New Forest campaigners hit out at plans to hold two mass cycle events on the same day

Campaigners hit out at plans to hold two mass cycle events on the same day

Campaigners hit out at plans to hold two mass cycle events on the same day

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CAMPAIGNERS have hit out at plans to hold two mass cycling events in the New Forest on the same day.

Thousands of riders are set to descend on the Forest on October 12, sparking fears from residents that the area will be hit by traffic chaos and other issues.

The two-day Wiggle New Forest 100, expected to attract about 2,000 riders, is due to take place on October 11 and 12.

But the CTC Wessex Cycling Gridiron event is scheduled to take place in the same area on October 12.

The clash, thought to be the first of its kind in the area, was revealed at the Court of Verderers in Lyndhurst yesterday.

New Forest Association member Brian Tarnoff said the Gridiron ride, described as “orienteering with bikes”, was due to attract as many as 1,000 entrants and warned the two cycle event routes would overlap.

Last night Cllr Maureen Holding said the rides would result in cyclists “saturating” the roads.

She added: “Organisers of mass cycling events are treating the Forest as a playground. The time is coming for legislation to sort this out.”

Julian Lewis, Tory MP for New Forest East, repeated his call for large cycle rides to be regulated.

He said: “The ever-increasing frequency of these very large events shows there will no end to this worsening problem until a proper system to licence mass cycling in the New Forest is established.

“I will continue to exert maximum pressure on the relevant department to achieve this.”

A National Park Authority spokesman said the Wiggle event, organised by UK Cycling Events, was being re-routed to prevent it conflicting with the Gridiron ride and a pony round-up taking place in Brockenhurst on the same day.

He added: “A new event notification system, linked to an online calendar, will soon be launched by the New Forest Safety Advisory Group.

“This, together with advance information about round-ups, will help avoid future clashes.”

Gridiron organisers said the change of route meant the clash “no longer constitutes a danger”.

Cyclists taking part in previous events staged by UK Cycling Events have been accused of clogging the roads, shouting abuse at drivers and using village greens as toilets.

Organisers have responded to the criticism by cutting the maximum number of riders by 20 per cent and deploying more marshals.

But anti-cycling campaigners have tried to sabotage several events by throwing tacks across roads and removing signs designed to help riders.

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9:41am Thu 17 Jul 14

anotherfatslob says...

Ha ha go team bikers
Ha ha go team bikers anotherfatslob
  • Score: 6

9:55am Thu 17 Jul 14

Kamikazi says...

Whilst most cyclist in the Forrest respect that they have to share the road with other users the people in "competitions" do not. They ride 3 or 4 abreast on small roads, bunch up into groups of 20 to 40 bikes making it very dangerous to overtake and basically force you to drive at less than half the rate you are legally allowed to whilst wiggling their lycra clad arses in your face. Add to that the dangerous cutting of corners and getting dangerously close to pedestrians and you have a serious problem.

Any attempt to ask them politely to move over is met with anger, abuse and on several occasions attempting to spit through my window. I have, on several occasions, been overtaking a group of 20 or so of these people only for the guys at the front to move out to take over the entire breadth of the road, beeping of the horn to alert them of my presence is met with slowing down and attempting to box in my car, whilst swearing profusely!!

One day these people will meet the wrong driver and then be complaining to the police that they were run over, and they will have no sympathy from me.
Whilst most cyclist in the Forrest respect that they have to share the road with other users the people in "competitions" do not. They ride 3 or 4 abreast on small roads, bunch up into groups of 20 to 40 bikes making it very dangerous to overtake and basically force you to drive at less than half the rate you are legally allowed to whilst wiggling their lycra clad arses in your face. Add to that the dangerous cutting of corners and getting dangerously close to pedestrians and you have a serious problem. Any attempt to ask them politely to move over is met with anger, abuse and on several occasions attempting to spit through my window. I have, on several occasions, been overtaking a group of 20 or so of these people only for the guys at the front to move out to take over the entire breadth of the road, beeping of the horn to alert them of my presence is met with slowing down and attempting to box in my car, whilst swearing profusely!! One day these people will meet the wrong driver and then be complaining to the police that they were run over, and they will have no sympathy from me. Kamikazi
  • Score: 11

9:58am Thu 17 Jul 14

Arthur Maureen says...

Yes, these evil cyclists are going to be saturating the roads of the new forest. What will be motor vehicles that normally own the roads, involved in multiple fatal pony / livestock collisions do for the day?!?
I must keep an eye out on my ride for the very elderly Suzygirl, she's easy to spot, frothing at the mouth whilst riding her clapped out step thru..
Yes, these evil cyclists are going to be saturating the roads of the new forest. What will be motor vehicles that normally own the roads, involved in multiple fatal pony / livestock collisions do for the day?!? I must keep an eye out on my ride for the very elderly Suzygirl, she's easy to spot, frothing at the mouth whilst riding her clapped out step thru.. Arthur Maureen
  • Score: 4

10:08am Thu 17 Jul 14

suzigirl says...

Arthur Maureen wrote:
Yes, these evil cyclists are going to be saturating the roads of the new forest. What will be motor vehicles that normally own the roads, involved in multiple fatal pony / livestock collisions do for the day?!? I must keep an eye out on my ride for the very elderly Suzygirl, she's easy to spot, frothing at the mouth whilst riding her clapped out step thru..
From your comment the only person "frothing at the mouth" is you mate! The thought of you wiggling in your sweaty stained lycra with snot and bile coming out of every orifice is not a pretty picture...... Are you sure the over 70's are allowed at the event?
[quote][p][bold]Arthur Maureen[/bold] wrote: Yes, these evil cyclists are going to be saturating the roads of the new forest. What will be motor vehicles that normally own the roads, involved in multiple fatal pony / livestock collisions do for the day?!? I must keep an eye out on my ride for the very elderly Suzygirl, she's easy to spot, frothing at the mouth whilst riding her clapped out step thru..[/p][/quote]From your comment the only person "frothing at the mouth" is you mate! The thought of you wiggling in your sweaty stained lycra with snot and bile coming out of every orifice is not a pretty picture...... Are you sure the over 70's are allowed at the event? suzigirl
  • Score: -10

10:10am Thu 17 Jul 14

Arthur Maureen says...

