No late opening for bar as councillors seek to “protect Westbourne’s image”

NO LATE OPENING: Eau de Vie, which is being replaced by Camden Bar & Kitchen

NO LATE OPENING: Eau de Vie, which is being replaced by Camden Bar & Kitchen

First published in News by

A BAR and restaurant being launched in Westbourne has been blocked from staying open later.

Owners of Camden Bar and Kitchen, which already has an offering at Poole’s Ashley Cross, had originally wanted to keep their new premises on Seamoor Road, which will replace French restaurant Eau de Vie, open until 2am on Fridays and Saturdays.

After discussions with police it was agreed to reduce this proposal to 1.30am, but at a licensing committee meeting councillors rejected the plan.

The bar will be allowed to stay open and serve alcohol until 1am, but committee chairman Cllr Andrew Morgan, said the business needed to “prove itself” before being permitted to remain open later.

“It is the kind of offering, mainly food led, that we want to see,” he added.

“It was a very well put together application and I would encourage them to apply again in the future.”

Among those questioning the proposal was Westbourne and Westcliff ward councillor Barry Goldbart, who said the decision to allow the bar to stay open and serve alcohol until 1am was a “reasonable compromise”.

He added: “The police had suggested later opening hours, but we, as ward councillors, are very protective of Westbourne.

“It is so important to us to maintain its unique atmosphere.

“There are plenty of places if you want to go out drinking late and it is important to us to protect Westbourne’s image “We need to see how it is run first, but even if they run it very well, if you have started giving later drinking hours, it is difficult to stop the floodgates from opening and other businesses requesting the same.”

Council leader, Cllr John Beesley, also objected, claiming the character of Westbourne would be “severely compromised” by later opening hours.

Applicant Lauren Curley, who prior to the licensing meeting told the Echo Camden was intended to be a “chilled out and pleasant drinking environment”, refused to comment following the decision.

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5:54am Tue 19 Aug 14

Chris@Bmouth says...

To protect the image of charity shops which are always closed.
To protect the image of charity shops which are always closed. Chris@Bmouth
  • Score: -4

7:46am Tue 19 Aug 14

FerryFan says...

Chris@Bmouth wrote:
To protect the image of charity shops which are always closed.
No, to protect the nights sleep of Westbourne residents who live above those closed shops and the surrounding streets. When people come out of a venue they are not going to miraculously disappear, they will be talking, laughing, arguing, shouting and fighting right outside people's homes while most are in bed asleep. Families, elderly early starters having their sleep disrupted. Town centre pubs clubs and bars, the noise continues long after closing time and over a wide radius, but then it is not the responsibility of the venues who have been serving them drink while they were open, once they have left the premises they are no longer responsible. And all the drunks just cause havoc in around town.

Nothing to do with charity shops, you have enough choice of late opening places in and around Bournemouth, in this case what you haven't had you won't miss!!
[quote][p][bold]Chris@Bmouth[/bold] wrote: To protect the image of charity shops which are always closed.[/p][/quote]No, to protect the nights sleep of Westbourne residents who live above those closed shops and the surrounding streets. When people come out of a venue they are not going to miraculously disappear, they will be talking, laughing, arguing, shouting and fighting right outside people's homes while most are in bed asleep. Families, elderly early starters having their sleep disrupted. Town centre pubs clubs and bars, the noise continues long after closing time and over a wide radius, but then it is not the responsibility of the venues who have been serving them drink while they were open, once they have left the premises they are no longer responsible. And all the drunks just cause havoc in around town. Nothing to do with charity shops, you have enough choice of late opening places in and around Bournemouth, in this case what you haven't had you won't miss!! FerryFan
  • Score: 55

8:10am Tue 19 Aug 14

BIGTONE says...

FerryFan says...
in this case what you haven't had you won't miss!


What! Like a sensible Council?
FerryFan says... in this case what you haven't had you won't miss! What! Like a sensible Council? BIGTONE
  • Score: -16

8:20am Tue 19 Aug 14

AFCBScarl says...

FerryFan wrote:
Chris@Bmouth wrote: To protect the image of charity shops which are always closed.
No, to protect the nights sleep of Westbourne residents who live above those closed shops and the surrounding streets. When people come out of a venue they are not going to miraculously disappear, they will be talking, laughing, arguing, shouting and fighting right outside people's homes while most are in bed asleep. Families, elderly early starters having their sleep disrupted. Town centre pubs clubs and bars, the noise continues long after closing time and over a wide radius, but then it is not the responsibility of the venues who have been serving them drink while they were open, once they have left the premises they are no longer responsible. And all the drunks just cause havoc in around town. Nothing to do with charity shops, you have enough choice of late opening places in and around Bournemouth, in this case what you haven't had you won't miss!!
It's comments like this that doesn't give society a chance!! what makes me laugh is I bet you don't even go in to westbourne or live anywhere near it to make a sound decision.
I go in to westbourne to meet friends quite a lot and I have to say even with a 12:30/1:00 licence at the Westbourne pub you never see any violence in the 10years I have been drinking there I think it's safe to say I have seen one fight west Bourne is a nice place and therefore attracts a nicer clientele. So your comments are worthless try going out for a drink in westbourne rather than trolling on your computer.
[quote][p][bold]FerryFan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chris@Bmouth[/bold] wrote: To protect the image of charity shops which are always closed.[/p][/quote]No, to protect the nights sleep of Westbourne residents who live above those closed shops and the surrounding streets. When people come out of a venue they are not going to miraculously disappear, they will be talking, laughing, arguing, shouting and fighting right outside people's homes while most are in bed asleep. Families, elderly early starters having their sleep disrupted. Town centre pubs clubs and bars, the noise continues long after closing time and over a wide radius, but then it is not the responsibility of the venues who have been serving them drink while they were open, once they have left the premises they are no longer responsible. And all the drunks just cause havoc in around town. Nothing to do with charity shops, you have enough choice of late opening places in and around Bournemouth, in this case what you haven't had you won't miss!![/p][/quote]It's comments like this that doesn't give society a chance!! what makes me laugh is I bet you don't even go in to westbourne or live anywhere near it to make a sound decision. I go in to westbourne to meet friends quite a lot and I have to say even with a 12:30/1:00 licence at the Westbourne pub you never see any violence in the 10years I have been drinking there I think it's safe to say I have seen one fight west Bourne is a nice place and therefore attracts a nicer clientele. So your comments are worthless try going out for a drink in westbourne rather than trolling on your computer. AFCBScarl
  • Score: -34

8:24am Tue 19 Aug 14

cheeriedriteup says...

