Winter Gardens developers ask: what would you like to see at proposed leisure complex?

CONSULTATION: Members of the public look over plans for a new Winter Gardens scheme

CONSULTATION: Members of the public look over plans for a new Winter Gardens scheme

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DEVELOPERS hoping to build on Bournemouth’s Winter Gardens site have asked residents to tell them what leisure attraction they would like to see there.

The plans have been criticised by Save the Odeon Cinema campaigners, who fear they will include a “bland multiplex cinema”.

But applicants Inland Ltd said they had not yet decided whether the scheme would include a cinema or some other leisure attraction.

Their plans are for a mixed-use scheme that will combine leisure, commercial, a hotel, flats and a public car park.

Mark Gilpin, planning director for Inland, said: “Some people have expressed concerns with the mix of uses. This is something that we cannot avoid as the council’s own policy is for a mixed-use scheme including a range commercial, residential and leisure aspects.

“There has also been some discussion about the operator of the leisure part of the site. It is important to reassure local residents that no final decision has been made regarding the leisure uses. This may or may not include a new multiplex cinema.

“What it is proposed to be is a family-oriented leisure scheme designed to provide all-year-round entertainment for visitors and the present community, with greatly improved and safer public access, creating a new pedestrian-friendly environment to Exeter Road as well as helping the council to bring forward its Grand Garden Walk initiative. We must however await the decision of the planning board on our application.

“We took very useful suggestions from local residents at the exhibition as regards to what they would like to see as a leisure provision.

“We hope to make further announcements about the type of leisure provision decided on the site in due course.”

Any local resident who would like to make a suggestion as to what leisure attraction should be built on the site should email csharp@hardhat.co.uk

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6:27am Thu 17 Jul 14

Tango Charlie says...

We still need an ice rink. There are enough cinemas already.
We still need an ice rink. There are enough cinemas already. Tango Charlie
  • Score: 10

7:12am Thu 17 Jul 14

kalebmoledirt says...

A 33 story sports tower similar to the Mitchell nob that will never be built a 99p shop roller skating rink And more cheap night clubs .for goodness sake don't consider a world class museum and art gallery .
A 33 story sports tower similar to the Mitchell nob that will never be built a 99p shop roller skating rink And more cheap night clubs .for goodness sake don't consider a world class museum and art gallery . kalebmoledirt
  • Score: 7

7:53am Thu 17 Jul 14

The-Bleeding-Obvious says...

A concert hall?
A concert hall? The-Bleeding-Obvious
  • Score: 12

8:06am Thu 17 Jul 14

susi.m says...

Nothing.
Its good to have some open space without high rise buildings jammed on it, even if , at present, it is just a carpark with some trees round it.
Nothing. Its good to have some open space without high rise buildings jammed on it, even if , at present, it is just a carpark with some trees round it. susi.m
  • Score: 4

8:11am Thu 17 Jul 14

Bournefre says...

From what people keep saying there is a clear need in Bournemouth for an attraction which so far nobody has been able to identify, although it has a clear list of criteria:
It must be accessible
It must be suitable for all weathers
It must be suitable for all ages
It must be reasonably priced
It must be for residents and visitors alike
It must appeal to all interests
It must be profitable
It must be revolutionary
It must be wholesome
It must be something the town can be proud of.

So far it seems the best anyone can come up with is 'swimming pool or ice rink'.
From what people keep saying there is a clear need in Bournemouth for an attraction which so far nobody has been able to identify, although it has a clear list of criteria: It must be accessible It must be suitable for all weathers It must be suitable for all ages It must be reasonably priced It must be for residents and visitors alike It must appeal to all interests It must be profitable It must be revolutionary It must be wholesome It must be something the town can be proud of. So far it seems the best anyone can come up with is 'swimming pool or ice rink'. Bournefre
  • Score: 4

8:42am Thu 17 Jul 14

BarrHumbug says...

