Estate agent who glassed stranger in the face at Bournemouth nightclub Bar So is spared jail

Yasmin Thomas

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AN ESTATE agent who smashed a glass into a stranger’s face at a Bournemouth nightclub has been spared jail.

Judge John Harrow said 21-year-old Yasmin Thomas had one of the worst records for violence he had ever seen for a man or woman her age.

Bournemouth Crown Court heard how the sales negotiator, who has 17 previous convictions for assault and battery, “lunged” at her victim, Ronnie Lee, with a glass at Bar So nightclub in the early hours of February 23.

Mr Lee has since spoken of his outrage after she was spared a jail sentence.

Prosecuting Carolyn Branford-Wood said she lashed out at Mr Lee following an altercation involving an e-cigarette belonging to his friend, Richard Evans.

A woman, who was out with Thomas, snatched the device from Mr Evans and dropped it on the dancefloor, the court was told.

A drunken Thomas picked it up and gave it to Mr Lee before saying: ‘Are you not going to say thank you? Who do you think you are?’.

Miss Branford-Wood told the court: “Miss Thomas, with a glass in her hand, lunged towards Mr Lee, who felt a blow to his left eye and blood trickling down his face,”.

Mr Lee suffered a serious cut to his lower eyelid, which required stitches, and two other cuts to his face.

Audrey Archer, mitigating, said Thomas, who works at Palmer Snell Estate Agents in Westbourne, had been diagnosed with an emotionally-unstable personality disorder and had struggled to manage her temper from childhood.

Miss Archer said Thomas, of Malvern Road, Bournemouth, had sought help from mental health services prior to committing this offence and was waiting to undergo cognitive analytical therapy. She told the judge her client was trying to turn her life around and, prior to the attack, her last offence was committed in 2010.

Describing her record as “breathtaking”, Judge Harrow handed Thomas, who had pleaded guilty, to a 12-month suspended sentence.

He said: “It is not without a lot of hesitation and some reservations, I must confess, that I’m going to suspend that 12 month sentence for two years.”

He told Thomas: “Any offence at all will be sent back to this court and you will go straight down those steps to prison for at least 12 months.”

Judge Harrow ordered Thomas to complete an anger management programme, 80 hours of unpaid community work and pay £1,000 in compensation to Mr Lee. She was also ordered to pay a £100 victim surcharge.

Victim was ‘very lucky’ not to suffer permanent damage

THOMAS’S victim was “very lucky” not to suffer any permanent damage following the brutal attack, the court was told.

In a statement, Mr Lee told police he removed shards of glass from his eye and feared he would suffer permanent damage to his vision, 

Miss Branford-Wood told the judge. 

She said doctors initially feared he had suffered a fractured eye socket following the assault, which had left him “cautious” about going on future nights out.

In a statement, which was read to the court, Mr Lee said: “I have already found that while walking around town people have started looking at me as if judging me although I haven’t done anything wrong.”

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5:49am Tue 12 Aug 14

BIGTONE says...

Describing her record as “breathtaking”, Judge Harrow handed Thomas, who had pleaded guilty, to a 12-month suspended sentence.


It won't be long before it will be "lifetaking" instead.
Very lucky she hasn't done that already.
She should be banged up in a secure mental unit for her own good as well as the public.

No lesson has been learnt here.
Describing her record as “breathtaking”, Judge Harrow handed Thomas, who had pleaded guilty, to a 12-month suspended sentence. It won't be long before it will be "lifetaking" instead. Very lucky she hasn't done that already. She should be banged up in a secure mental unit for her own good as well as the public. No lesson has been learnt here. BIGTONE
  • Score: 391

6:11am Tue 12 Aug 14

ShuttleX says...

Audrey Archer, mitigating, said Thomas, who works at Palmer Snell Estate Agents in Westbourne, had been diagnosed with an emotionally-unstable personality disorder and had struggled to manage her temper from childhood...........


They always have an excuse don't they? Nothing to do with the fact the woman is a pi55 head who can't control her temper. They should have sent her down for at least a year. If nothing else, that would protect other people in town while she tries and copes with her "emotionally-unstabl
e personality disorder " Where do they make these names up?

I wonder what she would do to one of her clients if she didn't like them? After all, it wouldn't be her fault would it? She suffers form a disorder, so can get away with murder. Hopefully her employers will now sack her. After all, they are aware of her temper, so they could be sued if she hit any customer.

I would also interested to hear if she received a Pub Watch ban? It would help the public if this nutter was banned from every pub/club in the area. Doubt if Pub Watch did that though, as it would mean not making money off her. After all, what's one more person getting glassed?
Audrey Archer, mitigating, said Thomas, who works at Palmer Snell Estate Agents in Westbourne, had been diagnosed with an emotionally-unstable personality disorder and had struggled to manage her temper from childhood........... They always have an excuse don't they? Nothing to do with the fact the woman is a pi55 head who can't control her temper. They should have sent her down for at least a year. If nothing else, that would protect other people in town while she tries and copes with her "emotionally-unstabl e personality disorder " Where do they make these names up? I wonder what she would do to one of her clients if she didn't like them? After all, it wouldn't be her fault would it? She suffers form a disorder, so can get away with murder. Hopefully her employers will now sack her. After all, they are aware of her temper, so they could be sued if she hit any customer. I would also interested to hear if she received a Pub Watch ban? It would help the public if this nutter was banned from every pub/club in the area. Doubt if Pub Watch did that though, as it would mean not making money off her. After all, what's one more person getting glassed? ShuttleX
  • Score: 357

6:30am Tue 12 Aug 14

crazybird says...

Warning - nobody arrange any viewings with Palmer Snell Westbourne - you might end up getting her to show you round a home - she shouldn't be allowed to work with the public! Disgusting!
Warning - nobody arrange any viewings with Palmer Snell Westbourne - you might end up getting her to show you round a home - she shouldn't be allowed to work with the public! Disgusting! crazybird
  • Score: 429

6:32am Tue 12 Aug 14

bobthedestroyer says...

Disgraceful. If it had been a fraudster they would have been jailed. She should have been sectioned to force her to get the treatment she needs with proper supervision
Disgraceful. If it had been a fraudster they would have been jailed. She should have been sectioned to force her to get the treatment she needs with proper supervision bobthedestroyer
  • Score: 220

6:43am Tue 12 Aug 14

Gastines3 says...

For once the Echo has published too many facts!! I don't think that the Estate Agency mentioned should have been dragged through the mud by an employee's behaviour outside of office hours.I expect there were a few items not mentioned on her C.V,
No business connection with the company mentioned.
For once the Echo has published too many facts!! I don't think that the Estate Agency mentioned should have been dragged through the mud by an employee's behaviour outside of office hours.I expect there were a few items not mentioned on her C.V, No business connection with the company mentioned. Gastines3
  • Score: -184

6:45am Tue 12 Aug 14

anotherfatslob says...

It's a good job alcohol's legal,imagine if she'd been smoking pot.
It's a good job alcohol's legal,imagine if she'd been smoking pot. anotherfatslob
  • Score: 51

6:53am Tue 12 Aug 14

Bournemouth Ohec says...

So what do you actually have to do to go to prison these days?
So what do you actually have to do to go to prison these days? Bournemouth Ohec
  • Score: 218

6:53am Tue 12 Aug 14

oversee says...

Wouldn't like to slag off a house this crew were selling......
Wouldn't like to slag off a house this crew were selling...... oversee
  • Score: 106

6:58am Tue 12 Aug 14

bosco1 says...

What a waste of space she is at 21, she should be doing time in prison at the same time seeking help that seems to be available. Why is it people have to go out drinking and behave like this, yes she should be barred from all pubs and clubs in Bournemouth, we dont need people like her around our town. As for the Guy involved hope he recovers and time will allow him to feel more comfortable when he goes out.Whilst the actions of this woman is not her employers fault, I do hope that she is Sacked before she strikes a customer or staff member again.!
What a waste of space she is at 21, she should be doing time in prison at the same time seeking help that seems to be available. Why is it people have to go out drinking and behave like this, yes she should be barred from all pubs and clubs in Bournemouth, we dont need people like her around our town. As for the Guy involved hope he recovers and time will allow him to feel more comfortable when he goes out.Whilst the actions of this woman is not her employers fault, I do hope that she is Sacked before she strikes a customer or staff member again.! bosco1
  • Score: 189

6:58am Tue 12 Aug 14

CHESILDENECHERRY says...

IF THIS WAS A BLOKE, PRISON WOULD BE CERTAIN. WOMEN GET A WAY WITH A LOT IN THIS JUSTICE SYTEM, ABSOLUTE JOKE!!!!
IF THIS WAS A BLOKE, PRISON WOULD BE CERTAIN. WOMEN GET A WAY WITH A LOT IN THIS JUSTICE SYTEM, ABSOLUTE JOKE!!!! CHESILDENECHERRY
  • Score: 255

7:01am Tue 12 Aug 14

MMM444 says...

Asked her for the last dance one night, she refused and knocked me spark out.
Asked her for the last dance one night, she refused and knocked me spark out. MMM444
  • Score: 52

7:02am Tue 12 Aug 14

retry69 says...

Gastines3 wrote:
For once the Echo has published too many facts!! I don't think that the Estate Agency mentioned should have been dragged through the mud by an employee's behaviour outside of office hours.I expect there were a few items not mentioned on her C.V,
No business connection with the company mentioned.
With respect I disagree at least we know where to avoid this idiot that if she still has a job after this.No doubt in my mind this sends out the wrong messages once again from a judge
[quote][p][bold]Gastines3[/bold] wrote: For once the Echo has published too many facts!! I don't think that the Estate Agency mentioned should have been dragged through the mud by an employee's behaviour outside of office hours.I expect there were a few items not mentioned on her C.V, No business connection with the company mentioned.[/p][/quote]With respect I disagree at least we know where to avoid this idiot that if she still has a job after this.No doubt in my mind this sends out the wrong messages once again from a judge retry69
  • Score: 164

7:06am Tue 12 Aug 14

Fingersonthem says...

The first thing I wanted to know was who was her employer as estate agents are not the best loved people and this would only compound matters.
A P45 may soon be on its way for bringing the company name into disrepute there will be something in her contract of employment to cover that.
The first thing I wanted to know was who was her employer as estate agents are not the best loved people and this would only compound matters. A P45 may soon be on its way for bringing the company name into disrepute there will be something in her contract of employment to cover that. Fingersonthem
  • Score: 137

7:20am Tue 12 Aug 14

S,Bowes says...

Bournemouth/Poole must be the most unpleasant towns in the country .who the Hell would want to holiday here, public's places taken over by nomadic thieving scum,hammer wielding thugs in the suburbs .And this out of control woman masquerading as an Estate agent during the day then disfiguring people after .And all these ratbags allowed to walk the,streets .some celebrity arrives and get accused of blocking the life boat .total rubbish. And a bloke going about his business bullied by the police who were obviously bogged of because they had yo get out of their car .for have a comedy hooter .The place needs an image consultant
Bournemouth/Poole must be the most unpleasant towns in the country .who the Hell would want to holiday here, public's places taken over by nomadic thieving scum,hammer wielding thugs in the suburbs .And this out of control woman masquerading as an Estate agent during the day then disfiguring people after .And all these ratbags allowed to walk the,streets .some celebrity arrives and get accused of blocking the life boat .total rubbish. And a bloke going about his business bullied by the police who were obviously bogged of because they had yo get out of their car .for have a comedy hooter .The place needs an image consultant S,Bowes
  • Score: 83

7:38am Tue 12 Aug 14

TimAFCB says...

S,Bowes wrote:
Bournemouth/Poole must be the most unpleasant towns in the country .who the Hell would want to holiday here, public's places taken over by nomadic thieving scum,hammer wielding thugs in the suburbs .And this out of control woman masquerading as an Estate agent during the day then disfiguring people after .And all these ratbags allowed to walk the,streets .some celebrity arrives and get accused of blocking the life boat .total rubbish. And a bloke going about his business bullied by the police who were obviously bogged of because they had yo get out of their car .for have a comedy hooter .The place needs an image consultant
I think you have led a very sheltered life. In most parts of the country a glassing would not make the news at all as far worse happens everyday. Try living elsewhere then you would see how good this area really is.
[quote][p][bold]S,Bowes[/bold] wrote: Bournemouth/Poole must be the most unpleasant towns in the country .who the Hell would want to holiday here, public's places taken over by nomadic thieving scum,hammer wielding thugs in the suburbs .And this out of control woman masquerading as an Estate agent during the day then disfiguring people after .And all these ratbags allowed to walk the,streets .some celebrity arrives and get accused of blocking the life boat .total rubbish. And a bloke going about his business bullied by the police who were obviously bogged of because they had yo get out of their car .for have a comedy hooter .The place needs an image consultant[/p][/quote]I think you have led a very sheltered life. In most parts of the country a glassing would not make the news at all as far worse happens everyday. Try living elsewhere then you would see how good this area really is. TimAFCB
  • Score: 37

7:50am Tue 12 Aug 14

Lord Spring says...

MMM444 wrote:
Asked her for the last dance one night, she refused and knocked me spark out.
Did she damage your Beer Goggles.
[quote][p][bold]MMM444[/bold] wrote: Asked her for the last dance one night, she refused and knocked me spark out.[/p][/quote]Did she damage your Beer Goggles. Lord Spring
  • Score: 36

7:56am Tue 12 Aug 14

cromwell9 says...

I think with her past criminal record ,she should of been sectioned.under the mental health act ..
The person obviously is a danger to the public .She has a mental illness that needs to be treated on a daily basis.
lets hope the judge has made the write decision,in letting her keep her freedom..Otherwise the next offence could be deadly.
I think with her past criminal record ,she should of been sectioned.under the mental health act .. The person obviously is a danger to the public .She has a mental illness that needs to be treated on a daily basis. lets hope the judge has made the write decision,in letting her keep her freedom..Otherwise the next offence could be deadly. cromwell9
  • Score: 127

7:57am Tue 12 Aug 14

retry69 says...

Lord Spring wrote:
MMM444 wrote:
Asked her for the last dance one night, she refused and knocked me spark out.
Did she damage your Beer Goggles.
"Knocked me spark out" ? I assume that refers to a cigarette :)
[quote][p][bold]Lord Spring[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MMM444[/bold] wrote: Asked her for the last dance one night, she refused and knocked me spark out.[/p][/quote]Did she damage your Beer Goggles.[/p][/quote]"Knocked me spark out" ? I assume that refers to a cigarette :) retry69
  • Score: 17

8:00am Tue 12 Aug 14

S,Bowes says...

TimAFCB wrote:
S,Bowes wrote:
Bournemouth/Poole must be the most unpleasant towns in the country .who the Hell would want to holiday here, public's places taken over by nomadic thieving scum,hammer wielding thugs in the suburbs .And this out of control woman masquerading as an Estate agent during the day then disfiguring people after .And all these ratbags allowed to walk the,streets .some celebrity arrives and get accused of blocking the life boat .total rubbish. And a bloke going about his business bullied by the police who were obviously bogged of because they had yo get out of their car .for have a comedy hooter .The place needs an image consultant
I think you have led a very sheltered life. In most parts of the country a glassing would not make the news at all as far worse happens everyday. Try living elsewhere then you would see how good this area really is.
Being better than the worst is what starts a a race to the bottom,as for living elsewhere .I do and would hate to return.I left an upmarket well ordered town .the place was fun,clean law abbiding the holiday makers was the mainstay of the economy police walked amongst the people .the council were respected .now it seems drug rehab as taken over as the main industry .honest artisans are challenged by corrupt lawless nomads.I wish you well in your chosen town
[quote][p][bold]TimAFCB[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]S,Bowes[/bold] wrote: Bournemouth/Poole must be the most unpleasant towns in the country .who the Hell would want to holiday here, public's places taken over by nomadic thieving scum,hammer wielding thugs in the suburbs .And this out of control woman masquerading as an Estate agent during the day then disfiguring people after .And all these ratbags allowed to walk the,streets .some celebrity arrives and get accused of blocking the life boat .total rubbish. And a bloke going about his business bullied by the police who were obviously bogged of because they had yo get out of their car .for have a comedy hooter .The place needs an image consultant[/p][/quote]I think you have led a very sheltered life. In most parts of the country a glassing would not make the news at all as far worse happens everyday. Try living elsewhere then you would see how good this area really is.[/p][/quote]Being better than the worst is what starts a a race to the bottom,as for living elsewhere .I do and would hate to return.I left an upmarket well ordered town .the place was fun,clean law abbiding the holiday makers was the mainstay of the economy police walked amongst the people .the council were respected .now it seems drug rehab as taken over as the main industry .honest artisans are challenged by corrupt lawless nomads.I wish you well in your chosen town S,Bowes
  • Score: 12

8:05am Tue 12 Aug 14

retry69 says...

cromwell9 wrote:
I think with her past criminal record ,she should of been sectioned.under the mental health act ..
The person obviously is a danger to the public .She has a mental illness that needs to be treated on a daily basis.
lets hope the judge has made the write decision,in letting her keep her freedom..Otherwise the next offence could be deadly.
Although I take your point about a possible mental illness . Being a drunk with a short fuse in my opinion is not a mental illness it is more lack of self control and certainly should have resulted in a custodial sentence where she may have been able to have time to have sober thoughts.
[quote][p][bold]cromwell9[/bold] wrote: I think with her past criminal record ,she should of been sectioned.under the mental health act .. The person obviously is a danger to the public .She has a mental illness that needs to be treated on a daily basis. lets hope the judge has made the write decision,in letting her keep her freedom..Otherwise the next offence could be deadly.[/p][/quote]Although I take your point about a possible mental illness . Being a drunk with a short fuse in my opinion is not a mental illness it is more lack of self control and certainly should have resulted in a custodial sentence where she may have been able to have time to have sober thoughts. retry69
  • Score: 107

8:07am Tue 12 Aug 14

bobthedestroyer says...

Bournemouth Ohec wrote:
So what do you actually have to do to go to prison these days?
Defraud the government in some way pretty much guarantees it otherwise it's pot luck.
[quote][p][bold]Bournemouth Ohec[/bold] wrote: So what do you actually have to do to go to prison these days?[/p][/quote]Defraud the government in some way pretty much guarantees it otherwise it's pot luck. bobthedestroyer
  • Score: 54

8:08am Tue 12 Aug 14

Nickydoonah says...

I asked her for the last but one dance one night ,she refused and sold me a bedsit next door to nobath George you know
thank goodness I had a cooling period
I asked her for the last but one dance one night ,she refused and sold me a bedsit next door to nobath George you know thank goodness I had a cooling period Nickydoonah
  • Score: -44

8:12am Tue 12 Aug 14

bobthedestroyer says...

retry69 wrote:
cromwell9 wrote:
I think with her past criminal record ,she should of been sectioned.under the mental health act ..
The person obviously is a danger to the public .She has a mental illness that needs to be treated on a daily basis.
lets hope the judge has made the write decision,in letting her keep her freedom..Otherwise the next offence could be deadly.
Although I take your point about a possible mental illness . Being a drunk with a short fuse in my opinion is not a mental illness it is more lack of self control and certainly should have resulted in a custodial sentence where she may have been able to have time to have sober thoughts.
Regardless she should have gone to prison. Tony Marsden did 10 weeks of his sentence and how many physical assaults did he carry out?
[quote][p][bold]retry69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cromwell9[/bold] wrote: I think with her past criminal record ,she should of been sectioned.under the mental health act .. The person obviously is a danger to the public .She has a mental illness that needs to be treated on a daily basis. lets hope the judge has made the write decision,in letting her keep her freedom..Otherwise the next offence could be deadly.[/p][/quote]Although I take your point about a possible mental illness . Being a drunk with a short fuse in my opinion is not a mental illness it is more lack of self control and certainly should have resulted in a custodial sentence where she may have been able to have time to have sober thoughts.[/p][/quote]Regardless she should have gone to prison. Tony Marsden did 10 weeks of his sentence and how many physical assaults did he carry out? bobthedestroyer
  • Score: 52

8:21am Tue 12 Aug 14

retry69 says...

bobthedestroyer wrote:
retry69 wrote:
cromwell9 wrote:
I think with her past criminal record ,she should of been sectioned.under the mental health act ..
The person obviously is a danger to the public .She has a mental illness that needs to be treated on a daily basis.
lets hope the judge has made the write decision,in letting her keep her freedom..Otherwise the next offence could be deadly.
Although I take your point about a possible mental illness . Being a drunk with a short fuse in my opinion is not a mental illness it is more lack of self control and certainly should have resulted in a custodial sentence where she may have been able to have time to have sober thoughts.
Regardless she should have gone to prison. Tony Marsden did 10 weeks of his sentence and how many physical assaults did he carry out?
Yep
[quote][p][bold]bobthedestroyer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]retry69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cromwell9[/bold] wrote: I think with her past criminal record ,she should of been sectioned.under the mental health act .. The person obviously is a danger to the public .She has a mental illness that needs to be treated on a daily basis. lets hope the judge has made the write decision,in letting her keep her freedom..Otherwise the next offence could be deadly.[/p][/quote]Although I take your point about a possible mental illness . Being a drunk with a short fuse in my opinion is not a mental illness it is more lack of self control and certainly should have resulted in a custodial sentence where she may have been able to have time to have sober thoughts.[/p][/quote]Regardless she should have gone to prison. Tony Marsden did 10 weeks of his sentence and how many physical assaults did he carry out?[/p][/quote]Yep retry69
  • Score: 16

8:30am Tue 12 Aug 14

sc61 says...

TimAFCB wrote:
S,Bowes wrote:
Bournemouth/Poole must be the most unpleasant towns in the country .who the Hell would want to holiday here, public's places taken over by nomadic thieving scum,hammer wielding thugs in the suburbs .And this out of control woman masquerading as an Estate agent during the day then disfiguring people after .And all these ratbags allowed to walk the,streets .some celebrity arrives and get accused of blocking the life boat .total rubbish. And a bloke going about his business bullied by the police who were obviously bogged of because they had yo get out of their car .for have a comedy hooter .The place needs an image consultant
I think you have led a very sheltered life. In most parts of the country a glassing would not make the news at all as far worse happens everyday. Try living elsewhere then you would see how good this area really is.
Like they said. Get some perspective for pity's sake.
[quote][p][bold]TimAFCB[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]S,Bowes[/bold] wrote: Bournemouth/Poole must be the most unpleasant towns in the country .who the Hell would want to holiday here, public's places taken over by nomadic thieving scum,hammer wielding thugs in the suburbs .And this out of control woman masquerading as an Estate agent during the day then disfiguring people after .And all these ratbags allowed to walk the,streets .some celebrity arrives and get accused of blocking the life boat .total rubbish. And a bloke going about his business bullied by the police who were obviously bogged of because they had yo get out of their car .for have a comedy hooter .The place needs an image consultant[/p][/quote]I think you have led a very sheltered life. In most parts of the country a glassing would not make the news at all as far worse happens everyday. Try living elsewhere then you would see how good this area really is.[/p][/quote]Like they said. Get some perspective for pity's sake. sc61
  • Score: 8

8:32am Tue 12 Aug 14

LeeThorne says...

Pretty sad your all ganging up on a 21 year old girl. The courts have said whats what so get on with your lives.
Pretty sad your all ganging up on a 21 year old girl. The courts have said whats what so get on with your lives. LeeThorne
  • Score: -236

8:32am Tue 12 Aug 14

echor23 says...

It's barbaric that she has avoided jail. She is a danger to public and a disgrace to society.
I'm sure the estate agencies takings will go down dramatically with her being there.
Another disgraceful judge just letting a truely putrid person walk free.
It's barbaric that she has avoided jail. She is a danger to public and a disgrace to society. I'm sure the estate agencies takings will go down dramatically with her being there. Another disgraceful judge just letting a truely putrid person walk free. echor23
  • Score: 102

8:36am Tue 12 Aug 14

retry69 says...

LeeThorne wrote:
Pretty sad your all ganging up on a 21 year old girl. The courts have said whats what so get on with your lives.
Says it all lee ffs
[quote][p][bold]LeeThorne[/bold] wrote: Pretty sad your all ganging up on a 21 year old girl. The courts have said whats what so get on with your lives.[/p][/quote]Says it all lee ffs retry69
  • Score: 20

8:44am Tue 12 Aug 14

ifordcherry says...

F joke....Bang the **** up !!
F joke....Bang the **** up !! ifordcherry
  • Score: 67

8:53am Tue 12 Aug 14

Boscomite says...

The more I read about people, the more I like my dog. And dogs don't get a second chance. Well exept this one.
The more I read about people, the more I like my dog. And dogs don't get a second chance. Well exept this one. Boscomite
  • Score: 66

9:05am Tue 12 Aug 14

Quakers2 says...

Nickydoonah wrote:
I asked her for the last but one dance one night ,she refused and sold me a bedsit next door to nobath George you know
thank goodness I had a cooling period
You should be locked up with her!
[quote][p][bold]Nickydoonah[/bold] wrote: I asked her for the last but one dance one night ,she refused and sold me a bedsit next door to nobath George you know thank goodness I had a cooling period[/p][/quote]You should be locked up with her! Quakers2
  • Score: 28

9:10am Tue 12 Aug 14

MrPitiful says...

LeeThorne wrote:
Pretty sad your all ganging up on a 21 year old girl. The courts have said whats what so get on with your lives.
I take your point but it sounds like this 21 year old "girl" is pretty capable of looking after herself - especially when she's had a smirnoff or 2 with her mates.

Would you want to get on the wrong side of her? A more suitable sentence was surely due here.
[quote][p][bold]LeeThorne[/bold] wrote: Pretty sad your all ganging up on a 21 year old girl. The courts have said whats what so get on with your lives.[/p][/quote]I take your point but it sounds like this 21 year old "girl" is pretty capable of looking after herself - especially when she's had a smirnoff or 2 with her mates. Would you want to get on the wrong side of her? A more suitable sentence was surely due here. MrPitiful
  • Score: 79

9:14am Tue 12 Aug 14

BH1 loyal says...

S,Bowes wrote:
Bournemouth/Poole must be the most unpleasant towns in the country .who the Hell would want to holiday here, public's places taken over by nomadic thieving scum,hammer wielding thugs in the suburbs .And this out of control woman masquerading as an Estate agent during the day then disfiguring people after .And all these ratbags allowed to walk the,streets .some celebrity arrives and get accused of blocking the life boat .total rubbish. And a bloke going about his business bullied by the police who were obviously bogged of because they had yo get out of their car .for have a comedy hooter .The place needs an image consultant
Where do you go on holiday ?
[quote][p][bold]S,Bowes[/bold] wrote: Bournemouth/Poole must be the most unpleasant towns in the country .who the Hell would want to holiday here, public's places taken over by nomadic thieving scum,hammer wielding thugs in the suburbs .And this out of control woman masquerading as an Estate agent during the day then disfiguring people after .And all these ratbags allowed to walk the,streets .some celebrity arrives and get accused of blocking the life boat .total rubbish. And a bloke going about his business bullied by the police who were obviously bogged of because they had yo get out of their car .for have a comedy hooter .The place needs an image consultant[/p][/quote]Where do you go on holiday ? BH1 loyal
  • Score: -5

9:18am Tue 12 Aug 14

Norman Stansfield says...

