OAP couple living on the streets after dispute over pension payments

Bournemouth Echo: NOWHERE TO GO: The  streets of Bournemouth are now ‘home’ for this elderly pensioner. NOWHERE TO GO: The streets of Bournemouth are now ‘home’ for this elderly pensioner.

AN ELDERLY couple are living rough on the streets of Bournemouth, prompting shocked reactions from charity workers.

The two pensioners were evicted from their privately-rented home in Charminster in April, and have been sleeping rough since then – relying on soup kitchens to eat – while an issue with their pension payments is resolved.

It is believed that after the pensions system changed, they were told they had to have their pensions paid electronically into a bank account. Because they were unable to carry on collecting their money in their usual way, they were unable to pay their rent.

According to Bournemouth Council, they have been offered emergency accommodation but have refused.

Bath-based charity volunteer Robin Richmond came across the couple, aged 84 and 75, on the seafront earlier this month while he was helping a local church get set up to assist local homeless people.

He described the meeting as ‘an eye opener’.

“They have helped people through voluntary organisations and it is a real pity that in their hour of need they have been left to live on the streets,” he said.

“At a time when people are so concerned about the misuse of benefits it appears that the system is radically failing a couple who, on the face of it, we should be honouring and not forgetting.”

Bournemouth Borough Council’s strategic housing manager, Kelly Ansell, said: “The couple’s situation was recently assessed and they were offered emergency accommodation but this was refused.

“We would urge them to make further contact with the council’s housing team.”

Sarah Carroll, head of community services at Age UK Bournemouth, also urged the couple to get in touch.

“It shouldn’t really get to this point, it is quite outrageous,” she said.

She said sometimes elderly people were reluctant to speak to social services due to pride, stubbornness or a desire not to be a burden.

“I understand a lot of people have tried to engage with them, clearly they can’t sort this out on their own.”

Bournemouth Town Centre Parish Team Rector Reverend Dr Ian Terry said: “I am shocked to hear this.

“Homelessness is a blight on our society – nobody should be without a home.

“It is particularly shocking to hear that they are such an elderly couple.”

He said he wasn’t surprised to hear that the council had offered practical assistance, but added: “What the sad example of this couple shows is that, although things are being done, they are not being done quickly enough, and there is a need for further action.”

The Daily Echo spoke to the couple, who said they would prefer to remain anonymous.

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5:21am Mon 14 Jul 14

churchill gardens resident says...

Who was the landlord that evicted them then?
Who was the landlord that evicted them then? churchill gardens resident
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6:01am Mon 14 Jul 14

High Treason says...

"According to Bournemouth Council, they have been offered emergency accommodation but have refused"
Therefore a non story unless they have mental health problems. Help is there but often pride in the elderly is a barrier.
"According to Bournemouth Council, they have been offered emergency accommodation but have refused" Therefore a non story unless they have mental health problems. Help is there but often pride in the elderly is a barrier. High Treason
  • Score: 66

6:06am Mon 14 Jul 14

alasdair1967 says...

Difficult story to comment on seems there is a lot going on here yes the landlord should be ashamed of himself for evicting this couple , however in the report it does state they have been offered emergency accommodation which would have got them of the streets however they have refused this and remain in this plight , hope it gets resolved
Difficult story to comment on seems there is a lot going on here yes the landlord should be ashamed of himself for evicting this couple , however in the report it does state they have been offered emergency accommodation which would have got them of the streets however they have refused this and remain in this plight , hope it gets resolved alasdair1967
  • Score: 123

6:20am Mon 14 Jul 14

alasdair1967 says...

And as for the pensions department they also need a firm kick up the backside it's now July and the couple have had issues since April !
And as for the pensions department they also need a firm kick up the backside it's now July and the couple have had issues since April ! alasdair1967
  • Score: 114

7:07am Mon 14 Jul 14

bosco1 says...

I Guess theres going to be 2 sides to this story. To evict someone these days is normally a long process. So during that period im sure things could have been done to stop them getting into this state on the streets.It would appear to be lack of communication, understanding the couples needs etc. Simple starting point is for the couple to go to the council and get things started and move them off the street.
I Guess theres going to be 2 sides to this story. To evict someone these days is normally a long process. So during that period im sure things could have been done to stop them getting into this state on the streets.It would appear to be lack of communication, understanding the couples needs etc. Simple starting point is for the couple to go to the council and get things started and move them off the street. bosco1
  • Score: 51

7:17am Mon 14 Jul 14

roamer200 says...

alasdair1967 wrote:
Difficult story to comment on seems there is a lot going on here yes the landlord should be ashamed of himself for evicting this couple , however in the report it does state they have been offered emergency accommodation which would have got them of the streets however they have refused this and remain in this plight , hope it gets resolved
Why is the landlord necessarily wrong. They don't rent properties for fun!! Maybe they needed the rent to pay the mortgage and not lose their own home. Reckon there is a lot more to this!!
[quote][p][bold]alasdair1967[/bold] wrote: Difficult story to comment on seems there is a lot going on here yes the landlord should be ashamed of himself for evicting this couple , however in the report it does state they have been offered emergency accommodation which would have got them of the streets however they have refused this and remain in this plight , hope it gets resolved[/p][/quote]Why is the landlord necessarily wrong. They don't rent properties for fun!! Maybe they needed the rent to pay the mortgage and not lose their own home. Reckon there is a lot more to this!! roamer200
  • Score: 108

7:23am Mon 14 Jul 14

Talkingheadera says...

They were offered accomodation! No sympathy then surely.
If the landlord wasn't paid then possibly he wouldn't be a me to pay his mortgage on the property. Is he a charity?
They were offered accomodation! No sympathy then surely. If the landlord wasn't paid then possibly he wouldn't be a me to pay his mortgage on the property. Is he a charity? Talkingheadera
  • Score: 50

7:31am Mon 14 Jul 14

alasdair1967 says...

bosco1 wrote:
I Guess theres going to be 2 sides to this story. To evict someone these days is normally a long process. So during that period im sure things could have been done to stop them getting into this state on the streets.It would appear to be lack of communication, understanding the couples needs etc. Simple starting point is for the couple to go to the council and get things started and move them off the street.
The council have all ready offered emergency accommodation which was refused by this couple yes it is a travesty that they are homeless but as recent comments have stated seems to be a lot more to this story , why where they evicted in the first place where was the support at that time , why are the pensions department dragging there heels with the issues is it because they have no fixed abode ? And more importantly is there family/ friends that could help them at this time
[quote][p][bold]bosco1[/bold] wrote: I Guess theres going to be 2 sides to this story. To evict someone these days is normally a long process. So during that period im sure things could have been done to stop them getting into this state on the streets.It would appear to be lack of communication, understanding the couples needs etc. Simple starting point is for the couple to go to the council and get things started and move them off the street.[/p][/quote]The council have all ready offered emergency accommodation which was refused by this couple yes it is a travesty that they are homeless but as recent comments have stated seems to be a lot more to this story , why where they evicted in the first place where was the support at that time , why are the pensions department dragging there heels with the issues is it because they have no fixed abode ? And more importantly is there family/ friends that could help them at this time alasdair1967
  • Score: 44

7:31am Mon 14 Jul 14

new2it says...

High Treason wrote:
"According to Bournemouth Council, they have been offered emergency accommodation but have refused"
Therefore a non story unless they have mental health problems. Help is there but often pride in the elderly is a barrier.
Can't see why this is getting the thumbs down. It is an awful situation for them of course and something should have been sorted sooner, but they were offered alternative accommodation, so don't see what else could be done. It was a private rent, so Landlord can't be blamed for having to take this step, as said by somebody else, they are not a charity.
[quote][p][bold]High Treason[/bold] wrote: "According to Bournemouth Council, they have been offered emergency accommodation but have refused" Therefore a non story unless they have mental health problems. Help is there but often pride in the elderly is a barrier.[/p][/quote]Can't see why this is getting the thumbs down. It is an awful situation for them of course and something should have been sorted sooner, but they were offered alternative accommodation, so don't see what else could be done. It was a private rent, so Landlord can't be blamed for having to take this step, as said by somebody else, they are not a charity. new2it
  • Score: 48

7:45am Mon 14 Jul 14

EGHH says...

I'm not surprised at all. This government only cares for the wealthy. If you're poor, sick or elderly you might as well not exist in Cameron's England. If you are starting work be prepared to die before you get your pension. Retiremt age is going up to 69 then into the 70s. He's turned the clock back to the Victorian era! This government has to GO!!
I'm not surprised at all. This government only cares for the wealthy. If you're poor, sick or elderly you might as well not exist in Cameron's England. If you are starting work be prepared to die before you get your pension. Retiremt age is going up to 69 then into the 70s. He's turned the clock back to the Victorian era! This government has to GO!! EGHH
  • Score: -15

8:22am Mon 14 Jul 14

on-the-sunny-side says...

they must have had other problems with the landlord to get evicted so quickly. did they already have rent arrears? the landlord would need to get an eviction order from the courts. this takes time.
they refused emergency accommodation. why?
I also fail to understand how the 2nd respondent here manages to blame Mrs Thatcher.
they must have had other problems with the landlord to get evicted so quickly. did they already have rent arrears? the landlord would need to get an eviction order from the courts. this takes time. they refused emergency accommodation. why? I also fail to understand how the 2nd respondent here manages to blame Mrs Thatcher. on-the-sunny-side
  • Score: 65

8:28am Mon 14 Jul 14

Ginny nz says...

