Family of former Bournemouth East MP David Atkinson express shock over ‘secret life’

Former Bournemouth MP’s family express shock over ‘secret life’

OPENING UP: Anthony Atkinson and his mother Sue at her home in Bournemouth

The late David Atkinson

The day of David Atkinson's funeral

Mr Atkinson on the campaign trail in 1992

First published in News by

THE family of former Bournemouth East MP David Atkinson have claimed he led a secret life which included a string of affairs with men.

David Atkinson represented the town for almost three decades until 2005, and was widely regarded as dedicated and hard-working MP.

But more than two years after his death, his wife has spoken about discovering his string of affairs, while his son has claimed he was “predatory and prolific” in his sexual life.

Sue Pilsworth, who was married to the MP for 25 years and lives in Bournemouth, claimed Mr Atkinson had an affair with footballer Justin Fashanu and was HIV positive when he died from cancer aged 71.

The couple divorced in 1992 – something Sue attributes to her discovery that he was leading a secret double life pursuing relationships with men.

Anthony, 37, an illustrator, told the Echo that while they knew of his father’s sexuality, he and his mother had only begun to uncover details of his private life after his death.

He said his father had been “predatory and prolific”, adding: “It was clear from the paperwork we found and the lifestyle he led that yes, those words applied to him.”

Mrs Pilsworth told the Daily Mail at the weekend that she had no inkling of her husband’s homosexuality until 1990, when the footballer Justin Fashanu came out as gay.

She read a newspaper story about the footballer in a dentist’s waiting room and came across the reference to an unnamed, married Conservative MP whom Fashanu had met in a gay bar.

She said she rang her husband in Westminster, who returned home to talk to her and confirmed he was gay.

She said: “I felt utter grief, really. I sat and listened to this man in a suit who had just come from Westminster. I thought about his hypocrisy. I felt disbelief. My mind was in turmoil.”

She claimed Mr Atkinson persuaded her not to divorce him until after the 1992 general election.

Mr Atkinson stood down from Parliament in 2005 and entered into a civil partnership with a man in 2011. He died of bowel cancer in 2012.

At her Bournemouth home yesterday, Mrs Pilsworth said of her ex-husband: “He was probably one of the best constituency MPs Bournemouth East has ever had or will ever have. It’s not about attacking him and we’re very proud of what he did in the constituency.”

Anthony Atkinson spoke to the Daily Telegraph about his father’s sexual behaviour. He said the family had taken their findings about his personal life to the police and were interviewed but that the police did not pursue it.

But he added: “I want to be very clear my dad’s work as an MP was second to none. I would never want anyone to tarnish his reputation as an MP.”

Atkinson – a devoted and diligent politician

DAVID Atkinson represented the town for more than a quarter of a century during which time he built his reputation as a devoted and diligent MP who worked hard for the people of the borough.

Born in Southend, he began his working life working at his father’s car dealership and for a marketing company. He was national chairman of the Young Conservatives and an Essex Councillor before being selected to fight for Bournemouth in a 1977 by-election.

Within his political career he became special rapporteur for Russia as part of his work with the Council of Europe. He also established Christian Solidarity Worldwide, to campaign for the rights of those persecuted for their religious beliefs and was the first backbench British MP to address the United Nations General Assembly.

Among his most notable contributions to the Bournemouth community was securing a £4.5million grant for Hengistbury Head, helping AFC Bournemouth during its financial problems, and his 12-year campaign to restore the town’s railway station. He was also the first MP to raise the Millennium Bug in the House of Commons.

After he stood down from politics he organised a successful campaign for a memorial to those who died when an RAF Halifax bomber crashed in Bournemouth in 1944.

He married Sue Pilsworth in 1968 and they had two children Katie in 1972, and Anthony four years later. The couple divorced in 1992.

He was diagnosed with bowel cancer just before Christmas 2010 and spoke through the pages of the Echo urging others not to ignore the symptoms of the disease which went on to claim his life.

His sexuality was under wraps throughout his political career, though many of those close to him were aware of it, particularly after he entered into a civil partnership in 2011, the year before his death.

His partner Robert Reid spoke at his funeral in January 2012.

‘Joy to work with’

SUPPORTERS of David Atkinson have urged people not to rush to a judgement about the long-serving Bournemouth MP.

They were reacting to the suggestions by Anthony Atkinson that his father’s sexual behaviour had been “predatory and prolific”.

The former MP’s son also said he had contacted Labour MP Tom Watson, who has raised concerns about a paedophile ring around Westminster.

Tobias Ellwood, who succeeded Mr Atkinson as MP for Bournemouth East, said: “Having been made aware of the accusations I would firstly ask why it has taken so long for them to come forward. It should have been raised a long time ago.

“Until something is proved I will continue, as will many in Bournemouth, to view David Atkinson as an excellent, loyal and dedicated MP, who served Bournemouth extremely well.”

Conservative agent Judy Jamieson worked with David Atkinson from 1977. She said: “I have no negativity about David Atkinson at all.

“He was an excellent MP and someone of the highest calibre, It was always a joy and a pleasure to work with him.”

Former Bournemouth councillor and long-time party activist Yvonne Johnstone said: “I really didn’t have any idea and I knew him very well. I knew the family. He kept it hidden very cleverly. I would never have expected such a thing.

“I don’t understand why it’s coming out now two years after he died – I think that’s wrong. I’m suffering from shock, I really am.”

Cllr Sue Anderson said: “I knew David very well and he was a lovely man.

“I did know that he was gay, but he wasn’t breaking the law.

“He was a good MP and in so far as I knew him he was a good man. What he did in his private life really didn’t concern me.”

Cllr Bob Lawton, who didn’t know David Atkinson well, said: “He was a well-respected MP.

“Within the party people feel a little bit sad that this is being said about a man who has been dead a couple of years and has no right of reply.”

Father Denis Blackledge, priest at Corpus Christi Church, Boscombe, conducted Mr Atkinson’s funeral, although he did not know the MP.

He said: “Each of us has almost certainly got secrets in the cupboard and things in our past that we wouldn’t like anybody else to know.

“All persons first of all have a right to his or her good name and it’s our obligation as human beings that if we can’t say anything good, not to say anything at all.”

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8:12pm Mon 21 Jul 14

Jim_Springbourne says...

I'm no fan of the Tory party by any means (to say the least!!), but people with skeletons in the cupboard come from all walks of life and from across the political spectrum. I see no reason why this should be a party political matter. I feel sorry for the family involved.
I'm no fan of the Tory party by any means (to say the least!!), but people with skeletons in the cupboard come from all walks of life and from across the political spectrum. I see no reason why this should be a party political matter. I feel sorry for the family involved. Jim_Springbourne
  • Score: 63

8:23pm Mon 21 Jul 14

Joy Dean says...

I do not understand why these newspaper articles have been published now rather than before the death of David Atkinson. I believe that the media spread rumours about his wife's situation when they divorced; why not about his situation, too, at that time?

I, too, have no negativity about David Atkinson.

I was working as fundraising campaign secretary and community centre secretary, in the Salvation Army's The Place Next Door Community Centre, when I met David Atkinson. He struck me as a genuinely caring person with strong Christian beliefs. He looked and he saw; he heard and he listened; and he put his beliefs into action. When he helped at the ecumenical meal run, not only did he help serve the food but he also took an interest in everyone there, sitting with them and listening to them, too.
I do not understand why these newspaper articles have been published now rather than before the death of David Atkinson. I believe that the media spread rumours about his wife's situation when they divorced; why not about his situation, too, at that time? I, too, have no negativity about David Atkinson. I was working as fundraising campaign secretary and community centre secretary, in the Salvation Army's The Place Next Door Community Centre, when I met David Atkinson. He struck me as a genuinely caring person with strong Christian beliefs. He looked and he saw; he heard and he listened; and he put his beliefs into action. When he helped at the ecumenical meal run, not only did he help serve the food but he also took an interest in everyone there, sitting with them and listening to them, too. Joy Dean
  • Score: 33

8:32pm Mon 21 Jul 14

MaxReturn says...

