aged children out onto the pavement at the end of the day!! Trying to make out his daughter wouldn't be safe in the care of the teachers and school staff who look after her for the rest of the day is drama for the sake of it.
This whole issue is a drama, fined £35 for parking for 10 minutes with the pretence of a breach of safety, don't make me laugh, nanny state etc, fine out of proportion, no one was in any danger, just another way to make money yet again.
[quote][p][bold]rozmister[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]penhalereturns[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rozmister[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]penhalereturns[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rozmister[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Carolyn43[/bold] wrote: Well I hadn't heard of "Home Zones". Is this a national thing or is it something that Bournemouth Council has dreamt up and assumed everyone would know about it?[/p][/quote]Home zones are a national thing, they're meant to meet pedestrian, cycles & cars needs all at once and encourage resident's to slow down and be more aware of their surroundings. Probably a good idea when there's a school on the square![/p][/quote]I cant really see how fining someone for parking for 10 minutes makes it safer for pedestrians and cyclists. Its obviously not a place for everyone to use and enjoy otherwise there would be no fine for using it, but I suppose the council have to make up the financial loss of their camera car.[/p][/quote]He parked in the wrong area (e.g. not in a car parking space) just like a normal road restrictions apply. You can't park anywhere you fancy and then complain that you weren't allowed to use and enjoy the area otherwise everyone would park right outside the shops and block access for other drivers! Have you visited st james' square to actually know what the area looks like? It's got no raised kerbs, wide pavements and a playground in the middle, it definitely does what a Home Zone is meant to do which is make it easy for everyone to travel around the area rather than just cars![/p][/quote]He was causing no danger to anyone. I personally welcome the governments ruling on cctv cars and the added suggestion that they are introducing a new right to allow local residents and local firms to demand a review of parking in their area, including charges and the use of yellow lines, parking fines and restrictions have become way out of kilter along with the excuse that its all done for safety, £35 for ten minutes it took to pick up his grand daughter, has anyone thought about the safety of his grand daughter had he not been there in time, simple revenue raising , end of.[/p][/quote]The local residents in this area lobbied for years to have the area turned into a Home Zone so I don't think any changes allowing them to demand a review are relevant here. It took the residents years of pestering the council to get it changed to the current set up!! His grand daughter would have been perfectly safe if he wasn't there, schools don't just turf all the primary school aged children out onto the pavement at the end of the day!! Trying to make out his daughter wouldn't be safe in the care of the teachers and school staff who look after her for the rest of the day is drama for the sake of it.[/p][/quote]This whole issue is a drama, fined £35 for parking for 10 minutes with the pretence of a breach of safety, don't make me laugh, nanny state etc, fine out of proportion, no one was in any danger, just another way to make money yet again. penhalereturns
  • Score: 3

12:26pm Mon 25 Aug 14

tbpoole says...

penhalereturns wrote:
tbpoole wrote:
penhalereturns wrote:
rozmister wrote:
penhalereturns wrote:
rozmister wrote:
Carolyn43 wrote:
Well I hadn't heard of "Home Zones". Is this a national thing or is it something that Bournemouth Council has dreamt up and assumed everyone would know about it?
Home zones are a national thing, they're meant to meet pedestrian, cycles & cars needs all at once and encourage resident's to slow down and be more aware of their surroundings. Probably a good idea when there's a school on the square!
I cant really see how fining someone for parking for 10 minutes makes it safer for pedestrians and cyclists.
Its obviously not a place for everyone to use and enjoy otherwise there would be no fine for using it, but I suppose the council have to make up the financial loss of their camera car.
He parked in the wrong area (e.g. not in a car parking space) just like a normal road restrictions apply. You can't park anywhere you fancy and then complain that you weren't allowed to use and enjoy the area otherwise everyone would park right outside the shops and block access for other drivers!

Have you visited st james' square to actually know what the area looks like? It's got no raised kerbs, wide pavements and a playground in the middle, it definitely does what a Home Zone is meant to do which is make it easy for everyone to travel around the area rather than just cars!
He was causing no danger to anyone.
I personally welcome the governments ruling on cctv cars and the added suggestion that they are introducing a new right to allow local residents and local firms to demand a review of parking in their area, including charges and the use of yellow lines, parking fines and restrictions have become way out of kilter along with the excuse that its all done for safety, £35 for ten minutes it took to pick up his grand daughter, has anyone thought about the safety of his grand daughter had he not been there in time, simple revenue raising , end of.
CCTV cars haven't been banned. End of.
Not yet but they will be very shortly, end of.
No they won't. They are just being restricted in where they can be used. They will still operate on school keep clears.
[quote][p][bold]penhalereturns[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tbpoole[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]penhalereturns[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rozmister[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]penhalereturns[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rozmister[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Carolyn43[/bold] wrote: Well I hadn't heard of "Home Zones". Is this a national thing or is it something that Bournemouth Council has dreamt up and assumed everyone would know about it?[/p][/quote]Home zones are a national thing, they're meant to meet pedestrian, cycles & cars needs all at once and encourage resident's to slow down and be more aware of their surroundings. Probably a good idea when there's a school on the square![/p][/quote]I cant really see how fining someone for parking for 10 minutes makes it safer for pedestrians and cyclists. Its obviously not a place for everyone to use and enjoy otherwise there would be no fine for using it, but I suppose the council have to make up the financial loss of their camera car.[/p][/quote]He parked in the wrong area (e.g. not in a car parking space) just like a normal road restrictions apply. You can't park anywhere you fancy and then complain that you weren't allowed to use and enjoy the area otherwise everyone would park right outside the shops and block access for other drivers! Have you visited st james' square to actually know what the area looks like? It's got no raised kerbs, wide pavements and a playground in the middle, it definitely does what a Home Zone is meant to do which is make it easy for everyone to travel around the area rather than just cars![/p][/quote]He was causing no danger to anyone. I personally welcome the governments ruling on cctv cars and the added suggestion that they are introducing a new right to allow local residents and local firms to demand a review of parking in their area, including charges and the use of yellow lines, parking fines and restrictions have become way out of kilter along with the excuse that its all done for safety, £35 for ten minutes it took to pick up his grand daughter, has anyone thought about the safety of his grand daughter had he not been there in time, simple revenue raising , end of.[/p][/quote]CCTV cars haven't been banned. End of.[/p][/quote]Not yet but they will be very shortly, end of.[/p][/quote]No they won't. They are just being restricted in where they can be used. They will still operate on school keep clears. tbpoole
  • Score: 6