Bournemouth Ohec wrote:
So what do you actually have to do to go to prison these days?
Well, you can say some unpleasant things about publicity seekers on Twitter. People actually did time for that, wherby you can nearly blind someone in Bournemouth, and get off with a token slap on the wrist. Like I always say : good old fashioned violent crime is 'old hat' with the justice system. They are just not interested. Breathtaking indeed.
[quote][p][bold]Bournemouth Ohec[/bold] wrote: So what do you actually have to do to go to prison these days?[/p][/quote]Well, you can say some unpleasant things about publicity seekers on Twitter. People actually did time for that, wherby you can nearly blind someone in Bournemouth, and get off with a token slap on the wrist. Like I always say : good old fashioned violent crime is 'old hat' with the justice system. They are just not interested. Breathtaking indeed. Norman Stansfield
  • Score: 37

9:24am Tue 12 Aug 14

Adrian XX says...

She should have been sent to jail but was not. So what now? At the very least her treatment for her mental illness and her progress should be monitored by the court.

Could she wear one of those new sobriety ankle-bracelets?
She should have been sent to jail but was not. So what now? At the very least her treatment for her mental illness and her progress should be monitored by the court. Could she wear one of those new sobriety ankle-bracelets? Adrian XX
  • Score: 28

9:24am Tue 12 Aug 14

60plus says...

Hope she gets the sack it could be a client next time if they don't like the place she is showing.has she thought about showing st Anne's .
Hope she gets the sack it could be a client next time if they don't like the place she is showing.has she thought about showing st Anne's . 60plus
  • Score: 44

9:25am Tue 12 Aug 14

BH1 loyal says...

Again I have to say it, you really are a sad bunch, why would you all want a 21 one year old female in jail ? If the offence warranted jail, that is where she would be, if she was unemployed you would have all blamed it on that, however she is employed, she is young, she has received her punishment and has a chance to live a good life, you are all the real life victor meldrews that originally got dorset it's reputation for being a boring place where you wait to die, I think some of you must be bitter that you are still here with your old useless selves, angry that you can't do the things you once could, don't worry guys not long now.
Again I have to say it, you really are a sad bunch, why would you all want a 21 one year old female in jail ? If the offence warranted jail, that is where she would be, if she was unemployed you would have all blamed it on that, however she is employed, she is young, she has received her punishment and has a chance to live a good life, you are all the real life victor meldrews that originally got dorset it's reputation for being a boring place where you wait to die, I think some of you must be bitter that you are still here with your old useless selves, angry that you can't do the things you once could, don't worry guys not long now. BH1 loyal
  • Score: -173

9:26am Tue 12 Aug 14

Marty Caine says...

She attacked someone with a glass and there is no excuse for that whatsoever, even less excuse for a judge not to give a custodial sentence!
She attacked someone with a glass and there is no excuse for that whatsoever, even less excuse for a judge not to give a custodial sentence! Marty Caine
  • Score: 71

9:26am Tue 12 Aug 14

BH1 loyal says...

60plus wrote:
Hope she gets the sack it could be a client next time if they don't like the place she is showing.has she thought about showing st Anne's .
Yes so then you could moan when she is unemployed, you old bitter twisted fool.
[quote][p][bold]60plus[/bold] wrote: Hope she gets the sack it could be a client next time if they don't like the place she is showing.has she thought about showing st Anne's .[/p][/quote]Yes so then you could moan when she is unemployed, you old bitter twisted fool. BH1 loyal
  • Score: -96

9:31am Tue 12 Aug 14

Boscomite says...

BH1 loyal wrote:
Again I have to say it, you really are a sad bunch, why would you all want a 21 one year old female in jail ? If the offence warranted jail, that is where she would be, if she was unemployed you would have all blamed it on that, however she is employed, she is young, she has received her punishment and has a chance to live a good life, you are all the real life victor meldrews that originally got dorset it's reputation for being a boring place where you wait to die, I think some of you must be bitter that you are still here with your old useless selves, angry that you can't do the things you once could, don't worry guys not long now.
It has nothing to do with age or gender. If it had been a 19 year old male, I suspect you would also be baying for blood.
[quote][p][bold]BH1 loyal[/bold] wrote: Again I have to say it, you really are a sad bunch, why would you all want a 21 one year old female in jail ? If the offence warranted jail, that is where she would be, if she was unemployed you would have all blamed it on that, however she is employed, she is young, she has received her punishment and has a chance to live a good life, you are all the real life victor meldrews that originally got dorset it's reputation for being a boring place where you wait to die, I think some of you must be bitter that you are still here with your old useless selves, angry that you can't do the things you once could, don't worry guys not long now.[/p][/quote]It has nothing to do with age or gender. If it had been a 19 year old male, I suspect you would also be baying for blood. Boscomite
  • Score: 72

9:33am Tue 12 Aug 14

BH1 loyal says...

Boscomite wrote:
BH1 loyal wrote:
Again I have to say it, you really are a sad bunch, why would you all want a 21 one year old female in jail ? If the offence warranted jail, that is where she would be, if she was unemployed you would have all blamed it on that, however she is employed, she is young, she has received her punishment and has a chance to live a good life, you are all the real life victor meldrews that originally got dorset it's reputation for being a boring place where you wait to die, I think some of you must be bitter that you are still here with your old useless selves, angry that you can't do the things you once could, don't worry guys not long now.
It has nothing to do with age or gender. If it had been a 19 year old male, I suspect you would also be baying for blood.
No I would not, why on earth would I want to see a 19 year old in jail ? How serious was the injury she caused, not how serious it could of been, I want to know how serious the actual injury was.
[quote][p][bold]Boscomite[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BH1 loyal[/bold] wrote: Again I have to say it, you really are a sad bunch, why would you all want a 21 one year old female in jail ? If the offence warranted jail, that is where she would be, if she was unemployed you would have all blamed it on that, however she is employed, she is young, she has received her punishment and has a chance to live a good life, you are all the real life victor meldrews that originally got dorset it's reputation for being a boring place where you wait to die, I think some of you must be bitter that you are still here with your old useless selves, angry that you can't do the things you once could, don't worry guys not long now.[/p][/quote]It has nothing to do with age or gender. If it had been a 19 year old male, I suspect you would also be baying for blood.[/p][/quote]No I would not, why on earth would I want to see a 19 year old in jail ? How serious was the injury she caused, not how serious it could of been, I want to know how serious the actual injury was. BH1 loyal
  • Score: -106

9:35am Tue 12 Aug 14

ZCLDN2014 says...

The print media (even a local paper like the daily Echo) have a remit to sell papers and sensationalise stories and one- sided reporting like this has obviously had the desired effect for some; judging by the small minded comments so far. Mental health is still something that is totally misunderstood in society (and none more so than in the comments section of the Daily Echo clearly) and rather than resorting to petty name calling, perhaps a better understanding of the reasons behind her behaviour could and should be called for. The article mentions that the judge acknowledged that she is trying to turn her life around, for which she should be supported, not slapped down in public by those without the full facts or a complete understanding of the reasons for her behaviour.
The print media (even a local paper like the daily Echo) have a remit to sell papers and sensationalise stories and one- sided reporting like this has obviously had the desired effect for some; judging by the small minded comments so far. Mental health is still something that is totally misunderstood in society (and none more so than in the comments section of the Daily Echo clearly) and rather than resorting to petty name calling, perhaps a better understanding of the reasons behind her behaviour could and should be called for. The article mentions that the judge acknowledged that she is trying to turn her life around, for which she should be supported, not slapped down in public by those without the full facts or a complete understanding of the reasons for her behaviour. ZCLDN2014
  • Score: -68

9:36am Tue 12 Aug 14

podgie says...

LeeThorne wrote:
Pretty sad your all ganging up on a 21 year old girl. The courts have said whats what so get on with your lives.
Yes and carry on picking the glass out your face.
Lee there are plenty of examples , where the courts are so out of sync with their pansy arsed sentencing that puts the public in more danger,
I therefore think people have every right to express their displeasure.
Maybe the judge might come from out of their butler serviced lodges and smell the coffee ..
[quote][p][bold]LeeThorne[/bold] wrote: Pretty sad your all ganging up on a 21 year old girl. The courts have said whats what so get on with your lives.[/p][/quote]Yes and carry on picking the glass out your face. Lee there are plenty of examples , where the courts are so out of sync with their pansy arsed sentencing that puts the public in more danger, I therefore think people have every right to express their displeasure. Maybe the judge might come from out of their butler serviced lodges and smell the coffee .. podgie
  • Score: 74

9:38am Tue 12 Aug 14

BH1 loyal says...

podgie wrote:
LeeThorne wrote:
Pretty sad your all ganging up on a 21 year old girl. The courts have said whats what so get on with your lives.
Yes and carry on picking the glass out your face.
Lee there are plenty of examples , where the courts are so out of sync with their pansy arsed sentencing that puts the public in more danger,
I therefore think people have every right to express their displeasure.
Maybe the judge might come from out of their butler serviced lodges and smell the coffee ..
Haha fantastic exaggeration! Are you a story teller ?
[quote][p][bold]podgie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LeeThorne[/bold] wrote: Pretty sad your all ganging up on a 21 year old girl. The courts have said whats what so get on with your lives.[/p][/quote]Yes and carry on picking the glass out your face. Lee there are plenty of examples , where the courts are so out of sync with their pansy arsed sentencing that puts the public in more danger, I therefore think people have every right to express their displeasure. Maybe the judge might come from out of their butler serviced lodges and smell the coffee ..[/p][/quote]Haha fantastic exaggeration! Are you a story teller ? BH1 loyal
  • Score: -75

9:40am Tue 12 Aug 14

master plan says...

This country is so weak at passing a sentence. When visiting family in Florida there next door neighbour was arrested for drink driving with a child in the car. She was sentenced for 21 months inside.
This country is so weak at passing a sentence. When visiting family in Florida there next door neighbour was arrested for drink driving with a child in the car. She was sentenced for 21 months inside. master plan
  • Score: 49

9:41am Tue 12 Aug 14

Redgolfer says...

BH1 loyal wrote:
Again I have to say it, you really are a sad bunch, why would you all want a 21 one year old female in jail ? If the offence warranted jail, that is where she would be, if she was unemployed you would have all blamed it on that, however she is employed, she is young, she has received her punishment and has a chance to live a good life, you are all the real life victor meldrews that originally got dorset it's reputation for being a boring place where you wait to die, I think some of you must be bitter that you are still here with your old useless selves, angry that you can't do the things you once could, don't worry guys not long now.
Would you be saying the same if you had been the victim and where do you get the boring Dorset bit from, maybe Hampshire but I expect that was before your time Sonny ???
[quote][p][bold]BH1 loyal[/bold] wrote: Again I have to say it, you really are a sad bunch, why would you all want a 21 one year old female in jail ? If the offence warranted jail, that is where she would be, if she was unemployed you would have all blamed it on that, however she is employed, she is young, she has received her punishment and has a chance to live a good life, you are all the real life victor meldrews that originally got dorset it's reputation for being a boring place where you wait to die, I think some of you must be bitter that you are still here with your old useless selves, angry that you can't do the things you once could, don't worry guys not long now.[/p][/quote]Would you be saying the same if you had been the victim and where do you get the boring Dorset bit from, maybe Hampshire but I expect that was before your time Sonny ??? Redgolfer
  • Score: 46

9:41am Tue 12 Aug 14

podgie says...

retry69 wrote:
Gastines3 wrote:
For once the Echo has published too many facts!! I don't think that the Estate Agency mentioned should have been dragged through the mud by an employee's behaviour outside of office hours.I expect there were a few items not mentioned on her C.V,
No business connection with the company mentioned.
With respect I disagree at least we know where to avoid this idiot that if she still has a job after this.No doubt in my mind this sends out the wrong messages once again from a judge
Totally disagree if the estate agent is employing this nutter with an extensive criminal history ,to go into peoples houses,without having done the appropriate checks on her ,we the general public should be aware.
I am sick to the back teeth of everyone worrying about the wrong doers rights.
[quote][p][bold]retry69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Gastines3[/bold] wrote: For once the Echo has published too many facts!! I don't think that the Estate Agency mentioned should have been dragged through the mud by an employee's behaviour outside of office hours.I expect there were a few items not mentioned on her C.V, No business connection with the company mentioned.[/p][/quote]With respect I disagree at least we know where to avoid this idiot that if she still has a job after this.No doubt in my mind this sends out the wrong messages once again from a judge[/p][/quote]Totally disagree if the estate agent is employing this nutter with an extensive criminal history ,to go into peoples houses,without having done the appropriate checks on her ,we the general public should be aware. I am sick to the back teeth of everyone worrying about the wrong doers rights. podgie
  • Score: 79

9:42am Tue 12 Aug 14

BH1 loyal says...

Imagine this girl was a gypsy or as you weirdos call it part of "the irish caravan club" or even worse imagine she was from or the incident had happened in boscombe, a couple of your favourite subjects you would all be in meltdown, surely some of you must get bored commenting the same things over and over again how many more times do you want to moan about judges ? Maybe just maybe you don't have a clue about sentencing.
Imagine this girl was a gypsy or as you weirdos call it part of "the irish caravan club" or even worse imagine she was from or the incident had happened in boscombe, a couple of your favourite subjects you would all be in meltdown, surely some of you must get bored commenting the same things over and over again how many more times do you want to moan about judges ? Maybe just maybe you don't have a clue about sentencing. BH1 loyal
  • Score: -75

9:43am Tue 12 Aug 14

speedy231278 says...

crazybird wrote:
Warning - nobody arrange any viewings with Palmer Snell Westbourne - you might end up getting her to show you round a home - she shouldn't be allowed to work with the public! Disgusting!
Don't bother anyway. I have dealt with both the Winton and Castle Lane branches and have to say that they don't even reach the level of shoddiness you would expect from a stereotypical agent, never mind approach anything half decent. Sadly, my current letting agent is even worse. Does anyone know any reputable ones anywhere in Bournemouth whatsoever?

The fact that they continue to employ someone with so many convictions is an utter disgrace!
[quote][p][bold]crazybird[/bold] wrote: Warning - nobody arrange any viewings with Palmer Snell Westbourne - you might end up getting her to show you round a home - she shouldn't be allowed to work with the public! Disgusting![/p][/quote]Don't bother anyway. I have dealt with both the Winton and Castle Lane branches and have to say that they don't even reach the level of shoddiness you would expect from a stereotypical agent, never mind approach anything half decent. Sadly, my current letting agent is even worse. Does anyone know any reputable ones anywhere in Bournemouth whatsoever? The fact that they continue to employ someone with so many convictions is an utter disgrace! speedy231278
  • Score: 49

9:45am Tue 12 Aug 14

speedy231278 says...

Gastines3 wrote:
For once the Echo has published too many facts!! I don't think that the Estate Agency mentioned should have been dragged through the mud by an employee's behaviour outside of office hours.I expect there were a few items not mentioned on her C.V,
No business connection with the company mentioned.
The performance of the agency for it's customers is enough to drag them through the mud! I have dealt with two of their offices, and decided many years ago never again!
[quote][p][bold]Gastines3[/bold] wrote: For once the Echo has published too many facts!! I don't think that the Estate Agency mentioned should have been dragged through the mud by an employee's behaviour outside of office hours.I expect there were a few items not mentioned on her C.V, No business connection with the company mentioned.[/p][/quote]The performance of the agency for it's customers is enough to drag them through the mud! I have dealt with two of their offices, and decided many years ago never again! speedy231278
  • Score: 30

9:46am Tue 12 Aug 14

speedy231278 says...

Bournemouth Ohec wrote:
So what do you actually have to do to go to prison these days?
If you owe the council or the gvt. some money....
[quote][p][bold]Bournemouth Ohec[/bold] wrote: So what do you actually have to do to go to prison these days?[/p][/quote]If you owe the council or the gvt. some money.... speedy231278
  • Score: 27

9:47am Tue 12 Aug 14

BH1 loyal says...

Redgolfer wrote:
BH1 loyal wrote:
Again I have to say it, you really are a sad bunch, why would you all want a 21 one year old female in jail ? If the offence warranted jail, that is where she would be, if she was unemployed you would have all blamed it on that, however she is employed, she is young, she has received her punishment and has a chance to live a good life, you are all the real life victor meldrews that originally got dorset it's reputation for being a boring place where you wait to die, I think some of you must be bitter that you are still here with your old useless selves, angry that you can't do the things you once could, don't worry guys not long now.
Would you be saying the same if you had been the victim and where do you get the boring Dorset bit from, maybe Hampshire but I expect that was before your time Sonny ???
As you said probably before my time, you didnt realise the area had a reputation for being old ?
[quote][p][bold]Redgolfer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BH1 loyal[/bold] wrote: Again I have to say it, you really are a sad bunch, why would you all want a 21 one year old female in jail ? If the offence warranted jail, that is where she would be, if she was unemployed you would have all blamed it on that, however she is employed, she is young, she has received her punishment and has a chance to live a good life, you are all the real life victor meldrews that originally got dorset it's reputation for being a boring place where you wait to die, I think some of you must be bitter that you are still here with your old useless selves, angry that you can't do the things you once could, don't worry guys not long now.[/p][/quote]Would you be saying the same if you had been the victim and where do you get the boring Dorset bit from, maybe Hampshire but I expect that was before your time Sonny ???[/p][/quote]As you said probably before my time, you didnt realise the area had a reputation for being old ? BH1 loyal
  • Score: -31

9:54am Tue 12 Aug 14

BH1 loyal says...

speedy231278 wrote:
BH1 loyal wrote:
Again I have to say it, you really are a sad bunch, why would you all want a 21 one year old female in jail ? If the offence warranted jail, that is where she would be, if she was unemployed you would have all blamed it on that, however she is employed, she is young, she has received her punishment and has a chance to live a good life, you are all the real life victor meldrews that originally got dorset it's reputation for being a boring place where you wait to die, I think some of you must be bitter that you are still here with your old useless selves, angry that you can't do the things you once could, don't worry guys not long now.
So, you don't think a glassing after 17 previous assaults deserves a proper punishment? Where do you live, West Howe or Boscombe?
What I think is that I am not the judge the jury or the executioner, she has received her punishment from within the government guidelines, we have no information on her previous, and if she hasn't previously been to jail for it there is a reason because what she has done has not warranted a jail sentence simple, where are you from ? Let's discuss areas.
[quote][p][bold]speedy231278[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BH1 loyal[/bold] wrote: Again I have to say it, you really are a sad bunch, why would you all want a 21 one year old female in jail ? If the offence warranted jail, that is where she would be, if she was unemployed you would have all blamed it on that, however she is employed, she is young, she has received her punishment and has a chance to live a good life, you are all the real life victor meldrews that originally got dorset it's reputation for being a boring place where you wait to die, I think some of you must be bitter that you are still here with your old useless selves, angry that you can't do the things you once could, don't worry guys not long now.[/p][/quote]So, you don't think a glassing after 17 previous assaults deserves a proper punishment? Where do you live, West Howe or Boscombe?[/p][/quote]What I think is that I am not the judge the jury or the executioner, she has received her punishment from within the government guidelines, we have no information on her previous, and if she hasn't previously been to jail for it there is a reason because what she has done has not warranted a jail sentence simple, where are you from ? Let's discuss areas. BH1 loyal
  • Score: -71

9:56am Tue 12 Aug 14

chelsea53 says...

Seeking help before the attack good. Drinking alcohol when she knew she had problems , really. 6 months in St Ann's should have been her sentence.
Seeking help before the attack good. Drinking alcohol when she knew she had problems , really. 6 months in St Ann's should have been her sentence. chelsea53
  • Score: 33

9:56am Tue 12 Aug 14

Old Colonial says...

BH1 loyal wrote:
Boscomite wrote:
BH1 loyal wrote:
Again I have to say it, you really are a sad bunch, why would you all want a 21 one year old female in jail ? If the offence warranted jail, that is where she would be, if she was unemployed you would have all blamed it on that, however she is employed, she is young, she has received her punishment and has a chance to live a good life, you are all the real life victor meldrews that originally got dorset it's reputation for being a boring place where you wait to die, I think some of you must be bitter that you are still here with your old useless selves, angry that you can't do the things you once could, don't worry guys not long now.
It has nothing to do with age or gender. If it had been a 19 year old male, I suspect you would also be baying for blood.
No I would not, why on earth would I want to see a 19 year old in jail ? How serious was the injury she caused, not how serious it could of been, I want to know how serious the actual injury was.
Why should she be be in jail? ".......17 previous convictions for assault and battery,". Or what, in your world, constitutes being a danger to the public?
[quote][p][bold]BH1 loyal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Boscomite[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BH1 loyal[/bold] wrote: Again I have to say it, you really are a sad bunch, why would you all want a 21 one year old female in jail ? If the offence warranted jail, that is where she would be, if she was unemployed you would have all blamed it on that, however she is employed, she is young, she has received her punishment and has a chance to live a good life, you are all the real life victor meldrews that originally got dorset it's reputation for being a boring place where you wait to die, I think some of you must be bitter that you are still here with your old useless selves, angry that you can't do the things you once could, don't worry guys not long now.[/p][/quote]It has nothing to do with age or gender. If it had been a 19 year old male, I suspect you would also be baying for blood.[/p][/quote]No I would not, why on earth would I want to see a 19 year old in jail ? How serious was the injury she caused, not how serious it could of been, I want to know how serious the actual injury was.[/p][/quote]Why should she be be in jail? ".......17 previous convictions for assault and battery,". Or what, in your world, constitutes being a danger to the public? Old Colonial
  • Score: 61

9:58am Tue 12 Aug 14

BH1 loyal says...

Old Colonial wrote:
BH1 loyal wrote:
Boscomite wrote:
BH1 loyal wrote:
Again I have to say it, you really are a sad bunch, why would you all want a 21 one year old female in jail ? If the offence warranted jail, that is where she would be, if she was unemployed you would have all blamed it on that, however she is employed, she is young, she has received her punishment and has a chance to live a good life, you are all the real life victor meldrews that originally got dorset it's reputation for being a boring place where you wait to die, I think some of you must be bitter that you are still here with your old useless selves, angry that you can't do the things you once could, don't worry guys not long now.
It has nothing to do with age or gender. If it had been a 19 year old male, I suspect you would also be baying for blood.
No I would not, why on earth would I want to see a 19 year old in jail ? How serious was the injury she caused, not how serious it could of been, I want to know how serious the actual injury was.
Why should she be be in jail? ".......17 previous convictions for assault and battery,". Or what, in your world, constitutes being a danger to the public?
Somebody who has caused serious injury, something we have no proof she has done.
[quote][p][bold]Old Colonial[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BH1 loyal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Boscomite[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BH1 loyal[/bold] wrote: Again I have to say it, you really are a sad bunch, why would you all want a 21 one year old female in jail ? If the offence warranted jail, that is where she would be, if she was unemployed you would have all blamed it on that, however she is employed, she is young, she has received her punishment and has a chance to live a good life, you are all the real life victor meldrews that originally got dorset it's reputation for being a boring place where you wait to die, I think some of you must be bitter that you are still here with your old useless selves, angry that you can't do the things you once could, don't worry guys not long now.[/p][/quote]It has nothing to do with age or gender. If it had been a 19 year old male, I suspect you would also be baying for blood.[/p][/quote]No I would not, why on earth would I want to see a 19 year old in jail ? How serious was the injury she caused, not how serious it could of been, I want to know how serious the actual injury was.[/p][/quote]Why should she be be in jail? ".......17 previous convictions for assault and battery,". Or what, in your world, constitutes being a danger to the public?[/p][/quote]Somebody who has caused serious injury, something we have no proof she has done. BH1 loyal
  • Score: -65

10:01am Tue 12 Aug 14

BH1 loyal says...

He suffered a cut to his lower eye lid, and you want jail ? Worse injuries are caused every day in play parks, I am. It saying what she did is right but we do not have the facts, you lot are just an easy audience to wind up for the echo.
He suffered a cut to his lower eye lid, and you want jail ? Worse injuries are caused every day in play parks, I am. It saying what she did is right but we do not have the facts, you lot are just an easy audience to wind up for the echo. BH1 loyal
  • Score: -71

10:02am Tue 12 Aug 14

BH1 loyal says...

Speedy where are you from ?
Speedy where are you from ? BH1 loyal
  • Score: -38

10:07am Tue 12 Aug 14

dicey halo says...

Any thought for the emotional damage she is inflicting on her victims let alone the physical scars. No excuse for this scum being allowed to mingle in society. She absolutely should of been locked up . How long before she loses it and kills someone. A glass in the face could easily end up in someones neck resulting in death. Could of easily blinded that guy too. As for palmer snell... we need a public statement saying this loon is gone. No way would I use them why she is still there.
Any thought for the emotional damage she is inflicting on her victims let alone the physical scars. No excuse for this scum being allowed to mingle in society. She absolutely should of been locked up . How long before she loses it and kills someone. A glass in the face could easily end up in someones neck resulting in death. Could of easily blinded that guy too. As for palmer snell... we need a public statement saying this loon is gone. No way would I use them why she is still there. dicey halo
  • Score: 46

10:11am Tue 12 Aug 14

Chief-Wiggum says...

The only mental illness here is not being able to handle her drink! I wonder how many assaults she has carried out whilst soba? She wont last the 2 years without doing it again... People like this shouldn't be allowed near bars, poor victim having a night out and gets glassed because someone has a disorder?! Fair
The only mental illness here is not being able to handle her drink! I wonder how many assaults she has carried out whilst soba? She wont last the 2 years without doing it again... People like this shouldn't be allowed near bars, poor victim having a night out and gets glassed because someone has a disorder?! Fair Chief-Wiggum
  • Score: 42

10:29am Tue 12 Aug 14

speedy231278 says...

BH1 loyal wrote:
Old Colonial wrote:
BH1 loyal wrote:
Boscomite wrote:
BH1 loyal wrote:
Again I have to say it, you really are a sad bunch, why would you all want a 21 one year old female in jail ? If the offence warranted jail, that is where she would be, if she was unemployed you would have all blamed it on that, however she is employed, she is young, she has received her punishment and has a chance to live a good life, you are all the real life victor meldrews that originally got dorset it's reputation for being a boring place where you wait to die, I think some of you must be bitter that you are still here with your old useless selves, angry that you can't do the things you once could, don't worry guys not long now.
It has nothing to do with age or gender. If it had been a 19 year old male, I suspect you would also be baying for blood.
No I would not, why on earth would I want to see a 19 year old in jail ? How serious was the injury she caused, not how serious it could of been, I want to know how serious the actual injury was.
Why should she be be in jail? ".......17 previous convictions for assault and battery,". Or what, in your world, constitutes being a danger to the public?
Somebody who has caused serious injury, something we have no proof she has done.
So, smashing a glass into someone's face doesn't constitute a serious injury when they are left bleeding and with glass in their skin.