I don't get this story . You have an elderly couple who don't want help , a landlord that evicted them because their rent wasn't paid ( as most landlords would do ) and a banking problem . Most of these comments are quick enough to diss the landlord but surely it's the bank that's at fault !!
I don't get this story . You have an elderly couple who don't want help , a landlord that evicted them because their rent wasn't paid ( as most landlords would do ) and a banking problem . Most of these comments are quick enough to diss the landlord but surely it's the bank that's at fault !! Ginny nz
  • Score: 19

8:28am Mon 14 Jul 14

Carolyn43 says...

Many elderly people don't understand the systems nowadays and get worried that if they accept something, they'll be in further trouble. Best to keep your head down and out of the system.

I have a neighbour who should be getting the pittance of an interest she gets on her savings tax free, but she won't fill in the necessary form because the tax people "might come after"- they pursued her for 1 shilling when she was young and now she's scared she could end up owing thousands even though she has only a state pension and small savings.

I can remember National Assistance, as this couple obviously can, when someone came to your home and looked at what you had. If you had four dining chairs and there were only two of you, you had to sell two to get money before you could get any help from elsewhere. Then they almost ruled your life.

Perhaps it's this kind of thing the couple are afraid of even though times have changed. Plus they're of an age where they think you should cope for yourself and don't rely on what they regard as "handouts". Many elderly are very proud. Sad.
Many elderly people don't understand the systems nowadays and get worried that if they accept something, they'll be in further trouble. Best to keep your head down and out of the system. I have a neighbour who should be getting the pittance of an interest she gets on her savings tax free, but she won't fill in the necessary form because the tax people "might come after"- they pursued her for 1 shilling when she was young and now she's scared she could end up owing thousands even though she has only a state pension and small savings. I can remember National Assistance, as this couple obviously can, when someone came to your home and looked at what you had. If you had four dining chairs and there were only two of you, you had to sell two to get money before you could get any help from elsewhere. Then they almost ruled your life. Perhaps it's this kind of thing the couple are afraid of even though times have changed. Plus they're of an age where they think you should cope for yourself and don't rely on what they regard as "handouts". Many elderly are very proud. Sad. Carolyn43
  • Score: 60

8:39am Mon 14 Jul 14

harrypaye says...

It clearly states that they were evicted as they couldn't pay the rent after their pensions were stopped. What a sick load of toe rags local people are picking on them here. People of this age are entitled to their pension. If its not paid they fall into trouble. As to accepting help. The only thing you have when old is your pride. If they were approachd in the wrong way they would have rejected it. When you get old your body no longer works like it should and you need help with the simplest things. I know I am 73 myself. I cannot believe the attitude of these posters on here. It's two very old people on the street for goodness sake.
It clearly states that they were evicted as they couldn't pay the rent after their pensions were stopped. What a sick load of toe rags local people are picking on them here. People of this age are entitled to their pension. If its not paid they fall into trouble. As to accepting help. The only thing you have when old is your pride. If they were approachd in the wrong way they would have rejected it. When you get old your body no longer works like it should and you need help with the simplest things. I know I am 73 myself. I cannot believe the attitude of these posters on here. It's two very old people on the street for goodness sake. harrypaye
  • Score: 41

8:54am Mon 14 Jul 14

pitzagirl says...

Yes,in the article it is said they were offered accommodation,there is a BUT it does not say WHY they turned it down was unsuitable for their needs or in a bad area away from the folk they know also what their families can they not help them,
Yes,in the article it is said they were offered accommodation,there is a BUT it does not say WHY they turned it down was unsuitable for their needs or in a bad area away from the folk they know also what their families can they not help them, pitzagirl
  • Score: 25

8:55am Mon 14 Jul 14

Steveo123 says...

They had to go,,Got to house the immigrants somewhere,,,
They had to go,,Got to house the immigrants somewhere,,, Steveo123
  • Score: -24

8:58am Mon 14 Jul 14

fartycat says...

Visit any town or city and you'll notice an increase in homelessness. This has happened thanks to cuts to local authority budgets and draconian cuts to the benefits system under this current Government.

We have just had to turn our life upsidedown to make room for a friend who is now staying with us after losing his job, then his home. He would have got no help under this unjust system and if it wasn't for the small room we have offered him, would have been on the streets. But some people are not that lucky and need help, help that has now been cut.

Our society should simply not let this happen. There are plenty of empty homes, empty buildings. And sorry to pick on someone but Kelly Ansell or her staff need to be out on the streets every day trying to befriend this elderly couple and persuade them into suitable accommodation. Telling us they have been offered accommodation but have refused is not good enough. This couple need to be housed now otherwise we will all have blood on our hands.
Visit any town or city and you'll notice an increase in homelessness. This has happened thanks to cuts to local authority budgets and draconian cuts to the benefits system under this current Government. We have just had to turn our life upsidedown to make room for a friend who is now staying with us after losing his job, then his home. He would have got no help under this unjust system and if it wasn't for the small room we have offered him, would have been on the streets. But some people are not that lucky and need help, help that has now been cut. Our society should simply not let this happen. There are plenty of empty homes, empty buildings. And sorry to pick on someone but Kelly Ansell or her staff need to be out on the streets every day trying to befriend this elderly couple and persuade them into suitable accommodation. Telling us they have been offered accommodation but have refused is not good enough. This couple need to be housed now otherwise we will all have blood on our hands. fartycat
  • Score: 33

8:59am Mon 14 Jul 14

nickynoodah says...

Its got to be Kevvo he has been a trampie most or all of his life you know
hes never bothered with water.
Its got to be Kevvo he has been a trampie most or all of his life you know hes never bothered with water. nickynoodah
  • Score: -37

9:00am Mon 14 Jul 14

Branksome Boy says...

I suspect they refused assistance because it was some dingy b&b in Boscombe or some shelter (full of drug addicts/drunks) where they would have to be split up! Councils know that they can offer" anything" as housing and that will fulfill their statutory obligation! I bet they were not offered a nice, cosy 1 bed council flat! Come on Ms Ansell tell what you did offer them prove me wrong!
I suspect they refused assistance because it was some dingy b&b in Boscombe or some shelter (full of drug addicts/drunks) where they would have to be split up! Councils know that they can offer" anything" as housing and that will fulfill their statutory obligation! I bet they were not offered a nice, cosy 1 bed council flat! Come on Ms Ansell tell what you did offer them prove me wrong! Branksome Boy
  • Score: 42

9:03am Mon 14 Jul 14

Fingersonthem says...

harrypaye wrote:
It clearly states that they were evicted as they couldn't pay the rent after their pensions were stopped. What a sick load of toe rags local people are picking on them here. People of this age are entitled to their pension. If its not paid they fall into trouble. As to accepting help. The only thing you have when old is your pride. If they were approachd in the wrong way they would have rejected it. When you get old your body no longer works like it should and you need help with the simplest things. I know I am 73 myself. I cannot believe the attitude of these posters on here. It's two very old people on the street for goodness sake.
How do you stop pensions when they are being paid. Would it not be a case of benefits coming to a halt .

They can look on the bright side their house will not be sold to pay for their care in the future.
[quote][p][bold]harrypaye[/bold] wrote: It clearly states that they were evicted as they couldn't pay the rent after their pensions were stopped. What a sick load of toe rags local people are picking on them here. People of this age are entitled to their pension. If its not paid they fall into trouble. As to accepting help. The only thing you have when old is your pride. If they were approachd in the wrong way they would have rejected it. When you get old your body no longer works like it should and you need help with the simplest things. I know I am 73 myself. I cannot believe the attitude of these posters on here. It's two very old people on the street for goodness sake.[/p][/quote]How do you stop pensions when they are being paid. Would it not be a case of benefits coming to a halt . They can look on the bright side their house will not be sold to pay for their care in the future. Fingersonthem
  • Score: -6

9:12am Mon 14 Jul 14

NickTheGreekinBmth says...

fartycat wrote:
Visit any town or city and you'll notice an increase in homelessness. This has happened thanks to cuts to local authority budgets and draconian cuts to the benefits system under this current Government.

We have just had to turn our life upsidedown to make room for a friend who is now staying with us after losing his job, then his home. He would have got no help under this unjust system and if it wasn't for the small room we have offered him, would have been on the streets. But some people are not that lucky and need help, help that has now been cut.

Our society should simply not let this happen. There are plenty of empty homes, empty buildings. And sorry to pick on someone but Kelly Ansell or her staff need to be out on the streets every day trying to befriend this elderly couple and persuade them into suitable accommodation. Telling us they have been offered accommodation but have refused is not good enough. This couple need to be housed now otherwise we will all have blood on our hands.
How do you know that they arent out seeing people on the streets? They can't force people to accept help, much as they probably would want to.
[quote][p][bold]fartycat[/bold] wrote: Visit any town or city and you'll notice an increase in homelessness. This has happened thanks to cuts to local authority budgets and draconian cuts to the benefits system under this current Government. We have just had to turn our life upsidedown to make room for a friend who is now staying with us after losing his job, then his home. He would have got no help under this unjust system and if it wasn't for the small room we have offered him, would have been on the streets. But some people are not that lucky and need help, help that has now been cut. Our society should simply not let this happen. There are plenty of empty homes, empty buildings. And sorry to pick on someone but Kelly Ansell or her staff need to be out on the streets every day trying to befriend this elderly couple and persuade them into suitable accommodation. Telling us they have been offered accommodation but have refused is not good enough. This couple need to be housed now otherwise we will all have blood on our hands.[/p][/quote]How do you know that they arent out seeing people on the streets? They can't force people to accept help, much as they probably would want to. NickTheGreekinBmth
  • Score: 10

9:13am Mon 14 Jul 14

MCAME1989 says...

