Castle Lane roadworks causing long tailbacks - and there are still six weeks to go

CONGESTION: Traffic builds up on Castle Lane West

CONGESTION: Traffic builds up on Castle Lane West

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WORK to improve cycling, walking and bus travel along Castle Lane West in Bournemouth is causing congestion for motorists.

There have been long tailbacks in the area since the works started July 7 at the junction with East Way and are not expected to be complete until the end of August.

Ian Kalra, head of transportation services at Bournemouth council, acknowledged the road is heavily used and that delays are inevitable.

“However when complete these measures will enhance the overall environment and provide communities with better options for how they travel to work, school and the shops,” he added.

“In the meantime we would urge users to bear with us and where possible find alternative routes.”

The council is undertaking the construction after gaining additional government funding to invest in transport facilities.

Cllr Michael Filer, cabinet member for transport, said Castle Lane West had been identified as a “key commuter route” for schools and businesses.

He added: “We want to ensure that all pedestrians and cyclists feel confident when travelling in and around this area, as well as encouraging others to travel more sustainably and lead a healthier lifestyle.

“By carrying out these works, we are making it easier, safer and more attractive for people to walk, cycle and use public transport, which will help reduce congestion in the long-term.”

Traffic travelling along Castle Lane West is being diverted via Charminster Road to access East Way from the south.

Residents will be able to access their properties during the improvements and bus services and refuse collections will not be affected.

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6:33am Wed 16 Jul 14

alasdair1967 says...

There have been long tailbacks since work started on the 7th of July , guess it's slow news day considering it's now the 16th July ,
There have been long tailbacks since work started on the 7th of July , guess it's slow news day considering it's now the 16th July , alasdair1967
  • Score: 16

6:35am Wed 16 Jul 14

fedupwithjobsworths says...

“However when complete these measures will enhance the overall environment and provide communities with better options for how they travel to work, school and the shops,”

Can we assume the council is planning to monitor the outcome of this to check how many more people cycle, walk or use public transport as a result of this costly scheme? I suspect its another tick in the box scheme which will end up increasing congestion and pollution, 30000 cars use this road each day but how many cyclists or buses I wonder. Should widen the road instead.
“However when complete these measures will enhance the overall environment and provide communities with better options for how they travel to work, school and the shops,” Can we assume the council is planning to monitor the outcome of this to check how many more people cycle, walk or use public transport as a result of this costly scheme? I suspect its another tick in the box scheme which will end up increasing congestion and pollution, 30000 cars use this road each day but how many cyclists or buses I wonder. Should widen the road instead. fedupwithjobsworths
  • Score: 31

7:27am Wed 16 Jul 14

failte says...

As a local resident living near these schools and roadworks I doubt that these so called improvements will make any difference. There is already a cycle lane in place that is rarely used and most of the kids are driven to school or drive themselves. This money would have been better spent on undoing the mistakes made already at the Broadway roundabout and Bath Hill etc where the two lanes have been made into one. Can any one tell me does this Mr Filer drive?
As a local resident living near these schools and roadworks I doubt that these so called improvements will make any difference. There is already a cycle lane in place that is rarely used and most of the kids are driven to school or drive themselves. This money would have been better spent on undoing the mistakes made already at the Broadway roundabout and Bath Hill etc where the two lanes have been made into one. Can any one tell me does this Mr Filer drive? failte
  • Score: 22

7:51am Wed 16 Jul 14

djd says...

failte wrote:
As a local resident living near these schools and roadworks I doubt that these so called improvements will make any difference. There is already a cycle lane in place that is rarely used and most of the kids are driven to school or drive themselves. This money would have been better spent on undoing the mistakes made already at the Broadway roundabout and Bath Hill etc where the two lanes have been made into one. Can any one tell me does this Mr Filer drive?
Certainly not along Castle Lane for three weeks if he's got any sense.
[quote][p][bold]failte[/bold] wrote: As a local resident living near these schools and roadworks I doubt that these so called improvements will make any difference. There is already a cycle lane in place that is rarely used and most of the kids are driven to school or drive themselves. This money would have been better spent on undoing the mistakes made already at the Broadway roundabout and Bath Hill etc where the two lanes have been made into one. Can any one tell me does this Mr Filer drive?[/p][/quote]Certainly not along Castle Lane for three weeks if he's got any sense. djd
  • Score: 21

8:01am Wed 16 Jul 14

rayc says...

"WORK to improve cycling, walking and bus travel along Castle Lane West in Bournemouth is causing congestion for motorists."
As it will when the scheme is completed. It is about improving things for cyclists,bus users and pedestrians not motorists.
"WORK to improve cycling, walking and bus travel along Castle Lane West in Bournemouth is causing congestion for motorists." As it will when the scheme is completed. It is about improving things for cyclists,bus users and pedestrians not motorists. rayc
  • Score: 6

8:21am Wed 16 Jul 14

crazycrane3 says...

Will 2 dangerous slip roads be vastly improved one day - Richmond Hill one that joins the dual carriageway , it's tiny and cars are coming round a corner to meet it! Then Blackwater Junction slip road that joins onto the Spur Road. Crazy how these still haven't been looked at.
Will 2 dangerous slip roads be vastly improved one day - Richmond Hill one that joins the dual carriageway , it's tiny and cars are coming round a corner to meet it! Then Blackwater Junction slip road that joins onto the Spur Road. Crazy how these still haven't been looked at. crazycrane3
  • Score: 17

8:30am Wed 16 Jul 14

dorsetgills says...

There delusional on improved traffic improvements. Why would you wanna use a bus takes forever to get anywhere and cost a bomb!!!!
There delusional on improved traffic improvements. Why would you wanna use a bus takes forever to get anywhere and cost a bomb!!!! dorsetgills
  • Score: 13

8:35am Wed 16 Jul 14

Harpenter says...