Perhaps you are a relative of this cretin? You certainly seem to think that multiple convictions for assault are trivia!
[quote][p][bold]BH1 loyal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Old Colonial[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BH1 loyal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Boscomite[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BH1 loyal[/bold] wrote: Again I have to say it, you really are a sad bunch, why would you all want a 21 one year old female in jail ? If the offence warranted jail, that is where she would be, if she was unemployed you would have all blamed it on that, however she is employed, she is young, she has received her punishment and has a chance to live a good life, you are all the real life victor meldrews that originally got dorset it's reputation for being a boring place where you wait to die, I think some of you must be bitter that you are still here with your old useless selves, angry that you can't do the things you once could, don't worry guys not long now.[/p][/quote]It has nothing to do with age or gender. If it had been a 19 year old male, I suspect you would also be baying for blood.[/p][/quote]No I would not, why on earth would I want to see a 19 year old in jail ? How serious was the injury she caused, not how serious it could of been, I want to know how serious the actual injury was.[/p][/quote]Why should she be be in jail? ".......17 previous convictions for assault and battery,". Or what, in your world, constitutes being a danger to the public?[/p][/quote]Somebody who has caused serious injury, something we have no proof she has done.[/p][/quote]So, smashing a glass into someone's face doesn't constitute a serious injury when they are left bleeding and with glass in their skin. Perhaps you are a relative of this cretin? You certainly seem to think that multiple convictions for assault are trivia! speedy231278
  • Score: 69

10:38am Tue 12 Aug 14

MrPitiful says...

Right or wrong, jail or not etc. the argument can go on.

What she needs to bear in mind though is that one of these days her luck will run out and she will pick on the wrong person.
Right or wrong, jail or not etc. the argument can go on. What she needs to bear in mind though is that one of these days her luck will run out and she will pick on the wrong person. MrPitiful
  • Score: 46

10:40am Tue 12 Aug 14

Kiki1973 says...

IMHO, any --*ANY*-- assault deserves incarceration. It's not part of civilised society, and if you can't exercise control, the rest of us who do have some semblenace of self control and maturity don't want you around us. No-one has the right to hurt anyone else, no matter what. Vioelence like this stems from one of very few places; mental health issues (in which case, psych help is required, potentially as an in-patient), not being taught how to behave in a civilised society or just not giving a **** (and for the last two, incarceration is the answer so that they can be taught whilst away from the rest of the public). if rehabilitation isn't a possiblity, then being removed from society is the only option, either on medical grounds or legal ones.
IMHO, any --*ANY*-- assault deserves incarceration. It's not part of civilised society, and if you can't exercise control, the rest of us who do have some semblenace of self control and maturity don't want you around us. No-one has the right to hurt anyone else, no matter what. Vioelence like this stems from one of very few places; mental health issues (in which case, psych help is required, potentially as an in-patient), not being taught how to behave in a civilised society or just not giving a **** (and for the last two, incarceration is the answer so that they can be taught whilst away from the rest of the public). if rehabilitation isn't a possiblity, then being removed from society is the only option, either on medical grounds or legal ones. Kiki1973
  • Score: 35

10:51am Tue 12 Aug 14

BarrHumbug says...

Judging by her past I really can't see her going two years without kicking off again? Fine her last conviction may have been 4 years ago but how many times since then has she been in violent confrontations that didn't get the law involved?
She has been very lucky to be let off so leniently, I just hope the next time she is in front of the judge he makes good his promise and she is made to serve the full term of the sentence she is given?
Judging by her past I really can't see her going two years without kicking off again? Fine her last conviction may have been 4 years ago but how many times since then has she been in violent confrontations that didn't get the law involved? She has been very lucky to be let off so leniently, I just hope the next time she is in front of the judge he makes good his promise and she is made to serve the full term of the sentence she is given? BarrHumbug
  • Score: 35

11:06am Tue 12 Aug 14

Nickydoonah says...

When she gets her next job pity help anyone who refuses to buy a big issue from her in Boscombe high street.
you know it is.
When she gets her next job pity help anyone who refuses to buy a big issue from her in Boscombe high street. you know it is. Nickydoonah
  • Score: 30

11:07am Tue 12 Aug 14

new2it says...

Already convictions for violence, and yet still allowed to be free to cause more harm to innocent people. Doesn't make sense, she should be locked up in a secure place until she has finally managed to control her temper, if she ever does. It's not right that others should be subjected to her behaviour.
Already convictions for violence, and yet still allowed to be free to cause more harm to innocent people. Doesn't make sense, she should be locked up in a secure place until she has finally managed to control her temper, if she ever does. It's not right that others should be subjected to her behaviour. new2it
  • Score: 40

11:09am Tue 12 Aug 14

speedy231278 says...

Meanwhile, granny wobbly who cannot afford her council tax this month due to all the cuts in benefits by the ConDems will probably be locked up over the matter of a few quid.... figures.
Meanwhile, granny wobbly who cannot afford her council tax this month due to all the cuts in benefits by the ConDems will probably be locked up over the matter of a few quid.... figures. speedy231278
  • Score: 28

11:14am Tue 12 Aug 14

Gingertree says...

So the advice is Do not buy or sell your house through Palmer Snell then
So the advice is Do not buy or sell your house through Palmer Snell then Gingertree
  • Score: 33

11:15am Tue 12 Aug 14

bogtrotter says...

This is bordering on comedy. How many times can you get away with it? The judge is simply implying that she needs to do more serious damage to go down. Only a matter of time judging by the history mentioned. What a joke.
This is bordering on comedy. How many times can you get away with it? The judge is simply implying that she needs to do more serious damage to go down. Only a matter of time judging by the history mentioned. What a joke. bogtrotter
  • Score: 40

11:26am Tue 12 Aug 14

bobthedestroyer says...

bogtrotter wrote:
This is bordering on comedy. How many times can you get away with it? The judge is simply implying that she needs to do more serious damage to go down. Only a matter of time judging by the history mentioned. What a joke.
If she does inflict damage again can the victim sue the judge who let her walk?
[quote][p][bold]bogtrotter[/bold] wrote: This is bordering on comedy. How many times can you get away with it? The judge is simply implying that she needs to do more serious damage to go down. Only a matter of time judging by the history mentioned. What a joke.[/p][/quote]If she does inflict damage again can the victim sue the judge who let her walk? bobthedestroyer
  • Score: 26

11:40am Tue 12 Aug 14

Boscombe92 says...

After reading this article I was left with a sick feeling in my stomach, and after reading some of the comments i was left truly horrified. How is it that this atrocious local newspaper is allowed to continue on its path to self destruction? Ill start my rant with some veiws on this front page article. Whoever wrote this article has had one thing in mind - to create fear and animosity toward the towns' younger generations, which is of course, exactly what it has done, (as proved by the comments above). Now after reading the article i'm a little confused as to why the headline focuses so heavily on the fact Miss Thomas has been spared jail, there is of course the '17' previous convictions (no details provided), but these are all over 4 years ago, meaning Miss Thomas would have been 17 or under for everyone of these, (or a child). Now most children that have records like that have not been brought up in a supportive caring family home, they are much more likely to have been brought up in care, by strangers, something that would only push a teenager to this type of crime. However, with this individual, since the age of 17, she has not committed any offence, despite every statistic suggesting she would. Instead, she has started a career in a respectable business, gaining experience that will help her throughout life, no doubt becoming self-sufficient, not living her life off the state (something this paper also loathes). So surely a prion sentence isn't going to help Miss Thomas at this stage of her life? Granted in February of this year, in unclear circumstances Miss Thomas has assaulted someone in a Bournemouth bar. This is unacceptable and deserves a punishment, which it has (80hrs unpaid community work, and fines of £1100 AND a suspended 12 month sentence). Surely this should be a logical punishment, given the offender has clearly improved her life massively since her last offence and may be on the way to a successful career, OR that if she as much as steals a newspaper she'll be sent to prison immediately. But no! The Echo would rather have us commenting on the horrors that may result from this employed, 21 year old girl may bring to the town, if she is not locked up behind bars, in a prison that only makes criminals worse, so she can be released and become one of the 58% of offenders that are sent back to prison within a year of being set free.

Maybe the award winning Bournemouth Echo could serve the town better by investigating and reporting on the many scandals that happen daily in our town hall between our elected Councillors and the towns corrupt businessmen. I can only assume the paper is edited or owned by one of these two types of evil in our town, which is why their crimes go unreported.

So please, readers, editors and owners of this paper, stop bullying individuals, think about how Miss Thomas will feel walking down the street of her hometown today, or any day in the future. Remember we are all human and capable of wrongdoing, none of us can say we've never done something we never imagined we could. How would you like your wrongdoings plastered all over the local newspaper? She's a 21 year old girl. Shame on you Bournemouth Echo.
After reading this article I was left with a sick feeling in my stomach, and after reading some of the comments i was left truly horrified. How is it that this atrocious local newspaper is allowed to continue on its path to self destruction? Ill start my rant with some veiws on this front page article. Whoever wrote this article has had one thing in mind - to create fear and animosity toward the towns' younger generations, which is of course, exactly what it has done, (as proved by the comments above). Now after reading the article i'm a little confused as to why the headline focuses so heavily on the fact Miss Thomas has been spared jail, there is of course the '17' previous convictions (no details provided), but these are all over 4 years ago, meaning Miss Thomas would have been 17 or under for everyone of these, (or a child). Now most children that have records like that have not been brought up in a supportive caring family home, they are much more likely to have been brought up in care, by strangers, something that would only push a teenager to this type of crime. However, with this individual, since the age of 17, she has not committed any offence, despite every statistic suggesting she would. Instead, she has started a career in a respectable business, gaining experience that will help her throughout life, no doubt becoming self-sufficient, not living her life off the state (something this paper also loathes). So surely a prion sentence isn't going to help Miss Thomas at this stage of her life? Granted in February of this year, in unclear circumstances Miss Thomas has assaulted someone in a Bournemouth bar. This is unacceptable and deserves a punishment, which it has (80hrs unpaid community work, and fines of £1100 AND a suspended 12 month sentence). Surely this should be a logical punishment, given the offender has clearly improved her life massively since her last offence and may be on the way to a successful career, OR that if she as much as steals a newspaper she'll be sent to prison immediately. But no! The Echo would rather have us commenting on the horrors that may result from this employed, 21 year old girl may bring to the town, if she is not locked up behind bars, in a prison that only makes criminals worse, so she can be released and become one of the 58% of offenders that are sent back to prison within a year of being set free. Maybe the award winning Bournemouth Echo could serve the town better by investigating and reporting on the many scandals that happen daily in our town hall between our elected Councillors and the towns corrupt businessmen. I can only assume the paper is edited or owned by one of these two types of evil in our town, which is why their crimes go unreported. So please, readers, editors and owners of this paper, stop bullying individuals, think about how Miss Thomas will feel walking down the street of her hometown today, or any day in the future. Remember we are all human and capable of wrongdoing, none of us can say we've never done something we never imagined we could. How would you like your wrongdoings plastered all over the local newspaper? She's a 21 year old girl. Shame on you Bournemouth Echo. Boscombe92
  • Score: -72

11:55am Tue 12 Aug 14

bomo2015+ says...

BIGTONE wrote:
Describing her record as “breathtaking”, Judge Harrow handed Thomas, who had pleaded guilty, to a 12-month suspended sentence.


It won't be long before it will be "lifetaking" instead.
Very lucky she hasn't done that already.
She should be banged up in a secure mental unit for her own good as well as the public.

No lesson has been learnt here.
Amazing.
[quote][p][bold]BIGTONE[/bold] wrote: Describing her record as “breathtaking”, Judge Harrow handed Thomas, who had pleaded guilty, to a 12-month suspended sentence. It won't be long before it will be "lifetaking" instead. Very lucky she hasn't done that already. She should be banged up in a secure mental unit for her own good as well as the public. No lesson has been learnt here.[/p][/quote]Amazing. bomo2015+
  • Score: 12

12:01pm Tue 12 Aug 14

retry69 says...

Boscombe92 wrote:
After reading this article I was left with a sick feeling in my stomach, and after reading some of the comments i was left truly horrified. How is it that this atrocious local newspaper is allowed to continue on its path to self destruction? Ill start my rant with some veiws on this front page article. Whoever wrote this article has had one thing in mind - to create fear and animosity toward the towns' younger generations, which is of course, exactly what it has done, (as proved by the comments above). Now after reading the article i'm a little confused as to why the headline focuses so heavily on the fact Miss Thomas has been spared jail, there is of course the '17' previous convictions (no details provided), but these are all over 4 years ago, meaning Miss Thomas would have been 17 or under for everyone of these, (or a child). Now most children that have records like that have not been brought up in a supportive caring family home, they are much more likely to have been brought up in care, by strangers, something that would only push a teenager to this type of crime. However, with this individual, since the age of 17, she has not committed any offence, despite every statistic suggesting she would. Instead, she has started a career in a respectable business, gaining experience that will help her throughout life, no doubt becoming self-sufficient, not living her life off the state (something this paper also loathes). So surely a prion sentence isn't going to help Miss Thomas at this stage of her life? Granted in February of this year, in unclear circumstances Miss Thomas has assaulted someone in a Bournemouth bar. This is unacceptable and deserves a punishment, which it has (80hrs unpaid community work, and fines of £1100 AND a suspended 12 month sentence). Surely this should be a logical punishment, given the offender has clearly improved her life massively since her last offence and may be on the way to a successful career, OR that if she as much as steals a newspaper she'll be sent to prison immediately. But no! The Echo would rather have us commenting on the horrors that may result from this employed, 21 year old girl may bring to the town, if she is not locked up behind bars, in a prison that only makes criminals worse, so she can be released and become one of the 58% of offenders that are sent back to prison within a year of being set free.

Maybe the award winning Bournemouth Echo could serve the town better by investigating and reporting on the many scandals that happen daily in our town hall between our elected Councillors and the towns corrupt businessmen. I can only assume the paper is edited or owned by one of these two types of evil in our town, which is why their crimes go unreported.

So please, readers, editors and owners of this paper, stop bullying individuals, think about how Miss Thomas will feel walking down the street of her hometown today, or any day in the future. Remember we are all human and capable of wrongdoing, none of us can say we've never done something we never imagined we could. How would you like your wrongdoings plastered all over the local newspaper? She's a 21 year old girl. Shame on you Bournemouth Echo.
Fantastic! A short documentary with hidden agendas,take the keyboard away and lock the fecking door
[quote][p][bold]Boscombe92[/bold] wrote: After reading this article I was left with a sick feeling in my stomach, and after reading some of the comments i was left truly horrified. How is it that this atrocious local newspaper is allowed to continue on its path to self destruction? Ill start my rant with some veiws on this front page article. Whoever wrote this article has had one thing in mind - to create fear and animosity toward the towns' younger generations, which is of course, exactly what it has done, (as proved by the comments above). Now after reading the article i'm a little confused as to why the headline focuses so heavily on the fact Miss Thomas has been spared jail, there is of course the '17' previous convictions (no details provided), but these are all over 4 years ago, meaning Miss Thomas would have been 17 or under for everyone of these, (or a child). Now most children that have records like that have not been brought up in a supportive caring family home, they are much more likely to have been brought up in care, by strangers, something that would only push a teenager to this type of crime. However, with this individual, since the age of 17, she has not committed any offence, despite every statistic suggesting she would. Instead, she has started a career in a respectable business, gaining experience that will help her throughout life, no doubt becoming self-sufficient, not living her life off the state (something this paper also loathes). So surely a prion sentence isn't going to help Miss Thomas at this stage of her life? Granted in February of this year, in unclear circumstances Miss Thomas has assaulted someone in a Bournemouth bar. This is unacceptable and deserves a punishment, which it has (80hrs unpaid community work, and fines of £1100 AND a suspended 12 month sentence). Surely this should be a logical punishment, given the offender has clearly improved her life massively since her last offence and may be on the way to a successful career, OR that if she as much as steals a newspaper she'll be sent to prison immediately. But no! The Echo would rather have us commenting on the horrors that may result from this employed, 21 year old girl may bring to the town, if she is not locked up behind bars, in a prison that only makes criminals worse, so she can be released and become one of the 58% of offenders that are sent back to prison within a year of being set free. Maybe the award winning Bournemouth Echo could serve the town better by investigating and reporting on the many scandals that happen daily in our town hall between our elected Councillors and the towns corrupt businessmen. I can only assume the paper is edited or owned by one of these two types of evil in our town, which is why their crimes go unreported. So please, readers, editors and owners of this paper, stop bullying individuals, think about how Miss Thomas will feel walking down the street of her hometown today, or any day in the future. Remember we are all human and capable of wrongdoing, none of us can say we've never done something we never imagined we could. How would you like your wrongdoings plastered all over the local newspaper? She's a 21 year old girl. Shame on you Bournemouth Echo.[/p][/quote]Fantastic! A short documentary with hidden agendas,take the keyboard away and lock the fecking door retry69
  • Score: 53

12:02pm Tue 12 Aug 14

new2it says...

Boscombe92 wrote:
After reading this article I was left with a sick feeling in my stomach, and after reading some of the comments i was left truly horrified. How is it that this atrocious local newspaper is allowed to continue on its path to self destruction? Ill start my rant with some veiws on this front page article. Whoever wrote this article has had one thing in mind - to create fear and animosity toward the towns' younger generations, which is of course, exactly what it has done, (as proved by the comments above). Now after reading the article i'm a little confused as to why the headline focuses so heavily on the fact Miss Thomas has been spared jail, there is of course the '17' previous convictions (no details provided), but these are all over 4 years ago, meaning Miss Thomas would have been 17 or under for everyone of these, (or a child). Now most children that have records like that have not been brought up in a supportive caring family home, they are much more likely to have been brought up in care, by strangers, something that would only push a teenager to this type of crime. However, with this individual, since the age of 17, she has not committed any offence, despite every statistic suggesting she would. Instead, she has started a career in a respectable business, gaining experience that will help her throughout life, no doubt becoming self-sufficient, not living her life off the state (something this paper also loathes). So surely a prion sentence isn't going to help Miss Thomas at this stage of her life? Granted in February of this year, in unclear circumstances Miss Thomas has assaulted someone in a Bournemouth bar. This is unacceptable and deserves a punishment, which it has (80hrs unpaid community work, and fines of £1100 AND a suspended 12 month sentence). Surely this should be a logical punishment, given the offender has clearly improved her life massively since her last offence and may be on the way to a successful career, OR that if she as much as steals a newspaper she'll be sent to prison immediately. But no! The Echo would rather have us commenting on the horrors that may result from this employed, 21 year old girl may bring to the town, if she is not locked up behind bars, in a prison that only makes criminals worse, so she can be released and become one of the 58% of offenders that are sent back to prison within a year of being set free.

Maybe the award winning Bournemouth Echo could serve the town better by investigating and reporting on the many scandals that happen daily in our town hall between our elected Councillors and the towns corrupt businessmen. I can only assume the paper is edited or owned by one of these two types of evil in our town, which is why their crimes go unreported.

So please, readers, editors and owners of this paper, stop bullying individuals, think about how Miss Thomas will feel walking down the street of her hometown today, or any day in the future. Remember we are all human and capable of wrongdoing, none of us can say we've never done something we never imagined we could. How would you like your wrongdoings plastered all over the local newspaper? She's a 21 year old girl. Shame on you Bournemouth Echo.
So it's ok then for her to be in a position to put others in danger of her instability. I worry about youngsters who may be in her path, including 3 of my grandchildren and their friends who are all of an age to possibly in her way. I know there are always hazzards around, but when it has been identified surely she should be kept away from being able to do the same thing again. It's a bit like playing Russian Roulette.
[quote][p][bold]Boscombe92[/bold] wrote: After reading this article I was left with a sick feeling in my stomach, and after reading some of the comments i was left truly horrified. How is it that this atrocious local newspaper is allowed to continue on its path to self destruction? Ill start my rant with some veiws on this front page article. Whoever wrote this article has had one thing in mind - to create fear and animosity toward the towns' younger generations, which is of course, exactly what it has done, (as proved by the comments above). Now after reading the article i'm a little confused as to why the headline focuses so heavily on the fact Miss Thomas has been spared jail, there is of course the '17' previous convictions (no details provided), but these are all over 4 years ago, meaning Miss Thomas would have been 17 or under for everyone of these, (or a child). Now most children that have records like that have not been brought up in a supportive caring family home, they are much more likely to have been brought up in care, by strangers, something that would only push a teenager to this type of crime. However, with this individual, since the age of 17, she has not committed any offence, despite every statistic suggesting she would. Instead, she has started a career in a respectable business, gaining experience that will help her throughout life, no doubt becoming self-sufficient, not living her life off the state (something this paper also loathes). So surely a prion sentence isn't going to help Miss Thomas at this stage of her life? Granted in February of this year, in unclear circumstances Miss Thomas has assaulted someone in a Bournemouth bar. This is unacceptable and deserves a punishment, which it has (80hrs unpaid community work, and fines of £1100 AND a suspended 12 month sentence). Surely this should be a logical punishment, given the offender has clearly improved her life massively since her last offence and may be on the way to a successful career, OR that if she as much as steals a newspaper she'll be sent to prison immediately. But no! The Echo would rather have us commenting on the horrors that may result from this employed, 21 year old girl may bring to the town, if she is not locked up behind bars, in a prison that only makes criminals worse, so she can be released and become one of the 58% of offenders that are sent back to prison within a year of being set free. Maybe the award winning Bournemouth Echo could serve the town better by investigating and reporting on the many scandals that happen daily in our town hall between our elected Councillors and the towns corrupt businessmen. I can only assume the paper is edited or owned by one of these two types of evil in our town, which is why their crimes go unreported. So please, readers, editors and owners of this paper, stop bullying individuals, think about how Miss Thomas will feel walking down the street of her hometown today, or any day in the future. Remember we are all human and capable of wrongdoing, none of us can say we've never done something we never imagined we could. How would you like your wrongdoings plastered all over the local newspaper? She's a 21 year old girl. Shame on you Bournemouth Echo.[/p][/quote]So it's ok then for her to be in a position to put others in danger of her instability. I worry about youngsters who may be in her path, including 3 of my grandchildren and their friends who are all of an age to possibly in her way. I know there are always hazzards around, but when it has been identified surely she should be kept away from being able to do the same thing again. It's a bit like playing Russian Roulette. new2it
  • Score: 43

12:02pm Tue 12 Aug 14

bomo2015+ says...

What I find strange here is that the Venue have got off this, as much as I hate to say it the V club lost its License for a slashing with a model Knife, but they did everything to stop this sort of thing like having Polycarbonate glasses, seems to me that the scales of justice were against V wonder why!
What I find strange here is that the Venue have got off this, as much as I hate to say it the V club lost its License for a slashing with a model Knife, but they did everything to stop this sort of thing like having Polycarbonate glasses, seems to me that the scales of justice were against V wonder why! bomo2015+
  • Score: 2

12:06pm Tue 12 Aug 14

ruggerlad says...

Boscombe92 wrote:
After reading this article I was left with a sick feeling in my stomach, and after reading some of the comments i was left truly horrified. How is it that this atrocious local newspaper is allowed to continue on its path to self destruction? Ill start my rant with some veiws on this front page article. Whoever wrote this article has had one thing in mind - to create fear and animosity toward the towns' younger generations, which is of course, exactly what it has done, (as proved by the comments above). Now after reading the article i'm a little confused as to why the headline focuses so heavily on the fact Miss Thomas has been spared jail, there is of course the '17' previous convictions (no details provided), but these are all over 4 years ago, meaning Miss Thomas would have been 17 or under for everyone of these, (or a child). Now most children that have records like that have not been brought up in a supportive caring family home, they are much more likely to have been brought up in care, by strangers, something that would only push a teenager to this type of crime. However, with this individual, since the age of 17, she has not committed any offence, despite every statistic suggesting she would. Instead, she has started a career in a respectable business, gaining experience that will help her throughout life, no doubt becoming self-sufficient, not living her life off the state (something this paper also loathes). So surely a prion sentence isn't going to help Miss Thomas at this stage of her life? Granted in February of this year, in unclear circumstances Miss Thomas has assaulted someone in a Bournemouth bar. This is unacceptable and deserves a punishment, which it has (80hrs unpaid community work, and fines of £1100 AND a suspended 12 month sentence). Surely this should be a logical punishment, given the offender has clearly improved her life massively since her last offence and may be on the way to a successful career, OR that if she as much as steals a newspaper she'll be sent to prison immediately. But no! The Echo would rather have us commenting on the horrors that may result from this employed, 21 year old girl may bring to the town, if she is not locked up behind bars, in a prison that only makes criminals worse, so she can be released and become one of the 58% of offenders that are sent back to prison within a year of being set free.

Maybe the award winning Bournemouth Echo could serve the town better by investigating and reporting on the many scandals that happen daily in our town hall between our elected Councillors and the towns corrupt businessmen. I can only assume the paper is edited or owned by one of these two types of evil in our town, which is why their crimes go unreported.

So please, readers, editors and owners of this paper, stop bullying individuals, think about how Miss Thomas will feel walking down the street of her hometown today, or any day in the future. Remember we are all human and capable of wrongdoing, none of us can say we've never done something we never imagined we could. How would you like your wrongdoings plastered all over the local newspaper? She's a 21 year old girl. Shame on you Bournemouth Echo.
Very Much agreed....Prior to age 18 offenses are dealt with in a different way, and all credit to this young lady trying to move on, obviously she still has issues, and has been given punishment accordingly. She would have been advised at court that any further offense will land her in prison. Lets leave her alone now,

I am sure having her face and name spread across a newspaper and idiots casting judgement is bad enough !
[quote][p][bold]Boscombe92[/bold] wrote: After reading this article I was left with a sick feeling in my stomach, and after reading some of the comments i was left truly horrified. How is it that this atrocious local newspaper is allowed to continue on its path to self destruction? Ill start my rant with some veiws on this front page article. Whoever wrote this article has had one thing in mind - to create fear and animosity toward the towns' younger generations, which is of course, exactly what it has done, (as proved by the comments above). Now after reading the article i'm a little confused as to why the headline focuses so heavily on the fact Miss Thomas has been spared jail, there is of course the '17' previous convictions (no details provided), but these are all over 4 years ago, meaning Miss Thomas would have been 17 or under for everyone of these, (or a child). Now most children that have records like that have not been brought up in a supportive caring family home, they are much more likely to have been brought up in care, by strangers, something that would only push a teenager to this type of crime. However, with this individual, since the age of 17, she has not committed any offence, despite every statistic suggesting she would. Instead, she has started a career in a respectable business, gaining experience that will help her throughout life, no doubt becoming self-sufficient, not living her life off the state (something this paper also loathes). So surely a prion sentence isn't going to help Miss Thomas at this stage of her life? Granted in February of this year, in unclear circumstances Miss Thomas has assaulted someone in a Bournemouth bar. This is unacceptable and deserves a punishment, which it has (80hrs unpaid community work, and fines of £1100 AND a suspended 12 month sentence). Surely this should be a logical punishment, given the offender has clearly improved her life massively since her last offence and may be on the way to a successful career, OR that if she as much as steals a newspaper she'll be sent to prison immediately. But no! The Echo would rather have us commenting on the horrors that may result from this employed, 21 year old girl may bring to the town, if she is not locked up behind bars, in a prison that only makes criminals worse, so she can be released and become one of the 58% of offenders that are sent back to prison within a year of being set free. Maybe the award winning Bournemouth Echo could serve the town better by investigating and reporting on the many scandals that happen daily in our town hall between our elected Councillors and the towns corrupt businessmen. I can only assume the paper is edited or owned by one of these two types of evil in our town, which is why their crimes go unreported. So please, readers, editors and owners of this paper, stop bullying individuals, think about how Miss Thomas will feel walking down the street of her hometown today, or any day in the future. Remember we are all human and capable of wrongdoing, none of us can say we've never done something we never imagined we could. How would you like your wrongdoings plastered all over the local newspaper? She's a 21 year old girl. Shame on you Bournemouth Echo.[/p][/quote]Very Much agreed....Prior to age 18 offenses are dealt with in a different way, and all credit to this young lady trying to move on, obviously she still has issues, and has been given punishment accordingly. She would have been advised at court that any further offense will land her in prison. Lets leave her alone now, I am sure having her face and name spread across a newspaper and idiots casting judgement is bad enough ! ruggerlad
  • Score: -50

12:13pm Tue 12 Aug 14

retry69 says...

