Paramedic punched twice in the face by man he tried to help

Paramedic punched twice in the face by man he tried to help

Paramedic punched twice in the face by man he tried to help

Richard Lewis

Cllr Jane Kelly

Ryan Norris

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A PARAMEDIC was punched in the face twice during a “shocking” attack by a man he was trying to help in Boscombe.

South Western Ambulance Service was called at 6.30pm on Tuesday following reports a man had collapsed outside Iceland on Christchurch Road.

An eyewitness who did not want to be named said he watched on as a paramedic tended to the man lying apparently unconscious on the pavement.

He added: “He just jolted up and punched the paramedic straight in the face and then hit him again. He got up and started chasing the paramedic, swearing and spitting at him.

“Then he went for the female paramedic but the other one managed to rugby tackle him to the ground.

“It was shocking. Me and some other passers-by helped to try and restrain him.”

A spokesperson for South Western Ambulance Service confirmed it had sent a crew to the scene and that the patient was put in the recovery position before the drama unfolded.

“One of the crew members was assaulted by the patient,” he said. “The member of the crew received treatment for his injuries at the scene.”

Resident Richard Lewis, 38, said he was saddened to hear of the assault.

“It is disgusting,” he said. “Paramedics put their lives on the line for us every day. It is just despicable.”

Shop assistant Ryan Norris, who works nearby, said it is no longer surprising to hear of such incidents in the area.

He added: “It is Boscombe and sadly something you start to expect here.”

Ward councillor Jane Kelly said: “It is very sad and I feel for the paramedic. I commend them for their hard work in such difficult circumstances.”

A spokesperson for Dorset Police confirmed it received a call at 6.47pm to the incident and that the victim had sustained “reddening and minor swelling to the cheekbone”.

She said: “A 32-year-old man from Bournemouth was arrested on suspicion of assault. He is still in custody and helping us with our inquiries.”

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7:01am Thu 31 Jul 14

chunk_vanman says...

If he punched a copper, he would be looking at a custodial sentence.
Sadly, the most he will get is a £60 victim surcharge ... Which he won't be able to pay.
Makes me sick to my stomach.
If he punched a copper, he would be looking at a custodial sentence. Sadly, the most he will get is a £60 victim surcharge ... Which he won't be able to pay. Makes me sick to my stomach. chunk_vanman
  • Score: 110

7:15am Thu 31 Jul 14

crazybird says...

He should be banned from using the NHS services. Disgusting behaviour!
He should be banned from using the NHS services. Disgusting behaviour! crazybird
  • Score: 110

7:17am Thu 31 Jul 14

charlie2004 says...

Blacklist him and refuse him any further treatment. Low life.
Blacklist him and refuse him any further treatment. Low life. charlie2004
  • Score: 100

7:20am Thu 31 Jul 14

kalebmoledirt says...

They should have a risk assessment done by health and safety.And be given appropriate clothing.to keep them safe when working in such an area or get a copper off traffic duty to escort them.plus a rounders bat to ensure they really are unconscious before treating them
They should have a risk assessment done by health and safety.And be given appropriate clothing.to keep them safe when working in such an area or get a copper off traffic duty to escort them.plus a rounders bat to ensure they really are unconscious before treating them kalebmoledirt
  • Score: -15

7:34am Thu 31 Jul 14

Huey says...

All paramedics in Boscombe should be armed.
All paramedics in Boscombe should be armed. Huey
  • Score: 53

7:42am Thu 31 Jul 14

wool525 says...

should of just left him there, out of his face on drugs no doubt
should of just left him there, out of his face on drugs no doubt wool525
  • Score: 74

8:33am Thu 31 Jul 14

SympatheticSam says...

Boscombe is a great place to live. According to some duluded fools on here.
Boscombe is a great place to live. According to some duluded fools on here. SympatheticSam
  • Score: 36

8:33am Thu 31 Jul 14

Dave2207 says...

What Boscombe needs is a zero-tolerance policy by Mr. Plod, not a 'tourist guide' or 'speaking- clock' stationed at the Tardis.
The Tardis would be better employed as a holding-cell for drunks and druggies, until they can be collected and processed into proper custody.
What Boscombe needs is a zero-tolerance policy by Mr. Plod, not a 'tourist guide' or 'speaking- clock' stationed at the Tardis. The Tardis would be better employed as a holding-cell for drunks and druggies, until they can be collected and processed into proper custody. Dave2207
  • Score: 45

8:40am Thu 31 Jul 14

Azphreal says...

Huey wrote:
All paramedics in Boscombe should be armed.
Did you not notice 'A 32-year-old man from Bournemouth was arrested on suspicion of assault. He is still in custody and helping us with our inquiries' He is from Bournemouth so why not say that paramedics there should be armed?
[quote][p][bold]Huey[/bold] wrote: All paramedics in Boscombe should be armed.[/p][/quote]Did you not notice 'A 32-year-old man from Bournemouth was arrested on suspicion of assault. He is still in custody and helping us with our inquiries' He is from Bournemouth so why not say that paramedics there should be armed? Azphreal
  • Score: -12

8:41am Thu 31 Jul 14

MMM444 says...

Should of punched the scumbag back, TWICE, then towed him with his ambulance to A&E, put him back together if you can.
Should of punched the scumbag back, TWICE, then towed him with his ambulance to A&E, put him back together if you can. MMM444
  • Score: 23

9:06am Thu 31 Jul 14

BarrHumbug says...

So which number does this one fall under in the "10 reasons to love Boscombe" I wonder?
So which number does this one fall under in the "10 reasons to love Boscombe" I wonder? BarrHumbug
  • Score: 40

9:09am Thu 31 Jul 14

smhinto says...

Yet another savage incident in Boscombe!! You can imagine my sense of suprise, awe and wonderment can't you.
Yet another savage incident in Boscombe!! You can imagine my sense of suprise, awe and wonderment can't you. smhinto
  • Score: 22

9:11am Thu 31 Jul 14

UbelievableJeff says...

24 hours after the Echo publishes 11 reasons to love Boscombe. Such a sad situation I hope the paramedic is ok, and the aggressor is not.
24 hours after the Echo publishes 11 reasons to love Boscombe. Such a sad situation I hope the paramedic is ok, and the aggressor is not. UbelievableJeff
  • Score: 34

9:12am Thu 31 Jul 14

Hessenford says...

BarrHumbug wrote:
So which number does this one fall under in the "10 reasons to love Boscombe" I wonder?
Perhaps another story on 100 reasons to hate Boscombe is needed just to show unbiased fair reporting.
[quote][p][bold]BarrHumbug[/bold] wrote: So which number does this one fall under in the "10 reasons to love Boscombe" I wonder?[/p][/quote]Perhaps another story on 100 reasons to hate Boscombe is needed just to show unbiased fair reporting. Hessenford
  • Score: 17

9:24am Thu 31 Jul 14

JemBmth says...

Silly season.
Silly season. JemBmth
  • Score: -14

9:32am Thu 31 Jul 14

BarrHumbug says...

Hessenford wrote:
BarrHumbug wrote:
So which number does this one fall under in the "10 reasons to love Boscombe" I wonder?
Perhaps another story on 100 reasons to hate Boscombe is needed just to show unbiased fair reporting.
I'm tempted to take that story to the press complaints commission for the down right lies, falsehood and slanderous allegations that there are 10 things to love about Boscombe, the Echo owe us a public apology!
[quote][p][bold]Hessenford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BarrHumbug[/bold] wrote: So which number does this one fall under in the "10 reasons to love Boscombe" I wonder?[/p][/quote]Perhaps another story on 100 reasons to hate Boscombe is needed just to show unbiased fair reporting.[/p][/quote]I'm tempted to take that story to the press complaints commission for the down right lies, falsehood and slanderous allegations that there are 10 things to love about Boscombe, the Echo owe us a public apology! BarrHumbug
  • Score: 16

9:53am Thu 31 Jul 14

Sir Cliff East says...

Is it on youtube yet ?
Is it on youtube yet ? Sir Cliff East
  • Score: -10

10:05am Thu 31 Jul 14

Huey says...

Azphreal wrote:
Huey wrote: All paramedics in Boscombe should be armed.
Did you not notice 'A 32-year-old man from Bournemouth was arrested on suspicion of assault. He is still in custody and helping us with our inquiries' He is from Bournemouth so why not say that paramedics there should be armed?
Well, because I wasn't really being serious.
[quote][p][bold]Azphreal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Huey[/bold] wrote: All paramedics in Boscombe should be armed.[/p][/quote]Did you not notice 'A 32-year-old man from Bournemouth was arrested on suspicion of assault. He is still in custody and helping us with our inquiries' He is from Bournemouth so why not say that paramedics there should be armed?[/p][/quote]Well, because I wasn't really being serious. Huey
  • Score: 4

10:38am Thu 31 Jul 14

Minty Fresh says...

