End of the road for New Forest cycling scheme

End of the road for New Forest cycling scheme

End of the road for New Forest cycling scheme

First published in News

TO some it was a scheme doomed to failure by financial concerns – but for others it was a chance to show the world what can be done.

Anger and disappointment greeted the New Forest National Park Authority’s decision to throw out the controversial public bike scheme.

There were suggestions that the project might have become an albatross around the neck of the authority, but committee member David Harrison feels it could have shown national parks across Europe what can be done.

There had already been interest in the scheme from national park bosses in the Canary Islands, the Alps, Madrid and Paris.

Members of the authority voted 12 to two against the £2 million plans, which would have seen 250 bikes made available for hire around the Forest.

Against a quiet, rural and leafy backdrop of the Forest the debate has been fierce, and shows no sign of slowing despite the final decision.

And Mr Harrison feels that an opportunity has been missed to put the New Forest on a global stage.

He cites glamorous national parks such as Fontainebleau, near Paris, as areas that would have had their eye on Hampshire had the scheme gone ahead.

He said: “This was the first national park being asked to trial this and find out whether it would work from a financial point of view and whether there were problems associated with it.

“I believe it would have been very successful and that it would have had important consequences, not just for the New Forest but for the national park in this country and abroad.

“There are not many examples of rural bike-hire schemes anywhere else in the world and we have got major problems with traffic congestion.

“There’s a lot of learning that goes on between national parks.

The concept of the bike-share scheme came to life after the Department for Transport awarded the national park authority £3.57 million in funding to support family cycling.

Plans were drawn up to provide bikes at 20 locations, with initial research showing that 11 out of 12 businesses were positive about the proposals.

Following the scheme being refused, the money remains unspent, despite the Government saying it must be used by March 31, 2015.

And Mr Harrison is concerned that with this deadline only eight months away, it may not see the light of day at all.

He said: “Part of the answer is public transport and I would like to see a park and ride scheme and things that do very little environmental harm.

“It’s very hard to see how this particular project could go ahead, however if there’s any possibility I would be delighted.”

Some members who voted against the scheme cited growing anti-cycling sentiment in the national park.

A community feedback report carried out by the national park authority showed that those surveyed viewed the potential scheme as more beneficial to visitors than businesses or residents.

Support for the scheme was highest outside the New Forest, with Brockenhurst and Lyndhurst responders being the least enthusiastic and other New Forest parishes in between the two.

But residents of Brockenhurst and Lyndhurst suggested that the money could be better spent on the existing infrastructure and voiced concerns over the number of cyclists in the Forest and road safety.

Other New Forest residents said they were worried about how the scheme would work in a rural area and the impact it might have on local businesses.

Speaking after the decision, national park authority chairman Oliver Crosthwaite-Eyre said: “This would have been an innovative project that had clear benefits to offer those wishing to use bicycles for recreation and travelling around the Forest, rather than using their cars.

“However as members we have scrutinised it very carefully and concluded that the risks of setting up the scheme now outweigh the benefits.

‘Alternative’ “We felt we could simply not justify spending a considerable amount of Government money on a system that might not be able to survive at this time, and which seems to have insufficient support in the key locations of the Forest where it needs to operate from.”

Suggestions for bike hire points from Brockenhurst and Lyndhurst residents included Lyndhurst car park, Brockenhurst Railway Station and Brockenhurst village hall.

Residents of other New Forest parishes suggested locations including Exbury Gardens, the national park authority’s offices, Hythe Ferry, and the Turfcutters pub in East Boldre.

Andrew Pope, Labour prospective candidate for New Forest East, was unimpressed with the committee’s decision.

He said: “I think that they should be trying harder and encouraging cycling in the New Forest, and this is an example of where they are just retracting back into their shells.

“There are things that could have been done and there still are things that could be done. They need to come up with an alternative.

“Next time we ask for a grant they are going to say ‘no’ because we didn’t spend it as we said we would. It’s embarrassing the New Forest nationally.

“I would like to see some new ideas and innovation to bring new people to the national park and make it more accessible for younger people, but also other people who might go there for different reasons.”

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5:20pm Sun 24 Aug 14

Avengerboy says...