How's about a Surf machine and an Imax cinema, they are such an obvious choice I can't believe it hasn't been thought of before?
How's about a Surf machine and an Imax cinema, they are such an obvious choice I can't believe it hasn't been thought of before? BarrHumbug
  • Score: 11

9:23am Thu 17 Jul 14

esquisquirrel says...

A wind farm
A wind farm esquisquirrel
  • Score: 1

9:24am Thu 17 Jul 14

Holdenhurst says...

Tango Charlie wrote:
We still need an ice rink. There are enough cinemas already.
I disagree. I feel that Bournemouth is lacking a decent independent / art house type cinema. The two Odeons only show the larger releases.

Also I would welcome a small music venue akin to The Joiners Arms in Southampton or The Wedgewood Rooms in Portsmouth.
[quote][p][bold]Tango Charlie[/bold] wrote: We still need an ice rink. There are enough cinemas already.[/p][/quote]I disagree. I feel that Bournemouth is lacking a decent independent / art house type cinema. The two Odeons only show the larger releases. Also I would welcome a small music venue akin to The Joiners Arms in Southampton or The Wedgewood Rooms in Portsmouth. Holdenhurst
  • Score: 9

9:29am Thu 17 Jul 14

Glashen says...

A domed greenhouse something like the Eden project with a Dinosaur theme walk and visitor centre. It fits in with the Jurrasic coast and with Bournemouth's existing gardens, it would be popular and could be pitched at a reasonable cost level whilst permitting ancillary restaurants etc.,
A domed greenhouse something like the Eden project with a Dinosaur theme walk and visitor centre. It fits in with the Jurrasic coast and with Bournemouth's existing gardens, it would be popular and could be pitched at a reasonable cost level whilst permitting ancillary restaurants etc., Glashen
  • Score: 3

9:29am Thu 17 Jul 14

TheDistrict says...

Firstly, not a cinema. Westover Road is sufficient, we need not more cinemas. What we do need is an all weather facility, and not like the idiotic facility that replaced the Pier Theatre. Something that the people of Bournemouth wanted in place of the IMAX, which the Beesley Council bought to demolish, and then replace it with a stupid open air stage, that is only good in good weather!!!

Finally, no clubs or pubs, there is enough in the town centre. An Ice Rink would be good, and retain a number of skaters who travel to other towns for the sport.

And please do not take advice from Bournemouth Beesley Council.
Firstly, not a cinema. Westover Road is sufficient, we need not more cinemas. What we do need is an all weather facility, and not like the idiotic facility that replaced the Pier Theatre. Something that the people of Bournemouth wanted in place of the IMAX, which the Beesley Council bought to demolish, and then replace it with a stupid open air stage, that is only good in good weather!!! Finally, no clubs or pubs, there is enough in the town centre. An Ice Rink would be good, and retain a number of skaters who travel to other towns for the sport. And please do not take advice from Bournemouth Beesley Council. TheDistrict
  • Score: 1

9:41am Thu 17 Jul 14

Extreme25 says...

It would be nice to have a swimming pool in Central Bournemouth. The one in the BIC should never have been closed all those yrs ago to be turned into another room that is never used in the BIC.
It would be nice to have a swimming pool in Central Bournemouth. The one in the BIC should never have been closed all those yrs ago to be turned into another room that is never used in the BIC. Extreme25
  • Score: 15

9:47am Thu 17 Jul 14

dorsetgills says...

Glashen wrote:
A domed greenhouse something like the Eden project with a Dinosaur theme walk and visitor centre. It fits in with the Jurrasic coast and with Bournemouth's existing gardens, it would be popular and could be pitched at a reasonable cost level whilst permitting ancillary restaurants etc.,
There's one going to be built in Portland
[quote][p][bold]Glashen[/bold] wrote: A domed greenhouse something like the Eden project with a Dinosaur theme walk and visitor centre. It fits in with the Jurrasic coast and with Bournemouth's existing gardens, it would be popular and could be pitched at a reasonable cost level whilst permitting ancillary restaurants etc.,[/p][/quote]There's one going to be built in Portland dorsetgills
  • Score: 4

9:49am Thu 17 Jul 14

Holdenhurst says...