We all know Boscombe is **** hole and incidents like this only serve as confirmation.
I hope this drunken/drugged up a**h*le gets severely fined or preferably incarcerated for his cowardly actions. Paramedics deserve our utmost respect for the incredibly difficult job they do and low lifes like the 32 year old "helping with enquiries" are total scum.
We all know Boscombe is **** hole and incidents like this only serve as confirmation. I hope this drunken/drugged up a**h*le gets severely fined or preferably incarcerated for his cowardly actions. Paramedics deserve our utmost respect for the incredibly difficult job they do and low lifes like the 32 year old "helping with enquiries" are total scum. Minty Fresh
  • Score: 21

10:54am Thu 31 Jul 14

speedy231278 says...

You mean the Turdis didn't help?
You mean the Turdis didn't help? speedy231278
  • Score: 12

11:09am Thu 31 Jul 14

BIGTONE says...

Welcome to rehab central.

Now the dilemma is..........are they ODing or in genuine need
Of medical intervention.
How would you decide?
Welcome to rehab central. Now the dilemma is..........are they ODing or in genuine need Of medical intervention. How would you decide? BIGTONE
  • Score: 4

11:10am Thu 31 Jul 14

gerbil112 says...

Azphreal wrote:
Huey wrote:
All paramedics in Boscombe should be armed.
Did you not notice 'A 32-year-old man from Bournemouth was arrested on suspicion of assault. He is still in custody and helping us with our inquiries' He is from Bournemouth so why not say that paramedics there should be armed?
Yes, but the incident occurred in Boscombe.
[quote][p][bold]Azphreal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Huey[/bold] wrote: All paramedics in Boscombe should be armed.[/p][/quote]Did you not notice 'A 32-year-old man from Bournemouth was arrested on suspicion of assault. He is still in custody and helping us with our inquiries' He is from Bournemouth so why not say that paramedics there should be armed?[/p][/quote]Yes, but the incident occurred in Boscombe. gerbil112
  • Score: 5

11:33am Thu 31 Jul 14

Hickery says...

Clearly an utterly unprovoked attack, as the paramedics would have been no threat whatsoever to the patient receiving their help. Throw the book at him please. And excuses of "I was drunk, Your Honour" shouldn't be allowed. If you get yourself in that state, you must take responsibility for the consequences of your actions while under the influence of whatever substance(s) you've taken. I hope that the paramedic isn't too badly affected in his work by what happened on that day.
Clearly an utterly unprovoked attack, as the paramedics would have been no threat whatsoever to the patient receiving their help. Throw the book at him please. And excuses of "I was drunk, Your Honour" shouldn't be allowed. If you get yourself in that state, you must take responsibility for the consequences of your actions while under the influence of whatever substance(s) you've taken. I hope that the paramedic isn't too badly affected in his work by what happened on that day. Hickery
  • Score: 25

11:55am Thu 31 Jul 14

Rotterdam says...

Oh dear. All the usual ultra violent responses aimed at somebody who is clearly vulnerable, inadequate and probably drunk. Paramedics will be trained to deal properly with this kind of situation (good for them!). The offender was was obviously fairly easy to restrain, so why the obsessive desire to respond with disproportionate force?

Irony is a meaningless concept for you people, isn't it ?
Oh dear. All the usual ultra violent responses aimed at somebody who is clearly vulnerable, inadequate and probably drunk. Paramedics will be trained to deal properly with this kind of situation (good for them!). The offender was was obviously fairly easy to restrain, so why the obsessive desire to respond with disproportionate force? Irony is a meaningless concept for you people, isn't it ? Rotterdam
  • Score: -31

11:58am Thu 31 Jul 14

manjon says...

This lowlife from Bournemouth will be taken to court and have his wrist slapped, and because of his drug and alcohol problems will be referred to one of the many rehabilitation centre's in Boscombe, what chance have the decent people of the area got.
This lowlife from Bournemouth will be taken to court and have his wrist slapped, and because of his drug and alcohol problems will be referred to one of the many rehabilitation centre's in Boscombe, what chance have the decent people of the area got. manjon
  • Score: 15

12:14pm Thu 31 Jul 14

stevobath says...

Azphreal wrote:
Huey wrote:
All paramedics in Boscombe should be armed.
Did you not notice 'A 32-year-old man from Bournemouth was arrested on suspicion of assault. He is still in custody and helping us with our inquiries' He is from Bournemouth so why not say that paramedics there should be armed?
That wouldn't be such a headline grabber!

I'm sure paramedics are assaulted by patients living in many areas of town. Obviously 'Paramedic Gets Attacked In Southbourne /Westbourne / Poole' doesn't have the same sensationalist sound to it.

The ECHO hopes that one day to be filled with 'news' only emanating from Boscombe, thus garnering 'hits'.
[quote][p][bold]Azphreal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Huey[/bold] wrote: All paramedics in Boscombe should be armed.[/p][/quote]Did you not notice 'A 32-year-old man from Bournemouth was arrested on suspicion of assault. He is still in custody and helping us with our inquiries' He is from Bournemouth so why not say that paramedics there should be armed?[/p][/quote]That wouldn't be such a headline grabber! I'm sure paramedics are assaulted by patients living in many areas of town. Obviously 'Paramedic Gets Attacked In Southbourne /Westbourne / Poole' doesn't have the same sensationalist sound to it. The ECHO hopes that one day to be filled with 'news' only emanating from Boscombe, thus garnering 'hits'. stevobath
  • Score: 8

1:59pm Thu 31 Jul 14

thevoiceofreason1 says...

Hessenford wrote:
BarrHumbug wrote:
So which number does this one fall under in the "10 reasons to love Boscombe" I wonder?
Perhaps another story on 100 reasons to hate Boscombe is needed just to show unbiased fair reporting.
UNBIASED FAIR REPORTING FROM THE WINNERS OF THE TOYTOWN PAPER OF THE YEAR AWARD....SERIOUSLY,A
RE YOU HAVING A LAUGH!!
[quote][p][bold]Hessenford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BarrHumbug[/bold] wrote: So which number does this one fall under in the "10 reasons to love Boscombe" I wonder?[/p][/quote]Perhaps another story on 100 reasons to hate Boscombe is needed just to show unbiased fair reporting.[/p][/quote]UNBIASED FAIR REPORTING FROM THE WINNERS OF THE TOYTOWN PAPER OF THE YEAR AWARD....SERIOUSLY,A RE YOU HAVING A LAUGH!! thevoiceofreason1
  • Score: 1

2:01pm Thu 31 Jul 14

thevoiceofreason1 says...

Rotterdam wrote:
Oh dear. All the usual ultra violent responses aimed at somebody who is clearly vulnerable, inadequate and probably drunk. Paramedics will be trained to deal properly with this kind of situation (good for them!). The offender was was obviously fairly easy to restrain, so why the obsessive desire to respond with disproportionate force?

Irony is a meaningless concept for you people, isn't it ?
fairly easy to restrain...that will be why he got 2 punches in on one and went for the other.you are a deluded idiot!
[quote][p][bold]Rotterdam[/bold] wrote: Oh dear. All the usual ultra violent responses aimed at somebody who is clearly vulnerable, inadequate and probably drunk. Paramedics will be trained to deal properly with this kind of situation (good for them!). The offender was was obviously fairly easy to restrain, so why the obsessive desire to respond with disproportionate force? Irony is a meaningless concept for you people, isn't it ?[/p][/quote]fairly easy to restrain...that will be why he got 2 punches in on one and went for the other.you are a deluded idiot! thevoiceofreason1
  • Score: 15

2:01pm Thu 31 Jul 14

adspacebroker says...

First we have the North South divide nationally and now the East West divide of Boscombe. I was chatting to a guy last night who said he lived in East Boscombe....I explained I had never heard of it!! More importantly assault on ambulance crews has become disgustingly common in our area but not necessarily newsworthy. And I agree with the above that it should be dealt with as harshly as it is viewed by most of the public.
First we have the North South divide nationally and now the East West divide of Boscombe. I was chatting to a guy last night who said he lived in East Boscombe....I explained I had never heard of it!! More importantly assault on ambulance crews has become disgustingly common in our area but not necessarily newsworthy. And I agree with the above that it should be dealt with as harshly as it is viewed by most of the public. adspacebroker
  • Score: 6

2:18pm Thu 31 Jul 14

Rotterdam says...

thevoiceofreason1 wrote:
Rotterdam wrote:
Oh dear. All the usual ultra violent responses aimed at somebody who is clearly vulnerable, inadequate and probably drunk. Paramedics will be trained to deal properly with this kind of situation (good for them!). The offender was was obviously fairly easy to restrain, so why the obsessive desire to respond with disproportionate force?