Great idea scuppered by true Nimby culture at its best.
Great idea scuppered by true Nimby culture at its best. Avengerboy
  • Score: 1

7:39pm Sun 24 Aug 14

apm1954 says...

bunch of six fingered forest dwellers.
bunch of six fingered forest dwellers. apm1954
  • Score: 0

9:41pm Sun 24 Aug 14

twynham says...

Love the idea of a bike hire point at the Turfcutters!
Love the idea of a bike hire point at the Turfcutters! twynham
  • Score: 2

9:54pm Sun 24 Aug 14

Ayles 10 says...

Excellent news!
Excellent news! Ayles 10
  • Score: 4

10:14pm Sun 24 Aug 14

breamoreboy says...

Clearly the people trying to set this up don't know much about the British character. Hopefully the next time they'll use larger, heavier brown envelopes.
Clearly the people trying to set this up don't know much about the British character. Hopefully the next time they'll use larger, heavier brown envelopes. breamoreboy
  • Score: 0

10:20pm Sun 24 Aug 14

forest-dweller says...

Avengerboy wrote:
Great idea scuppered by true Nimby culture at its best.
If it is such a great idea, then I am sure some enterprising person will set it up.
[quote][p][bold]Avengerboy[/bold] wrote: Great idea scuppered by true Nimby culture at its best.[/p][/quote]If it is such a great idea, then I am sure some enterprising person will set it up. forest-dweller
  • Score: 2

10:59pm Sun 24 Aug 14

penhalereturns says...

Avengerboy wrote:
Great idea scuppered by true Nimby culture at its best.
Easy for you to say when you don't have to put up with this scheme.

Mr Harrison says.
“There are not many examples of rural bike-hire schemes anywhere else in the world and we have got major problems with traffic congestion.
.
Probably because no one else wants them either.
Thumbs down all you like I don't give a dam, common sense prevails at last, keep the Lycra clad morons out of the forest.
[quote][p][bold]Avengerboy[/bold] wrote: Great idea scuppered by true Nimby culture at its best.[/p][/quote]Easy for you to say when you don't have to put up with this scheme. Mr Harrison says. “There are not many examples of rural bike-hire schemes anywhere else in the world and we have got major problems with traffic congestion. . Probably because no one else wants them either. Thumbs down all you like I don't give a dam, common sense prevails at last, keep the Lycra clad morons out of the forest. penhalereturns
  • Score: -1

11:08pm Sun 24 Aug 14

ragj195 says...

penhalereturns wrote:
Avengerboy wrote:
Great idea scuppered by true Nimby culture at its best.
Easy for you to say when you don't have to put up with this scheme.

Mr Harrison says.
“There are not many examples of rural bike-hire schemes anywhere else in the world and we have got major problems with traffic congestion.
.
Probably because no one else wants them either.
Thumbs down all you like I don't give a dam, common sense prevails at last, keep the Lycra clad morons out of the forest.
Do you really think anyone that wears lycra will be hiring a bike? You clearly don't understand anything about this scheme or the type of people they're marketing it at. If anything it's aimed at just about everyone except the "lycra clad morons".

Just out of interest, why are people who are trying to stay fit and healthy by cycling while also raising money for various charities "morons"?
[quote][p][bold]penhalereturns[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Avengerboy[/bold] wrote: Great idea scuppered by true Nimby culture at its best.[/p][/quote]Easy for you to say when you don't have to put up with this scheme. Mr Harrison says. “There are not many examples of rural bike-hire schemes anywhere else in the world and we have got major problems with traffic congestion. . Probably because no one else wants them either. Thumbs down all you like I don't give a dam, common sense prevails at last, keep the Lycra clad morons out of the forest.[/p][/quote]Do you really think anyone that wears lycra will be hiring a bike? You clearly don't understand anything about this scheme or the type of people they're marketing it at. If anything it's aimed at just about everyone except the "lycra clad morons". Just out of interest, why are people who are trying to stay fit and healthy by cycling while also raising money for various charities "morons"? ragj195
  • Score: 0

11:23pm Sun 24 Aug 14

Sammyy1991 says...

ragj195 wrote:
penhalereturns wrote:
Avengerboy wrote:
Great idea scuppered by true Nimby culture at its best.
Easy for you to say when you don't have to put up with this scheme.