They were offered somewhere but refused!
If that was a young couple it would be said that they were being fussy and holding out for more!

This is a hard one but if they have refused somewhere then they can't feel that desperate for themselves!
They were offered somewhere but refused! If that was a young couple it would be said that they were being fussy and holding out for more! This is a hard one but if they have refused somewhere then they can't feel that desperate for themselves! MCAME1989
  • Score: 6

9:27am Mon 14 Jul 14

on-the-sunny-side says...

i'm guessing that they were offered a place in a care home. if that is the case then I can see why they turned it down as they would have been separated.
perhaps, if they " forgot" how to speak English and "lost" all ID, they would get a very nice ground floor flat and all the benefits that are available.
i'm guessing that they were offered a place in a care home. if that is the case then I can see why they turned it down as they would have been separated. perhaps, if they " forgot" how to speak English and "lost" all ID, they would get a very nice ground floor flat and all the benefits that are available. on-the-sunny-side
  • Score: 7

9:30am Mon 14 Jul 14

iseestupidpeople says...

churchill gardens resident wrote:
Who was the landlord that evicted them then?
Someone who had a mortgage to pay?
[quote][p][bold]churchill gardens resident[/bold] wrote: Who was the landlord that evicted them then?[/p][/quote]Someone who had a mortgage to pay? iseestupidpeople
  • Score: 24

9:48am Mon 14 Jul 14

Sir Beachy Head says...

Hopefully we'll become a more caring and compasionate society soon and euthanaesia will be an option for the over 70's.
Hopefully we'll become a more caring and compasionate society soon and euthanaesia will be an option for the over 70's. Sir Beachy Head
  • Score: -18

9:48am Mon 14 Jul 14

muscliffman says...

alasdair1967 wrote:
Difficult story to comment on seems there is a lot going on here yes the landlord should be ashamed of himself for evicting this couple , however in the report it does state they have been offered emergency accommodation which would have got them of the streets however they have refused this and remain in this plight , hope it gets resolved
One of the less emotive comments, but why should the Landlord be ashamed and how do you know it was a man? We simply don't know all the facts, it could have been a routine end of tenure, serous rental arrears or any number of many other reasonable explanations.

It does appear that having not found alternative rental accommodation and refused the emergency refuge offered by the Council there are all sorts of other unfortunate things going on here and they need to be sorted out urgently.
[quote][p][bold]alasdair1967[/bold] wrote: Difficult story to comment on seems there is a lot going on here yes the landlord should be ashamed of himself for evicting this couple , however in the report it does state they have been offered emergency accommodation which would have got them of the streets however they have refused this and remain in this plight , hope it gets resolved[/p][/quote]One of the less emotive comments, but why should the Landlord be ashamed and how do you know it was a man? We simply don't know all the facts, it could have been a routine end of tenure, serous rental arrears or any number of many other reasonable explanations. It does appear that having not found alternative rental accommodation and refused the emergency refuge offered by the Council there are all sorts of other unfortunate things going on here and they need to be sorted out urgently. muscliffman
  • Score: 10

9:52am Mon 14 Jul 14

goatty says...

Steveo123 wrote:
They had to go,,Got to house the immigrants somewhere,,,
Yep they should have said they were an ethnic minority or say they couldn't speak English. Would have been housed tomorrow and for sure a judge would not have issued an eviction notice
[quote][p][bold]Steveo123[/bold] wrote: They had to go,,Got to house the immigrants somewhere,,,[/p][/quote]Yep they should have said they were an ethnic minority or say they couldn't speak English. Would have been housed tomorrow and for sure a judge would not have issued an eviction notice goatty
  • Score: -13

10:00am Mon 14 Jul 14

pugsley29 says...

Even if they were offered emergency housing they still have to pay for it and they still have no money. Just needs a sensible person to arrange payment by cheque or a very convincing person to arrange for them to open bank accounts and get paid by bacs (easier said than done for the older generation).
Even if they were offered emergency housing they still have to pay for it and they still have no money. Just needs a sensible person to arrange payment by cheque or a very convincing person to arrange for them to open bank accounts and get paid by bacs (easier said than done for the older generation). pugsley29
  • Score: 5

10:01am Mon 14 Jul 14

whataboutthat says...

Leave them to it. They seem quite stubborn. Quite last century. Let them come for help then they can be sorted.
Leave them to it. They seem quite stubborn. Quite last century. Let them come for help then they can be sorted. whataboutthat
  • Score: 2

10:16am Mon 14 Jul 14

alasdair1967 says...

pugsley29 wrote:
Even if they were offered emergency housing they still have to pay for it and they still have no money. Just needs a sensible person to arrange payment by cheque or a very convincing person to arrange for them to open bank accounts and get paid by bacs (easier said than done for the older generation).
According to another poster it Seems they have bank accounts and substantial savings !
[quote][p][bold]pugsley29[/bold] wrote: Even if they were offered emergency housing they still have to pay for it and they still have no money. Just needs a sensible person to arrange payment by cheque or a very convincing person to arrange for them to open bank accounts and get paid by bacs (easier said than done for the older generation).[/p][/quote]According to another poster it Seems they have bank accounts and substantial savings ! alasdair1967
  • Score: 13

10:17am Mon 14 Jul 14

we-shall-see says...

Reading between the lines here - and it's only my opinion - I suspect they may have either mental health or alcohol problems or both? Either way, they need help desperately.

Having said that, there are several elderly men and at least one other lady living rough in the area - all of which have alcohol and substance abuse problems and I don't hear anyone shouting about *them* needing a home in their advancing years ......
Reading between the lines here - and it's only my opinion - I suspect they may have either mental health or alcohol problems or both? Either way, they need help desperately. Having said that, there are several elderly men and at least one other lady living rough in the area - all of which have alcohol and substance abuse problems and I don't hear anyone shouting about *them* needing a home in their advancing years ...... we-shall-see
  • Score: 14

10:26am Mon 14 Jul 14

Chief-Wiggum says...

Here is an idea, go to a bank get a basic account, and pay your rent. They only have themselves to blame for this and im sure they have had opportunities to sort it but are trying to make some sort of point? Oh well, next...
Here is an idea, go to a bank get a basic account, and pay your rent. They only have themselves to blame for this and im sure they have had opportunities to sort it but are trying to make some sort of point? Oh well, next... Chief-Wiggum
  • Score: 11

10:35am Mon 14 Jul 14

Hessenford says...

alasdair1967 wrote:
pugsley29 wrote:
Even if they were offered emergency housing they still have to pay for it and they still have no money. Just needs a sensible person to arrange payment by cheque or a very convincing person to arrange for them to open bank accounts and get paid by bacs (easier said than done for the older generation).
According to another poster it Seems they have bank accounts and substantial savings !
Don't believe everything another poster writes, are we to seriously believe that if they have substantial savings in bank accounts they choose to live as they are, if the above is true perhaps they have some sort of mental health issues, I think there's more to this story than is being relayed.
[quote][p][bold]alasdair1967[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pugsley29[/bold] wrote: Even if they were offered emergency housing they still have to pay for it and they still have no money. Just needs a sensible person to arrange payment by cheque or a very convincing person to arrange for them to open bank accounts and get paid by bacs (easier said than done for the older generation).[/p][/quote]According to another poster it Seems they have bank accounts and substantial savings ![/p][/quote]Don't believe everything another poster writes, are we to seriously believe that if they have substantial savings in bank accounts they choose to live as they are, if the above is true perhaps they have some sort of mental health issues, I think there's more to this story than is being relayed. Hessenford
  • Score: 13

10:57am Mon 14 Jul 14

stevobath says...

on-the-sunny-side wrote:
they must have had other problems with the landlord to get evicted so quickly. did they already have rent arrears? the landlord would need to get an eviction order from the courts. this takes time.
they refused emergency accommodation. why?
I also fail to understand how the 2nd respondent here manages to blame Mrs Thatcher.
Thatcher started the Social Housing problem & the 'Get Rich From Housing Benefit' landlords, by selling off homes on the cheap.

The Tories & the idiot IDS are causing misery & pain to so many people by the cack handed way the benefits system has been changed. This isn't an isolated case. All over the country families &vulnerable are being evicted for no other reason, than landlords are finding it harder to collect Housing Benefit. Bear in mind the many that have profited from theloss of swathes of social housing, by getting mortgage after mortgage, paid for by the Tax Payer.

Some of the comments on here are witless, from people who seem to have little idea how the system works, or rather Doesn't work.

