Teenagers took imitation handgun to confront social media bullies, court told

SENTENCED: Ryan Beeke arriving at Bournemouth Crown Court

SENTENCED: Ryan Beeke arriving at Bournemouth Crown Court

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FRIENDS who took an imitation handgun with them to confront a group of teenage girls have walked free from court.

Ryan Beeke, 19, and a 16-year-old girl who cannot be named, brought out the gun – an imitation of a Colt 1911 – when they met four young women outside Bourne Academy on March 9 this year.

Although the weapon was not used to threaten any of the teenagers, prosecutor Sadie Rizzo said it was ‘handled and passed between the two of them’.

After the victims walked away, the weapon was fired at the ground, she added.

“The defendant and one of the victims were friends, but had a falling out which appears to have been largely through social media,” Ms Rizzo said.

“They arranged a meeting, to take place outside a school in Kingswell Road, Kinson. The victim went along to meet the defendant together with three friends.”

But the female defendant arrived with Beeke, and the prosecutor said a handgun was passed between the two.

“There was a conversation about the gun, the victim and her former friend, and the victim said, ‘You wouldn’t actually do that’ – meaning shoot her – and the defendant said yes, she would,” Ms Rizzo said.

Although Beeke told police he had a clip for the weapon, no ammunition was recovered by police, and it is believed that the gun was not loaded when it was fired.

The defendants admitted having a firearm in a public place at Bournemouth Crown Court.

They denied possessing a firearm with intent to cause fear of violence, which was accepted by the prosecution.

Nick Robinson, mitigating for Beeke, said the defendant faces losing his apprenticeship as an electrical engineer. These three girls have been bullying the female defendant for some time,” he said.

“I am sure they will say the same. She was outnumbered three to one. Mr Beeke took a weapon just to defend them from physical attack, which was honestly anticipated.”

But Recorder Richard Onslow said he took the offence ‘very seriously’ before sentencing Beeke to 60 hours of unpaid work, and his co-accused to a four-month referral order.

“It was a very, very stupid thing to do,” he said.

“I don’t want anyone to go away from this court thinking, ‘That was easy – I just paid a bit of money and got away with it’.”

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2:50pm Thu 17 Jul 14

Sir Beachy Head says...

Beeke should have kept his beak out of the situation, then he wouldn't have ended up in court in front of the beak.
Beeke should have kept his beak out of the situation, then he wouldn't have ended up in court in front of the beak. Sir Beachy Head
  • Score: 13

2:55pm Thu 17 Jul 14

Old Colonial says...

“I don’t want anyone to go away from this court thinking, ‘That was easy – I just paid a bit of money and got away with it’.” Well what in God's name do you expect them to think!!

"Mr Beeke took a weapon just to defend them from physical attack, which was honestly anticipated.” You do not use a gun, period. Imitation, real, loaded or unloaded. You do not use a gun.
“I don’t want anyone to go away from this court thinking, ‘That was easy – I just paid a bit of money and got away with it’.” Well what in God's name do you expect them to think!! "Mr Beeke took a weapon just to defend them from physical attack, which was honestly anticipated.” You do not use a gun, period. Imitation, real, loaded or unloaded. You do not use a gun. Old Colonial
  • Score: 11

3:03pm Thu 17 Jul 14

burgerboy says...

The head lines could so easily been a lot different.
Sorry ms Beeke but your son has just been shot and killed by the armed response unit.
We honestly didn't know it was an imitation firearm.........what a prat!!!
The head lines could so easily been a lot different. Sorry ms Beeke but your son has just been shot and killed by the armed response unit. We honestly didn't know it was an imitation firearm.........what a prat!!! burgerboy
  • Score: 29

3:12pm Thu 17 Jul 14

speedy231278 says...

I'm confused. if this was an imitation handgun, why is there mention of ammunition not being found? And why does it state the gun was fired unless it might have percussion caps or something like that? Surely imitation guns do not have ammunition?
I'm confused. if this was an imitation handgun, why is there mention of ammunition not being found? And why does it state the gun was fired unless it might have percussion caps or something like that? Surely imitation guns do not have ammunition? speedy231278
  • Score: 15

3:23pm Thu 17 Jul 14

Claire380 says...