In the past the council have boasted about the significant increase in tourists being attracted to Bournemouth, so why choose the the areas busiest time of the year to make drastic 'improvements' on one of Bournemouths busiest and generally congested main routes ?!? #baffled
In the past the council have boasted about the significant increase in tourists being attracted to Bournemouth, so why choose the the areas busiest time of the year to make drastic 'improvements' on one of Bournemouths busiest and generally congested main routes ?!? #baffled Harpenter
  • Score: 18

8:51am Wed 16 Jul 14

whataboutthat says...

You ran this story last week...
You ran this story last week... whataboutthat
  • Score: 2

8:59am Wed 16 Jul 14

scrumpyjack says...

crazycrane3 wrote:
Will 2 dangerous slip roads be vastly improved one day - Richmond Hill one that joins the dual carriageway , it's tiny and cars are coming round a corner to meet it! Then Blackwater Junction slip road that joins onto the Spur Road. Crazy how these still haven't been looked at.
Some of us find them ok.

Well when I say some, obviously I mean the tens of thousands who use them every day without incident....
[quote][p][bold]crazycrane3[/bold] wrote: Will 2 dangerous slip roads be vastly improved one day - Richmond Hill one that joins the dual carriageway , it's tiny and cars are coming round a corner to meet it! Then Blackwater Junction slip road that joins onto the Spur Road. Crazy how these still haven't been looked at.[/p][/quote]Some of us find them ok. Well when I say some, obviously I mean the tens of thousands who use them every day without incident.... scrumpyjack
  • Score: 3

9:07am Wed 16 Jul 14

scrumpyjack says...

dorsetgills wrote:
There delusional on improved traffic improvements. Why would you wanna use a bus takes forever to get anywhere and cost a bomb!!!!
The problem is traffic is getting worse and worse and even using a car 'takes forever'.

Unless they bite the bullet and do something now it will be too late and the town will be grid locked, just maybe if they get a good bus lane system that allows buses to smoothly undercut all the queuing cars people will start to use them. Kids using the bus rather than the school run? People working in and around the centre? OAPs? All might be considered as highly likely to convert if the alternative was made more attractive than as you point out it currently is.
[quote][p][bold]dorsetgills[/bold] wrote: There delusional on improved traffic improvements. Why would you wanna use a bus takes forever to get anywhere and cost a bomb!!!![/p][/quote]The problem is traffic is getting worse and worse and even using a car 'takes forever'. Unless they bite the bullet and do something now it will be too late and the town will be grid locked, just maybe if they get a good bus lane system that allows buses to smoothly undercut all the queuing cars people will start to use them. Kids using the bus rather than the school run? People working in and around the centre? OAPs? All might be considered as highly likely to convert if the alternative was made more attractive than as you point out it currently is. scrumpyjack
  • Score: 0

9:09am Wed 16 Jul 14

suzigirl says...

I hope that cyclists will take advantage of the new cycle lanes like they do at Sandford - NOT!
I hope that cyclists will take advantage of the new cycle lanes like they do at Sandford - NOT! suzigirl
  • Score: 4

9:14am Wed 16 Jul 14

Hessenford says...

rayc wrote:
"WORK to improve cycling, walking and bus travel along Castle Lane West in Bournemouth is causing congestion for motorists."
As it will when the scheme is completed. It is about improving things for cyclists,bus users and pedestrians not motorists.
Seems an awful lot of money and an awful lot of upheaval to improve cycling, walking and bus travel for a small minority, any improvements to improve things for all, if this vast amount of money is being spent for the selected few its a pity more money hasn't been made available to repair potholes which would improve safety for everyone,
Bus lanes and cycle lanes have made the roads more dangerous than they were before.
[quote][p][bold]rayc[/bold] wrote: "WORK to improve cycling, walking and bus travel along Castle Lane West in Bournemouth is causing congestion for motorists." As it will when the scheme is completed. It is about improving things for cyclists,bus users and pedestrians not motorists.[/p][/quote]Seems an awful lot of money and an awful lot of upheaval to improve cycling, walking and bus travel for a small minority, any improvements to improve things for all, if this vast amount of money is being spent for the selected few its a pity more money hasn't been made available to repair potholes which would improve safety for everyone, Bus lanes and cycle lanes have made the roads more dangerous than they were before. Hessenford
  • Score: 13

9:23am Wed 16 Jul 14

Hessenford says...

scrumpyjack wrote:
dorsetgills wrote:
There delusional on improved traffic improvements. Why would you wanna use a bus takes forever to get anywhere and cost a bomb!!!!
The problem is traffic is getting worse and worse and even using a car 'takes forever'.

Unless they bite the bullet and do something now it will be too late and the town will be grid locked, just maybe if they get a good bus lane system that allows buses to smoothly undercut all the queuing cars people will start to use them. Kids using the bus rather than the school run? People working in and around the centre? OAPs? All might be considered as highly likely to convert if the alternative was made more attractive than as you point out it currently is.
Not while it costs a mortgage to go a couple of miles on the bus.
[quote][p][bold]scrumpyjack[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dorsetgills[/bold] wrote: There delusional on improved traffic improvements. Why would you wanna use a bus takes forever to get anywhere and cost a bomb!!!![/p][/quote]The problem is traffic is getting worse and worse and even using a car 'takes forever'. Unless they bite the bullet and do something now it will be too late and the town will be grid locked, just maybe if they get a good bus lane system that allows buses to smoothly undercut all the queuing cars people will start to use them. Kids using the bus rather than the school run? People working in and around the centre? OAPs? All might be considered as highly likely to convert if the alternative was made more attractive than as you point out it currently is.[/p][/quote]Not while it costs a mortgage to go a couple of miles on the bus. Hessenford
  • Score: 1

9:30am Wed 16 Jul 14

misplacedspaniard says...

Hessenford wrote:
scrumpyjack wrote:
dorsetgills wrote:
There delusional on improved traffic improvements. Why would you wanna use a bus takes forever to get anywhere and cost a bomb!!!!
The problem is traffic is getting worse and worse and even using a car 'takes forever'.