Glashen wrote:
A domed greenhouse something like the Eden project with a Dinosaur theme walk and visitor centre. It fits in with the Jurrasic coast and with Bournemouth's existing gardens, it would be popular and could be pitched at a reasonable cost level whilst permitting ancillary restaurants etc.,
It's a great idea. However an identical project has already been proposed for a disused quarry on the Isle of Portland: -

http://en.wikipedia.
org/wiki/Jurassica
[quote][p][bold]Glashen[/bold] wrote: A domed greenhouse something like the Eden project with a Dinosaur theme walk and visitor centre. It fits in with the Jurrasic coast and with Bournemouth's existing gardens, it would be popular and could be pitched at a reasonable cost level whilst permitting ancillary restaurants etc.,[/p][/quote]It's a great idea. However an identical project has already been proposed for a disused quarry on the Isle of Portland: - http://en.wikipedia. org/wiki/Jurassica Holdenhurst
  • Score: 1

9:54am Thu 17 Jul 14

dorsetgills says...

Seeing as the pier is an extreme zone how about an indoor ski slope and a sky diving chamber
Seeing as the pier is an extreme zone how about an indoor ski slope and a sky diving chamber dorsetgills
  • Score: 7

9:59am Thu 17 Jul 14

calvus says...

Check out Pavilion Dance South West on a Monday evening for World and Art House cinema.
Check out Pavilion Dance South West on a Monday evening for World and Art House cinema. calvus
  • Score: 5

10:08am Thu 17 Jul 14

BmthNewshound says...

Tango Charlie wrote:
We still need an ice rink. There are enough cinemas already.
It would be nice to see something cultural like a gallery, specialist museum (say exploring the history of the UK seaside resort) or small concert venue for classical music, jazz - a little oasis of civilisation where you can get respite from the brash commercial excesses of Bournemouths downward spiral to tacky oblivion.
.
But I won't hold my breath as the chance that anything vaguely cultural being built is about as likely as Labour winning overall control of Bournemouth Borough Council in next years local election.
[quote][p][bold]Tango Charlie[/bold] wrote: We still need an ice rink. There are enough cinemas already.[/p][/quote]It would be nice to see something cultural like a gallery, specialist museum (say exploring the history of the UK seaside resort) or small concert venue for classical music, jazz - a little oasis of civilisation where you can get respite from the brash commercial excesses of Bournemouths downward spiral to tacky oblivion. . But I won't hold my breath as the chance that anything vaguely cultural being built is about as likely as Labour winning overall control of Bournemouth Borough Council in next years local election. BmthNewshound
  • Score: 4

10:09am Thu 17 Jul 14

bobthedestroyer says...

Ice rink ice rink ice rink
Ice rink ice rink ice rink bobthedestroyer
  • Score: -4

10:18am Thu 17 Jul 14

Bombay fish shop says...

How about an ice rink with the heat generated from the refrigeration unit used to heat a swimming pool.
How about an ice rink with the heat generated from the refrigeration unit used to heat a swimming pool. Bombay fish shop
  • Score: 4

10:36am Thu 17 Jul 14

jquain says...

A Cineworld cinema with free car parking. The current Odeon is overpriced and with uncomfortable seating with no legroom. With Cineworld you can pay approx. £15 a month and go as many times as you like.

I feel that if an ice rink was profitable somebody would of built one by now.