Mr Harrison says.
“There are not many examples of rural bike-hire schemes anywhere else in the world and we have got major problems with traffic congestion.
.
Probably because no one else wants them either.
Thumbs down all you like I don't give a dam, common sense prevails at last, keep the Lycra clad morons out of the forest.
Do you really think anyone that wears lycra will be hiring a bike? You clearly don't understand anything about this scheme or the type of people they're marketing it at. If anything it's aimed at just about everyone except the "lycra clad morons".

Just out of interest, why are people who are trying to stay fit and healthy by cycling while also raising money for various charities "morons"?
God, why are you forest people so against it. You don't seem to give a **** about people to come to visit the beautiful place you live in and showing it off. This gives a unique experience visiting the forest something that could keep people coming back. This is excellent for your local economy. You people really frustrate me.so selfish and self centred. Let everyone enjoy the space be that cycling or not. Get over yourselves. Sorry on one now
[quote][p][bold]ragj195[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]penhalereturns[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Avengerboy[/bold] wrote: Great idea scuppered by true Nimby culture at its best.[/p][/quote]Easy for you to say when you don't have to put up with this scheme. Mr Harrison says. “There are not many examples of rural bike-hire schemes anywhere else in the world and we have got major problems with traffic congestion. . Probably because no one else wants them either. Thumbs down all you like I don't give a dam, common sense prevails at last, keep the Lycra clad morons out of the forest.[/p][/quote]Do you really think anyone that wears lycra will be hiring a bike? You clearly don't understand anything about this scheme or the type of people they're marketing it at. If anything it's aimed at just about everyone except the "lycra clad morons". Just out of interest, why are people who are trying to stay fit and healthy by cycling while also raising money for various charities "morons"?[/p][/quote]God, why are you forest people so against it. You don't seem to give a **** about people to come to visit the beautiful place you live in and showing it off. This gives a unique experience visiting the forest something that could keep people coming back. This is excellent for your local economy. You people really frustrate me.so selfish and self centred. Let everyone enjoy the space be that cycling or not. Get over yourselves. Sorry on one now Sammyy1991
  • Score: -6

11:58pm Sun 24 Aug 14

ragj195 says...

Sammyy1991 wrote:
ragj195 wrote:
penhalereturns wrote:
Avengerboy wrote:
Great idea scuppered by true Nimby culture at its best.
Easy for you to say when you don't have to put up with this scheme.

Mr Harrison says.
“There are not many examples of rural bike-hire schemes anywhere else in the world and we have got major problems with traffic congestion.
.
Probably because no one else wants them either.
Thumbs down all you like I don't give a dam, common sense prevails at last, keep the Lycra clad morons out of the forest.
Do you really think anyone that wears lycra will be hiring a bike? You clearly don't understand anything about this scheme or the type of people they're marketing it at. If anything it's aimed at just about everyone except the "lycra clad morons".

Just out of interest, why are people who are trying to stay fit and healthy by cycling while also raising money for various charities "morons"?
God, why are you forest people so against it. You don't seem to give a **** about people to come to visit the beautiful place you live in and showing it off. This gives a unique experience visiting the forest something that could keep people coming back. This is excellent for your local economy. You people really frustrate me.so selfish and self centred. Let everyone enjoy the space be that cycling or not. Get over yourselves. Sorry on one now
It's not just forest people Sammy. Penhales comment proves that some people are ignorant enough to be so anti-cyclist that even the thought of a family hiring a bunch of bikes to cycle for a couple of hours on the forest cycle tracks, causes them to spit venom!
[quote][p][bold]Sammyy1991[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ragj195[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]penhalereturns[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Avengerboy[/bold] wrote: Great idea scuppered by true Nimby culture at its best.[/p][/quote]Easy for you to say when you don't have to put up with this scheme. Mr Harrison says. “There are not many examples of rural bike-hire schemes anywhere else in the world and we have got major problems with traffic congestion. . Probably because no one else wants them either. Thumbs down all you like I don't give a dam, common sense prevails at last, keep the Lycra clad morons out of the forest.[/p][/quote]Do you really think anyone that wears lycra will be hiring a bike? You clearly don't understand anything about this scheme or the type of people they're marketing it at. If anything it's aimed at just about everyone except the "lycra clad morons". Just out of interest, why are people who are trying to stay fit and healthy by cycling while also raising money for various charities "morons"?[/p][/quote]God, why are you forest people so against it. You don't seem to give a **** about people to come to visit the beautiful place you live in and showing it off. This gives a unique experience visiting the forest something that could keep people coming back. This is excellent for your local economy. You people really frustrate me.so selfish and self centred. Let everyone enjoy the space be that cycling or not. Get over yourselves. Sorry on one now[/p][/quote]It's not just forest people Sammy. Penhales comment proves that some people are ignorant enough to be so anti-cyclist that even the thought of a family hiring a bunch of bikes to cycle for a couple of hours on the forest cycle tracks, causes them to spit venom! ragj195
  • Score: 3