Kamikazi wrote:
Whilst most cyclist in the Forrest respect that they have to share the road with other users the people in "competitions" do not. They ride 3 or 4 abreast on small roads, bunch up into groups of 20 to 40 bikes making it very dangerous to overtake and basically force you to drive at less than half the rate you are legally allowed to whilst wiggling their lycra clad arses in your face. Add to that the dangerous cutting of corners and getting dangerously close to pedestrians and you have a serious problem.

Any attempt to ask them politely to move over is met with anger, abuse and on several occasions attempting to spit through my window. I have, on several occasions, been overtaking a group of 20 or so of these people only for the guys at the front to move out to take over the entire breadth of the road, beeping of the horn to alert them of my presence is met with slowing down and attempting to box in my car, whilst swearing profusely!!

One day these people will meet the wrong driver and then be complaining to the police that they were run over, and they will have no sympathy from me.
I agree, your always going to get some who ruin it for others, but to tar the 2,000 odd who ride in the wiggle 100 with the same brush is harsh, what about the significant minority of vehicle users who overtake cyclists with the bare minimum of clearance?? happens all the time in the forest and elsewhere.. your always going to get some who flout the law, jump lights and so on but what about the 'amber gamblers' who risk others whilst driving tonnes of metal at speed through lights when they shouldn't ?
[quote][p][bold]Kamikazi[/bold] wrote: Whilst most cyclist in the Forrest respect that they have to share the road with other users the people in "competitions" do not. They ride 3 or 4 abreast on small roads, bunch up into groups of 20 to 40 bikes making it very dangerous to overtake and basically force you to drive at less than half the rate you are legally allowed to whilst wiggling their lycra clad arses in your face. Add to that the dangerous cutting of corners and getting dangerously close to pedestrians and you have a serious problem. Any attempt to ask them politely to move over is met with anger, abuse and on several occasions attempting to spit through my window. I have, on several occasions, been overtaking a group of 20 or so of these people only for the guys at the front to move out to take over the entire breadth of the road, beeping of the horn to alert them of my presence is met with slowing down and attempting to box in my car, whilst swearing profusely!! One day these people will meet the wrong driver and then be complaining to the police that they were run over, and they will have no sympathy from me.[/p][/quote]I agree, your always going to get some who ruin it for others, but to tar the 2,000 odd who ride in the wiggle 100 with the same brush is harsh, what about the significant minority of vehicle users who overtake cyclists with the bare minimum of clearance?? happens all the time in the forest and elsewhere.. your always going to get some who flout the law, jump lights and so on but what about the 'amber gamblers' who risk others whilst driving tonnes of metal at speed through lights when they shouldn't ? Arthur Maureen
  • Score: 4

10:11am Thu 17 Jul 14

billy bumble says...

Surely even committed cyclist must realise that this is overload
Surely even committed cyclist must realise that this is overload billy bumble
  • Score: 6

10:12am Thu 17 Jul 14

billy bumble says...

billy bumble wrote:
Surely even committed cyclist must realise that this is overload
cyclists I mean
[quote][p][bold]billy bumble[/bold] wrote: Surely even committed cyclist must realise that this is overload[/p][/quote]cyclists I mean billy bumble
  • Score: 0

10:13am Thu 17 Jul 14

Arthur Maureen says...

suzigirl wrote:
Arthur Maureen wrote:
Yes, these evil cyclists are going to be saturating the roads of the new forest. What will be motor vehicles that normally own the roads, involved in multiple fatal pony / livestock collisions do for the day?!? I must keep an eye out on my ride for the very elderly Suzygirl, she's easy to spot, frothing at the mouth whilst riding her clapped out step thru..
From your comment the only person "frothing at the mouth" is you mate! The thought of you wiggling in your sweaty stained lycra with snot and bile coming out of every orifice is not a pretty picture...... Are you sure the over 70's are allowed at the event?
there's no age restriction, your quite welcome.
[quote][p][bold]suzigirl[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Arthur Maureen[/bold] wrote: Yes, these evil cyclists are going to be saturating the roads of the new forest. What will be motor vehicles that normally own the roads, involved in multiple fatal pony / livestock collisions do for the day?!? I must keep an eye out on my ride for the very elderly Suzygirl, she's easy to spot, frothing at the mouth whilst riding her clapped out step thru..[/p][/quote]From your comment the only person "frothing at the mouth" is you mate! The thought of you wiggling in your sweaty stained lycra with snot and bile coming out of every orifice is not a pretty picture...... Are you sure the over 70's are allowed at the event?[/p][/quote]there's no age restriction, your quite welcome. Arthur Maureen
  • Score: 3

10:13am Thu 17 Jul 14

Paul Weaver says...

I guess the same old arguments are going to get posted.

I wonder if the Councillor could get her Council or may be even the County Council (I am not sure which Council she is part of) to show us any evidence that supports the agruments against cycle events in the Forest.

It seems the organisers of these events are trying to work with the reasonable element of the area to avoid any clashes.

A lot of things have been learnt over the events held to promote harmony.

Or is this a case of NIMNF (Not in MY New Forest) as oppsed to NIMBY (Not in My Back Yard)?