Irony is a meaningless concept for you people, isn't it ?
fairly easy to restrain...that will be why he got 2 punches in on one and went for the other.you are a deluded idiot!
But what constitutes 'a punch'. What constitutes 'going for somebody' when the offender is probably very very drunk? I'm guessing this is exactly the kind of situation paramedics are trained to deal with. I don't why this is even a story, unless it's supposed to confirm people's apparent prejudices about Boscombe.

I think you are interpreting the story in a way that conforms to your own prejudices, which is also somewhat ironic considering what you call yourself !
[quote][p][bold]thevoiceofreason1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rotterdam[/bold] wrote: Oh dear. All the usual ultra violent responses aimed at somebody who is clearly vulnerable, inadequate and probably drunk. Paramedics will be trained to deal properly with this kind of situation (good for them!). The offender was was obviously fairly easy to restrain, so why the obsessive desire to respond with disproportionate force? Irony is a meaningless concept for you people, isn't it ?[/p][/quote]fairly easy to restrain...that will be why he got 2 punches in on one and went for the other.you are a deluded idiot![/p][/quote]But what constitutes 'a punch'. What constitutes 'going for somebody' when the offender is probably very very drunk? I'm guessing this is exactly the kind of situation paramedics are trained to deal with. I don't why this is even a story, unless it's supposed to confirm people's apparent prejudices about Boscombe. I think you are interpreting the story in a way that conforms to your own prejudices, which is also somewhat ironic considering what you call yourself ! Rotterdam
  • Score: -10

2:29pm Thu 31 Jul 14

Hickery says...

Rotterdam wrote:
Oh dear. All the usual ultra violent responses aimed at somebody who is clearly vulnerable, inadequate and probably drunk. Paramedics will be trained to deal properly with this kind of situation (good for them!). The offender was was obviously fairly easy to restrain, so why the obsessive desire to respond with disproportionate force?

Irony is a meaningless concept for you people, isn't it ?
Although trained to deal with difficult situations and on how to defend themselves, Paramedics are not allowed to restrain patients. Only the police have legal powers to do that.
[quote][p][bold]Rotterdam[/bold] wrote: Oh dear. All the usual ultra violent responses aimed at somebody who is clearly vulnerable, inadequate and probably drunk. Paramedics will be trained to deal properly with this kind of situation (good for them!). The offender was was obviously fairly easy to restrain, so why the obsessive desire to respond with disproportionate force? Irony is a meaningless concept for you people, isn't it ?[/p][/quote]Although trained to deal with difficult situations and on how to defend themselves, Paramedics are not allowed to restrain patients. Only the police have legal powers to do that. Hickery
  • Score: 8

2:47pm Thu 31 Jul 14

Rotterdam says...

Hickery wrote:
Rotterdam wrote:
Oh dear. All the usual ultra violent responses aimed at somebody who is clearly vulnerable, inadequate and probably drunk. Paramedics will be trained to deal properly with this kind of situation (good for them!). The offender was was obviously fairly easy to restrain, so why the obsessive desire to respond with disproportionate force?

Irony is a meaningless concept for you people, isn't it ?
Although trained to deal with difficult situations and on how to defend themselves, Paramedics are not allowed to restrain patients. Only the police have legal powers to do that.
So what's this quote from the story?

“It was shocking. Me and some other passers-by helped to try and restrain him.”

The idea that members of the public or any public-facing worker or volunteer aren't allowed to restrain people when they are under threat is, with respect, a Daily Mail type fantasy.

To the extent to which such laws exist, they are designed to prevent a disproportionate response. And, given some of the proposed punishments on display in this thread, they are quite right to do so.
[quote][p][bold]Hickery[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rotterdam[/bold] wrote: Oh dear. All the usual ultra violent responses aimed at somebody who is clearly vulnerable, inadequate and probably drunk. Paramedics will be trained to deal properly with this kind of situation (good for them!). The offender was was obviously fairly easy to restrain, so why the obsessive desire to respond with disproportionate force? Irony is a meaningless concept for you people, isn't it ?[/p][/quote]Although trained to deal with difficult situations and on how to defend themselves, Paramedics are not allowed to restrain patients. Only the police have legal powers to do that.[/p][/quote]So what's this quote from the story? “It was shocking. Me and some other passers-by helped to try and restrain him.” The idea that members of the public or any public-facing worker or volunteer aren't allowed to restrain people when they are under threat is, with respect, a Daily Mail type fantasy. To the extent to which such laws exist, they are designed to prevent a disproportionate response. And, given some of the proposed punishments on display in this thread, they are quite right to do so. Rotterdam
  • Score: 3

3:57pm Thu 31 Jul 14

justanoldie says...

For certain anti-social crimes particularly of this unbelievable nature the perpetrator should be PHOTOGRAPHED WITH A PLACARD ROUND THEIR NECK STATING WHY, AND DISPLAYED IN THE ECHO "ROGUES GALLERY" with the drink drivers.
For certain anti-social crimes particularly of this unbelievable nature the perpetrator should be PHOTOGRAPHED WITH A PLACARD ROUND THEIR NECK STATING WHY, AND DISPLAYED IN THE ECHO "ROGUES GALLERY" with the drink drivers. justanoldie
  • Score: 6

4:41pm Thu 31 Jul 14

Sir Cliff East says...

The paramedic should have given him a dose of N2O. It would have cheered him up and no trouble would have resulted. I've got my own tank of it and have a shot each morning. I'ts great, better than helium even.
The paramedic should have given him a dose of N2O. It would have cheered him up and no trouble would have resulted. I've got my own tank of it and have a shot each morning. I'ts great, better than helium even. Sir Cliff East
  • Score: -11

6:59pm Thu 31 Jul 14

weston1987 says...

scum
scum weston1987
  • Score: 2

7:22pm Thu 31 Jul 14

itsneverblackorwhite says...

I hope he receives a substantial prison sentence to send a message that attacks on our emergency will not be tolerated!
I hope he receives a substantial prison sentence to send a message that attacks on our emergency will not be tolerated! itsneverblackorwhite
  • Score: 1

7:23pm Thu 31 Jul 14

GeorgeW64 says...

Next this thug collapses I hope the paramedics remember him and leave him to rot.
Next this thug collapses I hope the paramedics remember him and leave him to rot. GeorgeW64
  • Score: 1

7:39pm Thu 31 Jul 14

martinsim34 says...

wat world r u living in
im ex NHS STAFF assaulted by a patient while doing a job with real rewards just like ambulance staff we were and are on the front line no one defends us we get operations they fail we r then told no u cannot work so that one assualt took everythiing away from me
this goes on day in day out ur all living in a cukkoo land nursing is as dangerous as being a front line soulder now,never nowing where next weapon coming from
wat world r u living in im ex NHS STAFF assaulted by a patient while doing a job with real rewards just like ambulance staff we were and are on the front line no one defends us we get operations they fail we r then told no u cannot work so that one assualt took everythiing away from me this goes on day in day out ur all living in a cukkoo land nursing is as dangerous as being a front line soulder now,never nowing where next weapon coming from martinsim34
  • Score: -2

7:40pm Thu 31 Jul 14

notapeopleperson says...

Rotterdam wrote:
Oh dear. All the usual ultra violent responses aimed at somebody who is clearly vulnerable, inadequate and probably drunk. Paramedics will be trained to deal properly with this kind of situation (good for them!). The offender was was obviously fairly easy to restrain, so why the obsessive desire to respond with disproportionate force?

Irony is a meaningless concept for you people, isn't it ?
have you ever been in this situation, i promise you its not a nice one. and training doesn't prepare you. As for vulnerable..... please! you sir/madam are a f**k wit
[quote][p][bold]Rotterdam[/bold] wrote: Oh dear. All the usual ultra violent responses aimed at somebody who is clearly vulnerable, inadequate and probably drunk. Paramedics will be trained to deal properly with this kind of situation (good for them!). The offender was was obviously fairly easy to restrain, so why the obsessive desire to respond with disproportionate force? Irony is a meaningless concept for you people, isn't it ?[/p][/quote]have you ever been in this situation, i promise you its not a nice one. and training doesn't prepare you. As for vulnerable..... please! you sir/madam are a f**k wit notapeopleperson
  • Score: 5

8:26pm Thu 31 Jul 14

weston1987 says...

Rotterdam wrote:
Oh dear. All the usual ultra violent responses aimed at somebody who is clearly vulnerable, inadequate and probably drunk. Paramedics will be trained to deal properly with this kind of situation (good for them!). The offender was was obviously fairly easy to restrain, so why the obsessive desire to respond with disproportionate force?