Chris@Bmouth wrote:
To protect the image of charity shops which are always closed.
Of the subject really but the charity shops can afford to be closed, after all -by law - every £1 you give to charity only 20% (20 pence ) by law needs to go to charity, charity shop managers live quite comfortably thank to the generous public !!!
[quote][p][bold]Chris@Bmouth[/bold] wrote: To protect the image of charity shops which are always closed.[/p][/quote]Of the subject really but the charity shops can afford to be closed, after all -by law - every £1 you give to charity only 20% (20 pence ) by law needs to go to charity, charity shop managers live quite comfortably thank to the generous public !!! cheeriedriteup
  • Score: 5

8:26am Tue 19 Aug 14

JemBmth says...

Running out o news again. Almost exactly the same article was in the DE last week. Not worth reading the echo anymore. I just log in to read the comments. Much more interesting apart from this one. Does anyone actually 'buy' the paper these days?
Running out o news again. Almost exactly the same article was in the DE last week. Not worth reading the echo anymore. I just log in to read the comments. Much more interesting apart from this one. Does anyone actually 'buy' the paper these days? JemBmth
  • Score: -4

8:40am Tue 19 Aug 14

cromwell9 says...

There are enough bars /clubs in BMTH/AshleyX etc,.If this planning application was excepted,it would apen the flood gates to others to try it on .
Westborne.Southbourn
e are the only two areas left in BMTH,,where you can shop and live in comfort.Every where else has been reduced to a tatty LONDON suberb..
There are enough bars /clubs in BMTH/AshleyX etc,.If this planning application was excepted,it would apen the flood gates to others to try it on . Westborne.Southbourn e are the only two areas left in BMTH,,where you can shop and live in comfort.Every where else has been reduced to a tatty LONDON suberb.. cromwell9
  • Score: 18

8:42am Tue 19 Aug 14

FerryFan says...

AFCBScarl wrote:
FerryFan wrote:
Chris@Bmouth wrote: To protect the image of charity shops which are always closed.
No, to protect the nights sleep of Westbourne residents who live above those closed shops and the surrounding streets. When people come out of a venue they are not going to miraculously disappear, they will be talking, laughing, arguing, shouting and fighting right outside people's homes while most are in bed asleep. Families, elderly early starters having their sleep disrupted. Town centre pubs clubs and bars, the noise continues long after closing time and over a wide radius, but then it is not the responsibility of the venues who have been serving them drink while they were open, once they have left the premises they are no longer responsible. And all the drunks just cause havoc in around town. Nothing to do with charity shops, you have enough choice of late opening places in and around Bournemouth, in this case what you haven't had you won't miss!!
It's comments like this that doesn't give society a chance!! what makes me laugh is I bet you don't even go in to westbourne or live anywhere near it to make a sound decision.
I go in to westbourne to meet friends quite a lot and I have to say even with a 12:30/1:00 licence at the Westbourne pub you never see any violence in the 10years I have been drinking there I think it's safe to say I have seen one fight west Bourne is a nice place and therefore attracts a nicer clientele. So your comments are worthless try going out for a drink in westbourne rather than trolling on your computer.
I do actually live there.
[quote][p][bold]AFCBScarl[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]FerryFan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chris@Bmouth[/bold] wrote: To protect the image of charity shops which are always closed.[/p][/quote]No, to protect the nights sleep of Westbourne residents who live above those closed shops and the surrounding streets. When people come out of a venue they are not going to miraculously disappear, they will be talking, laughing, arguing, shouting and fighting right outside people's homes while most are in bed asleep. Families, elderly early starters having their sleep disrupted. Town centre pubs clubs and bars, the noise continues long after closing time and over a wide radius, but then it is not the responsibility of the venues who have been serving them drink while they were open, once they have left the premises they are no longer responsible. And all the drunks just cause havoc in around town. Nothing to do with charity shops, you have enough choice of late opening places in and around Bournemouth, in this case what you haven't had you won't miss!![/p][/quote]It's comments like this that doesn't give society a chance!! what makes me laugh is I bet you don't even go in to westbourne or live anywhere near it to make a sound decision. I go in to westbourne to meet friends quite a lot and I have to say even with a 12:30/1:00 licence at the Westbourne pub you never see any violence in the 10years I have been drinking there I think it's safe to say I have seen one fight west Bourne is a nice place and therefore attracts a nicer clientele. So your comments are worthless try going out for a drink in westbourne rather than trolling on your computer.[/p][/quote]I do actually live there. FerryFan
  • Score: 31

8:55am Tue 19 Aug 14

West Howe Sean says...

cromwell9 wrote:
There are enough bars /clubs in BMTH/AshleyX etc,.If this planning application was excepted,it would apen the flood gates to others to try it on .
Westborne.Southbourn

e are the only two areas left in BMTH,,where you can shop and live in comfort.Every where else has been reduced to a tatty LONDON suberb..
So someone trying to open up a new business in Westbourne is "trying it on" are they?