Unless they bite the bullet and do something now it will be too late and the town will be grid locked, just maybe if they get a good bus lane system that allows buses to smoothly undercut all the queuing cars people will start to use them. Kids using the bus rather than the school run? People working in and around the centre? OAPs? All might be considered as highly likely to convert if the alternative was made more attractive than as you point out it currently is.
Not while it costs a mortgage to go a couple of miles on the bus.
It costs too much for paying passengers because the oaps get on for free. Disgusting ageist country
[quote][p][bold]Hessenford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]scrumpyjack[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dorsetgills[/bold] wrote: There delusional on improved traffic improvements. Why would you wanna use a bus takes forever to get anywhere and cost a bomb!!!![/p][/quote]The problem is traffic is getting worse and worse and even using a car 'takes forever'. Unless they bite the bullet and do something now it will be too late and the town will be grid locked, just maybe if they get a good bus lane system that allows buses to smoothly undercut all the queuing cars people will start to use them. Kids using the bus rather than the school run? People working in and around the centre? OAPs? All might be considered as highly likely to convert if the alternative was made more attractive than as you point out it currently is.[/p][/quote]Not while it costs a mortgage to go a couple of miles on the bus.[/p][/quote]It costs too much for paying passengers because the oaps get on for free. Disgusting ageist country misplacedspaniard
  • Score: -9

9:48am Wed 16 Jul 14

Hessenford says...

misplacedspaniard wrote:
Hessenford wrote:
scrumpyjack wrote:
dorsetgills wrote:
There delusional on improved traffic improvements. Why would you wanna use a bus takes forever to get anywhere and cost a bomb!!!!
The problem is traffic is getting worse and worse and even using a car 'takes forever'.

Unless they bite the bullet and do something now it will be too late and the town will be grid locked, just maybe if they get a good bus lane system that allows buses to smoothly undercut all the queuing cars people will start to use them. Kids using the bus rather than the school run? People working in and around the centre? OAPs? All might be considered as highly likely to convert if the alternative was made more attractive than as you point out it currently is.
Not while it costs a mortgage to go a couple of miles on the bus.
It costs too much for paying passengers because the oaps get on for free. Disgusting ageist country
High bus fares are nothing to do with free bus passes, bus companies claim the money back from local councils.
[quote][p][bold]misplacedspaniard[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hessenford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]scrumpyjack[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dorsetgills[/bold] wrote: There delusional on improved traffic improvements. Why would you wanna use a bus takes forever to get anywhere and cost a bomb!!!![/p][/quote]The problem is traffic is getting worse and worse and even using a car 'takes forever'. Unless they bite the bullet and do something now it will be too late and the town will be grid locked, just maybe if they get a good bus lane system that allows buses to smoothly undercut all the queuing cars people will start to use them. Kids using the bus rather than the school run? People working in and around the centre? OAPs? All might be considered as highly likely to convert if the alternative was made more attractive than as you point out it currently is.[/p][/quote]Not while it costs a mortgage to go a couple of miles on the bus.[/p][/quote]It costs too much for paying passengers because the oaps get on for free. Disgusting ageist country[/p][/quote]High bus fares are nothing to do with free bus passes, bus companies claim the money back from local councils. Hessenford
  • Score: 7

9:54am Wed 16 Jul 14

Victor_Meldrew_Lives! says...

There really must be an endless supply of councillors with their heads stuck up their backsides.
There really must be an endless supply of councillors with their heads stuck up their backsides. Victor_Meldrew_Lives!
  • Score: 6

9:55am Wed 16 Jul 14

Redgolfer says...

failte wrote:
As a local resident living near these schools and roadworks I doubt that these so called improvements will make any difference. There is already a cycle lane in place that is rarely used and most of the kids are driven to school or drive themselves. This money would have been better spent on undoing the mistakes made already at the Broadway roundabout and Bath Hill etc where the two lanes have been made into one. Can any one tell me does this Mr Filer drive?
YES DRIVES THE RATEPAYERS POTTY ???
[quote][p][bold]failte[/bold] wrote: As a local resident living near these schools and roadworks I doubt that these so called improvements will make any difference. There is already a cycle lane in place that is rarely used and most of the kids are driven to school or drive themselves. This money would have been better spent on undoing the mistakes made already at the Broadway roundabout and Bath Hill etc where the two lanes have been made into one. Can any one tell me does this Mr Filer drive?[/p][/quote]YES DRIVES THE RATEPAYERS POTTY ??? Redgolfer
  • Score: 5

10:01am Wed 16 Jul 14

Hessenford says...

Harpenter wrote:
In the past the council have boasted about the significant increase in tourists being attracted to Bournemouth, so why choose the the areas busiest time of the year to make drastic 'improvements' on one of Bournemouths busiest and generally congested main routes ?!? #baffled
It seems that the council believe tourists will be arriving by bike in the future.
[quote][p][bold]Harpenter[/bold] wrote: In the past the council have boasted about the significant increase in tourists being attracted to Bournemouth, so why choose the the areas busiest time of the year to make drastic 'improvements' on one of Bournemouths busiest and generally congested main routes ?!? #baffled[/p][/quote]It seems that the council believe tourists will be arriving by bike in the future. Hessenford
  • Score: 6

10:21am Wed 16 Jul 14

PeachesRolls says...

I'm sure there are good reasons "why not" but given the number of schools in this area, couldn't these works have waited just a couple of weeks when the schools will be on holiday for the summer? just asking!!!
I'm sure there are good reasons "why not" but given the number of schools in this area, couldn't these works have waited just a couple of weeks when the schools will be on holiday for the summer? just asking!!! PeachesRolls
  • Score: 7

10:32am Wed 16 Jul 14

rayc says...