9:54am Mon 25 Aug 14

penhalereturns says...

ragj195 wrote:
Sammyy1991 wrote:
ragj195 wrote:
penhalereturns wrote:
Avengerboy wrote:
Great idea scuppered by true Nimby culture at its best.
Easy for you to say when you don't have to put up with this scheme.

Mr Harrison says.
“There are not many examples of rural bike-hire schemes anywhere else in the world and we have got major problems with traffic congestion.
.
Probably because no one else wants them either.
Thumbs down all you like I don't give a dam, common sense prevails at last, keep the Lycra clad morons out of the forest.
Do you really think anyone that wears lycra will be hiring a bike? You clearly don't understand anything about this scheme or the type of people they're marketing it at. If anything it's aimed at just about everyone except the "lycra clad morons".

Just out of interest, why are people who are trying to stay fit and healthy by cycling while also raising money for various charities "morons"?
God, why are you forest people so against it. You don't seem to give a **** about people to come to visit the beautiful place you live in and showing it off. This gives a unique experience visiting the forest something that could keep people coming back. This is excellent for your local economy. You people really frustrate me.so selfish and self centred. Let everyone enjoy the space be that cycling or not. Get over yourselves. Sorry on one now
It's not just forest people Sammy. Penhales comment proves that some people are ignorant enough to be so anti-cyclist that even the thought of a family hiring a bunch of bikes to cycle for a couple of hours on the forest cycle tracks, causes them to spit venom!
Not a case of anti cyclist, more a case of anti idiot cyclists who think that as soon as their two wheels touch the road everyone else should bow down to them, riding two or three abreast, running red lights, cycling against the traffic in cycle lanes, I do take back my comment about lycra clad morons and replace it with simply cycling morons .
[quote][p][bold]ragj195[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sammyy1991[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ragj195[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]penhalereturns[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Avengerboy[/bold] wrote: Great idea scuppered by true Nimby culture at its best.[/p][/quote]Easy for you to say when you don't have to put up with this scheme. Mr Harrison says. “There are not many examples of rural bike-hire schemes anywhere else in the world and we have got major problems with traffic congestion. . Probably because no one else wants them either. Thumbs down all you like I don't give a dam, common sense prevails at last, keep the Lycra clad morons out of the forest.[/p][/quote]Do you really think anyone that wears lycra will be hiring a bike? You clearly don't understand anything about this scheme or the type of people they're marketing it at. If anything it's aimed at just about everyone except the "lycra clad morons". Just out of interest, why are people who are trying to stay fit and healthy by cycling while also raising money for various charities "morons"?[/p][/quote]God, why are you forest people so against it. You don't seem to give a **** about people to come to visit the beautiful place you live in and showing it off. This gives a unique experience visiting the forest something that could keep people coming back. This is excellent for your local economy. You people really frustrate me.so selfish and self centred. Let everyone enjoy the space be that cycling or not. Get over yourselves. Sorry on one now[/p][/quote]It's not just forest people Sammy. Penhales comment proves that some people are ignorant enough to be so anti-cyclist that even the thought of a family hiring a bunch of bikes to cycle for a couple of hours on the forest cycle tracks, causes them to spit venom![/p][/quote]Not a case of anti cyclist, more a case of anti idiot cyclists who think that as soon as their two wheels touch the road everyone else should bow down to them, riding two or three abreast, running red lights, cycling against the traffic in cycle lanes, I do take back my comment about lycra clad morons and replace it with simply cycling morons . penhalereturns
  • Score: 2

11:56am Mon 25 Aug 14

Hessenford says...

ragj195 wrote:
Sammyy1991 wrote:
ragj195 wrote:
penhalereturns wrote:
Avengerboy wrote:
Great idea scuppered by true Nimby culture at its best.
Easy for you to say when you don't have to put up with this scheme.