It was a BB gun! 2 people were involved in this but only 1 gets punishment so does that mean under the age of 18 u can do what u want with no reprimand being as it was the 16yr old girl who aimed the BB gun at the so called victims!
It was a BB gun! 2 people were involved in this but only 1 gets punishment so does that mean under the age of 18 u can do what u want with no reprimand being as it was the 16yr old girl who aimed the BB gun at the so called victims! Claire380
  • Score: -8

3:33pm Thu 17 Jul 14

pete woodley says...

No deterrent at all
No deterrent at all pete woodley
  • Score: 11

4:14pm Thu 17 Jul 14

BoscVegas says...

Imitation fire arm when I were a lad they were called toy guns. what a difference 20 years makes.
Imitation fire arm when I were a lad they were called toy guns. what a difference 20 years makes. BoscVegas
  • Score: 13

5:02pm Thu 17 Jul 14

O'Reilly says...

BoscVegas wrote:
Imitation fire arm when I were a lad they were called toy guns. what a difference 20 years makes.
60 years in my case......cowboy outfits, peacemaker guns and rolls of caps to go BANG !!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]BoscVegas[/bold] wrote: Imitation fire arm when I were a lad they were called toy guns. what a difference 20 years makes.[/p][/quote]60 years in my case......cowboy outfits, peacemaker guns and rolls of caps to go BANG !!!!!! O'Reilly
  • Score: 9

5:18pm Thu 17 Jul 14

crazybird says...

There is no discipline with these kids which is one of the reasons why this country is in such an apalling state. The police do little more than nothing and don't want to have to fill out the paperwork. My child was threatened with a baseball bat this week, punched in the face and then threatened with stabbing after he stood up for someone who was being bullied. We called the police and they asked me what I wanted them to do. No wonder people don't bother to call them and no wonder these revolting little creatures get away with everything and never learn.
There is no discipline with these kids which is one of the reasons why this country is in such an apalling state. The police do little more than nothing and don't want to have to fill out the paperwork. My child was threatened with a baseball bat this week, punched in the face and then threatened with stabbing after he stood up for someone who was being bullied. We called the police and they asked me what I wanted them to do. No wonder people don't bother to call them and no wonder these revolting little creatures get away with everything and never learn. crazybird
  • Score: 19

6:53pm Thu 17 Jul 14

Huey says...

crazybird wrote:
There is no discipline with these kids which is one of the reasons why this country is in such an apalling state. The police do little more than nothing and don't want to have to fill out the paperwork. My child was threatened with a baseball bat this week, punched in the face and then threatened with stabbing after he stood up for someone who was being bullied. We called the police and they asked me what I wanted them to do. No wonder people don't bother to call them and no wonder these revolting little creatures get away with everything and never learn.
It is time to set up armed vigilante groups that have arbitrary powers of arrest, that is the only thing that will make our streets safe.
[quote][p][bold]crazybird[/bold] wrote: There is no discipline with these kids which is one of the reasons why this country is in such an apalling state. The police do little more than nothing and don't want to have to fill out the paperwork. My child was threatened with a baseball bat this week, punched in the face and then threatened with stabbing after he stood up for someone who was being bullied. We called the police and they asked me what I wanted them to do. No wonder people don't bother to call them and no wonder these revolting little creatures get away with everything and never learn.[/p][/quote]It is time to set up armed vigilante groups that have arbitrary powers of arrest, that is the only thing that will make our streets safe. Huey
  • Score: 9

7:35pm Thu 17 Jul 14

kalebmoledirt says...

