Powers to tackle “party houses”? You’ve already got them, Poole council told

Powers to tackle “party houses”? You’ve already got them, Poole council told

ISSUE: Canford Cliffs Avenue in Poole

Terry Stewart, president of the Branksome Park, Canford Cliffs and District Residents’ Association

Sally Carpenter

First published in News by

A GOVERNMENT minister has said that the council “already has strong powers” to tackle the problem of party houses in Poole.

Brandon Lewis MP made the statement after receiving a letter about the notorious problem of homes in Canford Cliffs and Branksome Park being let out by the night for raucous parties.

In his response the minister for housing and planning wrote: “Local authorities already have strong powers to force private sector landlords to tackle anti-social behaviour of their tenants.”

Signposting ‘selective licensing’ as a means to address the issue, he added: “Councils can require landlords to obtain a licence for each property within the designated area.

“Where a landlord fails to effectively deal with anti-social behaviour, the licence can be revoked and the landlord will no longer be able to rent out the property.”

He was responding to Parkstone Councillor Sally Carpenter’s letter to Eric Pickles MP, in which she called for legislative changes to tackle the notorious problem.

Mr Lewis referred to legal powers available to police and council to tackle antisocial behaviour by tenants, concluding that local officials “have sufficient powers to deal with these matters.”

Terry Stewart, president of the Branksome Park, Canford Cliffs and District Residents’ Association, said: “This problem has been going on since August 2011 and the council has failed to get any kind of grip on it.

“Here is a statement from the minister for heaven’s sake saying the council can get a grip on it – but as before the council are rejecting any suggestions.”

Cllr Carpenter told the Echo she had been back in touch with the MP – forwarding on a response from Borough of Poole’s enforcement officer which detailed the actions being taken by Borough of Poole.

She added: “I have asked if there is anything else we can possibly do that we are not doing – and I am awaiting his response.

“It’s appalling that people have to suffer with these party houses. I feel like there should be more enforcement, more government legislation to stop this happening because it’s miserable for these residents.”

Residents of Canford Cliffs and Branksome Park have been beset by noise and anti-social behaviour from homes rented out for big family, stag and hen parties – to the extent they have formed their own Party House Action Group.

The problem was set out by Poole MP Robert Syms at a Westminster debate in the spring. He outlined a catalogue of complaints including drunken revellers playing football in gardens at 3am, prostitutes arriving at all hours, thumping music all night, blow-up sex toys left in full view of the street and drunks climbing trees.

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6:37am Thu 7 Aug 14

fedupwithjobsworths says...

Likewise our councils have enough powers to deal with travelers, their staff just lack the ability to get the job done.
Likewise our councils have enough powers to deal with travelers, their staff just lack the ability to get the job done. fedupwithjobsworths
  • Score: 59

6:37am Thu 7 Aug 14

fedupwithjobsworths says...

Likewise our councils have enough powers to deal with travelers, their staff just lack the ability to get the job done.
Likewise our councils have enough powers to deal with travelers, their staff just lack the ability to get the job done. fedupwithjobsworths
  • Score: 17

6:55am Thu 7 Aug 14

kalebmoledirt says...

Theirs plenty of fit soldiers being made redundant lookling for a job recruit them into the police ,sure they would be a lot more comfortable getting out of their cars and enforcing the laws that it seems,are already in place PS think about serving more salad in the canteen.
Theirs plenty of fit soldiers being made redundant lookling for a job recruit them into the police ,sure they would be a lot more comfortable getting out of their cars and enforcing the laws that it seems,are already in place PS think about serving more salad in the canteen. kalebmoledirt
  • Score: 21

7:29am Thu 7 Aug 14

Baysider says...

fedupwithjobsworths wrote:
Likewise our councils have enough powers to deal with travelers, their staff just lack the ability to get the job done.
Utter garbage as usual Jobbie. I know nothing about party houses other than what I read on here but I do know that junior ministers in this government are very keen to wash their hands of any issues and make local authorities their fall guys wherever they get a chance.
[quote][p][bold]fedupwithjobsworths[/bold] wrote: Likewise our councils have enough powers to deal with travelers, their staff just lack the ability to get the job done.[/p][/quote]Utter garbage as usual Jobbie. I know nothing about party houses other than what I read on here but I do know that junior ministers in this government are very keen to wash their hands of any issues and make local authorities their fall guys wherever they get a chance. Baysider
  • Score: -20

7:43am Thu 7 Aug 14

kalebmoledirt says...

Baysider wrote:
fedupwithjobsworths wrote:
Likewise our councils have enough powers to deal with travelers, their staff just lack the ability to get the job done.
Utter garbage as usual Jobbie. I know nothing about party houses other than what I read on here but I do know that junior ministers in this government are very keen to wash their hands of any issues and make local authorities their fall guys wherever they get a chance.
Something you know nothing about ,there's a first,,do what you always do make it up but try keeping 'll short,Ps is Eric Pickles a junior minister .loved his mum and dad proper wireless stuff
[quote][p][bold]Baysider[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fedupwithjobsworths[/bold] wrote: Likewise our councils have enough powers to deal with travelers, their staff just lack the ability to get the job done.[/p][/quote]Utter garbage as usual Jobbie. I know nothing about party houses other than what I read on here but I do know that junior ministers in this government are very keen to wash their hands of any issues and make local authorities their fall guys wherever they get a chance.[/p][/quote]Something you know nothing about ,there's a first,,do what you always do make it up but try keeping 'll short,Ps is Eric Pickles a junior minister .loved his mum and dad proper wireless stuff kalebmoledirt
  • Score: 8

7:56am Thu 7 Aug 14

Hessenford says...

