New 'Your Kindness Could Kill' campaign urging people to donate instead of handing over cash to beggars

'Your kindness could kill' - don't hand cash over to beggars on the street, public urged

'Your kindness could kill' - don't hand cash over to beggars on the street, public urged

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PROBLEMS with begging and drunkenness in Bournemouth are being made worse by donations from kind-hearted members of the public, say Bournemouth council.

A new campaign launched today is warning “Your Kindness Could Kill” in a bid to stop people handing over cash to people in the street.

They are urging the public to donate directly to the borough’s Rough Sleeper Team who provide help with housing, benefits and health to those living on the streets in the town.

A minimum donation of £1 can be made via text.

A count of rough sleepers recently revealed there are just 16 rough sleepers in Bournemouth but many more beggars.

Bournemouth town centre, Boscombe Precinct and the Travel Interchange are particular hotspots.

The council regularly receives complaints from residents and visitors about aggressive begging, drunkenness and other forms of anti-social behaviour.

Strategic Housing Manager Kelly Ansell said there is no need for anyone to be begging on the streets and that help is available.

“This is about engaging with people to bring them back indoors” she said.

“By giving money direct to services you can be of more help. If money is given to the beggars it helps them to stay on the streets and in danger for longer.”

Cllr Robert Lawton, Cabinet Member for Housing, added: “Cash enables beggars to stay on the streets where they are not safe. We want to encourage people to help them in a different way.”

He stressed all money donated will go to the Rough Sleepers Team who run day centres to engage homeless people with the agencies that can help them.

Community safety manager Andrew Williams said the council receives complaints about rowdy groups of rough sleepers and said some demand cash or intimidate members of the public by sitting next to cash machines.

The campaign is being run in conjunction with Dorset Police and a number of actions have been identified including targeted police patrols, continued outreach work, street cleansing, supported housing advice, tighter licensing controls and joint work with local churches.

Posters are being put up in public areas in the town asking people to text KIND64 £1 to 70070.

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12:01pm Mon 28 Jul 14

Huey says...

Whenever I am asked for money, I pull a look of dismay, put my hand on my forehead and say "Oh no! I was going to ask you the same thing!".
Works every time.
Whenever I am asked for money, I pull a look of dismay, put my hand on my forehead and say "Oh no! I was going to ask you the same thing!". Works every time. Huey
  • Score: 24

12:53pm Mon 28 Jul 14

nickynoodah says...

Stain
Stain nickynoodah
  • Score: -18

12:55pm Mon 28 Jul 14

saynomore says...

Nobody needs to beg in this country,I stopped feeling sorry for them a few years ago when one pulled out his mobile phone to take a call,just by them a copy of the Echo and tell them to check the jobs page, they are not all homeless.
Nobody needs to beg in this country,I stopped feeling sorry for them a few years ago when one pulled out his mobile phone to take a call,just by them a copy of the Echo and tell them to check the jobs page, they are not all homeless. saynomore
  • Score: 33

12:57pm Mon 28 Jul 14

bosco1 says...

Anything is worth a try if it gets rid of the beggars, who mainly want money for alcohol, that is not saying every beggar on the streets is the same but tends to be most. I walk from Staples to Horseshoe common most days of the week I am asked at least by 10 people "Have you any loose change" I tend not to answer back because if you do you receive a mouthful of abuse.! This is a typical days route of beggars that I see several times asking for money.

1..Outside Asda 2..In the Subway entrance 3..On the seats at st pauls subway/underpass. 4.. Outside Tesco Express 5..Sitting on steps outside TSB Bank 6..Outside Landsdowne Post Office 7..Outside Mccolls newsagents old christchurch road 8..Outside Nationwide Building Soc 9.. Sitting outside closed down store just past McDonalds and im sure there are people who see as many around the town.So yes have to agree people that are happy to part with there cash do have an alternative, and we may see less on the streets.!
Anything is worth a try if it gets rid of the beggars, who mainly want money for alcohol, that is not saying every beggar on the streets is the same but tends to be most. I walk from Staples to Horseshoe common most days of the week I am asked at least by 10 people "Have you any loose change" I tend not to answer back because if you do you receive a mouthful of abuse.! This is a typical days route of beggars that I see several times asking for money. 1..Outside Asda 2..In the Subway entrance 3..On the seats at st pauls subway/underpass. 4.. Outside Tesco Express 5..Sitting on steps outside TSB Bank 6..Outside Landsdowne Post Office 7..Outside Mccolls newsagents old christchurch road 8..Outside Nationwide Building Soc 9.. Sitting outside closed down store just past McDonalds and im sure there are people who see as many around the town.So yes have to agree people that are happy to part with there cash do have an alternative, and we may see less on the streets.! bosco1
  • Score: 30

1:25pm Mon 28 Jul 14

crystal-coast says...

I've been asked every time im in the town centre. I reported it to the town rangers (who actually did something about it ) on this occasion I was asked 5 times while I was at the natwest cash point. The man thought I was a different person every time. They begged a couple of kids who gave them there wallet. I called the police but I was told it was not an emergancy. Then they give the money to a young girl and shelled off and comes back with a bag of drugs. I rang the police again and still nothing but I told the town rangers and they moved them along as called the police. What I found funny was the police arrived when they called!
I've been asked every time im in the town centre. I reported it to the town rangers (who actually did something about it ) on this occasion I was asked 5 times while I was at the natwest cash point. The man thought I was a different person every time. They begged a couple of kids who gave them there wallet. I called the police but I was told it was not an emergancy. Then they give the money to a young girl and shelled off and comes back with a bag of drugs. I rang the police again and still nothing but I told the town rangers and they moved them along as called the police. What I found funny was the police arrived when they called! crystal-coast
  • Score: 26

1:27pm Mon 28 Jul 14

H2o-hara says...

saynomore wrote:
Nobody needs to beg in this country,I stopped feeling sorry for them a few years ago when one pulled out his mobile phone to take a call,just by them a copy of the Echo and tell them to check the jobs page, they are not all homeless.
There's a Big Issue seller permanently outside Ferndown Tescos with a mobile phone about 10 times more expensive than mine .
[quote][p][bold]saynomore[/bold] wrote: Nobody needs to beg in this country,I stopped feeling sorry for them a few years ago when one pulled out his mobile phone to take a call,just by them a copy of the Echo and tell them to check the jobs page, they are not all homeless.[/p][/quote]There's a Big Issue seller permanently outside Ferndown Tescos with a mobile phone about 10 times more expensive than mine . H2o-hara
  • Score: 26

1:30pm Mon 28 Jul 14

speedy231278 says...

The fact that at least one seller is constantly selling at a pitch that was abolished years ago and despite many complaints from locals and even photo evidence they come back with the standard response of 'our sellers would never do that' is all you need to know about the Big Issue. They're just making money off the back of people's blindness to reality. One of the other regular sellers keeps telling everyone he is homeless (against the terms of selling), yet on one occasion I passed him in Tesco while he was carrying a basket with five pounds of spuds and several trays of steak! How can a homeless person cook food, and why would they if they are also trying to raise money for a bed in the night shelter (something else they aren't allowed to say) ?

99.999% of those out on the streets in Bournemouth are professional beggars, and most have been around for donkey's years. They even pass the same few dogs around between their various groups when not on duty to maximise the sympathy vote - how can they afford to buy one if they are skint, and if they are homeless, who is selling them to them on the sly?
The fact that at least one seller is constantly selling at a pitch that was abolished years ago and despite many complaints from locals and even photo evidence they come back with the standard response of 'our sellers would never do that' is all you need to know about the Big Issue. They're just making money off the back of people's blindness to reality. One of the other regular sellers keeps telling everyone he is homeless (against the terms of selling), yet on one occasion I passed him in Tesco while he was carrying a basket with five pounds of spuds and several trays of steak! How can a homeless person cook food, and why would they if they are also trying to raise money for a bed in the night shelter (something else they aren't allowed to say) ? 99.999% of those out on the streets in Bournemouth are professional beggars, and most have been around for donkey's years. They even pass the same few dogs around between their various groups when not on duty to maximise the sympathy vote - how can they afford to buy one if they are skint, and if they are homeless, who is selling them to them on the sly? speedy231278
  • Score: 23

1:35pm Mon 28 Jul 14

BIGTONE says...

“By giving money direct to services you can be of more help. If money is given to the beggars it helps them to stay on the streets and in danger for longer......

So Central/Local Government are hoping for donations to help fund them instead?
Use some of the millions we send overseas instead. No arguments.
“By giving money direct to services you can be of more help. If money is given to the beggars it helps them to stay on the streets and in danger for longer...... So Central/Local Government are hoping for donations to help fund them instead? Use some of the millions we send overseas instead. No arguments. BIGTONE
  • Score: 20

2:02pm Mon 28 Jul 14

freespeech4all says...