Mr Harrison says.
“There are not many examples of rural bike-hire schemes anywhere else in the world and we have got major problems with traffic congestion.
.
Probably because no one else wants them either.
Thumbs down all you like I don't give a dam, common sense prevails at last, keep the Lycra clad morons out of the forest.
Do you really think anyone that wears lycra will be hiring a bike? You clearly don't understand anything about this scheme or the type of people they're marketing it at. If anything it's aimed at just about everyone except the "lycra clad morons".

Just out of interest, why are people who are trying to stay fit and healthy by cycling while also raising money for various charities "morons"?
God, why are you forest people so against it. You don't seem to give a **** about people to come to visit the beautiful place you live in and showing it off. This gives a unique experience visiting the forest something that could keep people coming back. This is excellent for your local economy. You people really frustrate me.so selfish and self centred. Let everyone enjoy the space be that cycling or not. Get over yourselves. Sorry on one now
It's not just forest people Sammy. Penhales comment proves that some people are ignorant enough to be so anti-cyclist that even the thought of a family hiring a bunch of bikes to cycle for a couple of hours on the forest cycle tracks, causes them to spit venom!
So because some one disagrees with your view they are ignorant are they, I think you may find that you are ignorant of other peoples differing views.
[quote][p][bold]ragj195[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sammyy1991[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ragj195[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]penhalereturns[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Avengerboy[/bold] wrote: Great idea scuppered by true Nimby culture at its best.[/p][/quote]Easy for you to say when you don't have to put up with this scheme. Mr Harrison says. “There are not many examples of rural bike-hire schemes anywhere else in the world and we have got major problems with traffic congestion. . Probably because no one else wants them either. Thumbs down all you like I don't give a dam, common sense prevails at last, keep the Lycra clad morons out of the forest.[/p][/quote]Do you really think anyone that wears lycra will be hiring a bike? You clearly don't understand anything about this scheme or the type of people they're marketing it at. If anything it's aimed at just about everyone except the "lycra clad morons". Just out of interest, why are people who are trying to stay fit and healthy by cycling while also raising money for various charities "morons"?[/p][/quote]God, why are you forest people so against it. You don't seem to give a **** about people to come to visit the beautiful place you live in and showing it off. This gives a unique experience visiting the forest something that could keep people coming back. This is excellent for your local economy. You people really frustrate me.so selfish and self centred. Let everyone enjoy the space be that cycling or not. Get over yourselves. Sorry on one now[/p][/quote]It's not just forest people Sammy. Penhales comment proves that some people are ignorant enough to be so anti-cyclist that even the thought of a family hiring a bunch of bikes to cycle for a couple of hours on the forest cycle tracks, causes them to spit venom![/p][/quote]So because some one disagrees with your view they are ignorant are they, I think you may find that you are ignorant of other peoples differing views. Hessenford
  • Score: 2

12:23pm Mon 25 Aug 14

ragj195 says...

Hessenford wrote:
ragj195 wrote:
Sammyy1991 wrote:
ragj195 wrote:
penhalereturns wrote:
Avengerboy wrote:
Great idea scuppered by true Nimby culture at its best.
Easy for you to say when you don't have to put up with this scheme.

Mr Harrison says.
“There are not many examples of rural bike-hire schemes anywhere else in the world and we have got major problems with traffic congestion.
.
Probably because no one else wants them either.
Thumbs down all you like I don't give a dam, common sense prevails at last, keep the Lycra clad morons out of the forest.
Do you really think anyone that wears lycra will be hiring a bike? You clearly don't understand anything about this scheme or the type of people they're marketing it at. If anything it's aimed at just about everyone except the "lycra clad morons".