What a ridiculous left wing, anti business attitude, go and live in Russia
[quote][p][bold]cromwell9[/bold] wrote: There are enough bars /clubs in BMTH/AshleyX etc,.If this planning application was excepted,it would apen the flood gates to others to try it on . Westborne.Southbourn e are the only two areas left in BMTH,,where you can shop and live in comfort.Every where else has been reduced to a tatty LONDON suberb..[/p][/quote]So someone trying to open up a new business in Westbourne is "trying it on" are they? What a ridiculous left wing, anti business attitude, go and live in Russia West Howe Sean
  • Score: -26

9:14am Tue 19 Aug 14

MrPitiful says...

They have agreed a 1am licence.

Once a few councillors have paid a visit, been fed and watered F.O.C. it will soon be a 2am licence.

Dunno why they bother.
They have agreed a 1am licence. Once a few councillors have paid a visit, been fed and watered F.O.C. it will soon be a 2am licence. Dunno why they bother. MrPitiful
  • Score: -5

9:21am Tue 19 Aug 14

nothingtofear says...

West Howe Sean wrote:
cromwell9 wrote:
There are enough bars /clubs in BMTH/AshleyX etc,.If this planning application was excepted,it would apen the flood gates to others to try it on .
Westborne.Southbourn


e are the only two areas left in BMTH,,where you can shop and live in comfort.Every where else has been reduced to a tatty LONDON suberb..
So someone trying to open up a new business in Westbourne is "trying it on" are they?

What a ridiculous left wing, anti business attitude, go and live in Russia
Ha Ha Ha. Bet that's the first time that Cromwell9 has ever been called left wing.
[quote][p][bold]West Howe Sean[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cromwell9[/bold] wrote: There are enough bars /clubs in BMTH/AshleyX etc,.If this planning application was excepted,it would apen the flood gates to others to try it on . Westborne.Southbourn e are the only two areas left in BMTH,,where you can shop and live in comfort.Every where else has been reduced to a tatty LONDON suberb..[/p][/quote]So someone trying to open up a new business in Westbourne is "trying it on" are they? What a ridiculous left wing, anti business attitude, go and live in Russia[/p][/quote]Ha Ha Ha. Bet that's the first time that Cromwell9 has ever been called left wing. nothingtofear
  • Score: 5

9:43am Tue 19 Aug 14

cromwell9 says...

nothingtofear wrote:
West Howe Sean wrote:
cromwell9 wrote:
There are enough bars /clubs in BMTH/AshleyX etc,.If this planning application was excepted,it would apen the flood gates to others to try it on .
Westborne.Southbourn



e are the only two areas left in BMTH,,where you can shop and live in comfort.Every where else has been reduced to a tatty LONDON suberb..
So someone trying to open up a new business in Westbourne is "trying it on" are they?

What a ridiculous left wing, anti business attitude, go and live in Russia
Ha Ha Ha. Bet that's the first time that Cromwell9 has ever been called left wing.
This comment has made my day.Me left wing .
I think I have spotted a Red flag somewhere flying over West Howe..
[quote][p][bold]nothingtofear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]West Howe Sean[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cromwell9[/bold] wrote: There are enough bars /clubs in BMTH/AshleyX etc,.If this planning application was excepted,it would apen the flood gates to others to try it on . Westborne.Southbourn e are the only two areas left in BMTH,,where you can shop and live in comfort.Every where else has been reduced to a tatty LONDON suberb..[/p][/quote]So someone trying to open up a new business in Westbourne is "trying it on" are they? What a ridiculous left wing, anti business attitude, go and live in Russia[/p][/quote]Ha Ha Ha. Bet that's the first time that Cromwell9 has ever been called left wing.[/p][/quote]This comment has made my day.Me left wing . I think I have spotted a Red flag somewhere flying over West Howe.. cromwell9
  • Score: 2

10:29am Tue 19 Aug 14

Redgolfer says...

MrPitiful wrote:
They have agreed a 1am licence.

Once a few councillors have paid a visit, been fed and watered F.O.C. it will soon be a 2am licence.

Dunno why they bother.
Councillors out at that time of the morning, you have got to be JOKING, they have not got a clue what is going on and PLEASE do not forget BEESLEY OBJECTED to it, so that's it 1AM as at present, with the business running properly and without fuss.
PS BEESLEY is spellt like that in the piece above.
[quote][p][bold]MrPitiful[/bold] wrote: They have agreed a 1am licence. Once a few councillors have paid a visit, been fed and watered F.O.C. it will soon be a 2am licence. Dunno why they bother.[/p][/quote]Councillors out at that time of the morning, you have got to be JOKING, they have not got a clue what is going on and PLEASE do not forget BEESLEY OBJECTED to it, so that's it 1AM as at present, with the business running properly and without fuss. PS BEESLEY is spellt like that in the piece above. Redgolfer
  • Score: -3

10:33am Tue 19 Aug 14

JemBmth says...

JemBmth wrote:
Running out o news again. Almost exactly the same article was in the DE last week. Not worth reading the echo anymore. I just log in to read the comments. Much more interesting apart from this one. Does anyone actually 'buy' the paper these days?
I see the Echo staff 'marking me down!
[quote][p][bold]JemBmth[/bold] wrote: Running out o news again. Almost exactly the same article was in the DE last week. Not worth reading the echo anymore. I just log in to read the comments. Much more interesting apart from this one. Does anyone actually 'buy' the paper these days?[/p][/quote]I see the Echo staff 'marking me down! JemBmth
  • Score: -7

10:40am Tue 19 Aug 14

grazzer says...

l disagree with JemBmth's comments.
Last week's article was about the application todays article is about the rejection of it
l disagree with JemBmth's comments. Last week's article was about the application todays article is about the rejection of it grazzer
  • Score: 15

12:04pm Tue 19 Aug 14

podgie says...

