Travellers set up camp on Kinson Common - while more turn up in Fleetsbridge

Travellers set up camp on Kinson Common - while more turn up in Fleetsbridge

Travellers set up camp on Kinson Common

Travellers set up camp on Kinson Common

Travellers set up camp on Kinson Common

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AN unauthorised travellers’ camp has set itself up on Kinson Common in Bournemouth – close to a children’s play area.

At around 7pm on Tuesday night, around six caravans, along with other vehicles, got on to the common, off Poole Lane.

It is thought that the gate to the site was forced open. Security officers have now been put in place around the area of the camp and police visited today.

Andy McDonald, parks manager, said: “Our council officers are aware of the recent unauthorised encampment at Kinson Common. They are doing all they can, taking the necessary legal action to move them on as soon as possible.

“In the meantime, our council officers are visiting the site on a regular basis to monitor the situation.”

Cllr Ron Whittaker, who lives near to the site, said: “They are right by the children’s play area.

“The parents are scared stiff and children going to school are being told not to go near there by the parents.

“The police should have the powers to move them on, as it affects the safety of children.

“In the evenings when they come out of school they like to play on the swings.

“You can hear them late at night shouting and bawling, dogs barking, and it’s quite frightening.

“It’s a nature reserve and you can’t do any camping on a nature reserve. It’s very evident that they’ve forced the gate open.”

One resident, Tim, said: “It’s just not on. I hope they won’t be here next week when the summer holidays start as my children will want to come and play up here. I’ve got two young grand children staying with me too and they love going to the park.”

Two female dog walkers who didn’t want to give their names said it was disgusting that the travellers had moved onto a children’s play area: “They act as if they own the place. One of them told me off for walking my dog there last night.”

In Poole, residents were distraught when they saw a traveller convoy attempting to join a group already camped at Fleetsbridge.

Christopher Crescent residents, who already have an encampment of four caravans and a motorhome at the back of their homes, near the Staple store, were horrified when more rolled up at lunchtime on Tuesday.

“They only came because the others were already there,” said Paula Holloway.

“They drove down the pavement to get round the back, it was gridlock.”

She said it was a traveller already on the site who turned the others away. However some vehicles are parked right up against the gardens of elderly residents.

And she took exception to a comment from Borough of Poole that the encampment was “having no detrimental effect on the local community”.

“It’s horrendous,” she said.

“They shouldn’t be there.”

The site is being monitored by council officers as is a group of four caravans at a Baiter car park.

Comments have been opened on this story but please note: any reference to gypsies or any racially offensive term will cause them to be closed and you may find your account suspended. Romany Gypsies and Irish Travellers are legally recognised as ethnic groups, and protected by the Race Relations Act. Please keep your comments to this particular incident and do not generalise. Thanks for your co-operation.

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11:26am Wed 16 Jul 14

Hessenford says...

Here we go again, council will supply skips and toilets and we will foot the cost yet again, they pay nothing and produce nothing except a whole lot of rubbish .
Grow some balls councils, bulldozers and chains at the ready and pull or push them off.
Here we go again, council will supply skips and toilets and we will foot the cost yet again, they pay nothing and produce nothing except a whole lot of rubbish . Grow some balls councils, bulldozers and chains at the ready and pull or push them off. Hessenford
  • Score: 126

11:30am Wed 16 Jul 14

Arjay says...

"It is thought that the gate to the site was forced open"........Suggest
ing that all locally 'secure' sites are vulnerable.... Probably Redhill Common next, I would guess...

I've never understood why the UK law on Joint enterprise is not enforced in these cases? That law was deliberately (although somewhat controversially) introduced to prevent criminals involved in joint acts from escaping justice by blaming each other.
If the gate was forced, charge all those camped on the site with criminal damage, using the 'Joint Enterprise' legislation.

Bet they don't....
"It is thought that the gate to the site was forced open"........Suggest ing that all locally 'secure' sites are vulnerable.... Probably Redhill Common next, I would guess... I've never understood why the UK law on Joint enterprise is not enforced in these cases? That law was deliberately (although somewhat controversially) introduced to prevent criminals involved in joint acts from escaping justice by blaming each other. If the gate was forced, charge all those camped on the site with criminal damage, using the 'Joint Enterprise' legislation. Bet they don't.... Arjay
  • Score: 120

11:38am Wed 16 Jul 14

Ragwin says...

Do what they do with other vehicles. Impound their caravans and vehicles on the site and charge them £200 to release each one.
Do what they do with other vehicles. Impound their caravans and vehicles on the site and charge them £200 to release each one. Ragwin
  • Score: 124

12:13pm Wed 16 Jul 14

speedy231278 says...

I thought that if entry was forced, rather than just rolling onto open land, they could be immediately evicted for criminal trespass rather than have to rely on a week long process to get the necessary eviction order? why have the Police not thrown them off the land?
I thought that if entry was forced, rather than just rolling onto open land, they could be immediately evicted for criminal trespass rather than have to rely on a week long process to get the necessary eviction order? why have the Police not thrown them off the land? speedy231278
  • Score: 107

12:31pm Wed 16 Jul 14

MMM444 says...

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  • Score: -68

12:37pm Wed 16 Jul 14

askquestion says...

before this lot have been evicted, put the denver boot on a couple of the vehicles/caravans until they pay the fine for criminal damage to council property. year on year, we suffer this scourge and locals live on edge.

nature reserves mean nothing to these people. who leave filth every time.

what will the council/police do this time, to recoup some of the ever increasing costs to remove them.

if the town is in " lock down " how did they arrive on our local nature reserve ?

just for once, do what is right by locals, and charge them collectively for the nuisance they are.
before this lot have been evicted, put the denver boot on a couple of the vehicles/caravans until they pay the fine for criminal damage to council property. year on year, we suffer this scourge and locals live on edge. nature reserves mean nothing to these people. who leave filth every time. what will the council/police do this time, to recoup some of the ever increasing costs to remove them. if the town is in " lock down " how did they arrive on our local nature reserve ? just for once, do what is right by locals, and charge them collectively for the nuisance they are. askquestion
  • Score: 82

12:44pm Wed 16 Jul 14

Bob Bournemouth says...

Again it's the ratepayers who will have to pay for the clean up and will suffer by not being able to use the area because it feels unsafe.
Again it's the ratepayers who will have to pay for the clean up and will suffer by not being able to use the area because it feels unsafe. Bob Bournemouth
  • Score: 62

12:49pm Wed 16 Jul 14

G from Kinson says...

Forced the gate open?
The padlock on this gate is covered to ensure it cannot be removed with bolt cutters and the gate is now open, so how was it forced and by what?
Could it have been left unlocked?
Forced the gate open? The padlock on this gate is covered to ensure it cannot be removed with bolt cutters and the gate is now open, so how was it forced and by what? Could it have been left unlocked? G from Kinson
  • Score: 29

12:54pm Wed 16 Jul 14

burgerboy says...

speedy231278 wrote:
I thought that if entry was forced, rather than just rolling onto open land, they could be immediately evicted for criminal trespass rather than have to rely on a week long process to get the necessary eviction order? why have the Police not thrown them off the land?
The police haven't thrown them off the land because they are too scared to,and they don't want to upset them.
[quote][p][bold]speedy231278[/bold] wrote: I thought that if entry was forced, rather than just rolling onto open land, they could be immediately evicted for criminal trespass rather than have to rely on a week long process to get the necessary eviction order? why have the Police not thrown them off the land?[/p][/quote]The police haven't thrown them off the land because they are too scared to,and they don't want to upset them. burgerboy
  • Score: 77

1:32pm Wed 16 Jul 14

we-shall-see says...

G from Kinson wrote:
Forced the gate open?
The padlock on this gate is covered to ensure it cannot be removed with bolt cutters and the gate is now open, so how was it forced and by what?
Could it have been left unlocked?
I doubt the gate was unlocked - but as we have seen time and again in Poole - they always claim the padlocks were removed/damaged before they got there and without proof of them actually forcing entry, sadly there is nothing that can be done about it.

Having said that, someone took a photo of a traveller cutting the padlock off the gate at Hamworthy Park a while back and STILL nothing was done about them gaining illegal entry.