12:26pm Mon 25 Aug 14

rozmister says...

penhalereturns wrote:
rozmister wrote:
penhalereturns wrote:
rozmister wrote:
penhalereturns wrote:
rozmister wrote:
Carolyn43 wrote:
Well I hadn't heard of "Home Zones". Is this a national thing or is it something that Bournemouth Council has dreamt up and assumed everyone would know about it?
Home zones are a national thing, they're meant to meet pedestrian, cycles & cars needs all at once and encourage resident's to slow down and be more aware of their surroundings. Probably a good idea when there's a school on the square!
I cant really see how fining someone for parking for 10 minutes makes it safer for pedestrians and cyclists.
Its obviously not a place for everyone to use and enjoy otherwise there would be no fine for using it, but I suppose the council have to make up the financial loss of their camera car.
He parked in the wrong area (e.g. not in a car parking space) just like a normal road restrictions apply. You can't park anywhere you fancy and then complain that you weren't allowed to use and enjoy the area otherwise everyone would park right outside the shops and block access for other drivers!

Have you visited st james' square to actually know what the area looks like? It's got no raised kerbs, wide pavements and a playground in the middle, it definitely does what a Home Zone is meant to do which is make it easy for everyone to travel around the area rather than just cars!
He was causing no danger to anyone.
I personally welcome the governments ruling on cctv cars and the added suggestion that they are introducing a new right to allow local residents and local firms to demand a review of parking in their area, including charges and the use of yellow lines, parking fines and restrictions have become way out of kilter along with the excuse that its all done for safety, £35 for ten minutes it took to pick up his grand daughter, has anyone thought about the safety of his grand daughter had he not been there in time, simple revenue raising , end of.
The local residents in this area lobbied for years to have the area turned into a Home Zone so I don't think any changes allowing them to demand a review are relevant here. It took the residents years of pestering the council to get it changed to the current set up!!

His grand daughter would have been perfectly safe if he wasn't there, schools don't just turf all the primary school aged children out onto the pavement at the end of the day!! Trying to make out his daughter wouldn't be safe in the care of the teachers and school staff who look after her for the rest of the day is drama for the sake of it.
This whole issue is a drama, fined £35 for parking for 10 minutes with the pretence of a breach of safety, don't make me laugh, nanny state etc, fine out of proportion, no one was in any danger, just another way to make money yet again.
If everyone parked wherever they liked the roads would be less safe, that's a fact. Cars parked everywhere means the view is obstructed for drivers, if a child runs out from behind a car that shouldn't be parked in that spot it's dangerous.

If people don't want to be fined park in the allocated spaces, it's really quite simple. Everyone else manages to follow the rules of the road and not get tickets. You make a CHOICE that leads to a fine and your money ending up in the Council's pockets.
[quote][p][bold]penhalereturns[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rozmister[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]penhalereturns[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rozmister[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]penhalereturns[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rozmister[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Carolyn43[/bold] wrote: Well I hadn't heard of "Home Zones". Is this a national thing or is it something that Bournemouth Council has dreamt up and assumed everyone would know about it?[/p][/quote]Home zones are a national thing, they're meant to meet pedestrian, cycles & cars needs all at once and encourage resident's to slow down and be more aware of their surroundings. Probably a good idea when there's a school on the square![/p][/quote]I cant really see how fining someone for parking for 10 minutes makes it safer for pedestrians and cyclists. Its obviously not a place for everyone to use and enjoy otherwise there would be no fine for using it, but I suppose the council have to make up the financial loss of their camera car.[/p][/quote]He parked in the wrong area (e.g. not in a car parking space) just like a normal road restrictions apply. You can't park anywhere you fancy and then complain that you weren't allowed to use and enjoy the area otherwise everyone would park right outside the shops and block access for other drivers! Have you visited st james' square to actually know what the area looks like? It's got no raised kerbs, wide pavements and a playground in the middle, it definitely does what a Home Zone is meant to do which is make it easy for everyone to travel around the area rather than just cars![/p][/quote]He was causing no danger to anyone. I personally welcome the governments ruling on cctv cars and the added suggestion that they are introducing a new right to allow local residents and local firms to demand a review of parking in their area, including charges and the use of yellow lines, parking fines and restrictions have become way out of kilter along with the excuse that its all done for safety, £35 for ten minutes it took to pick up his grand daughter, has anyone thought about the safety of his grand daughter had he not been there in time, simple revenue raising , end of.[/p][/quote]The local residents in this area lobbied for years to have the area turned into a Home Zone so I don't think any changes allowing them to demand a review are relevant here. It took the residents years of pestering the council to get it changed to the current set up!! His grand daughter would have been perfectly safe if he wasn't there, schools don't just turf all the primary school aged children out onto the pavement at the end of the day!! Trying to make out his daughter wouldn't be safe in the care of the teachers and school staff who look after her for the rest of the day is drama for the sake of it.[/p][/quote]This whole issue is a drama, fined £35 for parking for 10 minutes with the pretence of a breach of safety, don't make me laugh, nanny state etc, fine out of proportion, no one was in any danger, just another way to make money yet again.[/p][/quote]If everyone parked wherever they liked the roads would be less safe, that's a fact. Cars parked everywhere means the view is obstructed for drivers, if a child runs out from behind a car that shouldn't be parked in that spot it's dangerous. If people don't want to be fined park in the allocated spaces, it's really quite simple. Everyone else manages to follow the rules of the road and not get tickets. You make a CHOICE that leads to a fine and your money ending up in the Council's pockets. rozmister
  • Score: 6