Just out of interest, why are people who are trying to stay fit and healthy by cycling while also raising money for various charities "morons"?
God, why are you forest people so against it. You don't seem to give a **** about people to come to visit the beautiful place you live in and showing it off. This gives a unique experience visiting the forest something that could keep people coming back. This is excellent for your local economy. You people really frustrate me.so selfish and self centred. Let everyone enjoy the space be that cycling or not. Get over yourselves. Sorry on one now
It's not just forest people Sammy. Penhales comment proves that some people are ignorant enough to be so anti-cyclist that even the thought of a family hiring a bunch of bikes to cycle for a couple of hours on the forest cycle tracks, causes them to spit venom!
So because some one disagrees with your view they are ignorant are they, I think you may find that you are ignorant of other peoples differing views.
Calling someone you don't know a "moron" based on the clothing they wear and their mode of transport is ignorant. Moron refers to someone's mental ability which judging by the comment is probably a more suitable term for penhale.
[quote][p][bold]Hessenford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ragj195[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sammyy1991[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ragj195[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]penhalereturns[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Avengerboy[/bold] wrote: Great idea scuppered by true Nimby culture at its best.[/p][/quote]Easy for you to say when you don't have to put up with this scheme. Mr Harrison says. “There are not many examples of rural bike-hire schemes anywhere else in the world and we have got major problems with traffic congestion. . Probably because no one else wants them either. Thumbs down all you like I don't give a dam, common sense prevails at last, keep the Lycra clad morons out of the forest.[/p][/quote]Do you really think anyone that wears lycra will be hiring a bike? You clearly don't understand anything about this scheme or the type of people they're marketing it at. If anything it's aimed at just about everyone except the "lycra clad morons". Just out of interest, why are people who are trying to stay fit and healthy by cycling while also raising money for various charities "morons"?[/p][/quote]God, why are you forest people so against it. You don't seem to give a **** about people to come to visit the beautiful place you live in and showing it off. This gives a unique experience visiting the forest something that could keep people coming back. This is excellent for your local economy. You people really frustrate me.so selfish and self centred. Let everyone enjoy the space be that cycling or not. Get over yourselves. Sorry on one now[/p][/quote]It's not just forest people Sammy. Penhales comment proves that some people are ignorant enough to be so anti-cyclist that even the thought of a family hiring a bunch of bikes to cycle for a couple of hours on the forest cycle tracks, causes them to spit venom![/p][/quote]So because some one disagrees with your view they are ignorant are they, I think you may find that you are ignorant of other peoples differing views.[/p][/quote]Calling someone you don't know a "moron" based on the clothing they wear and their mode of transport is ignorant. Moron refers to someone's mental ability which judging by the comment is probably a more suitable term for penhale. ragj195
  • Score: 1

12:25pm Mon 25 Aug 14

ragj195 says...

penhalereturns wrote:
ragj195 wrote:
Sammyy1991 wrote:
ragj195 wrote:
penhalereturns wrote:
Avengerboy wrote:
Great idea scuppered by true Nimby culture at its best.
Easy for you to say when you don't have to put up with this scheme.

Mr Harrison says.
“There are not many examples of rural bike-hire schemes anywhere else in the world and we have got major problems with traffic congestion.
.
Probably because no one else wants them either.
Thumbs down all you like I don't give a dam, common sense prevails at last, keep the Lycra clad morons out of the forest.
Do you really think anyone that wears lycra will be hiring a bike? You clearly don't understand anything about this scheme or the type of people they're marketing it at. If anything it's aimed at just about everyone except the "lycra clad morons".

Just out of interest, why are people who are trying to stay fit and healthy by cycling while also raising money for various charities "morons"?
God, why are you forest people so against it. You don't seem to give a **** about people to come to visit the beautiful place you live in and showing it off. This gives a unique experience visiting the forest something that could keep people coming back. This is excellent for your local economy. You people really frustrate me.so selfish and self centred. Let everyone enjoy the space be that cycling or not. Get over yourselves. Sorry on one now
It's not just forest people Sammy. Penhales comment proves that some people are ignorant enough to be so anti-cyclist that even the thought of a family hiring a bunch of bikes to cycle for a couple of hours on the forest cycle tracks, causes them to spit venom!
Not a case of anti cyclist, more a case of anti idiot cyclists who think that as soon as their two wheels touch the road everyone else should bow down to them, riding two or three abreast, running red lights, cycling against the traffic in cycle lanes, I do take back my comment about lycra clad morons and replace it with simply cycling morons .
But if a car parks illegally that's okay right?
[quote][p][bold]penhalereturns[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ragj195[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sammyy1991[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ragj195[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]penhalereturns[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Avengerboy[/bold] wrote: Great idea scuppered by true Nimby culture at its best.[/p][/quote]Easy for you to say when you don't have to put up with this scheme. Mr Harrison says. “There are not many examples of rural bike-hire schemes anywhere else in the world and we have got major problems with traffic congestion. . Probably because no one else wants them either. Thumbs down all you like I don't give a dam, common sense prevails at last, keep the Lycra clad morons out of the forest.[/p][/quote]Do you really think anyone that wears lycra will be hiring a bike? You clearly don't understand anything about this scheme or the type of people they're marketing it at. If anything it's aimed at just about everyone except the "lycra clad morons". Just out of interest, why are people who are trying to stay fit and healthy by cycling while also raising money for various charities "morons"?[/p][/quote]God, why are you forest people so against it. You don't seem to give a **** about people to come to visit the beautiful place you live in and showing it off. This gives a unique experience visiting the forest something that could keep people coming back. This is excellent for your local economy. You people really frustrate me.so selfish and self centred. Let everyone enjoy the space be that cycling or not. Get over yourselves. Sorry on one now[/p][/quote]It's not just forest people Sammy. Penhales comment proves that some people are ignorant enough to be so anti-cyclist that even the thought of a family hiring a bunch of bikes to cycle for a couple of hours on the forest cycle tracks, causes them to spit venom![/p][/quote]Not a case of anti cyclist, more a case of anti idiot cyclists who think that as soon as their two wheels touch the road everyone else should bow down to them, riding two or three abreast, running red lights, cycling against the traffic in cycle lanes, I do take back my comment about lycra clad morons and replace it with simply cycling morons .[/p][/quote]But if a car parks illegally that's okay right? ragj195
  • Score: 0