Neither the council, nor the Police have the balls to deal with them is the top and bottom of it!
[quote][p][bold]G from Kinson[/bold] wrote: Forced the gate open? The padlock on this gate is covered to ensure it cannot be removed with bolt cutters and the gate is now open, so how was it forced and by what? Could it have been left unlocked?[/p][/quote]I doubt the gate was unlocked - but as we have seen time and again in Poole - they always claim the padlocks were removed/damaged before they got there and without proof of them actually forcing entry, sadly there is nothing that can be done about it. Having said that, someone took a photo of a traveller cutting the padlock off the gate at Hamworthy Park a while back and STILL nothing was done about them gaining illegal entry. Neither the council, nor the Police have the balls to deal with them is the top and bottom of it! we-shall-see
  • Score: 58

1:38pm Wed 16 Jul 14

Hessenford says...

MMM444 wrote:
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Useless comment, now wake up, you'll be late for signing on.
[quote][p][bold]MMM444[/bold] wrote: ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ[/p][/quote]Useless comment, now wake up, you'll be late for signing on. Hessenford
  • Score: 61

2:07pm Wed 16 Jul 14

Marty Caine UKIP says...

Give them an hour to move off and then if they haven't moved then weld the gate closed.
Give them an hour to move off and then if they haven't moved then weld the gate closed. Marty Caine UKIP
  • Score: 56

2:37pm Wed 16 Jul 14

on-the-sunny-side says...

why don't they get prosecuted for criminal damage? if I hacked a padlock off or kicked a gate down I would be arrested.
why don't they get prosecuted for criminal damage? if I hacked a padlock off or kicked a gate down I would be arrested. on-the-sunny-side
  • Score: 59

2:50pm Wed 16 Jul 14

crystal-coast says...

Marty Caine UKIP wrote:
Give them an hour to move off and then if they haven't moved then weld the gate closed.
I love that idea! Every time all that happens is a week to evict them to go to the next car park. Block them
[quote][p][bold]Marty Caine UKIP[/bold] wrote: Give them an hour to move off and then if they haven't moved then weld the gate closed.[/p][/quote]I love that idea! Every time all that happens is a week to evict them to go to the next car park. Block them crystal-coast
  • Score: 41

3:04pm Wed 16 Jul 14

askquestion says...

as we arent allowed to call them what they are, or from whence they came. lets call them what they really are. criminals. forcing entry onto someones private land. covering the place in filth and waste. walking away scot free. paying not a penny for the priviledge of a freebie holiday.

i would suggest that we all refuse to pay our local taxes if these criminals arent arrested and charged. then banned from every inch of land in Dorset.
as we arent allowed to call them what they are, or from whence they came. lets call them what they really are. criminals. forcing entry onto someones private land. covering the place in filth and waste. walking away scot free. paying not a penny for the priviledge of a freebie holiday. i would suggest that we all refuse to pay our local taxes if these criminals arent arrested and charged. then banned from every inch of land in Dorset. askquestion
  • Score: 69

3:15pm Wed 16 Jul 14

politicaltrainspotter says...

Like you all I am sick and tired of the council and other agencies bowing to political correctness.If I was to break the lock,i quite rightly would be charged with criminal damage.And the fact is if there were legal travelers sites then they would not be used.

Summers here and the 'so called travelers' emerge waving the ethnic rights card.Well all that does is make the authorities look weak.Take their registrations and kick them out then start proceedings with bayliffs to take away their trailers.Political correctness killed this country and britishness.
Like you all I am sick and tired of the council and other agencies bowing to political correctness.If I was to break the lock,i quite rightly would be charged with criminal damage.And the fact is if there were legal travelers sites then they would not be used. Summers here and the 'so called travelers' emerge waving the ethnic rights card.Well all that does is make the authorities look weak.Take their registrations and kick them out then start proceedings with bayliffs to take away their trailers.Political correctness killed this country and britishness. politicaltrainspotter
  • Score: 66

3:29pm Wed 16 Jul 14

Bob49 says...

politicaltrainspotte
r
wrote:
Like you all I am sick and tired of the council and other agencies bowing to political correctness.If I was to break the lock,i quite rightly would be charged with criminal damage.And the fact is if there were legal travelers sites then they would not be used.

Summers here and the 'so called travelers' emerge waving the ethnic rights card.Well all that does is make the authorities look weak.Take their registrations and kick them out then start proceedings with bayliffs to take away their trailers.Political correctness killed this country and britishness.
oh dear, out pops the "political corectness gone mad" brigade

perhaps one day one of these Animal Farm sheep will stop bleating out what they are told and actually find someone to explain to them that this problem is caused by a ruling made by an English judge in an English court

the authorities are obliged to follow the law - or what the above poster have them break the law ?

where then any complaint about law breaking ?
[quote][p][bold]politicaltrainspotte r[/bold] wrote: Like you all I am sick and tired of the council and other agencies bowing to political correctness.If I was to break the lock,i quite rightly would be charged with criminal damage.And the fact is if there were legal travelers sites then they would not be used. Summers here and the 'so called travelers' emerge waving the ethnic rights card.Well all that does is make the authorities look weak.Take their registrations and kick them out then start proceedings with bayliffs to take away their trailers.Political correctness killed this country and britishness.[/p][/quote]oh dear, out pops the "political corectness gone mad" brigade perhaps one day one of these Animal Farm sheep will stop bleating out what they are told and actually find someone to explain to them that this problem is caused by a ruling made by an English judge in an English court the authorities are obliged to follow the law - or what the above poster have them break the law ? where then any complaint about law breaking ? Bob49
  • Score: -36

4:03pm Wed 16 Jul 14

MMM444 says...

Hessenford wrote:
Here we go again, council will supply skips and toilets and we will foot the cost yet again, they pay nothing and produce nothing except a whole lot of rubbish .
Grow some balls councils, bulldozers and chains at the ready and pull or push them off.
Yeah, Here we go again with your pathetic drivel, as if we haven't heard this before, now get back in your box, and grow some balls yourself, gormless moron
[quote][p][bold]Hessenford[/bold] wrote: Here we go again, council will supply skips and toilets and we will foot the cost yet again, they pay nothing and produce nothing except a whole lot of rubbish . Grow some balls councils, bulldozers and chains at the ready and pull or push them off.[/p][/quote]Yeah, Here we go again with your pathetic drivel, as if we haven't heard this before, now get back in your box, and grow some balls yourself, gormless moron MMM444
  • Score: -52

4:21pm Wed 16 Jul 14

Minty Fresh says...

So once again the Echo report the latest incursion by travellers and once again they shy away from actually backing the local people who have had enough of picking up the pieces after these non law abiding individuals. Again I will state very clearly that I am NOT a racist. If these people want to live a nomadic lifestyle that's fine by me, PROVIDED they abide by the same laws the rest of us do and face the same punishment we would if they break those laws.
I also think it's disgusting that this local paper, and it's totally anonymous Editor, has utterly failed it's readers by not launching a campaign for a law change that would see these undesirables face the consequences of their law breaking. Shame on you Daily Echo and your American owners Gannett/Newsquest (who only care about how much money they make for their shareholders and stuff local issues.)
So once again the Echo report the latest incursion by travellers and once again they shy away from actually backing the local people who have had enough of picking up the pieces after these non law abiding individuals. Again I will state very clearly that I am NOT a racist. If these people want to live a nomadic lifestyle that's fine by me, PROVIDED they abide by the same laws the rest of us do and face the same punishment we would if they break those laws. I also think it's disgusting that this local paper, and it's totally anonymous Editor, has utterly failed it's readers by not launching a campaign for a law change that would see these undesirables face the consequences of their law breaking. Shame on you Daily Echo and your American owners Gannett/Newsquest (who only care about how much money they make for their shareholders and stuff local issues.) Minty Fresh
  • Score: 41

4:34pm Wed 16 Jul 14

podgie says...