12:27pm Mon 25 Aug 14

bobthedestroyer says...

penhalereturns wrote:
rozmister wrote:
Carolyn43 wrote:
Well I hadn't heard of "Home Zones". Is this a national thing or is it something that Bournemouth Council has dreamt up and assumed everyone would know about it?
Home zones are a national thing, they're meant to meet pedestrian, cycles & cars needs all at once and encourage resident's to slow down and be more aware of their surroundings. Probably a good idea when there's a school on the square!
I cant really see how fining someone for parking for 10 minutes makes it safer for pedestrians and cyclists.
Its obviously not a place for everyone to use and enjoy otherwise there would be no fine for using it, but I suppose the council have to make up the financial loss of their camera car.
Yet the safety camera van can park on double yellows for 10 mins and that's fine. This area should have lines down to make it clearer for all. If there were lines down and he'd parked he wouldn't be able to complain. As others have commented he's paid the money so the council dept aren't going to give a toss.
[quote][p][bold]penhalereturns[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rozmister[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Carolyn43[/bold] wrote: Well I hadn't heard of "Home Zones". Is this a national thing or is it something that Bournemouth Council has dreamt up and assumed everyone would know about it?[/p][/quote]Home zones are a national thing, they're meant to meet pedestrian, cycles & cars needs all at once and encourage resident's to slow down and be more aware of their surroundings. Probably a good idea when there's a school on the square![/p][/quote]I cant really see how fining someone for parking for 10 minutes makes it safer for pedestrians and cyclists. Its obviously not a place for everyone to use and enjoy otherwise there would be no fine for using it, but I suppose the council have to make up the financial loss of their camera car.[/p][/quote]Yet the safety camera van can park on double yellows for 10 mins and that's fine. This area should have lines down to make it clearer for all. If there were lines down and he'd parked he wouldn't be able to complain. As others have commented he's paid the money so the council dept aren't going to give a toss. bobthedestroyer
  • Score: 4

12:28pm Mon 25 Aug 14

tbpoole says...

penhalereturns wrote:
rozmister wrote:
penhalereturns wrote:
rozmister wrote:
penhalereturns wrote:
rozmister wrote:
Carolyn43 wrote:
Well I hadn't heard of "Home Zones". Is this a national thing or is it something that Bournemouth Council has dreamt up and assumed everyone would know about it?
Home zones are a national thing, they're meant to meet pedestrian, cycles & cars needs all at once and encourage resident's to slow down and be more aware of their surroundings. Probably a good idea when there's a school on the square!
I cant really see how fining someone for parking for 10 minutes makes it safer for pedestrians and cyclists.
Its obviously not a place for everyone to use and enjoy otherwise there would be no fine for using it, but I suppose the council have to make up the financial loss of their camera car.
He parked in the wrong area (e.g. not in a car parking space) just like a normal road restrictions apply. You can't park anywhere you fancy and then complain that you weren't allowed to use and enjoy the area otherwise everyone would park right outside the shops and block access for other drivers!

Have you visited st james' square to actually know what the area looks like? It's got no raised kerbs, wide pavements and a playground in the middle, it definitely does what a Home Zone is meant to do which is make it easy for everyone to travel around the area rather than just cars!
He was causing no danger to anyone.
I personally welcome the governments ruling on cctv cars and the added suggestion that they are introducing a new right to allow local residents and local firms to demand a review of parking in their area, including charges and the use of yellow lines, parking fines and restrictions have become way out of kilter along with the excuse that its all done for safety, £35 for ten minutes it took to pick up his grand daughter, has anyone thought about the safety of his grand daughter had he not been there in time, simple revenue raising , end of.
The local residents in this area lobbied for years to have the area turned into a Home Zone so I don't think any changes allowing them to demand a review are relevant here. It took the residents years of pestering the council to get it changed to the current set up!!