Perhaps some sort of water park similar to Splashdown might be a good idea. Especially if it had some sort of retractable roof to allow it to be open air when the weather is good. Although I don't know how feasible that would be.
A Cineworld cinema with free car parking. The current Odeon is overpriced and with uncomfortable seating with no legroom. With Cineworld you can pay approx. £15 a month and go as many times as you like. I feel that if an ice rink was profitable somebody would of built one by now. Perhaps some sort of water park similar to Splashdown might be a good idea. Especially if it had some sort of retractable roof to allow it to be open air when the weather is good. Although I don't know how feasible that would be. jquain
  • Score: 6

10:38am Thu 17 Jul 14

Branksome snail says...

there is no point having a "Save the Odeon Cinema" campaign if they themselves want to move?
I thought they had put their weight behind the NPC car park scheme anyway?
there is no point having a "Save the Odeon Cinema" campaign if they themselves want to move? I thought they had put their weight behind the NPC car park scheme anyway? Branksome snail
  • Score: 0

11:03am Thu 17 Jul 14

greeneb says...

An ice rink would be awesome something that is fun and involves exercise, if you build one please make it able to accommodate a ice hockey pitch as that could be a good attraction over time.
Like the idea of a Bournemouth/ Seaside Museum but it has to be interactive and up to a similar standard as the ones in London to engage the young people not just some pictures on a wall that would be a complete waste of time.
An ice rink would be awesome something that is fun and involves exercise, if you build one please make it able to accommodate a ice hockey pitch as that could be a good attraction over time. Like the idea of a Bournemouth/ Seaside Museum but it has to be interactive and up to a similar standard as the ones in London to engage the young people not just some pictures on a wall that would be a complete waste of time. greeneb
  • Score: 2

11:05am Thu 17 Jul 14

greeneb says...

An Ice rink would be awesome but please make it able to host Ice hockey so Bournemouth could have a national team over time. I like the idea of a Museum of Bournemouth or seaside life but it has to be interactive and up to London standards to engage the kids not just a space with some pictures
An Ice rink would be awesome but please make it able to host Ice hockey so Bournemouth could have a national team over time. I like the idea of a Museum of Bournemouth or seaside life but it has to be interactive and up to London standards to engage the kids not just a space with some pictures greeneb
  • Score: 1

11:22am Thu 17 Jul 14

muscliffman says...

The commercial developers will put up whatever they think will make them the maximum amount of money and be approved by our Council.

Nobody's opinion matters a jot outside those two aims!
The commercial developers will put up whatever they think will make them the maximum amount of money and be approved by our Council. Nobody's opinion matters a jot outside those two aims! muscliffman
  • Score: 8

11:44am Thu 17 Jul 14

BarrHumbug says...

At the rate the council are developing on the existing car parks and with the cost of the existing ones no attraction is going to work unless you can provide a first class and cheap Park and Ride solution?
At the rate the council are developing on the existing car parks and with the cost of the existing ones no attraction is going to work unless you can provide a first class and cheap Park and Ride solution? BarrHumbug
  • Score: 5

1:16pm Thu 17 Jul 14

fartycat says...

How about, I don't know, a concert hall or at least a space that can be used for concerts.
How about, I don't know, a concert hall or at least a space that can be used for concerts. fartycat
  • Score: 4

2:13pm Thu 17 Jul 14

Sagacity says...

On the Winter Gardens site there should be an Arts Centre similar to the Lighthouse in Poole. It should have a concert hall with a stage large enough to accommodate the BSO. The Exeter Road site should be a bus station with a John Lewis department store above it. The site by the side of the Pavilion should have a swimming pool on the ground floor and an ice rink above. All three sites to include multi story car parking. The cinemas should stay where they are in Westover Road.
With all this Bournemouth could once again claim to be the UK's leading resort.
On the Winter Gardens site there should be an Arts Centre similar to the Lighthouse in Poole. It should have a concert hall with a stage large enough to accommodate the BSO. The Exeter Road site should be a bus station with a John Lewis department store above it. The site by the side of the Pavilion should have a swimming pool on the ground floor and an ice rink above. All three sites to include multi story car parking. The cinemas should stay where they are in Westover Road. With all this Bournemouth could once again claim to be the UK's leading resort. Sagacity
  • Score: 7

2:52pm Thu 17 Jul 14

speedy231278 says...