I agree with the echo,anyone who refers to this wonderful ethnic,diverse group that add to the colorful landscape of our great country,
as Thieving ,dirty,smelly,freelo
ading scumbags,or any other derogatory term,should be ashamed of themselves,
I agree with the echo,anyone who refers to this wonderful ethnic,diverse group that add to the colorful landscape of our great country, as Thieving ,dirty,smelly,freelo ading scumbags,or any other derogatory term,should be ashamed of themselves, podgie
  • Score: -27

4:44pm Wed 16 Jul 14

S,Bowes says...

When the police stop the Irish caravan club do they look for tools that would enable holiday maker /drive repair man/supplier of Heather cuttings .to gain access to a locked council facility.like being equipped to comit a burglary?
When the police stop the Irish caravan club do they look for tools that would enable holiday maker /drive repair man/supplier of Heather cuttings .to gain access to a locked council facility.like being equipped to comit a burglary? S,Bowes
  • Score: 26

4:46pm Wed 16 Jul 14

Hessenford says...

MMM444 wrote:
Hessenford wrote:
Here we go again, council will supply skips and toilets and we will foot the cost yet again, they pay nothing and produce nothing except a whole lot of rubbish .
Grow some balls councils, bulldozers and chains at the ready and pull or push them off.
Yeah, Here we go again with your pathetic drivel, as if we haven't heard this before, now get back in your box, and grow some balls yourself, gormless moron
Do you live on Kinson common
[quote][p][bold]MMM444[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hessenford[/bold] wrote: Here we go again, council will supply skips and toilets and we will foot the cost yet again, they pay nothing and produce nothing except a whole lot of rubbish . Grow some balls councils, bulldozers and chains at the ready and pull or push them off.[/p][/quote]Yeah, Here we go again with your pathetic drivel, as if we haven't heard this before, now get back in your box, and grow some balls yourself, gormless moron[/p][/quote]Do you live on Kinson common Hessenford
  • Score: 23

4:46pm Wed 16 Jul 14

G from Kinson says...

Our Ward Councillors are very quiet on this matter!
Are they on holiday?
Our Ward Councillors are very quiet on this matter! Are they on holiday? G from Kinson
  • Score: 23

4:48pm Wed 16 Jul 14

Diesel Dog says...

Ragwin wrote:
Do what they do with other vehicles. Impound their caravans and vehicles on the site and charge them £200 to release each one.
£200 seems very low for all of the shiny new vehicles we can't afford due to PAYE and being in bed at night due to being knackered from a had days work. I suggest they could fork up 10 times as much and still afford a slap up meal at a posh London restaurant and a taxi fare home. 7 days a week.
[quote][p][bold]Ragwin[/bold] wrote: Do what they do with other vehicles. Impound their caravans and vehicles on the site and charge them £200 to release each one.[/p][/quote]£200 seems very low for all of the shiny new vehicles we can't afford due to PAYE and being in bed at night due to being knackered from a had days work. I suggest they could fork up 10 times as much and still afford a slap up meal at a posh London restaurant and a taxi fare home. 7 days a week. Diesel Dog
  • Score: 22

4:48pm Wed 16 Jul 14

Hessenford says...

MMM444 wrote:
Hessenford wrote:
Here we go again, council will supply skips and toilets and we will foot the cost yet again, they pay nothing and produce nothing except a whole lot of rubbish .
Grow some balls councils, bulldozers and chains at the ready and pull or push them off.
Yeah, Here we go again with your pathetic drivel, as if we haven't heard this before, now get back in your box, and grow some balls yourself, gormless moron
Seven thumbs down in less than 30 minutes, you are in the minority, just as those who break down gates and cut padlocks.
[quote][p][bold]MMM444[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hessenford[/bold] wrote: Here we go again, council will supply skips and toilets and we will foot the cost yet again, they pay nothing and produce nothing except a whole lot of rubbish . Grow some balls councils, bulldozers and chains at the ready and pull or push them off.[/p][/quote]Yeah, Here we go again with your pathetic drivel, as if we haven't heard this before, now get back in your box, and grow some balls yourself, gormless moron[/p][/quote]Seven thumbs down in less than 30 minutes, you are in the minority, just as those who break down gates and cut padlocks. Hessenford
  • Score: 28

4:56pm Wed 16 Jul 14

Hessenford says...

MMM444 wrote:
Hessenford wrote:
Here we go again, council will supply skips and toilets and we will foot the cost yet again, they pay nothing and produce nothing except a whole lot of rubbish .
Grow some balls councils, bulldozers and chains at the ready and pull or push them off.
Yeah, Here we go again with your pathetic drivel, as if we haven't heard this before, now get back in your box, and grow some balls yourself, gormless moron
10 now, methinks you are the moron matey.
[quote][p][bold]MMM444[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hessenford[/bold] wrote: Here we go again, council will supply skips and toilets and we will foot the cost yet again, they pay nothing and produce nothing except a whole lot of rubbish . Grow some balls councils, bulldozers and chains at the ready and pull or push them off.[/p][/quote]Yeah, Here we go again with your pathetic drivel, as if we haven't heard this before, now get back in your box, and grow some balls yourself, gormless moron[/p][/quote]10 now, methinks you are the moron matey. Hessenford
  • Score: 25

5:12pm Wed 16 Jul 14

burgerboy says...

G from Kinson wrote:
Our Ward Councillors are very quiet on this matter!
Are they on holiday?
No its called keeping your head down whilst the sh*t flies about.
They are all so good at that.........they get plenty of practice.
[quote][p][bold]G from Kinson[/bold] wrote: Our Ward Councillors are very quiet on this matter! Are they on holiday?[/p][/quote]No its called keeping your head down whilst the sh*t flies about. They are all so good at that.........they get plenty of practice. burgerboy
  • Score: 28

5:18pm Wed 16 Jul 14

MMM444 says...

Go find a bulldozer moron, and don't forget the bolt croppers, you hero, never heard so much tripe, now get back in your sad little box, it's feeding time for idiots like you.
Go find a bulldozer moron, and don't forget the bolt croppers, you hero, never heard so much tripe, now get back in your sad little box, it's feeding time for idiots like you. MMM444
  • Score: -48

5:23pm Wed 16 Jul 14

Hessenford says...

MMM444 wrote:
Go find a bulldozer moron, and don't forget the bolt croppers, you hero, never heard so much tripe, now get back in your sad little box, it's feeding time for idiots like you.
15 thumbs down now, definitely a minority, your portaloo will be along shortly, just throw your comments straight in there.
[quote][p][bold]MMM444[/bold] wrote: Go find a bulldozer moron, and don't forget the bolt croppers, you hero, never heard so much tripe, now get back in your sad little box, it's feeding time for idiots like you.[/p][/quote]15 thumbs down now, definitely a minority, your portaloo will be along shortly, just throw your comments straight in there. Hessenford
  • Score: 22

5:24pm Wed 16 Jul 14

Bob49 says...

S,Bowes wrote:
When the police stop the Irish caravan club do they look for tools that would enable holiday maker /drive repair man/supplier of Heather cuttings .to gain access to a locked council facility.like being equipped to comit a burglary?
So as to avoid generalising, i know of one incident where an old red vauxhall parked up on a laby and 3 women and four children got out, then took heavy boltcutter out of the boot before heading off towards some local authority property

the next day I read that 'travellers' were encamped on the property

I have to suppose that at some time later vans were rushed onto said property

i should also imagine that this vehicle is deliberately kept well away from the vans

that's all
[quote][p][bold]S,Bowes[/bold] wrote: When the police stop the Irish caravan club do they look for tools that would enable holiday maker /drive repair man/supplier of Heather cuttings .to gain access to a locked council facility.like being equipped to comit a burglary?[/p][/quote]So as to avoid generalising, i know of one incident where an old red vauxhall parked up on a laby and 3 women and four children got out, then took heavy boltcutter out of the boot before heading off towards some local authority property the next day I read that 'travellers' were encamped on the property I have to suppose that at some time later vans were rushed onto said property i should also imagine that this vehicle is deliberately kept well away from the vans that's all Bob49
  • Score: 16

5:47pm Wed 16 Jul 14

dvdr says...

Do not mess about - block them in! When the poor little dears have to walk everywhere, and cannot use their fancy vehicles, they will soon get fed up.