His grand daughter would have been perfectly safe if he wasn't there, schools don't just turf all the primary school aged children out onto the pavement at the end of the day!! Trying to make out his daughter wouldn't be safe in the care of the teachers and school staff who look after her for the rest of the day is drama for the sake of it.
This whole issue is a drama, fined £35 for parking for 10 minutes with the pretence of a breach of safety, don't make me laugh, nanny state etc, fine out of proportion, no one was in any danger, just another way to make money yet again.
...and you know no-one was in any danger because.......?
[quote][p][bold]penhalereturns[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rozmister[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]penhalereturns[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rozmister[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]penhalereturns[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rozmister[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Carolyn43[/bold] wrote: Well I hadn't heard of "Home Zones". Is this a national thing or is it something that Bournemouth Council has dreamt up and assumed everyone would know about it?[/p][/quote]Home zones are a national thing, they're meant to meet pedestrian, cycles & cars needs all at once and encourage resident's to slow down and be more aware of their surroundings. Probably a good idea when there's a school on the square![/p][/quote]I cant really see how fining someone for parking for 10 minutes makes it safer for pedestrians and cyclists. Its obviously not a place for everyone to use and enjoy otherwise there would be no fine for using it, but I suppose the council have to make up the financial loss of their camera car.[/p][/quote]He parked in the wrong area (e.g. not in a car parking space) just like a normal road restrictions apply. You can't park anywhere you fancy and then complain that you weren't allowed to use and enjoy the area otherwise everyone would park right outside the shops and block access for other drivers! Have you visited st james' square to actually know what the area looks like? It's got no raised kerbs, wide pavements and a playground in the middle, it definitely does what a Home Zone is meant to do which is make it easy for everyone to travel around the area rather than just cars![/p][/quote]He was causing no danger to anyone. I personally welcome the governments ruling on cctv cars and the added suggestion that they are introducing a new right to allow local residents and local firms to demand a review of parking in their area, including charges and the use of yellow lines, parking fines and restrictions have become way out of kilter along with the excuse that its all done for safety, £35 for ten minutes it took to pick up his grand daughter, has anyone thought about the safety of his grand daughter had he not been there in time, simple revenue raising , end of.[/p][/quote]The local residents in this area lobbied for years to have the area turned into a Home Zone so I don't think any changes allowing them to demand a review are relevant here. It took the residents years of pestering the council to get it changed to the current set up!! His grand daughter would have been perfectly safe if he wasn't there, schools don't just turf all the primary school aged children out onto the pavement at the end of the day!! Trying to make out his daughter wouldn't be safe in the care of the teachers and school staff who look after her for the rest of the day is drama for the sake of it.[/p][/quote]This whole issue is a drama, fined £35 for parking for 10 minutes with the pretence of a breach of safety, don't make me laugh, nanny state etc, fine out of proportion, no one was in any danger, just another way to make money yet again.[/p][/quote]...and you know no-one was in any danger because.......? tbpoole
  • Score: 1

12:31pm Mon 25 Aug 14

tbpoole says...

penhalereturns wrote:
rozmister wrote:
penhalereturns wrote:
rozmister wrote:
penhalereturns wrote:
rozmister wrote:
Carolyn43 wrote:
Well I hadn't heard of "Home Zones". Is this a national thing or is it something that Bournemouth Council has dreamt up and assumed everyone would know about it?
Home zones are a national thing, they're meant to meet pedestrian, cycles & cars needs all at once and encourage resident's to slow down and be more aware of their surroundings. Probably a good idea when there's a school on the square!
I cant really see how fining someone for parking for 10 minutes makes it safer for pedestrians and cyclists.
Its obviously not a place for everyone to use and enjoy otherwise there would be no fine for using it, but I suppose the council have to make up the financial loss of their camera car.
He parked in the wrong area (e.g. not in a car parking space) just like a normal road restrictions apply. You can't park anywhere you fancy and then complain that you weren't allowed to use and enjoy the area otherwise everyone would park right outside the shops and block access for other drivers!

Have you visited st james' square to actually know what the area looks like? It's got no raised kerbs, wide pavements and a playground in the middle, it definitely does what a Home Zone is meant to do which is make it easy for everyone to travel around the area rather than just cars!
He was causing no danger to anyone.
I personally welcome the governments ruling on cctv cars and the added suggestion that they are introducing a new right to allow local residents and local firms to demand a review of parking in their area, including charges and the use of yellow lines, parking fines and restrictions have become way out of kilter along with the excuse that its all done for safety, £35 for ten minutes it took to pick up his grand daughter, has anyone thought about the safety of his grand daughter had he not been there in time, simple revenue raising , end of.
The local residents in this area lobbied for years to have the area turned into a Home Zone so I don't think any changes allowing them to demand a review are relevant here. It took the residents years of pestering the council to get it changed to the current set up!!