Well at least we know where she is today! Causing chaos on the A338 :)
Well at least we know where she is today! Causing chaos on the A338 :) retry69
  • Score: 34

12:15pm Tue 12 Aug 14

Boscombe92 says...

new2it wrote:
Boscombe92 wrote:
After reading this article I was left with a sick feeling in my stomach, and after reading some of the comments i was left truly horrified. How is it that this atrocious local newspaper is allowed to continue on its path to self destruction? Ill start my rant with some veiws on this front page article. Whoever wrote this article has had one thing in mind - to create fear and animosity toward the towns' younger generations, which is of course, exactly what it has done, (as proved by the comments above). Now after reading the article i'm a little confused as to why the headline focuses so heavily on the fact Miss Thomas has been spared jail, there is of course the '17' previous convictions (no details provided), but these are all over 4 years ago, meaning Miss Thomas would have been 17 or under for everyone of these, (or a child). Now most children that have records like that have not been brought up in a supportive caring family home, they are much more likely to have been brought up in care, by strangers, something that would only push a teenager to this type of crime. However, with this individual, since the age of 17, she has not committed any offence, despite every statistic suggesting she would. Instead, she has started a career in a respectable business, gaining experience that will help her throughout life, no doubt becoming self-sufficient, not living her life off the state (something this paper also loathes). So surely a prion sentence isn't going to help Miss Thomas at this stage of her life? Granted in February of this year, in unclear circumstances Miss Thomas has assaulted someone in a Bournemouth bar. This is unacceptable and deserves a punishment, which it has (80hrs unpaid community work, and fines of £1100 AND a suspended 12 month sentence). Surely this should be a logical punishment, given the offender has clearly improved her life massively since her last offence and may be on the way to a successful career, OR that if she as much as steals a newspaper she'll be sent to prison immediately. But no! The Echo would rather have us commenting on the horrors that may result from this employed, 21 year old girl may bring to the town, if she is not locked up behind bars, in a prison that only makes criminals worse, so she can be released and become one of the 58% of offenders that are sent back to prison within a year of being set free.

Maybe the award winning Bournemouth Echo could serve the town better by investigating and reporting on the many scandals that happen daily in our town hall between our elected Councillors and the towns corrupt businessmen. I can only assume the paper is edited or owned by one of these two types of evil in our town, which is why their crimes go unreported.

So please, readers, editors and owners of this paper, stop bullying individuals, think about how Miss Thomas will feel walking down the street of her hometown today, or any day in the future. Remember we are all human and capable of wrongdoing, none of us can say we've never done something we never imagined we could. How would you like your wrongdoings plastered all over the local newspaper? She's a 21 year old girl. Shame on you Bournemouth Echo.
So it's ok then for her to be in a position to put others in danger of her instability. I worry about youngsters who may be in her path, including 3 of my grandchildren and their friends who are all of an age to possibly in her way. I know there are always hazzards around, but when it has been identified surely she should be kept away from being able to do the same thing again. It's a bit like playing Russian Roulette.
As mentioned in the article Miss Thomas is getting treatment for her 'instabilities'. It is not mentioned in the article but I am sure there will be a night time ban of the town center for Miss Thomas, which would prevent the exact event happening again. If you could not tell by my comment, my problem is not with the punishment, (although i think it is suitable) it is with the fact this girls pictures has been put onto the front page of the Echo with a full story demonizing her. Incidents like these happen daily, It is only because a reporter happened to hear a few points, that she knew would cause a stir on here, that this story made the press. Alcohol and themselves is what will be your grandchildrens biggest danger, not 21 year old girls.
[quote][p][bold]new2it[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Boscombe92[/bold] wrote: After reading this article I was left with a sick feeling in my stomach, and after reading some of the comments i was left truly horrified. How is it that this atrocious local newspaper is allowed to continue on its path to self destruction? Ill start my rant with some veiws on this front page article. Whoever wrote this article has had one thing in mind - to create fear and animosity toward the towns' younger generations, which is of course, exactly what it has done, (as proved by the comments above). Now after reading the article i'm a little confused as to why the headline focuses so heavily on the fact Miss Thomas has been spared jail, there is of course the '17' previous convictions (no details provided), but these are all over 4 years ago, meaning Miss Thomas would have been 17 or under for everyone of these, (or a child). Now most children that have records like that have not been brought up in a supportive caring family home, they are much more likely to have been brought up in care, by strangers, something that would only push a teenager to this type of crime. However, with this individual, since the age of 17, she has not committed any offence, despite every statistic suggesting she would. Instead, she has started a career in a respectable business, gaining experience that will help her throughout life, no doubt becoming self-sufficient, not living her life off the state (something this paper also loathes). So surely a prion sentence isn't going to help Miss Thomas at this stage of her life? Granted in February of this year, in unclear circumstances Miss Thomas has assaulted someone in a Bournemouth bar. This is unacceptable and deserves a punishment, which it has (80hrs unpaid community work, and fines of £1100 AND a suspended 12 month sentence). Surely this should be a logical punishment, given the offender has clearly improved her life massively since her last offence and may be on the way to a successful career, OR that if she as much as steals a newspaper she'll be sent to prison immediately. But no! The Echo would rather have us commenting on the horrors that may result from this employed, 21 year old girl may bring to the town, if she is not locked up behind bars, in a prison that only makes criminals worse, so she can be released and become one of the 58% of offenders that are sent back to prison within a year of being set free. Maybe the award winning Bournemouth Echo could serve the town better by investigating and reporting on the many scandals that happen daily in our town hall between our elected Councillors and the towns corrupt businessmen. I can only assume the paper is edited or owned by one of these two types of evil in our town, which is why their crimes go unreported. So please, readers, editors and owners of this paper, stop bullying individuals, think about how Miss Thomas will feel walking down the street of her hometown today, or any day in the future. Remember we are all human and capable of wrongdoing, none of us can say we've never done something we never imagined we could. How would you like your wrongdoings plastered all over the local newspaper? She's a 21 year old girl. Shame on you Bournemouth Echo.[/p][/quote]So it's ok then for her to be in a position to put others in danger of her instability. I worry about youngsters who may be in her path, including 3 of my grandchildren and their friends who are all of an age to possibly in her way. I know there are always hazzards around, but when it has been identified surely she should be kept away from being able to do the same thing again. It's a bit like playing Russian Roulette.[/p][/quote]As mentioned in the article Miss Thomas is getting treatment for her 'instabilities'. It is not mentioned in the article but I am sure there will be a night time ban of the town center for Miss Thomas, which would prevent the exact event happening again. If you could not tell by my comment, my problem is not with the punishment, (although i think it is suitable) it is with the fact this girls pictures has been put onto the front page of the Echo with a full story demonizing her. Incidents like these happen daily, It is only because a reporter happened to hear a few points, that she knew would cause a stir on here, that this story made the press. Alcohol and themselves is what will be your grandchildrens biggest danger, not 21 year old girls. Boscombe92
  • Score: -35

12:19pm Tue 12 Aug 14

rozmister says...

Some people commenting on this post clearly know nothing about mental health services & treatment. In patient therapy is notoriously hard to get, people don't get sectioned for one violent drunken action & only extremely dangerous prisoners are sentenced to secure mental health units.

The CAT therapy she's been referred for has a waiting list of 9 months - 1 year, in the meantime she'll have generic counselling & supervision. The NHS doesn't have the capacity to treat most people straight away unless they're really unwell and completely unable to function.

If you think she shouldn't be left wandering the streets with minimal supervision & treatment maybe you need to lobby your MP for additional mental health funding in Bournemouth instead of blaming the judge.
Some people commenting on this post clearly know nothing about mental health services & treatment. In patient therapy is notoriously hard to get, people don't get sectioned for one violent drunken action & only extremely dangerous prisoners are sentenced to secure mental health units. The CAT therapy she's been referred for has a waiting list of 9 months - 1 year, in the meantime she'll have generic counselling & supervision. The NHS doesn't have the capacity to treat most people straight away unless they're really unwell and completely unable to function. If you think she shouldn't be left wandering the streets with minimal supervision & treatment maybe you need to lobby your MP for additional mental health funding in Bournemouth instead of blaming the judge. rozmister
  • Score: 11

12:24pm Tue 12 Aug 14

rozmister says...

bomo2015+ wrote:
What I find strange here is that the Venue have got off this, as much as I hate to say it the V club lost its License for a slashing with a model Knife, but they did everything to stop this sort of thing like having Polycarbonate glasses, seems to me that the scales of justice were against V wonder why!
V were shut down for a whole host of offenses - failure to have a safe club & adequately trained staff, failure to report the incident to HSE, failure to cooperate with the council & allow them to inspect, dodgy ownership, I could go on.

If you run your club properly & take the recommended precautions incidents like this don't lose you your license. V didn't seem to realise that though because the people running it believed they were above the law.
[quote][p][bold]bomo2015+[/bold] wrote: What I find strange here is that the Venue have got off this, as much as I hate to say it the V club lost its License for a slashing with a model Knife, but they did everything to stop this sort of thing like having Polycarbonate glasses, seems to me that the scales of justice were against V wonder why![/p][/quote]V were shut down for a whole host of offenses - failure to have a safe club & adequately trained staff, failure to report the incident to HSE, failure to cooperate with the council & allow them to inspect, dodgy ownership, I could go on. If you run your club properly & take the recommended precautions incidents like this don't lose you your license. V didn't seem to realise that though because the people running it believed they were above the law. rozmister
  • Score: 6

12:31pm Tue 12 Aug 14

new2it says...

Boscombe92 wrote:
new2it wrote:
Boscombe92 wrote:
After reading this article I was left with a sick feeling in my stomach, and after reading some of the comments i was left truly horrified. How is it that this atrocious local newspaper is allowed to continue on its path to self destruction? Ill start my rant with some veiws on this front page article. Whoever wrote this article has had one thing in mind - to create fear and animosity toward the towns' younger generations, which is of course, exactly what it has done, (as proved by the comments above). Now after reading the article i'm a little confused as to why the headline focuses so heavily on the fact Miss Thomas has been spared jail, there is of course the '17' previous convictions (no details provided), but these are all over 4 years ago, meaning Miss Thomas would have been 17 or under for everyone of these, (or a child). Now most children that have records like that have not been brought up in a supportive caring family home, they are much more likely to have been brought up in care, by strangers, something that would only push a teenager to this type of crime. However, with this individual, since the age of 17, she has not committed any offence, despite every statistic suggesting she would. Instead, she has started a career in a respectable business, gaining experience that will help her throughout life, no doubt becoming self-sufficient, not living her life off the state (something this paper also loathes). So surely a prion sentence isn't going to help Miss Thomas at this stage of her life? Granted in February of this year, in unclear circumstances Miss Thomas has assaulted someone in a Bournemouth bar. This is unacceptable and deserves a punishment, which it has (80hrs unpaid community work, and fines of £1100 AND a suspended 12 month sentence). Surely this should be a logical punishment, given the offender has clearly improved her life massively since her last offence and may be on the way to a successful career, OR that if she as much as steals a newspaper she'll be sent to prison immediately. But no! The Echo would rather have us commenting on the horrors that may result from this employed, 21 year old girl may bring to the town, if she is not locked up behind bars, in a prison that only makes criminals worse, so she can be released and become one of the 58% of offenders that are sent back to prison within a year of being set free.

Maybe the award winning Bournemouth Echo could serve the town better by investigating and reporting on the many scandals that happen daily in our town hall between our elected Councillors and the towns corrupt businessmen. I can only assume the paper is edited or owned by one of these two types of evil in our town, which is why their crimes go unreported.

So please, readers, editors and owners of this paper, stop bullying individuals, think about how Miss Thomas will feel walking down the street of her hometown today, or any day in the future. Remember we are all human and capable of wrongdoing, none of us can say we've never done something we never imagined we could. How would you like your wrongdoings plastered all over the local newspaper? She's a 21 year old girl. Shame on you Bournemouth Echo.
So it's ok then for her to be in a position to put others in danger of her instability. I worry about youngsters who may be in her path, including 3 of my grandchildren and their friends who are all of an age to possibly in her way. I know there are always hazzards around, but when it has been identified surely she should be kept away from being able to do the same thing again. It's a bit like playing Russian Roulette.
As mentioned in the article Miss Thomas is getting treatment for her 'instabilities'. It is not mentioned in the article but I am sure there will be a night time ban of the town center for Miss Thomas, which would prevent the exact event happening again. If you could not tell by my comment, my problem is not with the punishment, (although i think it is suitable) it is with the fact this girls pictures has been put onto the front page of the Echo with a full story demonizing her. Incidents like these happen daily, It is only because a reporter happened to hear a few points, that she knew would cause a stir on here, that this story made the press. Alcohol and themselves is what will be your grandchildrens biggest danger, not 21 year old girls.
I agree to a certain extent, but the control of their alcoholic intake is ultimately up to them, but the possibility of having an unprovoked attack is not within their control. Incidents like this may happen every day and I'm sure they do, but even so, when it is known I still believe she should not be in a position to do this again, until she can really get control of herself. The victim was very lucky not to have been more seriously injured, and surely that is the most important thing.
[quote][p][bold]Boscombe92[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]new2it[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Boscombe92[/bold] wrote: After reading this article I was left with a sick feeling in my stomach, and after reading some of the comments i was left truly horrified. How is it that this atrocious local newspaper is allowed to continue on its path to self destruction? Ill start my rant with some veiws on this front page article. Whoever wrote this article has had one thing in mind - to create fear and animosity toward the towns' younger generations, which is of course, exactly what it has done, (as proved by the comments above). Now after reading the article i'm a little confused as to why the headline focuses so heavily on the fact Miss Thomas has been spared jail, there is of course the '17' previous convictions (no details provided), but these are all over 4 years ago, meaning Miss Thomas would have been 17 or under for everyone of these, (or a child). Now most children that have records like that have not been brought up in a supportive caring family home, they are much more likely to have been brought up in care, by strangers, something that would only push a teenager to this type of crime. However, with this individual, since the age of 17, she has not committed any offence, despite every statistic suggesting she would. Instead, she has started a career in a respectable business, gaining experience that will help her throughout life, no doubt becoming self-sufficient, not living her life off the state (something this paper also loathes). So surely a prion sentence isn't going to help Miss Thomas at this stage of her life? Granted in February of this year, in unclear circumstances Miss Thomas has assaulted someone in a Bournemouth bar. This is unacceptable and deserves a punishment, which it has (80hrs unpaid community work, and fines of £1100 AND a suspended 12 month sentence). Surely this should be a logical punishment, given the offender has clearly improved her life massively since her last offence and may be on the way to a successful career, OR that if she as much as steals a newspaper she'll be sent to prison immediately. But no! The Echo would rather have us commenting on the horrors that may result from this employed, 21 year old girl may bring to the town, if she is not locked up behind bars, in a prison that only makes criminals worse, so she can be released and become one of the 58% of offenders that are sent back to prison within a year of being set free. Maybe the award winning Bournemouth Echo could serve the town better by investigating and reporting on the many scandals that happen daily in our town hall between our elected Councillors and the towns corrupt businessmen. I can only assume the paper is edited or owned by one of these two types of evil in our town, which is why their crimes go unreported. So please, readers, editors and owners of this paper, stop bullying individuals, think about how Miss Thomas will feel walking down the street of her hometown today, or any day in the future. Remember we are all human and capable of wrongdoing, none of us can say we've never done something we never imagined we could. How would you like your wrongdoings plastered all over the local newspaper? She's a 21 year old girl. Shame on you Bournemouth Echo.[/p][/quote]So it's ok then for her to be in a position to put others in danger of her instability. I worry about youngsters who may be in her path, including 3 of my grandchildren and their friends who are all of an age to possibly in her way. I know there are always hazzards around, but when it has been identified surely she should be kept away from being able to do the same thing again. It's a bit like playing Russian Roulette.[/p][/quote]As mentioned in the article Miss Thomas is getting treatment for her 'instabilities'. It is not mentioned in the article but I am sure there will be a night time ban of the town center for Miss Thomas, which would prevent the exact event happening again. If you could not tell by my comment, my problem is not with the punishment, (although i think it is suitable) it is with the fact this girls pictures has been put onto the front page of the Echo with a full story demonizing her. Incidents like these happen daily, It is only because a reporter happened to hear a few points, that she knew would cause a stir on here, that this story made the press. Alcohol and themselves is what will be your grandchildrens biggest danger, not 21 year old girls.[/p][/quote]I agree to a certain extent, but the control of their alcoholic intake is ultimately up to them, but the possibility of having an unprovoked attack is not within their control. Incidents like this may happen every day and I'm sure they do, but even so, when it is known I still believe she should not be in a position to do this again, until she can really get control of herself. The victim was very lucky not to have been more seriously injured, and surely that is the most important thing. new2it
  • Score: 17

12:31pm Tue 12 Aug 14

bogtrotter says...

rozmister wrote:
Some people commenting on this post clearly know nothing about mental health services & treatment. In patient therapy is notoriously hard to get, people don't get sectioned for one violent drunken action & only extremely dangerous prisoners are sentenced to secure mental health units.

The CAT therapy she's been referred for has a waiting list of 9 months - 1 year, in the meantime she'll have generic counselling & supervision. The NHS doesn't have the capacity to treat most people straight away unless they're really unwell and completely unable to function.

If you think she shouldn't be left wandering the streets with minimal supervision & treatment maybe you need to lobby your MP for additional mental health funding in Bournemouth instead of blaming the judge.
Not sure that opinion can possibly be justified. She can have all the counselling she likes until she can be admitted to an institution that can get to the bottom of her alleged illness but until that point, whilst she remains a danger to innocent members of society, she should not be able to put herself in a situation where someone can get seriously hurt. A curfew would also help her avoid triggering the suspended sentence as well which would do her a favour. That is what a judge should be taking in to account when making these very debatable decisions.
[quote][p][bold]rozmister[/bold] wrote: Some people commenting on this post clearly know nothing about mental health services & treatment. In patient therapy is notoriously hard to get, people don't get sectioned for one violent drunken action & only extremely dangerous prisoners are sentenced to secure mental health units. The CAT therapy she's been referred for has a waiting list of 9 months - 1 year, in the meantime she'll have generic counselling & supervision. The NHS doesn't have the capacity to treat most people straight away unless they're really unwell and completely unable to function. If you think she shouldn't be left wandering the streets with minimal supervision & treatment maybe you need to lobby your MP for additional mental health funding in Bournemouth instead of blaming the judge.[/p][/quote]Not sure that opinion can possibly be justified. She can have all the counselling she likes until she can be admitted to an institution that can get to the bottom of her alleged illness but until that point, whilst she remains a danger to innocent members of society, she should not be able to put herself in a situation where someone can get seriously hurt. A curfew would also help her avoid triggering the suspended sentence as well which would do her a favour. That is what a judge should be taking in to account when making these very debatable decisions. bogtrotter
  • Score: 14

12:38pm Tue 12 Aug 14

Boscomite says...

BH1 loyal wrote:
Boscomite wrote:
BH1 loyal wrote:
Again I have to say it, you really are a sad bunch, why would you all want a 21 one year old female in jail ? If the offence warranted jail, that is where she would be, if she was unemployed you would have all blamed it on that, however she is employed, she is young, she has received her punishment and has a chance to live a good life, you are all the real life victor meldrews that originally got dorset it's reputation for being a boring place where you wait to die, I think some of you must be bitter that you are still here with your old useless selves, angry that you can't do the things you once could, don't worry guys not long now.
It has nothing to do with age or gender. If it had been a 19 year old male, I suspect you would also be baying for blood.
No I would not, why on earth would I want to see a 19 year old in jail ? How serious was the injury she caused, not how serious it could of been, I want to know how serious the actual injury was.
This was the 18th time she has been convicted. Some people regardless of age or gender, will continue until they have to face the consequences of their actions. One can only speculate how many times similar things may have happened without going to court. At 21, she still has a chance to turn her life around, but that's not going to happen if she's allowed to carry on like this. What's going to look worse on a CV when she's 30, a short term in prison, or another 20 or so convictions on her criminal record?
[quote][p][bold]BH1 loyal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Boscomite[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BH1 loyal[/bold] wrote: Again I have to say it, you really are a sad bunch, why would you all want a 21 one year old female in jail ? If the offence warranted jail, that is where she would be, if she was unemployed you would have all blamed it on that, however she is employed, she is young, she has received her punishment and has a chance to live a good life, you are all the real life victor meldrews that originally got dorset it's reputation for being a boring place where you wait to die, I think some of you must be bitter that you are still here with your old useless selves, angry that you can't do the things you once could, don't worry guys not long now.[/p][/quote]It has nothing to do with age or gender. If it had been a 19 year old male, I suspect you would also be baying for blood.[/p][/quote]No I would not, why on earth would I want to see a 19 year old in jail ? How serious was the injury she caused, not how serious it could of been, I want to know how serious the actual injury was.[/p][/quote]This was the 18th time she has been convicted. Some people regardless of age or gender, will continue until they have to face the consequences of their actions. One can only speculate how many times similar things may have happened without going to court. At 21, she still has a chance to turn her life around, but that's not going to happen if she's allowed to carry on like this. What's going to look worse on a CV when she's 30, a short term in prison, or another 20 or so convictions on her criminal record? Boscomite
  • Score: 23

12:46pm Tue 12 Aug 14

rozmister says...

bogtrotter wrote:
rozmister wrote:
Some people commenting on this post clearly know nothing about mental health services & treatment. In patient therapy is notoriously hard to get, people don't get sectioned for one violent drunken action & only extremely dangerous prisoners are sentenced to secure mental health units.

The CAT therapy she's been referred for has a waiting list of 9 months - 1 year, in the meantime she'll have generic counselling & supervision. The NHS doesn't have the capacity to treat most people straight away unless they're really unwell and completely unable to function.

If you think she shouldn't be left wandering the streets with minimal supervision & treatment maybe you need to lobby your MP for additional mental health funding in Bournemouth instead of blaming the judge.
Not sure that opinion can possibly be justified. She can have all the counselling she likes until she can be admitted to an institution that can get to the bottom of her alleged illness but until that point, whilst she remains a danger to innocent members of society, she should not be able to put herself in a situation where someone can get seriously hurt. A curfew would also help her avoid triggering the suspended sentence as well which would do her a favour. That is what a judge should be taking in to account when making these very debatable decisions.
If by institution you mean prison I'm not sure giving a prison sentence would help her rehabilitation in the slightest and she'd be pretty lucky to receive mental health treatment in there! Taking away her job & maybe her home & opportunity for treatment wouldn't benefit society in the long run. A curfew would make sense though.
[quote][p][bold]bogtrotter[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rozmister[/bold] wrote: Some people commenting on this post clearly know nothing about mental health services & treatment. In patient therapy is notoriously hard to get, people don't get sectioned for one violent drunken action & only extremely dangerous prisoners are sentenced to secure mental health units. The CAT therapy she's been referred for has a waiting list of 9 months - 1 year, in the meantime she'll have generic counselling & supervision. The NHS doesn't have the capacity to treat most people straight away unless they're really unwell and completely unable to function. If you think she shouldn't be left wandering the streets with minimal supervision & treatment maybe you need to lobby your MP for additional mental health funding in Bournemouth instead of blaming the judge.[/p][/quote]Not sure that opinion can possibly be justified. She can have all the counselling she likes until she can be admitted to an institution that can get to the bottom of her alleged illness but until that point, whilst she remains a danger to innocent members of society, she should not be able to put herself in a situation where someone can get seriously hurt. A curfew would also help her avoid triggering the suspended sentence as well which would do her a favour. That is what a judge should be taking in to account when making these very debatable decisions.[/p][/quote]If by institution you mean prison I'm not sure giving a prison sentence would help her rehabilitation in the slightest and she'd be pretty lucky to receive mental health treatment in there! Taking away her job & maybe her home & opportunity for treatment wouldn't benefit society in the long run. A curfew would make sense though. rozmister
  • Score: -4

1:15pm Tue 12 Aug 14

bogtrotter says...

rozmister wrote:
bogtrotter wrote:
rozmister wrote:
Some people commenting on this post clearly know nothing about mental health services & treatment. In patient therapy is notoriously hard to get, people don't get sectioned for one violent drunken action & only extremely dangerous prisoners are sentenced to secure mental health units.

The CAT therapy she's been referred for has a waiting list of 9 months - 1 year, in the meantime she'll have generic counselling & supervision. The NHS doesn't have the capacity to treat most people straight away unless they're really unwell and completely unable to function.