Irony is a meaningless concept for you people, isn't it ?
paramedics are not trained to restrain people and are not suppose to be put into these situations. They are health care professionals and not police. Please don't comment on stuff you have no clue about idiot.
[quote][p][bold]Rotterdam[/bold] wrote: Oh dear. All the usual ultra violent responses aimed at somebody who is clearly vulnerable, inadequate and probably drunk. Paramedics will be trained to deal properly with this kind of situation (good for them!). The offender was was obviously fairly easy to restrain, so why the obsessive desire to respond with disproportionate force? Irony is a meaningless concept for you people, isn't it ?[/p][/quote]paramedics are not trained to restrain people and are not suppose to be put into these situations. They are health care professionals and not police. Please don't comment on stuff you have no clue about idiot. weston1987
  • Score: 5

8:46pm Thu 31 Jul 14

AdamSFC says...

martinsim34 wrote:
wat world r u living in
im ex NHS STAFF assaulted by a patient while doing a job with real rewards just like ambulance staff we were and are on the front line no one defends us we get operations they fail we r then told no u cannot work so that one assualt took everythiing away from me
this goes on day in day out ur all living in a cukkoo land nursing is as dangerous as being a front line soulder now,never nowing where next weapon coming from
You worked for the NHS? Who helped you fill out the application form?
[quote][p][bold]martinsim34[/bold] wrote: wat world r u living in im ex NHS STAFF assaulted by a patient while doing a job with real rewards just like ambulance staff we were and are on the front line no one defends us we get operations they fail we r then told no u cannot work so that one assualt took everythiing away from me this goes on day in day out ur all living in a cukkoo land nursing is as dangerous as being a front line soulder now,never nowing where next weapon coming from[/p][/quote]You worked for the NHS? Who helped you fill out the application form? AdamSFC
  • Score: 8

10:01pm Thu 31 Jul 14

SympatheticSam says...

martinsim34 wrote:
wat world r u living in
im ex NHS STAFF assaulted by a patient while doing a job with real rewards just like ambulance staff we were and are on the front line no one defends us we get operations they fail we r then told no u cannot work so that one assualt took everythiing away from me
this goes on day in day out ur all living in a cukkoo land nursing is as dangerous as being a front line soulder now,never nowing where next weapon coming from
I'm glad you never "looked after" me when I was in hospital. You would have given me an overdose.
[quote][p][bold]martinsim34[/bold] wrote: wat world r u living in im ex NHS STAFF assaulted by a patient while doing a job with real rewards just like ambulance staff we were and are on the front line no one defends us we get operations they fail we r then told no u cannot work so that one assualt took everythiing away from me this goes on day in day out ur all living in a cukkoo land nursing is as dangerous as being a front line soulder now,never nowing where next weapon coming from[/p][/quote]I'm glad you never "looked after" me when I was in hospital. You would have given me an overdose. SympatheticSam
  • Score: 4

10:13pm Thu 31 Jul 14

Rotterdam says...

weston1987 wrote:
Rotterdam wrote:
Oh dear. All the usual ultra violent responses aimed at somebody who is clearly vulnerable, inadequate and probably drunk. Paramedics will be trained to deal properly with this kind of situation (good for them!). The offender was was obviously fairly easy to restrain, so why the obsessive desire to respond with disproportionate force?

Irony is a meaningless concept for you people, isn't it ?
paramedics are not trained to restrain people and are not suppose to be put into these situations. They are health care professionals and not police. Please don't comment on stuff you have no clue about idiot.
OK. Perhaps they should be. I assume part of a paramedics job is to attend incidents where somebody has been injured on the street. So they are a special kind of health care professional whose job is more likely to involve incidents of drunkenness or violence in one form or another?

So anybody attending such an incident must be prepared for an unpredictable or violent response. I would be very surprised if paramedics are not trained in various techniques of restraint.
[quote][p][bold]weston1987[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rotterdam[/bold] wrote: Oh dear. All the usual ultra violent responses aimed at somebody who is clearly vulnerable, inadequate and probably drunk. Paramedics will be trained to deal properly with this kind of situation (good for them!). The offender was was obviously fairly easy to restrain, so why the obsessive desire to respond with disproportionate force? Irony is a meaningless concept for you people, isn't it ?[/p][/quote]paramedics are not trained to restrain people and are not suppose to be put into these situations. They are health care professionals and not police. Please don't comment on stuff you have no clue about idiot.[/p][/quote]OK. Perhaps they should be. I assume part of a paramedics job is to attend incidents where somebody has been injured on the street. So they are a special kind of health care professional whose job is more likely to involve incidents of drunkenness or violence in one form or another? So anybody attending such an incident must be prepared for an unpredictable or violent response. I would be very surprised if paramedics are not trained in various techniques of restraint. Rotterdam
  • Score: 0

10:15pm Thu 31 Jul 14

Rotterdam says...

notapeopleperson wrote:
Rotterdam wrote:
Oh dear. All the usual ultra violent responses aimed at somebody who is clearly vulnerable, inadequate and probably drunk. Paramedics will be trained to deal properly with this kind of situation (good for them!). The offender was was obviously fairly easy to restrain, so why the obsessive desire to respond with disproportionate force?

Irony is a meaningless concept for you people, isn't it ?
have you ever been in this situation, i promise you its not a nice one. and training doesn't prepare you. As for vulnerable..... please! you sir/madam are a f**k wit
If training doesn't prepare you for incidents that you are liable to encounter, then what on earth is the point of it ?
[quote][p][bold]notapeopleperson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rotterdam[/bold] wrote: Oh dear. All the usual ultra violent responses aimed at somebody who is clearly vulnerable, inadequate and probably drunk. Paramedics will be trained to deal properly with this kind of situation (good for them!). The offender was was obviously fairly easy to restrain, so why the obsessive desire to respond with disproportionate force? Irony is a meaningless concept for you people, isn't it ?[/p][/quote]have you ever been in this situation, i promise you its not a nice one. and training doesn't prepare you. As for vulnerable..... please! you sir/madam are a f**k wit[/p][/quote]If training doesn't prepare you for incidents that you are liable to encounter, then what on earth is the point of it ? Rotterdam
  • Score: 1

10:29pm Thu 31 Jul 14

weston1987 says...

Rotterdam wrote:
notapeopleperson wrote:
Rotterdam wrote:
Oh dear. All the usual ultra violent responses aimed at somebody who is clearly vulnerable, inadequate and probably drunk. Paramedics will be trained to deal properly with this kind of situation (good for them!). The offender was was obviously fairly easy to restrain, so why the obsessive desire to respond with disproportionate force?

Irony is a meaningless concept for you people, isn't it ?
have you ever been in this situation, i promise you its not a nice one. and training doesn't prepare you. As for vulnerable..... please! you sir/madam are a f**k wit
If training doesn't prepare you for incidents that you are liable to encounter, then what on earth is the point of it ?
Yes but the point is paramedics shouldn't have to face these incidents as I said they are not police and they are there for people's health care not to defend them selves against violence. can you not see that the person in the wrong here is the person who attacked the paramedic. would you attack someone who is there to help you, I hope not
[quote][p][bold]Rotterdam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]notapeopleperson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rotterdam[/bold] wrote: Oh dear. All the usual ultra violent responses aimed at somebody who is clearly vulnerable, inadequate and probably drunk. Paramedics will be trained to deal properly with this kind of situation (good for them!). The offender was was obviously fairly easy to restrain, so why the obsessive desire to respond with disproportionate force? Irony is a meaningless concept for you people, isn't it ?[/p][/quote]have you ever been in this situation, i promise you its not a nice one. and training doesn't prepare you. As for vulnerable..... please! you sir/madam are a f**k wit[/p][/quote]If training doesn't prepare you for incidents that you are liable to encounter, then what on earth is the point of it ?[/p][/quote]Yes but the point is paramedics shouldn't have to face these incidents as I said they are not police and they are there for people's health care not to defend them selves against violence. can you not see that the person in the wrong here is the person who attacked the paramedic. would you attack someone who is there to help you, I hope not weston1987
  • Score: 2

10:56pm Thu 31 Jul 14

scrumpyjack says...

AdamSFC wrote:
martinsim34 wrote:
wat world r u living in
im ex NHS STAFF assaulted by a patient while doing a job with real rewards just like ambulance staff we were and are on the front line no one defends us we get operations they fail we r then told no u cannot work so that one assualt took everythiing away from me
this goes on day in day out ur all living in a cukkoo land nursing is as dangerous as being a front line soulder now,never nowing where next weapon coming from
You worked for the NHS? Who helped you fill out the application form?
A Filipino?
[quote][p][bold]AdamSFC[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]martinsim34[/bold] wrote: wat world r u living in im ex NHS STAFF assaulted by a patient while doing a job with real rewards just like ambulance staff we were and are on the front line no one defends us we get operations they fail we r then told no u cannot work so that one assualt took everythiing away from me this goes on day in day out ur all living in a cukkoo land nursing is as dangerous as being a front line soulder now,never nowing where next weapon coming from[/p][/quote]You worked for the NHS? Who helped you fill out the application form?[/p][/quote]A Filipino? scrumpyjack
  • Score: -2

11:00pm Thu 31 Jul 14

Rotterdam says...

weston1987 wrote:
Rotterdam wrote:
notapeopleperson wrote:
Rotterdam wrote:
Oh dear. All the usual ultra violent responses aimed at somebody who is clearly vulnerable, inadequate and probably drunk. Paramedics will be trained to deal properly with this kind of situation (good for them!). The offender was was obviously fairly easy to restrain, so why the obsessive desire to respond with disproportionate force?