Easy to pontificate if you've never had to deal with the system.
[quote][p][bold]on-the-sunny-side[/bold] wrote: they must have had other problems with the landlord to get evicted so quickly. did they already have rent arrears? the landlord would need to get an eviction order from the courts. this takes time. they refused emergency accommodation. why? I also fail to understand how the 2nd respondent here manages to blame Mrs Thatcher.[/p][/quote]Thatcher started the Social Housing problem & the 'Get Rich From Housing Benefit' landlords, by selling off homes on the cheap. The Tories & the idiot IDS are causing misery & pain to so many people by the cack handed way the benefits system has been changed. This isn't an isolated case. All over the country families &vulnerable are being evicted for no other reason, than landlords are finding it harder to collect Housing Benefit. Bear in mind the many that have profited from theloss of swathes of social housing, by getting mortgage after mortgage, paid for by the Tax Payer. Some of the comments on here are witless, from people who seem to have little idea how the system works, or rather Doesn't work. Easy to pontificate if you've never had to deal with the system. stevobath
  • Score: 11

11:00am Mon 14 Jul 14

stevobath says...

Argie Bhagie wrote:
The town centre is full of tramops and dossers. Teh number of tramps selling useless "magazines" is appalling, beggers threatening honest pedestrians. These filth need eradicating, moving back to London or getting kicked out, or just .... out.
I suggest it's people like you who need eradicating.

'Useless' magazines? Ever tried reading the Big Issue? No I doubt it. To complex.
[quote][p][bold]Argie Bhagie[/bold] wrote: The town centre is full of tramops and dossers. Teh number of tramps selling useless "magazines" is appalling, beggers threatening honest pedestrians. These filth need eradicating, moving back to London or getting kicked out, or just .... out.[/p][/quote]I suggest it's people like you who need eradicating. 'Useless' magazines? Ever tried reading the Big Issue? No I doubt it. To complex. stevobath
  • Score: 6

11:02am Mon 14 Jul 14

Argie Bhagie says...

Oh so there's soup being served in the town centre? Good oh - Just what i need when I'm shopping or sun bathing. Do tell where.
Oh so there's soup being served in the town centre? Good oh - Just what i need when I'm shopping or sun bathing. Do tell where. Argie Bhagie
  • Score: -22

11:03am Mon 14 Jul 14

stevobath says...

pitzagirl wrote:
Yes,in the article it is said they were offered accommodation,there is a BUT it does not say WHY they turned it down was unsuitable for their needs or in a bad area away from the folk they know also what their families can they not help them,
You like many, take it for granted people have families or that their families are in a position to help.

This is UK 2014, not some magical fairy story land.
[quote][p][bold]pitzagirl[/bold] wrote: Yes,in the article it is said they were offered accommodation,there is a BUT it does not say WHY they turned it down was unsuitable for their needs or in a bad area away from the folk they know also what their families can they not help them,[/p][/quote]You like many, take it for granted people have families or that their families are in a position to help. This is UK 2014, not some magical fairy story land. stevobath
  • Score: 21

11:06am Mon 14 Jul 14

stevobath says...

harrypaye wrote:
It clearly states that they were evicted as they couldn't pay the rent after their pensions were stopped. What a sick load of toe rags local people are picking on them here. People of this age are entitled to their pension. If its not paid they fall into trouble. As to accepting help. The only thing you have when old is your pride. If they were approachd in the wrong way they would have rejected it. When you get old your body no longer works like it should and you need help with the simplest things. I know I am 73 myself. I cannot believe the attitude of these posters on here. It's two very old people on the street for goodness sake.
You don't expect the good people of Bournemouth to really care do you?

There's always nasty comments about the homeless, mentally ill etc.

Vile.
[quote][p][bold]harrypaye[/bold] wrote: It clearly states that they were evicted as they couldn't pay the rent after their pensions were stopped. What a sick load of toe rags local people are picking on them here. People of this age are entitled to their pension. If its not paid they fall into trouble. As to accepting help. The only thing you have when old is your pride. If they were approachd in the wrong way they would have rejected it. When you get old your body no longer works like it should and you need help with the simplest things. I know I am 73 myself. I cannot believe the attitude of these posters on here. It's two very old people on the street for goodness sake.[/p][/quote]You don't expect the good people of Bournemouth to really care do you? There's always nasty comments about the homeless, mentally ill etc. Vile. stevobath
  • Score: 18

11:08am Mon 14 Jul 14

STEVEUK444 says...

Bournemouth councils proposal of 'alternative' accommodation would have been a night shelter, where the couple would have had to have been seperated because of gender.
Still, all the little sheep can now repeat their mantra of "Two less scroungers to pay for".
Good old capitalism, profits first, ethics last.
And to think we go round the world enforcing our ideologies on others, we can't even look after our most vulnerable.
Bournemouth councils proposal of 'alternative' accommodation would have been a night shelter, where the couple would have had to have been seperated because of gender. Still, all the little sheep can now repeat their mantra of "Two less scroungers to pay for". Good old capitalism, profits first, ethics last. And to think we go round the world enforcing our ideologies on others, we can't even look after our most vulnerable. STEVEUK444
  • Score: 14

11:12am Mon 14 Jul 14

BigAlfromsunnyBournemouth says...

Oh dear the apologists for Labour are out in force today in a feeding frenzy trying to find a stick to berate the Coalition government with!

Let's be clear assistance was offered, the offers of help were refused, which proves to anybody capable of reading simple English that the system has worked, if the offered assistance is refused and the authorities didn't take no for an answer, forcibly placed the couple into temporary accommodation then these same idiots would be up in arms about civil liberties.

You can't blame the "PRIVATE" landlord, if the rent hasn't been paid he has to take steps to either recover the rent or recover the property. He's not a charity and he has to pay his bills, by making the couple homeless he has actually done them a massive favour by elevating the couple to the top of the housing list.
Oh dear the apologists for Labour are out in force today in a feeding frenzy trying to find a stick to berate the Coalition government with! Let's be clear assistance was offered, the offers of help were refused, which proves to anybody capable of reading simple English that the system has worked, if the offered assistance is refused and the authorities didn't take no for an answer, forcibly placed the couple into temporary accommodation then these same idiots would be up in arms about civil liberties. You can't blame the "PRIVATE" landlord, if the rent hasn't been paid he has to take steps to either recover the rent or recover the property. He's not a charity and he has to pay his bills, by making the couple homeless he has actually done them a massive favour by elevating the couple to the top of the housing list. BigAlfromsunnyBournemouth
  • Score: 7

11:36am Mon 14 Jul 14

BmthNewshound says...

Obviously a lot more to this story than whats being reported but it makes an attention grabbing headline - I wonder how long before the Daily Mail picks up the story ?
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I think that the Echo's assumption that a change in how their pension is being paid has resulted in them being homeless is a bit of a red herring. If the only change is that their pension is being paid directly into their bank account then they should still have been able to pay the rent.
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For their own sake I hope that the elderly couple see sense and accept the help and support they need.
Obviously a lot more to this story than whats being reported but it makes an attention grabbing headline - I wonder how long before the Daily Mail picks up the story ? . I think that the Echo's assumption that a change in how their pension is being paid has resulted in them being homeless is a bit of a red herring. If the only change is that their pension is being paid directly into their bank account then they should still have been able to pay the rent. . For their own sake I hope that the elderly couple see sense and accept the help and support they need. BmthNewshound
  • Score: 14

11:44am Mon 14 Jul 14

Argie Bhagie says...

stevobath wrote:
Argie Bhagie wrote: The town centre is full of tramops and dossers. Teh number of tramps selling useless "magazines" is appalling, beggers threatening honest pedestrians. These filth need eradicating, moving back to London or getting kicked out, or just .... out.
I suggest it's people like you who need eradicating. 'Useless' magazines? Ever tried reading the Big Issue? No I doubt it. To complex.
Load of trendy liberal claptrap.

Tramps - yes they are tramps. Noone seems to use that word anymore but they are nothing more, nothing less.

Accommodation is available but has rules - and like, rules are like so restrictive like. No drinking, no drugs- tramps seem to be allowed to abuse dogs so lets put them in a kennel. (and give the dogs a good home.
[quote][p][bold]stevobath[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Argie Bhagie[/bold] wrote: The town centre is full of tramops and dossers. Teh number of tramps selling useless "magazines" is appalling, beggers threatening honest pedestrians. These filth need eradicating, moving back to London or getting kicked out, or just .... out.[/p][/quote]I suggest it's people like you who need eradicating. 'Useless' magazines? Ever tried reading the Big Issue? No I doubt it. To complex.[/p][/quote]Load of trendy liberal claptrap. Tramps - yes they are tramps. Noone seems to use that word anymore but they are nothing more, nothing less. Accommodation is available but has rules - and like, rules are like so restrictive like. No drinking, no drugs- tramps seem to be allowed to abuse dogs so lets put them in a kennel. (and give the dogs a good home. Argie Bhagie
  • Score: -6

11:45am Mon 14 Jul 14

Sir Beachy Head says...

Argie Bhagie wrote:
Oh so there's soup being served in the town centre? Good oh - Just what i need when I'm shopping or sun bathing. Do tell where.
In the church opposite the Echo offices. As an athiest I don't like entering such places but the Minestrone and croutons are to die for.
You must try the Pea and Ham too, on a Thursday, lovely.
[quote][p][bold]Argie Bhagie[/bold] wrote: Oh so there's soup being served in the town centre? Good oh - Just what i need when I'm shopping or sun bathing. Do tell where.[/p][/quote]In the church opposite the Echo offices. As an athiest I don't like entering such places but the Minestrone and croutons are to die for. You must try the Pea and Ham too, on a Thursday, lovely. Sir Beachy Head
  • Score: -10

12:00pm Mon 14 Jul 14

FerryFan says...