I don't claim to be a financial wizkid but anyone who thinks removing bus passes will lead to lower fares for everyone must be delusional. Many bus pass trips are optional rather than necessary. The bus companies are subsidised by the Government and the income would fall, together with bus services, if no bus pass were provided.
Perhaps ypu could ask Poole and Bournemouth Councils why their stated aims, in accordance with their Local transport Plans, of making car use unattractive compared to public transport are not working?
I don't claim to be a financial wizkid but anyone who thinks removing bus passes will lead to lower fares for everyone must be delusional. Many bus pass trips are optional rather than necessary. The bus companies are subsidised by the Government and the income would fall, together with bus services, if no bus pass were provided. Perhaps ypu could ask Poole and Bournemouth Councils why their stated aims, in accordance with their Local transport Plans, of making car use unattractive compared to public transport are not working? rayc
  • Score: 5

10:48am Wed 16 Jul 14

dorsetgills says...

scrumpyjack wrote:
dorsetgills wrote:
There delusional on improved traffic improvements. Why would you wanna use a bus takes forever to get anywhere and cost a bomb!!!!
The problem is traffic is getting worse and worse and even using a car 'takes forever'.

Unless they bite the bullet and do something now it will be too late and the town will be grid locked, just maybe if they get a good bus lane system that allows buses to smoothly undercut all the queuing cars people will start to use them. Kids using the bus rather than the school run? People working in and around the centre? OAPs? All might be considered as highly likely to convert if the alternative was made more attractive than as you point out it currently is.
So your telling me the bus I got the other week to southbourne which took 1hr beats the 15 min drive it always takes from Poole
Your delusional must work for the bus company or the council
[quote][p][bold]scrumpyjack[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dorsetgills[/bold] wrote: There delusional on improved traffic improvements. Why would you wanna use a bus takes forever to get anywhere and cost a bomb!!!![/p][/quote]The problem is traffic is getting worse and worse and even using a car 'takes forever'. Unless they bite the bullet and do something now it will be too late and the town will be grid locked, just maybe if they get a good bus lane system that allows buses to smoothly undercut all the queuing cars people will start to use them. Kids using the bus rather than the school run? People working in and around the centre? OAPs? All might be considered as highly likely to convert if the alternative was made more attractive than as you point out it currently is.[/p][/quote]So your telling me the bus I got the other week to southbourne which took 1hr beats the 15 min drive it always takes from Poole Your delusional must work for the bus company or the council dorsetgills
  • Score: 11

10:56am Wed 16 Jul 14

speedy231278 says...

Hessenford wrote:
misplacedspaniard wrote:
Hessenford wrote:
scrumpyjack wrote:
dorsetgills wrote:
There delusional on improved traffic improvements. Why would you wanna use a bus takes forever to get anywhere and cost a bomb!!!!
The problem is traffic is getting worse and worse and even using a car 'takes forever'.

Unless they bite the bullet and do something now it will be too late and the town will be grid locked, just maybe if they get a good bus lane system that allows buses to smoothly undercut all the queuing cars people will start to use them. Kids using the bus rather than the school run? People working in and around the centre? OAPs? All might be considered as highly likely to convert if the alternative was made more attractive than as you point out it currently is.
Not while it costs a mortgage to go a couple of miles on the bus.
It costs too much for paying passengers because the oaps get on for free. Disgusting ageist country
High bus fares are nothing to do with free bus passes, bus companies claim the money back from local councils.
Who then cannot afford to subsidise the minor routes, which then are removed by the bus operators as non-profitable....
[quote][p][bold]Hessenford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]misplacedspaniard[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hessenford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]scrumpyjack[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dorsetgills[/bold] wrote: There delusional on improved traffic improvements. Why would you wanna use a bus takes forever to get anywhere and cost a bomb!!!![/p][/quote]The problem is traffic is getting worse and worse and even using a car 'takes forever'. Unless they bite the bullet and do something now it will be too late and the town will be grid locked, just maybe if they get a good bus lane system that allows buses to smoothly undercut all the queuing cars people will start to use them. Kids using the bus rather than the school run? People working in and around the centre? OAPs? All might be considered as highly likely to convert if the alternative was made more attractive than as you point out it currently is.[/p][/quote]Not while it costs a mortgage to go a couple of miles on the bus.[/p][/quote]It costs too much for paying passengers because the oaps get on for free. Disgusting ageist country[/p][/quote]High bus fares are nothing to do with free bus passes, bus companies claim the money back from local councils.[/p][/quote]Who then cannot afford to subsidise the minor routes, which then are removed by the bus operators as non-profitable.... speedy231278
  • Score: 5

11:20am Wed 16 Jul 14

Hessenford says...

dorsetgills wrote:
scrumpyjack wrote:
dorsetgills wrote:
There delusional on improved traffic improvements. Why would you wanna use a bus takes forever to get anywhere and cost a bomb!!!!
The problem is traffic is getting worse and worse and even using a car 'takes forever'.

Unless they bite the bullet and do something now it will be too late and the town will be grid locked, just maybe if they get a good bus lane system that allows buses to smoothly undercut all the queuing cars people will start to use them. Kids using the bus rather than the school run? People working in and around the centre? OAPs? All might be considered as highly likely to convert if the alternative was made more attractive than as you point out it currently is.
So your telling me the bus I got the other week to southbourne which took 1hr beats the 15 min drive it always takes from Poole
Your delusional must work for the bus company or the council
And the drive was a lot cheaper no doubt.
[quote][p][bold]dorsetgills[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]scrumpyjack[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dorsetgills[/bold] wrote: There delusional on improved traffic improvements. Why would you wanna use a bus takes forever to get anywhere and cost a bomb!!!![/p][/quote]The problem is traffic is getting worse and worse and even using a car 'takes forever'. Unless they bite the bullet and do something now it will be too late and the town will be grid locked, just maybe if they get a good bus lane system that allows buses to smoothly undercut all the queuing cars people will start to use them. Kids using the bus rather than the school run? People working in and around the centre? OAPs? All might be considered as highly likely to convert if the alternative was made more attractive than as you point out it currently is.[/p][/quote]So your telling me the bus I got the other week to southbourne which took 1hr beats the 15 min drive it always takes from Poole Your delusional must work for the bus company or the council[/p][/quote]And the drive was a lot cheaper no doubt. Hessenford
  • Score: 2

11:45am Wed 16 Jul 14

Top_Gear says...