His grand daughter would have been perfectly safe if he wasn't there, schools don't just turf all the primary school aged children out onto the pavement at the end of the day!! Trying to make out his daughter wouldn't be safe in the care of the teachers and school staff who look after her for the rest of the day is drama for the sake of it.
This whole issue is a drama, fined £35 for parking for 10 minutes with the pretence of a breach of safety, don't make me laugh, nanny state etc, fine out of proportion, no one was in any danger, just another way to make money yet again.
What's with the £35 for ten minutes cr*p? He would have been penalised the same if it had been there for three days. It is not a rate per minute; it is a penalty per infringement.
[quote][p][bold]penhalereturns[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rozmister[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]penhalereturns[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rozmister[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]penhalereturns[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rozmister[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Carolyn43[/bold] wrote: Well I hadn't heard of "Home Zones". Is this a national thing or is it something that Bournemouth Council has dreamt up and assumed everyone would know about it?[/p][/quote]Home zones are a national thing, they're meant to meet pedestrian, cycles & cars needs all at once and encourage resident's to slow down and be more aware of their surroundings. Probably a good idea when there's a school on the square![/p][/quote]I cant really see how fining someone for parking for 10 minutes makes it safer for pedestrians and cyclists. Its obviously not a place for everyone to use and enjoy otherwise there would be no fine for using it, but I suppose the council have to make up the financial loss of their camera car.[/p][/quote]He parked in the wrong area (e.g. not in a car parking space) just like a normal road restrictions apply. You can't park anywhere you fancy and then complain that you weren't allowed to use and enjoy the area otherwise everyone would park right outside the shops and block access for other drivers! Have you visited st james' square to actually know what the area looks like? It's got no raised kerbs, wide pavements and a playground in the middle, it definitely does what a Home Zone is meant to do which is make it easy for everyone to travel around the area rather than just cars![/p][/quote]He was causing no danger to anyone. I personally welcome the governments ruling on cctv cars and the added suggestion that they are introducing a new right to allow local residents and local firms to demand a review of parking in their area, including charges and the use of yellow lines, parking fines and restrictions have become way out of kilter along with the excuse that its all done for safety, £35 for ten minutes it took to pick up his grand daughter, has anyone thought about the safety of his grand daughter had he not been there in time, simple revenue raising , end of.[/p][/quote]The local residents in this area lobbied for years to have the area turned into a Home Zone so I don't think any changes allowing them to demand a review are relevant here. It took the residents years of pestering the council to get it changed to the current set up!! His grand daughter would have been perfectly safe if he wasn't there, schools don't just turf all the primary school aged children out onto the pavement at the end of the day!! Trying to make out his daughter wouldn't be safe in the care of the teachers and school staff who look after her for the rest of the day is drama for the sake of it.[/p][/quote]This whole issue is a drama, fined £35 for parking for 10 minutes with the pretence of a breach of safety, don't make me laugh, nanny state etc, fine out of proportion, no one was in any danger, just another way to make money yet again.[/p][/quote]What's with the £35 for ten minutes cr*p? He would have been penalised the same if it had been there for three days. It is not a rate per minute; it is a penalty per infringement. tbpoole
  • Score: 8

12:45pm Mon 25 Aug 14

rayc says...

Are there any infringements that would lead to a penalty charge being issued to any other class of user of the Home Zone in addition to motorists?
Are there any infringements that would lead to a penalty charge being issued to any other class of user of the Home Zone in addition to motorists? rayc
  • Score: 2

12:57pm Mon 25 Aug 14

tbpoole says...

rayc wrote:
Are there any infringements that would lead to a penalty charge being issued to any other class of user of the Home Zone in addition to motorists?
Tell me which road user introduces the greatest hazard and you have your answer.
[quote][p][bold]rayc[/bold] wrote: Are there any infringements that would lead to a penalty charge being issued to any other class of user of the Home Zone in addition to motorists?[/p][/quote]Tell me which road user introduces the greatest hazard and you have your answer. tbpoole
  • Score: 3

1:21pm Mon 25 Aug 14

Turtlebay says...

Mr Cook paid the £35 fine - once you pay they are no longer interested in you.

Also, it was a charge note not a fine. Only a court of Law can impose a fine!
Mr Cook paid the £35 fine - once you pay they are no longer interested in you. Also, it was a charge note not a fine. Only a court of Law can impose a fine! Turtlebay
  • Score: 5

3:03pm Mon 25 Aug 14

speedy231278 says...

Is that not Charles Dance?
Is that not Charles Dance? speedy231278
  • Score: -1

5:18pm Mon 25 Aug 14

ashleycross says...

This man is typical of the older motorist who think the rules everyone else is obeying by not parking there don't apply to them.
Grandparents on the school run are a menace. They think they can waltz in, park where everyone else isn't as if they left that area free for them rather than for the safety of the children. And no one should be able to get car insurance without an annual professional eye check and a note from their doctor to say their medication doesn't make them unsafe to drive. Ridiculous to make sure the car is working and not to check the motorist. Presumably yet another triumph by the AA with its ceaseless political lobbying against road safety.
This man is typical of the older motorist who think the rules everyone else is obeying by not parking there don't apply to them. Grandparents on the school run are a menace. They think they can waltz in, park where everyone else isn't as if they left that area free for them rather than for the safety of the children. And no one should be able to get car insurance without an annual professional eye check and a note from their doctor to say their medication doesn't make them unsafe to drive. Ridiculous to make sure the car is working and not to check the motorist. Presumably yet another triumph by the AA with its ceaseless political lobbying against road safety. ashleycross
  • Score: -6

5:21pm Mon 25 Aug 14

ashleycross says...

Carolyn43 wrote:
Well I hadn't heard of "Home Zones". Is this a national thing or is it something that Bournemouth Council has dreamt up and assumed everyone would know about it?
We have the same thing on Poole quay and have done for years. If no one else is parking there the basic rule is look carefully for any sign you may have gone past and ask someone local for advice.
[quote][p][bold]Carolyn43[/bold] wrote: Well I hadn't heard of "Home Zones". Is this a national thing or is it something that Bournemouth Council has dreamt up and assumed everyone would know about it?[/p][/quote]We have the same thing on Poole quay and have done for years. If no one else is parking there the basic rule is look carefully for any sign you may have gone past and ask someone local for advice. ashleycross
  • Score: 2

5:21pm Mon 25 Aug 14

ashleycross says...