I would remind these desenters that the New Forest is a National Park not a local park and as such is an asset that all can enjoy.
I guess the same old arguments are going to get posted. I wonder if the Councillor could get her Council or may be even the County Council (I am not sure which Council she is part of) to show us any evidence that supports the agruments against cycle events in the Forest. It seems the organisers of these events are trying to work with the reasonable element of the area to avoid any clashes. A lot of things have been learnt over the events held to promote harmony. Or is this a case of NIMNF (Not in MY New Forest) as oppsed to NIMBY (Not in My Back Yard)? I would remind these desenters that the New Forest is a National Park not a local park and as such is an asset that all can enjoy. Paul Weaver
  • Score: 10

10:17am Thu 17 Jul 14

suzigirl says...

Kamikazi wrote:
Whilst most cyclist in the Forrest respect that they have to share the road with other users the people in "competitions" do not. They ride 3 or 4 abreast on small roads, bunch up into groups of 20 to 40 bikes making it very dangerous to overtake and basically force you to drive at less than half the rate you are legally allowed to whilst wiggling their lycra clad arses in your face. Add to that the dangerous cutting of corners and getting dangerously close to pedestrians and you have a serious problem. Any attempt to ask them politely to move over is met with anger, abuse and on several occasions attempting to spit through my window. I have, on several occasions, been overtaking a group of 20 or so of these people only for the guys at the front to move out to take over the entire breadth of the road, beeping of the horn to alert them of my presence is met with slowing down and attempting to box in my car, whilst swearing profusely!! One day these people will meet the wrong driver and then be complaining to the police that they were run over, and they will have no sympathy from me.
Are you trying to get the most thumbs down of the day. You cannot criticise cyclists - they are good law abiding citizens who cycle everywhere and are good for the environment and health (whilst travelling to these events in their gas guzzlers!).
[quote][p][bold]Kamikazi[/bold] wrote: Whilst most cyclist in the Forrest respect that they have to share the road with other users the people in "competitions" do not. They ride 3 or 4 abreast on small roads, bunch up into groups of 20 to 40 bikes making it very dangerous to overtake and basically force you to drive at less than half the rate you are legally allowed to whilst wiggling their lycra clad arses in your face. Add to that the dangerous cutting of corners and getting dangerously close to pedestrians and you have a serious problem. Any attempt to ask them politely to move over is met with anger, abuse and on several occasions attempting to spit through my window. I have, on several occasions, been overtaking a group of 20 or so of these people only for the guys at the front to move out to take over the entire breadth of the road, beeping of the horn to alert them of my presence is met with slowing down and attempting to box in my car, whilst swearing profusely!! One day these people will meet the wrong driver and then be complaining to the police that they were run over, and they will have no sympathy from me.[/p][/quote]Are you trying to get the most thumbs down of the day. You cannot criticise cyclists - they are good law abiding citizens who cycle everywhere and are good for the environment and health (whilst travelling to these events in their gas guzzlers!). suzigirl
  • Score: -11

10:31am Thu 17 Jul 14

Hessenford says...

suzigirl wrote:
Arthur Maureen wrote:
Yes, these evil cyclists are going to be saturating the roads of the new forest. What will be motor vehicles that normally own the roads, involved in multiple fatal pony / livestock collisions do for the day?!? I must keep an eye out on my ride for the very elderly Suzygirl, she's easy to spot, frothing at the mouth whilst riding her clapped out step thru..
From your comment the only person "frothing at the mouth" is you mate! The thought of you wiggling in your sweaty stained lycra with snot and bile coming out of every orifice is not a pretty picture...... Are you sure the over 70's are allowed at the event?
The thought of you wiggling in your sweaty stained lycra with snot and bile coming out of every orifice,
Oh Please, your comment, although funny, has completely ruined my porridge breakfast.
[quote][p][bold]suzigirl[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Arthur Maureen[/bold] wrote: Yes, these evil cyclists are going to be saturating the roads of the new forest. What will be motor vehicles that normally own the roads, involved in multiple fatal pony / livestock collisions do for the day?!? I must keep an eye out on my ride for the very elderly Suzygirl, she's easy to spot, frothing at the mouth whilst riding her clapped out step thru..[/p][/quote]From your comment the only person "frothing at the mouth" is you mate! The thought of you wiggling in your sweaty stained lycra with snot and bile coming out of every orifice is not a pretty picture...... Are you sure the over 70's are allowed at the event?[/p][/quote]The thought of you wiggling in your sweaty stained lycra with snot and bile coming out of every orifice, Oh Please, your comment, although funny, has completely ruined my porridge breakfast. Hessenford
  • Score: 4

10:32am Thu 17 Jul 14

Kamikazi says...

Arthur Maureen wrote:
Kamikazi wrote:
Whilst most cyclist in the Forrest respect that they have to share the road with other users the people in "competitions" do not. They ride 3 or 4 abreast on small roads, bunch up into groups of 20 to 40 bikes making it very dangerous to overtake and basically force you to drive at less than half the rate you are legally allowed to whilst wiggling their lycra clad arses in your face. Add to that the dangerous cutting of corners and getting dangerously close to pedestrians and you have a serious problem.

Any attempt to ask them politely to move over is met with anger, abuse and on several occasions attempting to spit through my window. I have, on several occasions, been overtaking a group of 20 or so of these people only for the guys at the front to move out to take over the entire breadth of the road, beeping of the horn to alert them of my presence is met with slowing down and attempting to box in my car, whilst swearing profusely!!