'Protecting Westbourne's image ????
Whenever I go there it appears to have the usual cross section of tastefully tattooed, lunatics,drunks,begg
ars,druggies,wet house and prison half way house residents, weaving their way in and out of the maniac geriatric invalid buggy racers.
I'm not to sure where they get their ''Downton Abbey' image of Westbourne from maybe they haven't played 'hop scotch'between the pavement pizzas and gob that the rest of us have....
'Protecting Westbourne's image ???? Whenever I go there it appears to have the usual cross section of tastefully tattooed, lunatics,drunks,begg ars,druggies,wet house and prison half way house residents, weaving their way in and out of the maniac geriatric invalid buggy racers. I'm not to sure where they get their ''Downton Abbey' image of Westbourne from maybe they haven't played 'hop scotch'between the pavement pizzas and gob that the rest of us have.... podgie
  • Score: 5

12:05pm Tue 19 Aug 14

Kiki1973 says...

FerryFan wrote:
AFCBScarl wrote:
FerryFan wrote:
Chris@Bmouth wrote: To protect the image of charity shops which are always closed.
No, to protect the nights sleep of Westbourne residents who live above those closed shops and the surrounding streets. When people come out of a venue they are not going to miraculously disappear, they will be talking, laughing, arguing, shouting and fighting right outside people's homes while most are in bed asleep. Families, elderly early starters having their sleep disrupted. Town centre pubs clubs and bars, the noise continues long after closing time and over a wide radius, but then it is not the responsibility of the venues who have been serving them drink while they were open, once they have left the premises they are no longer responsible. And all the drunks just cause havoc in around town. Nothing to do with charity shops, you have enough choice of late opening places in and around Bournemouth, in this case what you haven't had you won't miss!!
It's comments like this that doesn't give society a chance!! what makes me laugh is I bet you don't even go in to westbourne or live anywhere near it to make a sound decision. I go in to westbourne to meet friends quite a lot and I have to say even with a 12:30/1:00 licence at the Westbourne pub you never see any violence in the 10years I have been drinking there I think it's safe to say I have seen one fight west Bourne is a nice place and therefore attracts a nicer clientele. So your comments are worthless try going out for a drink in westbourne rather than trolling on your computer.
I do actually live there.
And having a differing opinion isn't trolling!!
[quote][p][bold]FerryFan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]AFCBScarl[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]FerryFan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chris@Bmouth[/bold] wrote: To protect the image of charity shops which are always closed.[/p][/quote]No, to protect the nights sleep of Westbourne residents who live above those closed shops and the surrounding streets. When people come out of a venue they are not going to miraculously disappear, they will be talking, laughing, arguing, shouting and fighting right outside people's homes while most are in bed asleep. Families, elderly early starters having their sleep disrupted. Town centre pubs clubs and bars, the noise continues long after closing time and over a wide radius, but then it is not the responsibility of the venues who have been serving them drink while they were open, once they have left the premises they are no longer responsible. And all the drunks just cause havoc in around town. Nothing to do with charity shops, you have enough choice of late opening places in and around Bournemouth, in this case what you haven't had you won't miss!![/p][/quote]It's comments like this that doesn't give society a chance!! what makes me laugh is I bet you don't even go in to westbourne or live anywhere near it to make a sound decision. I go in to westbourne to meet friends quite a lot and I have to say even with a 12:30/1:00 licence at the Westbourne pub you never see any violence in the 10years I have been drinking there I think it's safe to say I have seen one fight west Bourne is a nice place and therefore attracts a nicer clientele. So your comments are worthless try going out for a drink in westbourne rather than trolling on your computer.[/p][/quote]I do actually live there.[/p][/quote]And having a differing opinion isn't trolling!! Kiki1973
  • Score: -3

12:09pm Tue 19 Aug 14

gonzo123 says...

Westbournes image it's a sh1t hole ha
Westbournes image it's a sh1t hole ha gonzo123
  • Score: -12

12:10pm Tue 19 Aug 14

BmthNewshound says...

"it is important to us to protect Westbourne’s image...It is so important to us to maintain its unique atmosphere."
.
What planet are these Councillors living on because it certainly isn't this one. Just like Bournemouth town centre Westbourne has been on the decline since Waitrose relocated to Parkstone. The area's "unique atmosphere" is now one defined by charity shops and estate agents with a handful of here today gone tomorrow lifestyle businesses.
"it is important to us to protect Westbourne’s image...It is so important to us to maintain its unique atmosphere." . What planet are these Councillors living on because it certainly isn't this one. Just like Bournemouth town centre Westbourne has been on the decline since Waitrose relocated to Parkstone. The area's "unique atmosphere" is now one defined by charity shops and estate agents with a handful of here today gone tomorrow lifestyle businesses. BmthNewshound
  • Score: -5

12:10pm Tue 19 Aug 14

Browser123 says...

grazzer wrote:
l disagree with JemBmth's comments.
Last week's article was about the application todays article is about the rejection of it
Not completely rejected if they are allowed to stay open until 1pm
[quote][p][bold]grazzer[/bold] wrote: l disagree with JemBmth's comments. Last week's article was about the application todays article is about the rejection of it[/p][/quote]Not completely rejected if they are allowed to stay open until 1pm Browser123
  • Score: 7

12:11pm Tue 19 Aug 14

Browser123 says...

Browser123 wrote:
grazzer wrote:
l disagree with JemBmth's comments.
Last week's article was about the application todays article is about the rejection of it
Not completely rejected if they are allowed to stay open until 1pm
Sorry, 1am !!
[quote][p][bold]Browser123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]grazzer[/bold] wrote: l disagree with JemBmth's comments. Last week's article was about the application todays article is about the rejection of it[/p][/quote]Not completely rejected if they are allowed to stay open until 1pm[/p][/quote]Sorry, 1am !! Browser123
  • Score: 4

12:49pm Tue 19 Aug 14

ekimnoslen says...