12:29pm Mon 25 Aug 14

penhalereturns says...

ragj195 wrote:
Sammyy1991 wrote:
ragj195 wrote:
penhalereturns wrote:
Avengerboy wrote:
Great idea scuppered by true Nimby culture at its best.
Easy for you to say when you don't have to put up with this scheme.

Mr Harrison says.
“There are not many examples of rural bike-hire schemes anywhere else in the world and we have got major problems with traffic congestion.
.
Probably because no one else wants them either.
Thumbs down all you like I don't give a dam, common sense prevails at last, keep the Lycra clad morons out of the forest.
Do you really think anyone that wears lycra will be hiring a bike? You clearly don't understand anything about this scheme or the type of people they're marketing it at. If anything it's aimed at just about everyone except the "lycra clad morons".

Just out of interest, why are people who are trying to stay fit and healthy by cycling while also raising money for various charities "morons"?
God, why are you forest people so against it. You don't seem to give a **** about people to come to visit the beautiful place you live in and showing it off. This gives a unique experience visiting the forest something that could keep people coming back. This is excellent for your local economy. You people really frustrate me.so selfish and self centred. Let everyone enjoy the space be that cycling or not. Get over yourselves. Sorry on one now
It's not just forest people Sammy. Penhales comment proves that some people are ignorant enough to be so anti-cyclist that even the thought of a family hiring a bunch of bikes to cycle for a couple of hours on the forest cycle tracks, causes them to spit venom!
My comment proves noting of the kind, ignorance is from those people who have no road sense what so ever and also believe they can take over the whole country on their two wheeled piles of junk ,get a life the decision has been made and I hope other such decisions follow suit, no need for idiots on the roads or in the forest who have had no experience of riding in traffic much less read the highway code.
[quote][p][bold]ragj195[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sammyy1991[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ragj195[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]penhalereturns[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Avengerboy[/bold] wrote: Great idea scuppered by true Nimby culture at its best.[/p][/quote]Easy for you to say when you don't have to put up with this scheme. Mr Harrison says. “There are not many examples of rural bike-hire schemes anywhere else in the world and we have got major problems with traffic congestion. . Probably because no one else wants them either. Thumbs down all you like I don't give a dam, common sense prevails at last, keep the Lycra clad morons out of the forest.[/p][/quote]Do you really think anyone that wears lycra will be hiring a bike? You clearly don't understand anything about this scheme or the type of people they're marketing it at. If anything it's aimed at just about everyone except the "lycra clad morons". Just out of interest, why are people who are trying to stay fit and healthy by cycling while also raising money for various charities "morons"?[/p][/quote]God, why are you forest people so against it. You don't seem to give a **** about people to come to visit the beautiful place you live in and showing it off. This gives a unique experience visiting the forest something that could keep people coming back. This is excellent for your local economy. You people really frustrate me.so selfish and self centred. Let everyone enjoy the space be that cycling or not. Get over yourselves. Sorry on one now[/p][/quote]It's not just forest people Sammy. Penhales comment proves that some people are ignorant enough to be so anti-cyclist that even the thought of a family hiring a bunch of bikes to cycle for a couple of hours on the forest cycle tracks, causes them to spit venom![/p][/quote]My comment proves noting of the kind, ignorance is from those people who have no road sense what so ever and also believe they can take over the whole country on their two wheeled piles of junk ,get a life the decision has been made and I hope other such decisions follow suit, no need for idiots on the roads or in the forest who have had no experience of riding in traffic much less read the highway code. penhalereturns
  • Score: 2