Irony is a meaningless concept for you people, isn't it ?
have you ever been in this situation, i promise you its not a nice one. and training doesn't prepare you. As for vulnerable..... please! you sir/madam are a f**k wit
If training doesn't prepare you for incidents that you are liable to encounter, then what on earth is the point of it ?
Yes but the point is paramedics shouldn't have to face these incidents as I said they are not police and they are there for people's health care not to defend them selves against violence. can you not see that the person in the wrong here is the person who attacked the paramedic. would you attack someone who is there to help you, I hope not
Yes, of course the offender is the person who attacked the paramedic. That's obvious. There's nothing I have said anywhere in any of my posts that suggests otherwise.

Of course it's best if they don't have to face incidents like this. That's obvious as well.

But, the fact is, what a paramedic does is go out and deal with incidents when people have been injured. Some of those will be accidents of course, but they must surely understand that others - quite a few in fact - will involve violence or drunkenness, and they must surely be trained to deal with such circumstances.

Most of the time surely they are thanked for their assistance. But sometimes they encounter people who are too inadequate or resentful to appreciate it. It's part of the job.

Isn't that exactly why they deserve our admiration?
[quote][p][bold]weston1987[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rotterdam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]notapeopleperson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rotterdam[/bold] wrote: Oh dear. All the usual ultra violent responses aimed at somebody who is clearly vulnerable, inadequate and probably drunk. Paramedics will be trained to deal properly with this kind of situation (good for them!). The offender was was obviously fairly easy to restrain, so why the obsessive desire to respond with disproportionate force? Irony is a meaningless concept for you people, isn't it ?[/p][/quote]have you ever been in this situation, i promise you its not a nice one. and training doesn't prepare you. As for vulnerable..... please! you sir/madam are a f**k wit[/p][/quote]If training doesn't prepare you for incidents that you are liable to encounter, then what on earth is the point of it ?[/p][/quote]Yes but the point is paramedics shouldn't have to face these incidents as I said they are not police and they are there for people's health care not to defend them selves against violence. can you not see that the person in the wrong here is the person who attacked the paramedic. would you attack someone who is there to help you, I hope not[/p][/quote]Yes, of course the offender is the person who attacked the paramedic. That's obvious. There's nothing I have said anywhere in any of my posts that suggests otherwise. Of course it's best if they don't have to face incidents like this. That's obvious as well. But, the fact is, what a paramedic does is go out and deal with incidents when people have been injured. Some of those will be accidents of course, but they must surely understand that others - quite a few in fact - will involve violence or drunkenness, and they must surely be trained to deal with such circumstances. Most of the time surely they are thanked for their assistance. But sometimes they encounter people who are too inadequate or resentful to appreciate it. It's part of the job. Isn't that exactly why they deserve our admiration? Rotterdam
  • Score: 1

11:03pm Thu 31 Jul 14

scrumpyjack says...

Rotterdam wrote:
Oh dear. All the usual ultra violent responses aimed at somebody who is clearly vulnerable, inadequate and probably drunk. Paramedics will be trained to deal properly with this kind of situation (good for them!). The offender was was obviously fairly easy to restrain, so why the obsessive desire to respond with disproportionate force?

Irony is a meaningless concept for you people, isn't it ?
Irony is meaningless to us?

Bit patronising (and a complete misuse of the word IMO).

What I did find ironic was someone supporting a drug influenced person as being the victim, despite that person punching - more than once - a medic offering concern and help, choosing the online name 'Amsterdam'.
[quote][p][bold]Rotterdam[/bold] wrote: Oh dear. All the usual ultra violent responses aimed at somebody who is clearly vulnerable, inadequate and probably drunk. Paramedics will be trained to deal properly with this kind of situation (good for them!). The offender was was obviously fairly easy to restrain, so why the obsessive desire to respond with disproportionate force? Irony is a meaningless concept for you people, isn't it ?[/p][/quote]Irony is meaningless to us? Bit patronising (and a complete misuse of the word IMO). What I did find ironic was someone supporting a drug influenced person as being the victim, despite that person punching - more than once - a medic offering concern and help, choosing the online name 'Amsterdam'. scrumpyjack
  • Score: -2

11:05pm Thu 31 Jul 14

scrumpyjack says...

JemBmth wrote:
Silly season.
Silly?

Silly?

WTF do you find 'silly' about this?
[quote][p][bold]JemBmth[/bold] wrote: Silly season.[/p][/quote]Silly? Silly? WTF do you find 'silly' about this? scrumpyjack
  • Score: 1

11:11pm Thu 31 Jul 14

scrumpyjack says...

Rotterdam wrote:
notapeopleperson wrote:
Rotterdam wrote:
Oh dear. All the usual ultra violent responses aimed at somebody who is clearly vulnerable, inadequate and probably drunk. Paramedics will be trained to deal properly with this kind of situation (good for them!). The offender was was obviously fairly easy to restrain, so why the obsessive desire to respond with disproportionate force?

Irony is a meaningless concept for you people, isn't it ?
have you ever been in this situation, i promise you its not a nice one. and training doesn't prepare you. As for vulnerable..... please! you sir/madam are a f**k wit
If training doesn't prepare you for incidents that you are liable to encounter, then what on earth is the point of it ?
'the offender was obviously fairly easy to restrain'

How did you work that out from behind your keyboard?

I quote from an eyewitness and person at the incident:

“Then he went for the female paramedic but the other one managed to rugby tackle him to the ground.

“It was shocking. Me and some other passers-by helped to try and restrain him.”

Note 'TRY to restrain him'.

Sounds an effing doddle for you eh big man? Step aside everyone Amsterdam and his keyboard are here we're all safe.
[quote][p][bold]Rotterdam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]notapeopleperson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rotterdam[/bold] wrote: Oh dear. All the usual ultra violent responses aimed at somebody who is clearly vulnerable, inadequate and probably drunk. Paramedics will be trained to deal properly with this kind of situation (good for them!). The offender was was obviously fairly easy to restrain, so why the obsessive desire to respond with disproportionate force? Irony is a meaningless concept for you people, isn't it ?[/p][/quote]have you ever been in this situation, i promise you its not a nice one. and training doesn't prepare you. As for vulnerable..... please! you sir/madam are a f**k wit[/p][/quote]If training doesn't prepare you for incidents that you are liable to encounter, then what on earth is the point of it ?[/p][/quote]'the offender was obviously fairly easy to restrain' How did you work that out from behind your keyboard? I quote from an eyewitness and person at the incident: “Then he went for the female paramedic but the other one managed to rugby tackle him to the ground. “It was shocking. Me and some other passers-by helped to try and restrain him.” Note 'TRY to restrain him'. Sounds an effing doddle for you eh big man? Step aside everyone Amsterdam and his keyboard are here we're all safe. scrumpyjack
  • Score: 0

11:12pm Thu 31 Jul 14

Chief-Wiggum says...

Paramedics get hit everyday, its the fact that it happened in Boscombe that the echo want to make it a big issue, and only 24 hours after their 'story' on the 10 things they love about Boscombe! Echo decide what you want to do, either back it or slate it.
Paramedics get hit everyday, its the fact that it happened in Boscombe that the echo want to make it a big issue, and only 24 hours after their 'story' on the 10 things they love about Boscombe! Echo decide what you want to do, either back it or slate it. Chief-Wiggum
  • Score: 2

11:22pm Thu 31 Jul 14

scrumpyjack says...

Rotterdam wrote:
thevoiceofreason1 wrote:
Rotterdam wrote:
Oh dear. All the usual ultra violent responses aimed at somebody who is clearly vulnerable, inadequate and probably drunk. Paramedics will be trained to deal properly with this kind of situation (good for them!). The offender was was obviously fairly easy to restrain, so why the obsessive desire to respond with disproportionate force?

Irony is a meaningless concept for you people, isn't it ?
fairly easy to restrain...that will be why he got 2 punches in on one and went for the other.you are a deluded idiot!
But what constitutes 'a punch'. What constitutes 'going for somebody' when the offender is probably very very drunk? I'm guessing this is exactly the kind of situation paramedics are trained to deal with. I don't why this is even a story, unless it's supposed to confirm people's apparent prejudices about Boscombe.