Chaves .No wonder the foreigners get the jobs . Ship them to a place where Tatoos .chewing gum and hair extensions leggings thongs a third arm to hold the bag of chip while yhe other grips the mobil leaving the other to scratch is seen as the norm,hang on.my mistake they are here.
Chaves .No wonder the foreigners get the jobs . Ship them to a place where Tatoos .chewing gum and hair extensions leggings thongs a third arm to hold the bag of chip while yhe other grips the mobil leaving the other to scratch is seen as the norm,hang on.my mistake they are here. kalebmoledirt
  • Score: 5

7:42pm Thu 17 Jul 14

Mejulie1967 says...

If these 3 bully girls were sorted in the first place it might never have come to this. How sad is it that somebody is driven to wrongly go and have to frighten these spiteful little girls to protect friend? I know everybody is up in arms about the imitation gun, but just imagine how you would feel if 3 kids bullied your child?
If these 3 bully girls were sorted in the first place it might never have come to this. How sad is it that somebody is driven to wrongly go and have to frighten these spiteful little girls to protect friend? I know everybody is up in arms about the imitation gun, but just imagine how you would feel if 3 kids bullied your child? Mejulie1967
  • Score: 15

11:19pm Thu 17 Jul 14

Webvision says...

Reading between the lines, this was probably a co2 air pistol or bb gun. (The 1911 style for these is pretty common). The penalties for misuse of replica or air weapons are quite serious and these two are lucky to have got away with the outcome they had. Whether they deserved more, or less is a different matter and it may be that they were just youngsters who did not appreciate the consequences of what they were doing. It certainly does not sound like they had any intent to harm anyone.
Reading between the lines, this was probably a co2 air pistol or bb gun. (The 1911 style for these is pretty common). The penalties for misuse of replica or air weapons are quite serious and these two are lucky to have got away with the outcome they had. Whether they deserved more, or less is a different matter and it may be that they were just youngsters who did not appreciate the consequences of what they were doing. It certainly does not sound like they had any intent to harm anyone. Webvision
  • Score: 3

8:41am Fri 18 Jul 14

podgie says...

Huey wrote:
crazybird wrote:
There is no discipline with these kids which is one of the reasons why this country is in such an apalling state. The police do little more than nothing and don't want to have to fill out the paperwork. My child was threatened with a baseball bat this week, punched in the face and then threatened with stabbing after he stood up for someone who was being bullied. We called the police and they asked me what I wanted them to do. No wonder people don't bother to call them and no wonder these revolting little creatures get away with everything and never learn.
It is time to set up armed vigilante groups that have arbitrary powers of arrest, that is the only thing that will make our streets safe.
Huey
You obviously dont even have arbitrary powers of reason.
Have you not been warned 'Never drink on an empty head'
I wouldn't let you loose with a pea shooter.....
[quote][p][bold]Huey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]crazybird[/bold] wrote: There is no discipline with these kids which is one of the reasons why this country is in such an apalling state. The police do little more than nothing and don't want to have to fill out the paperwork. My child was threatened with a baseball bat this week, punched in the face and then threatened with stabbing after he stood up for someone who was being bullied. We called the police and they asked me what I wanted them to do. No wonder people don't bother to call them and no wonder these revolting little creatures get away with everything and never learn.[/p][/quote]It is time to set up armed vigilante groups that have arbitrary powers of arrest, that is the only thing that will make our streets safe.[/p][/quote]Huey You obviously dont even have arbitrary powers of reason. Have you not been warned 'Never drink on an empty head' I wouldn't let you loose with a pea shooter..... podgie
  • Score: 1

9:54am Fri 18 Jul 14

Blackandred says...

kalebmoledirt wrote:
Chaves .No wonder the foreigners get the jobs . Ship them to a place where Tatoos .chewing gum and hair extensions leggings thongs a third arm to hold the bag of chip while yhe other grips the mobil leaving the other to scratch is seen as the norm,hang on.my mistake they are here.
Since you were speaking of negative stereotypes (you might need to look that up) and being judgemental: I have tattoos, two 1st class honours degrees, a very well paid job, am a member of MENSA and do a considerable amount of voluntary/charity work. I am guessing that you failed GCSE/O-level English with particularly poor marks on the questions involving spelling and punctuation – perhaps you should consider some body art to help boost your own IQ? I recommend that if you choose to have any words inscribed (i.e. BNP rules OK) that you get someone else to check the spelling for you first.