I would certainly be described as a homophobe and am definitely not a Tory but I want to say this about David Atkinson. When we nearly had our home repossessed Mr Atkinson supported us, we retained our home and subsequently paid off the mortgage early. What ever Mr Atkinson was in his private life detracts nothing from him as a caring effective local MP. We shall ever be indebted to him for what he did to help us. We have retained our home because he helped us. A very fine man indeed. Others will undoubtedly have their takes to tell of how well he served them in his parliamentary office. These matters over his private life should remain there - private.
I would certainly be described as a homophobe and am definitely not a Tory but I want to say this about David Atkinson. When we nearly had our home repossessed Mr Atkinson supported us, we retained our home and subsequently paid off the mortgage early. What ever Mr Atkinson was in his private life detracts nothing from him as a caring effective local MP. We shall ever be indebted to him for what he did to help us. We have retained our home because he helped us. A very fine man indeed. Others will undoubtedly have their takes to tell of how well he served them in his parliamentary office. These matters over his private life should remain there - private. MaxReturn
  • Score: 58

8:55pm Mon 21 Jul 14

twynham says...

Didn't know the guy but some lovely comments above, especially "These matters over his private life should remain there - private."

Why on earth didn't they?
Didn't know the guy but some lovely comments above, especially "These matters over his private life should remain there - private." Why on earth didn't they? twynham
  • Score: 49

9:37pm Mon 21 Jul 14

politicaltrainspotter says...

David, helped our estate when we were suffering from anti-social behaviour and i found him a very decent man who had no 'air's or graces'.He did more than any others who had authority to do something about it.Regardless of the story,i just want to remember him as a very good MP and person.And no i am not a tory but politics isn't the issue here.Let him rest in peace the past is past.
David, helped our estate when we were suffering from anti-social behaviour and i found him a very decent man who had no 'air's or graces'.He did more than any others who had authority to do something about it.Regardless of the story,i just want to remember him as a very good MP and person.And no i am not a tory but politics isn't the issue here.Let him rest in peace the past is past. politicaltrainspotter
  • Score: 42

11:18pm Mon 21 Jul 14

whataboutthat says...

Look the past isn't the past if he was playing a part in something bigger than just being a closet gay. This is what other journalists are suggesting in their (superior) journalism - just google it for heaven's sake. No, I don't mean just the Daily Mail, move on.
I feelo this is a damage limitation exercise to save face - esp on behalf of the son here who suspects thyat the turh wil out - bettre to be pre-emptive than reactive? N'cest pas....,
Look the past isn't the past if he was playing a part in something bigger than just being a closet gay. This is what other journalists are suggesting in their (superior) journalism - just google it for heaven's sake. No, I don't mean just the Daily Mail, move on. I feelo this is a damage limitation exercise to save face - esp on behalf of the son here who suspects thyat the turh wil out - bettre to be pre-emptive than reactive? N'cest pas...., whataboutthat
  • Score: -7

11:26pm Mon 21 Jul 14

whataboutthat says...

I meant truth will out - obviously my typing is off piste at the moment! Meanwhile, the SIGNIFICANT paedo word (and connections with other boy shaggrrrrrrrrs) does not feature beyond a distraction sentence in the Echo whitewash above. In other papers it is very much THRUST in your face or up you JACKSIE - if you get my drift.
p.s. The Toshiba computer has the world's worst keyboard. Think very hard before buying a machine from this manufacturer.
I meant truth will out - obviously my typing is off piste at the moment! Meanwhile, the SIGNIFICANT paedo word (and connections with other boy shaggrrrrrrrrs) does not feature beyond a distraction sentence in the Echo whitewash above. In other papers it is very much THRUST in your face or up you JACKSIE - if you get my drift. p.s. The Toshiba computer has the world's worst keyboard. Think very hard before buying a machine from this manufacturer. whataboutthat
  • Score: -44

2:36am Tue 22 Jul 14

Mike Pickering says...

whataboutthat - I feel it might be somewhat superfluous to add the rejoinder 'If you get my drift', following the phrase 'up your JACKSIE'.
There is nothing so subtle as to remain unsaid and open to misinterpretation with the phrase 'up your JACKSIE' - it's quite plain.

I must add my condolences to the family of Mr Atkinson, for this revelation and associated publicity can do nothing but amplify and extend their grief.
I find it heartwarming that there are so many comments that support the actions of Mr Atkinson, separate from the evidently tumultuous private life that he had. Even a very few years ago there would have been a flurry of ignorant remarks, but we are making progress.
whataboutthat - I feel it might be somewhat superfluous to add the rejoinder 'If you get my drift', following the phrase 'up your JACKSIE'. There is nothing so subtle as to remain unsaid and open to misinterpretation with the phrase 'up your JACKSIE' - it's quite plain. I must add my condolences to the family of Mr Atkinson, for this revelation and associated publicity can do nothing but amplify and extend their grief. I find it heartwarming that there are so many comments that support the actions of Mr Atkinson, separate from the evidently tumultuous private life that he had. Even a very few years ago there would have been a flurry of ignorant remarks, but we are making progress. Mike Pickering
  • Score: 17

6:50am Tue 22 Jul 14

we-shall-see says...

This article sounds like a bitter and twisted ex-wife and son to me. So the man was gay. It's no longer a crime and not really anyone else's business.

Personally, I think the former Mrs. Atkinson needs to get over herself and move on in her life.
This article sounds like a bitter and twisted ex-wife and son to me. So the man was gay. It's no longer a crime and not really anyone else's business. Personally, I think the former Mrs. Atkinson needs to get over herself and move on in her life. we-shall-see
  • Score: 17

7:16am Tue 22 Jul 14

oversee says...

If the Tories win an all out majority...it is liable to be compulsory.
If the Tories win an all out majority...it is liable to be compulsory. oversee
  • Score: -9

7:17am Tue 22 Jul 14

Baysider says...

Why has the Echo article not covered the same ground as the recent one in the Telegraph? This is all very watered down on the suspicions that were raised over the weekend by the family that he was named in the (now missing) Dickens report amongst other allegations. It's almost as if the local Tory party are putting it out there in the best light they can...
Why has the Echo article not covered the same ground as the recent one in the Telegraph? This is all very watered down on the suspicions that were raised over the weekend by the family that he was named in the (now missing) Dickens report amongst other allegations. It's almost as if the local Tory party are putting it out there in the best light they can... Baysider
  • Score: 25

7:18am Tue 22 Jul 14

Lord Spring says...

whataboutthat wrote:
I meant truth will out - obviously my typing is off piste at the moment! Meanwhile, the SIGNIFICANT paedo word (and connections with other boy shaggrrrrrrrrs) does not feature beyond a distraction sentence in the Echo whitewash above. In other papers it is very much THRUST in your face or up you JACKSIE - if you get my drift.
p.s. The Toshiba computer has the world's worst keyboard. Think very hard before buying a machine from this manufacturer.
I thought hard and steered clear of HP, there is an old saying about tools.
[quote][p][bold]whataboutthat[/bold] wrote: I meant truth will out - obviously my typing is off piste at the moment! Meanwhile, the SIGNIFICANT paedo word (and connections with other boy shaggrrrrrrrrs) does not feature beyond a distraction sentence in the Echo whitewash above. In other papers it is very much THRUST in your face or up you JACKSIE - if you get my drift. p.s. The Toshiba computer has the world's worst keyboard. Think very hard before buying a machine from this manufacturer.[/p][/quote]I thought hard and steered clear of HP, there is an old saying about tools. Lord Spring
  • Score: -9

7:37am Tue 22 Jul 14

ben111 says...

I take my hat of to you ECHO I dont think you could get any lower ( Long slow clap )
I take my hat of to you ECHO I dont think you could get any lower ( Long slow clap ) ben111
  • Score: 8

8:20am Tue 22 Jul 14

JoeOrton says...