10:00pm Mon 25 Aug 14

ragj195 says...

penhalereturns wrote:
ragj195 wrote:
Sammyy1991 wrote:
ragj195 wrote:
penhalereturns wrote:
Avengerboy wrote:
Great idea scuppered by true Nimby culture at its best.
Easy for you to say when you don't have to put up with this scheme.

Mr Harrison says.
“There are not many examples of rural bike-hire schemes anywhere else in the world and we have got major problems with traffic congestion.
.
Probably because no one else wants them either.
Thumbs down all you like I don't give a dam, common sense prevails at last, keep the Lycra clad morons out of the forest.
Do you really think anyone that wears lycra will be hiring a bike? You clearly don't understand anything about this scheme or the type of people they're marketing it at. If anything it's aimed at just about everyone except the "lycra clad morons".

Just out of interest, why are people who are trying to stay fit and healthy by cycling while also raising money for various charities "morons"?
God, why are you forest people so against it. You don't seem to give a **** about people to come to visit the beautiful place you live in and showing it off. This gives a unique experience visiting the forest something that could keep people coming back. This is excellent for your local economy. You people really frustrate me.so selfish and self centred. Let everyone enjoy the space be that cycling or not. Get over yourselves. Sorry on one now
It's not just forest people Sammy. Penhales comment proves that some people are ignorant enough to be so anti-cyclist that even the thought of a family hiring a bunch of bikes to cycle for a couple of hours on the forest cycle tracks, causes them to spit venom!
My comment proves noting of the kind, ignorance is from those people who have no road sense what so ever and also believe they can take over the whole country on their two wheeled piles of junk ,get a life the decision has been made and I hope other such decisions follow suit, no need for idiots on the roads or in the forest who have had no experience of riding in traffic much less read the highway code.
Sounds like you got ditched by a bike. Get over it.
[quote][p][bold]penhalereturns[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ragj195[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sammyy1991[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ragj195[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]penhalereturns[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Avengerboy[/bold] wrote: Great idea scuppered by true Nimby culture at its best.[/p][/quote]Easy for you to say when you don't have to put up with this scheme. Mr Harrison says. “There are not many examples of rural bike-hire schemes anywhere else in the world and we have got major problems with traffic congestion. . Probably because no one else wants them either. Thumbs down all you like I don't give a dam, common sense prevails at last, keep the Lycra clad morons out of the forest.[/p][/quote]Do you really think anyone that wears lycra will be hiring a bike? You clearly don't understand anything about this scheme or the type of people they're marketing it at. If anything it's aimed at just about everyone except the "lycra clad morons". Just out of interest, why are people who are trying to stay fit and healthy by cycling while also raising money for various charities "morons"?[/p][/quote]God, why are you forest people so against it. You don't seem to give a **** about people to come to visit the beautiful place you live in and showing it off. This gives a unique experience visiting the forest something that could keep people coming back. This is excellent for your local economy. You people really frustrate me.so selfish and self centred. Let everyone enjoy the space be that cycling or not. Get over yourselves. Sorry on one now[/p][/quote]It's not just forest people Sammy. Penhales comment proves that some people are ignorant enough to be so anti-cyclist that even the thought of a family hiring a bunch of bikes to cycle for a couple of hours on the forest cycle tracks, causes them to spit venom![/p][/quote]My comment proves noting of the kind, ignorance is from those people who have no road sense what so ever and also believe they can take over the whole country on their two wheeled piles of junk ,get a life the decision has been made and I hope other such decisions follow suit, no need for idiots on the roads or in the forest who have had no experience of riding in traffic much less read the highway code.[/p][/quote]Sounds like you got ditched by a bike. Get over it. ragj195
  • Score: 1

12:52pm Tue 26 Aug 14

GarrySibbald says...

@penhalereturns you really aren't a very nice person are you!
@penhalereturns you really aren't a very nice person are you! GarrySibbald
  • Score: 0
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