And do not just let them out - get proof of VED payment, vehicle insurance, car park charges paid and so on before letting them out. Or are our council representatives (or police) afraid to do this? What kind of police force do we have? We know about the local council - spineless as they are. Who else defends us?

Truly, there does seem to be a different rule of law between people like these and the rest of local society, who have to pay their way in life.
Do not mess about - block them in! When the poor little dears have to walk everywhere, and cannot use their fancy vehicles, they will soon get fed up. And do not just let them out - get proof of VED payment, vehicle insurance, car park charges paid and so on before letting them out. Or are our council representatives (or police) afraid to do this? What kind of police force do we have? We know about the local council - spineless as they are. Who else defends us? Truly, there does seem to be a different rule of law between people like these and the rest of local society, who have to pay their way in life. dvdr
  • Score: 28

6:00pm Wed 16 Jul 14

Minty Fresh says...

dvdr wrote:
Do not mess about - block them in! When the poor little dears have to walk everywhere, and cannot use their fancy vehicles, they will soon get fed up.

And do not just let them out - get proof of VED payment, vehicle insurance, car park charges paid and so on before letting them out. Or are our council representatives (or police) afraid to do this? What kind of police force do we have? We know about the local council - spineless as they are. Who else defends us?

Truly, there does seem to be a different rule of law between people like these and the rest of local society, who have to pay their way in life.
Who speaks up for the rights of the local people on this issue? No-one. Certainly not this spineless excuse for a local paper and it's anonymous Editor who care not a jot about it's readers, only how much money they make for their greedy American owners Gannet/Newsquest and the desire not to employ their expensively retained lawyers should they somehow upset the nomads. What they should be doing is lobbying local MP's via a high profile campaign for a law change that would put an end to travellers breaking our laws with impunity. Disgraceful and pathetic in equal measure. The Echo should be ashamed of themselves.
[quote][p][bold]dvdr[/bold] wrote: Do not mess about - block them in! When the poor little dears have to walk everywhere, and cannot use their fancy vehicles, they will soon get fed up. And do not just let them out - get proof of VED payment, vehicle insurance, car park charges paid and so on before letting them out. Or are our council representatives (or police) afraid to do this? What kind of police force do we have? We know about the local council - spineless as they are. Who else defends us? Truly, there does seem to be a different rule of law between people like these and the rest of local society, who have to pay their way in life.[/p][/quote]Who speaks up for the rights of the local people on this issue? No-one. Certainly not this spineless excuse for a local paper and it's anonymous Editor who care not a jot about it's readers, only how much money they make for their greedy American owners Gannet/Newsquest and the desire not to employ their expensively retained lawyers should they somehow upset the nomads. What they should be doing is lobbying local MP's via a high profile campaign for a law change that would put an end to travellers breaking our laws with impunity. Disgraceful and pathetic in equal measure. The Echo should be ashamed of themselves. Minty Fresh
  • Score: 14

6:01pm Wed 16 Jul 14

BIGTONE says...

Ain't it good to be free....Bo Diddley
Ain't it good to be free....Bo Diddley BIGTONE
  • Score: 0

6:46pm Wed 16 Jul 14

Wesoblind says...

Hessenford wrote:
Here we go again, council will supply skips and toilets and we will foot the cost yet again, they pay nothing and produce nothing except a whole lot of rubbish .
Grow some balls councils, bulldozers and chains at the ready and pull or push them off.
Why dont the people grow some balls insted of leaving it to the useless council?

I had these sort living near me and after years of theft, damage and mess one day they were letting their 14 year old drive up and down the road in a van and he hit three cars, we lost it. about 40 of us drove our cars, vans and trailors and let all our dogs out (about 20). after two hours of abuse and threats they hitched up and left and to my knowledge havent been back since.

So stop moaning and do something about these immoral, scamming antisocial people!
[quote][p][bold]Hessenford[/bold] wrote: Here we go again, council will supply skips and toilets and we will foot the cost yet again, they pay nothing and produce nothing except a whole lot of rubbish . Grow some balls councils, bulldozers and chains at the ready and pull or push them off.[/p][/quote]Why dont the people grow some balls insted of leaving it to the useless council? I had these sort living near me and after years of theft, damage and mess one day they were letting their 14 year old drive up and down the road in a van and he hit three cars, we lost it. about 40 of us drove our cars, vans and trailors and let all our dogs out (about 20). after two hours of abuse and threats they hitched up and left and to my knowledge havent been back since. So stop moaning and do something about these immoral, scamming antisocial people! Wesoblind
  • Score: 31

7:05pm Wed 16 Jul 14

politicaltrainspotter says...

Bob49 wrote:
politicaltrainspotte

r
wrote:
Like you all I am sick and tired of the council and other agencies bowing to political correctness.If I was to break the lock,i quite rightly would be charged with criminal damage.And the fact is if there were legal travelers sites then they would not be used.

Summers here and the 'so called travelers' emerge waving the ethnic rights card.Well all that does is make the authorities look weak.Take their registrations and kick them out then start proceedings with bayliffs to take away their trailers.Political correctness killed this country and britishness.
oh dear, out pops the "political corectness gone mad" brigade

perhaps one day one of these Animal Farm sheep will stop bleating out what they are told and actually find someone to explain to them that this problem is caused by a ruling made by an English judge in an English court

the authorities are obliged to follow the law - or what the above poster have them break the law ?

where then any complaint about law breaking ?
Seems like you'd welcome them then ? Problem solved.
[quote][p][bold]Bob49[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]politicaltrainspotte r[/bold] wrote: Like you all I am sick and tired of the council and other agencies bowing to political correctness.If I was to break the lock,i quite rightly would be charged with criminal damage.And the fact is if there were legal travelers sites then they would not be used. Summers here and the 'so called travelers' emerge waving the ethnic rights card.Well all that does is make the authorities look weak.Take their registrations and kick them out then start proceedings with bayliffs to take away their trailers.Political correctness killed this country and britishness.[/p][/quote]oh dear, out pops the "political corectness gone mad" brigade perhaps one day one of these Animal Farm sheep will stop bleating out what they are told and actually find someone to explain to them that this problem is caused by a ruling made by an English judge in an English court the authorities are obliged to follow the law - or what the above poster have them break the law ? where then any complaint about law breaking ?[/p][/quote]Seems like you'd welcome them then ? Problem solved. politicaltrainspotter
  • Score: 7

7:58pm Wed 16 Jul 14

muscliffman says...

G from Kinson wrote:
Our Ward Councillors are very quiet on this matter!
Are they on holiday?
No, they are probably with our PCC and our Council Leaders in a distant bunker far, far away - it's what always happens when the 'travellers' appear.
[quote][p][bold]G from Kinson[/bold] wrote: Our Ward Councillors are very quiet on this matter! Are they on holiday?[/p][/quote]No, they are probably with our PCC and our Council Leaders in a distant bunker far, far away - it's what always happens when the 'travellers' appear. muscliffman
  • Score: 22

8:10pm Wed 16 Jul 14

dustbindanny says...

Perhaps we could have a Police spokesman to add there comment on why they won't act against these People, yet will prosecute the Individual taxpayer etc? Drop a cigarette end and your nicked , " i,m a traveller, I can do what I want" and get away with it, the local tax payers will pick up the bill? Will we here from a police spokesman, as too why they won't act , don't count on it!
Perhaps we could have a Police spokesman to add there comment on why they won't act against these People, yet will prosecute the Individual taxpayer etc? Drop a cigarette end and your nicked , " i,m a traveller, I can do what I want" and get away with it, the local tax payers will pick up the bill? Will we here from a police spokesman, as too why they won't act , don't count on it! dustbindanny
  • Score: 22

8:47pm Wed 16 Jul 14

kinsonjim says...