The son is very sexy and a keen cottage holidaymaker
The son is very sexy and a keen cottage holidaymaker JoeOrton
  • Score: -31

8:34am Tue 22 Jul 14

Controversial But True says...

I think a lot of people found Atkinson to be a pain in the bum. Usually after a couple of drinks!!
I think a lot of people found Atkinson to be a pain in the bum. Usually after a couple of drinks!! Controversial But True
  • Score: -29

8:36am Tue 22 Jul 14

Moro99 says...

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Quite a different story here...
http://www.telegraph .co.uk/news/uknews/c rime/jimmy-savile/10 978492/My-father-was -a-sexual-predator-l ike-Jimmy-Savile-say s-son-of-former-Tory -MP.html Quite a different story here... Moro99
  • Score: 11

8:52am Tue 22 Jul 14

Baysider says...

ben111 wrote:
I take my hat of to you ECHO I dont think you could get any lower ( Long slow clap )
So you don't think the families concerns that he was involved in something sinister, as reported in the national press, are worthy of re-covering in the newspaper covering his constituency then? Let's all just ignore what they actually alleged and the evidence they said supports this and carry on with the tributes to him instead then.
[quote][p][bold]ben111[/bold] wrote: I take my hat of to you ECHO I dont think you could get any lower ( Long slow clap )[/p][/quote]So you don't think the families concerns that he was involved in something sinister, as reported in the national press, are worthy of re-covering in the newspaper covering his constituency then? Let's all just ignore what they actually alleged and the evidence they said supports this and carry on with the tributes to him instead then. Baysider
  • Score: 13

9:06am Tue 22 Jul 14

Townee says...

Must be something in the water at Westminster.
Lots of things will come out in the future when the inquiry is published.
Must be something in the water at Westminster. Lots of things will come out in the future when the inquiry is published. Townee
  • Score: 9

9:07am Tue 22 Jul 14

on-the-sunny-side says...

why are we being told about this? the character assassination of a dead man is appalling and I am not interested.
before I get attacked, no, I have not read the article.
why are we being told about this? the character assassination of a dead man is appalling and I am not interested. before I get attacked, no, I have not read the article. on-the-sunny-side
  • Score: -8

9:11am Tue 22 Jul 14

alasdair1967 says...

The fact of the matter is simple some people are straight some bi sexual others are gay ,as painful as it is for the family as long as what he chose to do was consensual and with persons over the age of consent then dragging up the past won't help matters at all ,however it will be completely different story if child abuse had occurred .
until proven otherwise allow the man to rest in peace
The fact of the matter is simple some people are straight some bi sexual others are gay ,as painful as it is for the family as long as what he chose to do was consensual and with persons over the age of consent then dragging up the past won't help matters at all ,however it will be completely different story if child abuse had occurred . until proven otherwise allow the man to rest in peace alasdair1967
  • Score: 12

9:20am Tue 22 Jul 14

contric says...

and his predecessor john cordle 10 kids with 3 different woman who resigned over the poulson affairand if its not important that atkinson was gay and living a lie why didnt he come out and tell the electorate before they voted for him cordle,atkinson, and now the useless ellwood and still they get in down here
and his predecessor john cordle 10 kids with 3 different woman who resigned over the poulson affairand if its not important that atkinson was gay and living a lie why didnt he come out and tell the electorate before they voted for him cordle,atkinson, and now the useless ellwood and still they get in down here contric
  • Score: 9

9:48am Tue 22 Jul 14

Marty Caine UKIP says...

He may have been a closet gay when that was the norm in this country but he certainly came out when he formed his civil partnership. That certainly never stopped hundreds of people attending his funeral, did it.

I expect this kind of journalism from the tabloid gutter press but not a local paper like the Echo!
He may have been a closet gay when that was the norm in this country but he certainly came out when he formed his civil partnership. That certainly never stopped hundreds of people attending his funeral, did it. I expect this kind of journalism from the tabloid gutter press but not a local paper like the Echo! Marty Caine UKIP
  • Score: -4

9:55am Tue 22 Jul 14

John T says...

So, while Mrs Thatcher was entertaining Jimmy Savile and John Major was having it away with Edwina Currie, David Atkinson was pursuing that other Victorian family value of closet homosexuality.
So, while Mrs Thatcher was entertaining Jimmy Savile and John Major was having it away with Edwina Currie, David Atkinson was pursuing that other Victorian family value of closet homosexuality. John T
  • Score: 19

10:03am Tue 22 Jul 14

Glashen says...

Baysider wrote:
Why has the Echo article not covered the same ground as the recent one in the Telegraph? This is all very watered down on the suspicions that were raised over the weekend by the family that he was named in the (now missing) Dickens report amongst other allegations. It's almost as if the local Tory party are putting it out there in the best light they can...
Possibly because the Telegraph article IMHO is a scurrilous piece of gutter journalism not worthy of the old News of the World, to quote from that article,
,
"There is nothing in the evidence so far gathered by Mr Atkinson that offers any clear proof that his father had had sex with under-age children.
Mr Atkinson did however take his concerns to the police on Mr Watson’s recommendations. Police interviewed his ex-wife as well but decided there was nothing further to investigate."
,
The rest is innuendo and unproven suspicion, it is difficult enough to get to the truth when the perpetrators are still alive I would say impossible when they are dead. Problem is due to the collective blindness concerning jimmy Saville we now in danger of treating suspicion as fact,
[quote][p][bold]Baysider[/bold] wrote: Why has the Echo article not covered the same ground as the recent one in the Telegraph? This is all very watered down on the suspicions that were raised over the weekend by the family that he was named in the (now missing) Dickens report amongst other allegations. It's almost as if the local Tory party are putting it out there in the best light they can...[/p][/quote]Possibly because the Telegraph article IMHO is a scurrilous piece of gutter journalism not worthy of the old News of the World, to quote from that article, , "There is nothing in the evidence so far gathered by Mr Atkinson that offers any clear proof that his father had had sex with under-age children. Mr Atkinson did however take his concerns to the police on Mr Watson’s recommendations. Police interviewed his ex-wife as well but decided there was nothing further to investigate." , The rest is innuendo and unproven suspicion, it is difficult enough to get to the truth when the perpetrators are still alive I would say impossible when they are dead. Problem is due to the collective blindness concerning jimmy Saville we now in danger of treating suspicion as fact, Glashen
  • Score: 3

10:36am Tue 22 Jul 14

disfan says...

WHO CARES????
he was a human being.
He did a job
he was ok at his job
thats really all that matters isnt it?
WHO CARES???? he was a human being. He did a job he was ok at his job thats really all that matters isnt it? disfan
  • Score: -1

10:42am Tue 22 Jul 14

The Infamous Greg says...

I deeply respect the late David Atkinson. He was a decent and honourable man. I couldn't give a **** if he was bi. David was highly professional and always put his constituency first. He did great work behind the Iron Curtain, where he was arrested and interrogated several times by the KGB. It is very sad that his son and former wife have chosen to dishonour his memory, even though he scrupulously avoided embarrassing them during his lifetime. I do not believe that he was "predatory", because I met him dozens of times during the 1980s/90s when I was a good looking young male and he never came on to me once. I was deeply saddened to hear of his passing, and I wish I could shake his hand one last time and say, "Well Done David, I respect you, thankyou for your professionalism and integrity, and for the differences which you have made in peoples' lives". David's reputation remains bright and shining,, but his wife and son should be ashamed of themselves.
I deeply respect the late David Atkinson. He was a decent and honourable man. I couldn't give a **** if he was bi. David was highly professional and always put his constituency first. He did great work behind the Iron Curtain, where he was arrested and interrogated several times by the KGB. It is very sad that his son and former wife have chosen to dishonour his memory, even though he scrupulously avoided embarrassing them during his lifetime. I do not believe that he was "predatory", because I met him dozens of times during the 1980s/90s when I was a good looking young male and he never came on to me once. I was deeply saddened to hear of his passing, and I wish I could shake his hand one last time and say, "Well Done David, I respect you, thankyou for your professionalism and integrity, and for the differences which you have made in peoples' lives". David's reputation remains bright and shining,, but his wife and son should be ashamed of themselves. The Infamous Greg
  • Score: 3

11:06am Tue 22 Jul 14

Glashen says...