Don't give the begger money, give it to us instead asks this charity. is there any difference between the two. they both stop you in the street, ask you for money, give you a sob story and when you don't hand over come they try make you feel guilty. sorry there is a difference, the begger doesn't have min cash requirement
Don't give the begger money, give it to us instead asks this charity. is there any difference between the two. they both stop you in the street, ask you for money, give you a sob story and when you don't hand over come they try make you feel guilty. sorry there is a difference, the begger doesn't have min cash requirement freespeech4all
  • Score: 13

2:16pm Mon 28 Jul 14

Sir Cliff West says...

Chuggers or beggars, which is worse ?

Chuggers gets my vote.
Chuggers or beggars, which is worse ? Chuggers gets my vote. Sir Cliff West
  • Score: 16

3:09pm Mon 28 Jul 14

BmthNewshound says...

Another money making scam from Bournemouth Council. You'd be mad to believe that donations would be ring fenced and used to help the homeless, more likely to be used to fund one of Beesleys pet projects.
.
The real reason the Council don't want people to give money to the homeless is that if begging in Bournemouth offers only slim pickings then the homeless will move elsewhere.
Another money making scam from Bournemouth Council. You'd be mad to believe that donations would be ring fenced and used to help the homeless, more likely to be used to fund one of Beesleys pet projects. . The real reason the Council don't want people to give money to the homeless is that if begging in Bournemouth offers only slim pickings then the homeless will move elsewhere. BmthNewshound
  • Score: 10

3:21pm Mon 28 Jul 14

mark.s says...

Westover road always has at least a couple of beggers. Along with the underpass at St Pauls, they're the worst spots in my view.
Westover road always has at least a couple of beggers. Along with the underpass at St Pauls, they're the worst spots in my view. mark.s
  • Score: 10

3:28pm Mon 28 Jul 14

Lord Parkstone says...

Giving change to beggars keeps the offie selling sherry and special brew as well as keeping dealers in business.
The alternative is donating to charity and having the government cream off its share.
Giving change to beggars keeps the offie selling sherry and special brew as well as keeping dealers in business. The alternative is donating to charity and having the government cream off its share. Lord Parkstone
  • Score: 10

3:47pm Mon 28 Jul 14

pete woodley says...

speedy231278 wrote:
The fact that at least one seller is constantly selling at a pitch that was abolished years ago and despite many complaints from locals and even photo evidence they come back with the standard response of 'our sellers would never do that' is all you need to know about the Big Issue. They're just making money off the back of people's blindness to reality. One of the other regular sellers keeps telling everyone he is homeless (against the terms of selling), yet on one occasion I passed him in Tesco while he was carrying a basket with five pounds of spuds and several trays of steak! How can a homeless person cook food, and why would they if they are also trying to raise money for a bed in the night shelter (something else they aren't allowed to say) ?

99.999% of those out on the streets in Bournemouth are professional beggars, and most have been around for donkey's years. They even pass the same few dogs around between their various groups when not on duty to maximise the sympathy vote - how can they afford to buy one if they are skint, and if they are homeless, who is selling them to them on the sly?
Its no good telling the truth,it will upset the do gooders.The Big Issue seller outside Waitrose in Winton is loaded,and runs a motor.
[quote][p][bold]speedy231278[/bold] wrote: The fact that at least one seller is constantly selling at a pitch that was abolished years ago and despite many complaints from locals and even photo evidence they come back with the standard response of 'our sellers would never do that' is all you need to know about the Big Issue. They're just making money off the back of people's blindness to reality. One of the other regular sellers keeps telling everyone he is homeless (against the terms of selling), yet on one occasion I passed him in Tesco while he was carrying a basket with five pounds of spuds and several trays of steak! How can a homeless person cook food, and why would they if they are also trying to raise money for a bed in the night shelter (something else they aren't allowed to say) ? 99.999% of those out on the streets in Bournemouth are professional beggars, and most have been around for donkey's years. They even pass the same few dogs around between their various groups when not on duty to maximise the sympathy vote - how can they afford to buy one if they are skint, and if they are homeless, who is selling them to them on the sly?[/p][/quote]Its no good telling the truth,it will upset the do gooders.The Big Issue seller outside Waitrose in Winton is loaded,and runs a motor. pete woodley
  • Score: 16

3:56pm Mon 28 Jul 14

politicaltrainspotter says...

So what did the 'Big Wigs' learn from this meeting.Nothing.

If your in Holdenhurst Road and get stopped by a large female with back hair crying.It's a scam.As when you give her money she's in the nearest off-licence buying booze.She recently got done for criminal damage to a car in Holdenhurst Road.It's all stated ''In The Dock' section.
So what did the 'Big Wigs' learn from this meeting.Nothing. If your in Holdenhurst Road and get stopped by a large female with back hair crying.It's a scam.As when you give her money she's in the nearest off-licence buying booze.She recently got done for criminal damage to a car in Holdenhurst Road.It's all stated ''In The Dock' section. politicaltrainspotter
  • Score: 8

4:12pm Mon 28 Jul 14

Sir Cliff West says...

politicaltrainspotte
r
wrote:
So what did the 'Big Wigs' learn from this meeting.Nothing.

If your in Holdenhurst Road and get stopped by a large female with back hair crying.It's a scam.As when you give her money she's in the nearest off-licence buying booze.She recently got done for criminal damage to a car in Holdenhurst Road.It's all stated ''In The Dock' section.
I know its difficult for some but jogging is the way. No beggar asks anything of a jogger. When you see some dodgy characters ahead just slip on a headband, puff a bit loudly and jog past. Then when clear, remove headband, and reduce speed to normal walking pace.
It's a method that has served me well for years. :-)
[quote][p][bold]politicaltrainspotte r[/bold] wrote: So what did the 'Big Wigs' learn from this meeting.Nothing. If your in Holdenhurst Road and get stopped by a large female with back hair crying.It's a scam.As when you give her money she's in the nearest off-licence buying booze.She recently got done for criminal damage to a car in Holdenhurst Road.It's all stated ''In The Dock' section.[/p][/quote]I know its difficult for some but jogging is the way. No beggar asks anything of a jogger. When you see some dodgy characters ahead just slip on a headband, puff a bit loudly and jog past. Then when clear, remove headband, and reduce speed to normal walking pace. It's a method that has served me well for years. :-) Sir Cliff West
  • Score: 10

4:24pm Mon 28 Jul 14

bobthedestroyer says...

crystal-coast wrote:
I've been asked every time im in the town centre. I reported it to the town rangers (who actually did something about it ) on this occasion I was asked 5 times while I was at the natwest cash point. The man thought I was a different person every time. They begged a couple of kids who gave them there wallet. I called the police but I was told it was not an emergancy. Then they give the money to a young girl and shelled off and comes back with a bag of drugs. I rang the police again and still nothing but I told the town rangers and they moved them along as called the police. What I found funny was the police arrived when they called!
Our faithful Police not trusting the public. If they ignore the rangers there is a "report" made about lack of police support. You were interfering the rangers were working
[quote][p][bold]crystal-coast[/bold] wrote: I've been asked every time im in the town centre. I reported it to the town rangers (who actually did something about it ) on this occasion I was asked 5 times while I was at the natwest cash point. The man thought I was a different person every time. They begged a couple of kids who gave them there wallet. I called the police but I was told it was not an emergancy. Then they give the money to a young girl and shelled off and comes back with a bag of drugs. I rang the police again and still nothing but I told the town rangers and they moved them along as called the police. What I found funny was the police arrived when they called![/p][/quote]Our faithful Police not trusting the public. If they ignore the rangers there is a "report" made about lack of police support. You were interfering the rangers were working bobthedestroyer
  • Score: 7

4:47pm Mon 28 Jul 14

master plan says...

I gave this one beggar money weekly as I felt sorry for him as he gave me a whole life story and I got quite friendly with him and was in the process freeing up some work to give him a job even tho I don't need the help until one night I planned to see an old friend in the acorn pub while I was in there I notice out the corner of my eye a guy with wads of cash probably £600 or £700 quid easily I turned round to have a better look who would take that much into a dive like that and it was the beggar. I was speechless he looked at me as he has never spoke to me in his life from that day I vow never to give to beggars strangely I've never seen him in Poole high street since
I gave this one beggar money weekly as I felt sorry for him as he gave me a whole life story and I got quite friendly with him and was in the process freeing up some work to give him a job even tho I don't need the help until one night I planned to see an old friend in the acorn pub while I was in there I notice out the corner of my eye a guy with wads of cash probably £600 or £700 quid easily I turned round to have a better look who would take that much into a dive like that and it was the beggar. I was speechless he looked at me as he has never spoke to me in his life from that day I vow never to give to beggars strangely I've never seen him in Poole high street since master plan
  • Score: 10

5:08pm Mon 28 Jul 14

politicaltrainspotter says...