One day these people will meet the wrong driver and then be complaining to the police that they were run over, and they will have no sympathy from me.
I agree, your always going to get some who ruin it for others, but to tar the 2,000 odd who ride in the wiggle 100 with the same brush is harsh, what about the significant minority of vehicle users who overtake cyclists with the bare minimum of clearance?? happens all the time in the forest and elsewhere.. your always going to get some who flout the law, jump lights and so on but what about the 'amber gamblers' who risk others whilst driving tonnes of metal at speed through lights when they shouldn't ?
I agree, your always going to get some who ruin it for others, but to tar the 2,000 odd who ride in the wiggle 100 with the same brush is harsh


I have to assume they will all be that bad in order to make sure I am ready for the ones that move out suddenly to block traffic that would otherwise have seen a collision between my car and the bike. I want to avoid that at all costs, because quite frankly, I'll be fine but they'll be in intensive care if there was a collision.
[quote][p][bold]Arthur Maureen[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Kamikazi[/bold] wrote: Whilst most cyclist in the Forrest respect that they have to share the road with other users the people in "competitions" do not. They ride 3 or 4 abreast on small roads, bunch up into groups of 20 to 40 bikes making it very dangerous to overtake and basically force you to drive at less than half the rate you are legally allowed to whilst wiggling their lycra clad arses in your face. Add to that the dangerous cutting of corners and getting dangerously close to pedestrians and you have a serious problem. Any attempt to ask them politely to move over is met with anger, abuse and on several occasions attempting to spit through my window. I have, on several occasions, been overtaking a group of 20 or so of these people only for the guys at the front to move out to take over the entire breadth of the road, beeping of the horn to alert them of my presence is met with slowing down and attempting to box in my car, whilst swearing profusely!! One day these people will meet the wrong driver and then be complaining to the police that they were run over, and they will have no sympathy from me.[/p][/quote]I agree, your always going to get some who ruin it for others, but to tar the 2,000 odd who ride in the wiggle 100 with the same brush is harsh, what about the significant minority of vehicle users who overtake cyclists with the bare minimum of clearance?? happens all the time in the forest and elsewhere.. your always going to get some who flout the law, jump lights and so on but what about the 'amber gamblers' who risk others whilst driving tonnes of metal at speed through lights when they shouldn't ?[/p][/quote][quote]I agree, your always going to get some who ruin it for others, but to tar the 2,000 odd who ride in the wiggle 100 with the same brush is harsh[/quote] I have to assume they will all be that bad in order to make sure I am ready for the ones that move out suddenly to block traffic that would otherwise have seen a collision between my car and the bike. I want to avoid that at all costs, because quite frankly, I'll be fine but they'll be in intensive care if there was a collision. Kamikazi
  • Score: 1

11:10am Thu 17 Jul 14

mac340v8 says...

Regardless of your views on car v cyclist, which could be debated til the cows come home, it is stupid to hold two major 'vehicle'-based events in the same area at the same time, whether they are bikes,rally cars or space hoppers...
Regardless of your views on car v cyclist, which could be debated til the cows come home, it is stupid to hold two major 'vehicle'-based events in the same area at the same time, whether they are bikes,rally cars or space hoppers... mac340v8
  • Score: 13

11:31am Thu 17 Jul 14

retry69 says...

mac340v8 wrote:
Regardless of your views on car v cyclist, which could be debated til the cows come home, it is stupid to hold two major 'vehicle'-based events in the same area at the same time, whether they are bikes,rally cars or space hoppers...
Space Hoppers ? You are not the letter writer today who is using the name Gaynor Mooney are you ?
[quote][p][bold]mac340v8[/bold] wrote: Regardless of your views on car v cyclist, which could be debated til the cows come home, it is stupid to hold two major 'vehicle'-based events in the same area at the same time, whether they are bikes,rally cars or space hoppers...[/p][/quote]Space Hoppers ? You are not the letter writer today who is using the name Gaynor Mooney are you ? retry69
  • Score: 1

11:32am Thu 17 Jul 14

Dave2207 says...

Traffic jams are common enough in this area, without slow-moving cyclists making things worse. They should be compelled to ride single-file, close to the kerb.
Traffic jams are common enough in this area, without slow-moving cyclists making things worse. They should be compelled to ride single-file, close to the kerb. Dave2207
  • Score: -4

12:03pm Thu 17 Jul 14

Argie Bhagie says...

I wonder what TACK ticks will be taken?
I wonder what TACK ticks will be taken? Argie Bhagie
  • Score: 4

12:05pm Thu 17 Jul 14

Top_Gear says...

Kamikazi wrote:
Whilst most cyclist in the Forrest respect that they have to share the road with other users the people in "competitions" do not. They ride 3 or 4 abreast on small roads, bunch up into groups of 20 to 40 bikes making it very dangerous to overtake and basically force you to drive at less than half the rate you are legally allowed to whilst wiggling their lycra clad arses in your face. Add to that the dangerous cutting of corners and getting dangerously close to pedestrians and you have a serious problem. Any attempt to ask them politely to move over is met with anger, abuse and on several occasions attempting to spit through my window. I have, on several occasions, been overtaking a group of 20 or so of these people only for the guys at the front to move out to take over the entire breadth of the road, beeping of the horn to alert them of my presence is met with slowing down and attempting to box in my car, whilst swearing profusely!! One day these people will meet the wrong driver and then be complaining to the police that they were run over, and they will have no sympathy from me.
The reason some of these cyclists may move into the centre of the lane (primary position) when you attempt to overtake is most likely to be found in this artcle:
http://www.motoring.
co.uk/car-news/cycli
sts-why-do-they-ride
-in-the-middle-of-th
e-road-_62617
[quote][p][bold]Kamikazi[/bold] wrote: Whilst most cyclist in the Forrest respect that they have to share the road with other users the people in "competitions" do not. They ride 3 or 4 abreast on small roads, bunch up into groups of 20 to 40 bikes making it very dangerous to overtake and basically force you to drive at less than half the rate you are legally allowed to whilst wiggling their lycra clad arses in your face. Add to that the dangerous cutting of corners and getting dangerously close to pedestrians and you have a serious problem. Any attempt to ask them politely to move over is met with anger, abuse and on several occasions attempting to spit through my window. I have, on several occasions, been overtaking a group of 20 or so of these people only for the guys at the front to move out to take over the entire breadth of the road, beeping of the horn to alert them of my presence is met with slowing down and attempting to box in my car, whilst swearing profusely!! One day these people will meet the wrong driver and then be complaining to the police that they were run over, and they will have no sympathy from me.[/p][/quote]The reason some of these cyclists may move into the centre of the lane (primary position) when you attempt to overtake is most likely to be found in this artcle: http://www.motoring. co.uk/car-news/cycli sts-why-do-they-ride -in-the-middle-of-th e-road-_62617 Top_Gear
  • Score: 0

12:10pm Thu 17 Jul 14

Molecatcher says...

this is all getting a bit daft.
this is all getting a bit daft. Molecatcher
  • Score: 1

12:37pm Thu 17 Jul 14

Arthur Maureen says...