If you think she shouldn't be left wandering the streets with minimal supervision & treatment maybe you need to lobby your MP for additional mental health funding in Bournemouth instead of blaming the judge.
Not sure that opinion can possibly be justified. She can have all the counselling she likes until she can be admitted to an institution that can get to the bottom of her alleged illness but until that point, whilst she remains a danger to innocent members of society, she should not be able to put herself in a situation where someone can get seriously hurt. A curfew would also help her avoid triggering the suspended sentence as well which would do her a favour. That is what a judge should be taking in to account when making these very debatable decisions.
If by institution you mean prison I'm not sure giving a prison sentence would help her rehabilitation in the slightest and she'd be pretty lucky to receive mental health treatment in there! Taking away her job & maybe her home & opportunity for treatment wouldn't benefit society in the long run. A curfew would make sense though.
Sorry, I meant a mental health institution. However, the bottom line is that she is a serial repeat offender of violent crime and I doubt there is much you can do about that apart from the appropriate punishment which is prison, which in itself is a good a curfew as you can get.
[quote][p][bold]rozmister[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bogtrotter[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rozmister[/bold] wrote: Some people commenting on this post clearly know nothing about mental health services & treatment. In patient therapy is notoriously hard to get, people don't get sectioned for one violent drunken action & only extremely dangerous prisoners are sentenced to secure mental health units. The CAT therapy she's been referred for has a waiting list of 9 months - 1 year, in the meantime she'll have generic counselling & supervision. The NHS doesn't have the capacity to treat most people straight away unless they're really unwell and completely unable to function. If you think she shouldn't be left wandering the streets with minimal supervision & treatment maybe you need to lobby your MP for additional mental health funding in Bournemouth instead of blaming the judge.[/p][/quote]Not sure that opinion can possibly be justified. She can have all the counselling she likes until she can be admitted to an institution that can get to the bottom of her alleged illness but until that point, whilst she remains a danger to innocent members of society, she should not be able to put herself in a situation where someone can get seriously hurt. A curfew would also help her avoid triggering the suspended sentence as well which would do her a favour. That is what a judge should be taking in to account when making these very debatable decisions.[/p][/quote]If by institution you mean prison I'm not sure giving a prison sentence would help her rehabilitation in the slightest and she'd be pretty lucky to receive mental health treatment in there! Taking away her job & maybe her home & opportunity for treatment wouldn't benefit society in the long run. A curfew would make sense though.[/p][/quote]Sorry, I meant a mental health institution. However, the bottom line is that she is a serial repeat offender of violent crime and I doubt there is much you can do about that apart from the appropriate punishment which is prison, which in itself is a good a curfew as you can get. bogtrotter
  • Score: 13

1:15pm Tue 12 Aug 14

Arthur Maureen says...

BH1 loyal wrote:
He suffered a cut to his lower eye lid, and you want jail ? Worse injuries are caused every day in play parks, I am. It saying what she did is right but we do not have the facts, you lot are just an easy audience to wind up for the echo.
Are you Yasmine Thomas in disguise??
[quote][p][bold]BH1 loyal[/bold] wrote: He suffered a cut to his lower eye lid, and you want jail ? Worse injuries are caused every day in play parks, I am. It saying what she did is right but we do not have the facts, you lot are just an easy audience to wind up for the echo.[/p][/quote]Are you Yasmine Thomas in disguise?? Arthur Maureen
  • Score: 23

1:26pm Tue 12 Aug 14

S,Bowes says...

BH1 loyal wrote:
S,Bowes wrote:
Bournemouth/Poole must be the most unpleasant towns in the country .who the Hell would want to holiday here, public's places taken over by nomadic thieving scum,hammer wielding thugs in the suburbs .And this out of control woman masquerading as an Estate agent during the day then disfiguring people after .And all these ratbags allowed to walk the,streets .some celebrity arrives and get accused of blocking the life boat .total rubbish. And a bloke going about his business bullied by the police who were obviously bogged of because they had yo get out of their car .for have a comedy hooter .The place needs an image consultant
Where do you go on holiday ?
Bagdad it's safer
[quote][p][bold]BH1 loyal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]S,Bowes[/bold] wrote: Bournemouth/Poole must be the most unpleasant towns in the country .who the Hell would want to holiday here, public's places taken over by nomadic thieving scum,hammer wielding thugs in the suburbs .And this out of control woman masquerading as an Estate agent during the day then disfiguring people after .And all these ratbags allowed to walk the,streets .some celebrity arrives and get accused of blocking the life boat .total rubbish. And a bloke going about his business bullied by the police who were obviously bogged of because they had yo get out of their car .for have a comedy hooter .The place needs an image consultant[/p][/quote]Where do you go on holiday ?[/p][/quote]Bagdad it's safer S,Bowes
  • Score: 4

1:39pm Tue 12 Aug 14

GeorgeW64 says...

Who's the unstable one, her or the Judge. He should be sacked.
Who's the unstable one, her or the Judge. He should be sacked. GeorgeW64
  • Score: 13

1:40pm Tue 12 Aug 14

bogtrotter says...

BH1 loyal wrote:
He suffered a cut to his lower eye lid, and you want jail ? Worse injuries are caused every day in play parks, I am. It saying what she did is right but we do not have the facts, you lot are just an easy audience to wind up for the echo.
The intent is what the punishment should be given on.
[quote][p][bold]BH1 loyal[/bold] wrote: He suffered a cut to his lower eye lid, and you want jail ? Worse injuries are caused every day in play parks, I am. It saying what she did is right but we do not have the facts, you lot are just an easy audience to wind up for the echo.[/p][/quote]The intent is what the punishment should be given on. bogtrotter
  • Score: 14

1:46pm Tue 12 Aug 14

rozmister says...

bogtrotter wrote:
rozmister wrote:
bogtrotter wrote:
rozmister wrote:
Some people commenting on this post clearly know nothing about mental health services & treatment. In patient therapy is notoriously hard to get, people don't get sectioned for one violent drunken action & only extremely dangerous prisoners are sentenced to secure mental health units.

The CAT therapy she's been referred for has a waiting list of 9 months - 1 year, in the meantime she'll have generic counselling & supervision. The NHS doesn't have the capacity to treat most people straight away unless they're really unwell and completely unable to function.

If you think she shouldn't be left wandering the streets with minimal supervision & treatment maybe you need to lobby your MP for additional mental health funding in Bournemouth instead of blaming the judge.
Not sure that opinion can possibly be justified. She can have all the counselling she likes until she can be admitted to an institution that can get to the bottom of her alleged illness but until that point, whilst she remains a danger to innocent members of society, she should not be able to put herself in a situation where someone can get seriously hurt. A curfew would also help her avoid triggering the suspended sentence as well which would do her a favour. That is what a judge should be taking in to account when making these very debatable decisions.
If by institution you mean prison I'm not sure giving a prison sentence would help her rehabilitation in the slightest and she'd be pretty lucky to receive mental health treatment in there! Taking away her job & maybe her home & opportunity for treatment wouldn't benefit society in the long run. A curfew would make sense though.
Sorry, I meant a mental health institution. However, the bottom line is that she is a serial repeat offender of violent crime and I doubt there is much you can do about that apart from the appropriate punishment which is prison, which in itself is a good a curfew as you can get.
My point before was there isn't the resources to put someone in a mental health institution for one violent attack in four years. The emphasis now is on care in the community & there are people with much more serious problems left to live in the community because there isn't the space or resources. It's much cheaper to treat someone as an outpatient.
[quote][p][bold]bogtrotter[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rozmister[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bogtrotter[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rozmister[/bold] wrote: Some people commenting on this post clearly know nothing about mental health services & treatment. In patient therapy is notoriously hard to get, people don't get sectioned for one violent drunken action & only extremely dangerous prisoners are sentenced to secure mental health units. The CAT therapy she's been referred for has a waiting list of 9 months - 1 year, in the meantime she'll have generic counselling & supervision. The NHS doesn't have the capacity to treat most people straight away unless they're really unwell and completely unable to function. If you think she shouldn't be left wandering the streets with minimal supervision & treatment maybe you need to lobby your MP for additional mental health funding in Bournemouth instead of blaming the judge.[/p][/quote]Not sure that opinion can possibly be justified. She can have all the counselling she likes until she can be admitted to an institution that can get to the bottom of her alleged illness but until that point, whilst she remains a danger to innocent members of society, she should not be able to put herself in a situation where someone can get seriously hurt. A curfew would also help her avoid triggering the suspended sentence as well which would do her a favour. That is what a judge should be taking in to account when making these very debatable decisions.[/p][/quote]If by institution you mean prison I'm not sure giving a prison sentence would help her rehabilitation in the slightest and she'd be pretty lucky to receive mental health treatment in there! Taking away her job & maybe her home & opportunity for treatment wouldn't benefit society in the long run. A curfew would make sense though.[/p][/quote]Sorry, I meant a mental health institution. However, the bottom line is that she is a serial repeat offender of violent crime and I doubt there is much you can do about that apart from the appropriate punishment which is prison, which in itself is a good a curfew as you can get.[/p][/quote]My point before was there isn't the resources to put someone in a mental health institution for one violent attack in four years. The emphasis now is on care in the community & there are people with much more serious problems left to live in the community because there isn't the space or resources. It's much cheaper to treat someone as an outpatient. rozmister
  • Score: 0

1:50pm Tue 12 Aug 14

mcadder says...

BH1 loyal wrote:
Again I have to say it, you really are a sad bunch, why would you all want a 21 one year old female in jail ? If the offence warranted jail, that is where she would be, if she was unemployed you would have all blamed it on that, however she is employed, she is young, she has received her punishment and has a chance to live a good life, you are all the real life victor meldrews that originally got dorset it's reputation for being a boring place where you wait to die, I think some of you must be bitter that you are still here with your old useless selves, angry that you can't do the things you once could, don't worry guys not long now.
I'm sure you would still feel the same way after somebody stuck a glass in your face
[quote][p][bold]BH1 loyal[/bold] wrote: Again I have to say it, you really are a sad bunch, why would you all want a 21 one year old female in jail ? If the offence warranted jail, that is where she would be, if she was unemployed you would have all blamed it on that, however she is employed, she is young, she has received her punishment and has a chance to live a good life, you are all the real life victor meldrews that originally got dorset it's reputation for being a boring place where you wait to die, I think some of you must be bitter that you are still here with your old useless selves, angry that you can't do the things you once could, don't worry guys not long now.[/p][/quote]I'm sure you would still feel the same way after somebody stuck a glass in your face mcadder
  • Score: 26

2:01pm Tue 12 Aug 14

S,Bowes says...

BH1 loyal wrote:
Imagine this girl was a gypsy or as you weirdos call it part of "the irish caravan club" or even worse imagine she was from or the incident had happened in boscombe, a couple of your favourite subjects you would all be in meltdown, surely some of you must get bored commenting the same things over and over again how many more times do you want to moan about judges ? Maybe just maybe you don't have a clue about sentencing.
Ok your friend relation or whatever she is too you .Is a decent hard working woman that is no threat to anyone .passed convictions were a misunderstanding . I assume from your chosen name your proud resident and think this woman shares your values of justice And is an asset to the town and community we the you ones criticize for not having a clue regards sentencing are required to accept Your views .so tell us is she mad or bad you seem to be an expert on most things
[quote][p][bold]BH1 loyal[/bold] wrote: Imagine this girl was a gypsy or as you weirdos call it part of "the irish caravan club" or even worse imagine she was from or the incident had happened in boscombe, a couple of your favourite subjects you would all be in meltdown, surely some of you must get bored commenting the same things over and over again how many more times do you want to moan about judges ? Maybe just maybe you don't have a clue about sentencing.[/p][/quote]Ok your friend relation or whatever she is too you .Is a decent hard working woman that is no threat to anyone .passed convictions were a misunderstanding . I assume from your chosen name your proud resident and think this woman shares your values of justice And is an asset to the town and community we the you ones criticize for not having a clue regards sentencing are required to accept Your views .so tell us is she mad or bad you seem to be an expert on most things S,Bowes
  • Score: 16

2:08pm Tue 12 Aug 14

bogtrotter says...

rozmister wrote:
bogtrotter wrote:
rozmister wrote:
bogtrotter wrote:
rozmister wrote:
Some people commenting on this post clearly know nothing about mental health services & treatment. In patient therapy is notoriously hard to get, people don't get sectioned for one violent drunken action & only extremely dangerous prisoners are sentenced to secure mental health units.

The CAT therapy she's been referred for has a waiting list of 9 months - 1 year, in the meantime she'll have generic counselling & supervision. The NHS doesn't have the capacity to treat most people straight away unless they're really unwell and completely unable to function.

If you think she shouldn't be left wandering the streets with minimal supervision & treatment maybe you need to lobby your MP for additional mental health funding in Bournemouth instead of blaming the judge.
Not sure that opinion can possibly be justified. She can have all the counselling she likes until she can be admitted to an institution that can get to the bottom of her alleged illness but until that point, whilst she remains a danger to innocent members of society, she should not be able to put herself in a situation where someone can get seriously hurt. A curfew would also help her avoid triggering the suspended sentence as well which would do her a favour. That is what a judge should be taking in to account when making these very debatable decisions.
If by institution you mean prison I'm not sure giving a prison sentence would help her rehabilitation in the slightest and she'd be pretty lucky to receive mental health treatment in there! Taking away her job & maybe her home & opportunity for treatment wouldn't benefit society in the long run. A curfew would make sense though.
Sorry, I meant a mental health institution. However, the bottom line is that she is a serial repeat offender of violent crime and I doubt there is much you can do about that apart from the appropriate punishment which is prison, which in itself is a good a curfew as you can get.
My point before was there isn't the resources to put someone in a mental health institution for one violent attack in four years. The emphasis now is on care in the community & there are people with much more serious problems left to live in the community because there isn't the space or resources. It's much cheaper to treat someone as an outpatient.
Not sure how that works in modern society. Basically anyone committing crimes, violent or not, can plead mental instability as the reason and keep their fingers crossed that they'll get the outpatient decision. Also, at what point to do you wipe of previous offences as you use 1 in 4 years as an example? Assuming she's never been severely (or appropriately) punished, I'd say she's had no need to learn from the previous offences as she constantly gets away with them.
[quote][p][bold]rozmister[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bogtrotter[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rozmister[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bogtrotter[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rozmister[/bold] wrote: Some people commenting on this post clearly know nothing about mental health services & treatment. In patient therapy is notoriously hard to get, people don't get sectioned for one violent drunken action & only extremely dangerous prisoners are sentenced to secure mental health units. The CAT therapy she's been referred for has a waiting list of 9 months - 1 year, in the meantime she'll have generic counselling & supervision. The NHS doesn't have the capacity to treat most people straight away unless they're really unwell and completely unable to function. If you think she shouldn't be left wandering the streets with minimal supervision & treatment maybe you need to lobby your MP for additional mental health funding in Bournemouth instead of blaming the judge.[/p][/quote]Not sure that opinion can possibly be justified. She can have all the counselling she likes until she can be admitted to an institution that can get to the bottom of her alleged illness but until that point, whilst she remains a danger to innocent members of society, she should not be able to put herself in a situation where someone can get seriously hurt. A curfew would also help her avoid triggering the suspended sentence as well which would do her a favour. That is what a judge should be taking in to account when making these very debatable decisions.[/p][/quote]If by institution you mean prison I'm not sure giving a prison sentence would help her rehabilitation in the slightest and she'd be pretty lucky to receive mental health treatment in there! Taking away her job & maybe her home & opportunity for treatment wouldn't benefit society in the long run. A curfew would make sense though.[/p][/quote]Sorry, I meant a mental health institution. However, the bottom line is that she is a serial repeat offender of violent crime and I doubt there is much you can do about that apart from the appropriate punishment which is prison, which in itself is a good a curfew as you can get.[/p][/quote]My point before was there isn't the resources to put someone in a mental health institution for one violent attack in four years. The emphasis now is on care in the community & there are people with much more serious problems left to live in the community because there isn't the space or resources. It's much cheaper to treat someone as an outpatient.[/p][/quote]Not sure how that works in modern society. Basically anyone committing crimes, violent or not, can plead mental instability as the reason and keep their fingers crossed that they'll get the outpatient decision. Also, at what point to do you wipe of previous offences as you use 1 in 4 years as an example? Assuming she's never been severely (or appropriately) punished, I'd say she's had no need to learn from the previous offences as she constantly gets away with them. bogtrotter
  • Score: 14

3:00pm Tue 12 Aug 14

crazybird says...

LeeThorne wrote:
Pretty sad your all ganging up on a 21 year old girl. The courts have said whats what so get on with your lives.
It's okay for her to go round assaulting people though! Seriously, the only sad thing is that you appear to be defending her. Let's hope you end up on the sticky end of her fist at some point then!
[quote][p][bold]LeeThorne[/bold] wrote: Pretty sad your all ganging up on a 21 year old girl. The courts have said whats what so get on with your lives.[/p][/quote]It's okay for her to go round assaulting people though! Seriously, the only sad thing is that you appear to be defending her. Let's hope you end up on the sticky end of her fist at some point then! crazybird
  • Score: 18

3:04pm Tue 12 Aug 14

Boscombe92 says...

new2it wrote:
Boscombe92 wrote:
new2it wrote:
Boscombe92 wrote:
After reading this article I was left with a sick feeling in my stomach, and after reading some of the comments i was left truly horrified. How is it that this atrocious local newspaper is allowed to continue on its path to self destruction? Ill start my rant with some veiws on this front page article. Whoever wrote this article has had one thing in mind - to create fear and animosity toward the towns' younger generations, which is of course, exactly what it has done, (as proved by the comments above). Now after reading the article i'm a little confused as to why the headline focuses so heavily on the fact Miss Thomas has been spared jail, there is of course the '17' previous convictions (no details provided), but these are all over 4 years ago, meaning Miss Thomas would have been 17 or under for everyone of these, (or a child). Now most children that have records like that have not been brought up in a supportive caring family home, they are much more likely to have been brought up in care, by strangers, something that would only push a teenager to this type of crime. However, with this individual, since the age of 17, she has not committed any offence, despite every statistic suggesting she would. Instead, she has started a career in a respectable business, gaining experience that will help her throughout life, no doubt becoming self-sufficient, not living her life off the state (something this paper also loathes). So surely a prion sentence isn't going to help Miss Thomas at this stage of her life? Granted in February of this year, in unclear circumstances Miss Thomas has assaulted someone in a Bournemouth bar. This is unacceptable and deserves a punishment, which it has (80hrs unpaid community work, and fines of £1100 AND a suspended 12 month sentence). Surely this should be a logical punishment, given the offender has clearly improved her life massively since her last offence and may be on the way to a successful career, OR that if she as much as steals a newspaper she'll be sent to prison immediately. But no! The Echo would rather have us commenting on the horrors that may result from this employed, 21 year old girl may bring to the town, if she is not locked up behind bars, in a prison that only makes criminals worse, so she can be released and become one of the 58% of offenders that are sent back to prison within a year of being set free.

Maybe the award winning Bournemouth Echo could serve the town better by investigating and reporting on the many scandals that happen daily in our town hall between our elected Councillors and the towns corrupt businessmen. I can only assume the paper is edited or owned by one of these two types of evil in our town, which is why their crimes go unreported.

So please, readers, editors and owners of this paper, stop bullying individuals, think about how Miss Thomas will feel walking down the street of her hometown today, or any day in the future. Remember we are all human and capable of wrongdoing, none of us can say we've never done something we never imagined we could. How would you like your wrongdoings plastered all over the local newspaper? She's a 21 year old girl. Shame on you Bournemouth Echo.
So it's ok then for her to be in a position to put others in danger of her instability. I worry about youngsters who may be in her path, including 3 of my grandchildren and their friends who are all of an age to possibly in her way. I know there are always hazzards around, but when it has been identified surely she should be kept away from being able to do the same thing again. It's a bit like playing Russian Roulette.
As mentioned in the article Miss Thomas is getting treatment for her 'instabilities'. It is not mentioned in the article but I am sure there will be a night time ban of the town center for Miss Thomas, which would prevent the exact event happening again. If you could not tell by my comment, my problem is not with the punishment, (although i think it is suitable) it is with the fact this girls pictures has been put onto the front page of the Echo with a full story demonizing her. Incidents like these happen daily, It is only because a reporter happened to hear a few points, that she knew would cause a stir on here, that this story made the press. Alcohol and themselves is what will be your grandchildrens biggest danger, not 21 year old girls.
I agree to a certain extent, but the control of their alcoholic intake is ultimately up to them, but the possibility of having an unprovoked attack is not within their control. Incidents like this may happen every day and I'm sure they do, but even so, when it is known I still believe she should not be in a position to do this again, until she can really get control of herself. The victim was very lucky not to have been more seriously injured, and surely that is the most important thing.
Of course the victim is the most important thing, he will have been offered victim support and will have received a payment from CICA. I don't believe she is in a position to do it again, and if she did manage too, she would be duly incarcerated. But I will make my point once more; All things considered, is this article going to make the girl in question more likely or less likely to re-offend? Is this article going to help the victim? Is this article going to offer anything more than a platform for people to slate a troubled young girl on message boards?

As mentioned in other comments, this girl needs CAT Therapy, not to be humiliated in local media. This article would be a lot more productive if it focused on the time it takes for troubled teenagers to be accepted onto mental health treatments, and the problems that can be caused when suitable treatments are not available.
[quote][p][bold]new2it[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Boscombe92[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]new2it[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Boscombe92[/bold] wrote: After reading this article I was left with a sick feeling in my stomach, and after reading some of the comments i was left truly horrified. How is it that this atrocious local newspaper is allowed to continue on its path to self destruction? Ill start my rant with some veiws on this front page article. Whoever wrote this article has had one thing in mind - to create fear and animosity toward the towns' younger generations, which is of course, exactly what it has done, (as proved by the comments above). Now after reading the article i'm a little confused as to why the headline focuses so heavily on the fact Miss Thomas has been spared jail, there is of course the '17' previous convictions (no details provided), but these are all over 4 years ago, meaning Miss Thomas would have been 17 or under for everyone of these, (or a child). Now most children that have records like that have not been brought up in a supportive caring family home, they are much more likely to have been brought up in care, by strangers, something that would only push a teenager to this type of crime. However, with this individual, since the age of 17, she has not committed any offence, despite every statistic suggesting she would. Instead, she has started a career in a respectable business, gaining experience that will help her throughout life, no doubt becoming self-sufficient, not living her life off the state (something this paper also loathes). So surely a prion sentence isn't going to help Miss Thomas at this stage of her life? Granted in February of this year, in unclear circumstances Miss Thomas has assaulted someone in a Bournemouth bar. This is unacceptable and deserves a punishment, which it has (80hrs unpaid community work, and fines of £1100 AND a suspended 12 month sentence). Surely this should be a logical punishment, given the offender has clearly improved her life massively since her last offence and may be on the way to a successful career, OR that if she as much as steals a newspaper she'll be sent to prison immediately. But no! The Echo would rather have us commenting on the horrors that may result from this employed, 21 year old girl may bring to the town, if she is not locked up behind bars, in a prison that only makes criminals worse, so she can be released and become one of the 58% of offenders that are sent back to prison within a year of being set free. Maybe the award winning Bournemouth Echo could serve the town better by investigating and reporting on the many scandals that happen daily in our town hall between our elected Councillors and the towns corrupt businessmen. I can only assume the paper is edited or owned by one of these two types of evil in our town, which is why their crimes go unreported. So please, readers, editors and owners of this paper, stop bullying individuals, think about how Miss Thomas will feel walking down the street of her hometown today, or any day in the future. Remember we are all human and capable of wrongdoing, none of us can say we've never done something we never imagined we could. How would you like your wrongdoings plastered all over the local newspaper? She's a 21 year old girl. Shame on you Bournemouth Echo.[/p][/quote]So it's ok then for her to be in a position to put others in danger of her instability. I worry about youngsters who may be in her path, including 3 of my grandchildren and their friends who are all of an age to possibly in her way. I know there are always hazzards around, but when it has been identified surely she should be kept away from being able to do the same thing again. It's a bit like playing Russian Roulette.[/p][/quote]As mentioned in the article Miss Thomas is getting treatment for her 'instabilities'. It is not mentioned in the article but I am sure there will be a night time ban of the town center for Miss Thomas, which would prevent the exact event happening again. If you could not tell by my comment, my problem is not with the punishment, (although i think it is suitable) it is with the fact this girls pictures has been put onto the front page of the Echo with a full story demonizing her. Incidents like these happen daily, It is only because a reporter happened to hear a few points, that she knew would cause a stir on here, that this story made the press. Alcohol and themselves is what will be your grandchildrens biggest danger, not 21 year old girls.[/p][/quote]I agree to a certain extent, but the control of their alcoholic intake is ultimately up to them, but the possibility of having an unprovoked attack is not within their control. Incidents like this may happen every day and I'm sure they do, but even so, when it is known I still believe she should not be in a position to do this again, until she can really get control of herself. The victim was very lucky not to have been more seriously injured, and surely that is the most important thing.[/p][/quote]Of course the victim is the most important thing, he will have been offered victim support and will have received a payment from CICA. I don't believe she is in a position to do it again, and if she did manage too, she would be duly incarcerated. But I will make my point once more; All things considered, is this article going to make the girl in question more likely or less likely to re-offend? Is this article going to help the victim? Is this article going to offer anything more than a platform for people to slate a troubled young girl on message boards? As mentioned in other comments, this girl needs CAT Therapy, not to be humiliated in local media. This article would be a lot more productive if it focused on the time it takes for troubled teenagers to be accepted onto mental health treatments, and the problems that can be caused when suitable treatments are not available. Boscombe92
  • Score: -14

3:06pm Tue 12 Aug 14

durkiboy says...

Basically this woman is no more than a thug, black and white. She has done this on numerous occasions, and still gets away with it, as she will no doubt do. I am sick of the mental health/race/bad childhood card always being played in these cases, as many have said, if this were a male, then a custodial sentence would have been inevitable, but as she is a "poor ill woman", she is still free to carry on. No doubt she has the makings of a domestic abuser, be it to her future husband/partner/chil
dren. This woman is evil and needs locking up.
Basically this woman is no more than a thug, black and white. She has done this on numerous occasions, and still gets away with it, as she will no doubt do. I am sick of the mental health/race/bad childhood card always being played in these cases, as many have said, if this were a male, then a custodial sentence would have been inevitable, but as she is a "poor ill woman", she is still free to carry on. No doubt she has the makings of a domestic abuser, be it to her future husband/partner/chil dren. This woman is evil and needs locking up. durkiboy
  • Score: 41

3:15pm Tue 12 Aug 14

bogtrotter says...

Boscombe92 wrote:
new2it wrote:
Boscombe92 wrote:
new2it wrote:
Boscombe92 wrote:
After reading this article I was left with a sick feeling in my stomach, and after reading some of the comments i was left truly horrified. How is it that this atrocious local newspaper is allowed to continue on its path to self destruction? Ill start my rant with some veiws on this front page article. Whoever wrote this article has had one thing in mind - to create fear and animosity toward the towns' younger generations, which is of course, exactly what it has done, (as proved by the comments above). Now after reading the article i'm a little confused as to why the headline focuses so heavily on the fact Miss Thomas has been spared jail, there is of course the '17' previous convictions (no details provided), but these are all over 4 years ago, meaning Miss Thomas would have been 17 or under for everyone of these, (or a child). Now most children that have records like that have not been brought up in a supportive caring family home, they are much more likely to have been brought up in care, by strangers, something that would only push a teenager to this type of crime. However, with this individual, since the age of 17, she has not committed any offence, despite every statistic suggesting she would. Instead, she has started a career in a respectable business, gaining experience that will help her throughout life, no doubt becoming self-sufficient, not living her life off the state (something this paper also loathes). So surely a prion sentence isn't going to help Miss Thomas at this stage of her life? Granted in February of this year, in unclear circumstances Miss Thomas has assaulted someone in a Bournemouth bar. This is unacceptable and deserves a punishment, which it has (80hrs unpaid community work, and fines of £1100 AND a suspended 12 month sentence). Surely this should be a logical punishment, given the offender has clearly improved her life massively since her last offence and may be on the way to a successful career, OR that if she as much as steals a newspaper she'll be sent to prison immediately. But no! The Echo would rather have us commenting on the horrors that may result from this employed, 21 year old girl may bring to the town, if she is not locked up behind bars, in a prison that only makes criminals worse, so she can be released and become one of the 58% of offenders that are sent back to prison within a year of being set free.