Sir Cliff West wrote:
politicaltrainspotte

r
wrote:
So what did the 'Big Wigs' learn from this meeting.Nothing.

If your in Holdenhurst Road and get stopped by a large female with back hair crying.It's a scam.As when you give her money she's in the nearest off-licence buying booze.She recently got done for criminal damage to a car in Holdenhurst Road.It's all stated ''In The Dock' section.
I know its difficult for some but jogging is the way. No beggar asks anything of a jogger. When you see some dodgy characters ahead just slip on a headband, puff a bit loudly and jog past. Then when clear, remove headband, and reduce speed to normal walking pace.
It's a method that has served me well for years. :-)
Tried that and failed.
[quote][p][bold]Sir Cliff West[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]politicaltrainspotte r[/bold] wrote: So what did the 'Big Wigs' learn from this meeting.Nothing. If your in Holdenhurst Road and get stopped by a large female with back hair crying.It's a scam.As when you give her money she's in the nearest off-licence buying booze.She recently got done for criminal damage to a car in Holdenhurst Road.It's all stated ''In The Dock' section.[/p][/quote]I know its difficult for some but jogging is the way. No beggar asks anything of a jogger. When you see some dodgy characters ahead just slip on a headband, puff a bit loudly and jog past. Then when clear, remove headband, and reduce speed to normal walking pace. It's a method that has served me well for years. :-)[/p][/quote]Tried that and failed. politicaltrainspotter
  • Score: 3

5:18pm Mon 28 Jul 14

Redgolfer says...

politicaltrainspotte
r
wrote:
So what did the 'Big Wigs' learn from this meeting.Nothing.

If your in Holdenhurst Road and get stopped by a large female with back hair crying.It's a scam.As when you give her money she's in the nearest off-licence buying booze.She recently got done for criminal damage to a car in Holdenhurst Road.It's all stated ''In The Dock' section.
Try living one door down from the women you are talking about and her male accomplice, we have had to phone the police more than once to these two but where do the owners of the house they live in live, ''Sandbanks'' nice work if you can get it, put the dregs of society well away from where they live and Bugger the locals who have to live as neighbors.
[quote][p][bold]politicaltrainspotte r[/bold] wrote: So what did the 'Big Wigs' learn from this meeting.Nothing. If your in Holdenhurst Road and get stopped by a large female with back hair crying.It's a scam.As when you give her money she's in the nearest off-licence buying booze.She recently got done for criminal damage to a car in Holdenhurst Road.It's all stated ''In The Dock' section.[/p][/quote]Try living one door down from the women you are talking about and her male accomplice, we have had to phone the police more than once to these two but where do the owners of the house they live in live, ''Sandbanks'' nice work if you can get it, put the dregs of society well away from where they live and Bugger the locals who have to live as neighbors. Redgolfer
  • Score: 17

5:32pm Mon 28 Jul 14

Specialist says...

H2o-hara wrote:
saynomore wrote:
Nobody needs to beg in this country,I stopped feeling sorry for them a few years ago when one pulled out his mobile phone to take a call,just by them a copy of the Echo and tell them to check the jobs page, they are not all homeless.
There's a Big Issue seller permanently outside Ferndown Tescos with a mobile phone about 10 times more expensive than mine .
She's part of a Romanian gang who buy in bulk ''The Big Issue'' and sell them all around dorset, always gets droped off in a big car and lives in a house in Winton...... oh and she's always got a fully charged bluetooth headset for her expensive phone!!!!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]H2o-hara[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saynomore[/bold] wrote: Nobody needs to beg in this country,I stopped feeling sorry for them a few years ago when one pulled out his mobile phone to take a call,just by them a copy of the Echo and tell them to check the jobs page, they are not all homeless.[/p][/quote]There's a Big Issue seller permanently outside Ferndown Tescos with a mobile phone about 10 times more expensive than mine .[/p][/quote]She's part of a Romanian gang who buy in bulk ''The Big Issue'' and sell them all around dorset, always gets droped off in a big car and lives in a house in Winton...... oh and she's always got a fully charged bluetooth headset for her expensive phone!!!!!!!! Specialist
  • Score: 15

5:34pm Mon 28 Jul 14

Specialist says...

pete woodley wrote:
speedy231278 wrote:
The fact that at least one seller is constantly selling at a pitch that was abolished years ago and despite many complaints from locals and even photo evidence they come back with the standard response of 'our sellers would never do that' is all you need to know about the Big Issue. They're just making money off the back of people's blindness to reality. One of the other regular sellers keeps telling everyone he is homeless (against the terms of selling), yet on one occasion I passed him in Tesco while he was carrying a basket with five pounds of spuds and several trays of steak! How can a homeless person cook food, and why would they if they are also trying to raise money for a bed in the night shelter (something else they aren't allowed to say) ?

99.999% of those out on the streets in Bournemouth are professional beggars, and most have been around for donkey's years. They even pass the same few dogs around between their various groups when not on duty to maximise the sympathy vote - how can they afford to buy one if they are skint, and if they are homeless, who is selling them to them on the sly?
Its no good telling the truth,it will upset the do gooders.The Big Issue seller outside Waitrose in Winton is loaded,and runs a motor.
All part of the Romanian gang who buy Big Issue in bulk!!!
[quote][p][bold]pete woodley[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]speedy231278[/bold] wrote: The fact that at least one seller is constantly selling at a pitch that was abolished years ago and despite many complaints from locals and even photo evidence they come back with the standard response of 'our sellers would never do that' is all you need to know about the Big Issue. They're just making money off the back of people's blindness to reality. One of the other regular sellers keeps telling everyone he is homeless (against the terms of selling), yet on one occasion I passed him in Tesco while he was carrying a basket with five pounds of spuds and several trays of steak! How can a homeless person cook food, and why would they if they are also trying to raise money for a bed in the night shelter (something else they aren't allowed to say) ? 99.999% of those out on the streets in Bournemouth are professional beggars, and most have been around for donkey's years. They even pass the same few dogs around between their various groups when not on duty to maximise the sympathy vote - how can they afford to buy one if they are skint, and if they are homeless, who is selling them to them on the sly?[/p][/quote]Its no good telling the truth,it will upset the do gooders.The Big Issue seller outside Waitrose in Winton is loaded,and runs a motor.[/p][/quote]All part of the Romanian gang who buy Big Issue in bulk!!! Specialist
  • Score: 10

5:43pm Mon 28 Jul 14

Sir Cliff West says...

Specialist wrote:
H2o-hara wrote:
saynomore wrote:
Nobody needs to beg in this country,I stopped feeling sorry for them a few years ago when one pulled out his mobile phone to take a call,just by them a copy of the Echo and tell them to check the jobs page, they are not all homeless.
There's a Big Issue seller permanently outside Ferndown Tescos with a mobile phone about 10 times more expensive than mine .
She's part of a Romanian gang who buy in bulk ''The Big Issue'' and sell them all around dorset, always gets droped off in a big car and lives in a house in Winton...... oh and she's always got a fully charged bluetooth headset for her expensive phone!!!!!!!!
The fat issue seller outside lloyds bank in Bournemouth is Romanian, I asked him.
The little women in sandals and socks (yuk) next to to the railway crossing in Poole high street is Romanian too. Were meant to say, oh dear how sad. I say deport them.
[quote][p][bold]Specialist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]H2o-hara[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saynomore[/bold] wrote: Nobody needs to beg in this country,I stopped feeling sorry for them a few years ago when one pulled out his mobile phone to take a call,just by them a copy of the Echo and tell them to check the jobs page, they are not all homeless.[/p][/quote]There's a Big Issue seller permanently outside Ferndown Tescos with a mobile phone about 10 times more expensive than mine .[/p][/quote]She's part of a Romanian gang who buy in bulk ''The Big Issue'' and sell them all around dorset, always gets droped off in a big car and lives in a house in Winton...... oh and she's always got a fully charged bluetooth headset for her expensive phone!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]The fat issue seller outside lloyds bank in Bournemouth is Romanian, I asked him. The little women in sandals and socks (yuk) next to to the railway crossing in Poole high street is Romanian too. Were meant to say, oh dear how sad. I say deport them. Sir Cliff West
  • Score: 28

6:43pm Mon 28 Jul 14

nickynoodah says...