I think you are interpreting the story in a way that conforms to your own prejudices, which is also somewhat ironic considering what you call yourself !
More gems from you?

'But what constitutes 'a punch''

From the story:

A spokesperson for Dorset Police confirmed..... that the victim had sustained “reddening and minor swelling to the cheekbone”.



Perhaps he punched him ironically?
[quote][p][bold]Rotterdam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thevoiceofreason1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rotterdam[/bold] wrote: Oh dear. All the usual ultra violent responses aimed at somebody who is clearly vulnerable, inadequate and probably drunk. Paramedics will be trained to deal properly with this kind of situation (good for them!). The offender was was obviously fairly easy to restrain, so why the obsessive desire to respond with disproportionate force? Irony is a meaningless concept for you people, isn't it ?[/p][/quote]fairly easy to restrain...that will be why he got 2 punches in on one and went for the other.you are a deluded idiot![/p][/quote]But what constitutes 'a punch'. What constitutes 'going for somebody' when the offender is probably very very drunk? I'm guessing this is exactly the kind of situation paramedics are trained to deal with. I don't why this is even a story, unless it's supposed to confirm people's apparent prejudices about Boscombe. I think you are interpreting the story in a way that conforms to your own prejudices, which is also somewhat ironic considering what you call yourself ![/p][/quote]More gems from you? 'But what constitutes 'a punch'' From the story: A spokesperson for Dorset Police confirmed..... that the victim had sustained “reddening and minor swelling to the cheekbone”. Perhaps he punched him ironically? scrumpyjack
  • Score: 0

12:08am Fri 1 Aug 14

HRH of Boscombe says...

Azphreal wrote:
Huey wrote:
All paramedics in Boscombe should be armed.
Did you not notice 'A 32-year-old man from Bournemouth was arrested on suspicion of assault. He is still in custody and helping us with our inquiries' He is from Bournemouth so why not say that paramedics there should be armed?
you two morons should be in straight jackets.
.
how many hospitals/ambulance outposts do you think we have????
[quote][p][bold]Azphreal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Huey[/bold] wrote: All paramedics in Boscombe should be armed.[/p][/quote]Did you not notice 'A 32-year-old man from Bournemouth was arrested on suspicion of assault. He is still in custody and helping us with our inquiries' He is from Bournemouth so why not say that paramedics there should be armed?[/p][/quote]you two morons should be in straight jackets. . how many hospitals/ambulance outposts do you think we have???? HRH of Boscombe
  • Score: 0

12:32am Fri 1 Aug 14

Charles_F says...

Ward councillor Jane Kelly said: “Its ok, not a big deal. This is how we say thank you around here”
Ward councillor Jane Kelly said: “Its ok, not a big deal. This is how we say thank you around here” Charles_F
  • Score: 1

12:46am Fri 1 Aug 14

Rotterdam says...

scrumpyjack wrote:
Rotterdam wrote:
Oh dear. All the usual ultra violent responses aimed at somebody who is clearly vulnerable, inadequate and probably drunk. Paramedics will be trained to deal properly with this kind of situation (good for them!). The offender was was obviously fairly easy to restrain, so why the obsessive desire to respond with disproportionate force?

Irony is a meaningless concept for you people, isn't it ?
Irony is meaningless to us?

Bit patronising (and a complete misuse of the word IMO).

What I did find ironic was someone supporting a drug influenced person as being the victim, despite that person punching - more than once - a medic offering concern and help, choosing the online name 'Amsterdam'.
I didn't support the offender as being in any way a victim in that incident. But evidently his life circumstances have brought to a very sorry state.
[quote][p][bold]scrumpyjack[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rotterdam[/bold] wrote: Oh dear. All the usual ultra violent responses aimed at somebody who is clearly vulnerable, inadequate and probably drunk. Paramedics will be trained to deal properly with this kind of situation (good for them!). The offender was was obviously fairly easy to restrain, so why the obsessive desire to respond with disproportionate force? Irony is a meaningless concept for you people, isn't it ?[/p][/quote]Irony is meaningless to us? Bit patronising (and a complete misuse of the word IMO). What I did find ironic was someone supporting a drug influenced person as being the victim, despite that person punching - more than once - a medic offering concern and help, choosing the online name 'Amsterdam'.[/p][/quote]I didn't support the offender as being in any way a victim in that incident. But evidently his life circumstances have brought to a very sorry state. Rotterdam
  • Score: 0

12:52am Fri 1 Aug 14

Rotterdam says...

scrumpyjack wrote:
Rotterdam wrote:
thevoiceofreason1 wrote:
Rotterdam wrote:
Oh dear. All the usual ultra violent responses aimed at somebody who is clearly vulnerable, inadequate and probably drunk. Paramedics will be trained to deal properly with this kind of situation (good for them!). The offender was was obviously fairly easy to restrain, so why the obsessive desire to respond with disproportionate force?

Irony is a meaningless concept for you people, isn't it ?
fairly easy to restrain...that will be why he got 2 punches in on one and went for the other.you are a deluded idiot!
But what constitutes 'a punch'. What constitutes 'going for somebody' when the offender is probably very very drunk? I'm guessing this is exactly the kind of situation paramedics are trained to deal with. I don't why this is even a story, unless it's supposed to confirm people's apparent prejudices about Boscombe.

I think you are interpreting the story in a way that conforms to your own prejudices, which is also somewhat ironic considering what you call yourself !
More gems from you?

'But what constitutes 'a punch''

From the story:

A spokesperson for Dorset Police confirmed..... that the victim had sustained “reddening and minor swelling to the cheekbone”.



Perhaps he punched him ironically?
So he wasn't actually hit very hard or effectively.

The sort of thing anybody in any frontline service will experience from time it time.

Not very nice, but a long way from being life threatening and certainly not worthy of the disproportionate responses appearing elsewhere on this thread.
[quote][p][bold]scrumpyjack[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rotterdam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thevoiceofreason1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rotterdam[/bold] wrote: Oh dear. All the usual ultra violent responses aimed at somebody who is clearly vulnerable, inadequate and probably drunk. Paramedics will be trained to deal properly with this kind of situation (good for them!). The offender was was obviously fairly easy to restrain, so why the obsessive desire to respond with disproportionate force? Irony is a meaningless concept for you people, isn't it ?[/p][/quote]fairly easy to restrain...that will be why he got 2 punches in on one and went for the other.you are a deluded idiot![/p][/quote]But what constitutes 'a punch'. What constitutes 'going for somebody' when the offender is probably very very drunk? I'm guessing this is exactly the kind of situation paramedics are trained to deal with. I don't why this is even a story, unless it's supposed to confirm people's apparent prejudices about Boscombe. I think you are interpreting the story in a way that conforms to your own prejudices, which is also somewhat ironic considering what you call yourself ![/p][/quote]More gems from you? 'But what constitutes 'a punch'' From the story: A spokesperson for Dorset Police confirmed..... that the victim had sustained “reddening and minor swelling to the cheekbone”. Perhaps he punched him ironically?[/p][/quote]So he wasn't actually hit very hard or effectively. The sort of thing anybody in any frontline service will experience from time it time. Not very nice, but a long way from being life threatening and certainly not worthy of the disproportionate responses appearing elsewhere on this thread. Rotterdam
  • Score: -2

2:45am Fri 1 Aug 14

Boscomite says...

I'm not saying that this is the case in this instance but it is possible that this man suffered an epileptic siezure. Having come out of it, if he had found himself surrouded by people he didn't recognise, and he wouldn't have recognised his own family at the time, his fight or flight instincts would have taken over leading to a sense of blind panic. And before anyone gets too judgmental, this can happen to anyone without warning or previous history, in Boscombe or Canford Cliffs. Obviously, best wishes to the paramedic who does a great job, but don't be too quick to judge.
I'm not saying that this is the case in this instance but it is possible that this man suffered an epileptic siezure. Having come out of it, if he had found himself surrouded by people he didn't recognise, and he wouldn't have recognised his own family at the time, his fight or flight instincts would have taken over leading to a sense of blind panic. And before anyone gets too judgmental, this can happen to anyone without warning or previous history, in Boscombe or Canford Cliffs. Obviously, best wishes to the paramedic who does a great job, but don't be too quick to judge. Boscomite
  • Score: -3

8:58am Fri 1 Aug 14

breamoreboy says...

UbelievableJeff wrote:
24 hours after the Echo publishes 11 reasons to love Boscombe. Such a sad situation I hope the paramedic is ok, and the aggressor is not.
I've told you a trillion times not to exaggerate.
[quote][p][bold]UbelievableJeff[/bold] wrote: 24 hours after the Echo publishes 11 reasons to love Boscombe. Such a sad situation I hope the paramedic is ok, and the aggressor is not.[/p][/quote]I've told you a trillion times not to exaggerate. breamoreboy
  • Score: 0

9:02am Fri 1 Aug 14

breamoreboy says...