Same old drivel, year after year from our seemingly gutless Council and the Old Bill. How long will it be before residents and tax payers take the law into their own hands?? I bet the authorities will soon be knocking on doors then for a nice easy arrest. Something new to put in the Echo at last.
Same old drivel, year after year from our seemingly gutless Council and the Old Bill. How long will it be before residents and tax payers take the law into their own hands?? I bet the authorities will soon be knocking on doors then for a nice easy arrest. Something new to put in the Echo at last. kinsonjim
  • Score: 17

9:14pm Wed 16 Jul 14

Bob49 says...

politicaltrainspotte
r
wrote:
Bob49 wrote:
politicaltrainspotte


r
wrote:
Like you all I am sick and tired of the council and other agencies bowing to political correctness.If I was to break the lock,i quite rightly would be charged with criminal damage.And the fact is if there were legal travelers sites then they would not be used.

Summers here and the 'so called travelers' emerge waving the ethnic rights card.Well all that does is make the authorities look weak.Take their registrations and kick them out then start proceedings with bayliffs to take away their trailers.Political correctness killed this country and britishness.
oh dear, out pops the "political corectness gone mad" brigade

perhaps one day one of these Animal Farm sheep will stop bleating out what they are told and actually find someone to explain to them that this problem is caused by a ruling made by an English judge in an English court

the authorities are obliged to follow the law - or what the above poster have them break the law ?

where then any complaint about law breaking ?
Seems like you'd welcome them then ? Problem solved.
No. you are just making up stuff as before.

This problem, and it is a problem, not an ishoooooo needs dealing with. However as long as ridiculous nonsense as put out by yourself constantly clouds the question then it is always going to be all that much more difficult to get this sorted.

So why not actually read up on what this ruling was in 2000, and what it's implications are for the both the police and local authorities - and stop bleating out these witless and idiotic cliches.
[quote][p][bold]politicaltrainspotte r[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bob49[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]politicaltrainspotte r[/bold] wrote: Like you all I am sick and tired of the council and other agencies bowing to political correctness.If I was to break the lock,i quite rightly would be charged with criminal damage.And the fact is if there were legal travelers sites then they would not be used. Summers here and the 'so called travelers' emerge waving the ethnic rights card.Well all that does is make the authorities look weak.Take their registrations and kick them out then start proceedings with bayliffs to take away their trailers.Political correctness killed this country and britishness.[/p][/quote]oh dear, out pops the "political corectness gone mad" brigade perhaps one day one of these Animal Farm sheep will stop bleating out what they are told and actually find someone to explain to them that this problem is caused by a ruling made by an English judge in an English court the authorities are obliged to follow the law - or what the above poster have them break the law ? where then any complaint about law breaking ?[/p][/quote]Seems like you'd welcome them then ? Problem solved.[/p][/quote]No. you are just making up stuff as before. This problem, and it is a problem, not an ishoooooo needs dealing with. However as long as ridiculous nonsense as put out by yourself constantly clouds the question then it is always going to be all that much more difficult to get this sorted. So why not actually read up on what this ruling was in 2000, and what it's implications are for the both the police and local authorities - and stop bleating out these witless and idiotic cliches. Bob49
  • Score: -9

9:36pm Wed 16 Jul 14

alasdair1967 says...

Summers here the pre steam fair cat and mouse has started this happens year after year after year ,as soon as the fair sites open miraculously they all disappear !!
Summers here the pre steam fair cat and mouse has started this happens year after year after year ,as soon as the fair sites open miraculously they all disappear !! alasdair1967
  • Score: 7

9:46pm Wed 16 Jul 14

Baysider says...

alasdair1967 wrote:
Summers here the pre steam fair cat and mouse has started this happens year after year after year ,as soon as the fair sites open miraculously they all disappear !!
Same old rubbish spouted by the same old posters. They are here because people employ them, not for a steam fair in six weeks time. If the public stopped giving them cash in hand work they would not bother coming, it's absolutely as simple as that.
[quote][p][bold]alasdair1967[/bold] wrote: Summers here the pre steam fair cat and mouse has started this happens year after year after year ,as soon as the fair sites open miraculously they all disappear !![/p][/quote]Same old rubbish spouted by the same old posters. They are here because people employ them, not for a steam fair in six weeks time. If the public stopped giving them cash in hand work they would not bother coming, it's absolutely as simple as that. Baysider
  • Score: -7

10:24pm Wed 16 Jul 14

Kinson2 says...

we-shall-see wrote:
G from Kinson wrote:
Forced the gate open?
The padlock on this gate is covered to ensure it cannot be removed with bolt cutters and the gate is now open, so how was it forced and by what?
Could it have been left unlocked?
I doubt the gate was unlocked - but as we have seen time and again in Poole - they always claim the padlocks were removed/damaged before they got there and without proof of them actually forcing entry, sadly there is nothing that can be done about it.

Having said that, someone took a photo of a traveller cutting the padlock off the gate at Hamworthy Park a while back and STILL nothing was done about them gaining illegal entry.

Neither the council, nor the Police have the balls to deal with them is the top and bottom of it!
The gate wasn't unlocked we called the police to report them cutting the lock and when they finally got it open they stopped the traffic as they were driving on the wrong side of the road!!
[quote][p][bold]we-shall-see[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]G from Kinson[/bold] wrote: Forced the gate open? The padlock on this gate is covered to ensure it cannot be removed with bolt cutters and the gate is now open, so how was it forced and by what? Could it have been left unlocked?[/p][/quote]I doubt the gate was unlocked - but as we have seen time and again in Poole - they always claim the padlocks were removed/damaged before they got there and without proof of them actually forcing entry, sadly there is nothing that can be done about it. Having said that, someone took a photo of a traveller cutting the padlock off the gate at Hamworthy Park a while back and STILL nothing was done about them gaining illegal entry. Neither the council, nor the Police have the balls to deal with them is the top and bottom of it![/p][/quote]The gate wasn't unlocked we called the police to report them cutting the lock and when they finally got it open they stopped the traffic as they were driving on the wrong side of the road!! Kinson2
  • Score: 15

2:00am Thu 17 Jul 14

Wageslave says...

They were in Throop for about ten days. Same routine broken gate, why were they not escorted out of the county and not just let loose to do the same just up the road on the next piece of open space
They were in Throop for about ten days. Same routine broken gate, why were they not escorted out of the county and not just let loose to do the same just up the road on the next piece of open space Wageslave
  • Score: 10

7:10am Thu 17 Jul 14

Baysider says...

Baysider wrote:
alasdair1967 wrote:
Summers here the pre steam fair cat and mouse has started this happens year after year after year ,as soon as the fair sites open miraculously they all disappear !!
Same old rubbish spouted by the same old posters. They are here because people employ them, not for a steam fair in six weeks time. If the public stopped giving them cash in hand work they would not bother coming, it's absolutely as simple as that.
Ahh...you can thumbs down all you like and pretend that every group that turns up does so only to get the best spot like a shopper at the Harrods sale. But you are kidding yourselves if you don't think that some members of the public are encouraging them to come back year after year. No work for them will very quickly result in them moving on and this is the ONLY long term solution.
[quote][p][bold]Baysider[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alasdair1967[/bold] wrote: Summers here the pre steam fair cat and mouse has started this happens year after year after year ,as soon as the fair sites open miraculously they all disappear !![/p][/quote]Same old rubbish spouted by the same old posters. They are here because people employ them, not for a steam fair in six weeks time. If the public stopped giving them cash in hand work they would not bother coming, it's absolutely as simple as that.[/p][/quote]Ahh...you can thumbs down all you like and pretend that every group that turns up does so only to get the best spot like a shopper at the Harrods sale. But you are kidding yourselves if you don't think that some members of the public are encouraging them to come back year after year. No work for them will very quickly result in them moving on and this is the ONLY long term solution. Baysider
  • Score: -3

8:20am Thu 17 Jul 14

on-the-sunny-side says...

MMM444 wrote:
Hessenford wrote:
Here we go again, council will supply skips and toilets and we will foot the cost yet again, they pay nothing and produce nothing except a whole lot of rubbish .
Grow some balls councils, bulldozers and chains at the ready and pull or push them off.
Yeah, Here we go again with your pathetic drivel, as if we haven't heard this before, now get back in your box, and grow some balls yourself, gormless moron
spoken like a true "ethnic minority"
[quote][p][bold]MMM444[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hessenford[/bold] wrote: Here we go again, council will supply skips and toilets and we will foot the cost yet again, they pay nothing and produce nothing except a whole lot of rubbish . Grow some balls councils, bulldozers and chains at the ready and pull or push them off.[/p][/quote]Yeah, Here we go again with your pathetic drivel, as if we haven't heard this before, now get back in your box, and grow some balls yourself, gormless moron[/p][/quote]spoken like a true "ethnic minority" on-the-sunny-side
  • Score: 4

8:30am Thu 17 Jul 14

Carolyn43 says...