The nobaths and georges on here
have forgotten they themselves were selling big issues a few years back,
but hey short memories you know it is.
The nobaths and georges on here have forgotten they themselves were selling big issues a few years back, but hey short memories you know it is. nickynoodah
  • Score: -15

6:52pm Mon 28 Jul 14

grumpyolddear says...

Sir Cliff West wrote:
politicaltrainspotte

r
wrote:
So what did the 'Big Wigs' learn from this meeting.Nothing.

If your in Holdenhurst Road and get stopped by a large female with back hair crying.It's a scam.As when you give her money she's in the nearest off-licence buying booze.She recently got done for criminal damage to a car in Holdenhurst Road.It's all stated ''In The Dock' section.
I know its difficult for some but jogging is the way. No beggar asks anything of a jogger. When you see some dodgy characters ahead just slip on a headband, puff a bit loudly and jog past. Then when clear, remove headband, and reduce speed to normal walking pace.
It's a method that has served me well for years. :-)
Ha ha

Just make sure you jog fast, so you don't get mugged for your trainers!
[quote][p][bold]Sir Cliff West[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]politicaltrainspotte r[/bold] wrote: So what did the 'Big Wigs' learn from this meeting.Nothing. If your in Holdenhurst Road and get stopped by a large female with back hair crying.It's a scam.As when you give her money she's in the nearest off-licence buying booze.She recently got done for criminal damage to a car in Holdenhurst Road.It's all stated ''In The Dock' section.[/p][/quote]I know its difficult for some but jogging is the way. No beggar asks anything of a jogger. When you see some dodgy characters ahead just slip on a headband, puff a bit loudly and jog past. Then when clear, remove headband, and reduce speed to normal walking pace. It's a method that has served me well for years. :-)[/p][/quote]Ha ha Just make sure you jog fast, so you don't get mugged for your trainers! grumpyolddear
  • Score: 7

6:54pm Mon 28 Jul 14

Sir Cliff West says...

grumpyolddear wrote:
Sir Cliff West wrote:
politicaltrainspotte


r
wrote:
So what did the 'Big Wigs' learn from this meeting.Nothing.

If your in Holdenhurst Road and get stopped by a large female with back hair crying.It's a scam.As when you give her money she's in the nearest off-licence buying booze.She recently got done for criminal damage to a car in Holdenhurst Road.It's all stated ''In The Dock' section.
I know its difficult for some but jogging is the way. No beggar asks anything of a jogger. When you see some dodgy characters ahead just slip on a headband, puff a bit loudly and jog past. Then when clear, remove headband, and reduce speed to normal walking pace.
It's a method that has served me well for years. :-)
Ha ha

Just make sure you jog fast, so you don't get mugged for your trainers!
It's ok, I wear Hi Tec,
[quote][p][bold]grumpyolddear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sir Cliff West[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]politicaltrainspotte r[/bold] wrote: So what did the 'Big Wigs' learn from this meeting.Nothing. If your in Holdenhurst Road and get stopped by a large female with back hair crying.It's a scam.As when you give her money she's in the nearest off-licence buying booze.She recently got done for criminal damage to a car in Holdenhurst Road.It's all stated ''In The Dock' section.[/p][/quote]I know its difficult for some but jogging is the way. No beggar asks anything of a jogger. When you see some dodgy characters ahead just slip on a headband, puff a bit loudly and jog past. Then when clear, remove headband, and reduce speed to normal walking pace. It's a method that has served me well for years. :-)[/p][/quote]Ha ha Just make sure you jog fast, so you don't get mugged for your trainers![/p][/quote]It's ok, I wear Hi Tec, Sir Cliff West
  • Score: 6

7:32pm Mon 28 Jul 14

pete woodley says...

The one outside Waitrose is an English scrounger who leaves his dog ends all over the pavement,and lives in big house.
The one outside Waitrose is an English scrounger who leaves his dog ends all over the pavement,and lives in big house. pete woodley
  • Score: 11

7:47pm Mon 28 Jul 14

kalebmoledirt says...

Bournemouth and Poole ,classy.No wonder tourists go elsewhere
Bournemouth and Poole ,classy.No wonder tourists go elsewhere kalebmoledirt
  • Score: 4

8:11pm Mon 28 Jul 14

vwbournie says...

I allways ask them if they got change of a £50 pound note..shud see their faces light up!!
I allways ask them if they got change of a £50 pound note..shud see their faces light up!! vwbournie
  • Score: 5

8:40pm Mon 28 Jul 14

O'Reilly says...

BmthNewshound wrote:
Another money making scam from Bournemouth Council. You'd be mad to believe that donations would be ring fenced and used to help the homeless, more likely to be used to fund one of Beesleys pet projects.
.
The real reason the Council don't want people to give money to the homeless is that if begging in Bournemouth offers only slim pickings then the homeless will move elsewhere.
Yep.....bit like 'Sir' or should that be Saint Bob's Live Aid for the starving in Africa.....course the starving saw none of it, most of the money - after expenses - went to pay off the National Debts to the Banksters....
[quote][p][bold]BmthNewshound[/bold] wrote: Another money making scam from Bournemouth Council. You'd be mad to believe that donations would be ring fenced and used to help the homeless, more likely to be used to fund one of Beesleys pet projects. . The real reason the Council don't want people to give money to the homeless is that if begging in Bournemouth offers only slim pickings then the homeless will move elsewhere.[/p][/quote]Yep.....bit like 'Sir' or should that be Saint Bob's Live Aid for the starving in Africa.....course the starving saw none of it, most of the money - after expenses - went to pay off the National Debts to the Banksters.... O'Reilly
  • Score: 4

8:47pm Mon 28 Jul 14

dylexic bobert says...

politicaltrainspotte
r
wrote:
So what did the 'Big Wigs' learn from this meeting.Nothing.

If your in Holdenhurst Road and get stopped by a large female with back hair crying.It's a scam.As when you give her money she's in the nearest off-licence buying booze.She recently got done for criminal damage to a car in Holdenhurst Road.It's all stated ''In The Dock' section.
Aha that's crybaby. You get 50 points for spotting her
[quote][p][bold]politicaltrainspotte r[/bold] wrote: So what did the 'Big Wigs' learn from this meeting.Nothing. If your in Holdenhurst Road and get stopped by a large female with back hair crying.It's a scam.As when you give her money she's in the nearest off-licence buying booze.She recently got done for criminal damage to a car in Holdenhurst Road.It's all stated ''In The Dock' section.[/p][/quote]Aha that's crybaby. You get 50 points for spotting her dylexic bobert
  • Score: 4

8:49pm Mon 28 Jul 14

nickynoodah says...

Even if you only give them £1
its ok
every body is as happy as a sand boy
don't be ******g misers.
Even if you only give them £1 its ok every body is as happy as a sand boy don't be ******g misers. nickynoodah
  • Score: -15

11:05pm Mon 28 Jul 14

rotcoddam says...

only 16 rough sleepers in bournenouth????? Which bit of street did they do the count on. Boscombe alone probably has that many
only 16 rough sleepers in bournenouth????? Which bit of street did they do the count on. Boscombe alone probably has that many rotcoddam
  • Score: 9

11:21pm Mon 28 Jul 14

AdamSFC says...

H2o-hara wrote:
saynomore wrote:
Nobody needs to beg in this country,I stopped feeling sorry for them a few years ago when one pulled out his mobile phone to take a call,just by them a copy of the Echo and tell them to check the jobs page, they are not all homeless.
There's a Big Issue seller permanently outside Ferndown Tescos with a mobile phone about 10 times more expensive than mine .
Pretty sure they are given these by the Big Issue people so they are in contact with them.
[quote][p][bold]H2o-hara[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saynomore[/bold] wrote: Nobody needs to beg in this country,I stopped feeling sorry for them a few years ago when one pulled out his mobile phone to take a call,just by them a copy of the Echo and tell them to check the jobs page, they are not all homeless.[/p][/quote]There's a Big Issue seller permanently outside Ferndown Tescos with a mobile phone about 10 times more expensive than mine .[/p][/quote]Pretty sure they are given these by the Big Issue people so they are in contact with them. AdamSFC
  • Score: -3

11:29pm Mon 28 Jul 14

AdamSFC says...

vwbournie wrote:
I allways ask them if they got change of a £50 pound note..shud see their faces light up!!
I bet £50 you don't do this.
[quote][p][bold]vwbournie[/bold] wrote: I allways ask them if they got change of a £50 pound note..shud see their faces light up!![/p][/quote]I bet £50 you don't do this. AdamSFC
  • Score: 4

5:24am Tue 29 Jul 14

misplacedspaniard says...

Redgolfer wrote:
politicaltrainspotte

r
wrote:
So what did the 'Big Wigs' learn from this meeting.Nothing.