The short sighted comments criticising the effort to improve cycle infrastructre is amusing.

"Should widen the road instead."

What, so you can get to your next queue quicker?

Just find another route temprarily, or leave earlier. There have always been roadworks, always will be.
The short sighted comments criticising the effort to improve cycle infrastructre is amusing. "Should widen the road instead." What, so you can get to your next queue quicker? Just find another route temprarily, or leave earlier. There have always been roadworks, always will be. Top_Gear
  • Score: -7

11:47am Wed 16 Jul 14

muscliffman says...

Hessenford wrote:
rayc wrote:
"WORK to improve cycling, walking and bus travel along Castle Lane West in Bournemouth is causing congestion for motorists."
As it will when the scheme is completed. It is about improving things for cyclists,bus users and pedestrians not motorists.
Seems an awful lot of money and an awful lot of upheaval to improve cycling, walking and bus travel for a small minority, any improvements to improve things for all, if this vast amount of money is being spent for the selected few its a pity more money hasn't been made available to repair potholes which would improve safety for everyone,
Bus lanes and cycle lanes have made the roads more dangerous than they were before.
I agree and of course these works are not intended to be 'improvement's for the majority of people (aka voters!) who use Castle Lane in their own transport - in fact quite the opposite. The same also applies for anywhere else in this area that will be blighted by this pointless and unwanted 'Three Towns Travel' scheme.

Politically it has to be wondered why an allegedly Conservative Council is so blindly following this 'green' EU driven policy. Was the easy Government funding money the main attraction or do we have people in the Town Hall following their own significantly left of centre political agendas?
[quote][p][bold]Hessenford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rayc[/bold] wrote: "WORK to improve cycling, walking and bus travel along Castle Lane West in Bournemouth is causing congestion for motorists." As it will when the scheme is completed. It is about improving things for cyclists,bus users and pedestrians not motorists.[/p][/quote]Seems an awful lot of money and an awful lot of upheaval to improve cycling, walking and bus travel for a small minority, any improvements to improve things for all, if this vast amount of money is being spent for the selected few its a pity more money hasn't been made available to repair potholes which would improve safety for everyone, Bus lanes and cycle lanes have made the roads more dangerous than they were before.[/p][/quote]I agree and of course these works are not intended to be 'improvement's for the majority of people (aka voters!) who use Castle Lane in their own transport - in fact quite the opposite. The same also applies for anywhere else in this area that will be blighted by this pointless and unwanted 'Three Towns Travel' scheme. Politically it has to be wondered why an allegedly Conservative Council is so blindly following this 'green' EU driven policy. Was the easy Government funding money the main attraction or do we have people in the Town Hall following their own significantly left of centre political agendas? muscliffman
  • Score: 5

12:10pm Wed 16 Jul 14

dartguru says...

More money down the drain.

Whenever there are any improvements mooted to benefit motorists, there is always a lengthy consultation period where the views of everyone other than motorists are pandered to ad infinitum.

I don't remember there being much consultation here as to whether those funding this improvement actually wanted it.
More money down the drain. Whenever there are any improvements mooted to benefit motorists, there is always a lengthy consultation period where the views of everyone other than motorists are pandered to ad infinitum. I don't remember there being much consultation here as to whether those funding this improvement actually wanted it. dartguru
  • Score: 5

12:16pm Wed 16 Jul 14

ianexams says...

I have travelled past these road works on several occasions recently only ever see 4 to 6 men working no wonder the delays are endless needs treble manpower if they are to complete by August 31.
I have travelled past these road works on several occasions recently only ever see 4 to 6 men working no wonder the delays are endless needs treble manpower if they are to complete by August 31. ianexams
  • Score: 5

12:17pm Wed 16 Jul 14

muscliffman says...

rayc wrote:
I don't claim to be a financial wizkid but anyone who thinks removing bus passes will lead to lower fares for everyone must be delusional. Many bus pass trips are optional rather than necessary. The bus companies are subsidised by the Government and the income would fall, together with bus services, if no bus pass were provided.
Perhaps ypu could ask Poole and Bournemouth Councils why their stated aims, in accordance with their Local transport Plans, of making car use unattractive compared to public transport are not working?
In principle I would agree, but for rather different reasons.

You say "The bus companies are subsidised by the Government" - what do you base that very comprehensive statement upon?
[quote][p][bold]rayc[/bold] wrote: I don't claim to be a financial wizkid but anyone who thinks removing bus passes will lead to lower fares for everyone must be delusional. Many bus pass trips are optional rather than necessary. The bus companies are subsidised by the Government and the income would fall, together with bus services, if no bus pass were provided. Perhaps ypu could ask Poole and Bournemouth Councils why their stated aims, in accordance with their Local transport Plans, of making car use unattractive compared to public transport are not working?[/p][/quote]In principle I would agree, but for rather different reasons. You say "The bus companies are subsidised by the Government" - what do you base that very comprehensive statement upon? muscliffman
  • Score: 0

1:19pm Wed 16 Jul 14

fedupwithjobsworths says...

Part of the three clowns travel improvements?
Part of the three clowns travel improvements? fedupwithjobsworths
  • Score: 5

1:38pm Wed 16 Jul 14

muscliffman says...

Hessenford wrote:
misplacedspaniard wrote:
Hessenford wrote:
scrumpyjack wrote:
dorsetgills wrote:
There delusional on improved traffic improvements. Why would you wanna use a bus takes forever to get anywhere and cost a bomb!!!!
The problem is traffic is getting worse and worse and even using a car 'takes forever'.