When I had difficulties a few years ago I was offered accommodation in a block full of loud families, when due to autism I need somewhere quiet as i have to be in a place that is relatively peaceful. Was offered a second place again, mixed use - so I am still in rented. I am staying in private rented until I am eligible to go into over 60s!! Sometimes accommodation offered is just not suitable for the needs of some people, this does not appear to be taken into account. It would be interesting to know the reasons this couple had for refusing help before just blaming them for refusing it in the first place, at their time of life they would need to feel safe and secure, and if they feel happier on the streets than what the council have offered them, well, best not judge too harshly.
When I had difficulties a few years ago I was offered accommodation in a block full of loud families, when due to autism I need somewhere quiet as i have to be in a place that is relatively peaceful. Was offered a second place again, mixed use - so I am still in rented. I am staying in private rented until I am eligible to go into over 60s!! Sometimes accommodation offered is just not suitable for the needs of some people, this does not appear to be taken into account. It would be interesting to know the reasons this couple had for refusing help before just blaming them for refusing it in the first place, at their time of life they would need to feel safe and secure, and if they feel happier on the streets than what the council have offered them, well, best not judge too harshly. FerryFan
  • Score: 0

12:23pm Mon 14 Jul 14

susi.m says...

Churches are large buildings that are empty most of the week. These buildings could house some of the homeless people.
Vicarages often also have spare rooms - why not use these for the homeless too.
If you feel sorry for the homeless and have a spare room, even if only for a short time, then why not offer a room in your house to a homeless person of family.
I get fed up with people who moan about the situation and have the means to help, not actually offering simple practical help.
So please will those organisations and people who have the means to help but don't want to help please stop moaning and complaining about the situation with the homeless.
Churches are large buildings that are empty most of the week. These buildings could house some of the homeless people. Vicarages often also have spare rooms - why not use these for the homeless too. If you feel sorry for the homeless and have a spare room, even if only for a short time, then why not offer a room in your house to a homeless person of family. I get fed up with people who moan about the situation and have the means to help, not actually offering simple practical help. So please will those organisations and people who have the means to help but don't want to help please stop moaning and complaining about the situation with the homeless. susi.m
  • Score: 10

1:08pm Mon 14 Jul 14

joncon says...

the pension system changed eleven years ago. As anyone who would care to do a bit of research would find out. Anyone who doesnt have a bank account can open up a post office account to get payment, and the pension service will arrange this for people. So why has this come to a head after all this time? Have they been getting their pensions? It doesnt get stockpiled nor does it get sanctioned. How about the echo does some actual journalism and finds out.
the pension system changed eleven years ago. As anyone who would care to do a bit of research would find out. Anyone who doesnt have a bank account can open up a post office account to get payment, and the pension service will arrange this for people. So why has this come to a head after all this time? Have they been getting their pensions? It doesnt get stockpiled nor does it get sanctioned. How about the echo does some actual journalism and finds out. joncon
  • Score: 15

1:31pm Mon 14 Jul 14

Letcommonsenseprevail says...

Offered housing and turned it down? Perhaps we should be worrying about someone else..............?
Offered housing and turned it down? Perhaps we should be worrying about someone else..............? Letcommonsenseprevail
  • Score: 4

1:53pm Mon 14 Jul 14

gerbil112 says...

harrypaye wrote:
It clearly states that they were evicted as they couldn't pay the rent after their pensions were stopped. What a sick load of toe rags local people are picking on them here. People of this age are entitled to their pension. If its not paid they fall into trouble. As to accepting help. The only thing you have when old is your pride. If they were approachd in the wrong way they would have rejected it. When you get old your body no longer works like it should and you need help with the simplest things. I know I am 73 myself. I cannot believe the attitude of these posters on here. It's two very old people on the street for goodness sake.
No, their passions were not stopped. The way the pensions were paid CHANGED, as it did for every pensioner. It had to be paid into a bank or Post Office account, no more pension books or queuing at the Post Office to collect cash weekly (with the risk of getting robbed of it). I'm sure the rental payments, even to a private landlord, could be done via Direct Debit with no chance of falling into arrears.
[quote][p][bold]harrypaye[/bold] wrote: It clearly states that they were evicted as they couldn't pay the rent after their pensions were stopped. What a sick load of toe rags local people are picking on them here. People of this age are entitled to their pension. If its not paid they fall into trouble. As to accepting help. The only thing you have when old is your pride. If they were approachd in the wrong way they would have rejected it. When you get old your body no longer works like it should and you need help with the simplest things. I know I am 73 myself. I cannot believe the attitude of these posters on here. It's two very old people on the street for goodness sake.[/p][/quote]No, their passions were not stopped. The way the pensions were paid CHANGED, as it did for every pensioner. It had to be paid into a bank or Post Office account, no more pension books or queuing at the Post Office to collect cash weekly (with the risk of getting robbed of it). I'm sure the rental payments, even to a private landlord, could be done via Direct Debit with no chance of falling into arrears. gerbil112
  • Score: 14

2:45pm Mon 14 Jul 14

chucky251 says...

offer the house to someone who actually needs it then if there not interested. there will be people begging for emergency housing
offer the house to someone who actually needs it then if there not interested. there will be people begging for emergency housing chucky251
  • Score: 5

3:18pm Mon 14 Jul 14

Gingertree says...

They would get housing benefit which I thought was paid electronicly directly to the landlord anyway Id say ther is more to this story than meets the eye
They would get housing benefit which I thought was paid electronicly directly to the landlord anyway Id say ther is more to this story than meets the eye Gingertree
  • Score: 5

3:34pm Mon 14 Jul 14

Sir Beachy Head says...

It looks like they're under the shelter next to Ramsdens chippy.
Great views, the food isnt bad, the weather is warm and if you''ve got plenty of money in the bank, it's a glorified camping holiday.

Good luck to them.
It looks like they're under the shelter next to Ramsdens chippy. Great views, the food isnt bad, the weather is warm and if you''ve got plenty of money in the bank, it's a glorified camping holiday. Good luck to them. Sir Beachy Head
  • Score: 4

3:46pm Mon 14 Jul 14

on-the-sunny-side says...

FerryFan wrote:
When I had difficulties a few years ago I was offered accommodation in a block full of loud families, when due to autism I need somewhere quiet as i have to be in a place that is relatively peaceful. Was offered a second place again, mixed use - so I am still in rented. I am staying in private rented until I am eligible to go into over 60s!! Sometimes accommodation offered is just not suitable for the needs of some people, this does not appear to be taken into account. It would be interesting to know the reasons this couple had for refusing help before just blaming them for refusing it in the first place, at their time of life they would need to feel safe and secure, and if they feel happier on the streets than what the council have offered them, well, best not judge too harshly.
councils do not have accommodation just lying around empty, waiting for the right person to need that particular place. they have to search around to find anything possible. if its unsuitable, that's sad but its got to be better than nothing. I wonder if this elderly couple would turn it down so willing in January?
[quote][p][bold]FerryFan[/bold] wrote: When I had difficulties a few years ago I was offered accommodation in a block full of loud families, when due to autism I need somewhere quiet as i have to be in a place that is relatively peaceful. Was offered a second place again, mixed use - so I am still in rented. I am staying in private rented until I am eligible to go into over 60s!! Sometimes accommodation offered is just not suitable for the needs of some people, this does not appear to be taken into account. It would be interesting to know the reasons this couple had for refusing help before just blaming them for refusing it in the first place, at their time of life they would need to feel safe and secure, and if they feel happier on the streets than what the council have offered them, well, best not judge too harshly.[/p][/quote]councils do not have accommodation just lying around empty, waiting for the right person to need that particular place. they have to search around to find anything possible. if its unsuitable, that's sad but its got to be better than nothing. I wonder if this elderly couple would turn it down so willing in January? on-the-sunny-side
  • Score: 3

3:55pm Mon 14 Jul 14

Gingertree says...

on-the-sunny-side wrote:
FerryFan wrote:
When I had difficulties a few years ago I was offered accommodation in a block full of loud families, when due to autism I need somewhere quiet as i have to be in a place that is relatively peaceful. Was offered a second place again, mixed use - so I am still in rented. I am staying in private rented until I am eligible to go into over 60s!! Sometimes accommodation offered is just not suitable for the needs of some people, this does not appear to be taken into account. It would be interesting to know the reasons this couple had for refusing help before just blaming them for refusing it in the first place, at their time of life they would need to feel safe and secure, and if they feel happier on the streets than what the council have offered them, well, best not judge too harshly.
councils do not have accommodation just lying around empty, waiting for the right person to need that particular place. they have to search around to find anything possible. if its unsuitable, that's sad but its got to be better than nothing. I wonder if this elderly couple would turn it down so willing in January?
Also if the place offered is so unsuitable You'll find it's easier to get a housing transfer if you actually take the accommodation offered in the first place If I was on the streets I'd take anything offered with a massive amount of gratitude
[quote][p][bold]on-the-sunny-side[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]FerryFan[/bold] wrote: When I had difficulties a few years ago I was offered accommodation in a block full of loud families, when due to autism I need somewhere quiet as i have to be in a place that is relatively peaceful. Was offered a second place again, mixed use - so I am still in rented. I am staying in private rented until I am eligible to go into over 60s!! Sometimes accommodation offered is just not suitable for the needs of some people, this does not appear to be taken into account. It would be interesting to know the reasons this couple had for refusing help before just blaming them for refusing it in the first place, at their time of life they would need to feel safe and secure, and if they feel happier on the streets than what the council have offered them, well, best not judge too harshly.[/p][/quote]councils do not have accommodation just lying around empty, waiting for the right person to need that particular place. they have to search around to find anything possible. if its unsuitable, that's sad but its got to be better than nothing. I wonder if this elderly couple would turn it down so willing in January?[/p][/quote]Also if the place offered is so unsuitable You'll find it's easier to get a housing transfer if you actually take the accommodation offered in the first place If I was on the streets I'd take anything offered with a massive amount of gratitude Gingertree
  • Score: 3

4:32pm Mon 14 Jul 14

arthur1948 says...