FerryFan wrote:
Chris@Bmouth wrote:
To protect the image of charity shops which are always closed.
No, to protect the nights sleep of Westbourne residents who live above those closed shops and the surrounding streets. When people come out of a venue they are not going to miraculously disappear, they will be talking, laughing, arguing, shouting and fighting right outside people's homes while most are in bed asleep. Families, elderly early starters having their sleep disrupted. Town centre pubs clubs and bars, the noise continues long after closing time and over a wide radius, but then it is not the responsibility of the venues who have been serving them drink while they were open, once they have left the premises they are no longer responsible. And all the drunks just cause havoc in around town.

Nothing to do with charity shops, you have enough choice of late opening places in and around Bournemouth, in this case what you haven't had you won't miss!!
Spot on. My thoughts entirely. There are certIan parts of the town which seem to be set aside for late drinking with the subsequent noise, vomiting, fighting etc that sometimes accompanies excessive drinking, the latter being one discipline at which younger Britains seem to excel. Keep them in those areas. Don't let it spread round the town.
[quote][p][bold]FerryFan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chris@Bmouth[/bold] wrote: To protect the image of charity shops which are always closed.[/p][/quote]No, to protect the nights sleep of Westbourne residents who live above those closed shops and the surrounding streets. When people come out of a venue they are not going to miraculously disappear, they will be talking, laughing, arguing, shouting and fighting right outside people's homes while most are in bed asleep. Families, elderly early starters having their sleep disrupted. Town centre pubs clubs and bars, the noise continues long after closing time and over a wide radius, but then it is not the responsibility of the venues who have been serving them drink while they were open, once they have left the premises they are no longer responsible. And all the drunks just cause havoc in around town. Nothing to do with charity shops, you have enough choice of late opening places in and around Bournemouth, in this case what you haven't had you won't miss!![/p][/quote]Spot on. My thoughts entirely. There are certIan parts of the town which seem to be set aside for late drinking with the subsequent noise, vomiting, fighting etc that sometimes accompanies excessive drinking, the latter being one discipline at which younger Britains seem to excel. Keep them in those areas. Don't let it spread round the town. ekimnoslen
  • Score: 13

1:36pm Tue 19 Aug 14

West Howe Sean says...

cromwell9 wrote:
nothingtofear wrote:
West Howe Sean wrote:
cromwell9 wrote:
There are enough bars /clubs in BMTH/AshleyX etc,.If this planning application was excepted,it would apen the flood gates to others to try it on .
Westborne.Southbourn




e are the only two areas left in BMTH,,where you can shop and live in comfort.Every where else has been reduced to a tatty LONDON suberb..
So someone trying to open up a new business in Westbourne is "trying it on" are they?

What a ridiculous left wing, anti business attitude, go and live in Russia
Ha Ha Ha. Bet that's the first time that Cromwell9 has ever been called left wing.
This comment has made my day.Me left wing .
I think I have spotted a Red flag somewhere flying over West Howe..
I think you will find that here in West Howe most of us are True Blue Libertarian Thatcherite's and we support free enterprise.
[quote][p][bold]cromwell9[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nothingtofear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]West Howe Sean[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cromwell9[/bold] wrote: There are enough bars /clubs in BMTH/AshleyX etc,.If this planning application was excepted,it would apen the flood gates to others to try it on . Westborne.Southbourn e are the only two areas left in BMTH,,where you can shop and live in comfort.Every where else has been reduced to a tatty LONDON suberb..[/p][/quote]So someone trying to open up a new business in Westbourne is "trying it on" are they? What a ridiculous left wing, anti business attitude, go and live in Russia[/p][/quote]Ha Ha Ha. Bet that's the first time that Cromwell9 has ever been called left wing.[/p][/quote]This comment has made my day.Me left wing . I think I have spotted a Red flag somewhere flying over West Howe..[/p][/quote]I think you will find that here in West Howe most of us are True Blue Libertarian Thatcherite's and we support free enterprise. West Howe Sean
  • Score: 0

2:45pm Tue 19 Aug 14

Holdenhurst says...

ekimnoslen wrote:
FerryFan wrote:
Chris@Bmouth wrote:
To protect the image of charity shops which are always closed.
No, to protect the nights sleep of Westbourne residents who live above those closed shops and the surrounding streets. When people come out of a venue they are not going to miraculously disappear, they will be talking, laughing, arguing, shouting and fighting right outside people's homes while most are in bed asleep. Families, elderly early starters having their sleep disrupted. Town centre pubs clubs and bars, the noise continues long after closing time and over a wide radius, but then it is not the responsibility of the venues who have been serving them drink while they were open, once they have left the premises they are no longer responsible. And all the drunks just cause havoc in around town.

Nothing to do with charity shops, you have enough choice of late opening places in and around Bournemouth, in this case what you haven't had you won't miss!!
Spot on. My thoughts entirely. There are certIan parts of the town which seem to be set aside for late drinking with the subsequent noise, vomiting, fighting etc that sometimes accompanies excessive drinking, the latter being one discipline at which younger Britains seem to excel. Keep them in those areas. Don't let it spread round the town.
What about those of us that would like to go out for drinks later in the evening without having to endure excessive noise, vomiting and fighting?
[quote][p][bold]ekimnoslen[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]FerryFan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chris@Bmouth[/bold] wrote: To protect the image of charity shops which are always closed.[/p][/quote]No, to protect the nights sleep of Westbourne residents who live above those closed shops and the surrounding streets. When people come out of a venue they are not going to miraculously disappear, they will be talking, laughing, arguing, shouting and fighting right outside people's homes while most are in bed asleep. Families, elderly early starters having their sleep disrupted. Town centre pubs clubs and bars, the noise continues long after closing time and over a wide radius, but then it is not the responsibility of the venues who have been serving them drink while they were open, once they have left the premises they are no longer responsible. And all the drunks just cause havoc in around town. Nothing to do with charity shops, you have enough choice of late opening places in and around Bournemouth, in this case what you haven't had you won't miss!![/p][/quote]Spot on. My thoughts entirely. There are certIan parts of the town which seem to be set aside for late drinking with the subsequent noise, vomiting, fighting etc that sometimes accompanies excessive drinking, the latter being one discipline at which younger Britains seem to excel. Keep them in those areas. Don't let it spread round the town.[/p][/quote]What about those of us that would like to go out for drinks later in the evening without having to endure excessive noise, vomiting and fighting? Holdenhurst
  • Score: 4