Care to play again?
[quote][p][bold]kalebmoledirt[/bold] wrote: Chaves .No wonder the foreigners get the jobs . Ship them to a place where Tatoos .chewing gum and hair extensions leggings thongs a third arm to hold the bag of chip while yhe other grips the mobil leaving the other to scratch is seen as the norm,hang on.my mistake they are here.[/p][/quote]Since you were speaking of negative stereotypes (you might need to look that up) and being judgemental: I have tattoos, two 1st class honours degrees, a very well paid job, am a member of MENSA and do a considerable amount of voluntary/charity work. I am guessing that you failed GCSE/O-level English with particularly poor marks on the questions involving spelling and punctuation – perhaps you should consider some body art to help boost your own IQ? I recommend that if you choose to have any words inscribed (i.e. BNP rules OK) that you get someone else to check the spelling for you first. Care to play again? Blackandred
  • Score: 5

5:31pm Fri 18 Jul 14

AdamSFC says...

Huey wrote:
crazybird wrote:
There is no discipline with these kids which is one of the reasons why this country is in such an apalling state. The police do little more than nothing and don't want to have to fill out the paperwork. My child was threatened with a baseball bat this week, punched in the face and then threatened with stabbing after he stood up for someone who was being bullied. We called the police and they asked me what I wanted them to do. No wonder people don't bother to call them and no wonder these revolting little creatures get away with everything and never learn.
It is time to set up armed vigilante groups that have arbitrary powers of arrest, that is the only thing that will make our streets safe.
Oh yeah, because in the past when places have had vigilante groups they have always been such wonderful places to live. Get a grip mate. try moving to somewhere with a real problem with this sort of thing like Johannesburg or Honduras and maybe you will realise how lucky you are to live here. Muppet.
[quote][p][bold]Huey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]crazybird[/bold] wrote: There is no discipline with these kids which is one of the reasons why this country is in such an apalling state. The police do little more than nothing and don't want to have to fill out the paperwork. My child was threatened with a baseball bat this week, punched in the face and then threatened with stabbing after he stood up for someone who was being bullied. We called the police and they asked me what I wanted them to do. No wonder people don't bother to call them and no wonder these revolting little creatures get away with everything and never learn.[/p][/quote]It is time to set up armed vigilante groups that have arbitrary powers of arrest, that is the only thing that will make our streets safe.[/p][/quote]Oh yeah, because in the past when places have had vigilante groups they have always been such wonderful places to live. Get a grip mate. try moving to somewhere with a real problem with this sort of thing like Johannesburg or Honduras and maybe you will realise how lucky you are to live here. Muppet. AdamSFC
  • Score: 0

5:33pm Fri 18 Jul 14

AdamSFC says...

kalebmoledirt wrote:
Chaves .No wonder the foreigners get the jobs . Ship them to a place where Tatoos .chewing gum and hair extensions leggings thongs a third arm to hold the bag of chip while yhe other grips the mobil leaving the other to scratch is seen as the norm,hang on.my mistake they are here.
I swear the comments on this site get weirder by the day.
[quote][p][bold]kalebmoledirt[/bold] wrote: Chaves .No wonder the foreigners get the jobs . Ship them to a place where Tatoos .chewing gum and hair extensions leggings thongs a third arm to hold the bag of chip while yhe other grips the mobil leaving the other to scratch is seen as the norm,hang on.my mistake they are here.[/p][/quote]I swear the comments on this site get weirder by the day. AdamSFC
  • Score: 0

7:17pm Fri 18 Jul 14

HRH of Boscombe says...