Dave2207 wrote:
Traffic jams are common enough in this area, without slow-moving cyclists making things worse. They should be compelled to ride single-file, close to the kerb.
You should be compelled to walk instead.
[quote][p][bold]Dave2207[/bold] wrote: Traffic jams are common enough in this area, without slow-moving cyclists making things worse. They should be compelled to ride single-file, close to the kerb.[/p][/quote]You should be compelled to walk instead. Arthur Maureen
  • Score: 8

12:48pm Thu 17 Jul 14

Kamikazi says...

Top_Gear wrote:
Kamikazi wrote:
Whilst most cyclist in the Forrest respect that they have to share the road with other users the people in "competitions" do not. They ride 3 or 4 abreast on small roads, bunch up into groups of 20 to 40 bikes making it very dangerous to overtake and basically force you to drive at less than half the rate you are legally allowed to whilst wiggling their lycra clad arses in your face. Add to that the dangerous cutting of corners and getting dangerously close to pedestrians and you have a serious problem. Any attempt to ask them politely to move over is met with anger, abuse and on several occasions attempting to spit through my window. I have, on several occasions, been overtaking a group of 20 or so of these people only for the guys at the front to move out to take over the entire breadth of the road, beeping of the horn to alert them of my presence is met with slowing down and attempting to box in my car, whilst swearing profusely!! One day these people will meet the wrong driver and then be complaining to the police that they were run over, and they will have no sympathy from me.
The reason some of these cyclists may move into the centre of the lane (primary position) when you attempt to overtake is most likely to be found in this artcle:
http://www.motoring.

co.uk/car-news/cycli

sts-why-do-they-ride

-in-the-middle-of-th

e-road-_62617
In my examples and experience they are not "moving over to take primary position" they are moving over to be arseholes. After all primary position is the middle of the LANE not completely the opposite side of the road spread 3, 4 or 5 bikes wide, which is what happens in the situations where I am "boxed in".
[quote][p][bold]Top_Gear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Kamikazi[/bold] wrote: Whilst most cyclist in the Forrest respect that they have to share the road with other users the people in "competitions" do not. They ride 3 or 4 abreast on small roads, bunch up into groups of 20 to 40 bikes making it very dangerous to overtake and basically force you to drive at less than half the rate you are legally allowed to whilst wiggling their lycra clad arses in your face. Add to that the dangerous cutting of corners and getting dangerously close to pedestrians and you have a serious problem. Any attempt to ask them politely to move over is met with anger, abuse and on several occasions attempting to spit through my window. I have, on several occasions, been overtaking a group of 20 or so of these people only for the guys at the front to move out to take over the entire breadth of the road, beeping of the horn to alert them of my presence is met with slowing down and attempting to box in my car, whilst swearing profusely!! One day these people will meet the wrong driver and then be complaining to the police that they were run over, and they will have no sympathy from me.[/p][/quote]The reason some of these cyclists may move into the centre of the lane (primary position) when you attempt to overtake is most likely to be found in this artcle: http://www.motoring. co.uk/car-news/cycli sts-why-do-they-ride -in-the-middle-of-th e-road-_62617[/p][/quote]In my examples and experience they are not "moving over to take primary position" they are moving over to be arseholes. After all primary position is the middle of the LANE not completely the opposite side of the road spread 3, 4 or 5 bikes wide, which is what happens in the situations where I am "boxed in". Kamikazi
  • Score: 2

1:29pm Thu 17 Jul 14

bourne free says...

suzigirl wrote:
Arthur Maureen wrote:
Yes, these evil cyclists are going to be saturating the roads of the new forest. What will be motor vehicles that normally own the roads, involved in multiple fatal pony / livestock collisions do for the day?!? I must keep an eye out on my ride for the very elderly Suzygirl, she's easy to spot, frothing at the mouth whilst riding her clapped out step thru..
From your comment the only person "frothing at the mouth" is you mate! The thought of you wiggling in your sweaty stained lycra with snot and bile coming out of every orifice is not a pretty picture...... Are you sure the over 70's are allowed at the event?
Yes - hook line and sinker - what is your problem with fit young people riding cycles Susanne my love ?
[quote][p][bold]suzigirl[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Arthur Maureen[/bold] wrote: Yes, these evil cyclists are going to be saturating the roads of the new forest. What will be motor vehicles that normally own the roads, involved in multiple fatal pony / livestock collisions do for the day?!? I must keep an eye out on my ride for the very elderly Suzygirl, she's easy to spot, frothing at the mouth whilst riding her clapped out step thru..[/p][/quote]From your comment the only person "frothing at the mouth" is you mate! The thought of you wiggling in your sweaty stained lycra with snot and bile coming out of every orifice is not a pretty picture...... Are you sure the over 70's are allowed at the event?[/p][/quote]Yes - hook line and sinker - what is your problem with fit young people riding cycles Susanne my love ? bourne free
  • Score: 0

1:53pm Thu 17 Jul 14

Gooby! says...