Welcome to caring Britain 2014....;non caring government both local and national.....and non caring people....

I'm allright jack country....
Welcome to caring Britain 2014....;non caring government both local and national.....and non caring people.... I'm allright jack country.... arthur1948
  • Score: 3

5:25pm Mon 14 Jul 14

FerryFan says...

Thumbs downers on my earliest comment obviously don't know what it is like to live with autism and need a certain type of accommodation. Would imagine that if this couple needed a certain type of accommodation for any particular reason then the thumbsdowners would probably be active on that too...
Thumbs downers on my earliest comment obviously don't know what it is like to live with autism and need a certain type of accommodation. Would imagine that if this couple needed a certain type of accommodation for any particular reason then the thumbsdowners would probably be active on that too... FerryFan
  • Score: 4

5:50pm Mon 14 Jul 14

nikgnomic says...

those who glibly say they refused help and don't deserve sympathy your lack of humanity sickens me.
84 & 75 and only recently forced to open a bank account would suggest that they are vulnerable even without any health issues.
Pensions service are bad enough, but council could pay increase rent on nil income declaration and additional top-ups., but not likely they would even know it existed or be able do the paperwork. let alone fulfil the nonsense request to prove you have no income.
If that were not enough there is the council little know power to promote well-being.
I hear rumour they may have a dog, The choice may be live on the streets or give up one of the few things they have left in life, (a source of unconditional love in a heartless greedy town) in exchange for a B&B room for part of the day.
This shames everyone - give them some dignity and a secure home. it would cost a fraction of a surf reef
those who glibly say they refused help and don't deserve sympathy your lack of humanity sickens me. 84 & 75 and only recently forced to open a bank account would suggest that they are vulnerable even without any health issues. Pensions service are bad enough, but council could pay increase rent on nil income declaration and additional top-ups., but not likely they would even know it existed or be able do the paperwork. let alone fulfil the nonsense request to prove you have no income. If that were not enough there is the council little know power to promote well-being. I hear rumour they may have a dog, The choice may be live on the streets or give up one of the few things they have left in life, (a source of unconditional love in a heartless greedy town) in exchange for a B&B room for part of the day. This shames everyone - give them some dignity and a secure home. it would cost a fraction of a surf reef nikgnomic
  • Score: 10

5:54pm Mon 14 Jul 14

Bournefre says...

It sounds like they were inconveniencing themselves for the sake of making a point - they stopped paying the rent because they wanted to withdraw their pensions from the post office and not the bank, the landlord evicted them because they didn't pay the rent, they were offered emergency accommodation but chose to live on the streets instead.

It would seem a lot easier if they had withdrawn their pensions from the bank or cashpoint, or paid their rent by cheque or set up a direct debit, then they wouldn't have been evicted, but I suppose I'll just have to wait until I get to that age.
It sounds like they were inconveniencing themselves for the sake of making a point - they stopped paying the rent because they wanted to withdraw their pensions from the post office and not the bank, the landlord evicted them because they didn't pay the rent, they were offered emergency accommodation but chose to live on the streets instead. It would seem a lot easier if they had withdrawn their pensions from the bank or cashpoint, or paid their rent by cheque or set up a direct debit, then they wouldn't have been evicted, but I suppose I'll just have to wait until I get to that age. Bournefre
  • Score: 0

6:11pm Mon 14 Jul 14

JemBmth says...

roamer200 wrote:
alasdair1967 wrote:
Difficult story to comment on seems there is a lot going on here yes the landlord should be ashamed of himself for evicting this couple , however in the report it does state they have been offered emergency accommodation which would have got them of the streets however they have refused this and remain in this plight , hope it gets resolved
Why is the landlord necessarily wrong. They don't rent properties for fun!! Maybe they needed the rent to pay the mortgage and not lose their own home. Reckon there is a lot more to this!!
There are freeloaders everywhere. I guess they don't have any friends.
[quote][p][bold]roamer200[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alasdair1967[/bold] wrote: Difficult story to comment on seems there is a lot going on here yes the landlord should be ashamed of himself for evicting this couple , however in the report it does state they have been offered emergency accommodation which would have got them of the streets however they have refused this and remain in this plight , hope it gets resolved[/p][/quote]Why is the landlord necessarily wrong. They don't rent properties for fun!! Maybe they needed the rent to pay the mortgage and not lose their own home. Reckon there is a lot more to this!![/p][/quote]There are freeloaders everywhere. I guess they don't have any friends. JemBmth
  • Score: -6

6:35pm Mon 14 Jul 14

mikeymagic says...

Cut your nose off to spite your face.
Cut your nose off to spite your face. mikeymagic
  • Score: 5

6:36pm Mon 14 Jul 14

Carolyn43 says...

So many not understanding the thinking of some elderly people. Many have never had a bank account and don't know how they work. They don't know how computers work and get confused. Maybe they had an unpleasant experience with a bank. Maybe they don't trust allowing a bank to pay direct debits out of accounts for them.

I refuse to condemn them without knowing why they had a problem with having pensions paid into a bank. I'm sorry they are so many ready to condemn when knowing nothing about their situation. What an unfeeling bunch.
So many not understanding the thinking of some elderly people. Many have never had a bank account and don't know how they work. They don't know how computers work and get confused. Maybe they had an unpleasant experience with a bank. Maybe they don't trust allowing a bank to pay direct debits out of accounts for them. I refuse to condemn them without knowing why they had a problem with having pensions paid into a bank. I'm sorry they are so many ready to condemn when knowing nothing about their situation. What an unfeeling bunch. Carolyn43
  • Score: 8

7:07pm Mon 14 Jul 14

SSPossee says...

The emergency accommodation was a room at St Pauls crack house. I don't blame them for rejecting that. Not a safe place at all! Maybe this paper can organise a whip round to get a place. Maybe Dave Wells could help. It may help him get rid of his terrible rep as a landlord. Or is he the fella who threw them out!
The emergency accommodation was a room at St Pauls crack house. I don't blame them for rejecting that. Not a safe place at all! Maybe this paper can organise a whip round to get a place. Maybe Dave Wells could help. It may help him get rid of his terrible rep as a landlord. Or is he the fella who threw them out! SSPossee
  • Score: 9

7:53pm Mon 14 Jul 14

apm1954 says...

What do you expect from a lib con government , once upon a time the liberals cared not no more. Quite frankly the tories never have, vote labour at least they care, oh no they left the country in debt I would like to be told how much the tories left the incoming labour gov at the time .
What do you expect from a lib con government , once upon a time the liberals cared not no more. Quite frankly the tories never have, vote labour at least they care, oh no they left the country in debt I would like to be told how much the tories left the incoming labour gov at the time . apm1954
  • Score: -4

8:13pm Mon 14 Jul 14

alasdair1967 says...

Hessenford wrote:
alasdair1967 wrote:
pugsley29 wrote:
Even if they were offered emergency housing they still have to pay for it and they still have no money. Just needs a sensible person to arrange payment by cheque or a very convincing person to arrange for them to open bank accounts and get paid by bacs (easier said than done for the older generation).
According to another poster it Seems they have bank accounts and substantial savings !
Don't believe everything another poster writes, are we to seriously believe that if they have substantial savings in bank accounts they choose to live as they are, if the above is true perhaps they have some sort of mental health issues, I think there's more to this story than is being relayed.
I do notice that the post I was referring to has been removed at some point during the day along with all other replies to that post , maybe was too close to the truth I know people where saying it breached data protection
[quote][p][bold]Hessenford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alasdair1967[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pugsley29[/bold] wrote: Even if they were offered emergency housing they still have to pay for it and they still have no money. Just needs a sensible person to arrange payment by cheque or a very convincing person to arrange for them to open bank accounts and get paid by bacs (easier said than done for the older generation).[/p][/quote]According to another poster it Seems they have bank accounts and substantial savings ![/p][/quote]Don't believe everything another poster writes, are we to seriously believe that if they have substantial savings in bank accounts they choose to live as they are, if the above is true perhaps they have some sort of mental health issues, I think there's more to this story than is being relayed.[/p][/quote]I do notice that the post I was referring to has been removed at some point during the day along with all other replies to that post , maybe was too close to the truth I know people where saying it breached data protection alasdair1967
  • Score: -1

8:13pm Mon 14 Jul 14

Bournefre says...

Carolyn43 wrote:
So many not understanding the thinking of some elderly people. Many have never had a bank account and don't know how they work. They don't know how computers work and get confused. Maybe they had an unpleasant experience with a bank. Maybe they don't trust allowing a bank to pay direct debits out of accounts for them.