They'll be gone by 27th August when the Steam Fair starts.

Oh dear! That means they'll miss he air show which starts on 28th.
They'll be gone by 27th August when the Steam Fair starts. Oh dear! That means they'll miss he air show which starts on 28th. Carolyn43
  • Score: 4

8:34am Thu 17 Jul 14

G from Kinson says...

The gates padlock is intact and it appears the hinges were tampered with.
Lovely lines of washing in the trees and on the goalpost this morning!Apparently a dog walker saw a young lad driving a car in the meadow yesterday and he told her he was 14 !
The gates padlock is intact and it appears the hinges were tampered with. Lovely lines of washing in the trees and on the goalpost this morning!Apparently a dog walker saw a young lad driving a car in the meadow yesterday and he told her he was 14 ! G from Kinson
  • Score: 9

9:35am Thu 17 Jul 14

melting pot says...

How about Dorset roads policing pay them a visit and properly check the traders policies......Most traders policies relate to vehicles being used for work purposes. All the ones towing caravans are not being used for commercial purposes so may not be insured..... Easy innit seizures of vehicles and six points all round.

Of course to not upset these people the police could say go now or have your vehicle seized.

I've seen this done in a neighbouring county.It works!!

Oh I forgot Dorset traffic department has been cut so much it doesn't really exist anymore
How about Dorset roads policing pay them a visit and properly check the traders policies......Most traders policies relate to vehicles being used for work purposes. All the ones towing caravans are not being used for commercial purposes so may not be insured..... Easy innit seizures of vehicles and six points all round. Of course to not upset these people the police could say go now or have your vehicle seized. I've seen this done in a neighbouring county.It works!! Oh I forgot Dorset traffic department has been cut so much it doesn't really exist anymore melting pot
  • Score: 8

9:54am Thu 17 Jul 14

TheDistrict says...

Why not take a stand ourselves as the Council will do nothing. These people have deliberately forced a gate open, surely that is a crime in itself. I am sure if I crow barred the gate to park up for a few days, I would have already been moved. As pointed out, it is also a SSSI and a Nature Reserve. Therefore, camping is illegal. So one asks why are they allowed to stay there.

Oh yes, it is because of their rights, the stupid rights set up by who. Along with the ever put in your face orders by the Echo. Is it not time that the Echo supported the very people that they publish to. Perhaps a total ban on the purchase of the Echo will make them see our views.

As for the Council, they are a useless and pointless enterprise who are so scared of upsetting a minority. The children that you represent and built the play area for is now empty. No rightful parent wants to place their children in that environment when such foul mouth, filthy letches are permitted to spoil our open spaces.

It is disgusting, apalling, and the Council should be ashamed of themselves for being such downtrodden, lets give them what they want, spineless beaurocrats.
Why not take a stand ourselves as the Council will do nothing. These people have deliberately forced a gate open, surely that is a crime in itself. I am sure if I crow barred the gate to park up for a few days, I would have already been moved. As pointed out, it is also a SSSI and a Nature Reserve. Therefore, camping is illegal. So one asks why are they allowed to stay there. Oh yes, it is because of their rights, the stupid rights set up by who. Along with the ever put in your face orders by the Echo. Is it not time that the Echo supported the very people that they publish to. Perhaps a total ban on the purchase of the Echo will make them see our views. As for the Council, they are a useless and pointless enterprise who are so scared of upsetting a minority. The children that you represent and built the play area for is now empty. No rightful parent wants to place their children in that environment when such foul mouth, filthy letches are permitted to spoil our open spaces. It is disgusting, apalling, and the Council should be ashamed of themselves for being such downtrodden, lets give them what they want, spineless beaurocrats. TheDistrict
  • Score: 16

10:06am Thu 17 Jul 14

G from Kinson says...

Could not agree more!
The fact is that if anyone is found camping on site( which has happened in the past),the Council and Police move them straight away.This has included eastern Europeans, so what is the difference?
Could not agree more! The fact is that if anyone is found camping on site( which has happened in the past),the Council and Police move them straight away.This has included eastern Europeans, so what is the difference? G from Kinson
  • Score: 11

10:08am Thu 17 Jul 14

Hessenford says...

melting pot wrote:
How about Dorset roads policing pay them a visit and properly check the traders policies......Most traders policies relate to vehicles being used for work purposes. All the ones towing caravans are not being used for commercial purposes so may not be insured..... Easy innit seizures of vehicles and six points all round.

Of course to not upset these people the police could say go now or have your vehicle seized.

I've seen this done in a neighbouring county.It works!!

Oh I forgot Dorset traffic department has been cut so much it doesn't really exist anymore
It does exist but only to set up mobile speed cameras with usually 3 or 4 officers present, about half of Dorset police.
[quote][p][bold]melting pot[/bold] wrote: How about Dorset roads policing pay them a visit and properly check the traders policies......Most traders policies relate to vehicles being used for work purposes. All the ones towing caravans are not being used for commercial purposes so may not be insured..... Easy innit seizures of vehicles and six points all round. Of course to not upset these people the police could say go now or have your vehicle seized. I've seen this done in a neighbouring county.It works!! Oh I forgot Dorset traffic department has been cut so much it doesn't really exist anymore[/p][/quote]It does exist but only to set up mobile speed cameras with usually 3 or 4 officers present, about half of Dorset police. Hessenford
  • Score: 10

10:27am Thu 17 Jul 14

new2it says...

I can never understand how it takes so long to move them. Surely they are committing offences, breaking in, trespassing, leaving litter, and worse. to name but a few. If anybody else did this, we would soon be moved along. Saw a couple of young lads with a small tent by the river once, doing absolutely nothing wrong that I could see, but they were being moved, because camping is not allowed there, and yet these people seem to get a way with it. Is it because of safety in numbers? It looks as though a gate has now been put at Granby Road car park, presumably to stop this happening, which will also mean that nobody else will be able to use it.
I can never understand how it takes so long to move them. Surely they are committing offences, breaking in, trespassing, leaving litter, and worse. to name but a few. If anybody else did this, we would soon be moved along. Saw a couple of young lads with a small tent by the river once, doing absolutely nothing wrong that I could see, but they were being moved, because camping is not allowed there, and yet these people seem to get a way with it. Is it because of safety in numbers? It looks as though a gate has now been put at Granby Road car park, presumably to stop this happening, which will also mean that nobody else will be able to use it. new2it
  • Score: 8

11:03am Thu 17 Jul 14

melting pot says...

"Go call the vigilante he'll turn this place upside down. Go call the vigilante he don't get kicked around"

Words from a song that's all. Couldn't condone such action..............
...obviously!!
"Go call the vigilante he'll turn this place upside down. Go call the vigilante he don't get kicked around" Words from a song that's all. Couldn't condone such action.............. ...obviously!! melting pot
  • Score: 8

11:20am Thu 17 Jul 14

politicaltrainspotter says...

Bob49 wrote:
politicaltrainspotte

r
wrote:
Bob49 wrote:
politicaltrainspotte



r
wrote:
Like you all I am sick and tired of the council and other agencies bowing to political correctness.If I was to break the lock,i quite rightly would be charged with criminal damage.And the fact is if there were legal travelers sites then they would not be used.

Summers here and the 'so called travelers' emerge waving the ethnic rights card.Well all that does is make the authorities look weak.Take their registrations and kick them out then start proceedings with bayliffs to take away their trailers.Political correctness killed this country and britishness.
oh dear, out pops the "political corectness gone mad" brigade

perhaps one day one of these Animal Farm sheep will stop bleating out what they are told and actually find someone to explain to them that this problem is caused by a ruling made by an English judge in an English court

the authorities are obliged to follow the law - or what the above poster have them break the law ?

where then any complaint about law breaking ?
Seems like you'd welcome them then ? Problem solved.
No. you are just making up stuff as before.