Noise or anti social behavior problems are very rarely resolved by local council environmental health departments.
The planning officers who investigate noise complaints simply go through the motions of visiting householders who are the subject of excessive noise and then tell them there is nothing they can do and advise them to take their own magistrates court action, in short these planning officers draw the salary under false pretences, they are completely useless in these matters.
Noise or anti social behavior problems are very rarely resolved by local council environmental health departments. The planning officers who investigate noise complaints simply go through the motions of visiting householders who are the subject of excessive noise and then tell them there is nothing they can do and advise them to take their own magistrates court action, in short these planning officers draw the salary under false pretences, they are completely useless in these matters. Hessenford
  • Score: 25

8:34am Thu 7 Aug 14

Ragwin says...

I once lived in Poole and had a problem with noise coming from a building behind my house. I got the official form from the council, filled it in with the dates of the noise occurrences and sent it in. Within the week a noise abatement officer turned up and sorted out the problem.
I once lived in Poole and had a problem with noise coming from a building behind my house. I got the official form from the council, filled it in with the dates of the noise occurrences and sent it in. Within the week a noise abatement officer turned up and sorted out the problem. Ragwin
  • Score: 11

8:52am Thu 7 Aug 14

Townee says...

I wonder if the landlords have applied for planning permission for a change of use from C3 residential to C4 HMO (house of multiple occupation). If not the council could close them down.
This type of problem has Ben going on in Winton and Charmister for years with Uni students causing BIG PROBLEMS and with all the powers very little gets done, because the students bring lots of money to the area.
I wonder if the landlords have applied for planning permission for a change of use from C3 residential to C4 HMO (house of multiple occupation). If not the council could close them down. This type of problem has Ben going on in Winton and Charmister for years with Uni students causing BIG PROBLEMS and with all the powers very little gets done, because the students bring lots of money to the area. Townee
  • Score: 12

9:32am Thu 7 Aug 14

ILOVEBOURNEMOUTH says...

Party poopers.
Party poopers. ILOVEBOURNEMOUTH
  • Score: -19

10:21am Thu 7 Aug 14

The Liberal says...

Do they even count as tenants? Surely these houses are being let out as holiday homes and should be treated as such?
Do they even count as tenants? Surely these houses are being let out as holiday homes and should be treated as such? The Liberal
  • Score: 7

10:28am Thu 7 Aug 14

Marcus James says...

Bournemouth Echo please please undertake a FOI request to Poole Council and ask them if they already knew they had these powers, then ask them why they keep telling residents that they aren't able to do anything as they don't have any powers!
The council know full well they have had these powers
The problem that the council do not want to admit is that the pure cost of pursuing each and every householder who breaches planning law would cost them a fortune and its money the council have but don't want to spend.
Have a look at what happens when builders, developers and householders fail to follow planning rules, the council gently role over and swallow it
The cost of challenging a person or company for what is in the eyes of the law a small breach is disproportionate to the outcome that is achieved
IF they did take enforcement action against Mr Smith at a particular property, he would simply sublet it to another person and when the council catch up with Mr Jones the new landlord, he will simply let it to someone else, the merry-go-round never ends and each time it takes months to get to the stage of actually taking enforcement action and then each time the council would have to start all over again
I don't not in any way condone what is happening in these houses but I do not feel the residents of Canford Cliffs or Sandbanks deserve special attention
The residents of other areas encounter regular anti social behaviour too but their plight is not raised in the house of commons and the local MP's don't get involved to help
Bournemouth Echo please please undertake a FOI request to Poole Council and ask them if they already knew they had these powers, then ask them why they keep telling residents that they aren't able to do anything as they don't have any powers! The council know full well they have had these powers The problem that the council do not want to admit is that the pure cost of pursuing each and every householder who breaches planning law would cost them a fortune and its money the council have but don't want to spend. Have a look at what happens when builders, developers and householders fail to follow planning rules, the council gently role over and swallow it The cost of challenging a person or company for what is in the eyes of the law a small breach is disproportionate to the outcome that is achieved IF they did take enforcement action against Mr Smith at a particular property, he would simply sublet it to another person and when the council catch up with Mr Jones the new landlord, he will simply let it to someone else, the merry-go-round never ends and each time it takes months to get to the stage of actually taking enforcement action and then each time the council would have to start all over again I don't not in any way condone what is happening in these houses but I do not feel the residents of Canford Cliffs or Sandbanks deserve special attention The residents of other areas encounter regular anti social behaviour too but their plight is not raised in the house of commons and the local MP's don't get involved to help Marcus James
  • Score: 9

11:00am Thu 7 Aug 14

Gonetothebeach says...