Minty Fresh wrote:
We all know Boscombe is **** hole and incidents like this only serve as confirmation.
I hope this drunken/drugged up a**h*le gets severely fined or preferably incarcerated for his cowardly actions. Paramedics deserve our utmost respect for the incredibly difficult job they do and low lifes like the 32 year old "helping with enquiries" are total scum.
If he's out on probation it's a certain one way ticket. No excuse.
[quote][p][bold]Minty Fresh[/bold] wrote: We all know Boscombe is **** hole and incidents like this only serve as confirmation. I hope this drunken/drugged up a**h*le gets severely fined or preferably incarcerated for his cowardly actions. Paramedics deserve our utmost respect for the incredibly difficult job they do and low lifes like the 32 year old "helping with enquiries" are total scum.[/p][/quote]If he's out on probation it's a certain one way ticket. No excuse. breamoreboy
  • Score: 0

2:14pm Fri 1 Aug 14

weston1987 says...

Rotterdam wrote:
scrumpyjack wrote:
Rotterdam wrote:
thevoiceofreason1 wrote:
Rotterdam wrote:
Oh dear. All the usual ultra violent responses aimed at somebody who is clearly vulnerable, inadequate and probably drunk. Paramedics will be trained to deal properly with this kind of situation (good for them!). The offender was was obviously fairly easy to restrain, so why the obsessive desire to respond with disproportionate force?

Irony is a meaningless concept for you people, isn't it ?
fairly easy to restrain...that will be why he got 2 punches in on one and went for the other.you are a deluded idiot!
But what constitutes 'a punch'. What constitutes 'going for somebody' when the offender is probably very very drunk? I'm guessing this is exactly the kind of situation paramedics are trained to deal with. I don't why this is even a story, unless it's supposed to confirm people's apparent prejudices about Boscombe.

I think you are interpreting the story in a way that conforms to your own prejudices, which is also somewhat ironic considering what you call yourself !
More gems from you?

'But what constitutes 'a punch''

From the story:

A spokesperson for Dorset Police confirmed..... that the victim had sustained “reddening and minor swelling to the cheekbone”.



Perhaps he punched him ironically?
So he wasn't actually hit very hard or effectively.

The sort of thing anybody in any frontline service will experience from time it time.

Not very nice, but a long way from being life threatening and certainly not worthy of the disproportionate responses appearing elsewhere on this thread.
of course it needs an aggressive response we need to make a point that this type of behaviour will not be tolerated. that scumbag had no right to attack anyone I don't give a rats how drunk or 'vulnerable' pepole say he might be common courtesy, respect and etiquette require nothing. There is no excuse for lashing out at a professional no matter how bad the resulting injury. It is stil assault. This bloke needs to have the bookeys thrown at him as an example to any other trash who think they can as **** innocent people no matter where they live or there social situation.
[quote][p][bold]Rotterdam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]scrumpyjack[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rotterdam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thevoiceofreason1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rotterdam[/bold] wrote: Oh dear. All the usual ultra violent responses aimed at somebody who is clearly vulnerable, inadequate and probably drunk. Paramedics will be trained to deal properly with this kind of situation (good for them!). The offender was was obviously fairly easy to restrain, so why the obsessive desire to respond with disproportionate force? Irony is a meaningless concept for you people, isn't it ?[/p][/quote]fairly easy to restrain...that will be why he got 2 punches in on one and went for the other.you are a deluded idiot![/p][/quote]But what constitutes 'a punch'. What constitutes 'going for somebody' when the offender is probably very very drunk? I'm guessing this is exactly the kind of situation paramedics are trained to deal with. I don't why this is even a story, unless it's supposed to confirm people's apparent prejudices about Boscombe. I think you are interpreting the story in a way that conforms to your own prejudices, which is also somewhat ironic considering what you call yourself ![/p][/quote]More gems from you? 'But what constitutes 'a punch'' From the story: A spokesperson for Dorset Police confirmed..... that the victim had sustained “reddening and minor swelling to the cheekbone”. Perhaps he punched him ironically?[/p][/quote]So he wasn't actually hit very hard or effectively. The sort of thing anybody in any frontline service will experience from time it time. Not very nice, but a long way from being life threatening and certainly not worthy of the disproportionate responses appearing elsewhere on this thread.[/p][/quote]of course it needs an aggressive response we need to make a point that this type of behaviour will not be tolerated. that scumbag had no right to attack anyone I don't give a rats how drunk or 'vulnerable' pepole say he might be common courtesy, respect and etiquette require nothing. There is no excuse for lashing out at a professional no matter how bad the resulting injury. It is stil assault. This bloke needs to have the bookeys thrown at him as an example to any other trash who think they can as **** innocent people no matter where they live or there social situation. weston1987
  • Score: 3

2:18pm Fri 1 Aug 14

weston1987 says...

Boscomite wrote:
I'm not saying that this is the case in this instance but it is possible that this man suffered an epileptic siezure. Having come out of it, if he had found himself surrouded by people he didn't recognise, and he wouldn't have recognised his own family at the time, his fight or flight instincts would have taken over leading to a sense of blind panic. And before anyone gets too judgmental, this can happen to anyone without warning or previous history, in Boscombe or Canford Cliffs. Obviously, best wishes to the paramedic who does a great job, but don't be too quick to judge.
No disrespect but a paramedic can tell the difference between an epileptic seizure and and some who is intoxicated. and epileptics very rarely get angry they get more confused plus it is a slow recovery not a quick unconcious to being able to punch recovery. This person should be judged for assaulting a innocent person and there are no excuses apart from the fact he is a low life
[quote][p][bold]Boscomite[/bold] wrote: I'm not saying that this is the case in this instance but it is possible that this man suffered an epileptic siezure. Having come out of it, if he had found himself surrouded by people he didn't recognise, and he wouldn't have recognised his own family at the time, his fight or flight instincts would have taken over leading to a sense of blind panic. And before anyone gets too judgmental, this can happen to anyone without warning or previous history, in Boscombe or Canford Cliffs. Obviously, best wishes to the paramedic who does a great job, but don't be too quick to judge.[/p][/quote]No disrespect but a paramedic can tell the difference between an epileptic seizure and and some who is intoxicated. and epileptics very rarely get angry they get more confused plus it is a slow recovery not a quick unconcious to being able to punch recovery. This person should be judged for assaulting a innocent person and there are no excuses apart from the fact he is a low life weston1987
  • Score: 5

6:07pm Fri 1 Aug 14

Rotterdam says...

weston1987 wrote:
Rotterdam wrote:
scrumpyjack wrote:
Rotterdam wrote:
thevoiceofreason1 wrote:
Rotterdam wrote:
Oh dear. All the usual ultra violent responses aimed at somebody who is clearly vulnerable, inadequate and probably drunk. Paramedics will be trained to deal properly with this kind of situation (good for them!). The offender was was obviously fairly easy to restrain, so why the obsessive desire to respond with disproportionate force?

Irony is a meaningless concept for you people, isn't it ?
fairly easy to restrain...that will be why he got 2 punches in on one and went for the other.you are a deluded idiot!
But what constitutes 'a punch'. What constitutes 'going for somebody' when the offender is probably very very drunk? I'm guessing this is exactly the kind of situation paramedics are trained to deal with. I don't why this is even a story, unless it's supposed to confirm people's apparent prejudices about Boscombe.

I think you are interpreting the story in a way that conforms to your own prejudices, which is also somewhat ironic considering what you call yourself !
More gems from you?

'But what constitutes 'a punch''

From the story:

A spokesperson for Dorset Police confirmed..... that the victim had sustained “reddening and minor swelling to the cheekbone”.



Perhaps he punched him ironically?
So he wasn't actually hit very hard or effectively.

The sort of thing anybody in any frontline service will experience from time it time.

Not very nice, but a long way from being life threatening and certainly not worthy of the disproportionate responses appearing elsewhere on this thread.
of course it needs an aggressive response we need to make a point that this type of behaviour will not be tolerated. that scumbag had no right to attack anyone I don't give a rats how drunk or 'vulnerable' pepole say he might be common courtesy, respect and etiquette require nothing. There is no excuse for lashing out at a professional no matter how bad the resulting injury. It is stil assault. This bloke needs to have the bookeys thrown at him as an example to any other trash who think they can as **** innocent people no matter where they live or there social situation.
OK. My whole intervention in this thread was not to say that the guy should get off scot free. I actually don't think that. He should go to trial and be sentenced in accordance with the principles of our justice
system.

My point was that a lot of people on this thread have been advocating disproportionate and often violent responses, together with intemperate language (eg 'scumbag' and 'trash' just in your own last post) that frankly look rather like the kneejerk aggressive response of the drunk in the story.