Maybe the award winning Bournemouth Echo could serve the town better by investigating and reporting on the many scandals that happen daily in our town hall between our elected Councillors and the towns corrupt businessmen. I can only assume the paper is edited or owned by one of these two types of evil in our town, which is why their crimes go unreported.

So please, readers, editors and owners of this paper, stop bullying individuals, think about how Miss Thomas will feel walking down the street of her hometown today, or any day in the future. Remember we are all human and capable of wrongdoing, none of us can say we've never done something we never imagined we could. How would you like your wrongdoings plastered all over the local newspaper? She's a 21 year old girl. Shame on you Bournemouth Echo.
So it's ok then for her to be in a position to put others in danger of her instability. I worry about youngsters who may be in her path, including 3 of my grandchildren and their friends who are all of an age to possibly in her way. I know there are always hazzards around, but when it has been identified surely she should be kept away from being able to do the same thing again. It's a bit like playing Russian Roulette.
As mentioned in the article Miss Thomas is getting treatment for her 'instabilities'. It is not mentioned in the article but I am sure there will be a night time ban of the town center for Miss Thomas, which would prevent the exact event happening again. If you could not tell by my comment, my problem is not with the punishment, (although i think it is suitable) it is with the fact this girls pictures has been put onto the front page of the Echo with a full story demonizing her. Incidents like these happen daily, It is only because a reporter happened to hear a few points, that she knew would cause a stir on here, that this story made the press. Alcohol and themselves is what will be your grandchildrens biggest danger, not 21 year old girls.
I agree to a certain extent, but the control of their alcoholic intake is ultimately up to them, but the possibility of having an unprovoked attack is not within their control. Incidents like this may happen every day and I'm sure they do, but even so, when it is known I still believe she should not be in a position to do this again, until she can really get control of herself. The victim was very lucky not to have been more seriously injured, and surely that is the most important thing.
Of course the victim is the most important thing, he will have been offered victim support and will have received a payment from CICA. I don't believe she is in a position to do it again, and if she did manage too, she would be duly incarcerated. But I will make my point once more; All things considered, is this article going to make the girl in question more likely or less likely to re-offend? Is this article going to help the victim? Is this article going to offer anything more than a platform for people to slate a troubled young girl on message boards?

As mentioned in other comments, this girl needs CAT Therapy, not to be humiliated in local media. This article would be a lot more productive if it focused on the time it takes for troubled teenagers to be accepted onto mental health treatments, and the problems that can be caused when suitable treatments are not available.
Humiliated in local media? How do work that out? The only person to be humiliated in this article is the judge for passing an embarrassingly weak punishment. All that's happened to her is that her picture has been published which might help other potential victims steer well clear should they encounter her in the future. Saying that, they shouldn't have to as she shouldn't be about town in the near future.
[quote][p][bold]Boscombe92[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]new2it[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Boscombe92[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]new2it[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Boscombe92[/bold] wrote: After reading this article I was left with a sick feeling in my stomach, and after reading some of the comments i was left truly horrified. How is it that this atrocious local newspaper is allowed to continue on its path to self destruction? Ill start my rant with some veiws on this front page article. Whoever wrote this article has had one thing in mind - to create fear and animosity toward the towns' younger generations, which is of course, exactly what it has done, (as proved by the comments above). Now after reading the article i'm a little confused as to why the headline focuses so heavily on the fact Miss Thomas has been spared jail, there is of course the '17' previous convictions (no details provided), but these are all over 4 years ago, meaning Miss Thomas would have been 17 or under for everyone of these, (or a child). Now most children that have records like that have not been brought up in a supportive caring family home, they are much more likely to have been brought up in care, by strangers, something that would only push a teenager to this type of crime. However, with this individual, since the age of 17, she has not committed any offence, despite every statistic suggesting she would. Instead, she has started a career in a respectable business, gaining experience that will help her throughout life, no doubt becoming self-sufficient, not living her life off the state (something this paper also loathes). So surely a prion sentence isn't going to help Miss Thomas at this stage of her life? Granted in February of this year, in unclear circumstances Miss Thomas has assaulted someone in a Bournemouth bar. This is unacceptable and deserves a punishment, which it has (80hrs unpaid community work, and fines of £1100 AND a suspended 12 month sentence). Surely this should be a logical punishment, given the offender has clearly improved her life massively since her last offence and may be on the way to a successful career, OR that if she as much as steals a newspaper she'll be sent to prison immediately. But no! The Echo would rather have us commenting on the horrors that may result from this employed, 21 year old girl may bring to the town, if she is not locked up behind bars, in a prison that only makes criminals worse, so she can be released and become one of the 58% of offenders that are sent back to prison within a year of being set free. Maybe the award winning Bournemouth Echo could serve the town better by investigating and reporting on the many scandals that happen daily in our town hall between our elected Councillors and the towns corrupt businessmen. I can only assume the paper is edited or owned by one of these two types of evil in our town, which is why their crimes go unreported. So please, readers, editors and owners of this paper, stop bullying individuals, think about how Miss Thomas will feel walking down the street of her hometown today, or any day in the future. Remember we are all human and capable of wrongdoing, none of us can say we've never done something we never imagined we could. How would you like your wrongdoings plastered all over the local newspaper? She's a 21 year old girl. Shame on you Bournemouth Echo.[/p][/quote]So it's ok then for her to be in a position to put others in danger of her instability. I worry about youngsters who may be in her path, including 3 of my grandchildren and their friends who are all of an age to possibly in her way. I know there are always hazzards around, but when it has been identified surely she should be kept away from being able to do the same thing again. It's a bit like playing Russian Roulette.[/p][/quote]As mentioned in the article Miss Thomas is getting treatment for her 'instabilities'. It is not mentioned in the article but I am sure there will be a night time ban of the town center for Miss Thomas, which would prevent the exact event happening again. If you could not tell by my comment, my problem is not with the punishment, (although i think it is suitable) it is with the fact this girls pictures has been put onto the front page of the Echo with a full story demonizing her. Incidents like these happen daily, It is only because a reporter happened to hear a few points, that she knew would cause a stir on here, that this story made the press. Alcohol and themselves is what will be your grandchildrens biggest danger, not 21 year old girls.[/p][/quote]I agree to a certain extent, but the control of their alcoholic intake is ultimately up to them, but the possibility of having an unprovoked attack is not within their control. Incidents like this may happen every day and I'm sure they do, but even so, when it is known I still believe she should not be in a position to do this again, until she can really get control of herself. The victim was very lucky not to have been more seriously injured, and surely that is the most important thing.[/p][/quote]Of course the victim is the most important thing, he will have been offered victim support and will have received a payment from CICA. I don't believe she is in a position to do it again, and if she did manage too, she would be duly incarcerated. But I will make my point once more; All things considered, is this article going to make the girl in question more likely or less likely to re-offend? Is this article going to help the victim? Is this article going to offer anything more than a platform for people to slate a troubled young girl on message boards? As mentioned in other comments, this girl needs CAT Therapy, not to be humiliated in local media. This article would be a lot more productive if it focused on the time it takes for troubled teenagers to be accepted onto mental health treatments, and the problems that can be caused when suitable treatments are not available.[/p][/quote]Humiliated in local media? How do work that out? The only person to be humiliated in this article is the judge for passing an embarrassingly weak punishment. All that's happened to her is that her picture has been published which might help other potential victims steer well clear should they encounter her in the future. Saying that, they shouldn't have to as she shouldn't be about town in the near future. bogtrotter
  • Score: 25

3:21pm Tue 12 Aug 14

SeafaringMan says...

BH1 loyal wrote:
Again I have to say it, you really are a sad bunch, why would you all want a 21 one year old female in jail ? If the offence warranted jail, that is where she would be, if she was unemployed you would have all blamed it on that, however she is employed, she is young, she has received her punishment and has a chance to live a good life, you are all the real life victor meldrews that originally got dorset it's reputation for being a boring place where you wait to die, I think some of you must be bitter that you are still here with your old useless selves, angry that you can't do the things you once could, don't worry guys not long now.
Did you actually read the article? She has one of the worst records for violence the judge has ever seen in a man or a woman!
[quote][p][bold]BH1 loyal[/bold] wrote: Again I have to say it, you really are a sad bunch, why would you all want a 21 one year old female in jail ? If the offence warranted jail, that is where she would be, if she was unemployed you would have all blamed it on that, however she is employed, she is young, she has received her punishment and has a chance to live a good life, you are all the real life victor meldrews that originally got dorset it's reputation for being a boring place where you wait to die, I think some of you must be bitter that you are still here with your old useless selves, angry that you can't do the things you once could, don't worry guys not long now.[/p][/quote]Did you actually read the article? She has one of the worst records for violence the judge has ever seen in a man or a woman! SeafaringMan
  • Score: 27

3:24pm Tue 12 Aug 14

O'Reilly says...

Marty Caine wrote:
She attacked someone with a glass and there is no excuse for that whatsoever, even less excuse for a judge not to give a custodial sentence!
Yep....GBH was always a custodial crime. It would appear that our Laws have been watered down. I remember when not having car insurance was a major no no, and you were punished accordingly, nowadays.....zilch.
[quote][p][bold]Marty Caine[/bold] wrote: She attacked someone with a glass and there is no excuse for that whatsoever, even less excuse for a judge not to give a custodial sentence![/p][/quote]Yep....GBH was always a custodial crime. It would appear that our Laws have been watered down. I remember when not having car insurance was a major no no, and you were punished accordingly, nowadays.....zilch. O'Reilly
  • Score: 13

4:21pm Tue 12 Aug 14

BournemouthMum says...

Gastines3 wrote:
For once the Echo has published too many facts!! I don't think that the Estate Agency mentioned should have been dragged through the mud by an employee's behaviour outside of office hours.I expect there were a few items not mentioned on her C.V,
No business connection with the company mentioned.
Well I certainly won't be using that estiate agent in future - especially if they are still employing this bag of sh1t despite her having numerous convictions, it does make one wonder what other scumbags they employ as they obviously don't seem to be concerned about their customers' safety.
[quote][p][bold]Gastines3[/bold] wrote: For once the Echo has published too many facts!! I don't think that the Estate Agency mentioned should have been dragged through the mud by an employee's behaviour outside of office hours.I expect there were a few items not mentioned on her C.V, No business connection with the company mentioned.[/p][/quote]Well I certainly won't be using that estiate agent in future - especially if they are still employing this bag of sh1t despite her having numerous convictions, it does make one wonder what other scumbags they employ as they obviously don't seem to be concerned about their customers' safety. BournemouthMum
  • Score: 13

4:30pm Tue 12 Aug 14

bobthedestroyer says...

rozmister wrote:
bogtrotter wrote:
rozmister wrote:
bogtrotter wrote:
rozmister wrote:
Some people commenting on this post clearly know nothing about mental health services & treatment. In patient therapy is notoriously hard to get, people don't get sectioned for one violent drunken action & only extremely dangerous prisoners are sentenced to secure mental health units.

The CAT therapy she's been referred for has a waiting list of 9 months - 1 year, in the meantime she'll have generic counselling & supervision. The NHS doesn't have the capacity to treat most people straight away unless they're really unwell and completely unable to function.

If you think she shouldn't be left wandering the streets with minimal supervision & treatment maybe you need to lobby your MP for additional mental health funding in Bournemouth instead of blaming the judge.
Not sure that opinion can possibly be justified. She can have all the counselling she likes until she can be admitted to an institution that can get to the bottom of her alleged illness but until that point, whilst she remains a danger to innocent members of society, she should not be able to put herself in a situation where someone can get seriously hurt. A curfew would also help her avoid triggering the suspended sentence as well which would do her a favour. That is what a judge should be taking in to account when making these very debatable decisions.
If by institution you mean prison I'm not sure giving a prison sentence would help her rehabilitation in the slightest and she'd be pretty lucky to receive mental health treatment in there! Taking away her job & maybe her home & opportunity for treatment wouldn't benefit society in the long run. A curfew would make sense though.
Sorry, I meant a mental health institution. However, the bottom line is that she is a serial repeat offender of violent crime and I doubt there is much you can do about that apart from the appropriate punishment which is prison, which in itself is a good a curfew as you can get.
My point before was there isn't the resources to put someone in a mental health institution for one violent attack in four years. The emphasis now is on care in the community & there are people with much more serious problems left to live in the community because there isn't the space or resources. It's much cheaper to treat someone as an outpatient.
Are you speaking based on fact or supposition? As someone within mental health services if there is a court referral it is dealt with. The majority of patients are managed effectively through outpatient services occasionally a stay is required to break the cycle be it depression, anxiety or other mental illness. Within supervised inpatient care progress is generally faster. As you say prison wouldn't have any benefit in this instance.
[quote][p][bold]rozmister[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bogtrotter[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rozmister[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bogtrotter[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rozmister[/bold] wrote: Some people commenting on this post clearly know nothing about mental health services & treatment. In patient therapy is notoriously hard to get, people don't get sectioned for one violent drunken action & only extremely dangerous prisoners are sentenced to secure mental health units. The CAT therapy she's been referred for has a waiting list of 9 months - 1 year, in the meantime she'll have generic counselling & supervision. The NHS doesn't have the capacity to treat most people straight away unless they're really unwell and completely unable to function. If you think she shouldn't be left wandering the streets with minimal supervision & treatment maybe you need to lobby your MP for additional mental health funding in Bournemouth instead of blaming the judge.[/p][/quote]Not sure that opinion can possibly be justified. She can have all the counselling she likes until she can be admitted to an institution that can get to the bottom of her alleged illness but until that point, whilst she remains a danger to innocent members of society, she should not be able to put herself in a situation where someone can get seriously hurt. A curfew would also help her avoid triggering the suspended sentence as well which would do her a favour. That is what a judge should be taking in to account when making these very debatable decisions.[/p][/quote]If by institution you mean prison I'm not sure giving a prison sentence would help her rehabilitation in the slightest and she'd be pretty lucky to receive mental health treatment in there! Taking away her job & maybe her home & opportunity for treatment wouldn't benefit society in the long run. A curfew would make sense though.[/p][/quote]Sorry, I meant a mental health institution. However, the bottom line is that she is a serial repeat offender of violent crime and I doubt there is much you can do about that apart from the appropriate punishment which is prison, which in itself is a good a curfew as you can get.[/p][/quote]My point before was there isn't the resources to put someone in a mental health institution for one violent attack in four years. The emphasis now is on care in the community & there are people with much more serious problems left to live in the community because there isn't the space or resources. It's much cheaper to treat someone as an outpatient.[/p][/quote]Are you speaking based on fact or supposition? As someone within mental health services if there is a court referral it is dealt with. The majority of patients are managed effectively through outpatient services occasionally a stay is required to break the cycle be it depression, anxiety or other mental illness. Within supervised inpatient care progress is generally faster. As you say prison wouldn't have any benefit in this instance. bobthedestroyer
  • Score: 3

4:39pm Tue 12 Aug 14

agp1337 says...

master plan wrote:
This country is so weak at passing a sentence. When visiting family in Florida there next door neighbour was arrested for drink driving with a child in the car. She was sentenced for 21 months inside.
The trouble is, it doesn't work. In Florida there are still lots of people drink-driving, in those states where there is the death penalty there are still regular murders. Even in Saudi Arabia where hands can be cut off for theft, there is still thieving. I'm not saying let her off, but harsh punishments aren't a panacea. Truth is, I don't know the answer; in fact I suspect there isn't one, which doesn't mean that we do nothing. We should not base punishment on a desire for revenge, though.
[quote][p][bold]master plan[/bold] wrote: This country is so weak at passing a sentence. When visiting family in Florida there next door neighbour was arrested for drink driving with a child in the car. She was sentenced for 21 months inside.[/p][/quote]The trouble is, it doesn't work. In Florida there are still lots of people drink-driving, in those states where there is the death penalty there are still regular murders. Even in Saudi Arabia where hands can be cut off for theft, there is still thieving. I'm not saying let her off, but harsh punishments aren't a panacea. Truth is, I don't know the answer; in fact I suspect there isn't one, which doesn't mean that we do nothing. We should not base punishment on a desire for revenge, though. agp1337
  • Score: 13

5:07pm Tue 12 Aug 14

Wageslave says...

S,Bowes wrote:
TimAFCB wrote:
S,Bowes wrote:
Bournemouth/Poole must be the most unpleasant towns in the country .who the Hell would want to holiday here, public's places taken over by nomadic thieving scum,hammer wielding thugs in the suburbs .And this out of control woman masquerading as an Estate agent during the day then disfiguring people after .And all these ratbags allowed to walk the,streets .some celebrity arrives and get accused of blocking the life boat .total rubbish. And a bloke going about his business bullied by the police who were obviously bogged of because they had yo get out of their car .for have a comedy hooter .The place needs an image consultant
I think you have led a very sheltered life. In most parts of the country a glassing would not make the news at all as far worse happens everyday. Try living elsewhere then you would see how good this area really is.
Being better than the worst is what starts a a race to the bottom,as for living elsewhere .I do and would hate to return.I left an upmarket well ordered town .the place was fun,clean law abbiding the holiday makers was the mainstay of the economy police walked amongst the people .the council were respected .now it seems drug rehab as taken over as the main industry .honest artisans are challenged by corrupt lawless nomads.I wish you well in your chosen town
You are absolutely right in everything you say, after 45 years I now hate it here but I have family including Grandchildren here , so for now I need to stay but can't wait to get out..
[quote][p][bold]S,Bowes[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TimAFCB[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]S,Bowes[/bold] wrote: Bournemouth/Poole must be the most unpleasant towns in the country .who the Hell would want to holiday here, public's places taken over by nomadic thieving scum,hammer wielding thugs in the suburbs .And this out of control woman masquerading as an Estate agent during the day then disfiguring people after .And all these ratbags allowed to walk the,streets .some celebrity arrives and get accused of blocking the life boat .total rubbish. And a bloke going about his business bullied by the police who were obviously bogged of because they had yo get out of their car .for have a comedy hooter .The place needs an image consultant[/p][/quote]I think you have led a very sheltered life. In most parts of the country a glassing would not make the news at all as far worse happens everyday. Try living elsewhere then you would see how good this area really is.[/p][/quote]Being better than the worst is what starts a a race to the bottom,as for living elsewhere .I do and would hate to return.I left an upmarket well ordered town .the place was fun,clean law abbiding the holiday makers was the mainstay of the economy police walked amongst the people .the council were respected .now it seems drug rehab as taken over as the main industry .honest artisans are challenged by corrupt lawless nomads.I wish you well in your chosen town[/p][/quote]You are absolutely right in everything you say, after 45 years I now hate it here but I have family including Grandchildren here , so for now I need to stay but can't wait to get out.. Wageslave
  • Score: -7

5:14pm Tue 12 Aug 14

kalebmoledirt says...

Wageslave wrote:
S,Bowes wrote:
TimAFCB wrote:
S,Bowes wrote:
Bournemouth/Poole must be the most unpleasant towns in the country .who the Hell would want to holiday here, public's places taken over by nomadic thieving scum,hammer wielding thugs in the suburbs .And this out of control woman masquerading as an Estate agent during the day then disfiguring people after .And all these ratbags allowed to walk the,streets .some celebrity arrives and get accused of blocking the life boat .total rubbish. And a bloke going about his business bullied by the police who were obviously bogged of because they had yo get out of their car .for have a comedy hooter .The place needs an image consultant
I think you have led a very sheltered life. In most parts of the country a glassing would not make the news at all as far worse happens everyday. Try living elsewhere then you would see how good this area really is.
Being better than the worst is what starts a a race to the bottom,as for living elsewhere .I do and would hate to return.I left an upmarket well ordered town .the place was fun,clean law abbiding the holiday makers was the mainstay of the economy police walked amongst the people .the council were respected .now it seems drug rehab as taken over as the main industry .honest artisans are challenged by corrupt lawless nomads.I wish you well in your chosen town
You are absolutely right in everything you say, after 45 years I now hate it here but I have family including Grandchildren here , so for now I need to stay but can't wait to get out..
I sincerely wish you well .sure you will Not regret it .Bournemouth&Poole are circling the plug hole of decency
[quote][p][bold]Wageslave[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]S,Bowes[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TimAFCB[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]S,Bowes[/bold] wrote: Bournemouth/Poole must be the most unpleasant towns in the country .who the Hell would want to holiday here, public's places taken over by nomadic thieving scum,hammer wielding thugs in the suburbs .And this out of control woman masquerading as an Estate agent during the day then disfiguring people after .And all these ratbags allowed to walk the,streets .some celebrity arrives and get accused of blocking the life boat .total rubbish. And a bloke going about his business bullied by the police who were obviously bogged of because they had yo get out of their car .for have a comedy hooter .The place needs an image consultant[/p][/quote]I think you have led a very sheltered life. In most parts of the country a glassing would not make the news at all as far worse happens everyday. Try living elsewhere then you would see how good this area really is.[/p][/quote]Being better than the worst is what starts a a race to the bottom,as for living elsewhere .I do and would hate to return.I left an upmarket well ordered town .the place was fun,clean law abbiding the holiday makers was the mainstay of the economy police walked amongst the people .the council were respected .now it seems drug rehab as taken over as the main industry .honest artisans are challenged by corrupt lawless nomads.I wish you well in your chosen town[/p][/quote]You are absolutely right in everything you say, after 45 years I now hate it here but I have family including Grandchildren here , so for now I need to stay but can't wait to get out..[/p][/quote]I sincerely wish you well .sure you will Not regret it .Bournemouth&Poole are circling the plug hole of decency kalebmoledirt
  • Score: 4

5:15pm Tue 12 Aug 14

podgie says...

BH1 loyal wrote:
podgie wrote:
LeeThorne wrote:
Pretty sad your all ganging up on a 21 year old girl. The courts have said whats what so get on with your lives.
Yes and carry on picking the glass out your face.
Lee there are plenty of examples , where the courts are so out of sync with their pansy arsed sentencing that puts the public in more danger,
I therefore think people have every right to express their displeasure.
Maybe the judge might come from out of their butler serviced lodges and smell the coffee ..
Haha fantastic exaggeration! Are you a story teller ?
Once upon a time a little boy called Lee was allowed by his mummy to use the computer.Even though he had obviously been drinking on an empty head. he went on and wrote a lot of silly nonsense.
The result of which was a lot of thumbs down.....
[quote][p][bold]BH1 loyal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]podgie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LeeThorne[/bold] wrote: Pretty sad your all ganging up on a 21 year old girl. The courts have said whats what so get on with your lives.[/p][/quote]Yes and carry on picking the glass out your face. Lee there are plenty of examples , where the courts are so out of sync with their pansy arsed sentencing that puts the public in more danger, I therefore think people have every right to express their displeasure. Maybe the judge might come from out of their butler serviced lodges and smell the coffee ..[/p][/quote]Haha fantastic exaggeration! Are you a story teller ?[/p][/quote]Once upon a time a little boy called Lee was allowed by his mummy to use the computer.Even though he had obviously been drinking on an empty head. he went on and wrote a lot of silly nonsense. The result of which was a lot of thumbs down..... podgie
  • Score: 2

5:19pm Tue 12 Aug 14

podgie says...

BH1 loyal wrote:
Imagine this girl was a gypsy or as you weirdos call it part of "the irish caravan club" or even worse imagine she was from or the incident had happened in boscombe, a couple of your favourite subjects you would all be in meltdown, surely some of you must get bored commenting the same things over and over again how many more times do you want to moan about judges ? Maybe just maybe you don't have a clue about sentencing.
Bh1 loyal
Maybe you just don't have a clue ........The only one sounding slightly BARKING is yourself
[quote][p][bold]BH1 loyal[/bold] wrote: Imagine this girl was a gypsy or as you weirdos call it part of "the irish caravan club" or even worse imagine she was from or the incident had happened in boscombe, a couple of your favourite subjects you would all be in meltdown, surely some of you must get bored commenting the same things over and over again how many more times do you want to moan about judges ? Maybe just maybe you don't have a clue about sentencing.[/p][/quote]Bh1 loyal Maybe you just don't have a clue ........The only one sounding slightly BARKING is yourself podgie
  • Score: 5

5:39pm Tue 12 Aug 14

kalebmoledirt says...

BH1 loyal wrote:
Imagine this girl was a gypsy or as you weirdos call it part of "the irish caravan club" or even worse imagine she was from or the incident had happened in boscombe, a couple of your favourite subjects you would all be in meltdown, surely some of you must get bored commenting the same things over and over again how many more times do you want to moan about judges ? Maybe just maybe you don't have a clue about sentencing.
It clear she is not a Gypsy we don't know where she comes from ,the people you are sharing this forum with ,don't like to be called names by you a blinkered hysterical woman whit an hidden agenda Were the woman that was out with her .? Your a credit to Bournemouth even if your views are odd
[quote][p][bold]BH1 loyal[/bold] wrote: Imagine this girl was a gypsy or as you weirdos call it part of "the irish caravan club" or even worse imagine she was from or the incident had happened in boscombe, a couple of your favourite subjects you would all be in meltdown, surely some of you must get bored commenting the same things over and over again how many more times do you want to moan about judges ? Maybe just maybe you don't have a clue about sentencing.[/p][/quote]It clear she is not a Gypsy we don't know where she comes from ,the people you are sharing this forum with ,don't like to be called names by you a blinkered hysterical woman whit an hidden agenda Were the woman that was out with her .? Your a credit to Bournemouth even if your views are odd kalebmoledirt
  • Score: -9

5:53pm Tue 12 Aug 14

Some people are pathetic says...

Great advert for Palmer snell! If they employ thugs like this I would never ever sell or buy a property from them! Absolute disgrace
Great advert for Palmer snell! If they employ thugs like this I would never ever sell or buy a property from them! Absolute disgrace Some people are pathetic
  • Score: 20

7:24pm Tue 12 Aug 14

West moors 1 says...