Marty Caine UKIP wrote:
He may have been a closet gay when that was the norm in this country but he certainly came out when he formed his civil partnership. That certainly never stopped hundreds of people attending his funeral, did it.

I expect this kind of journalism from the tabloid gutter press but not a local paper like the Echo!
To be fair to the Echo ( must I) there were comments as to why they were not covering this story and even that if they did others would come forward with further allegations. I think the whole thing is a nasty smear campaign on someone who had no choice given the climate about homosexuality at the time but to Keep his sexuality hidden, ( it is remarkable how badly we remember attitudes that were prevalent only a few years ago) but the echo story at least tells the whole story and tries to be fair IMHO
[quote][p][bold]Marty Caine UKIP[/bold] wrote: He may have been a closet gay when that was the norm in this country but he certainly came out when he formed his civil partnership. That certainly never stopped hundreds of people attending his funeral, did it. I expect this kind of journalism from the tabloid gutter press but not a local paper like the Echo![/p][/quote]To be fair to the Echo ( must I) there were comments as to why they were not covering this story and even that if they did others would come forward with further allegations. I think the whole thing is a nasty smear campaign on someone who had no choice given the climate about homosexuality at the time but to Keep his sexuality hidden, ( it is remarkable how badly we remember attitudes that were prevalent only a few years ago) but the echo story at least tells the whole story and tries to be fair IMHO Glashen
  • Score: -6

11:18am Tue 22 Jul 14

pauls55 says...

I am no tory supporter,but using sordid stories of someone's personal life to metaphorically trample on their grave is completely out of order and serves no real purpose.
I am no tory supporter,but using sordid stories of someone's personal life to metaphorically trample on their grave is completely out of order and serves no real purpose. pauls55
  • Score: 6

11:27am Tue 22 Jul 14

BigAlfromsunnyBournemouth says...

A good MP who did a lot for Bournemouth, who really cares if he was homosexual, he was of a generation who routinely concealed homosexuality and let's not forget that until as recently as 1967 homosexual acts between men were deemed illegal.

What should be of greater concern is the large number of professional footballers who conceal their homosexuality because of the widespread homophobia in Association Football.
A good MP who did a lot for Bournemouth, who really cares if he was homosexual, he was of a generation who routinely concealed homosexuality and let's not forget that until as recently as 1967 homosexual acts between men were deemed illegal. What should be of greater concern is the large number of professional footballers who conceal their homosexuality because of the widespread homophobia in Association Football. BigAlfromsunnyBournemouth
  • Score: 5

11:49am Tue 22 Jul 14

Baysider says...

The Infamous Greg wrote:
I deeply respect the late David Atkinson. He was a decent and honourable man. I couldn't give a **** if he was bi. David was highly professional and always put his constituency first. He did great work behind the Iron Curtain, where he was arrested and interrogated several times by the KGB. It is very sad that his son and former wife have chosen to dishonour his memory, even though he scrupulously avoided embarrassing them during his lifetime. I do not believe that he was "predatory", because I met him dozens of times during the 1980s/90s when I was a good looking young male and he never came on to me once. I was deeply saddened to hear of his passing, and I wish I could shake his hand one last time and say, "Well Done David, I respect you, thankyou for your professionalism and integrity, and for the differences which you have made in peoples' lives". David's reputation remains bright and shining,, but his wife and son should be ashamed of themselves.
So it's not okay for those closest to the person concerned to voice their fears and suspicions, given the current climate, but it us okay for you to state that his reputation is beyond question and go on the slate those in a far more informed position than yourself? This is absolutely NOT about him being gay, bi, straight despite the Echo's slant on the weekends disclosures. Like others (although not I expect the average Tory voter at the time and plenty still now) I couldn't give a monkeys what side he batted for. But if this is in any way connected to the recent revelations about paedophile rings operating in Westminster, as the family have alluded to, then it is certainly worthy of proper scrutiny in the Echo and not the 'vanilla' version they are currently running for reasons unknown.
[quote][p][bold]The Infamous Greg[/bold] wrote: I deeply respect the late David Atkinson. He was a decent and honourable man. I couldn't give a **** if he was bi. David was highly professional and always put his constituency first. He did great work behind the Iron Curtain, where he was arrested and interrogated several times by the KGB. It is very sad that his son and former wife have chosen to dishonour his memory, even though he scrupulously avoided embarrassing them during his lifetime. I do not believe that he was "predatory", because I met him dozens of times during the 1980s/90s when I was a good looking young male and he never came on to me once. I was deeply saddened to hear of his passing, and I wish I could shake his hand one last time and say, "Well Done David, I respect you, thankyou for your professionalism and integrity, and for the differences which you have made in peoples' lives". David's reputation remains bright and shining,, but his wife and son should be ashamed of themselves.[/p][/quote]So it's not okay for those closest to the person concerned to voice their fears and suspicions, given the current climate, but it us okay for you to state that his reputation is beyond question and go on the slate those in a far more informed position than yourself? This is absolutely NOT about him being gay, bi, straight despite the Echo's slant on the weekends disclosures. Like others (although not I expect the average Tory voter at the time and plenty still now) I couldn't give a monkeys what side he batted for. But if this is in any way connected to the recent revelations about paedophile rings operating in Westminster, as the family have alluded to, then it is certainly worthy of proper scrutiny in the Echo and not the 'vanilla' version they are currently running for reasons unknown. Baysider
  • Score: 21

11:58am Tue 22 Jul 14

Mejulie1967 says...

What a truly decent ex wife and wonderful son he has. They have risen above the devastation and revelation and still support his work in an admirable and honest manner. I am sure this has come to light now as the investigations get underway and they wanted to be honest, open and truthful as they are associated with it, by blood and still have to live in the community.
What a truly decent ex wife and wonderful son he has. They have risen above the devastation and revelation and still support his work in an admirable and honest manner. I am sure this has come to light now as the investigations get underway and they wanted to be honest, open and truthful as they are associated with it, by blood and still have to live in the community. Mejulie1967
  • Score: 10

12:11pm Tue 22 Jul 14

DemonDiva says...

Marty Caine UKIP wrote:
He may have been a closet gay when that was the norm in this country but he certainly came out when he formed his civil partnership. That certainly never stopped hundreds of people attending his funeral, did it.

I expect this kind of journalism from the tabloid gutter press but not a local paper like the Echo!
Miss Marty Caine - your naivete worries me greatly.
[quote][p][bold]Marty Caine UKIP[/bold] wrote: He may have been a closet gay when that was the norm in this country but he certainly came out when he formed his civil partnership. That certainly never stopped hundreds of people attending his funeral, did it. I expect this kind of journalism from the tabloid gutter press but not a local paper like the Echo![/p][/quote]Miss Marty Caine - your naivete worries me greatly. DemonDiva
  • Score: 8

12:16pm Tue 22 Jul 14

muscliffman says...

Some commentators appear to have completely missed significance of this one short paragraph; "Anthony Atkinson spoke to the Daily Telegraph about his father’s sexual behaviour. He said the family had taken their findings about his personal life to the police and were interviewed but that the police did not pursue it." The Telegraph and other media do expand upon this.