Tango Charlie wrote:
We still need an ice rink. There are enough cinemas already.
Why do we 'need' an ice rink? What we 'need' is better public transport, not another white elephant!
[quote][p][bold]Tango Charlie[/bold] wrote: We still need an ice rink. There are enough cinemas already.[/p][/quote]Why do we 'need' an ice rink? What we 'need' is better public transport, not another white elephant! speedy231278
  • Score: -1

2:53pm Thu 17 Jul 14

speedy231278 says...

Extreme25 wrote:
It would be nice to have a swimming pool in Central Bournemouth. The one in the BIC should never have been closed all those yrs ago to be turned into another room that is never used in the BIC.
Are miles of beach not good enough?
[quote][p][bold]Extreme25[/bold] wrote: It would be nice to have a swimming pool in Central Bournemouth. The one in the BIC should never have been closed all those yrs ago to be turned into another room that is never used in the BIC.[/p][/quote]Are miles of beach not good enough? speedy231278
  • Score: -3

3:04pm Thu 17 Jul 14

speedy231278 says...

On this site, I would like to see something that S+D won't have their fingers in.

So, what DON'T we have in the middle of Bournemouth?

A decent butcher.
A decent baker.
A decent fruit and veg shop.
A decent fishmonger.
A decent restaurant.
A proper post office.

Everything is all about what could be done for tourism. What about the full time residents of the place? we're not all students who just want to be constantly drunk and live off microwave meals and junk food from Tesco or Lidl! As best I can tell, the closest proper shops (ie not supermarkets) where you can buy fruit, veg and meat are in Westbourne or Winton. We are surrounded with coffee shops, Tesco Express, Tesco Metro, Polish shops, Asian traders, junk shops, a plethora of restaurants providing a host of oversea cuisine (many of which are very good), but what about those of us who would also appreciate something a little more traditional too? I love a good curry and a nice pizza, but I like English grub too. Where can I get that apart from the microwaved crap from a 'spoons or similar? Where can I go to get my choice cut of meat or fish rather than out of a vacuum pack, or some local fruit and veg rather than air freighted stuff past it's best at Tesco (aside from the erratically open and not open stand in the square) ? Answer, bloody miles away because we're focussed on students and tourists.

How about giving something back to your rate payers, BBC?
On this site, I would like to see something that S+D won't have their fingers in. So, what DON'T we have in the middle of Bournemouth? A decent butcher. A decent baker. A decent fruit and veg shop. A decent fishmonger. A decent restaurant. A proper post office. Everything is all about what could be done for tourism. What about the full time residents of the place? we're not all students who just want to be constantly drunk and live off microwave meals and junk food from Tesco or Lidl! As best I can tell, the closest proper shops (ie not supermarkets) where you can buy fruit, veg and meat are in Westbourne or Winton. We are surrounded with coffee shops, Tesco Express, Tesco Metro, Polish shops, Asian traders, junk shops, a plethora of restaurants providing a host of oversea cuisine (many of which are very good), but what about those of us who would also appreciate something a little more traditional too? I love a good curry and a nice pizza, but I like English grub too. Where can I get that apart from the microwaved crap from a 'spoons or similar? Where can I go to get my choice cut of meat or fish rather than out of a vacuum pack, or some local fruit and veg rather than air freighted stuff past it's best at Tesco (aside from the erratically open and not open stand in the square) ? Answer, bloody miles away because we're focussed on students and tourists. How about giving something back to your rate payers, BBC? speedy231278
  • Score: 5

3:30pm Thu 17 Jul 14

BarrHumbug says...

fartycat wrote:
How about, I don't know, a concert hall or at least a space that can be used for concerts.
I understand the BIC and Pavilion hold such events?
[quote][p][bold]fartycat[/bold] wrote: How about, I don't know, a concert hall or at least a space that can be used for concerts.[/p][/quote]I understand the BIC and Pavilion hold such events? BarrHumbug
  • Score: 4

3:47pm Thu 17 Jul 14

ragj195 says...

jquain wrote:
A Cineworld cinema with free car parking. The current Odeon is overpriced and with uncomfortable seating with no legroom. With Cineworld you can pay approx. £15 a month and go as many times as you like.