I refuse to condemn them without knowing why they had a problem with having pensions paid into a bank. I'm sorry they are so many ready to condemn when knowing nothing about their situation. What an unfeeling bunch.
They may have a problem with mobile phones, maybe even computers, but bank accounts aren't a new invention.
[quote][p][bold]Carolyn43[/bold] wrote: So many not understanding the thinking of some elderly people. Many have never had a bank account and don't know how they work. They don't know how computers work and get confused. Maybe they had an unpleasant experience with a bank. Maybe they don't trust allowing a bank to pay direct debits out of accounts for them. I refuse to condemn them without knowing why they had a problem with having pensions paid into a bank. I'm sorry they are so many ready to condemn when knowing nothing about their situation. What an unfeeling bunch.[/p][/quote]They may have a problem with mobile phones, maybe even computers, but bank accounts aren't a new invention. Bournefre
  • Score: 5

8:34pm Mon 14 Jul 14

Hobad1 says...

Sir Beachy Head wrote:
Hopefully we'll become a more caring and compasionate society soon and euthanaesia will be an option for the over 70's.
Hopefully you're over 70.
[quote][p][bold]Sir Beachy Head[/bold] wrote: Hopefully we'll become a more caring and compasionate society soon and euthanaesia will be an option for the over 70's.[/p][/quote]Hopefully you're over 70. Hobad1
  • Score: 2

8:35pm Mon 14 Jul 14

Rally says...

Argie Bhagie wrote:
Oh so there's soup being served in the town centre? Good oh - Just what i need when I'm shopping or sun bathing. Do tell where.
Hmm, looks like the asinine nickynoodah has an equally asinine companion.
One hopes and pray that they are not a male and a female - it could, shudder, shudder, lead to the horror of them breeding. . .
[quote][p][bold]Argie Bhagie[/bold] wrote: Oh so there's soup being served in the town centre? Good oh - Just what i need when I'm shopping or sun bathing. Do tell where.[/p][/quote]Hmm, looks like the asinine nickynoodah has an equally asinine companion. One hopes and pray that they are not a male and a female - it could, shudder, shudder, lead to the horror of them breeding. . . Rally
  • Score: 7

8:48pm Mon 14 Jul 14

FerryFan says...

Carolyn43 wrote:
So many not understanding the thinking of some elderly people. Many have never had a bank account and don't know how they work. They don't know how computers work and get confused. Maybe they had an unpleasant experience with a bank. Maybe they don't trust allowing a bank to pay direct debits out of accounts for them.

I refuse to condemn them without knowing why they had a problem with having pensions paid into a bank. I'm sorry they are so many ready to condemn when knowing nothing about their situation. What an unfeeling bunch.
I don't trust those new machines Barclays have in the town centre - I like to go to the counter with bills I need to pay and hand over cash. No I do not want to put it in an envelope and put it in a drawer, I want a cashier to process, stamp and hand the stub back to me so if there is any dispute over payment I have the stamped counterfoil.

No, I get hassled by a member of staff with an ipad offering to show me - yes I do know how to do it, dear, I just prefer it the old way.

And so do a lot of elderly people as well.
[quote][p][bold]Carolyn43[/bold] wrote: So many not understanding the thinking of some elderly people. Many have never had a bank account and don't know how they work. They don't know how computers work and get confused. Maybe they had an unpleasant experience with a bank. Maybe they don't trust allowing a bank to pay direct debits out of accounts for them. I refuse to condemn them without knowing why they had a problem with having pensions paid into a bank. I'm sorry they are so many ready to condemn when knowing nothing about their situation. What an unfeeling bunch.[/p][/quote]I don't trust those new machines Barclays have in the town centre - I like to go to the counter with bills I need to pay and hand over cash. No I do not want to put it in an envelope and put it in a drawer, I want a cashier to process, stamp and hand the stub back to me so if there is any dispute over payment I have the stamped counterfoil. No, I get hassled by a member of staff with an ipad offering to show me - yes I do know how to do it, dear, I just prefer it the old way. And so do a lot of elderly people as well. FerryFan
  • Score: 5

9:43pm Mon 14 Jul 14

cromwell9 says...

whataboutthat wrote:
Leave them to it. They seem quite stubborn. Quite last century. Let them come for help then they can be sorted.
This couple may have mental health problems.you cant just leave them to die on the streets.
The female was born in 1930 etc ,These are elderly people .
How would you like it if your 84 yr old mum a dad were living on the streets.
God I hope we are not going to go back to the Work house days 1832 -1948.
AGE UK .Salvation Army,,Churches, They can sort it out in a compasionate manner
The Council/DWP/Social etc .They are Heartless .All they do is fill in dots etc,
DISGRACEFULL.
[quote][p][bold]whataboutthat[/bold] wrote: Leave them to it. They seem quite stubborn. Quite last century. Let them come for help then they can be sorted.[/p][/quote]This couple may have mental health problems.you cant just leave them to die on the streets. The female was born in 1930 etc ,These are elderly people . How would you like it if your 84 yr old mum a dad were living on the streets. God I hope we are not going to go back to the Work house days 1832 -1948. AGE UK .Salvation Army,,Churches, They can sort it out in a compasionate manner The Council/DWP/Social etc .They are Heartless .All they do is fill in dots etc, DISGRACEFULL. cromwell9
  • Score: 4

9:46pm Mon 14 Jul 14

cromwell9 says...

Chief-Wiggum wrote:
Here is an idea, go to a bank get a basic account, and pay your rent. They only have themselves to blame for this and im sure they have had opportunities to sort it but are trying to make some sort of point? Oh well, next...
Dont be so heartless.
It can be sorted out with care and understanding.
Your attitude is cold and heartless.
Hope you tuck yourself up in your nice warm bed ,Sleep well .
[quote][p][bold]Chief-Wiggum[/bold] wrote: Here is an idea, go to a bank get a basic account, and pay your rent. They only have themselves to blame for this and im sure they have had opportunities to sort it but are trying to make some sort of point? Oh well, next...[/p][/quote]Dont be so heartless. It can be sorted out with care and understanding. Your attitude is cold and heartless. Hope you tuck yourself up in your nice warm bed ,Sleep well . cromwell9
  • Score: 2

9:56pm Mon 14 Jul 14

cromwell9 says...

Letcommonsenseprevai
l
wrote:
Offered housing and turned it down? Perhaps we should be worrying about someone else..............?
People like you just dont get it do you .
We are talking about two eldetly people at the sunset of their lives Homeless ,
It dosent matter how they got there ,or whose fault it is ,Just get them a Warden flat ,and let them stay together ,If there are other problems ,with compasion and care ,anything can be sorted out .
[quote][p][bold]Letcommonsenseprevai l[/bold] wrote: Offered housing and turned it down? Perhaps we should be worrying about someone else..............?[/p][/quote]People like you just dont get it do you . We are talking about two eldetly people at the sunset of their lives Homeless , It dosent matter how they got there ,or whose fault it is ,Just get them a Warden flat ,and let them stay together ,If there are other problems ,with compasion and care ,anything can be sorted out . cromwell9
  • Score: 2

9:57pm Mon 14 Jul 14

BigAlfromsunnyBournemouth says...

So cromwell9 wants them both frogmarched into their emergency accommodation (against their wishes) and probably locked in so they can't get out again?
So cromwell9 wants them both frogmarched into their emergency accommodation (against their wishes) and probably locked in so they can't get out again? BigAlfromsunnyBournemouth
  • Score: -1

9:59pm Mon 14 Jul 14

cromwell9 says...

chucky251 wrote:
offer the house to someone who actually needs it then if there not interested. there will be people begging for emergency housing
You Idiot
[quote][p][bold]chucky251[/bold] wrote: offer the house to someone who actually needs it then if there not interested. there will be people begging for emergency housing[/p][/quote]You Idiot cromwell9
  • Score: 3

10:01pm Mon 14 Jul 14

cromwell9 says...

JemBmth wrote:
roamer200 wrote:
alasdair1967 wrote:
Difficult story to comment on seems there is a lot going on here yes the landlord should be ashamed of himself for evicting this couple , however in the report it does state they have been offered emergency accommodation which would have got them of the streets however they have refused this and remain in this plight , hope it gets resolved
Why is the landlord necessarily wrong. They don't rent properties for fun!! Maybe they needed the rent to pay the mortgage and not lose their own home. Reckon there is a lot more to this!!
There are freeloaders everywhere. I guess they don't have any friends.
You should know,
[quote][p][bold]JemBmth[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]roamer200[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alasdair1967[/bold] wrote: Difficult story to comment on seems there is a lot going on here yes the landlord should be ashamed of himself for evicting this couple , however in the report it does state they have been offered emergency accommodation which would have got them of the streets however they have refused this and remain in this plight , hope it gets resolved[/p][/quote]Why is the landlord necessarily wrong. They don't rent properties for fun!! Maybe they needed the rent to pay the mortgage and not lose their own home. Reckon there is a lot more to this!![/p][/quote]There are freeloaders everywhere. I guess they don't have any friends.[/p][/quote]You should know, cromwell9
  • Score: -5

10:09pm Mon 14 Jul 14

cromwell9 says...

apm1954 wrote:
What do you expect from a lib con government , once upon a time the liberals cared not no more. Quite frankly the tories never have, vote labour at least they care, oh no they left the country in debt I would like to be told how much the tories left the incoming labour gov at the time .
Your behind the times my friend.
Lib Dems /Labour once stood for the working man .
Now all there interested in is Public Secter workers / Immigrants/and Minority groups.
If you want to get your country back for the BRITs ,You have to vote UKIP,
Iff you dont ,You will have to convert to Islam in 20 yrs time.
And I am not Joking,
It up to all of you .THINK about it .Do some reserch etc ,
[quote][p][bold]apm1954[/bold] wrote: What do you expect from a lib con government , once upon a time the liberals cared not no more. Quite frankly the tories never have, vote labour at least they care, oh no they left the country in debt I would like to be told how much the tories left the incoming labour gov at the time .[/p][/quote]Your behind the times my friend. Lib Dems /Labour once stood for the working man . Now all there interested in is Public Secter workers / Immigrants/and Minority groups. If you want to get your country back for the BRITs ,You have to vote UKIP, Iff you dont ,You will have to convert to Islam in 20 yrs time. And I am not Joking, It up to all of you .THINK about it .Do some reserch etc , cromwell9
  • Score: 0

10:10pm Mon 14 Jul 14

BIGTONE says...