2:45pm Tue 19 Aug 14

Holdenhurst says...

ekimnoslen wrote:
FerryFan wrote:
Chris@Bmouth wrote:
To protect the image of charity shops which are always closed.
No, to protect the nights sleep of Westbourne residents who live above those closed shops and the surrounding streets. When people come out of a venue they are not going to miraculously disappear, they will be talking, laughing, arguing, shouting and fighting right outside people's homes while most are in bed asleep. Families, elderly early starters having their sleep disrupted. Town centre pubs clubs and bars, the noise continues long after closing time and over a wide radius, but then it is not the responsibility of the venues who have been serving them drink while they were open, once they have left the premises they are no longer responsible. And all the drunks just cause havoc in around town.

Nothing to do with charity shops, you have enough choice of late opening places in and around Bournemouth, in this case what you haven't had you won't miss!!
Spot on. My thoughts entirely. There are certIan parts of the town which seem to be set aside for late drinking with the subsequent noise, vomiting, fighting etc that sometimes accompanies excessive drinking, the latter being one discipline at which younger Britains seem to excel. Keep them in those areas. Don't let it spread round the town.
What about those of us that would like to go out for drinks later in the evening without having to endure excessive noise, vomiting and fighting?
[quote][p][bold]ekimnoslen[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]FerryFan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chris@Bmouth[/bold] wrote: To protect the image of charity shops which are always closed.[/p][/quote]No, to protect the nights sleep of Westbourne residents who live above those closed shops and the surrounding streets. When people come out of a venue they are not going to miraculously disappear, they will be talking, laughing, arguing, shouting and fighting right outside people's homes while most are in bed asleep. Families, elderly early starters having their sleep disrupted. Town centre pubs clubs and bars, the noise continues long after closing time and over a wide radius, but then it is not the responsibility of the venues who have been serving them drink while they were open, once they have left the premises they are no longer responsible. And all the drunks just cause havoc in around town. Nothing to do with charity shops, you have enough choice of late opening places in and around Bournemouth, in this case what you haven't had you won't miss!![/p][/quote]Spot on. My thoughts entirely. There are certIan parts of the town which seem to be set aside for late drinking with the subsequent noise, vomiting, fighting etc that sometimes accompanies excessive drinking, the latter being one discipline at which younger Britains seem to excel. Keep them in those areas. Don't let it spread round the town.[/p][/quote]What about those of us that would like to go out for drinks later in the evening without having to endure excessive noise, vomiting and fighting? Holdenhurst
  • Score: 0

4:17pm Tue 19 Aug 14

cromwell9 says...

West Howe Sean wrote:
cromwell9 wrote:
nothingtofear wrote:
West Howe Sean wrote:
cromwell9 wrote:
There are enough bars /clubs in BMTH/AshleyX etc,.If this planning application was excepted,it would apen the flood gates to others to try it on .
Westborne.Southbourn





e are the only two areas left in BMTH,,where you can shop and live in comfort.Every where else has been reduced to a tatty LONDON suberb..
So someone trying to open up a new business in Westbourne is "trying it on" are they?

What a ridiculous left wing, anti business attitude, go and live in Russia
Ha Ha Ha. Bet that's the first time that Cromwell9 has ever been called left wing.
This comment has made my day.Me left wing .
I think I have spotted a Red flag somewhere flying over West Howe..
I think you will find that here in West Howe most of us are True Blue Libertarian Thatcherite's and we support free enterprise.
In that case ,I would hope you would support UKIP at the 2015 general Election.You would be most welcome.
[quote][p][bold]West Howe Sean[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cromwell9[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nothingtofear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]West Howe Sean[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cromwell9[/bold] wrote: There are enough bars /clubs in BMTH/AshleyX etc,.If this planning application was excepted,it would apen the flood gates to others to try it on . Westborne.Southbourn e are the only two areas left in BMTH,,where you can shop and live in comfort.Every where else has been reduced to a tatty LONDON suberb..[/p][/quote]So someone trying to open up a new business in Westbourne is "trying it on" are they? What a ridiculous left wing, anti business attitude, go and live in Russia[/p][/quote]Ha Ha Ha. Bet that's the first time that Cromwell9 has ever been called left wing.[/p][/quote]This comment has made my day.Me left wing . I think I have spotted a Red flag somewhere flying over West Howe..[/p][/quote]I think you will find that here in West Howe most of us are True Blue Libertarian Thatcherite's and we support free enterprise.[/p][/quote]In that case ,I would hope you would support UKIP at the 2015 general Election.You would be most welcome. cromwell9
  • Score: 1

4:23pm Tue 19 Aug 14

FerryFan says...

I go to several Bournemouth and Westbourne places during the day, but am a day drinker, preferring the day atmosphere in pubs rather than the evening, but if I was going out in the evening, I"d probably choose an out of town venue. There are plenty of nice places about, maybe a bit further to get to but worth it for the nicer atmosphere.
I go to several Bournemouth and Westbourne places during the day, but am a day drinker, preferring the day atmosphere in pubs rather than the evening, but if I was going out in the evening, I"d probably choose an out of town venue. There are plenty of nice places about, maybe a bit further to get to but worth it for the nicer atmosphere. FerryFan
  • Score: 0

4:31pm Tue 19 Aug 14

bogtrotter says...