I feel that if an ice rink was profitable somebody would of built one by now.

Perhaps some sort of water park similar to Splashdown might be a good idea. Especially if it had some sort of retractable roof to allow it to be open air when the weather is good. Although I don't know how feasible that would be.
Well said. The current cinemas are grubby and run down. Families who go to the cinema often want to eat out also, spending up to £60 a time. Like it or not they are the target market when it comes to profit and that market is currently going to Tower Park which is a huge loss to the town center.

Whether it's this site or another as long as Westover Rd remains our cinema hub people will continue to go to Tower Pk. The water park also sounds like an interesting idea especially the roof concept.
[quote][p][bold]jquain[/bold] wrote: A Cineworld cinema with free car parking. The current Odeon is overpriced and with uncomfortable seating with no legroom. With Cineworld you can pay approx. £15 a month and go as many times as you like. I feel that if an ice rink was profitable somebody would of built one by now. Perhaps some sort of water park similar to Splashdown might be a good idea. Especially if it had some sort of retractable roof to allow it to be open air when the weather is good. Although I don't know how feasible that would be.[/p][/quote]Well said. The current cinemas are grubby and run down. Families who go to the cinema often want to eat out also, spending up to £60 a time. Like it or not they are the target market when it comes to profit and that market is currently going to Tower Park which is a huge loss to the town center. Whether it's this site or another as long as Westover Rd remains our cinema hub people will continue to go to Tower Pk. The water park also sounds like an interesting idea especially the roof concept. ragj195
  • Score: 3

3:54pm Thu 17 Jul 14

ANON2015 says...

THE CLUES IN THE NAME. IT SHOULD BE A WINTER GARDEN DEVELOPMENT LITERALLY THE BEST IN THE UK. SUCH AS SHEFFIELD WINTER GARDENS WITH BOTANICAL GARDENS, MIXED WITH ENTERTAINMENT SUCH AS BLACKPOOL WINTER GARDENS FOR THOS WHO LIKE MUSIC AND CONCERTS, BSO AND APPEAL TO KIDS ALSO AND REACH TO THE YOUTH. IT SHOULD BE A SPACE WHICH COMBINES A SMALL MUSEUM AND ARTS FACILITIES EXHIBITION SPACE LINKED TO THE TOWNS UNIVERSITIES AND GARDENS TO CREATE A STUNNING VISITOR ATTRACTION IN THE HEART OF THE BEST TOWN IN THE UK ALL YEAR ROUND. THIS IS NOT HARD!
THE CLUES IN THE NAME. IT SHOULD BE A WINTER GARDEN DEVELOPMENT LITERALLY THE BEST IN THE UK. SUCH AS SHEFFIELD WINTER GARDENS WITH BOTANICAL GARDENS, MIXED WITH ENTERTAINMENT SUCH AS BLACKPOOL WINTER GARDENS FOR THOS WHO LIKE MUSIC AND CONCERTS, BSO AND APPEAL TO KIDS ALSO AND REACH TO THE YOUTH. IT SHOULD BE A SPACE WHICH COMBINES A SMALL MUSEUM AND ARTS FACILITIES EXHIBITION SPACE LINKED TO THE TOWNS UNIVERSITIES AND GARDENS TO CREATE A STUNNING VISITOR ATTRACTION IN THE HEART OF THE BEST TOWN IN THE UK ALL YEAR ROUND. THIS IS NOT HARD! ANON2015
  • Score: 0

3:56pm Thu 17 Jul 14

ragj195 says...