Kamikazi wrote:
Top_Gear wrote:
Kamikazi wrote:
Whilst most cyclist in the Forrest respect that they have to share the road with other users the people in "competitions" do not. They ride 3 or 4 abreast on small roads, bunch up into groups of 20 to 40 bikes making it very dangerous to overtake and basically force you to drive at less than half the rate you are legally allowed to whilst wiggling their lycra clad arses in your face. Add to that the dangerous cutting of corners and getting dangerously close to pedestrians and you have a serious problem. Any attempt to ask them politely to move over is met with anger, abuse and on several occasions attempting to spit through my window. I have, on several occasions, been overtaking a group of 20 or so of these people only for the guys at the front to move out to take over the entire breadth of the road, beeping of the horn to alert them of my presence is met with slowing down and attempting to box in my car, whilst swearing profusely!! One day these people will meet the wrong driver and then be complaining to the police that they were run over, and they will have no sympathy from me.
The reason some of these cyclists may move into the centre of the lane (primary position) when you attempt to overtake is most likely to be found in this artcle:
http://www.motoring.


co.uk/car-news/cycli


sts-why-do-they-ride


-in-the-middle-of-th


e-road-_62617
In my examples and experience they are not "moving over to take primary position" they are moving over to be arseholes. After all primary position is the middle of the LANE not completely the opposite side of the road spread 3, 4 or 5 bikes wide, which is what happens in the situations where I am "boxed in".
Boxing in of cars is a practice that is done by some "braver cyclists" in order to contain a driver that is dangerous, stupid or reckless. I contains a moron before they can harm anyone.

"Boxed in" a lot?
[quote][p][bold]Kamikazi[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Top_Gear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Kamikazi[/bold] wrote: Whilst most cyclist in the Forrest respect that they have to share the road with other users the people in "competitions" do not. They ride 3 or 4 abreast on small roads, bunch up into groups of 20 to 40 bikes making it very dangerous to overtake and basically force you to drive at less than half the rate you are legally allowed to whilst wiggling their lycra clad arses in your face. Add to that the dangerous cutting of corners and getting dangerously close to pedestrians and you have a serious problem. Any attempt to ask them politely to move over is met with anger, abuse and on several occasions attempting to spit through my window. I have, on several occasions, been overtaking a group of 20 or so of these people only for the guys at the front to move out to take over the entire breadth of the road, beeping of the horn to alert them of my presence is met with slowing down and attempting to box in my car, whilst swearing profusely!! One day these people will meet the wrong driver and then be complaining to the police that they were run over, and they will have no sympathy from me.[/p][/quote]The reason some of these cyclists may move into the centre of the lane (primary position) when you attempt to overtake is most likely to be found in this artcle: http://www.motoring. co.uk/car-news/cycli sts-why-do-they-ride -in-the-middle-of-th e-road-_62617[/p][/quote]In my examples and experience they are not "moving over to take primary position" they are moving over to be arseholes. After all primary position is the middle of the LANE not completely the opposite side of the road spread 3, 4 or 5 bikes wide, which is what happens in the situations where I am "boxed in".[/p][/quote]Boxing in of cars is a practice that is done by some "braver cyclists" in order to contain a driver that is dangerous, stupid or reckless. I contains a moron before they can harm anyone. "Boxed in" a lot? Gooby!
  • Score: -2

2:37pm Thu 17 Jul 14

Kamikazi says...

Gooby! wrote:
Kamikazi wrote:
Top_Gear wrote:
Kamikazi wrote:
Whilst most cyclist in the Forrest respect that they have to share the road with other users the people in "competitions" do not. They ride 3 or 4 abreast on small roads, bunch up into groups of 20 to 40 bikes making it very dangerous to overtake and basically force you to drive at less than half the rate you are legally allowed to whilst wiggling their lycra clad arses in your face. Add to that the dangerous cutting of corners and getting dangerously close to pedestrians and you have a serious problem. Any attempt to ask them politely to move over is met with anger, abuse and on several occasions attempting to spit through my window. I have, on several occasions, been overtaking a group of 20 or so of these people only for the guys at the front to move out to take over the entire breadth of the road, beeping of the horn to alert them of my presence is met with slowing down and attempting to box in my car, whilst swearing profusely!! One day these people will meet the wrong driver and then be complaining to the police that they were run over, and they will have no sympathy from me.
The reason some of these cyclists may move into the centre of the lane (primary position) when you attempt to overtake is most likely to be found in this artcle:
http://www.motoring.



co.uk/car-news/cycli



sts-why-do-they-ride



-in-the-middle-of-th



e-road-_62617
In my examples and experience they are not "moving over to take primary position" they are moving over to be arseholes. After all primary position is the middle of the LANE not completely the opposite side of the road spread 3, 4 or 5 bikes wide, which is what happens in the situations where I am "boxed in".
Boxing in of cars is a practice that is done by some "braver cyclists" in order to contain a driver that is dangerous, stupid or reckless. I contains a moron before they can harm anyone.

"Boxed in" a lot?
Ho hum, I guess there is no sensible discussion to be had with cyclists is there?

The mentality of some of you is just crazy (trying to stop a 1400Kg car with a bike for heavens sake!). I am travelling on the opposite side of the road as far over as I can get in order to pass, then the cyclists at the end of the group of 30 or 40 cyclists decide to get in the way and "box me in" because I am somehow being dangerous in their eyes? (even though I am not and any perception of danger is purely as a result of them travelling too close to each other for the speed they are doing and wanting to swerve around each other without warning or indication)

I think that calls for an end to my participation in this discussion as quite honestly you people (militant cyclists) are only a menace to yourselves and it is only yourselves that will get hurt, and you are unwilling to listen to the other sides of the story. I can only hope that the next time you try to box someone in they don't stop, if you are killed and they are convicted then that's at least 2 less idiots on the road for the rest of us to have to deal with.