Carolyn43 wrote:
Well I hadn't heard of "Home Zones". Is this a national thing or is it something that Bournemouth Council has dreamt up and assumed everyone would know about it?
We have the same thing on Poole quay and have done for years. If no one else is parking there the basic rule is look carefully for any sign you may have gone past and ask someone local for advice.
[quote][p][bold]Carolyn43[/bold] wrote: Well I hadn't heard of "Home Zones". Is this a national thing or is it something that Bournemouth Council has dreamt up and assumed everyone would know about it?[/p][/quote]We have the same thing on Poole quay and have done for years. If no one else is parking there the basic rule is look carefully for any sign you may have gone past and ask someone local for advice. ashleycross
  • Score: 2

5:58pm Mon 25 Aug 14

SympatheticSam says...

If this dimwit had read signs he would understand. No sympathy. Idiot.
If this dimwit had read signs he would understand. No sympathy. Idiot. SympatheticSam
  • Score: -5

6:42pm Mon 25 Aug 14

Carolyn43 says...

ashleycross wrote:
Carolyn43 wrote:
Well I hadn't heard of "Home Zones". Is this a national thing or is it something that Bournemouth Council has dreamt up and assumed everyone would know about it?
We have the same thing on Poole quay and have done for years. If no one else is parking there the basic rule is look carefully for any sign you may have gone past and ask someone local for advice.
Motorists looking carefully for sign?

What about all the motorists that drive down Old Orchard to the quay in spite of the sign just past Lagland Street showing no entry to cars, which is ignored by just about every motorist going down there. That's a place where many could be caught, but there's never anyone official there to see it.
[quote][p][bold]ashleycross[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Carolyn43[/bold] wrote: Well I hadn't heard of "Home Zones". Is this a national thing or is it something that Bournemouth Council has dreamt up and assumed everyone would know about it?[/p][/quote]We have the same thing on Poole quay and have done for years. If no one else is parking there the basic rule is look carefully for any sign you may have gone past and ask someone local for advice.[/p][/quote]Motorists looking carefully for sign? What about all the motorists that drive down Old Orchard to the quay in spite of the sign just past Lagland Street showing no entry to cars, which is ignored by just about every motorist going down there. That's a place where many could be caught, but there's never anyone official there to see it. Carolyn43
  • Score: 4

9:45pm Mon 25 Aug 14

fizzy fert says...

Carolyn43 wrote:
ashleycross wrote:
Carolyn43 wrote:
Well I hadn't heard of "Home Zones". Is this a national thing or is it something that Bournemouth Council has dreamt up and assumed everyone would know about it?
We have the same thing on Poole quay and have done for years. If no one else is parking there the basic rule is look carefully for any sign you may have gone past and ask someone local for advice.
Motorists looking carefully for sign?

What about all the motorists that drive down Old Orchard to the quay in spite of the sign just past Lagland Street showing no entry to cars, which is ignored by just about every motorist going down there. That's a place where many could be caught, but there's never anyone official there to see it.
Exactly there is no turn right at the roundabout
if you turn left it takes you to Baitor
if you go straight ahead you finish up in the harbour
and end up floating out of the harbour entrance you know it is.
[quote][p][bold]Carolyn43[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ashleycross[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Carolyn43[/bold] wrote: Well I hadn't heard of "Home Zones". Is this a national thing or is it something that Bournemouth Council has dreamt up and assumed everyone would know about it?[/p][/quote]We have the same thing on Poole quay and have done for years. If no one else is parking there the basic rule is look carefully for any sign you may have gone past and ask someone local for advice.[/p][/quote]Motorists looking carefully for sign? What about all the motorists that drive down Old Orchard to the quay in spite of the sign just past Lagland Street showing no entry to cars, which is ignored by just about every motorist going down there. That's a place where many could be caught, but there's never anyone official there to see it.[/p][/quote]Exactly there is no turn right at the roundabout if you turn left it takes you to Baitor if you go straight ahead you finish up in the harbour and end up floating out of the harbour entrance you know it is. fizzy fert
  • Score: 0

4:50am Tue 26 Aug 14

Nigel Blumenthal says...

Without wishing to get into the back-and-forth about whether home zones are a good or a bad thing, allegations of selfish behaviour, etc, it seems to me that, at least according to the angry subject of the story, he didn't see the signs. So the solution should be very simple: Just make sure that, when the council sets up an area where the parking controls are marked differently from the way they are everywhere else, they should put up a couple of large, conspicuous signs, and adequately mark the area. London does it with the congestion zone; the same principle applies here.
Without wishing to get into the back-and-forth about whether home zones are a good or a bad thing, allegations of selfish behaviour, etc, it seems to me that, at least according to the angry subject of the story, he didn't see the signs. So the solution should be very simple: Just make sure that, when the council sets up an area where the parking controls are marked differently from the way they are everywhere else, they should put up a couple of large, conspicuous signs, and adequately mark the area. London does it with the congestion zone; the same principle applies here. Nigel Blumenthal
  • Score: 2

9:34am Tue 26 Aug 14

penhalereturns says...

tbpoole wrote:
penhalereturns wrote:
rozmister wrote:
penhalereturns wrote:
rozmister wrote:
penhalereturns wrote:
rozmister wrote:
Carolyn43 wrote:
Well I hadn't heard of "Home Zones". Is this a national thing or is it something that Bournemouth Council has dreamt up and assumed everyone would know about it?
Home zones are a national thing, they're meant to meet pedestrian, cycles & cars needs all at once and encourage resident's to slow down and be more aware of their surroundings. Probably a good idea when there's a school on the square!
I cant really see how fining someone for parking for 10 minutes makes it safer for pedestrians and cyclists.
Its obviously not a place for everyone to use and enjoy otherwise there would be no fine for using it, but I suppose the council have to make up the financial loss of their camera car.
He parked in the wrong area (e.g. not in a car parking space) just like a normal road restrictions apply. You can't park anywhere you fancy and then complain that you weren't allowed to use and enjoy the area otherwise everyone would park right outside the shops and block access for other drivers!