If your in Holdenhurst Road and get stopped by a large female with back hair crying.It's a scam.As when you give her money she's in the nearest off-licence buying booze.She recently got done for criminal damage to a car in Holdenhurst Road.It's all stated ''In The Dock' section.
Try living one door down from the women you are talking about and her male accomplice, we have had to phone the police more than once to these two but where do the owners of the house they live in live, ''Sandbanks'' nice work if you can get it, put the dregs of society well away from where they live and Bugger the locals who have to live as neighbors.
Landlords don't give a sh1t. They are all scum.
[quote][p][bold]Redgolfer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]politicaltrainspotte r[/bold] wrote: So what did the 'Big Wigs' learn from this meeting.Nothing. If your in Holdenhurst Road and get stopped by a large female with back hair crying.It's a scam.As when you give her money she's in the nearest off-licence buying booze.She recently got done for criminal damage to a car in Holdenhurst Road.It's all stated ''In The Dock' section.[/p][/quote]Try living one door down from the women you are talking about and her male accomplice, we have had to phone the police more than once to these two but where do the owners of the house they live in live, ''Sandbanks'' nice work if you can get it, put the dregs of society well away from where they live and Bugger the locals who have to live as neighbors.[/p][/quote]Landlords don't give a sh1t. They are all scum. misplacedspaniard
  • Score: 0

7:33am Tue 29 Jul 14

FerryFan says...

Sir Cliff West wrote:
Specialist wrote:
H2o-hara wrote:
saynomore wrote:
Nobody needs to beg in this country,I stopped feeling sorry for them a few years ago when one pulled out his mobile phone to take a call,just by them a copy of the Echo and tell them to check the jobs page, they are not all homeless.
There's a Big Issue seller permanently outside Ferndown Tescos with a mobile phone about 10 times more expensive than mine .
She's part of a Romanian gang who buy in bulk ''The Big Issue'' and sell them all around dorset, always gets droped off in a big car and lives in a house in Winton...... oh and she's always got a fully charged bluetooth headset for her expensive phone!!!!!!!!
The fat issue seller outside lloyds bank in Bournemouth is Romanian, I asked him.
The little women in sandals and socks (yuk) next to to the railway crossing in Poole high street is Romanian too. Were meant to say, oh dear how sad. I say deport them.
Never give to beggars, me - really want to get hold of the bleeding hearts and tell them they are actually doing more harm than good giving to these people. But would probably get similar abuse as would get from beggars when tell them no!!
[quote][p][bold]Sir Cliff West[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Specialist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]H2o-hara[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saynomore[/bold] wrote: Nobody needs to beg in this country,I stopped feeling sorry for them a few years ago when one pulled out his mobile phone to take a call,just by them a copy of the Echo and tell them to check the jobs page, they are not all homeless.[/p][/quote]There's a Big Issue seller permanently outside Ferndown Tescos with a mobile phone about 10 times more expensive than mine .[/p][/quote]She's part of a Romanian gang who buy in bulk ''The Big Issue'' and sell them all around dorset, always gets droped off in a big car and lives in a house in Winton...... oh and she's always got a fully charged bluetooth headset for her expensive phone!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]The fat issue seller outside lloyds bank in Bournemouth is Romanian, I asked him. The little women in sandals and socks (yuk) next to to the railway crossing in Poole high street is Romanian too. Were meant to say, oh dear how sad. I say deport them.[/p][/quote]Never give to beggars, me - really want to get hold of the bleeding hearts and tell them they are actually doing more harm than good giving to these people. But would probably get similar abuse as would get from beggars when tell them no!! FerryFan
  • Score: 3

8:17am Tue 29 Jul 14

tiggs61 says...

NOT SURE HOW BORNEMOUTH COUCIL CAN SAY THEIR ARE ONLY 16 ROUGH SLEEPERS IN BOURNEMOUTH.. I KNOW FOR A FACT THEIR ARE FAR MORE THAN THAT. I DONT GIVE TO BEGGERS. I WAS ASKED ONCE COULD I SPARE SOME CHANGE FOR A COFFEE.INSTEAD I GAVE THEM THE REWARDS YOU GET FROM MACDONOLDS FOR COFFEE. SINCE I STOPPED USING MACDONOLDS I DONT DO IT NOW. I SAY SORRY WHEN ASKED AND MOST HAVE SAID HAVE A NICE DAY...
NOT SURE HOW BORNEMOUTH COUCIL CAN SAY THEIR ARE ONLY 16 ROUGH SLEEPERS IN BOURNEMOUTH.. I KNOW FOR A FACT THEIR ARE FAR MORE THAN THAT. I DONT GIVE TO BEGGERS. I WAS ASKED ONCE COULD I SPARE SOME CHANGE FOR A COFFEE.INSTEAD I GAVE THEM THE REWARDS YOU GET FROM MACDONOLDS FOR COFFEE. SINCE I STOPPED USING MACDONOLDS I DONT DO IT NOW. I SAY SORRY WHEN ASKED AND MOST HAVE SAID HAVE A NICE DAY... tiggs61
  • Score: 4

8:20am Tue 29 Jul 14

Phixer says...

crystal-coast wrote:
I've been asked every time im in the town centre. I reported it to the town rangers (who actually did something about it ) on this occasion I was asked 5 times while I was at the natwest cash point. The man thought I was a different person every time. They begged a couple of kids who gave them there wallet. I called the police but I was told it was not an emergancy. Then they give the money to a young girl and shelled off and comes back with a bag of drugs. I rang the police again and still nothing but I told the town rangers and they moved them along as called the police. What I found funny was the police arrived when they called!
I don't regard the lack of police response to the public as being 'funny'. Not doing the job you're paid to do is fraudelent.
[quote][p][bold]crystal-coast[/bold] wrote: I've been asked every time im in the town centre. I reported it to the town rangers (who actually did something about it ) on this occasion I was asked 5 times while I was at the natwest cash point. The man thought I was a different person every time. They begged a couple of kids who gave them there wallet. I called the police but I was told it was not an emergancy. Then they give the money to a young girl and shelled off and comes back with a bag of drugs. I rang the police again and still nothing but I told the town rangers and they moved them along as called the police. What I found funny was the police arrived when they called![/p][/quote]I don't regard the lack of police response to the public as being 'funny'. Not doing the job you're paid to do is fraudelent. Phixer
  • Score: 1

8:33am Tue 29 Jul 14

wonderway says...

the main problem is sunny weather benefit holiday visitors they turn up from April beg borrow and steal to September and get their daily allowance from DWP

The council should work with the DWP and stop their benefits till they go home to rightful address they come here homeless and penny-less knowing the takings are good begging on streets

just look at court lists in Echo 20% of offenders are homeless stealing booze food and items to sell on for more booze

if they turn up here they should be sent back to last place of residency and that should be only place to claim benefits not for the six months of hell they cause here

as for sixteen rough sleepers there's 4 alone under Boscombe pier
the main problem is sunny weather benefit holiday visitors they turn up from April beg borrow and steal to September and get their daily allowance from DWP The council should work with the DWP and stop their benefits till they go home to rightful address they come here homeless and penny-less knowing the takings are good begging on streets just look at court lists in Echo 20% of offenders are homeless stealing booze food and items to sell on for more booze if they turn up here they should be sent back to last place of residency and that should be only place to claim benefits not for the six months of hell they cause here as for sixteen rough sleepers there's 4 alone under Boscombe pier wonderway
  • Score: 1

9:13am Tue 29 Jul 14

scrumpyjack says...

Sir Cliff West wrote:
Specialist wrote:
H2o-hara wrote:
saynomore wrote:
Nobody needs to beg in this country,I stopped feeling sorry for them a few years ago when one pulled out his mobile phone to take a call,just by them a copy of the Echo and tell them to check the jobs page, they are not all homeless.
There's a Big Issue seller permanently outside Ferndown Tescos with a mobile phone about 10 times more expensive than mine .
She's part of a Romanian gang who buy in bulk ''The Big Issue'' and sell them all around dorset, always gets droped off in a big car and lives in a house in Winton...... oh and she's always got a fully charged bluetooth headset for her expensive phone!!!!!!!!
The fat issue seller outside lloyds bank in Bournemouth is Romanian, I asked him.
The little women in sandals and socks (yuk) next to to the railway crossing in Poole high street is Romanian too. Were meant to say, oh dear how sad. I say deport them.
They are doubly keen to become Big Issue salesman as it means they can 'work' for 16 hours which means they are eligible for additional benefits.