What about people that live near this place that would like a convenient and local venue for a late night drink or people that work in shops or pubs that finish late and wouldn't mind some social activity? I believe probationary periods are best for this sort of application. If the bar can prove that it attracts the right sort of people and turns away loud, abusive or violent people to keep the atmosphere inside and out at a civil and peaceful level, then they should be allowed a licence.
What about people that live near this place that would like a convenient and local venue for a late night drink or people that work in shops or pubs that finish late and wouldn't mind some social activity? I believe probationary periods are best for this sort of application. If the bar can prove that it attracts the right sort of people and turns away loud, abusive or violent people to keep the atmosphere inside and out at a civil and peaceful level, then they should be allowed a licence. bogtrotter
  • Score: 4

5:17pm Tue 19 Aug 14

Redgolfer says...

ekimnoslen wrote:
FerryFan wrote:
Chris@Bmouth wrote:
To protect the image of charity shops which are always closed.
No, to protect the nights sleep of Westbourne residents who live above those closed shops and the surrounding streets. When people come out of a venue they are not going to miraculously disappear, they will be talking, laughing, arguing, shouting and fighting right outside people's homes while most are in bed asleep. Families, elderly early starters having their sleep disrupted. Town centre pubs clubs and bars, the noise continues long after closing time and over a wide radius, but then it is not the responsibility of the venues who have been serving them drink while they were open, once they have left the premises they are no longer responsible. And all the drunks just cause havoc in around town.

Nothing to do with charity shops, you have enough choice of late opening places in and around Bournemouth, in this case what you haven't had you won't miss!!
Spot on. My thoughts entirely. There are certIan parts of the town which seem to be set aside for late drinking with the subsequent noise, vomiting, fighting etc that sometimes accompanies excessive drinking, the latter being one discipline at which younger Britains seem to excel. Keep them in those areas. Don't let it spread round the town.
When was the last time there was a fight at any of the establishments in Westbourne, a long time ago and this place that wanted a later licence has been operating the 1am licence for a long time with no trouble !!!
[quote][p][bold]ekimnoslen[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]FerryFan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chris@Bmouth[/bold] wrote: To protect the image of charity shops which are always closed.[/p][/quote]No, to protect the nights sleep of Westbourne residents who live above those closed shops and the surrounding streets. When people come out of a venue they are not going to miraculously disappear, they will be talking, laughing, arguing, shouting and fighting right outside people's homes while most are in bed asleep. Families, elderly early starters having their sleep disrupted. Town centre pubs clubs and bars, the noise continues long after closing time and over a wide radius, but then it is not the responsibility of the venues who have been serving them drink while they were open, once they have left the premises they are no longer responsible. And all the drunks just cause havoc in around town. Nothing to do with charity shops, you have enough choice of late opening places in and around Bournemouth, in this case what you haven't had you won't miss!![/p][/quote]Spot on. My thoughts entirely. There are certIan parts of the town which seem to be set aside for late drinking with the subsequent noise, vomiting, fighting etc that sometimes accompanies excessive drinking, the latter being one discipline at which younger Britains seem to excel. Keep them in those areas. Don't let it spread round the town.[/p][/quote]When was the last time there was a fight at any of the establishments in Westbourne, a long time ago and this place that wanted a later licence has been operating the 1am licence for a long time with no trouble !!! Redgolfer
  • Score: 6

5:40pm Tue 19 Aug 14

FerryFan says...

bogtrotter wrote:
What about people that live near this place that would like a convenient and local venue for a late night drink or people that work in shops or pubs that finish late and wouldn't mind some social activity? I believe probationary periods are best for this sort of application. If the bar can prove that it attracts the right sort of people and turns away loud, abusive or violent people to keep the atmosphere inside and out at a civil and peaceful level, then they should be allowed a licence.
Loud abusive and violent people might not look like those kinds of people when they enter the premises. Some people have big personality changes once they've had a few drinks, and in the case of some people just one can turn someone into something quite unpleasant. And if asked to leave then they kick off outside. These are the kind normally causing trouble.
[quote][p][bold]bogtrotter[/bold] wrote: What about people that live near this place that would like a convenient and local venue for a late night drink or people that work in shops or pubs that finish late and wouldn't mind some social activity? I believe probationary periods are best for this sort of application. If the bar can prove that it attracts the right sort of people and turns away loud, abusive or violent people to keep the atmosphere inside and out at a civil and peaceful level, then they should be allowed a licence.[/p][/quote]Loud abusive and violent people might not look like those kinds of people when they enter the premises. Some people have big personality changes once they've had a few drinks, and in the case of some people just one can turn someone into something quite unpleasant. And if asked to leave then they kick off outside. These are the kind normally causing trouble. FerryFan
  • Score: 4

5:48pm Tue 19 Aug 14

Telscombe Cliffy says...

Why do places need to open that late? I'm not a heavy drinker but sure I could leave work and could be plastered by 9 o'clock and then be delivered home.
Why do places need to open that late? I'm not a heavy drinker but sure I could leave work and could be plastered by 9 o'clock and then be delivered home. Telscombe Cliffy
  • Score: 3

6:53pm Tue 19 Aug 14

podgie says...

Telscombe Cliffy wrote:
Why do places need to open that late? I'm not a heavy drinker but sure I could leave work and could be plastered by 9 o'clock and then be delivered home.
Lightweight........
[quote][p][bold]Telscombe Cliffy[/bold] wrote: Why do places need to open that late? I'm not a heavy drinker but sure I could leave work and could be plastered by 9 o'clock and then be delivered home.[/p][/quote]Lightweight........ podgie
  • Score: 2

11:11pm Tue 19 Aug 14

Yankee1 says...

Westbourne's 'image'?

I would never venture there as a destination. I suppose those living there see an image, so if late hours impinge upon their enjoyment, they should be denied.

Boscombe is the place for rowdy partying.
Westbourne's 'image'? I would never venture there as a destination. I suppose those living there see an image, so if late hours impinge upon their enjoyment, they should be denied. Boscombe is the place for rowdy partying. Yankee1
  • Score: 0

10:31am Wed 20 Aug 14

bogtrotter says...