Unless they bite the bullet and do something now it will be too late and the town will be grid locked, just maybe if they get a good bus lane system that allows buses to smoothly undercut all the queuing cars people will start to use them. Kids using the bus rather than the school run? People working in and around the centre? OAPs? All might be considered as highly likely to convert if the alternative was made more attractive than as you point out it currently is.
Not while it costs a mortgage to go a couple of miles on the bus.
It costs too much for paying passengers because the oaps get on for free. Disgusting ageist country
High bus fares are nothing to do with free bus passes, bus companies claim the money back from local councils.
Bus companies receive only a percentage of the fare appropropriate to each and every Bus Pass journey - it can be below 50% of the normal cash sum. So it certainly can be argued that non Bus Pass holders are paying higher cash fares because of the low Bus Pass reimbursement rates.
[quote][p][bold]Hessenford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]misplacedspaniard[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hessenford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]scrumpyjack[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dorsetgills[/bold] wrote: There delusional on improved traffic improvements. Why would you wanna use a bus takes forever to get anywhere and cost a bomb!!!![/p][/quote]The problem is traffic is getting worse and worse and even using a car 'takes forever'. Unless they bite the bullet and do something now it will be too late and the town will be grid locked, just maybe if they get a good bus lane system that allows buses to smoothly undercut all the queuing cars people will start to use them. Kids using the bus rather than the school run? People working in and around the centre? OAPs? All might be considered as highly likely to convert if the alternative was made more attractive than as you point out it currently is.[/p][/quote]Not while it costs a mortgage to go a couple of miles on the bus.[/p][/quote]It costs too much for paying passengers because the oaps get on for free. Disgusting ageist country[/p][/quote]High bus fares are nothing to do with free bus passes, bus companies claim the money back from local councils.[/p][/quote]Bus companies receive only a percentage of the fare appropropriate to each and every Bus Pass journey - it can be below 50% of the normal cash sum. So it certainly can be argued that non Bus Pass holders are paying higher cash fares because of the low Bus Pass reimbursement rates. muscliffman
  • Score: 3

2:20pm Wed 16 Jul 14

Hessenford says...

muscliffman wrote:
Hessenford wrote:
misplacedspaniard wrote:
Hessenford wrote:
scrumpyjack wrote:
dorsetgills wrote:
There delusional on improved traffic improvements. Why would you wanna use a bus takes forever to get anywhere and cost a bomb!!!!
The problem is traffic is getting worse and worse and even using a car 'takes forever'.

Unless they bite the bullet and do something now it will be too late and the town will be grid locked, just maybe if they get a good bus lane system that allows buses to smoothly undercut all the queuing cars people will start to use them. Kids using the bus rather than the school run? People working in and around the centre? OAPs? All might be considered as highly likely to convert if the alternative was made more attractive than as you point out it currently is.
Not while it costs a mortgage to go a couple of miles on the bus.
It costs too much for paying passengers because the oaps get on for free. Disgusting ageist country
High bus fares are nothing to do with free bus passes, bus companies claim the money back from local councils.
Bus companies receive only a percentage of the fare appropropriate to each and every Bus Pass journey - it can be below 50% of the normal cash sum. So it certainly can be argued that non Bus Pass holders are paying higher cash fares because of the low Bus Pass reimbursement rates.
Even so, bus pass holders cant use the bus during rush hour so I assume that if these bus pass holders never used the bus it would be driving about empty, at least their getting some money back rather than none at all.
[quote][p][bold]muscliffman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hessenford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]misplacedspaniard[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hessenford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]scrumpyjack[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dorsetgills[/bold] wrote: There delusional on improved traffic improvements. Why would you wanna use a bus takes forever to get anywhere and cost a bomb!!!![/p][/quote]The problem is traffic is getting worse and worse and even using a car 'takes forever'. Unless they bite the bullet and do something now it will be too late and the town will be grid locked, just maybe if they get a good bus lane system that allows buses to smoothly undercut all the queuing cars people will start to use them. Kids using the bus rather than the school run? People working in and around the centre? OAPs? All might be considered as highly likely to convert if the alternative was made more attractive than as you point out it currently is.[/p][/quote]Not while it costs a mortgage to go a couple of miles on the bus.[/p][/quote]It costs too much for paying passengers because the oaps get on for free. Disgusting ageist country[/p][/quote]High bus fares are nothing to do with free bus passes, bus companies claim the money back from local councils.[/p][/quote]Bus companies receive only a percentage of the fare appropropriate to each and every Bus Pass journey - it can be below 50% of the normal cash sum. So it certainly can be argued that non Bus Pass holders are paying higher cash fares because of the low Bus Pass reimbursement rates.[/p][/quote]Even so, bus pass holders cant use the bus during rush hour so I assume that if these bus pass holders never used the bus it would be driving about empty, at least their getting some money back rather than none at all. Hessenford
  • Score: 1

6:28pm Wed 16 Jul 14

scrumpyjack says...

Hessenford wrote:
scrumpyjack wrote:
dorsetgills wrote:
There delusional on improved traffic improvements. Why would you wanna use a bus takes forever to get anywhere and cost a bomb!!!!
The problem is traffic is getting worse and worse and even using a car 'takes forever'.

Unless they bite the bullet and do something now it will be too late and the town will be grid locked, just maybe if they get a good bus lane system that allows buses to smoothly undercut all the queuing cars people will start to use them. Kids using the bus rather than the school run? People working in and around the centre? OAPs? All might be considered as highly likely to convert if the alternative was made more attractive than as you point out it currently is.
Not while it costs a mortgage to go a couple of miles on the bus.
But again a point missed, if the numbers go up the cost comes down.

Look at the Tube - very different yes, but a public transport system that is effective and extensive, the result? Packed.