These days however immoral the circumstances and regardless of who it privately hurts consensual sexual activity between adults of the opposite or same sex is simply NOT a matter close family would normally take to the Police. I suggest those heaping praise upon the person they already only thought they knew take off their rose coloured glasses and prepare for the possibility of a lot worse than an outed two-timing homosexual to come.
Some commentators appear to have completely missed significance of this one short paragraph; "Anthony Atkinson spoke to the Daily Telegraph about his father’s sexual behaviour. He said the family had taken their findings about his personal life to the police and were interviewed but that the police did not pursue it." The Telegraph and other media do expand upon this. These days however immoral the circumstances and regardless of who it privately hurts consensual sexual activity between adults of the opposite or same sex is simply NOT a matter close family would normally take to the Police. I suggest those heaping praise upon the person they already only thought they knew take off their rose coloured glasses and prepare for the possibility of a lot worse than an outed two-timing homosexual to come. muscliffman
  • Score: 16

12:25pm Tue 22 Jul 14

JoeOrton says...

The wife and son are happy to live in health and wealth as well as having a comfortable life all provided for by the late gentleman!
The wife and son are happy to live in health and wealth as well as having a comfortable life all provided for by the late gentleman! JoeOrton
  • Score: 0

12:37pm Tue 22 Jul 14

pete woodley says...

Baysider wrote:
The Infamous Greg wrote:
I deeply respect the late David Atkinson. He was a decent and honourable man. I couldn't give a **** if he was bi. David was highly professional and always put his constituency first. He did great work behind the Iron Curtain, where he was arrested and interrogated several times by the KGB. It is very sad that his son and former wife have chosen to dishonour his memory, even though he scrupulously avoided embarrassing them during his lifetime. I do not believe that he was "predatory", because I met him dozens of times during the 1980s/90s when I was a good looking young male and he never came on to me once. I was deeply saddened to hear of his passing, and I wish I could shake his hand one last time and say, "Well Done David, I respect you, thankyou for your professionalism and integrity, and for the differences which you have made in peoples' lives". David's reputation remains bright and shining,, but his wife and son should be ashamed of themselves.
So it's not okay for those closest to the person concerned to voice their fears and suspicions, given the current climate, but it us okay for you to state that his reputation is beyond question and go on the slate those in a far more informed position than yourself? This is absolutely NOT about him being gay, bi, straight despite the Echo's slant on the weekends disclosures. Like others (although not I expect the average Tory voter at the time and plenty still now) I couldn't give a monkeys what side he batted for. But if this is in any way connected to the recent revelations about paedophile rings operating in Westminster, as the family have alluded to, then it is certainly worthy of proper scrutiny in the Echo and not the 'vanilla' version they are currently running for reasons unknown.
Have to agree with this comment,i too thought David was a good MP,but as Baysider says if there are other matters,then they should come out in public,and not be hid by the establishment.
[quote][p][bold]Baysider[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Infamous Greg[/bold] wrote: I deeply respect the late David Atkinson. He was a decent and honourable man. I couldn't give a **** if he was bi. David was highly professional and always put his constituency first. He did great work behind the Iron Curtain, where he was arrested and interrogated several times by the KGB. It is very sad that his son and former wife have chosen to dishonour his memory, even though he scrupulously avoided embarrassing them during his lifetime. I do not believe that he was "predatory", because I met him dozens of times during the 1980s/90s when I was a good looking young male and he never came on to me once. I was deeply saddened to hear of his passing, and I wish I could shake his hand one last time and say, "Well Done David, I respect you, thankyou for your professionalism and integrity, and for the differences which you have made in peoples' lives". David's reputation remains bright and shining,, but his wife and son should be ashamed of themselves.[/p][/quote]So it's not okay for those closest to the person concerned to voice their fears and suspicions, given the current climate, but it us okay for you to state that his reputation is beyond question and go on the slate those in a far more informed position than yourself? This is absolutely NOT about him being gay, bi, straight despite the Echo's slant on the weekends disclosures. Like others (although not I expect the average Tory voter at the time and plenty still now) I couldn't give a monkeys what side he batted for. But if this is in any way connected to the recent revelations about paedophile rings operating in Westminster, as the family have alluded to, then it is certainly worthy of proper scrutiny in the Echo and not the 'vanilla' version they are currently running for reasons unknown.[/p][/quote]Have to agree with this comment,i too thought David was a good MP,but as Baysider says if there are other matters,then they should come out in public,and not be hid by the establishment. pete woodley
  • Score: 14

1:21pm Tue 22 Jul 14

Minty Fresh says...

Seriously? Who cares?
Seriously? Who cares? Minty Fresh
  • Score: -5

1:27pm Tue 22 Jul 14

Joy Dean says...

Joy Dean wrote:
I do not understand why these newspaper articles have been published now rather than before the death of David Atkinson. I believe that the media spread rumours about his wife's situation when they divorced; why not about his situation, too, at that time?

I, too, have no negativity about David Atkinson.

I was working as fundraising campaign secretary and community centre secretary, in the Salvation Army's The Place Next Door Community Centre, when I met David Atkinson. He struck me as a genuinely caring person with strong Christian beliefs. He looked and he saw; he heard and he listened; and he put his beliefs into action. When he helped at the ecumenical meal run, not only did he help serve the food but he also took an interest in everyone there, sitting with them and listening to them, too.
David and Sue Atkinson divorced 22 years ago in 1992. David died two years ago.
According to The Independent http://www.independe
nt.ie/world-news/eur
ope/my-dad-was-a-pre
dator-like-savile-cl
aims-tory-mps-son-30
446373.html "Mr Atkinson (37), an illustrator, decided to speak out after becoming increasingly concerned about his father's behaviour."
I still do not understand why allegations are being published now instead of years ago.
[quote][p][bold]Joy Dean[/bold] wrote: I do not understand why these newspaper articles have been published now rather than before the death of David Atkinson. I believe that the media spread rumours about his wife's situation when they divorced; why not about his situation, too, at that time? I, too, have no negativity about David Atkinson. I was working as fundraising campaign secretary and community centre secretary, in the Salvation Army's The Place Next Door Community Centre, when I met David Atkinson. He struck me as a genuinely caring person with strong Christian beliefs. He looked and he saw; he heard and he listened; and he put his beliefs into action. When he helped at the ecumenical meal run, not only did he help serve the food but he also took an interest in everyone there, sitting with them and listening to them, too.[/p][/quote]David and Sue Atkinson divorced 22 years ago in 1992. David died two years ago. According to The Independent http://www.independe nt.ie/world-news/eur ope/my-dad-was-a-pre dator-like-savile-cl aims-tory-mps-son-30 446373.html "Mr Atkinson (37), an illustrator, decided to speak out after becoming increasingly concerned about his father's behaviour." I still do not understand why allegations are being published now instead of years ago. Joy Dean
  • Score: 3

2:01pm Tue 22 Jul 14

Baysider says...

Joy Dean wrote:
Joy Dean wrote:
I do not understand why these newspaper articles have been published now rather than before the death of David Atkinson. I believe that the media spread rumours about his wife's situation when they divorced; why not about his situation, too, at that time?

I, too, have no negativity about David Atkinson.

I was working as fundraising campaign secretary and community centre secretary, in the Salvation Army's The Place Next Door Community Centre, when I met David Atkinson. He struck me as a genuinely caring person with strong Christian beliefs. He looked and he saw; he heard and he listened; and he put his beliefs into action. When he helped at the ecumenical meal run, not only did he help serve the food but he also took an interest in everyone there, sitting with them and listening to them, too.
David and Sue Atkinson divorced 22 years ago in 1992. David died two years ago.
According to The Independent http://www.independe

nt.ie/world-news/eur

ope/my-dad-was-a-pre

dator-like-savile-cl

aims-tory-mps-son-30

446373.html "Mr Atkinson (37), an illustrator, decided to speak out after becoming increasingly concerned about his father's behaviour."
I still do not understand why allegations are being published now instead of years ago.
Context and climate.
[quote][p][bold]Joy Dean[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Joy Dean[/bold] wrote: I do not understand why these newspaper articles have been published now rather than before the death of David Atkinson. I believe that the media spread rumours about his wife's situation when they divorced; why not about his situation, too, at that time? I, too, have no negativity about David Atkinson. I was working as fundraising campaign secretary and community centre secretary, in the Salvation Army's The Place Next Door Community Centre, when I met David Atkinson. He struck me as a genuinely caring person with strong Christian beliefs. He looked and he saw; he heard and he listened; and he put his beliefs into action. When he helped at the ecumenical meal run, not only did he help serve the food but he also took an interest in everyone there, sitting with them and listening to them, too.[/p][/quote]David and Sue Atkinson divorced 22 years ago in 1992. David died two years ago. According to The Independent http://www.independe nt.ie/world-news/eur ope/my-dad-was-a-pre dator-like-savile-cl aims-tory-mps-son-30 446373.html "Mr Atkinson (37), an illustrator, decided to speak out after becoming increasingly concerned about his father's behaviour." I still do not understand why allegations are being published now instead of years ago.[/p][/quote]Context and climate. Baysider
  • Score: 3

2:20pm Tue 22 Jul 14

bmthlad says...