Boscombe92 wrote:
After reading this article I was left with a sick feeling in my stomach, and after reading some of the comments i was left truly horrified. How is it that this atrocious local newspaper is allowed to continue on its path to self destruction? Ill start my rant with some veiws on this front page article. Whoever wrote this article has had one thing in mind - to create fear and animosity toward the towns' younger generations, which is of course, exactly what it has done, (as proved by the comments above). Now after reading the article i'm a little confused as to why the headline focuses so heavily on the fact Miss Thomas has been spared jail, there is of course the '17' previous convictions (no details provided), but these are all over 4 years ago, meaning Miss Thomas would have been 17 or under for everyone of these, (or a child). Now most children that have records like that have not been brought up in a supportive caring family home, they are much more likely to have been brought up in care, by strangers, something that would only push a teenager to this type of crime. However, with this individual, since the age of 17, she has not committed any offence, despite every statistic suggesting she would. Instead, she has started a career in a respectable business, gaining experience that will help her throughout life, no doubt becoming self-sufficient, not living her life off the state (something this paper also loathes). So surely a prion sentence isn't going to help Miss Thomas at this stage of her life? Granted in February of this year, in unclear circumstances Miss Thomas has assaulted someone in a Bournemouth bar. This is unacceptable and deserves a punishment, which it has (80hrs unpaid community work, and fines of £1100 AND a suspended 12 month sentence). Surely this should be a logical punishment, given the offender has clearly improved her life massively since her last offence and may be on the way to a successful career, OR that if she as much as steals a newspaper she'll be sent to prison immediately. But no! The Echo would rather have us commenting on the horrors that may result from this employed, 21 year old girl may bring to the town, if she is not locked up behind bars, in a prison that only makes criminals worse, so she can be released and become one of the 58% of offenders that are sent back to prison within a year of being set free.

Maybe the award winning Bournemouth Echo could serve the town better by investigating and reporting on the many scandals that happen daily in our town hall between our elected Councillors and the towns corrupt businessmen. I can only assume the paper is edited or owned by one of these two types of evil in our town, which is why their crimes go unreported.

So please, readers, editors and owners of this paper, stop bullying individuals, think about how Miss Thomas will feel walking down the street of her hometown today, or any day in the future. Remember we are all human and capable of wrongdoing, none of us can say we've never done something we never imagined we could. How would you like your wrongdoings plastered all over the local newspaper? She's a 21 year old girl. Shame on you Bournemouth Echo.
Righteous ****! She's a violent criminal who has consistently got away with it. The Echo is right to express a view and the vast majority of us think this soft, silly judge has got it plainly wrong.
[quote][p][bold]Boscombe92[/bold] wrote: After reading this article I was left with a sick feeling in my stomach, and after reading some of the comments i was left truly horrified. How is it that this atrocious local newspaper is allowed to continue on its path to self destruction? Ill start my rant with some veiws on this front page article. Whoever wrote this article has had one thing in mind - to create fear and animosity toward the towns' younger generations, which is of course, exactly what it has done, (as proved by the comments above). Now after reading the article i'm a little confused as to why the headline focuses so heavily on the fact Miss Thomas has been spared jail, there is of course the '17' previous convictions (no details provided), but these are all over 4 years ago, meaning Miss Thomas would have been 17 or under for everyone of these, (or a child). Now most children that have records like that have not been brought up in a supportive caring family home, they are much more likely to have been brought up in care, by strangers, something that would only push a teenager to this type of crime. However, with this individual, since the age of 17, she has not committed any offence, despite every statistic suggesting she would. Instead, she has started a career in a respectable business, gaining experience that will help her throughout life, no doubt becoming self-sufficient, not living her life off the state (something this paper also loathes). So surely a prion sentence isn't going to help Miss Thomas at this stage of her life? Granted in February of this year, in unclear circumstances Miss Thomas has assaulted someone in a Bournemouth bar. This is unacceptable and deserves a punishment, which it has (80hrs unpaid community work, and fines of £1100 AND a suspended 12 month sentence). Surely this should be a logical punishment, given the offender has clearly improved her life massively since her last offence and may be on the way to a successful career, OR that if she as much as steals a newspaper she'll be sent to prison immediately. But no! The Echo would rather have us commenting on the horrors that may result from this employed, 21 year old girl may bring to the town, if she is not locked up behind bars, in a prison that only makes criminals worse, so she can be released and become one of the 58% of offenders that are sent back to prison within a year of being set free. Maybe the award winning Bournemouth Echo could serve the town better by investigating and reporting on the many scandals that happen daily in our town hall between our elected Councillors and the towns corrupt businessmen. I can only assume the paper is edited or owned by one of these two types of evil in our town, which is why their crimes go unreported. So please, readers, editors and owners of this paper, stop bullying individuals, think about how Miss Thomas will feel walking down the street of her hometown today, or any day in the future. Remember we are all human and capable of wrongdoing, none of us can say we've never done something we never imagined we could. How would you like your wrongdoings plastered all over the local newspaper? She's a 21 year old girl. Shame on you Bournemouth Echo.[/p][/quote]Righteous ****! She's a violent criminal who has consistently got away with it. The Echo is right to express a view and the vast majority of us think this soft, silly judge has got it plainly wrong. West moors 1
  • Score: 25

8:02pm Tue 12 Aug 14

muscliffman says...

Some people are pathetic wrote:
Great advert for Palmer snell! If they employ thugs like this I would never ever sell or buy a property from them! Absolute disgrace
Be fair to Palmer Snell, like others you presume the employer knew of her past record, but it's hardly something this sort of person is likely to have voluntarily told them on her CV. Anyway I rather suspect her employment status has changed by now!
[quote][p][bold]Some people are pathetic[/bold] wrote: Great advert for Palmer snell! If they employ thugs like this I would never ever sell or buy a property from them! Absolute disgrace[/p][/quote]Be fair to Palmer Snell, like others you presume the employer knew of her past record, but it's hardly something this sort of person is likely to have voluntarily told them on her CV. Anyway I rather suspect her employment status has changed by now! muscliffman
  • Score: 15

8:06pm Tue 12 Aug 14

alyce says...

Judge has shares in Palmer Snell. I took a greys estate agent to court for conning me out of £200. The judge Haig Haddow blatantly disregarded all evidence. Most circuit judges are senile or have hidden connections.
Judge has shares in Palmer Snell. I took a greys estate agent to court for conning me out of £200. The judge Haig Haddow blatantly disregarded all evidence. Most circuit judges are senile or have hidden connections. alyce
  • Score: -9

8:09pm Tue 12 Aug 14

old duffa says...

i heared she got sacked today
at last
now for tribunal ****
i heared she got sacked today at last now for tribunal **** old duffa
  • Score: 19

8:17pm Tue 12 Aug 14

S,Bowes says...

alyce wrote:
Judge has shares in Palmer Snell. I took a greys estate agent to court for conning me out of £200. The judge Haig Haddow blatantly disregarded all evidence. Most circuit judges are senile or have hidden connections.
Prove it
[quote][p][bold]alyce[/bold] wrote: Judge has shares in Palmer Snell. I took a greys estate agent to court for conning me out of £200. The judge Haig Haddow blatantly disregarded all evidence. Most circuit judges are senile or have hidden connections.[/p][/quote]Prove it S,Bowes
  • Score: 9

8:18pm Tue 12 Aug 14

stevobath says...

CHESILDENECHERRY wrote:
IF THIS WAS A BLOKE, PRISON WOULD BE CERTAIN. WOMEN GET A WAY WITH A LOT IN THIS JUSTICE SYTEM, ABSOLUTE JOKE!!!!
You're more likely to get a prison sentence if you're a woman.

This case is ridiculous though. 17 previous all for violence?

Needs sectioning on a secure unit, with some 'Largactyl Therapy'.
[quote][p][bold]CHESILDENECHERRY[/bold] wrote: IF THIS WAS A BLOKE, PRISON WOULD BE CERTAIN. WOMEN GET A WAY WITH A LOT IN THIS JUSTICE SYTEM, ABSOLUTE JOKE!!!![/p][/quote]You're more likely to get a prison sentence if you're a woman. This case is ridiculous though. 17 previous all for violence? Needs sectioning on a secure unit, with some 'Largactyl Therapy'. stevobath
  • Score: -5

8:18pm Tue 12 Aug 14

rozmister says...

bobthedestroyer wrote:
rozmister wrote:
bogtrotter wrote:
rozmister wrote:
bogtrotter wrote:
rozmister wrote:
Some people commenting on this post clearly know nothing about mental health services & treatment. In patient therapy is notoriously hard to get, people don't get sectioned for one violent drunken action & only extremely dangerous prisoners are sentenced to secure mental health units.

The CAT therapy she's been referred for has a waiting list of 9 months - 1 year, in the meantime she'll have generic counselling & supervision. The NHS doesn't have the capacity to treat most people straight away unless they're really unwell and completely unable to function.

If you think she shouldn't be left wandering the streets with minimal supervision & treatment maybe you need to lobby your MP for additional mental health funding in Bournemouth instead of blaming the judge.
Not sure that opinion can possibly be justified. She can have all the counselling she likes until she can be admitted to an institution that can get to the bottom of her alleged illness but until that point, whilst she remains a danger to innocent members of society, she should not be able to put herself in a situation where someone can get seriously hurt. A curfew would also help her avoid triggering the suspended sentence as well which would do her a favour. That is what a judge should be taking in to account when making these very debatable decisions.
If by institution you mean prison I'm not sure giving a prison sentence would help her rehabilitation in the slightest and she'd be pretty lucky to receive mental health treatment in there! Taking away her job & maybe her home & opportunity for treatment wouldn't benefit society in the long run. A curfew would make sense though.
Sorry, I meant a mental health institution. However, the bottom line is that she is a serial repeat offender of violent crime and I doubt there is much you can do about that apart from the appropriate punishment which is prison, which in itself is a good a curfew as you can get.
My point before was there isn't the resources to put someone in a mental health institution for one violent attack in four years. The emphasis now is on care in the community & there are people with much more serious problems left to live in the community because there isn't the space or resources. It's much cheaper to treat someone as an outpatient.
Are you speaking based on fact or supposition? As someone within mental health services if there is a court referral it is dealt with. The majority of patients are managed effectively through outpatient services occasionally a stay is required to break the cycle be it depression, anxiety or other mental illness. Within supervised inpatient care progress is generally faster. As you say prison wouldn't have any benefit in this instance.
I was speaking based on my own experience of being referred for (and having) CAT in Bournemouth. Her referral wasn't from the court, if you read the article she was already waiting when she got to court so perhaps speedier treatment would have prevented her attacking someone in the first place and perhaps the court could speed up her wait now.

On top of that I've met numerous people through my work who are much more violent than the aforementioned lady and regularly arrested by the police and yet none of them have been committed to institutions, if it's not due to budget cuts and an emphasis on care in the community what would you say it is?
[quote][p][bold]bobthedestroyer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rozmister[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bogtrotter[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rozmister[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bogtrotter[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rozmister[/bold] wrote: Some people commenting on this post clearly know nothing about mental health services & treatment. In patient therapy is notoriously hard to get, people don't get sectioned for one violent drunken action & only extremely dangerous prisoners are sentenced to secure mental health units. The CAT therapy she's been referred for has a waiting list of 9 months - 1 year, in the meantime she'll have generic counselling & supervision. The NHS doesn't have the capacity to treat most people straight away unless they're really unwell and completely unable to function. If you think she shouldn't be left wandering the streets with minimal supervision & treatment maybe you need to lobby your MP for additional mental health funding in Bournemouth instead of blaming the judge.[/p][/quote]Not sure that opinion can possibly be justified. She can have all the counselling she likes until she can be admitted to an institution that can get to the bottom of her alleged illness but until that point, whilst she remains a danger to innocent members of society, she should not be able to put herself in a situation where someone can get seriously hurt. A curfew would also help her avoid triggering the suspended sentence as well which would do her a favour. That is what a judge should be taking in to account when making these very debatable decisions.[/p][/quote]If by institution you mean prison I'm not sure giving a prison sentence would help her rehabilitation in the slightest and she'd be pretty lucky to receive mental health treatment in there! Taking away her job & maybe her home & opportunity for treatment wouldn't benefit society in the long run. A curfew would make sense though.[/p][/quote]Sorry, I meant a mental health institution. However, the bottom line is that she is a serial repeat offender of violent crime and I doubt there is much you can do about that apart from the appropriate punishment which is prison, which in itself is a good a curfew as you can get.[/p][/quote]My point before was there isn't the resources to put someone in a mental health institution for one violent attack in four years. The emphasis now is on care in the community & there are people with much more serious problems left to live in the community because there isn't the space or resources. It's much cheaper to treat someone as an outpatient.[/p][/quote]Are you speaking based on fact or supposition? As someone within mental health services if there is a court referral it is dealt with. The majority of patients are managed effectively through outpatient services occasionally a stay is required to break the cycle be it depression, anxiety or other mental illness. Within supervised inpatient care progress is generally faster. As you say prison wouldn't have any benefit in this instance.[/p][/quote]I was speaking based on my own experience of being referred for (and having) CAT in Bournemouth. Her referral wasn't from the court, if you read the article she was already waiting when she got to court so perhaps speedier treatment would have prevented her attacking someone in the first place and perhaps the court could speed up her wait now. On top of that I've met numerous people through my work who are much more violent than the aforementioned lady and regularly arrested by the police and yet none of them have been committed to institutions, if it's not due to budget cuts and an emphasis on care in the community what would you say it is? rozmister
  • Score: 0

8:32pm Tue 12 Aug 14

S,Bowes says...

agp1337 wrote:
master plan wrote:
This country is so weak at passing a sentence. When visiting family in Florida there next door neighbour was arrested for drink driving with a child in the car. She was sentenced for 21 months inside.
The trouble is, it doesn't work. In Florida there are still lots of people drink-driving, in those states where there is the death penalty there are still regular murders. Even in Saudi Arabia where hands can be cut off for theft, there is still thieving. I'm not saying let her off, but harsh punishments aren't a panacea. Truth is, I don't know the answer; in fact I suspect there isn't one, which doesn't mean that we do nothing. We should not base punishment on a desire for revenge, though.
Forget the law the police have bailed out of an airplane in a tailspine the pilot ( council)don't give a **** where they land as long as it as a duty free. There is a speed camera on the landing strip,
Just encourage those near and dear to you .to behave .have some respect for others smile say Hello and don't judge others .And look up Dignity . The place as become a cecpit clean it up start by not hurting each other
[quote][p][bold]agp1337[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]master plan[/bold] wrote: This country is so weak at passing a sentence. When visiting family in Florida there next door neighbour was arrested for drink driving with a child in the car. She was sentenced for 21 months inside.[/p][/quote]The trouble is, it doesn't work. In Florida there are still lots of people drink-driving, in those states where there is the death penalty there are still regular murders. Even in Saudi Arabia where hands can be cut off for theft, there is still thieving. I'm not saying let her off, but harsh punishments aren't a panacea. Truth is, I don't know the answer; in fact I suspect there isn't one, which doesn't mean that we do nothing. We should not base punishment on a desire for revenge, though.[/p][/quote]Forget the law the police have bailed out of an airplane in a tailspine the pilot ( council)don't give a **** where they land as long as it as a duty free. There is a speed camera on the landing strip, Just encourage those near and dear to you .to behave .have some respect for others smile say Hello and don't judge others .And look up Dignity . The place as become a cecpit clean it up start by not hurting each other S,Bowes
  • Score: -6

9:37pm Tue 12 Aug 14

Nickydoonah says...

S,Bowes wrote:
agp1337 wrote:
master plan wrote:
This country is so weak at passing a sentence. When visiting family in Florida there next door neighbour was arrested for drink driving with a child in the car. She was sentenced for 21 months inside.
The trouble is, it doesn't work. In Florida there are still lots of people drink-driving, in those states where there is the death penalty there are still regular murders. Even in Saudi Arabia where hands can be cut off for theft, there is still thieving. I'm not saying let her off, but harsh punishments aren't a panacea. Truth is, I don't know the answer; in fact I suspect there isn't one, which doesn't mean that we do nothing. We should not base punishment on a desire for revenge, though.
Forget the law the police have bailed out of an airplane in a tailspine the pilot ( council)don't give a **** where they land as long as it as a duty free. There is a speed camera on the landing strip,
Just encourage those near and dear to you .to behave .have some respect for others smile say Hello and don't judge others .And look up Dignity . The place as become a cecpit clean it up start by not hurting each other
cecpit
you mean cac pit you know knobdirt.
[quote][p][bold]S,Bowes[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]agp1337[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]master plan[/bold] wrote: This country is so weak at passing a sentence. When visiting family in Florida there next door neighbour was arrested for drink driving with a child in the car. She was sentenced for 21 months inside.[/p][/quote]The trouble is, it doesn't work. In Florida there are still lots of people drink-driving, in those states where there is the death penalty there are still regular murders. Even in Saudi Arabia where hands can be cut off for theft, there is still thieving. I'm not saying let her off, but harsh punishments aren't a panacea. Truth is, I don't know the answer; in fact I suspect there isn't one, which doesn't mean that we do nothing. We should not base punishment on a desire for revenge, though.[/p][/quote]Forget the law the police have bailed out of an airplane in a tailspine the pilot ( council)don't give a **** where they land as long as it as a duty free. There is a speed camera on the landing strip, Just encourage those near and dear to you .to behave .have some respect for others smile say Hello and don't judge others .And look up Dignity . The place as become a cecpit clean it up start by not hurting each other[/p][/quote]cecpit you mean cac pit you know knobdirt. Nickydoonah
  • Score: -11

9:48pm Tue 12 Aug 14

twynhamob says...

Just realised who Boscombe92 is!!
Born in 1992 and loves the people of Boscombe and their specific traits. It is non other than the willful child of Judge Harrow trying to tell you that he is the best judge of all.
Just realised who Boscombe92 is!! Born in 1992 and loves the people of Boscombe and their specific traits. It is non other than the willful child of Judge Harrow trying to tell you that he is the best judge of all. twynhamob
  • Score: 1

10:24pm Tue 12 Aug 14

Yankee1 says...

Surely her issues are mental health ones?

Is there not a way to 'section' those who need evaluation and treatment and, if necessary, removal from society, to help them and to protect the public, in the UK?
Surely her issues are mental health ones? Is there not a way to 'section' those who need evaluation and treatment and, if necessary, removal from society, to help them and to protect the public, in the UK? Yankee1
  • Score: 7

10:49pm Tue 12 Aug 14

holdinkæft says...

BH1 loyal wrote:
Boscomite wrote:
BH1 loyal wrote:
Again I have to say it, you really are a sad bunch, why would you all want a 21 one year old female in jail ? If the offence warranted jail, that is where she would be, if she was unemployed you would have all blamed it on that, however she is employed, she is young, she has received her punishment and has a chance to live a good life, you are all the real life victor meldrews that originally got dorset it's reputation for being a boring place where you wait to die, I think some of you must be bitter that you are still here with your old useless selves, angry that you can't do the things you once could, don't worry guys not long now.
It has nothing to do with age or gender. If it had been a 19 year old male, I suspect you would also be baying for blood.
No I would not, why on earth would I want to see a 19 year old in jail ? How serious was the injury she caused, not how serious it could of been, I want to know how serious the actual injury was.
What has she been up to before?
[quote][p][bold]BH1 loyal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Boscomite[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BH1 loyal[/bold] wrote: Again I have to say it, you really are a sad bunch, why would you all want a 21 one year old female in jail ? If the offence warranted jail, that is where she would be, if she was unemployed you would have all blamed it on that, however she is employed, she is young, she has received her punishment and has a chance to live a good life, you are all the real life victor meldrews that originally got dorset it's reputation for being a boring place where you wait to die, I think some of you must be bitter that you are still here with your old useless selves, angry that you can't do the things you once could, don't worry guys not long now.[/p][/quote]It has nothing to do with age or gender. If it had been a 19 year old male, I suspect you would also be baying for blood.[/p][/quote]No I would not, why on earth would I want to see a 19 year old in jail ? How serious was the injury she caused, not how serious it could of been, I want to know how serious the actual injury was.[/p][/quote]What has she been up to before? holdinkæft
  • Score: -2

11:24pm Tue 12 Aug 14

podgie says...

podgie wrote:
BH1 loyal wrote:
Imagine this girl was a gypsy or as you weirdos call it part of "the irish caravan club" or even worse imagine she was from or the incident had happened in boscombe, a couple of your favourite subjects you would all be in meltdown, surely some of you must get bored commenting the same things over and over again how many more times do you want to moan about judges ? Maybe just maybe you don't have a clue about sentencing.
Bh1 loyal
Maybe you just don't have a clue ........The only one sounding slightly BARKING is yourself
BH 1 Loyal
May I suggest nobody replies to any more of your posts that only give you a small break from your usual internet activity,trousers down etc....
I know you are lonely and want some sort of attention,but please give us all a rest and seek help......
[quote][p][bold]podgie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BH1 loyal[/bold] wrote: Imagine this girl was a gypsy or as you weirdos call it part of "the irish caravan club" or even worse imagine she was from or the incident had happened in boscombe, a couple of your favourite subjects you would all be in meltdown, surely some of you must get bored commenting the same things over and over again how many more times do you want to moan about judges ? Maybe just maybe you don't have a clue about sentencing.[/p][/quote]Bh1 loyal Maybe you just don't have a clue ........The only one sounding slightly BARKING is yourself[/p][/quote]BH 1 Loyal May I suggest nobody replies to any more of your posts that only give you a small break from your usual internet activity,trousers down etc.... I know you are lonely and want some sort of attention,but please give us all a rest and seek help...... podgie
  • Score: 11

11:54pm Tue 12 Aug 14

breamoreboy says...

bobthedestroyer wrote:
Bournemouth Ohec wrote:
So what do you actually have to do to go to prison these days?
Defraud the government in some way pretty much guarantees it otherwise it's pot luck.
Wrong. The couple reported the other week had swindled masses of benefits but escaped prison because of the kids. However perhaps parking on triple yellow lines would do it?
[quote][p][bold]bobthedestroyer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bournemouth Ohec[/bold] wrote: So what do you actually have to do to go to prison these days?[/p][/quote]Defraud the government in some way pretty much guarantees it otherwise it's pot luck.[/p][/quote]Wrong. The couple reported the other week had swindled masses of benefits but escaped prison because of the kids. However perhaps parking on triple yellow lines would do it? breamoreboy
  • Score: 7

11:59pm Tue 12 Aug 14

breamoreboy says...

LeeThorne wrote:
Pretty sad your all ganging up on a 21 year old girl. The courts have said whats what so get on with your lives.
A 21 year old woman who is averaging one assault for every year of her life. If she doesn't qualify to be sectioned under the mental health laws who does?
[quote][p][bold]LeeThorne[/bold] wrote: Pretty sad your all ganging up on a 21 year old girl. The courts have said whats what so get on with your lives.[/p][/quote]A 21 year old woman who is averaging one assault for every year of her life. If she doesn't qualify to be sectioned under the mental health laws who does? breamoreboy
  • Score: 19

12:44pm Wed 13 Aug 14

bogtrotter says...

Does anyone actually feel sorry for the Estate Agents here? I really, really dislike them if I'm allowed to stereotype for just a moment but if this girl is an office junior, which I would guess she is, they wouldn't be required to do a large amount of due diligence/vetting on her. This is massively bad publicity for them and it wouldn't surprise me if they took action on The Echo for name association. After all, being a 21 year old female, you'd probably take her word for it that she hasn't had 18 convictions for violent offences, I probably would.
Does anyone actually feel sorry for the Estate Agents here? I really, really dislike them if I'm allowed to stereotype for just a moment but if this girl is an office junior, which I would guess she is, they wouldn't be required to do a large amount of due diligence/vetting on her. This is massively bad publicity for them and it wouldn't surprise me if they took action on The Echo for name association. After all, being a 21 year old female, you'd probably take her word for it that she hasn't had 18 convictions for violent offences, I probably would. bogtrotter
  • Score: 4

1:06pm Wed 13 Aug 14

user333 says...

I see this girl and I call her a girl as a woman wouldn't have this behavior every day in Westbourne and she walks around with no remorse for what she's done. Firstly she should off gone to prison. How many more times is she going to assault people? Secondly Palmer Snell should sack her due to the fact she is bring the company's name in disrespect. Not only is she a sales negotiator and left with the public only she is also supposed to be an ambassador for the company image.
I see this girl and I call her a girl as a woman wouldn't have this behavior every day in Westbourne and she walks around with no remorse for what she's done. Firstly she should off gone to prison. How many more times is she going to assault people? Secondly Palmer Snell should sack her due to the fact she is bring the company's name in disrespect. Not only is she a sales negotiator and left with the public only she is also supposed to be an ambassador for the company image. user333
  • Score: 9

1:15pm Wed 13 Aug 14

user333 says...

I see this girl and I call her a girl as she's no woman, in Westbourne every day walking about and you can see she has no remorse for what she's done. Firstly she should be in prison. 18 assults and I bet it won't stop there. Secondly Palmer Snell should sack her. Not only is she a sales negotiator she is also an ambassador for the company and her action brings Palmer Snell name Into disrespect. Thirdly I think the judge needs to go back to law school, to let this nasty piece off work walk free.
I see this girl and I call her a girl as she's no woman, in Westbourne every day walking about and you can see she has no remorse for what she's done. Firstly she should be in prison. 18 assults and I bet it won't stop there. Secondly Palmer Snell should sack her. Not only is she a sales negotiator she is also an ambassador for the company and her action brings Palmer Snell name Into disrespect. Thirdly I think the judge needs to go back to law school, to let this nasty piece off work walk free. user333
  • Score: 9

1:40pm Wed 13 Aug 14

scrumpyjack says...

retry69 wrote:
Lord Spring wrote:
MMM444 wrote:
Asked her for the last dance one night, she refused and knocked me spark out.
Did she damage your Beer Goggles.
"Knocked me spark out" ? I assume that refers to a cigarette :)
That's funny.
[quote][p][bold]retry69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lord Spring[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MMM444[/bold] wrote: Asked her for the last dance one night, she refused and knocked me spark out.[/p][/quote]Did she damage your Beer Goggles.[/p][/quote]"Knocked me spark out" ? I assume that refers to a cigarette :)[/p][/quote]That's funny. scrumpyjack
  • Score: -3

1:44pm Wed 13 Aug 14

sweetness82 says...

this is fab! i can now say im depressed and get away with anything i want too - robbing, setting fires, bashing people to death!

great justice system we have here!!!!!!!!!

what a load of crap - she should have been put in jail on the 1st assult!
this is fab! i can now say im depressed and get away with anything i want too - robbing, setting fires, bashing people to death! great justice system we have here!!!!!!!!! what a load of crap - she should have been put in jail on the 1st assult! sweetness82
  • Score: 3

1:48pm Wed 13 Aug 14

retry69 says...

scrumpyjack wrote:
retry69 wrote:
Lord Spring wrote:
MMM444 wrote:
Asked her for the last dance one night, she refused and knocked me spark out.
Did she damage your Beer Goggles.
"Knocked me spark out" ? I assume that refers to a cigarette :)
That's funny.
Easily pleased :)
[quote][p][bold]scrumpyjack[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]retry69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lord Spring[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MMM444[/bold] wrote: Asked her for the last dance one night, she refused and knocked me spark out.[/p][/quote]Did she damage your Beer Goggles.[/p][/quote]"Knocked me spark out" ? I assume that refers to a cigarette :)[/p][/quote]That's funny.[/p][/quote]Easily pleased :) retry69
  • Score: 0

1:56pm Wed 13 Aug 14

beachcomber1 says...