I hate the bus, but can see that getting it right and quicker is money well spent for the future.
[quote][p][bold]Hessenford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]scrumpyjack[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dorsetgills[/bold] wrote: There delusional on improved traffic improvements. Why would you wanna use a bus takes forever to get anywhere and cost a bomb!!!![/p][/quote]The problem is traffic is getting worse and worse and even using a car 'takes forever'. Unless they bite the bullet and do something now it will be too late and the town will be grid locked, just maybe if they get a good bus lane system that allows buses to smoothly undercut all the queuing cars people will start to use them. Kids using the bus rather than the school run? People working in and around the centre? OAPs? All might be considered as highly likely to convert if the alternative was made more attractive than as you point out it currently is.[/p][/quote]Not while it costs a mortgage to go a couple of miles on the bus.[/p][/quote]But again a point missed, if the numbers go up the cost comes down. Look at the Tube - very different yes, but a public transport system that is effective and extensive, the result? Packed. I hate the bus, but can see that getting it right and quicker is money well spent for the future. scrumpyjack
  • Score: 0

8:37pm Wed 16 Jul 14

Hessenford says...

scrumpyjack wrote:
Hessenford wrote:
scrumpyjack wrote:
dorsetgills wrote:
There delusional on improved traffic improvements. Why would you wanna use a bus takes forever to get anywhere and cost a bomb!!!!
The problem is traffic is getting worse and worse and even using a car 'takes forever'.

Unless they bite the bullet and do something now it will be too late and the town will be grid locked, just maybe if they get a good bus lane system that allows buses to smoothly undercut all the queuing cars people will start to use them. Kids using the bus rather than the school run? People working in and around the centre? OAPs? All might be considered as highly likely to convert if the alternative was made more attractive than as you point out it currently is.
Not while it costs a mortgage to go a couple of miles on the bus.
But again a point missed, if the numbers go up the cost comes down.

Look at the Tube - very different yes, but a public transport system that is effective and extensive, the result? Packed.

I hate the bus, but can see that getting it right and quicker is money well spent for the future.
Packed tube yes, do the fares come down, no.
[quote][p][bold]scrumpyjack[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hessenford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]scrumpyjack[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dorsetgills[/bold] wrote: There delusional on improved traffic improvements. Why would you wanna use a bus takes forever to get anywhere and cost a bomb!!!![/p][/quote]The problem is traffic is getting worse and worse and even using a car 'takes forever'. Unless they bite the bullet and do something now it will be too late and the town will be grid locked, just maybe if they get a good bus lane system that allows buses to smoothly undercut all the queuing cars people will start to use them. Kids using the bus rather than the school run? People working in and around the centre? OAPs? All might be considered as highly likely to convert if the alternative was made more attractive than as you point out it currently is.[/p][/quote]Not while it costs a mortgage to go a couple of miles on the bus.[/p][/quote]But again a point missed, if the numbers go up the cost comes down. Look at the Tube - very different yes, but a public transport system that is effective and extensive, the result? Packed. I hate the bus, but can see that getting it right and quicker is money well spent for the future.[/p][/quote]Packed tube yes, do the fares come down, no. Hessenford
  • Score: 2

9:15pm Wed 16 Jul 14

spooki says...

crazycrane3 wrote:
Will 2 dangerous slip roads be vastly improved one day - Richmond Hill one that joins the dual carriageway , it's tiny and cars are coming round a corner to meet it! Then Blackwater Junction slip road that joins onto the Spur Road. Crazy how these still haven't been looked at.
Wow someone else has noticed then?! I though pt it was just me who hates these two junctions!
"Cllr Michael Filer, cabinet member for transport, said Castle Lane West had been identified as a “key commuter route” for schools and businesses." So why bu66er it up for weeks causing tailbacks and awful journeys stuck in a vehicle in July? Buses where the OAP's shut the windows, cars with whining kids and high temperature gauges, work vehicles getting delayed....
I'm wondering if those who are 'managing' this fiasco actually use the route?
[quote][p][bold]crazycrane3[/bold] wrote: Will 2 dangerous slip roads be vastly improved one day - Richmond Hill one that joins the dual carriageway , it's tiny and cars are coming round a corner to meet it! Then Blackwater Junction slip road that joins onto the Spur Road. Crazy how these still haven't been looked at.[/p][/quote]Wow someone else has noticed then?! I though pt it was just me who hates these two junctions! "Cllr Michael Filer, cabinet member for transport, said Castle Lane West had been identified as a “key commuter route” for schools and businesses." So why bu66er it up for weeks causing tailbacks and awful journeys stuck in a vehicle in July? Buses where the OAP's shut the windows, cars with whining kids and high temperature gauges, work vehicles getting delayed.... I'm wondering if those who are 'managing' this fiasco actually use the route? spooki
  • Score: 2

9:18pm Wed 16 Jul 14

spooki says...

dorsetgills wrote:
scrumpyjack wrote:
dorsetgills wrote:
There delusional on improved traffic improvements. Why would you wanna use a bus takes forever to get anywhere and cost a bomb!!!!
The problem is traffic is getting worse and worse and even using a car 'takes forever'.

Unless they bite the bullet and do something now it will be too late and the town will be grid locked, just maybe if they get a good bus lane system that allows buses to smoothly undercut all the queuing cars people will start to use them. Kids using the bus rather than the school run? People working in and around the centre? OAPs? All might be considered as highly likely to convert if the alternative was made more attractive than as you point out it currently is.
So your telling me the bus I got the other week to southbourne which took 1hr beats the 15 min drive it always takes from Poole
Your delusional must work for the bus company or the council
I actually reached Gunwharf Quays in Portsmouth by car in the time it took my mum on the M1 bus to get from Castlepojnt to Westbourne.
[quote][p][bold]dorsetgills[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]scrumpyjack[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dorsetgills[/bold] wrote: There delusional on improved traffic improvements. Why would you wanna use a bus takes forever to get anywhere and cost a bomb!!!![/p][/quote]The problem is traffic is getting worse and worse and even using a car 'takes forever'. Unless they bite the bullet and do something now it will be too late and the town will be grid locked, just maybe if they get a good bus lane system that allows buses to smoothly undercut all the queuing cars people will start to use them. Kids using the bus rather than the school run? People working in and around the centre? OAPs? All might be considered as highly likely to convert if the alternative was made more attractive than as you point out it currently is.[/p][/quote]So your telling me the bus I got the other week to southbourne which took 1hr beats the 15 min drive it always takes from Poole Your delusional must work for the bus company or the council[/p][/quote]I actually reached Gunwharf Quays in Portsmouth by car in the time it took my mum on the M1 bus to get from Castlepojnt to Westbourne. spooki
  • Score: 1

11:46pm Wed 16 Jul 14

s-pb2 says...