The last line from the priesthood sums up their whole attitude to sweeping things under the carpet!
The last line from the priesthood sums up their whole attitude to sweeping things under the carpet! bmthlad
  • Score: 2

3:28pm Tue 22 Jul 14

Glashen says...

The thing is, this is all third hand, ok if a victim comes forward that is a different matter and why I wouldn't condemn the Echo for publishing the story, but at present we just have some contentious statements from the son who may have issues with his Father still unreconciled despite his Fathers death. The infamous dossier wasn't regarded as evidence that prosecutions could be proceeded upon at the time and now every man and his dog his filling the blanks in. Since David Atkinson was forced to live a lie it is easy to fill these blanks in with all sorts of supposition but so far nothing even close to proof, but of course truth isn't brilliant for selling newspapers, scurrilous gossip especially when there is no risk of being sued is much better.
The thing is, this is all third hand, ok if a victim comes forward that is a different matter and why I wouldn't condemn the Echo for publishing the story, but at present we just have some contentious statements from the son who may have issues with his Father still unreconciled despite his Fathers death. The infamous dossier wasn't regarded as evidence that prosecutions could be proceeded upon at the time and now every man and his dog his filling the blanks in. Since David Atkinson was forced to live a lie it is easy to fill these blanks in with all sorts of supposition but so far nothing even close to proof, but of course truth isn't brilliant for selling newspapers, scurrilous gossip especially when there is no risk of being sued is much better. Glashen
  • Score: -8

3:36pm Tue 22 Jul 14

martinsim34 says...

they mentioned a pedo ring in westminster wat about down here there was one operating from 70s to 80s in poole bournemouth
u only go to go to use a public toilets its written all over walls is that y councils r closing them.
they mentioned a pedo ring in westminster wat about down here there was one operating from 70s to 80s in poole bournemouth u only go to go to use a public toilets its written all over walls is that y councils r closing them. martinsim34
  • Score: -3

4:11pm Tue 22 Jul 14

muscliffman says...

Glashen wrote:
The thing is, this is all third hand, ok if a victim comes forward that is a different matter and why I wouldn't condemn the Echo for publishing the story, but at present we just have some contentious statements from the son who may have issues with his Father still unreconciled despite his Fathers death. The infamous dossier wasn't regarded as evidence that prosecutions could be proceeded upon at the time and now every man and his dog his filling the blanks in. Since David Atkinson was forced to live a lie it is easy to fill these blanks in with all sorts of supposition but so far nothing even close to proof, but of course truth isn't brilliant for selling newspapers, scurrilous gossip especially when there is no risk of being sued is much better.
Please could you explain this odd statement "Since David Atkinson was forced to live a lie " I would be very interested to know who was forcing him to deceive his voters, constituents and of course even his own family about who he really was.
[quote][p][bold]Glashen[/bold] wrote: The thing is, this is all third hand, ok if a victim comes forward that is a different matter and why I wouldn't condemn the Echo for publishing the story, but at present we just have some contentious statements from the son who may have issues with his Father still unreconciled despite his Fathers death. The infamous dossier wasn't regarded as evidence that prosecutions could be proceeded upon at the time and now every man and his dog his filling the blanks in. Since David Atkinson was forced to live a lie it is easy to fill these blanks in with all sorts of supposition but so far nothing even close to proof, but of course truth isn't brilliant for selling newspapers, scurrilous gossip especially when there is no risk of being sued is much better.[/p][/quote]Please could you explain this odd statement "Since David Atkinson was forced to live a lie " I would be very interested to know who was forcing him to deceive his voters, constituents and of course even his own family about who he really was. muscliffman
  • Score: 2

4:53pm Tue 22 Jul 14

jxwdco says...

his family reported his behaviour to the police... this is obviously not just about being homosexual... because this is legal!...this means that it is very relevant to his politics and should very much be made public knowledge!... i cant believe people still defend sexual predators... people who defend these kinds of people are part of the problem...
his family reported his behaviour to the police... this is obviously not just about being homosexual... because this is legal!...this means that it is very relevant to his politics and should very much be made public knowledge!... i cant believe people still defend sexual predators... people who defend these kinds of people are part of the problem... jxwdco
  • Score: 7

5:00pm Tue 22 Jul 14

Bob49 says...

we-shall-see wrote:
This article sounds like a bitter and twisted ex-wife and son to me. So the man was gay. It's no longer a crime and not really anyone else's business.

Personally, I think the former Mrs. Atkinson needs to get over herself and move on in her life.
I would suggest you read the allegations posted elsewhere in the media which like him to the current claims and investigations into pedophiles at Westminister.

Iif there is and was nothing wrong with being gay why did this man spend so much time trying to hide the fact ? And does that not smack of misrepresentation when seeking votes ?

It also raises the question that if he was so dead set on hiding this fact, was he open to blackmail or coercion - obeying the whips I believe it is called in Parliamen ? if so then whose interests was he repreresenting in Parliament.

In that light IT IS other people's interest - most notably voters and taxpayers.
[quote][p][bold]we-shall-see[/bold] wrote: This article sounds like a bitter and twisted ex-wife and son to me. So the man was gay. It's no longer a crime and not really anyone else's business. Personally, I think the former Mrs. Atkinson needs to get over herself and move on in her life.[/p][/quote]I would suggest you read the allegations posted elsewhere in the media which like him to the current claims and investigations into pedophiles at Westminister. Iif there is and was nothing wrong with being gay why did this man spend so much time trying to hide the fact ? And does that not smack of misrepresentation when seeking votes ? It also raises the question that if he was so dead set on hiding this fact, was he open to blackmail or coercion - obeying the whips I believe it is called in Parliamen ? if so then whose interests was he repreresenting in Parliament. In that light IT IS other people's interest - most notably voters and taxpayers. Bob49
  • Score: 7

5:30pm Tue 22 Jul 14

Liz F ret says...

I am so sorry that the family are having to go through all of this. I knew Sue and David in the sixties in Essex and in fact went to their wedding and they came to mine. I wasn't that keen on David as he could be a bit smarmy but Sue was delightful and I was sorry about losing contact with her as was my husband who is now dead.

She must feel; very let down and I don't blame her or her son Anthoney for letting everyone know. I wish her and her family all the best and that the next years will be happier for them. Liz F
I am so sorry that the family are having to go through all of this. I knew Sue and David in the sixties in Essex and in fact went to their wedding and they came to mine. I wasn't that keen on David as he could be a bit smarmy but Sue was delightful and I was sorry about losing contact with her as was my husband who is now dead. She must feel; very let down and I don't blame her or her son Anthoney for letting everyone know. I wish her and her family all the best and that the next years will be happier for them. Liz F Liz F ret
  • Score: 2

5:53pm Tue 22 Jul 14

s-pb2 says...

Why is his sexuality a shock? Thought it was common knowledge 20 years ago.
Why is his sexuality a shock? Thought it was common knowledge 20 years ago. s-pb2
  • Score: 3

6:23pm Tue 22 Jul 14

pete woodley says...