Wageslave wrote:
S,Bowes wrote:
TimAFCB wrote:
S,Bowes wrote:
Bournemouth/Poole must be the most unpleasant towns in the country .who the Hell would want to holiday here, public's places taken over by nomadic thieving scum,hammer wielding thugs in the suburbs .And this out of control woman masquerading as an Estate agent during the day then disfiguring people after .And all these ratbags allowed to walk the,streets .some celebrity arrives and get accused of blocking the life boat .total rubbish. And a bloke going about his business bullied by the police who were obviously bogged of because they had yo get out of their car .for have a comedy hooter .The place needs an image consultant
I think you have led a very sheltered life. In most parts of the country a glassing would not make the news at all as far worse happens everyday. Try living elsewhere then you would see how good this area really is.
Being better than the worst is what starts a a race to the bottom,as for living elsewhere .I do and would hate to return.I left an upmarket well ordered town .the place was fun,clean law abbiding the holiday makers was the mainstay of the economy police walked amongst the people .the council were respected .now it seems drug rehab as taken over as the main industry .honest artisans are challenged by corrupt lawless nomads.I wish you well in your chosen town
You are absolutely right in everything you say, after 45 years I now hate it here but I have family including Grandchildren here , so for now I need to stay but can't wait to get out..
lol good luck in trying to find anywhere better! there are no perfect places in the world.
[quote][p][bold]Wageslave[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]S,Bowes[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TimAFCB[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]S,Bowes[/bold] wrote: Bournemouth/Poole must be the most unpleasant towns in the country .who the Hell would want to holiday here, public's places taken over by nomadic thieving scum,hammer wielding thugs in the suburbs .And this out of control woman masquerading as an Estate agent during the day then disfiguring people after .And all these ratbags allowed to walk the,streets .some celebrity arrives and get accused of blocking the life boat .total rubbish. And a bloke going about his business bullied by the police who were obviously bogged of because they had yo get out of their car .for have a comedy hooter .The place needs an image consultant[/p][/quote]I think you have led a very sheltered life. In most parts of the country a glassing would not make the news at all as far worse happens everyday. Try living elsewhere then you would see how good this area really is.[/p][/quote]Being better than the worst is what starts a a race to the bottom,as for living elsewhere .I do and would hate to return.I left an upmarket well ordered town .the place was fun,clean law abbiding the holiday makers was the mainstay of the economy police walked amongst the people .the council were respected .now it seems drug rehab as taken over as the main industry .honest artisans are challenged by corrupt lawless nomads.I wish you well in your chosen town[/p][/quote]You are absolutely right in everything you say, after 45 years I now hate it here but I have family including Grandchildren here , so for now I need to stay but can't wait to get out..[/p][/quote]lol good luck in trying to find anywhere better! there are no perfect places in the world. beachcomber1
  • Score: 8

3:55pm Wed 13 Aug 14

dorsettech says...

I'm shocked at people defending a violent crime.

I have seen the mentality of the "groups" who act like queen bees in these establishments and some of them are clearly looking for trouble.
I'm shocked at people defending a violent crime. I have seen the mentality of the "groups" who act like queen bees in these establishments and some of them are clearly looking for trouble. dorsettech
  • Score: 12

3:13am Thu 14 Aug 14

Bob49 says...

Yankee1 wrote:
Surely her issues are mental health ones?

Is there not a way to 'section' those who need evaluation and treatment and, if necessary, removal from society, to help them and to protect the public, in the UK?
thank god they are only 'ishhooooos'

for one moment i thought they might be problems
[quote][p][bold]Yankee1[/bold] wrote: Surely her issues are mental health ones? Is there not a way to 'section' those who need evaluation and treatment and, if necessary, removal from society, to help them and to protect the public, in the UK?[/p][/quote]thank god they are only 'ishhooooos' for one moment i thought they might be problems Bob49
  • Score: 6

10:05pm Thu 14 Aug 14

stevobath says...

Yankee1 wrote:
Surely her issues are mental health ones?

Is there not a way to 'section' those who need evaluation and treatment and, if necessary, removal from society, to help them and to protect the public, in the UK?
Surely you'd use your' large gun collection to 'deal' with her? That seems to be your answer to most crimes?

Gun toting 'Murican's' don't you just love 'em? (not)
[quote][p][bold]Yankee1[/bold] wrote: Surely her issues are mental health ones? Is there not a way to 'section' those who need evaluation and treatment and, if necessary, removal from society, to help them and to protect the public, in the UK?[/p][/quote]Surely you'd use your' large gun collection to 'deal' with her? That seems to be your answer to most crimes? Gun toting 'Murican's' don't you just love 'em? (not) stevobath
  • Score: 0

10:08pm Thu 14 Aug 14

stevobath says...

Nickydoonah wrote:
S,Bowes wrote:
agp1337 wrote:
master plan wrote:
This country is so weak at passing a sentence. When visiting family in Florida there next door neighbour was arrested for drink driving with a child in the car. She was sentenced for 21 months inside.
The trouble is, it doesn't work. In Florida there are still lots of people drink-driving, in those states where there is the death penalty there are still regular murders. Even in Saudi Arabia where hands can be cut off for theft, there is still thieving. I'm not saying let her off, but harsh punishments aren't a panacea. Truth is, I don't know the answer; in fact I suspect there isn't one, which doesn't mean that we do nothing. We should not base punishment on a desire for revenge, though.
Forget the law the police have bailed out of an airplane in a tailspine the pilot ( council)don't give a **** where they land as long as it as a duty free. There is a speed camera on the landing strip,
Just encourage those near and dear to you .to behave .have some respect for others smile say Hello and don't judge others .And look up Dignity . The place as become a cecpit clean it up start by not hurting each other
cecpit
you mean cac pit you know knobdirt.
It's actually 'cesspit'.. I'm surprised you don't know, as I'm sure your' bedroom looks like one, at least until Mummy gives you pocket money to tidy up?
[quote][p][bold]Nickydoonah[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]S,Bowes[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]agp1337[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]master plan[/bold] wrote: This country is so weak at passing a sentence. When visiting family in Florida there next door neighbour was arrested for drink driving with a child in the car. She was sentenced for 21 months inside.[/p][/quote]The trouble is, it doesn't work. In Florida there are still lots of people drink-driving, in those states where there is the death penalty there are still regular murders. Even in Saudi Arabia where hands can be cut off for theft, there is still thieving. I'm not saying let her off, but harsh punishments aren't a panacea. Truth is, I don't know the answer; in fact I suspect there isn't one, which doesn't mean that we do nothing. We should not base punishment on a desire for revenge, though.[/p][/quote]Forget the law the police have bailed out of an airplane in a tailspine the pilot ( council)don't give a **** where they land as long as it as a duty free. There is a speed camera on the landing strip, Just encourage those near and dear to you .to behave .have some respect for others smile say Hello and don't judge others .And look up Dignity . The place as become a cecpit clean it up start by not hurting each other[/p][/quote]cecpit you mean cac pit you know knobdirt.[/p][/quote]It's actually 'cesspit'.. I'm surprised you don't know, as I'm sure your' bedroom looks like one, at least until Mummy gives you pocket money to tidy up? stevobath
  • Score: 2

12:41pm Fri 15 Aug 14

sunny1966 says...

Ummmmm sounds like a classic case of favours in return nosh nosh :)
Ummmmm sounds like a classic case of favours in return nosh nosh :) sunny1966
  • Score: 1

9:33am Sat 16 Aug 14

wilkiemini says...

Palmer snell shame on you ......throw this lowlife to the curb or lose business because of her!
Palmer snell shame on you ......throw this lowlife to the curb or lose business because of her! wilkiemini
  • Score: 9

7:47am Sun 17 Aug 14

ranger_bob says...

TimAFCB wrote:
S,Bowes wrote:
Bournemouth/Poole must be the most unpleasant towns in the country .who the Hell would want to holiday here, public's places taken over by nomadic thieving scum,hammer wielding thugs in the suburbs .And this out of control woman masquerading as an Estate agent during the day then disfiguring people after .And all these ratbags allowed to walk the,streets .some celebrity arrives and get accused of blocking the life boat .total rubbish. And a bloke going about his business bullied by the police who were obviously bogged of because they had yo get out of their car .for have a comedy hooter .The place needs an image consultant
I think you have led a very sheltered life. In most parts of the country a glassing would not make the news at all as far worse happens everyday. Try living elsewhere then you would see how good this area really is.
That is the most pointless comment imaginable.

We don't live elsewhere, we live here (but not for much longer thankfully) so we have to deal with the problems faced in our own area. Things may be worse in the inner city slums, sink estates or the Gaza Strip but that doesn't have an impact on our day to day lives. Living in the declining area of Bournemouth does.
[quote][p][bold]TimAFCB[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]S,Bowes[/bold] wrote: Bournemouth/Poole must be the most unpleasant towns in the country .who the Hell would want to holiday here, public's places taken over by nomadic thieving scum,hammer wielding thugs in the suburbs .And this out of control woman masquerading as an Estate agent during the day then disfiguring people after .And all these ratbags allowed to walk the,streets .some celebrity arrives and get accused of blocking the life boat .total rubbish. And a bloke going about his business bullied by the police who were obviously bogged of because they had yo get out of their car .for have a comedy hooter .The place needs an image consultant[/p][/quote]I think you have led a very sheltered life. In most parts of the country a glassing would not make the news at all as far worse happens everyday. Try living elsewhere then you would see how good this area really is.[/p][/quote]That is the most pointless comment imaginable. We don't live elsewhere, we live here (but not for much longer thankfully) so we have to deal with the problems faced in our own area. Things may be worse in the inner city slums, sink estates or the Gaza Strip but that doesn't have an impact on our day to day lives. Living in the declining area of Bournemouth does. ranger_bob
  • Score: 2

2:44pm Sun 17 Aug 14

VAGINADINER says...

Needs locking up before she "accidentally" kills someone....
Needs locking up before she "accidentally" kills someone.... VAGINADINER
  • Score: 4

5:35pm Sun 17 Aug 14

holdinkæft says...

ranger_bob wrote:
TimAFCB wrote:
S,Bowes wrote:
Bournemouth/Poole must be the most unpleasant towns in the country .who the Hell would want to holiday here, public's places taken over by nomadic thieving scum,hammer wielding thugs in the suburbs .And this out of control woman masquerading as an Estate agent during the day then disfiguring people after .And all these ratbags allowed to walk the,streets .some celebrity arrives and get accused of blocking the life boat .total rubbish. And a bloke going about his business bullied by the police who were obviously bogged of because they had yo get out of their car .for have a comedy hooter .The place needs an image consultant
I think you have led a very sheltered life. In most parts of the country a glassing would not make the news at all as far worse happens everyday. Try living elsewhere then you would see how good this area really is.
That is the most pointless comment imaginable.

We don't live elsewhere, we live here (but not for much longer thankfully) so we have to deal with the problems faced in our own area. Things may be worse in the inner city slums, sink estates or the Gaza Strip but that doesn't have an impact on our day to day lives. Living in the declining area of Bournemouth does.
Have you tried Kibera slum,
[quote][p][bold]ranger_bob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TimAFCB[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]S,Bowes[/bold] wrote: Bournemouth/Poole must be the most unpleasant towns in the country .who the Hell would want to holiday here, public's places taken over by nomadic thieving scum,hammer wielding thugs in the suburbs .And this out of control woman masquerading as an Estate agent during the day then disfiguring people after .And all these ratbags allowed to walk the,streets .some celebrity arrives and get accused of blocking the life boat .total rubbish. And a bloke going about his business bullied by the police who were obviously bogged of because they had yo get out of their car .for have a comedy hooter .The place needs an image consultant[/p][/quote]I think you have led a very sheltered life. In most parts of the country a glassing would not make the news at all as far worse happens everyday. Try living elsewhere then you would see how good this area really is.[/p][/quote]That is the most pointless comment imaginable. We don't live elsewhere, we live here (but not for much longer thankfully) so we have to deal with the problems faced in our own area. Things may be worse in the inner city slums, sink estates or the Gaza Strip but that doesn't have an impact on our day to day lives. Living in the declining area of Bournemouth does.[/p][/quote]Have you tried Kibera slum, holdinkæft
  • Score: 0

5:56pm Sun 17 Aug 14

828321 says...

Bournemouth Ohec wrote:
So what do you actually have to do to go to prison these days?
Non payment of council tax... that's about it I think.
[quote][p][bold]Bournemouth Ohec[/bold] wrote: So what do you actually have to do to go to prison these days?[/p][/quote]Non payment of council tax... that's about it I think. 828321
  • Score: 3

7:35pm Sun 17 Aug 14

breamoreboy says...

CHESILDENECHERRY wrote:
IF THIS WAS A BLOKE, PRISON WOULD BE CERTAIN. WOMEN GET A WAY WITH A LOT IN THIS JUSTICE SYTEM, ABSOLUTE JOKE!!!!
I agree with what you say, but there's no need to shout, thank you.
[quote][p][bold]CHESILDENECHERRY[/bold] wrote: IF THIS WAS A BLOKE, PRISON WOULD BE CERTAIN. WOMEN GET A WAY WITH A LOT IN THIS JUSTICE SYTEM, ABSOLUTE JOKE!!!![/p][/quote]I agree with what you say, but there's no need to shout, thank you. breamoreboy
  • Score: 3

7:39pm Sun 17 Aug 14

breamoreboy says...

S,Bowes wrote:
TimAFCB wrote:
S,Bowes wrote:
Bournemouth/Poole must be the most unpleasant towns in the country .who the Hell would want to holiday here, public's places taken over by nomadic thieving scum,hammer wielding thugs in the suburbs .And this out of control woman masquerading as an Estate agent during the day then disfiguring people after .And all these ratbags allowed to walk the,streets .some celebrity arrives and get accused of blocking the life boat .total rubbish. And a bloke going about his business bullied by the police who were obviously bogged of because they had yo get out of their car .for have a comedy hooter .The place needs an image consultant
I think you have led a very sheltered life. In most parts of the country a glassing would not make the news at all as far worse happens everyday. Try living elsewhere then you would see how good this area really is.
Being better than the worst is what starts a a race to the bottom,as for living elsewhere .I do and would hate to return.I left an upmarket well ordered town .the place was fun,clean law abbiding the holiday makers was the mainstay of the economy police walked amongst the people .the council were respected .now it seems drug rehab as taken over as the main industry .honest artisans are challenged by corrupt lawless nomads.I wish you well in your chosen town
Where were you from? I'd like to know so that nobody else moves there as the schools are clearly appalling. Or did you simply skip all your English lessons?
[quote][p][bold]S,Bowes[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TimAFCB[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]S,Bowes[/bold] wrote: Bournemouth/Poole must be the most unpleasant towns in the country .who the Hell would want to holiday here, public's places taken over by nomadic thieving scum,hammer wielding thugs in the suburbs .And this out of control woman masquerading as an Estate agent during the day then disfiguring people after .And all these ratbags allowed to walk the,streets .some celebrity arrives and get accused of blocking the life boat .total rubbish. And a bloke going about his business bullied by the police who were obviously bogged of because they had yo get out of their car .for have a comedy hooter .The place needs an image consultant[/p][/quote]I think you have led a very sheltered life. In most parts of the country a glassing would not make the news at all as far worse happens everyday. Try living elsewhere then you would see how good this area really is.[/p][/quote]Being better than the worst is what starts a a race to the bottom,as for living elsewhere .I do and would hate to return.I left an upmarket well ordered town .the place was fun,clean law abbiding the holiday makers was the mainstay of the economy police walked amongst the people .the council were respected .now it seems drug rehab as taken over as the main industry .honest artisans are challenged by corrupt lawless nomads.I wish you well in your chosen town[/p][/quote]Where were you from? I'd like to know so that nobody else moves there as the schools are clearly appalling. Or did you simply skip all your English lessons? breamoreboy
  • Score: 0

7:44pm Sun 17 Aug 14

breamoreboy says...

Quakers2 wrote:
Nickydoonah wrote:
I asked her for the last but one dance one night ,she refused and sold me a bedsit next door to nobath George you know
thank goodness I had a cooling period
You should be locked up with her!
Sorry I believe that to be way over the top. I believe that punishment should fit the crime, but I wouldn't put a murderer in with nickynoodah.
[quote][p][bold]Quakers2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nickydoonah[/bold] wrote: I asked her for the last but one dance one night ,she refused and sold me a bedsit next door to nobath George you know thank goodness I had a cooling period[/p][/quote]You should be locked up with her![/p][/quote]Sorry I believe that to be way over the top. I believe that punishment should fit the crime, but I wouldn't put a murderer in with nickynoodah. breamoreboy
  • Score: 0

11:15pm Sun 17 Aug 14

Mrs C. A Townend says...

ShuttleX wrote:
Audrey Archer, mitigating, said Thomas, who works at Palmer Snell Estate Agents in Westbourne, had been diagnosed with an emotionally-unstable personality disorder and had struggled to manage her temper from childhood...........



They always have an excuse don't they? Nothing to do with the fact the woman is a pi55 head who can't control her temper. They should have sent her down for at least a year. If nothing else, that would protect other people in town while she tries and copes with her "emotionally-un
stabl
e personality disorder " Where do they make these names up?

I wonder what she would do to one of her clients if she didn't like them? After all, it wouldn't be her fault would it? She suffers form a disorder, so can get away with murder. Hopefully her employers will now sack her. After all, they are aware of her temper, so they could be sued if she hit any customer.

I would also interested to hear if she received a Pub Watch ban? It would help the public if this nutter was banned from every pub/club in the area. Doubt if Pub Watch did that though, as it would mean not making money off her. After all, what's one more person getting glassed?
I had a diagnosis of eubpd, but I don't behave like this. I find it very stigmatizing when people behave like this, then get diagnosed with it. People with my diagnosis have been through a lot of trauma, often to a point where they are too scared to stand up for themselves which results in them getting hurt themselves. eubpd is not an excuse to behave like this and its very sad to see people who do be labelled with a mental illness that i know as a past sufferer fight hard to overcome.
[quote][p][bold]ShuttleX[/bold] wrote: Audrey Archer, mitigating, said Thomas, who works at Palmer Snell Estate Agents in Westbourne, had been diagnosed with an emotionally-unstable personality disorder and had struggled to manage her temper from childhood........... They always have an excuse don't they? Nothing to do with the fact the woman is a pi55 head who can't control her temper. They should have sent her down for at least a year. If nothing else, that would protect other people in town while she tries and copes with her "emotionally-un stabl e personality disorder " Where do they make these names up? I wonder what she would do to one of her clients if she didn't like them? After all, it wouldn't be her fault would it? She suffers form a disorder, so can get away with murder. Hopefully her employers will now sack her. After all, they are aware of her temper, so they could be sued if she hit any customer. I would also interested to hear if she received a Pub Watch ban? It would help the public if this nutter was banned from every pub/club in the area. Doubt if Pub Watch did that though, as it would mean not making money off her. After all, what's one more person getting glassed?[/p][/quote]I had a diagnosis of eubpd, but I don't behave like this. I find it very stigmatizing when people behave like this, then get diagnosed with it. People with my diagnosis have been through a lot of trauma, often to a point where they are too scared to stand up for themselves which results in them getting hurt themselves. eubpd is not an excuse to behave like this and its very sad to see people who do be labelled with a mental illness that i know as a past sufferer fight hard to overcome. Mrs C. A Townend
  • Score: 2

11:25pm Sun 17 Aug 14

Mrs C. A Townend says...

Can I just add that I wish the victim well.
Can I just add that I wish the victim well. Mrs C. A Townend
  • Score: 3

5:48pm Mon 18 Aug 14

griddlekip says...

BIGTONE wrote:
Describing her record as “breathtaking”, Judge Harrow handed Thomas, who had pleaded guilty, to a 12-month suspended sentence.


It won't be long before it will be "lifetaking" instead.
Very lucky she hasn't done that already.
She should be banged up in a secure mental unit for her own good as well as the public.

No lesson has been learnt here.
Get this nasty evil **** off the streets and out of all pubs and clubs.
View a property from her estate agents at your own peril!!!!!!!!
What on earth is this 'judge' , I use the term extremely loosely, doing. He is not protecting the innocent chap who got glassed and he certainly is not protecting the public in Bournemouth.
But then I suppose that as she is allowed to come and go as she pleases, there will no doubt be another 'fine' for her shortly and lets face it, we all know only too well how much the police and the courts need the money !!!
[quote][p][bold]BIGTONE[/bold] wrote: Describing her record as “breathtaking”, Judge Harrow handed Thomas, who had pleaded guilty, to a 12-month suspended sentence. It won't be long before it will be "lifetaking" instead. Very lucky she hasn't done that already. She should be banged up in a secure mental unit for her own good as well as the public. No lesson has been learnt here.[/p][/quote]Get this nasty evil **** off the streets and out of all pubs and clubs. View a property from her estate agents at your own peril!!!!!!!! What on earth is this 'judge' , I use the term extremely loosely, doing. He is not protecting the innocent chap who got glassed and he certainly is not protecting the public in Bournemouth. But then I suppose that as she is allowed to come and go as she pleases, there will no doubt be another 'fine' for her shortly and lets face it, we all know only too well how much the police and the courts need the money !!! griddlekip
  • Score: 1

10:24am Tue 26 Aug 14

Mr_Doubtfire says...

I'm sure it wont be long before she's back in the Echo..after all “Leopards don’t change their spots.”
This case only serves to illustrate how there appears to be bias towards women with mental disorders. They can commit almost any crime, but they are looked upon and often treated as the victim. However, a man in a similar situation would most probably be dealt with very differently, not to mention universally condemned for glassing a pretty 21 year old woman. I can imagine women having a 'field day' with this story if roles had been reversed. It would be another example of a “man's brutality towards women”, women who never do any wrong, they're like angels …..
Would there be anyone on here defending the actions of a man who clearly could not control his drinking, nor his temper and as result carried out such a vile assault on an innocent person? I seriously doubt it! And what reaction would we get if we were to find out that the guilty parties employer had seen fit to NOT sack them in the light of their crime?

There is much criticism here, claiming the Echo should have not published this story in the way that they did. I would disagree with this entirely, I'm sure the individuals responsible for writing this article feel totally disgusted at the courts decision. Without doubt, Miss Thomas should be locked up and at the same time be receiving treatment for her mental disorder. If she is unable to control her mood swings and has a propensity towards violence, she clearly represents a danger to herself and the general public.
I'm sure it wont be long before she's back in the Echo..after all “Leopards don’t change their spots.” This case only serves to illustrate how there appears to be bias towards women with mental disorders. They can commit almost any crime, but they are looked upon and often treated as the victim. However, a man in a similar situation would most probably be dealt with very differently, not to mention universally condemned for glassing a pretty 21 year old woman. I can imagine women having a 'field day' with this story if roles had been reversed. It would be another example of a “man's brutality towards women”, women who never do any wrong, they're like angels ….. Would there be anyone on here defending the actions of a man who clearly could not control his drinking, nor his temper and as result carried out such a vile assault on an innocent person? I seriously doubt it! And what reaction would we get if we were to find out that the guilty parties employer had seen fit to NOT sack them in the light of their crime? There is much criticism here, claiming the Echo should have not published this story in the way that they did. I would disagree with this entirely, I'm sure the individuals responsible for writing this article feel totally disgusted at the courts decision. Without doubt, Miss Thomas should be locked up and at the same time be receiving treatment for her mental disorder. If she is unable to control her mood swings and has a propensity towards violence, she clearly represents a danger to herself and the general public. Mr_Doubtfire
  • Score: 0

10:33am Tue 26 Aug 14

Mr_Doubtfire says...

I'm sure it wont be too long before she's back in the Echo..after all “Leopards don’t change their spots.”
This case only serves to illustrate how there appears to be bias towards women with mental disorders. They can commit almost any crime, but they are looked upon and often treated as the victim. However, a man in a similar situation would most probably be dealt with very differently, not to mention universally condemned for glassing a pretty 21 year old woman. I can imagine women having a 'field day' with this story if roles had been reversed. It would be another example of a “man's brutality towards women”, women who never do any wrong, they're like angels …..
Would there be anyone on here defending the actions of a man who clearly could not control his drinking, nor his temper and as result carried out such a vile assault on an innocent person? I seriously doubt it! And what reaction would we get if we were to find out that the guilty parties employer had seen fit to NOT sack them in the light of their crime? Hopefully, I am proven wrong here and she has been dismissed for gross misconduct.

There is much criticism here, claiming the Echo should have not presented this story in the way they did. I would disagree with this entirely, I'm sure the individuals responsible for writing this article feel totally disgusted at the courts decision. Without doubt, Miss Thomas should be locked up and at the same time be receiving treatment for her mental disorder. If she is unable to control her mood swings and has a propensity towards violence, she clearly represents a danger to herself and the general public.
I'm sure it wont be too long before she's back in the Echo..after all “Leopards don’t change their spots.” This case only serves to illustrate how there appears to be bias towards women with mental disorders. They can commit almost any crime, but they are looked upon and often treated as the victim. However, a man in a similar situation would most probably be dealt with very differently, not to mention universally condemned for glassing a pretty 21 year old woman. I can imagine women having a 'field day' with this story if roles had been reversed. It would be another example of a “man's brutality towards women”, women who never do any wrong, they're like angels ….. Would there be anyone on here defending the actions of a man who clearly could not control his drinking, nor his temper and as result carried out such a vile assault on an innocent person? I seriously doubt it! And what reaction would we get if we were to find out that the guilty parties employer had seen fit to NOT sack them in the light of their crime? Hopefully, I am proven wrong here and she has been dismissed for gross misconduct. There is much criticism here, claiming the Echo should have not presented this story in the way they did. I would disagree with this entirely, I'm sure the individuals responsible for writing this article feel totally disgusted at the courts decision. Without doubt, Miss Thomas should be locked up and at the same time be receiving treatment for her mental disorder. If she is unable to control her mood swings and has a propensity towards violence, she clearly represents a danger to herself and the general public. Mr_Doubtfire
  • Score: 0

1:11pm Thu 28 Aug 14

emsylou85 says...

I got a stalker like her only he has committed a lot more offences it's going to court for a restraining order but people who have these issues need serious help but the press aren't aware of that and the professionals are too few and too scared to do anything so it's gonna keep happening
I got a stalker like her only he has committed a lot more offences it's going to court for a restraining order but people who have these issues need serious help but the press aren't aware of that and the professionals are too few and too scared to do anything so it's gonna keep happening emsylou85
  • Score: 0

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