There are no flies on 'em.
[quote][p][bold]Sir Cliff West[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Specialist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]H2o-hara[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saynomore[/bold] wrote: Nobody needs to beg in this country,I stopped feeling sorry for them a few years ago when one pulled out his mobile phone to take a call,just by them a copy of the Echo and tell them to check the jobs page, they are not all homeless.[/p][/quote]There's a Big Issue seller permanently outside Ferndown Tescos with a mobile phone about 10 times more expensive than mine .[/p][/quote]She's part of a Romanian gang who buy in bulk ''The Big Issue'' and sell them all around dorset, always gets droped off in a big car and lives in a house in Winton...... oh and she's always got a fully charged bluetooth headset for her expensive phone!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]The fat issue seller outside lloyds bank in Bournemouth is Romanian, I asked him. The little women in sandals and socks (yuk) next to to the railway crossing in Poole high street is Romanian too. Were meant to say, oh dear how sad. I say deport them.[/p][/quote]They are doubly keen to become Big Issue salesman as it means they can 'work' for 16 hours which means they are eligible for additional benefits. There are no flies on 'em. scrumpyjack
  • Score: 2

9:35am Tue 29 Jul 14

FerryFan says...

ignorant Biig Issue seller outside the APCOA car park in the Triangle, with his dog, he has sold the Issue for ages, not too keen on him, he can be a bit offish for no reason, then he'll speak. I ignore him now as I am fed up with being polite to him just to be ignored.
ignorant Biig Issue seller outside the APCOA car park in the Triangle, with his dog, he has sold the Issue for ages, not too keen on him, he can be a bit offish for no reason, then he'll speak. I ignore him now as I am fed up with being polite to him just to be ignored. FerryFan
  • Score: 3

12:11pm Tue 29 Jul 14

nickynoodah says...

scrumpyjack wrote:
Sir Cliff West wrote:
Specialist wrote:
H2o-hara wrote:
saynomore wrote:
Nobody needs to beg in this country,I stopped feeling sorry for them a few years ago when one pulled out his mobile phone to take a call,just by them a copy of the Echo and tell them to check the jobs page, they are not all homeless.
There's a Big Issue seller permanently outside Ferndown Tescos with a mobile phone about 10 times more expensive than mine .
She's part of a Romanian gang who buy in bulk ''The Big Issue'' and sell them all around dorset, always gets droped off in a big car and lives in a house in Winton...... oh and she's always got a fully charged bluetooth headset for her expensive phone!!!!!!!!
The fat issue seller outside lloyds bank in Bournemouth is Romanian, I asked him.
The little women in sandals and socks (yuk) next to to the railway crossing in Poole high street is Romanian too. Were meant to say, oh dear how sad. I say deport them.
They are doubly keen to become Big Issue salesman as it means they can 'work' for 16 hours which means they are eligible for additional benefits.

There are no flies on 'em.
But you can see where they've been you know
[quote][p][bold]scrumpyjack[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sir Cliff West[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Specialist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]H2o-hara[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saynomore[/bold] wrote: Nobody needs to beg in this country,I stopped feeling sorry for them a few years ago when one pulled out his mobile phone to take a call,just by them a copy of the Echo and tell them to check the jobs page, they are not all homeless.[/p][/quote]There's a Big Issue seller permanently outside Ferndown Tescos with a mobile phone about 10 times more expensive than mine .[/p][/quote]She's part of a Romanian gang who buy in bulk ''The Big Issue'' and sell them all around dorset, always gets droped off in a big car and lives in a house in Winton...... oh and she's always got a fully charged bluetooth headset for her expensive phone!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]The fat issue seller outside lloyds bank in Bournemouth is Romanian, I asked him. The little women in sandals and socks (yuk) next to to the railway crossing in Poole high street is Romanian too. Were meant to say, oh dear how sad. I say deport them.[/p][/quote]They are doubly keen to become Big Issue salesman as it means they can 'work' for 16 hours which means they are eligible for additional benefits. There are no flies on 'em.[/p][/quote]But you can see where they've been you know nickynoodah
  • Score: 1

12:54pm Tue 29 Jul 14

Sweet_Vest says...

I think the Council deserve credit for coming up with this alternative way of supporting people that are actually homeless.

It's good to know that 100% of my money will go to people that are definitely without a roof over their head instead of someone that might not actually be homeless.

This is definitely a subject that needs to be talked about more openly and i'm glad the ball is finally rolling.
I think the Council deserve credit for coming up with this alternative way of supporting people that are actually homeless. It's good to know that 100% of my money will go to people that are definitely without a roof over their head instead of someone that might not actually be homeless. This is definitely a subject that needs to be talked about more openly and i'm glad the ball is finally rolling. Sweet_Vest
  • Score: 2

1:15pm Tue 29 Jul 14

Charly374 says...

There is definitely more than 16 homeless/beggars.
I know a lady who I use to work with she had a full time job a house a car went on holiday and had 2 kids. She would sometimes ago around asking for spare change because she didn't have enough for the bus and she would go home with enough to pay for a night out on the town.
I was stopped in the gardens the other day by a bloke in a suit and tie who was nearly in tears because he didn't have enough money for petrol to get home and he had been stuck in Bournemouth for 5 hours. Hehad a mobile why ddidn't he call friends or family to transfer him some to his account if he was that stuck.
I use to give homeless a cup of tea or coffee from Mc Donalds (in Leicester) because they weren't many of them and it was always the same guy. I'd keep an eye out for him and buy him a happy meal sometimes 2.here in Bournemouth they are all rude and most the time abusive and scare the living **** out of me. They need tobe removed. I struggle day to day to make my wages cover my bills and I don't drive or have a fancy car I struggle just like thousands others and I can't afford to spare change. Most people now just pay on card and don't carry change.
Anyone seen the South park episode with the homeless in it. Someone gave the homeless some money and then the homeless overtook the town begging. That's what happens here the homeless beg because they know they get plenty of money being here. If we stop giving they will go elsewhere.
I've been stopped by just two people walking their dogs and look clean and well dressed and they ask for spare change.
I've seen them pull out their mobile phones 2. There are genuine nice people who are homeless but extremely hard to find when 99.9 percent of them act abusive towards us.
Some of them will have skills and would have had jobs so why can't they work for their money not selling big issue but working in shops or something doing wwork and paying taxes instead of begging.
There is definitely more than 16 homeless/beggars. I know a lady who I use to work with she had a full time job a house a car went on holiday and had 2 kids. She would sometimes ago around asking for spare change because she didn't have enough for the bus and she would go home with enough to pay for a night out on the town. I was stopped in the gardens the other day by a bloke in a suit and tie who was nearly in tears because he didn't have enough money for petrol to get home and he had been stuck in Bournemouth for 5 hours. Hehad a mobile why ddidn't he call friends or family to transfer him some to his account if he was that stuck. I use to give homeless a cup of tea or coffee from Mc Donalds (in Leicester) because they weren't many of them and it was always the same guy. I'd keep an eye out for him and buy him a happy meal sometimes 2.here in Bournemouth they are all rude and most the time abusive and scare the living **** out of me. They need tobe removed. I struggle day to day to make my wages cover my bills and I don't drive or have a fancy car I struggle just like thousands others and I can't afford to spare change. Most people now just pay on card and don't carry change. Anyone seen the South park episode with the homeless in it. Someone gave the homeless some money and then the homeless overtook the town begging. That's what happens here the homeless beg because they know they get plenty of money being here. If we stop giving they will go elsewhere. I've been stopped by just two people walking their dogs and look clean and well dressed and they ask for spare change. I've seen them pull out their mobile phones 2. There are genuine nice people who are homeless but extremely hard to find when 99.9 percent of them act abusive towards us. Some of them will have skills and would have had jobs so why can't they work for their money not selling big issue but working in shops or something doing wwork and paying taxes instead of begging. Charly374
  • Score: 1

1:55pm Tue 29 Jul 14

FerryFan says...

speedy231278 wrote:
The fact that at least one seller is constantly selling at a pitch that was abolished years ago and despite many complaints from locals and even photo evidence they come back with the standard response of 'our sellers would never do that' is all you need to know about the Big Issue. They're just making money off the back of people's blindness to reality. One of the other regular sellers keeps telling everyone he is homeless (against the terms of selling), yet on one occasion I passed him in Tesco while he was carrying a basket with five pounds of spuds and several trays of steak! How can a homeless person cook food, and why would they if they are also trying to raise money for a bed in the night shelter (something else they aren't allowed to say) ?

99.999% of those out on the streets in Bournemouth are professional beggars, and most have been around for donkey's years. They even pass the same few dogs around between their various groups when not on duty to maximise the sympathy vote - how can they afford to buy one if they are skint, and if they are homeless, who is selling them to them on the sly?
If the bloke with the meat amd spuds was the fat Romanian in Old Christchurch road Lloyds, then I've seen him too in Tescos with large trays of mince., so he has somewhere to cook. Always sitting down, too lazy to stand up. Never give him s*d all.