FerryFan wrote:
bogtrotter wrote:
What about people that live near this place that would like a convenient and local venue for a late night drink or people that work in shops or pubs that finish late and wouldn't mind some social activity? I believe probationary periods are best for this sort of application. If the bar can prove that it attracts the right sort of people and turns away loud, abusive or violent people to keep the atmosphere inside and out at a civil and peaceful level, then they should be allowed a licence.
Loud abusive and violent people might not look like those kinds of people when they enter the premises. Some people have big personality changes once they've had a few drinks, and in the case of some people just one can turn someone into something quite unpleasant. And if asked to leave then they kick off outside. These are the kind normally causing trouble.
I quite agree, which is the job of the door staff, management and police if necessary to do their jobs. This can happen in any pub/bar at any time. I just believe they should be granted the chance to prove they can or can't do it.
[quote][p][bold]FerryFan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bogtrotter[/bold] wrote: What about people that live near this place that would like a convenient and local venue for a late night drink or people that work in shops or pubs that finish late and wouldn't mind some social activity? I believe probationary periods are best for this sort of application. If the bar can prove that it attracts the right sort of people and turns away loud, abusive or violent people to keep the atmosphere inside and out at a civil and peaceful level, then they should be allowed a licence.[/p][/quote]Loud abusive and violent people might not look like those kinds of people when they enter the premises. Some people have big personality changes once they've had a few drinks, and in the case of some people just one can turn someone into something quite unpleasant. And if asked to leave then they kick off outside. These are the kind normally causing trouble.[/p][/quote]I quite agree, which is the job of the door staff, management and police if necessary to do their jobs. This can happen in any pub/bar at any time. I just believe they should be granted the chance to prove they can or can't do it. bogtrotter
  • Score: 0

12:43pm Fri 22 Aug 14

Macrike says...

As someone who resides in Westbourne with a child on the way, the last thing I want is another establishment that just churns out drunks and troublemakers. We've already got enough with the occasional chav shouting down the road, cussing and swearing at their one-night stand.

I know this may come as shock to some, but most of us like to sleep during the night. There's already enough places surrounding Westbourne to go out and have a drink or party like an animal. Bournemouth is just down the road and is open till early in the morning and, if you fancy something a bit more stylish, there's Ashley Cross down the other end.

I don't understand why is there a need to spoil every residential area with loud nightlife. Not all of us are unemployed students with no responsibility in life. Some of us actually have to get up early in the morning to go to work!
As someone who resides in Westbourne with a child on the way, the last thing I want is another establishment that just churns out drunks and troublemakers. We've already got enough with the occasional chav shouting down the road, cussing and swearing at their one-night stand. I know this may come as shock to some, but most of us like to sleep during the night. There's already enough places surrounding Westbourne to go out and have a drink or party like an animal. Bournemouth is just down the road and is open till early in the morning and, if you fancy something a bit more stylish, there's Ashley Cross down the other end. I don't understand why is there a need to spoil every residential area with loud nightlife. Not all of us are unemployed students with no responsibility in life. Some of us actually have to get up early in the morning to go to work! Macrike
  • Score: 0

8:50am Tue 26 Aug 14

Linguist says...

AFCBScarl wrote:
FerryFan wrote:
Chris@Bmouth wrote: To protect the image of charity shops which are always closed.
No, to protect the nights sleep of Westbourne residents who live above those closed shops and the surrounding streets. When people come out of a venue they are not going to miraculously disappear, they will be talking, laughing, arguing, shouting and fighting right outside people's homes while most are in bed asleep. Families, elderly early starters having their sleep disrupted. Town centre pubs clubs and bars, the noise continues long after closing time and over a wide radius, but then it is not the responsibility of the venues who have been serving them drink while they were open, once they have left the premises they are no longer responsible. And all the drunks just cause havoc in around town. Nothing to do with charity shops, you have enough choice of late opening places in and around Bournemouth, in this case what you haven't had you won't miss!!
It's comments like this that doesn't give society a chance!! what makes me laugh is I bet you don't even go in to westbourne or live anywhere near it to make a sound decision.
I go in to westbourne to meet friends quite a lot and I have to say even with a 12:30/1:00 licence at the Westbourne pub you never see any violence in the 10years I have been drinking there I think it's safe to say I have seen one fight west Bourne is a nice place and therefore attracts a nicer clientele. So your comments are worthless try going out for a drink in westbourne rather than trolling on your computer.
Obviously, the 1 a.m. license appears to be working then.

I think you answered your own arguement.
[quote][p][bold]AFCBScarl[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]FerryFan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chris@Bmouth[/bold] wrote: To protect the image of charity shops which are always closed.[/p][/quote]No, to protect the nights sleep of Westbourne residents who live above those closed shops and the surrounding streets. When people come out of a venue they are not going to miraculously disappear, they will be talking, laughing, arguing, shouting and fighting right outside people's homes while most are in bed asleep. Families, elderly early starters having their sleep disrupted. Town centre pubs clubs and bars, the noise continues long after closing time and over a wide radius, but then it is not the responsibility of the venues who have been serving them drink while they were open, once they have left the premises they are no longer responsible. And all the drunks just cause havoc in around town. Nothing to do with charity shops, you have enough choice of late opening places in and around Bournemouth, in this case what you haven't had you won't miss!![/p][/quote]It's comments like this that doesn't give society a chance!! what makes me laugh is I bet you don't even go in to westbourne or live anywhere near it to make a sound decision. I go in to westbourne to meet friends quite a lot and I have to say even with a 12:30/1:00 licence at the Westbourne pub you never see any violence in the 10years I have been drinking there I think it's safe to say I have seen one fight west Bourne is a nice place and therefore attracts a nicer clientele. So your comments are worthless try going out for a drink in westbourne rather than trolling on your computer.[/p][/quote]Obviously, the 1 a.m. license appears to be working then. I think you answered your own arguement. Linguist
  • Score: 0

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