Have you visited st james' square to actually know what the area looks like? It's got no raised kerbs, wide pavements and a playground in the middle, it definitely does what a Home Zone is meant to do which is make it easy for everyone to travel around the area rather than just cars!
He was causing no danger to anyone.
I personally welcome the governments ruling on cctv cars and the added suggestion that they are introducing a new right to allow local residents and local firms to demand a review of parking in their area, including charges and the use of yellow lines, parking fines and restrictions have become way out of kilter along with the excuse that its all done for safety, £35 for ten minutes it took to pick up his grand daughter, has anyone thought about the safety of his grand daughter had he not been there in time, simple revenue raising , end of.
The local residents in this area lobbied for years to have the area turned into a Home Zone so I don't think any changes allowing them to demand a review are relevant here. It took the residents years of pestering the council to get it changed to the current set up!!

His grand daughter would have been perfectly safe if he wasn't there, schools don't just turf all the primary school aged children out onto the pavement at the end of the day!! Trying to make out his daughter wouldn't be safe in the care of the teachers and school staff who look after her for the rest of the day is drama for the sake of it.
This whole issue is a drama, fined £35 for parking for 10 minutes with the pretence of a breach of safety, don't make me laugh, nanny state etc, fine out of proportion, no one was in any danger, just another way to make money yet again.
...and you know no-one was in any danger because.......?
Because he wasn't moving, Der.
[quote][p][bold]tbpoole[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]penhalereturns[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rozmister[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]penhalereturns[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rozmister[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]penhalereturns[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rozmister[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Carolyn43[/bold] wrote: Well I hadn't heard of "Home Zones". Is this a national thing or is it something that Bournemouth Council has dreamt up and assumed everyone would know about it?[/p][/quote]Home zones are a national thing, they're meant to meet pedestrian, cycles & cars needs all at once and encourage resident's to slow down and be more aware of their surroundings. Probably a good idea when there's a school on the square![/p][/quote]I cant really see how fining someone for parking for 10 minutes makes it safer for pedestrians and cyclists. Its obviously not a place for everyone to use and enjoy otherwise there would be no fine for using it, but I suppose the council have to make up the financial loss of their camera car.[/p][/quote]He parked in the wrong area (e.g. not in a car parking space) just like a normal road restrictions apply. You can't park anywhere you fancy and then complain that you weren't allowed to use and enjoy the area otherwise everyone would park right outside the shops and block access for other drivers! Have you visited st james' square to actually know what the area looks like? It's got no raised kerbs, wide pavements and a playground in the middle, it definitely does what a Home Zone is meant to do which is make it easy for everyone to travel around the area rather than just cars![/p][/quote]He was causing no danger to anyone. I personally welcome the governments ruling on cctv cars and the added suggestion that they are introducing a new right to allow local residents and local firms to demand a review of parking in their area, including charges and the use of yellow lines, parking fines and restrictions have become way out of kilter along with the excuse that its all done for safety, £35 for ten minutes it took to pick up his grand daughter, has anyone thought about the safety of his grand daughter had he not been there in time, simple revenue raising , end of.[/p][/quote]The local residents in this area lobbied for years to have the area turned into a Home Zone so I don't think any changes allowing them to demand a review are relevant here. It took the residents years of pestering the council to get it changed to the current set up!! His grand daughter would have been perfectly safe if he wasn't there, schools don't just turf all the primary school aged children out onto the pavement at the end of the day!! Trying to make out his daughter wouldn't be safe in the care of the teachers and school staff who look after her for the rest of the day is drama for the sake of it.[/p][/quote]This whole issue is a drama, fined £35 for parking for 10 minutes with the pretence of a breach of safety, don't make me laugh, nanny state etc, fine out of proportion, no one was in any danger, just another way to make money yet again.[/p][/quote]...and you know no-one was in any danger because.......?[/p][/quote]Because he wasn't moving, Der. penhalereturns
  • Score: 0

9:38am Tue 26 Aug 14

penhalereturns says...

rozmister wrote:
penhalereturns wrote:
rozmister wrote:
penhalereturns wrote:
rozmister wrote:
penhalereturns wrote:
rozmister wrote:
Carolyn43 wrote:
Well I hadn't heard of "Home Zones". Is this a national thing or is it something that Bournemouth Council has dreamt up and assumed everyone would know about it?
Home zones are a national thing, they're meant to meet pedestrian, cycles & cars needs all at once and encourage resident's to slow down and be more aware of their surroundings. Probably a good idea when there's a school on the square!
I cant really see how fining someone for parking for 10 minutes makes it safer for pedestrians and cyclists.
Its obviously not a place for everyone to use and enjoy otherwise there would be no fine for using it, but I suppose the council have to make up the financial loss of their camera car.
He parked in the wrong area (e.g. not in a car parking space) just like a normal road restrictions apply. You can't park anywhere you fancy and then complain that you weren't allowed to use and enjoy the area otherwise everyone would park right outside the shops and block access for other drivers!