Let the down votes commence.
[quote][p][bold]Gooby![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Kamikazi[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Top_Gear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Kamikazi[/bold] wrote: Whilst most cyclist in the Forrest respect that they have to share the road with other users the people in "competitions" do not. They ride 3 or 4 abreast on small roads, bunch up into groups of 20 to 40 bikes making it very dangerous to overtake and basically force you to drive at less than half the rate you are legally allowed to whilst wiggling their lycra clad arses in your face. Add to that the dangerous cutting of corners and getting dangerously close to pedestrians and you have a serious problem. Any attempt to ask them politely to move over is met with anger, abuse and on several occasions attempting to spit through my window. I have, on several occasions, been overtaking a group of 20 or so of these people only for the guys at the front to move out to take over the entire breadth of the road, beeping of the horn to alert them of my presence is met with slowing down and attempting to box in my car, whilst swearing profusely!! One day these people will meet the wrong driver and then be complaining to the police that they were run over, and they will have no sympathy from me.[/p][/quote]The reason some of these cyclists may move into the centre of the lane (primary position) when you attempt to overtake is most likely to be found in this artcle: http://www.motoring. co.uk/car-news/cycli sts-why-do-they-ride -in-the-middle-of-th e-road-_62617[/p][/quote]In my examples and experience they are not "moving over to take primary position" they are moving over to be arseholes. After all primary position is the middle of the LANE not completely the opposite side of the road spread 3, 4 or 5 bikes wide, which is what happens in the situations where I am "boxed in".[/p][/quote]Boxing in of cars is a practice that is done by some "braver cyclists" in order to contain a driver that is dangerous, stupid or reckless. I contains a moron before they can harm anyone. "Boxed in" a lot?[/p][/quote]Ho hum, I guess there is no sensible discussion to be had with cyclists is there? The mentality of some of you is just crazy (trying to stop a 1400Kg car with a bike for heavens sake!). I am travelling on the opposite side of the road as far over as I can get in order to pass, then the cyclists at the end of the group of 30 or 40 cyclists decide to get in the way and "box me in" because I am somehow being dangerous in their eyes? (even though I am not and any perception of danger is purely as a result of them travelling too close to each other for the speed they are doing and wanting to swerve around each other without warning or indication) I think that calls for an end to my participation in this discussion as quite honestly you people (militant cyclists) are only a menace to yourselves and it is only yourselves that will get hurt, and you are unwilling to listen to the other sides of the story. I can only hope that the next time you try to box someone in they don't stop, if you are killed and they are convicted then that's at least 2 less idiots on the road for the rest of us to have to deal with. Let the down votes commence. Kamikazi
  • Score: -1

3:51pm Thu 17 Jul 14

Arthur Maureen says...

Kamikazi wrote:
Gooby! wrote:
Kamikazi wrote:
Top_Gear wrote:
Kamikazi wrote:
Whilst most cyclist in the Forrest respect that they have to share the road with other users the people in "competitions" do not. They ride 3 or 4 abreast on small roads, bunch up into groups of 20 to 40 bikes making it very dangerous to overtake and basically force you to drive at less than half the rate you are legally allowed to whilst wiggling their lycra clad arses in your face. Add to that the dangerous cutting of corners and getting dangerously close to pedestrians and you have a serious problem. Any attempt to ask them politely to move over is met with anger, abuse and on several occasions attempting to spit through my window. I have, on several occasions, been overtaking a group of 20 or so of these people only for the guys at the front to move out to take over the entire breadth of the road, beeping of the horn to alert them of my presence is met with slowing down and attempting to box in my car, whilst swearing profusely!! One day these people will meet the wrong driver and then be complaining to the police that they were run over, and they will have no sympathy from me.
The reason some of these cyclists may move into the centre of the lane (primary position) when you attempt to overtake is most likely to be found in this artcle:
http://www.motoring.




co.uk/car-news/cycli




sts-why-do-they-ride




-in-the-middle-of-th




e-road-_62617
In my examples and experience they are not "moving over to take primary position" they are moving over to be arseholes. After all primary position is the middle of the LANE not completely the opposite side of the road spread 3, 4 or 5 bikes wide, which is what happens in the situations where I am "boxed in".
Boxing in of cars is a practice that is done by some "braver cyclists" in order to contain a driver that is dangerous, stupid or reckless. I contains a moron before they can harm anyone.

"Boxed in" a lot?
Ho hum, I guess there is no sensible discussion to be had with cyclists is there?

The mentality of some of you is just crazy (trying to stop a 1400Kg car with a bike for heavens sake!). I am travelling on the opposite side of the road as far over as I can get in order to pass, then the cyclists at the end of the group of 30 or 40 cyclists decide to get in the way and "box me in" because I am somehow being dangerous in their eyes? (even though I am not and any perception of danger is purely as a result of them travelling too close to each other for the speed they are doing and wanting to swerve around each other without warning or indication)

I think that calls for an end to my participation in this discussion as quite honestly you people (militant cyclists) are only a menace to yourselves and it is only yourselves that will get hurt, and you are unwilling to listen to the other sides of the story. I can only hope that the next time you try to box someone in they don't stop, if you are killed and they are convicted then that's at least 2 less idiots on the road for the rest of us to have to deal with.