So its to help pedestrians.

There already seems to be perfectly reasonable and maintained pavements for pedestrians.

Its to improve bus travel.

The stretch of road which is being worked on has traffic flowing quite normally and without any delay even at rush hour. So there wont be any difference there.

Its to improve cycle travel.

There is already a cycle lane on the pavement which adults and large numbers of children use perfectly adequately and safely as the pavement is wide enough for all to use. I dont think parents would encourage their children going to and from school in using a new cycle lane on such a busy and fast road, and rightly so.

Local councillors in the wards affected have questioned the point of the works and feel they are unnecessary.

So is there actually any point to all of this?
So its to help pedestrians. There already seems to be perfectly reasonable and maintained pavements for pedestrians. Its to improve bus travel. The stretch of road which is being worked on has traffic flowing quite normally and without any delay even at rush hour. So there wont be any difference there. Its to improve cycle travel. There is already a cycle lane on the pavement which adults and large numbers of children use perfectly adequately and safely as the pavement is wide enough for all to use. I dont think parents would encourage their children going to and from school in using a new cycle lane on such a busy and fast road, and rightly so. Local councillors in the wards affected have questioned the point of the works and feel they are unnecessary. So is there actually any point to all of this? s-pb2
  • Score: 3

12:01pm Thu 17 Jul 14

Top_Gear says...

s-pb2 wrote:
So its to help pedestrians. There already seems to be perfectly reasonable and maintained pavements for pedestrians. Its to improve bus travel. The stretch of road which is being worked on has traffic flowing quite normally and without any delay even at rush hour. So there wont be any difference there. Its to improve cycle travel. There is already a cycle lane on the pavement which adults and large numbers of children use perfectly adequately and safely as the pavement is wide enough for all to use. I dont think parents would encourage their children going to and from school in using a new cycle lane on such a busy and fast road, and rightly so. Local councillors in the wards affected have questioned the point of the works and feel they are unnecessary. So is there actually any point to all of this?
Yes, to promote a form of travel other than driving, which I support.
[quote][p][bold]s-pb2[/bold] wrote: So its to help pedestrians. There already seems to be perfectly reasonable and maintained pavements for pedestrians. Its to improve bus travel. The stretch of road which is being worked on has traffic flowing quite normally and without any delay even at rush hour. So there wont be any difference there. Its to improve cycle travel. There is already a cycle lane on the pavement which adults and large numbers of children use perfectly adequately and safely as the pavement is wide enough for all to use. I dont think parents would encourage their children going to and from school in using a new cycle lane on such a busy and fast road, and rightly so. Local councillors in the wards affected have questioned the point of the works and feel they are unnecessary. So is there actually any point to all of this?[/p][/quote]Yes, to promote a form of travel other than driving, which I support. Top_Gear
  • Score: -1

11:31pm Thu 17 Jul 14

action not talk says...

CASTLE LANE Wallisdown Ashley Road poole road and add to that the ferry traffic diverting to purbeck via road route and you have a traffic meltdown at the peak time when tourist are flocking into Bournemouth
Who is responsible for the traffic management and why at the most crucial time of the year and why so many roadworks at one time ??
CASTLE LANE Wallisdown Ashley Road poole road and add to that the ferry traffic diverting to purbeck via road route and you have a traffic meltdown at the peak time when tourist are flocking into Bournemouth Who is responsible for the traffic management and why at the most crucial time of the year and why so many roadworks at one time ?? action not talk
  • Score: 1

12:24am Fri 18 Jul 14

s-pb2 says...

Top_Gear wrote:
s-pb2 wrote:
So its to help pedestrians. There already seems to be perfectly reasonable and maintained pavements for pedestrians. Its to improve bus travel. The stretch of road which is being worked on has traffic flowing quite normally and without any delay even at rush hour. So there wont be any difference there. Its to improve cycle travel. There is already a cycle lane on the pavement which adults and large numbers of children use perfectly adequately and safely as the pavement is wide enough for all to use. I dont think parents would encourage their children going to and from school in using a new cycle lane on such a busy and fast road, and rightly so. Local councillors in the wards affected have questioned the point of the works and feel they are unnecessary. So is there actually any point to all of this?
Yes, to promote a form of travel other than driving, which I support.
Flying or swimming seems to be the only forms of transport not already adequately covered before the roadworks started
[quote][p][bold]Top_Gear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]s-pb2[/bold] wrote: So its to help pedestrians. There already seems to be perfectly reasonable and maintained pavements for pedestrians. Its to improve bus travel. The stretch of road which is being worked on has traffic flowing quite normally and without any delay even at rush hour. So there wont be any difference there. Its to improve cycle travel. There is already a cycle lane on the pavement which adults and large numbers of children use perfectly adequately and safely as the pavement is wide enough for all to use. I dont think parents would encourage their children going to and from school in using a new cycle lane on such a busy and fast road, and rightly so. Local councillors in the wards affected have questioned the point of the works and feel they are unnecessary. So is there actually any point to all of this?[/p][/quote]Yes, to promote a form of travel other than driving, which I support.[/p][/quote]Flying or swimming seems to be the only forms of transport not already adequately covered before the roadworks started s-pb2
  • Score: -1

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