This problem, and it is a problem, not an ishoooooo needs dealing with. However as long as ridiculous nonsense as put out by yourself constantly clouds the question then it is always going to be all that much more difficult to get this sorted.

So why not actually read up on what this ruling was in 2000, and what it's implications are for the both the police and local authorities - and stop bleating out these witless and idiotic cliches.
The reality is that travelers are not recognized as an ethnic minority in Ireland.Regardless of what one judge states does not give them the right to break the law.Three caravans were first on scene then then the police arrived and let the rest of them on.Yesterday, a woman was threatened.The mothers who attend Kinson primary school are frightened.The council have suggested it will take ten days to remove them

So you go and live in your politically correctly world and I will live in my non-politically correct world.
[quote][p][bold]Bob49[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]politicaltrainspotte r[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bob49[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]politicaltrainspotte r[/bold] wrote: Like you all I am sick and tired of the council and other agencies bowing to political correctness.If I was to break the lock,i quite rightly would be charged with criminal damage.And the fact is if there were legal travelers sites then they would not be used. Summers here and the 'so called travelers' emerge waving the ethnic rights card.Well all that does is make the authorities look weak.Take their registrations and kick them out then start proceedings with bayliffs to take away their trailers.Political correctness killed this country and britishness.[/p][/quote]oh dear, out pops the "political corectness gone mad" brigade perhaps one day one of these Animal Farm sheep will stop bleating out what they are told and actually find someone to explain to them that this problem is caused by a ruling made by an English judge in an English court the authorities are obliged to follow the law - or what the above poster have them break the law ? where then any complaint about law breaking ?[/p][/quote]Seems like you'd welcome them then ? Problem solved.[/p][/quote]No. you are just making up stuff as before. This problem, and it is a problem, not an ishoooooo needs dealing with. However as long as ridiculous nonsense as put out by yourself constantly clouds the question then it is always going to be all that much more difficult to get this sorted. So why not actually read up on what this ruling was in 2000, and what it's implications are for the both the police and local authorities - and stop bleating out these witless and idiotic cliches.[/p][/quote]The reality is that travelers are not recognized as an ethnic minority in Ireland.Regardless of what one judge states does not give them the right to break the law.Three caravans were first on scene then then the police arrived and let the rest of them on.Yesterday, a woman was threatened.The mothers who attend Kinson primary school are frightened.The council have suggested it will take ten days to remove them So you go and live in your politically correctly world and I will live in my non-politically correct world. politicaltrainspotter
  • Score: 15

11:44am Thu 17 Jul 14

speedy231278 says...

Carolyn43 wrote:
They'll be gone by 27th August when the Steam Fair starts.

Oh dear! That means they'll miss he air show which starts on 28th.
Good! They'd probably have away all the fittings from the marquees and weigh it all in....
[quote][p][bold]Carolyn43[/bold] wrote: They'll be gone by 27th August when the Steam Fair starts. Oh dear! That means they'll miss he air show which starts on 28th.[/p][/quote]Good! They'd probably have away all the fittings from the marquees and weigh it all in.... speedy231278
  • Score: 7

11:45am Thu 17 Jul 14

rogerlu says...

Why not just provide them with a proper site for their use?
Why not just provide them with a proper site for their use? rogerlu
  • Score: -13

11:51am Thu 17 Jul 14

kinsonjim says...

WE have provided proper sites for these 'scroungers' many times over the years. The thanks WE got was for them to steal everything that could be sold and what was un-saleable was trashed.
WE have provided proper sites for these 'scroungers' many times over the years. The thanks WE got was for them to steal everything that could be sold and what was un-saleable was trashed. kinsonjim
  • Score: 17

11:53am Thu 17 Jul 14

burgerboy says...

rogerlu wrote:
Why not just provide them with a proper site for their use?
Why should we provide them with anything..........
[quote][p][bold]rogerlu[/bold] wrote: Why not just provide them with a proper site for their use?[/p][/quote]Why should we provide them with anything.......... burgerboy
  • Score: 21

12:12pm Thu 17 Jul 14

Argie Bhagie says...

As this occurs severla time severy year, why not have an article from a lawyer giving the legal position. I am sure the Echo has a lawyer who will be happy to comment.
1. Are there legal powers to remove vehicles trespassing?
2. Are caravans with gas and propane, which are parking (illegally) not subject to Health and Safety implications?
3. Are the police conspiring with said Travellers to exepmpt them from the law?
4. Is it the case that councils and police will excrete themselves white if it is suggested they are harassing an ethnic group?
As this occurs severla time severy year, why not have an article from a lawyer giving the legal position. I am sure the Echo has a lawyer who will be happy to comment. 1. Are there legal powers to remove vehicles trespassing? 2. Are caravans with gas and propane, which are parking (illegally) not subject to Health and Safety implications? 3. Are the police conspiring with said Travellers to exepmpt them from the law? 4. Is it the case that councils and police will excrete themselves white if it is suggested they are harassing an ethnic group? Argie Bhagie
  • Score: 12

1:04pm Thu 17 Jul 14

Argie Bhagie says...

In the past a local problem would have been sorted by the locals.

Now the Kinson locals obviously would rather sit at home, watching Jeremy Kyle, smoking knocked off fags and drinking cheap beer, than do anything about any problem.

OOOOh I'm not going out - it's scarey outside.
In the past a local problem would have been sorted by the locals. Now the Kinson locals obviously would rather sit at home, watching Jeremy Kyle, smoking knocked off fags and drinking cheap beer, than do anything about any problem. OOOOh I'm not going out - it's scarey outside. Argie Bhagie
  • Score: 6

1:21pm Thu 17 Jul 14

burgerboy says...

Argie Bhagie wrote:
In the past a local problem would have been sorted by the locals.

Now the Kinson locals obviously would rather sit at home, watching Jeremy Kyle, smoking knocked off fags and drinking cheap beer, than do anything about any problem.

OOOOh I'm not going out - it's scarey outside.
You will know when the travellers are starting to worry about the locals is when they park their caravans and campers in a big circle like they did in the old wild west......(;o)
[quote][p][bold]Argie Bhagie[/bold] wrote: In the past a local problem would have been sorted by the locals. Now the Kinson locals obviously would rather sit at home, watching Jeremy Kyle, smoking knocked off fags and drinking cheap beer, than do anything about any problem. OOOOh I'm not going out - it's scarey outside.[/p][/quote]You will know when the travellers are starting to worry about the locals is when they park their caravans and campers in a big circle like they did in the old wild west......(;o) burgerboy
  • Score: 6

7:38pm Thu 17 Jul 14

Dorset Logic says...

Look on the bright side, it's actually put house prices up in Kinson.
Look on the bright side, it's actually put house prices up in Kinson. Dorset Logic
  • Score: 1

7:40pm Thu 17 Jul 14

Dorset Logic says...

Hessenford wrote:
MMM444 wrote:
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Useless comment, now wake up, you'll be late for signing on.
I think you will find all comments are useless by there very nature. zzzzz
[quote][p][bold]Hessenford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MMM444[/bold] wrote: ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ[/p][/quote]Useless comment, now wake up, you'll be late for signing on.[/p][/quote]I think you will find all comments are useless by there very nature. zzzzz Dorset Logic
  • Score: -4

7:41pm Thu 17 Jul 14

Dorset Logic says...

Dorset Logic wrote:
Hessenford wrote:
MMM444 wrote:
ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ



ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
Useless comment, now wake up, you'll be late for signing on.
I think you will find all comments are useless by there very nature. zzzzz
typo comments accepted and processed.
[quote][p][bold]Dorset Logic[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hessenford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MMM444[/bold] wrote: ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ[/p][/quote]Useless comment, now wake up, you'll be late for signing on.[/p][/quote]I think you will find all comments are useless by there very nature. zzzzz[/p][/quote]typo comments accepted and processed. Dorset Logic
  • Score: -1

9:27am Fri 18 Jul 14

G from Kinson says...

3 caravans have left Kinson Common this morning and the rest look like they are leaving soon....Hooray!
3 caravans have left Kinson Common this morning and the rest look like they are leaving soon....Hooray! G from Kinson
  • Score: 6

1:19pm Fri 18 Jul 14

born2bongo says...