Big Issue is a rubbish magazine for the price anyway, it has literally zilch interest to most, except virtuous office managerial types and old ladies!!
[quote][p][bold]speedy231278[/bold] wrote: The fact that at least one seller is constantly selling at a pitch that was abolished years ago and despite many complaints from locals and even photo evidence they come back with the standard response of 'our sellers would never do that' is all you need to know about the Big Issue. They're just making money off the back of people's blindness to reality. One of the other regular sellers keeps telling everyone he is homeless (against the terms of selling), yet on one occasion I passed him in Tesco while he was carrying a basket with five pounds of spuds and several trays of steak! How can a homeless person cook food, and why would they if they are also trying to raise money for a bed in the night shelter (something else they aren't allowed to say) ? 99.999% of those out on the streets in Bournemouth are professional beggars, and most have been around for donkey's years. They even pass the same few dogs around between their various groups when not on duty to maximise the sympathy vote - how can they afford to buy one if they are skint, and if they are homeless, who is selling them to them on the sly?[/p][/quote]If the bloke with the meat amd spuds was the fat Romanian in Old Christchurch road Lloyds, then I've seen him too in Tescos with large trays of mince., so he has somewhere to cook. Always sitting down, too lazy to stand up. Never give him s*d all. Big Issue is a rubbish magazine for the price anyway, it has literally zilch interest to most, except virtuous office managerial types and old ladies!! FerryFan
  • Score: 2

2:00pm Tue 29 Jul 14

FerryFan says...

Charly374 wrote:
There is definitely more than 16 homeless/beggars.
I know a lady who I use to work with she had a full time job a house a car went on holiday and had 2 kids. She would sometimes ago around asking for spare change because she didn't have enough for the bus and she would go home with enough to pay for a night out on the town.
I was stopped in the gardens the other day by a bloke in a suit and tie who was nearly in tears because he didn't have enough money for petrol to get home and he had been stuck in Bournemouth for 5 hours. Hehad a mobile why ddidn't he call friends or family to transfer him some to his account if he was that stuck.
I use to give homeless a cup of tea or coffee from Mc Donalds (in Leicester) because they weren't many of them and it was always the same guy. I'd keep an eye out for him and buy him a happy meal sometimes 2.here in Bournemouth they are all rude and most the time abusive and scare the living **** out of me. They need tobe removed. I struggle day to day to make my wages cover my bills and I don't drive or have a fancy car I struggle just like thousands others and I can't afford to spare change. Most people now just pay on card and don't carry change.
Anyone seen the South park episode with the homeless in it. Someone gave the homeless some money and then the homeless overtook the town begging. That's what happens here the homeless beg because they know they get plenty of money being here. If we stop giving they will go elsewhere.
I've been stopped by just two people walking their dogs and look clean and well dressed and they ask for spare change.
I've seen them pull out their mobile phones 2. There are genuine nice people who are homeless but extremely hard to find when 99.9 percent of them act abusive towards us.
Some of them will have skills and would have had jobs so why can't they work for their money not selling big issue but working in shops or something doing wwork and paying taxes instead of begging.
The crying bloke in a suit in the gardens - think he's a regular, tried it on with me a few months ago. It is a scam, 99% of the sob stories from strangers in the street like this are scams, just a bit of common sense, say nothing, don't get into conversation, walk on. I have heard countless sob stories over the years - no truck with it.
[quote][p][bold]Charly374[/bold] wrote: There is definitely more than 16 homeless/beggars. I know a lady who I use to work with she had a full time job a house a car went on holiday and had 2 kids. She would sometimes ago around asking for spare change because she didn't have enough for the bus and she would go home with enough to pay for a night out on the town. I was stopped in the gardens the other day by a bloke in a suit and tie who was nearly in tears because he didn't have enough money for petrol to get home and he had been stuck in Bournemouth for 5 hours. Hehad a mobile why ddidn't he call friends or family to transfer him some to his account if he was that stuck. I use to give homeless a cup of tea or coffee from Mc Donalds (in Leicester) because they weren't many of them and it was always the same guy. I'd keep an eye out for him and buy him a happy meal sometimes 2.here in Bournemouth they are all rude and most the time abusive and scare the living **** out of me. They need tobe removed. I struggle day to day to make my wages cover my bills and I don't drive or have a fancy car I struggle just like thousands others and I can't afford to spare change. Most people now just pay on card and don't carry change. Anyone seen the South park episode with the homeless in it. Someone gave the homeless some money and then the homeless overtook the town begging. That's what happens here the homeless beg because they know they get plenty of money being here. If we stop giving they will go elsewhere. I've been stopped by just two people walking their dogs and look clean and well dressed and they ask for spare change. I've seen them pull out their mobile phones 2. There are genuine nice people who are homeless but extremely hard to find when 99.9 percent of them act abusive towards us. Some of them will have skills and would have had jobs so why can't they work for their money not selling big issue but working in shops or something doing wwork and paying taxes instead of begging.[/p][/quote]The crying bloke in a suit in the gardens - think he's a regular, tried it on with me a few months ago. It is a scam, 99% of the sob stories from strangers in the street like this are scams, just a bit of common sense, say nothing, don't get into conversation, walk on. I have heard countless sob stories over the years - no truck with it. FerryFan
  • Score: 1

3:51pm Tue 29 Jul 14

traffic_light says...

I think it's a really useful point that is made by the campaign website that there is a difference between homeless and beggars - and Big Issue sellers aren't beggars, they are working selling a product.

So when they say 16 sleeping rough that's all the people they found who were homeless and sleeping in the street but that is not including beggars because most of those have a house to go to at night, some of them make a point to come out at night with a sleeping bag to get money from people coming out of night clubs/pubs but they aren't homeless at all!

I've definately stopped giving money to people on the streets since I founf that out, I always used to buy them a coffee or give them a few quid but was shocked (and felt really stupid) to find out how things really are.
I think it's a really useful point that is made by the campaign website that there is a difference between homeless and beggars - and Big Issue sellers aren't beggars, they are working selling a product. So when they say 16 sleeping rough that's all the people they found who were homeless and sleeping in the street but that is not including beggars because most of those have a house to go to at night, some of them make a point to come out at night with a sleeping bag to get money from people coming out of night clubs/pubs but they aren't homeless at all! I've definately stopped giving money to people on the streets since I founf that out, I always used to buy them a coffee or give them a few quid but was shocked (and felt really stupid) to find out how things really are. traffic_light
  • Score: 3

10:00pm Tue 29 Jul 14

Maya007 says...

Charly374 wrote:
There is definitely more than 16 homeless/beggars.
I know a lady who I use to work with she had a full time job a house a car went on holiday and had 2 kids. She would sometimes ago around asking for spare change because she didn't have enough for the bus and she would go home with enough to pay for a night out on the town.
I was stopped in the gardens the other day by a bloke in a suit and tie who was nearly in tears because he didn't have enough money for petrol to get home and he had been stuck in Bournemouth for 5 hours. Hehad a mobile why ddidn't he call friends or family to transfer him some to his account if he was that stuck.
I use to give homeless a cup of tea or coffee from Mc Donalds (in Leicester) because they weren't many of them and it was always the same guy. I'd keep an eye out for him and buy him a happy meal sometimes 2.here in Bournemouth they are all rude and most the time abusive and scare the living **** out of me. They need tobe removed. I struggle day to day to make my wages cover my bills and I don't drive or have a fancy car I struggle just like thousands others and I can't afford to spare change. Most people now just pay on card and don't carry change.
Anyone seen the South park episode with the homeless in it. Someone gave the homeless some money and then the homeless overtook the town begging. That's what happens here the homeless beg because they know they get plenty of money being here. If we stop giving they will go elsewhere.
I've been stopped by just two people walking their dogs and look clean and well dressed and they ask for spare change.
I've seen them pull out their mobile phones 2. There are genuine nice people who are homeless but extremely hard to find when 99.9 percent of them act abusive towards us.
Some of them will have skills and would have had jobs so why can't they work for their money not selling big issue but working in shops or something doing wwork and paying taxes instead of begging.
The governments criteria foe homeless and therefore the councils is " no roof over their head"" ie a shop doorway,tent,bus shelter , pier etc etc means they are not homeless.Dont judge them all some are genuine and have had horrendous lives .However DoNot GiveThem Money give them your time and perhaps a cup of tea or a sandwich.Just a smile can really buck them up.Beware giving via test ...it could affect what little benefit they get.
[quote][p][bold]Charly374[/bold] wrote: There is definitely more than 16 homeless/beggars. I know a lady who I use to work with she had a full time job a house a car went on holiday and had 2 kids. She would sometimes ago around asking for spare change because she didn't have enough for the bus and she would go home with enough to pay for a night out on the town. I was stopped in the gardens the other day by a bloke in a suit and tie who was nearly in tears because he didn't have enough money for petrol to get home and he had been stuck in Bournemouth for 5 hours. Hehad a mobile why ddidn't he call friends or family to transfer him some to his account if he was that stuck. I use to give homeless a cup of tea or coffee from Mc Donalds (in Leicester) because they weren't many of them and it was always the same guy. I'd keep an eye out for him and buy him a happy meal sometimes 2.here in Bournemouth they are all rude and most the time abusive and scare the living **** out of me. They need tobe removed. I struggle day to day to make my wages cover my bills and I don't drive or have a fancy car I struggle just like thousands others and I can't afford to spare change. Most people now just pay on card and don't carry change. Anyone seen the South park episode with the homeless in it. Someone gave the homeless some money and then the homeless overtook the town begging. That's what happens here the homeless beg because they know they get plenty of money being here. If we stop giving they will go elsewhere. I've been stopped by just two people walking their dogs and look clean and well dressed and they ask for spare change. I've seen them pull out their mobile phones 2. There are genuine nice people who are homeless but extremely hard to find when 99.9 percent of them act abusive towards us. Some of them will have skills and would have had jobs so why can't they work for their money not selling big issue but working in shops or something doing wwork and paying taxes instead of begging.[/p][/quote]The governments criteria foe homeless and therefore the councils is " no roof over their head"" ie a shop doorway,tent,bus shelter , pier etc etc means they are not homeless.Dont judge them all some are genuine and have had horrendous lives .However DoNot GiveThem Money give them your time and perhaps a cup of tea or a sandwich.Just a smile can really buck them up.Beware giving via test ...it could affect what little benefit they get. Maya007
  • Score: 1