Have you visited st james' square to actually know what the area looks like? It's got no raised kerbs, wide pavements and a playground in the middle, it definitely does what a Home Zone is meant to do which is make it easy for everyone to travel around the area rather than just cars!
He was causing no danger to anyone.
I personally welcome the governments ruling on cctv cars and the added suggestion that they are introducing a new right to allow local residents and local firms to demand a review of parking in their area, including charges and the use of yellow lines, parking fines and restrictions have become way out of kilter along with the excuse that its all done for safety, £35 for ten minutes it took to pick up his grand daughter, has anyone thought about the safety of his grand daughter had he not been there in time, simple revenue raising , end of.
The local residents in this area lobbied for years to have the area turned into a Home Zone so I don't think any changes allowing them to demand a review are relevant here. It took the residents years of pestering the council to get it changed to the current set up!!

His grand daughter would have been perfectly safe if he wasn't there, schools don't just turf all the primary school aged children out onto the pavement at the end of the day!! Trying to make out his daughter wouldn't be safe in the care of the teachers and school staff who look after her for the rest of the day is drama for the sake of it.
This whole issue is a drama, fined £35 for parking for 10 minutes with the pretence of a breach of safety, don't make me laugh, nanny state etc, fine out of proportion, no one was in any danger, just another way to make money yet again.
If everyone parked wherever they liked the roads would be less safe, that's a fact. Cars parked everywhere means the view is obstructed for drivers, if a child runs out from behind a car that shouldn't be parked in that spot it's dangerous.

If people don't want to be fined park in the allocated spaces, it's really quite simple. Everyone else manages to follow the rules of the road and not get tickets. You make a CHOICE that leads to a fine and your money ending up in the Council's pockets.
If this, If that, so many ifs but no certainty. lets stop everyone from doing everything just is case of the if that may happen.
[quote][p][bold]rozmister[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]penhalereturns[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rozmister[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]penhalereturns[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rozmister[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]penhalereturns[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rozmister[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Carolyn43[/bold] wrote: Well I hadn't heard of "Home Zones". Is this a national thing or is it something that Bournemouth Council has dreamt up and assumed everyone would know about it?[/p][/quote]Home zones are a national thing, they're meant to meet pedestrian, cycles & cars needs all at once and encourage resident's to slow down and be more aware of their surroundings. Probably a good idea when there's a school on the square![/p][/quote]I cant really see how fining someone for parking for 10 minutes makes it safer for pedestrians and cyclists. Its obviously not a place for everyone to use and enjoy otherwise there would be no fine for using it, but I suppose the council have to make up the financial loss of their camera car.[/p][/quote]He parked in the wrong area (e.g. not in a car parking space) just like a normal road restrictions apply. You can't park anywhere you fancy and then complain that you weren't allowed to use and enjoy the area otherwise everyone would park right outside the shops and block access for other drivers! Have you visited st james' square to actually know what the area looks like? It's got no raised kerbs, wide pavements and a playground in the middle, it definitely does what a Home Zone is meant to do which is make it easy for everyone to travel around the area rather than just cars![/p][/quote]He was causing no danger to anyone. I personally welcome the governments ruling on cctv cars and the added suggestion that they are introducing a new right to allow local residents and local firms to demand a review of parking in their area, including charges and the use of yellow lines, parking fines and restrictions have become way out of kilter along with the excuse that its all done for safety, £35 for ten minutes it took to pick up his grand daughter, has anyone thought about the safety of his grand daughter had he not been there in time, simple revenue raising , end of.[/p][/quote]The local residents in this area lobbied for years to have the area turned into a Home Zone so I don't think any changes allowing them to demand a review are relevant here. It took the residents years of pestering the council to get it changed to the current set up!! His grand daughter would have been perfectly safe if he wasn't there, schools don't just turf all the primary school aged children out onto the pavement at the end of the day!! Trying to make out his daughter wouldn't be safe in the care of the teachers and school staff who look after her for the rest of the day is drama for the sake of it.[/p][/quote]This whole issue is a drama, fined £35 for parking for 10 minutes with the pretence of a breach of safety, don't make me laugh, nanny state etc, fine out of proportion, no one was in any danger, just another way to make money yet again.[/p][/quote]If everyone parked wherever they liked the roads would be less safe, that's a fact. Cars parked everywhere means the view is obstructed for drivers, if a child runs out from behind a car that shouldn't be parked in that spot it's dangerous. If people don't want to be fined park in the allocated spaces, it's really quite simple. Everyone else manages to follow the rules of the road and not get tickets. You make a CHOICE that leads to a fine and your money ending up in the Council's pockets.[/p][/quote]If this, If that, so many ifs but no certainty. lets stop everyone from doing everything just is case of the if that may happen. penhalereturns
  • Score: 0

7:36pm Tue 26 Aug 14

kinsonjim says...

Camera Cars?? Where were they last Saturday evening when two police cars were parked in the middle of the pavement right outside the official half full car park outside the Winton police station????.
Camera Cars?? Where were they last Saturday evening when two police cars were parked in the middle of the pavement right outside the official half full car park outside the Winton police station????. kinsonjim
  • Score: 0

7:53pm Tue 26 Aug 14

retry69 says...

kinsonjim wrote:
Camera Cars?? Where were they last Saturday evening when two police cars were parked in the middle of the pavement right outside the official half full car park outside the Winton police station????.
Answers on a postcard please to kinsonjim pfffffffffft :)
[quote][p][bold]kinsonjim[/bold] wrote: Camera Cars?? Where were they last Saturday evening when two police cars were parked in the middle of the pavement right outside the official half full car park outside the Winton police station????.[/p][/quote]Answers on a postcard please to kinsonjim pfffffffffft :) retry69
  • Score: 0

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