Baysider wrote:
The Infamous Greg wrote:
I deeply respect the late David Atkinson. He was a decent and honourable man. I couldn't give a **** if he was bi. David was highly professional and always put his constituency first. He did great work behind the Iron Curtain, where he was arrested and interrogated several times by the KGB. It is very sad that his son and former wife have chosen to dishonour his memory, even though he scrupulously avoided embarrassing them during his lifetime. I do not believe that he was "predatory", because I met him dozens of times during the 1980s/90s when I was a good looking young male and he never came on to me once. I was deeply saddened to hear of his passing, and I wish I could shake his hand one last time and say, "Well Done David, I respect you, thankyou for your professionalism and integrity, and for the differences which you have made in peoples' lives". David's reputation remains bright and shining,, but his wife and son should be ashamed of themselves.
So it's not okay for those closest to the person concerned to voice their fears and suspicions, given the current climate, but it us okay for you to state that his reputation is beyond question and go on the slate those in a far more informed position than yourself? This is absolutely NOT about him being gay, bi, straight despite the Echo's slant on the weekends disclosures. Like others (although not I expect the average Tory voter at the time and plenty still now) I couldn't give a monkeys what side he batted for. But if this is in any way connected to the recent revelations about paedophile rings operating in Westminster, as the family have alluded to, then it is certainly worthy of proper scrutiny in the Echo and not the 'vanilla' version they are currently running for reasons unknown.
Have to agree with this comment,i too thought David was a good MP,but as Baysider says if there are other matters,then they should come out in public,and not be hid by the establishment.
[quote][p][bold]Baysider[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Infamous Greg[/bold] wrote: I deeply respect the late David Atkinson. He was a decent and honourable man. I couldn't give a **** if he was bi. David was highly professional and always put his constituency first. He did great work behind the Iron Curtain, where he was arrested and interrogated several times by the KGB. It is very sad that his son and former wife have chosen to dishonour his memory, even though he scrupulously avoided embarrassing them during his lifetime. I do not believe that he was "predatory", because I met him dozens of times during the 1980s/90s when I was a good looking young male and he never came on to me once. I was deeply saddened to hear of his passing, and I wish I could shake his hand one last time and say, "Well Done David, I respect you, thankyou for your professionalism and integrity, and for the differences which you have made in peoples' lives". David's reputation remains bright and shining,, but his wife and son should be ashamed of themselves.[/p][/quote]So it's not okay for those closest to the person concerned to voice their fears and suspicions, given the current climate, but it us okay for you to state that his reputation is beyond question and go on the slate those in a far more informed position than yourself? This is absolutely NOT about him being gay, bi, straight despite the Echo's slant on the weekends disclosures. Like others (although not I expect the average Tory voter at the time and plenty still now) I couldn't give a monkeys what side he batted for. But if this is in any way connected to the recent revelations about paedophile rings operating in Westminster, as the family have alluded to, then it is certainly worthy of proper scrutiny in the Echo and not the 'vanilla' version they are currently running for reasons unknown.[/p][/quote]Have to agree with this comment,i too thought David was a good MP,but as Baysider says if there are other matters,then they should come out in public,and not be hid by the establishment. pete woodley
  • Score: 4

6:33pm Tue 22 Jul 14

Huey says...

Urgggh he sickens me
Urgggh he sickens me Huey
  • Score: 2

6:39pm Tue 22 Jul 14

Michael Pickles says...

Why is it that many people putting themselves up for election keep their sexuality a secret from the electorate? Could it be that they a reasonably sure that if their secret was known, then they wouldn't get elected? How can the voter be able to make an informed decision as to how they should vote when the candidate keeps important facts about themselves from them? Why are the electorate treated like mushrooms (kept in the dark and fed on bull----)?
If the rumours are right, there's so many l.b.g.t. MPs that its no wonder all this pro homosexual legislation is getting voted through in Parliament and put into law.
It should be the law that all personal information about a prospective Parliamentary candidate seeking election must disclose be disclosed. I suspect that this man's election publicity stated that he was a long-standing happily married family man with two children, bla bla bla . . .
Give the voters the truth and then see if you get elected.
Why is it that many people putting themselves up for election keep their sexuality a secret from the electorate? Could it be that they a reasonably sure that if their secret was known, then they wouldn't get elected? How can the voter be able to make an informed decision as to how they should vote when the candidate keeps important facts about themselves from them? Why are the electorate treated like mushrooms (kept in the dark and fed on bull----)? If the rumours are right, there's so many l.b.g.t. MPs that its no wonder all this pro homosexual legislation is getting voted through in Parliament and put into law. It should be the law that all personal information about a prospective Parliamentary candidate seeking election must disclose be disclosed. I suspect that this man's election publicity stated that he was a long-standing happily married family man with two children, bla bla bla . . . Give the voters the truth and then see if you get elected. Michael Pickles
  • Score: 3

6:48pm Tue 22 Jul 14

BigAlfromsunnyBournemouth says...

Michael Pickles says...Give the voters the truth and then see if you get elected.

The simple truth is that you could put a straw filled scarecrow wearing a blue rosette up for election to Parliament and it would get elected in Bournemouth.
Michael Pickles says...Give the voters the truth and then see if you get elected. The simple truth is that you could put a straw filled scarecrow wearing a blue rosette up for election to Parliament and it would get elected in Bournemouth. BigAlfromsunnyBournemouth
  • Score: 4

7:02pm Tue 22 Jul 14

holdinkæft says...

we-shall-see wrote:
This article sounds like a bitter and twisted ex-wife and son to me. So the man was gay. It's no longer a crime and not really anyone else's business.

Personally, I think the former Mrs. Atkinson needs to get over herself and move on in her life.
Anthony Atkinson spoke to the Daily Telegraph about his father’s sexual behaviour. He said the family had taken their findings about his personal life to the police and were interviewed but that the police did not pursue it.

But he added: “I want to be very clear my dad’s work as an MP was second to none. I would never want anyone to tarnish his reputation as an MP.”

But as a father you would?
WOW
[quote][p][bold]we-shall-see[/bold] wrote: This article sounds like a bitter and twisted ex-wife and son to me. So the man was gay. It's no longer a crime and not really anyone else's business. Personally, I think the former Mrs. Atkinson needs to get over herself and move on in her life.[/p][/quote]Anthony Atkinson spoke to the Daily Telegraph about his father’s sexual behaviour. He said the family had taken their findings about his personal life to the police and were interviewed but that the police did not pursue it. But he added: “I want to be very clear my dad’s work as an MP was second to none. I would never want anyone to tarnish his reputation as an MP.” But as a father you would? WOW holdinkæft
  • Score: 1

7:14pm Tue 22 Jul 14

Bob49 says...

s-pb2 wrote:
Why is his sexuality a shock? Thought it was common knowledge 20 years ago.
eh ?

nobody is

it is the revelations and claims elsewhere that are the cause for concern

why not check those ?
[quote][p][bold]s-pb2[/bold] wrote: Why is his sexuality a shock? Thought it was common knowledge 20 years ago.[/p][/quote]eh ? nobody is it is the revelations and claims elsewhere that are the cause for concern why not check those ? Bob49
  • Score: 6

8:00pm Tue 22 Jul 14

chelsea53 says...