Selective licensing is applied most commonly to areas suffering high crime and anti-social behaviour, usually with a high density of pretty poor housing stock. It is not applied to individual dwellings. The council would have to engage in a substantial process of consultation prior to setting up such a scheme, and then maintain a register of landlords in the designated area, carrying out CRB type checks and so on. All this would come at a cost and sounds to me like a sledgehammer to crack a nut given the relatively small number of properties affected - a far more appropriate option for Winton than Canford Cliffs - but I seriously doubt that the residents, landlords or council will want to go down this route and be associated with the deprived communities in Blackpool and so on where selective licensing operates.
Selective licensing is applied most commonly to areas suffering high crime and anti-social behaviour, usually with a high density of pretty poor housing stock. It is not applied to individual dwellings. The council would have to engage in a substantial process of consultation prior to setting up such a scheme, and then maintain a register of landlords in the designated area, carrying out CRB type checks and so on. All this would come at a cost and sounds to me like a sledgehammer to crack a nut given the relatively small number of properties affected - a far more appropriate option for Winton than Canford Cliffs - but I seriously doubt that the residents, landlords or council will want to go down this route and be associated with the deprived communities in Blackpool and so on where selective licensing operates. Gonetothebeach
  • Score: 3

11:43am Thu 7 Aug 14

scrumpyjack says...

Ragwin wrote:
I once lived in Poole and had a problem with noise coming from a building behind my house. I got the official form from the council, filled it in with the dates of the noise occurrences and sent it in. Within the week a noise abatement officer turned up and sorted out the problem.
That can't be right as that would mean that Hessonford was talking out of his **** again......
[quote][p][bold]Ragwin[/bold] wrote: I once lived in Poole and had a problem with noise coming from a building behind my house. I got the official form from the council, filled it in with the dates of the noise occurrences and sent it in. Within the week a noise abatement officer turned up and sorted out the problem.[/p][/quote]That can't be right as that would mean that Hessonford was talking out of his **** again...... scrumpyjack
  • Score: 5

11:55am Thu 7 Aug 14

Hessenford says...

scrumpyjack wrote:
Ragwin wrote:
I once lived in Poole and had a problem with noise coming from a building behind my house. I got the official form from the council, filled it in with the dates of the noise occurrences and sent it in. Within the week a noise abatement officer turned up and sorted out the problem.
That can't be right as that would mean that Hessonford was talking out of his **** again......
Having suffered at the hands of certain cretins I can say that the council were useless but the Magistrates Court sorting it in double quick time, now go somewhere else with your troll attitude.
[quote][p][bold]scrumpyjack[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ragwin[/bold] wrote: I once lived in Poole and had a problem with noise coming from a building behind my house. I got the official form from the council, filled it in with the dates of the noise occurrences and sent it in. Within the week a noise abatement officer turned up and sorted out the problem.[/p][/quote]That can't be right as that would mean that Hessonford was talking out of his **** again......[/p][/quote]Having suffered at the hands of certain cretins I can say that the council were useless but the Magistrates Court sorting it in double quick time, now go somewhere else with your troll attitude. Hessenford
  • Score: -4

1:05pm Thu 7 Aug 14

fedupwithjobsworths says...

Baysider wrote:
fedupwithjobsworths wrote:
Likewise our councils have enough powers to deal with travelers, their staff just lack the ability to get the job done.
Utter garbage as usual Jobbie. I know nothing about party houses other than what I read on here but I do know that junior ministers in this government are very keen to wash their hands of any issues and make local authorities their fall guys wherever they get a chance.
The only people keen to wash their hands of it are the Council, at the slightest difficuly they give up.
[quote][p][bold]Baysider[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fedupwithjobsworths[/bold] wrote: Likewise our councils have enough powers to deal with travelers, their staff just lack the ability to get the job done.[/p][/quote]Utter garbage as usual Jobbie. I know nothing about party houses other than what I read on here but I do know that junior ministers in this government are very keen to wash their hands of any issues and make local authorities their fall guys wherever they get a chance.[/p][/quote]The only people keen to wash their hands of it are the Council, at the slightest difficuly they give up. fedupwithjobsworths
  • Score: 1

10:23pm Thu 7 Aug 14

Marty Caine says...

Well done to Sally Carpenter for following the right route of contacting a member of parliament who is responsible. If the council treat these properties as a commercial enterprise there are far more powers than if it were a private dwelling. Especially when it comes to excessive noise.
Well done to Sally Carpenter for following the right route of contacting a member of parliament who is responsible. If the council treat these properties as a commercial enterprise there are far more powers than if it were a private dwelling. Especially when it comes to excessive noise. Marty Caine
  • Score: 0

3:05am Fri 8 Aug 14

British_Beef says...

If residents cannot rely on the local council or police, where can they turn? Anti social behaviour makes people's lives a misery.
If residents cannot rely on the local council or police, where can they turn? Anti social behaviour makes people's lives a misery. British_Beef
  • Score: 2

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