It probably won't have much effect (I see my original post now has 30 negative votes), but I'm trying to get at least some of those people to see their opinions and the way they express them as a mirror image of the behaviour of a randomly violent drunk.
[quote][p][bold]weston1987[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rotterdam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]scrumpyjack[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rotterdam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thevoiceofreason1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rotterdam[/bold] wrote: Oh dear. All the usual ultra violent responses aimed at somebody who is clearly vulnerable, inadequate and probably drunk. Paramedics will be trained to deal properly with this kind of situation (good for them!). The offender was was obviously fairly easy to restrain, so why the obsessive desire to respond with disproportionate force? Irony is a meaningless concept for you people, isn't it ?[/p][/quote]fairly easy to restrain...that will be why he got 2 punches in on one and went for the other.you are a deluded idiot![/p][/quote]But what constitutes 'a punch'. What constitutes 'going for somebody' when the offender is probably very very drunk? I'm guessing this is exactly the kind of situation paramedics are trained to deal with. I don't why this is even a story, unless it's supposed to confirm people's apparent prejudices about Boscombe. I think you are interpreting the story in a way that conforms to your own prejudices, which is also somewhat ironic considering what you call yourself ![/p][/quote]More gems from you? 'But what constitutes 'a punch'' From the story: A spokesperson for Dorset Police confirmed..... that the victim had sustained “reddening and minor swelling to the cheekbone”. Perhaps he punched him ironically?[/p][/quote]So he wasn't actually hit very hard or effectively. The sort of thing anybody in any frontline service will experience from time it time. Not very nice, but a long way from being life threatening and certainly not worthy of the disproportionate responses appearing elsewhere on this thread.[/p][/quote]of course it needs an aggressive response we need to make a point that this type of behaviour will not be tolerated. that scumbag had no right to attack anyone I don't give a rats how drunk or 'vulnerable' pepole say he might be common courtesy, respect and etiquette require nothing. There is no excuse for lashing out at a professional no matter how bad the resulting injury. It is stil assault. This bloke needs to have the bookeys thrown at him as an example to any other trash who think they can as **** innocent people no matter where they live or there social situation.[/p][/quote]OK. My whole intervention in this thread was not to say that the guy should get off scot free. I actually don't think that. He should go to trial and be sentenced in accordance with the principles of our justice system. My point was that a lot of people on this thread have been advocating disproportionate and often violent responses, together with intemperate language (eg 'scumbag' and 'trash' just in your own last post) that frankly look rather like the kneejerk aggressive response of the drunk in the story. It probably won't have much effect (I see my original post now has 30 negative votes), but I'm trying to get at least some of those people to see their opinions and the way they express them as a mirror image of the behaviour of a randomly violent drunk. Rotterdam
  • Score: -3

9:53pm Fri 1 Aug 14

weston1987 says...

Rotterdam wrote:
weston1987 wrote:
Rotterdam wrote:
scrumpyjack wrote:
Rotterdam wrote:
thevoiceofreason1 wrote:
Rotterdam wrote:
Oh dear. All the usual ultra violent responses aimed at somebody who is clearly vulnerable, inadequate and probably drunk. Paramedics will be trained to deal properly with this kind of situation (good for them!). The offender was was obviously fairly easy to restrain, so why the obsessive desire to respond with disproportionate force?

Irony is a meaningless concept for you people, isn't it ?
fairly easy to restrain...that will be why he got 2 punches in on one and went for the other.you are a deluded idiot!
But what constitutes 'a punch'. What constitutes 'going for somebody' when the offender is probably very very drunk? I'm guessing this is exactly the kind of situation paramedics are trained to deal with. I don't why this is even a story, unless it's supposed to confirm people's apparent prejudices about Boscombe.

I think you are interpreting the story in a way that conforms to your own prejudices, which is also somewhat ironic considering what you call yourself !
More gems from you?

'But what constitutes 'a punch''

From the story:

A spokesperson for Dorset Police confirmed..... that the victim had sustained “reddening and minor swelling to the cheekbone”.



Perhaps he punched him ironically?
So he wasn't actually hit very hard or effectively.

The sort of thing anybody in any frontline service will experience from time it time.

Not very nice, but a long way from being life threatening and certainly not worthy of the disproportionate responses appearing elsewhere on this thread.
of course it needs an aggressive response we need to make a point that this type of behaviour will not be tolerated. that scumbag had no right to attack anyone I don't give a rats how drunk or 'vulnerable' pepole say he might be common courtesy, respect and etiquette require nothing. There is no excuse for lashing out at a professional no matter how bad the resulting injury. It is stil assault. This bloke needs to have the bookeys thrown at him as an example to any other trash who think they can as **** innocent people no matter where they live or there social situation.
OK. My whole intervention in this thread was not to say that the guy should get off scot free. I actually don't think that. He should go to trial and be sentenced in accordance with the principles of our justice
system.

My point was that a lot of people on this thread have been advocating disproportionate and often violent responses, together with intemperate language (eg 'scumbag' and 'trash' just in your own last post) that frankly look rather like the kneejerk aggressive response of the drunk in the story.

It probably won't have much effect (I see my original post now has 30 negative votes), but I'm trying to get at least some of those people to see their opinions and the way they express them as a mirror image of the behaviour of a randomly violent drunk.
Yeah but it's not. I don't want or condone a violent outcome that would be wrong but I do think he should be punished and it should be a proportionate sentence which means jail. I am an educated person with a lot of tolerance and I think that the word scum and trash are completely appropriate as people who behave like this don't deserve any higher opinion. That's all I'm saying.
[quote][p][bold]Rotterdam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]weston1987[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rotterdam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]scrumpyjack[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rotterdam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thevoiceofreason1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rotterdam[/bold] wrote: Oh dear. All the usual ultra violent responses aimed at somebody who is clearly vulnerable, inadequate and probably drunk. Paramedics will be trained to deal properly with this kind of situation (good for them!). The offender was was obviously fairly easy to restrain, so why the obsessive desire to respond with disproportionate force? Irony is a meaningless concept for you people, isn't it ?[/p][/quote]fairly easy to restrain...that will be why he got 2 punches in on one and went for the other.you are a deluded idiot![/p][/quote]But what constitutes 'a punch'. What constitutes 'going for somebody' when the offender is probably very very drunk? I'm guessing this is exactly the kind of situation paramedics are trained to deal with. I don't why this is even a story, unless it's supposed to confirm people's apparent prejudices about Boscombe. I think you are interpreting the story in a way that conforms to your own prejudices, which is also somewhat ironic considering what you call yourself ![/p][/quote]More gems from you? 'But what constitutes 'a punch'' From the story: A spokesperson for Dorset Police confirmed..... that the victim had sustained “reddening and minor swelling to the cheekbone”. Perhaps he punched him ironically?[/p][/quote]So he wasn't actually hit very hard or effectively. The sort of thing anybody in any frontline service will experience from time it time. Not very nice, but a long way from being life threatening and certainly not worthy of the disproportionate responses appearing elsewhere on this thread.[/p][/quote]of course it needs an aggressive response we need to make a point that this type of behaviour will not be tolerated. that scumbag had no right to attack anyone I don't give a rats how drunk or 'vulnerable' pepole say he might be common courtesy, respect and etiquette require nothing. There is no excuse for lashing out at a professional no matter how bad the resulting injury. It is stil assault. This bloke needs to have the bookeys thrown at him as an example to any other trash who think they can as **** innocent people no matter where they live or there social situation.[/p][/quote]OK. My whole intervention in this thread was not to say that the guy should get off scot free. I actually don't think that. He should go to trial and be sentenced in accordance with the principles of our justice system. My point was that a lot of people on this thread have been advocating disproportionate and often violent responses, together with intemperate language (eg 'scumbag' and 'trash' just in your own last post) that frankly look rather like the kneejerk aggressive response of the drunk in the story. It probably won't have much effect (I see my original post now has 30 negative votes), but I'm trying to get at least some of those people to see their opinions and the way they express them as a mirror image of the behaviour of a randomly violent drunk.[/p][/quote]Yeah but it's not. I don't want or condone a violent outcome that would be wrong but I do think he should be punished and it should be a proportionate sentence which means jail. I am an educated person with a lot of tolerance and I think that the word scum and trash are completely appropriate as people who behave like this don't deserve any higher opinion. That's all I'm saying. weston1987
  • Score: 2

9:56pm Fri 1 Aug 14

weston1987 says...

Not sure why in my previous post assault has been starred out and by aggressive I mean aggressive approach by the law and courts not physical violence towards the offender.maybe I did not make that clear. I do not condone violence
Not sure why in my previous post assault has been starred out and by aggressive I mean aggressive approach by the law and courts not physical violence towards the offender.maybe I did not make that clear. I do not condone violence weston1987
  • Score: 0

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