Reading between the lines on this. Word predatory used. I think there may be more to come about this than him being gay. Also family have stated they have spoken to the police. No-one speaks to the police because their ex or father is gay.
Reading between the lines on this. Word predatory used. I think there may be more to come about this than him being gay. Also family have stated they have spoken to the police. No-one speaks to the police because their ex or father is gay. chelsea53
  • Score: 7

8:09pm Tue 22 Jul 14

Bob49 says...

there is more

pretty much over much of the rest of the media

why not have a look ?
there is more pretty much over much of the rest of the media why not have a look ? Bob49
  • Score: 8

12:07am Wed 23 Jul 14

Glashen says...

muscliffman wrote:
Glashen wrote:
The thing is, this is all third hand, ok if a victim comes forward that is a different matter and why I wouldn't condemn the Echo for publishing the story, but at present we just have some contentious statements from the son who may have issues with his Father still unreconciled despite his Fathers death. The infamous dossier wasn't regarded as evidence that prosecutions could be proceeded upon at the time and now every man and his dog his filling the blanks in. Since David Atkinson was forced to live a lie it is easy to fill these blanks in with all sorts of supposition but so far nothing even close to proof, but of course truth isn't brilliant for selling newspapers, scurrilous gossip especially when there is no risk of being sued is much better.
Please could you explain this odd statement "Since David Atkinson was forced to live a lie " I would be very interested to know who was forcing him to deceive his voters, constituents and of course even his own family about who he really was.
You clearly don't remember the 70s and 80s, he would not have been elected as an mp if he had been open as a homosexual, you might argue therefore he shouldn't have been elected but today we do elect gay mp's that isn't down to the law it is down to a change in attitude, so logically either we are wrong to be more accepting of difference today or he was right to hide his sexuality.
[quote][p][bold]muscliffman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Glashen[/bold] wrote: The thing is, this is all third hand, ok if a victim comes forward that is a different matter and why I wouldn't condemn the Echo for publishing the story, but at present we just have some contentious statements from the son who may have issues with his Father still unreconciled despite his Fathers death. The infamous dossier wasn't regarded as evidence that prosecutions could be proceeded upon at the time and now every man and his dog his filling the blanks in. Since David Atkinson was forced to live a lie it is easy to fill these blanks in with all sorts of supposition but so far nothing even close to proof, but of course truth isn't brilliant for selling newspapers, scurrilous gossip especially when there is no risk of being sued is much better.[/p][/quote]Please could you explain this odd statement "Since David Atkinson was forced to live a lie " I would be very interested to know who was forcing him to deceive his voters, constituents and of course even his own family about who he really was.[/p][/quote]You clearly don't remember the 70s and 80s, he would not have been elected as an mp if he had been open as a homosexual, you might argue therefore he shouldn't have been elected but today we do elect gay mp's that isn't down to the law it is down to a change in attitude, so logically either we are wrong to be more accepting of difference today or he was right to hide his sexuality. Glashen
  • Score: 1

1:17am Wed 23 Jul 14

Bob49 says...

or in the real world he would not have been selected as a tory candidate

so what was more important to him honesty or being an MP ?

because part of that change in attitude was honesty, folk willing to 'stand up and be counted' - and part of what held that change in attitude was deceit, even to voting for anti homosexual legislation (Clause 28)

so please spare us the warped logic - he was a hypocrite with it seems other reasons for not being honest about his 'other' life
or in the real world he would not have been selected as a tory candidate so what was more important to him honesty or being an MP ? because part of that change in attitude was honesty, folk willing to 'stand up and be counted' - and part of what held that change in attitude was deceit, even to voting for anti homosexual legislation (Clause 28) so please spare us the warped logic - he was a hypocrite with it seems other reasons for not being honest about his 'other' life Bob49
  • Score: 6

8:51am Wed 23 Jul 14

Glashen says...

Bob49 wrote:
or in the real world he would not have been selected as a tory candidate

so what was more important to him honesty or being an MP ?

because part of that change in attitude was honesty, folk willing to 'stand up and be counted' - and part of what held that change in attitude was deceit, even to voting for anti homosexual legislation (Clause 28)

so please spare us the warped logic - he was a hypocrite with it seems other reasons for not being honest about his 'other' life
Being a MP apparently, so yes he was a hypocrite, but that is not illegal indeed it is almost obligatory for a politician, it would be good if it wasn't but not in this world today and even less so 30 years ago. but you jump to the conclusion that he had "other"reasons for hiding his homosexuality, no actual evidence of that only continuing innuendo and dark hints which you are joining in on. If anything concrete and illegal comes forward I will condemn him but in the meantime he deserves the assumption of innocence that everyone is entitled to.
[quote][p][bold]Bob49[/bold] wrote: or in the real world he would not have been selected as a tory candidate so what was more important to him honesty or being an MP ? because part of that change in attitude was honesty, folk willing to 'stand up and be counted' - and part of what held that change in attitude was deceit, even to voting for anti homosexual legislation (Clause 28) so please spare us the warped logic - he was a hypocrite with it seems other reasons for not being honest about his 'other' life[/p][/quote]Being a MP apparently, so yes he was a hypocrite, but that is not illegal indeed it is almost obligatory for a politician, it would be good if it wasn't but not in this world today and even less so 30 years ago. but you jump to the conclusion that he had "other"reasons for hiding his homosexuality, no actual evidence of that only continuing innuendo and dark hints which you are joining in on. If anything concrete and illegal comes forward I will condemn him but in the meantime he deserves the assumption of innocence that everyone is entitled to. Glashen
  • Score: -4

5:53pm Wed 23 Jul 14

s-pb2 says...

Bob49 wrote:
s-pb2 wrote:
Why is his sexuality a shock? Thought it was common knowledge 20 years ago.
eh ?

nobody is

it is the revelations and claims elsewhere that are the cause for concern

why not check those ?
I know you, your that Ted Rogers from 3-2-1 ! Talking in riddles and never making any sense. Im glad he didnt do any charity work, then Atkinson would have really got your wrath!
[quote][p][bold]Bob49[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]s-pb2[/bold] wrote: Why is his sexuality a shock? Thought it was common knowledge 20 years ago.[/p][/quote]eh ? nobody is it is the revelations and claims elsewhere that are the cause for concern why not check those ?[/p][/quote]I know you, your that Ted Rogers from 3-2-1 ! Talking in riddles and never making any sense. Im glad he didnt do any charity work, then Atkinson would have really got your wrath! s-pb2
  • Score: -2

10:12am Thu 24 Jul 14

nickynoodah says...

It was being one of those
that polished him off
you know
It was being one of those that polished him off you know nickynoodah
  • Score: -2

9:38am Fri 25 Jul 14

The Infamous Greg says...

I would be more worried if we found he'd been fiddling his expenses.
I would be more worried if we found he'd been fiddling his expenses. The Infamous Greg
  • Score: -1

4:38pm Sun 3 Aug 14

DarrenBryant says...

I had the privilege to work for David Atkinson for seven years and knew him for 15 years.

These despicable smears, lies and innuendos could not be further from the truth that David was a decent, religious, conscientious and honourable man.

I feel it is so sad to see people David loved so dearly attempt to opportunistically profit from their hateful deceits by besmirching someone who no longer as the right of reply.

It is pitiful to see David's family so consumed by hate and jealously to shamefully behave in this way.

I wish them peace and hope that they will see the error of their behaviour and credit David for the exceptionally brilliant MP and man that he was and was my privilege to know and call him a friend.
I had the privilege to work for David Atkinson for seven years and knew him for 15 years. These despicable smears, lies and innuendos could not be further from the truth that David was a decent, religious, conscientious and honourable man. I feel it is so sad to see people David loved so dearly attempt to opportunistically profit from their hateful deceits by besmirching someone who no longer as the right of reply. It is pitiful to see David's family so consumed by hate and jealously to shamefully behave in this way. I wish them peace and hope that they will see the error of their behaviour and credit David for the exceptionally brilliant MP and man that he was and was my privilege to know and call him a friend. DarrenBryant
  • Score: 1

2:18pm Wed 6 Aug 14

Whistlepop says...

..and isn't it about time a headstone was put on his grave after more than two years?

As for "opportunistically profiting", I wonder how much they really made from selling their stories to the press, despite denying receiving payment?
..and isn't it about time a headstone was put on his grave after more than two years? As for "opportunistically profiting", I wonder how much they really made from selling their stories to the press, despite denying receiving payment? Whistlepop
  • Score: 0

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