The one good thing about travellers is they move on. There's quite a few people around Bournemouth I wish would get some wheels.
The one good thing about travellers is they move on. There's quite a few people around Bournemouth I wish would get some wheels. born2bongo
  • Score: 4

6:54pm Fri 18 Jul 14

Bob49 says...

politicaltrainspotte
r
wrote:
Bob49 wrote:
politicaltrainspotte


r
wrote:
Bob49 wrote:
politicaltrainspotte




r
wrote:
Like you all I am sick and tired of the council and other agencies bowing to political correctness.If I was to break the lock,i quite rightly would be charged with criminal damage.And the fact is if there were legal travelers sites then they would not be used.

Summers here and the 'so called travelers' emerge waving the ethnic rights card.Well all that does is make the authorities look weak.Take their registrations and kick them out then start proceedings with bayliffs to take away their trailers.Political correctness killed this country and britishness.
oh dear, out pops the "political corectness gone mad" brigade

perhaps one day one of these Animal Farm sheep will stop bleating out what they are told and actually find someone to explain to them that this problem is caused by a ruling made by an English judge in an English court

the authorities are obliged to follow the law - or what the above poster have them break the law ?

where then any complaint about law breaking ?
Seems like you'd welcome them then ? Problem solved.
No. you are just making up stuff as before.

This problem, and it is a problem, not an ishoooooo needs dealing with. However as long as ridiculous nonsense as put out by yourself constantly clouds the question then it is always going to be all that much more difficult to get this sorted.

So why not actually read up on what this ruling was in 2000, and what it's implications are for the both the police and local authorities - and stop bleating out these witless and idiotic cliches.
The reality is that travelers are not recognized as an ethnic minority in Ireland.Regardless of what one judge states does not give them the right to break the law.Three caravans were first on scene then then the police arrived and let the rest of them on.Yesterday, a woman was threatened.The mothers who attend Kinson primary school are frightened.The council have suggested it will take ten days to remove them

So you go and live in your politically correctly world and I will live in my non-politically correct world.
jeez, you are completely clueless

they ARE NOT in ireland therefore it is UK law they are subject to

what laws have they broken ?

none as they know the law inside out and will be careful to avoid breaking a law - but will do everything to stretch the letter of most laws, hence the ability to access seemingly locked areas.

again, if you stop bleating out this nonsensical guff about political correctness like you are some brain dead sheep out of animal farm to might begin to grasp how this annual nuiscance might be challneged and eventually stop

but as long as you and the terminally dimwitted Daily Mailer do the ddirty work for these parasites then they will continue to cause problems

get some one with a IQ in double figures to point out that ruling and explain what I mean by challenging them

stop helping them !
[quote][p][bold]politicaltrainspotte r[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bob49[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]politicaltrainspotte r[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bob49[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]politicaltrainspotte r[/bold] wrote: Like you all I am sick and tired of the council and other agencies bowing to political correctness.If I was to break the lock,i quite rightly would be charged with criminal damage.And the fact is if there were legal travelers sites then they would not be used. Summers here and the 'so called travelers' emerge waving the ethnic rights card.Well all that does is make the authorities look weak.Take their registrations and kick them out then start proceedings with bayliffs to take away their trailers.Political correctness killed this country and britishness.[/p][/quote]oh dear, out pops the "political corectness gone mad" brigade perhaps one day one of these Animal Farm sheep will stop bleating out what they are told and actually find someone to explain to them that this problem is caused by a ruling made by an English judge in an English court the authorities are obliged to follow the law - or what the above poster have them break the law ? where then any complaint about law breaking ?[/p][/quote]Seems like you'd welcome them then ? Problem solved.[/p][/quote]No. you are just making up stuff as before. This problem, and it is a problem, not an ishoooooo needs dealing with. However as long as ridiculous nonsense as put out by yourself constantly clouds the question then it is always going to be all that much more difficult to get this sorted. So why not actually read up on what this ruling was in 2000, and what it's implications are for the both the police and local authorities - and stop bleating out these witless and idiotic cliches.[/p][/quote]The reality is that travelers are not recognized as an ethnic minority in Ireland.Regardless of what one judge states does not give them the right to break the law.Three caravans were first on scene then then the police arrived and let the rest of them on.Yesterday, a woman was threatened.The mothers who attend Kinson primary school are frightened.The council have suggested it will take ten days to remove them So you go and live in your politically correctly world and I will live in my non-politically correct world.[/p][/quote]jeez, you are completely clueless they ARE NOT in ireland therefore it is UK law they are subject to what laws have they broken ? none as they know the law inside out and will be careful to avoid breaking a law - but will do everything to stretch the letter of most laws, hence the ability to access seemingly locked areas. again, if you stop bleating out this nonsensical guff about political correctness like you are some brain dead sheep out of animal farm to might begin to grasp how this annual nuiscance might be challneged and eventually stop but as long as you and the terminally dimwitted Daily Mailer do the ddirty work for these parasites then they will continue to cause problems get some one with a IQ in double figures to point out that ruling and explain what I mean by challenging them stop helping them ! Bob49
  • Score: 5

10:57am Sat 19 Jul 14

G from Kinson says...

Remaining travellers left Kinson Common last night.
Remaining travellers left Kinson Common last night. G from Kinson
  • Score: 4

8:46pm Sat 19 Jul 14

cromwell9 says...

Hessenford wrote:
Here we go again, council will supply skips and toilets and we will foot the cost yet again, they pay nothing and produce nothing except a whole lot of rubbish .
Grow some balls councils, bulldozers and chains at the ready and pull or push them off.
You can thank LIB DEMS /LABOUR for all of this ,It was their policys that has brought all this on our heads .
In Ireland they kicked them all out ,most of them came over here ,
As soon as the Great Dorset Steam fair endsin Sept ,They will all move back to Ireland in their Posh Houses ,Live on their hard summer earnings,And come back over in the Spring,
Whats wrong with that ?.
[quote][p][bold]Hessenford[/bold] wrote: Here we go again, council will supply skips and toilets and we will foot the cost yet again, they pay nothing and produce nothing except a whole lot of rubbish . Grow some balls councils, bulldozers and chains at the ready and pull or push them off.[/p][/quote]You can thank LIB DEMS /LABOUR for all of this ,It was their policys that has brought all this on our heads . In Ireland they kicked them all out ,most of them came over here , As soon as the Great Dorset Steam fair endsin Sept ,They will all move back to Ireland in their Posh Houses ,Live on their hard summer earnings,And come back over in the Spring, Whats wrong with that ?. cromwell9
  • Score: 1

9:05pm Sat 19 Jul 14

G from Kinson says...

cromwell9 wrote:
Hessenford wrote:
Here we go again, council will supply skips and toilets and we will foot the cost yet again, they pay nothing and produce nothing except a whole lot of rubbish .
Grow some balls councils, bulldozers and chains at the ready and pull or push them off.
You can thank LIB DEMS /LABOUR for all of this ,It was their policys that has brought all this on our heads .
In Ireland they kicked them all out ,most of them came over here ,
As soon as the Great Dorset Steam fair endsin Sept ,They will all move back to Ireland in their Posh Houses ,Live on their hard summer earnings,And come back over in the Spring,
Whats wrong with that ?.
Not all the travellers on Kinson Common were Irish!
[quote][p][bold]cromwell9[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hessenford[/bold] wrote: Here we go again, council will supply skips and toilets and we will foot the cost yet again, they pay nothing and produce nothing except a whole lot of rubbish . Grow some balls councils, bulldozers and chains at the ready and pull or push them off.[/p][/quote]You can thank LIB DEMS /LABOUR for all of this ,It was their policys that has brought all this on our heads . In Ireland they kicked them all out ,most of them came over here , As soon as the Great Dorset Steam fair endsin Sept ,They will all move back to Ireland in their Posh Houses ,Live on their hard summer earnings,And come back over in the Spring, Whats wrong with that ?.[/p][/quote]Not all the travellers on Kinson Common were Irish! G from Kinson
  • Score: 4

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