10:31pm Tue 29 Jul 14

stevobath says...

16 rough sleepers?

What a blatant underestimation.
Pathetic.
16 rough sleepers? What a blatant underestimation. Pathetic. stevobath
  • Score: 0

10:33pm Tue 29 Jul 14

stevobath says...

Maya007 wrote:
Charly374 wrote:
There is definitely more than 16 homeless/beggars.
I know a lady who I use to work with she had a full time job a house a car went on holiday and had 2 kids. She would sometimes ago around asking for spare change because she didn't have enough for the bus and she would go home with enough to pay for a night out on the town.
I was stopped in the gardens the other day by a bloke in a suit and tie who was nearly in tears because he didn't have enough money for petrol to get home and he had been stuck in Bournemouth for 5 hours. Hehad a mobile why ddidn't he call friends or family to transfer him some to his account if he was that stuck.
I use to give homeless a cup of tea or coffee from Mc Donalds (in Leicester) because they weren't many of them and it was always the same guy. I'd keep an eye out for him and buy him a happy meal sometimes 2.here in Bournemouth they are all rude and most the time abusive and scare the living **** out of me. They need tobe removed. I struggle day to day to make my wages cover my bills and I don't drive or have a fancy car I struggle just like thousands others and I can't afford to spare change. Most people now just pay on card and don't carry change.
Anyone seen the South park episode with the homeless in it. Someone gave the homeless some money and then the homeless overtook the town begging. That's what happens here the homeless beg because they know they get plenty of money being here. If we stop giving they will go elsewhere.
I've been stopped by just two people walking their dogs and look clean and well dressed and they ask for spare change.
I've seen them pull out their mobile phones 2. There are genuine nice people who are homeless but extremely hard to find when 99.9 percent of them act abusive towards us.
Some of them will have skills and would have had jobs so why can't they work for their money not selling big issue but working in shops or something doing wwork and paying taxes instead of begging.
The governments criteria foe homeless and therefore the councils is " no roof over their head"" ie a shop doorway,tent,bus shelter , pier etc etc means they are not homeless.Dont judge them all some are genuine and have had horrendous lives .However DoNot GiveThem Money give them your time and perhaps a cup of tea or a sandwich.Just a smile can really buck them up.Beware giving via test ...it could affect what little benefit they get.
It doesn't go directly to them.
It goes to a CHARITY.
[quote][p][bold]Maya007[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Charly374[/bold] wrote: There is definitely more than 16 homeless/beggars. I know a lady who I use to work with she had a full time job a house a car went on holiday and had 2 kids. She would sometimes ago around asking for spare change because she didn't have enough for the bus and she would go home with enough to pay for a night out on the town. I was stopped in the gardens the other day by a bloke in a suit and tie who was nearly in tears because he didn't have enough money for petrol to get home and he had been stuck in Bournemouth for 5 hours. Hehad a mobile why ddidn't he call friends or family to transfer him some to his account if he was that stuck. I use to give homeless a cup of tea or coffee from Mc Donalds (in Leicester) because they weren't many of them and it was always the same guy. I'd keep an eye out for him and buy him a happy meal sometimes 2.here in Bournemouth they are all rude and most the time abusive and scare the living **** out of me. They need tobe removed. I struggle day to day to make my wages cover my bills and I don't drive or have a fancy car I struggle just like thousands others and I can't afford to spare change. Most people now just pay on card and don't carry change. Anyone seen the South park episode with the homeless in it. Someone gave the homeless some money and then the homeless overtook the town begging. That's what happens here the homeless beg because they know they get plenty of money being here. If we stop giving they will go elsewhere. I've been stopped by just two people walking their dogs and look clean and well dressed and they ask for spare change. I've seen them pull out their mobile phones 2. There are genuine nice people who are homeless but extremely hard to find when 99.9 percent of them act abusive towards us. Some of them will have skills and would have had jobs so why can't they work for their money not selling big issue but working in shops or something doing wwork and paying taxes instead of begging.[/p][/quote]The governments criteria foe homeless and therefore the councils is " no roof over their head"" ie a shop doorway,tent,bus shelter , pier etc etc means they are not homeless.Dont judge them all some are genuine and have had horrendous lives .However DoNot GiveThem Money give them your time and perhaps a cup of tea or a sandwich.Just a smile can really buck them up.Beware giving via test ...it could affect what little benefit they get.[/p][/quote]It doesn't go directly to them. It goes to a CHARITY. stevobath
  • Score: 1

10:48pm Tue 29 Jul 14

Sweet_Vest says...

BmthNewshound wrote:
Another money making scam from Bournemouth Council. You'd be mad to believe that donations would be ring fenced and used to help the homeless, more likely to be used to fund one of Beesleys pet projects.
.
The real reason the Council don't want people to give money to the homeless is that if begging in Bournemouth offers only slim pickings then the homeless will move elsewhere.
Such an ignorant and poorly thought out post.

The council aren't saying give money to them, they're saying if you're going to give money to people that need it then why not do it responsibly and in a way that actually helps people that are definitely homeless.

Seems to me the whole point of this campaign is to educate people just as yourself who hold little to no grasp of what it is to be homeless and the damage that can be done by giving cash to people on the streets.

No need to respond, sure you're busy spreading more of your enlightened prose.
[quote][p][bold]BmthNewshound[/bold] wrote: Another money making scam from Bournemouth Council. You'd be mad to believe that donations would be ring fenced and used to help the homeless, more likely to be used to fund one of Beesleys pet projects. . The real reason the Council don't want people to give money to the homeless is that if begging in Bournemouth offers only slim pickings then the homeless will move elsewhere.[/p][/quote]Such an ignorant and poorly thought out post. The council aren't saying give money to them, they're saying if you're going to give money to people that need it then why not do it responsibly and in a way that actually helps people that are definitely homeless. Seems to me the whole point of this campaign is to educate people just as yourself who hold little to no grasp of what it is to be homeless and the damage that can be done by giving cash to people on the streets. No need to respond, sure you're busy spreading more of your enlightened prose. Sweet_Vest
  • Score: 0

10:56pm Tue 29 Jul 14

GeorgeW64 says...

I get asked by these spongers for money every time I go out in the evening, It really does get annoying, 20 - 30 years ago I'd have given them a good pasting, I don't even bother replying these days. Filthy beggars, their is no excuse and I totally refuse to support some ones drink and drug upkeep. Fortunately I don't get asked on my way home or they would still get a dam good pasting. Grrrrrrrrrrr
I get asked by these spongers for money every time I go out in the evening, It really does get annoying, 20 - 30 years ago I'd have given them a good pasting, I don't even bother replying these days. Filthy beggars, their is no excuse and I totally refuse to support some ones drink and drug upkeep. Fortunately I don't get asked on my way home or they would still get a dam good pasting. Grrrrrrrrrrr GeorgeW64
  • Score: 0

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