Huey wrote:
crazybird wrote:
There is no discipline with these kids which is one of the reasons why this country is in such an apalling state. The police do little more than nothing and don't want to have to fill out the paperwork. My child was threatened with a baseball bat this week, punched in the face and then threatened with stabbing after he stood up for someone who was being bullied. We called the police and they asked me what I wanted them to do. No wonder people don't bother to call them and no wonder these revolting little creatures get away with everything and never learn.
It is time to set up armed vigilante groups that have arbitrary powers of arrest, that is the only thing that will make our streets safe.
Idiot that's what these two were trying to do! Look how that turned out. lol clucking lol.
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Really stupid though. She's probably going to get bullied even worse now.
[quote][p][bold]Huey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]crazybird[/bold] wrote: There is no discipline with these kids which is one of the reasons why this country is in such an apalling state. The police do little more than nothing and don't want to have to fill out the paperwork. My child was threatened with a baseball bat this week, punched in the face and then threatened with stabbing after he stood up for someone who was being bullied. We called the police and they asked me what I wanted them to do. No wonder people don't bother to call them and no wonder these revolting little creatures get away with everything and never learn.[/p][/quote]It is time to set up armed vigilante groups that have arbitrary powers of arrest, that is the only thing that will make our streets safe.[/p][/quote]Idiot that's what these two were trying to do! Look how that turned out. lol clucking lol. . Really stupid though. She's probably going to get bullied even worse now. HRH of Boscombe
  • Score: 1

7:23pm Fri 18 Jul 14

HRH of Boscombe says...

Mejulie1967 wrote:
If these 3 bully girls were sorted in the first place it might never have come to this. How sad is it that somebody is driven to wrongly go and have to frighten these spiteful little girls to protect friend? I know everybody is up in arms about the imitation gun, but just imagine how you would feel if 3 kids bullied your child?
I agree but bringing Hamburger and his Happy Meal gun along wasn't the brightest solution.
[quote][p][bold]Mejulie1967[/bold] wrote: If these 3 bully girls were sorted in the first place it might never have come to this. How sad is it that somebody is driven to wrongly go and have to frighten these spiteful little girls to protect friend? I know everybody is up in arms about the imitation gun, but just imagine how you would feel if 3 kids bullied your child?[/p][/quote]I agree but bringing Hamburger and his Happy Meal gun along wasn't the brightest solution. HRH of Boscombe
  • Score: 1

10:37pm Fri 18 Jul 14

ScoobyVic says...

kalebmoledirt wrote:
Chaves .No wonder the foreigners get the jobs . Ship them to a place where Tatoos .chewing gum and hair extensions leggings thongs a third arm to hold the bag of chip while yhe other grips the mobil leaving the other to scratch is seen as the norm,hang on.my mistake they are here.
What is a Chave anyway? And Blackandread is right, you shouldn't stereotype, I've got tattoos and am probably one of the most peaceful and calm people you'll ever meet. And Claire380, Beeke got 60 hours of unpaid work and his Co-defendant got a 4 month referral order so she didn't get off scott free although I'm not sure how much of a deterrent a referral order is? What they did was stupid, as others have said, it could've turned into something much more serious. But then when people are bullied they do things which are irrational out of desperation, let's hope people read this and think twice before bullying someone.
[quote][p][bold]kalebmoledirt[/bold] wrote: Chaves .No wonder the foreigners get the jobs . Ship them to a place where Tatoos .chewing gum and hair extensions leggings thongs a third arm to hold the bag of chip while yhe other grips the mobil leaving the other to scratch is seen as the norm,hang on.my mistake they are here.[/p][/quote]What is a Chave anyway? And Blackandread is right, you shouldn't stereotype, I've got tattoos and am probably one of the most peaceful and calm people you'll ever meet. And Claire380, Beeke got 60 hours of unpaid work and his Co-defendant got a 4 month referral order so she didn't get off scott free although I'm not sure how much of a deterrent a referral order is? What they did was stupid, as others have said, it could've turned into something much more serious. But then when people are bullied they do things which are irrational out of desperation, let's hope people read this and think twice before bullying someone. ScoobyVic
  • Score: 3

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