ANON2015 wrote:
THE CLUES IN THE NAME. IT SHOULD BE A WINTER GARDEN DEVELOPMENT LITERALLY THE BEST IN THE UK. SUCH AS SHEFFIELD WINTER GARDENS WITH BOTANICAL GARDENS, MIXED WITH ENTERTAINMENT SUCH AS BLACKPOOL WINTER GARDENS FOR THOS WHO LIKE MUSIC AND CONCERTS, BSO AND APPEAL TO KIDS ALSO AND REACH TO THE YOUTH. IT SHOULD BE A SPACE WHICH COMBINES A SMALL MUSEUM AND ARTS FACILITIES EXHIBITION SPACE LINKED TO THE TOWNS UNIVERSITIES AND GARDENS TO CREATE A STUNNING VISITOR ATTRACTION IN THE HEART OF THE BEST TOWN IN THE UK ALL YEAR ROUND. THIS IS NOT HARD!
Pressing caps lock isn't either.
[quote][p][bold]ANON2015[/bold] wrote: THE CLUES IN THE NAME. IT SHOULD BE A WINTER GARDEN DEVELOPMENT LITERALLY THE BEST IN THE UK. SUCH AS SHEFFIELD WINTER GARDENS WITH BOTANICAL GARDENS, MIXED WITH ENTERTAINMENT SUCH AS BLACKPOOL WINTER GARDENS FOR THOS WHO LIKE MUSIC AND CONCERTS, BSO AND APPEAL TO KIDS ALSO AND REACH TO THE YOUTH. IT SHOULD BE A SPACE WHICH COMBINES A SMALL MUSEUM AND ARTS FACILITIES EXHIBITION SPACE LINKED TO THE TOWNS UNIVERSITIES AND GARDENS TO CREATE A STUNNING VISITOR ATTRACTION IN THE HEART OF THE BEST TOWN IN THE UK ALL YEAR ROUND. THIS IS NOT HARD![/p][/quote]Pressing caps lock isn't either. ragj195
  • Score: 5

4:57pm Thu 17 Jul 14

Mangiafuoco says...

What is the point? They never listen anyway. BBC spent thousands on PR work asking the public what they would like in place of the Imax and after months of consultation and many suggestions including Ice rink, swimming pool, gardens, museums, hanging gardens of babylon etc they built a.....actually, they built nothing. An empty void which will be eventually filled with flats (including two affortable studio apartments), a cinema, Nando and Benny, Zizzi Starbucks, self cleaning interior designed beach ipods and a camera obscura. Actually, forget the camera, we have an excellent one already.
What is the point? They never listen anyway. BBC spent thousands on PR work asking the public what they would like in place of the Imax and after months of consultation and many suggestions including Ice rink, swimming pool, gardens, museums, hanging gardens of babylon etc they built a.....actually, they built nothing. An empty void which will be eventually filled with flats (including two affortable studio apartments), a cinema, Nando and Benny, Zizzi Starbucks, self cleaning interior designed beach ipods and a camera obscura. Actually, forget the camera, we have an excellent one already. Mangiafuoco
  • Score: 3

7:14pm Thu 17 Jul 14

kalebmoledirt says...

Tango Charlie wrote:
We still need an ice rink. There are enough cinemas already.
We don't need n ice rink a few people want one
[quote][p][bold]Tango Charlie[/bold] wrote: We still need an ice rink. There are enough cinemas already.[/p][/quote]We don't need n ice rink a few people want one kalebmoledirt
  • Score: 5

10:59pm Thu 17 Jul 14

Bob49 says...

Rather like a mugger asking his victim what weapon he would favour being robbed with

Whatever the proposals are they will be no more than a cover to allow the maximum number of flats tio be crammed in - the true intent of any development in town.

And sadly the witless will flap their hands in deluded excitement beliving all the old guff, as elsewhere.