Let the down votes commence.
You seem to be on some kind of mission to find crazed cyclist who are intent on annoying you !! very few like that, speaking as a cyclist / motorist before you ask.. oh and I pay road tax, blah, blah, blah.. I've never boxed anyone in myself, too busy minding my own business, enjoying a spin on the bike and hoping others do the same..
[quote][p][bold]Kamikazi[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Gooby![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Kamikazi[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Top_Gear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Kamikazi[/bold] wrote: Whilst most cyclist in the Forrest respect that they have to share the road with other users the people in "competitions" do not. They ride 3 or 4 abreast on small roads, bunch up into groups of 20 to 40 bikes making it very dangerous to overtake and basically force you to drive at less than half the rate you are legally allowed to whilst wiggling their lycra clad arses in your face. Add to that the dangerous cutting of corners and getting dangerously close to pedestrians and you have a serious problem. Any attempt to ask them politely to move over is met with anger, abuse and on several occasions attempting to spit through my window. I have, on several occasions, been overtaking a group of 20 or so of these people only for the guys at the front to move out to take over the entire breadth of the road, beeping of the horn to alert them of my presence is met with slowing down and attempting to box in my car, whilst swearing profusely!! One day these people will meet the wrong driver and then be complaining to the police that they were run over, and they will have no sympathy from me.[/p][/quote]The reason some of these cyclists may move into the centre of the lane (primary position) when you attempt to overtake is most likely to be found in this artcle: http://www.motoring. co.uk/car-news/cycli sts-why-do-they-ride -in-the-middle-of-th e-road-_62617[/p][/quote]In my examples and experience they are not "moving over to take primary position" they are moving over to be arseholes. After all primary position is the middle of the LANE not completely the opposite side of the road spread 3, 4 or 5 bikes wide, which is what happens in the situations where I am "boxed in".[/p][/quote]Boxing in of cars is a practice that is done by some "braver cyclists" in order to contain a driver that is dangerous, stupid or reckless. I contains a moron before they can harm anyone. "Boxed in" a lot?[/p][/quote]Ho hum, I guess there is no sensible discussion to be had with cyclists is there? The mentality of some of you is just crazy (trying to stop a 1400Kg car with a bike for heavens sake!). I am travelling on the opposite side of the road as far over as I can get in order to pass, then the cyclists at the end of the group of 30 or 40 cyclists decide to get in the way and "box me in" because I am somehow being dangerous in their eyes? (even though I am not and any perception of danger is purely as a result of them travelling too close to each other for the speed they are doing and wanting to swerve around each other without warning or indication) I think that calls for an end to my participation in this discussion as quite honestly you people (militant cyclists) are only a menace to yourselves and it is only yourselves that will get hurt, and you are unwilling to listen to the other sides of the story. I can only hope that the next time you try to box someone in they don't stop, if you are killed and they are convicted then that's at least 2 less idiots on the road for the rest of us to have to deal with. Let the down votes commence.[/p][/quote]You seem to be on some kind of mission to find crazed cyclist who are intent on annoying you !! very few like that, speaking as a cyclist / motorist before you ask.. oh and I pay road tax, blah, blah, blah.. I've never boxed anyone in myself, too busy minding my own business, enjoying a spin on the bike and hoping others do the same.. Arthur Maureen
  • Score: 0

4:51pm Thu 17 Jul 14

inteligentlady2 says...

Dave2207 wrote:
Traffic jams are common enough in this area, without slow-moving cyclists making things worse. They should be compelled to ride single-file, close to the kerb.
Yes, you should be organising these events!

All the cyclists should have to ride single file, all reach the finish line at the same time and call it a draw....oh, wait....
[quote][p][bold]Dave2207[/bold] wrote: Traffic jams are common enough in this area, without slow-moving cyclists making things worse. They should be compelled to ride single-file, close to the kerb.[/p][/quote]Yes, you should be organising these events! All the cyclists should have to ride single file, all reach the finish line at the same time and call it a draw....oh, wait.... inteligentlady2
  • Score: -1

11:36pm Thu 17 Jul 14

wadjit says...

Honestly, how can people be against any sports event that gives pleasure to many and promotes such good values? Some people may have to drive slower on a particular day and they react with such venom against a cycling event! I can not understand the mentality of these people, as if driving a car is a absolute right. Have some people lost their minds?
Honestly, how can people be against any sports event that gives pleasure to many and promotes such good values? Some people may have to drive slower on a particular day and they react with such venom against a cycling event! I can not understand the mentality of these people, as if driving a car is a absolute right. Have some people lost their minds? wadjit
  • Score: -2

8:30am Sun 20 Jul 14

newforestbloke says...

wadjit wrote:
Honestly, how can people be against any sports event that gives pleasure to many and promotes such good values? Some people may have to drive slower on a particular day and they react with such venom against a cycling event! I can not understand the mentality of these people, as if driving a car is a absolute right. Have some people lost their minds?
I'm beginning to think that cycling for some is taking on aspects of fundementalist religion in that its disciples believe they are totally right and everytone else totally in the wrong

What is the New Forest most famous for? the free ranging ponies and scenery.

Many driving on the New Forest are diong soi because they either live or work on it. Do you have a job or run a business? Then maybe you would realise the necessity to turn up at your place of work punctually and reliably

Do you know anything about livestock? The Forest has farms, agriculture, equestrian etc and those involved do not have the option to take the day off and neglect their animals

What about the elderly? The New forest has a large population of retired for many of them a career is their lifeline. Again a carer does not have the option of bveing late or failing to turn up when due to do so

As yoiu are so anti car I trust as you attend the starting point for the next event you will spread the message of "two wheels good, four wheels bad" but presumably cars carrying bikes have a special dispensation
[quote][p][bold]wadjit[/bold] wrote: Honestly, how can people be against any sports event that gives pleasure to many and promotes such good values? Some people may have to drive slower on a particular day and they react with such venom against a cycling event! I can not understand the mentality of these people, as if driving a car is a absolute right. Have some people lost their minds?[/p][/quote]I'm beginning to think that cycling for some is taking on aspects of fundementalist religion in that its disciples believe they are totally right and everytone else totally in the wrong What is the New Forest most famous for? the free ranging ponies and scenery. Many driving on the New Forest are diong soi because they either live or work on it. Do you have a job or run a business? Then maybe you would realise the necessity to turn up at your place of work punctually and reliably Do you know anything about livestock? The Forest has farms, agriculture, equestrian etc and those involved do not have the option to take the day off and neglect their animals What about the elderly? The New forest has a large population of retired for many of them a career is their lifeline. Again a carer does not have the option of bveing late or failing to turn up when due to do so As yoiu are so anti car I trust as you attend the starting point for the next event you will spread the message of "two wheels good, four wheels bad" but presumably cars carrying bikes have a special dispensation newforestbloke
  • Score: 1

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