Ice Rink, 90 new jobs, the new Sandbanks, a sea view, Surf pods, open air theatre, surf reef, the new Newquay


all so publically owned assets can be handed over to favoured developers - all for the benefit of the townsfolk, never for the pockets of councillors

of course not

that would never happen, would it ?
Rather like a mugger asking his victim what weapon he would favour being robbed with Whatever the proposals are they will be no more than a cover to allow the maximum number of flats tio be crammed in - the true intent of any development in town. And sadly the witless will flap their hands in deluded excitement beliving all the old guff, as elsewhere. Ice Rink, 90 new jobs, the new Sandbanks, a sea view, Surf pods, open air theatre, surf reef, the new Newquay all so publically owned assets can be handed over to favoured developers - all for the benefit of the townsfolk, never for the pockets of councillors of course not that would never happen, would it ? Bob49
  • Score: 1

11:50pm Thu 17 Jul 14

wadjit says...

No ice rink for a start - what a waste of time that would be. A good art, history and science museum would be nice. A real concert hall. A swimming pool - much needed. A good cinema even - with quality seating and which plays the good films that are not shown in the Westover cinemas at the moment. The closest place you can see the good films is Southampton.
Whatever it is put a cafe and restaurant with it. Build flats above it or next to it. But please, please just build something of good quality and architectural merit that the people of Bournemouth will use and enjoy.
No ice rink for a start - what a waste of time that would be. A good art, history and science museum would be nice. A real concert hall. A swimming pool - much needed. A good cinema even - with quality seating and which plays the good films that are not shown in the Westover cinemas at the moment. The closest place you can see the good films is Southampton. Whatever it is put a cafe and restaurant with it. Build flats above it or next to it. But please, please just build something of good quality and architectural merit that the people of Bournemouth will use and enjoy. wadjit
  • Score: 0

12:21am Fri 18 Jul 14

s-pb2 says...

So has this company actually bought the site. Or is this yet another article from the Echo putting this company's case forward to push public opinion for the company as the council seems to cave in to any kind of sustained public opinion (imax, land train, d-day commemorations)
So has this company actually bought the site. Or is this yet another article from the Echo putting this company's case forward to push public opinion for the company as the council seems to cave in to any kind of sustained public opinion (imax, land train, d-day commemorations) s-pb2
  • Score: 0

3:40pm Wed 23 Jul 14

fartycat says...

Wed, 23 Jul 2014 at 15:36
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Dear developers,

How about you build a performance space adaptable enough so that lots of different groups of musicians, artists, actors and dancers could use it. Oh and a swimming pool to make up for the two that have been stolen from us. The town doesn't need more shops, doesn't need more clubs, doesn't need yet another cinema. What we are missing is a decent performance space for musicians (I've had to play regularly at the BIC and Pavillion and they are terrible).

When the Winter Gardens was demolished the town lost more than a crumbling building. We lost a space where young people could perform Mahler symphonies, where amateur groups could put on operas, ballets and musicals. Now we have a car park, what a waste.

Please go and have a look at Perth's concert hall (Scotland) or Basingstoke's Anvil for an idea of a great building serving the community. No doubt you won't listen and we'll end up with yet more retail and club land but I hope you do take the opportunity to be bold and replace the Winter Gardens with another hall.

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Wed, 23 Jul 2014 at 15:36 15:36 Message starred Winter Gardens Site Hide Details From PAUL WILLIAMS Dear developers, How about you build a performance space adaptable enough so that lots of different groups of musicians, artists, actors and dancers could use it. Oh and a swimming pool to make up for the two that have been stolen from us. The town doesn't need more shops, doesn't need more clubs, doesn't need yet another cinema. What we are missing is a decent performance space for musicians (I've had to play regularly at the BIC and Pavillion and they are terrible). When the Winter Gardens was demolished the town lost more than a crumbling building. We lost a space where young people could perform Mahler symphonies, where amateur groups could put on operas, ballets and musicals. Now we have a car park, what a waste. Please go and have a look at Perth's concert hall (Scotland) or Basingstoke's Anvil for an idea of a great building serving the community. No doubt you won't listen and we'll end up with yet more retail and club land but I hope you do take the opportunity to be bold and replace the Winter Gardens with another hall. Kind regards fartycat
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