How come it seems to have missed everybody to their plight for 3 months?
How come it seems to have missed everybody to their plight for 3 months? BIGTONE
  • Score: 4

10:14pm Mon 14 Jul 14

misplacedspaniard says...

roamer200 wrote:
alasdair1967 wrote:
Difficult story to comment on seems there is a lot going on here yes the landlord should be ashamed of himself for evicting this couple , however in the report it does state they have been offered emergency accommodation which would have got them of the streets however they have refused this and remain in this plight , hope it gets resolved
Why is the landlord necessarily wrong. They don't rent properties for fun!! Maybe they needed the rent to pay the mortgage and not lose their own home. Reckon there is a lot more to this!!
Landlords are scum of the earth and should be stopped. Millions of people will end up like this couple in the future because of landlords and greedy banks. It's a disgrace.

Cannot believe this ridiculous comment got 93 thumbs up.
[quote][p][bold]roamer200[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alasdair1967[/bold] wrote: Difficult story to comment on seems there is a lot going on here yes the landlord should be ashamed of himself for evicting this couple , however in the report it does state they have been offered emergency accommodation which would have got them of the streets however they have refused this and remain in this plight , hope it gets resolved[/p][/quote]Why is the landlord necessarily wrong. They don't rent properties for fun!! Maybe they needed the rent to pay the mortgage and not lose their own home. Reckon there is a lot more to this!![/p][/quote]Landlords are scum of the earth and should be stopped. Millions of people will end up like this couple in the future because of landlords and greedy banks. It's a disgrace. Cannot believe this ridiculous comment got 93 thumbs up. misplacedspaniard
  • Score: -4

10:15pm Mon 14 Jul 14

cromwell9 says...

BigAlfromsunnyBourne
mouth
wrote:
So cromwell9 wants them both frogmarched into their emergency accommodation (against their wishes) and probably locked in so they can't get out again?
I did not say that ,
You will have to pop into Specsavers,to get your brain .OOPs eyes tested,
[quote][p][bold]BigAlfromsunnyBourne mouth[/bold] wrote: So cromwell9 wants them both frogmarched into their emergency accommodation (against their wishes) and probably locked in so they can't get out again?[/p][/quote]I did not say that , You will have to pop into Specsavers,to get your brain .OOPs eyes tested, cromwell9
  • Score: 0

10:35pm Mon 14 Jul 14

Wackerone says...

cromwell9 wrote:
chucky251 wrote:
offer the house to someone who actually needs it then if there not interested. there will be people begging for emergency housing
You Idiot
Careful cromwell9, calling people idiots gets you a threatening written warning from the echo big brother police. Another yellow card and I'm out!
[quote][p][bold]cromwell9[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]chucky251[/bold] wrote: offer the house to someone who actually needs it then if there not interested. there will be people begging for emergency housing[/p][/quote]You Idiot[/p][/quote]Careful cromwell9, calling people idiots gets you a threatening written warning from the echo big brother police. Another yellow card and I'm out! Wackerone
  • Score: 1

11:27pm Mon 14 Jul 14

RM says...

Whatever the full story behind this it is very sad that a couple of this age should be homeless & I hope hat the Council can offer them some suitable accommodation without delay & point them in the direction of the CAB to get help with sorting out their pensions problem.
Whatever the full story behind this it is very sad that a couple of this age should be homeless & I hope hat the Council can offer them some suitable accommodation without delay & point them in the direction of the CAB to get help with sorting out their pensions problem. RM
  • Score: 4

11:41pm Mon 14 Jul 14

rcoleman_uk says...

I'm sorry if I sound unsympathetic. Firstly where are the family? Secondly why were they too stubborn to have the money paid into their bank or a bank account? I'm sure there were numerous bodies who have attempted to help them over the past months and years down from the benefits office giving advice on where to go and what to do, to the council attempting to rehouse them and all the other people along the way. Lastly they have also been offered housing, something many people would offer their right arm for and they refused. A few tips for the lovely couple, - Accept help, stop being stubborn, move with the times, and allow people to help you. At the end of the day the new process has only been brought in to make things easier and SAFER for everyone. Why people throw help back in your face, almost to the point of rudeness sometimes is beyond me.
I'm sorry if I sound unsympathetic. Firstly where are the family? Secondly why were they too stubborn to have the money paid into their bank or a bank account? I'm sure there were numerous bodies who have attempted to help them over the past months and years down from the benefits office giving advice on where to go and what to do, to the council attempting to rehouse them and all the other people along the way. Lastly they have also been offered housing, something many people would offer their right arm for and they refused. A few tips for the lovely couple, - Accept help, stop being stubborn, move with the times, and allow people to help you. At the end of the day the new process has only been brought in to make things easier and SAFER for everyone. Why people throw help back in your face, almost to the point of rudeness sometimes is beyond me. rcoleman_uk
  • Score: 9

11:51pm Mon 14 Jul 14

breamoreboy says...

alasdair1967 wrote:
And as for the pensions department they also need a firm kick up the backside it's now July and the couple have had issues since April !
If the couple have refused help could it be possible that they refused to open a bank account? All the report says is "It is believed that after the pensions system changed, they were told they had to have their pensions paid electronically into a bank account. Because they were unable to carry on collecting their money in their usual way, they were unable to pay their rent". That's as clear as mud in my view.
[quote][p][bold]alasdair1967[/bold] wrote: And as for the pensions department they also need a firm kick up the backside it's now July and the couple have had issues since April ![/p][/quote]If the couple have refused help could it be possible that they refused to open a bank account? All the report says is "It is believed that after the pensions system changed, they were told they had to have their pensions paid electronically into a bank account. Because they were unable to carry on collecting their money in their usual way, they were unable to pay their rent". That's as clear as mud in my view. breamoreboy
  • Score: 3

2:28am Tue 15 Jul 14

Berriano says...

why bother worrying about these OAP's who have been payin taxes their whole life,need to keep looking after the young murderers out there who need 2,3,4 more chances.Sooooo glad i dont live in england anymore,i'm proud to be english but not proud of england and the way it keeps letting good people down.
why bother worrying about these OAP's who have been payin taxes their whole life,need to keep looking after the young murderers out there who need 2,3,4 more chances.Sooooo glad i dont live in england anymore,i'm proud to be english but not proud of england and the way it keeps letting good people down. Berriano
  • Score: -5

3:59am Tue 15 Jul 14

portia6 says...

Surely someone has a nice caravan to let to them?
Surely someone has a nice caravan to let to them? portia6
  • Score: -5

5:53am Tue 15 Jul 14

Gingertree says...

Well well well its made the daily mail So no doubt that means more finger wagging at Bournemouth council and the landlord in question Neither of who are at fault Help has been offered numerous times and its been refused You can't help them who don't want to help themselves
Well well well its made the daily mail So no doubt that means more finger wagging at Bournemouth council and the landlord in question Neither of who are at fault Help has been offered numerous times and its been refused You can't help them who don't want to help themselves Gingertree
  • Score: 6

7:12am Tue 15 Jul 14

hunnybee30a says...

Oh my god I can't believe some of the stuff I'm reading, they are 2 old ppl who may or may not have mental health, as someone who had suffered with mental health in the past they should not be left out on the streets, what is this world coming to I bet they both have worked hard all there life's putting money in to the pot for us just to use it on all the non British but when they need help they get f all, makes me so angry, what a wonderful world we are bringing are kids in to
Oh my god I can't believe some of the stuff I'm reading, they are 2 old ppl who may or may not have mental health, as someone who had suffered with mental health in the past they should not be left out on the streets, what is this world coming to I bet they both have worked hard all there life's putting money in to the pot for us just to use it on all the non British but when they need help they get f all, makes me so angry, what a wonderful world we are bringing are kids in to hunnybee30a
  • Score: 1

7:19am Tue 15 Jul 14

hamworthygirl says...

rcoleman_uk wrote:
I'm sorry if I sound unsympathetic. Firstly where are the family? Secondly why were they too stubborn to have the money paid into their bank or a bank account? I'm sure there were numerous bodies who have attempted to help them over the past months and years down from the benefits office giving advice on where to go and what to do, to the council attempting to rehouse them and all the other people along the way. Lastly they have also been offered housing, something many people would offer their right arm for and they refused. A few tips for the lovely couple, - Accept help, stop being stubborn, move with the times, and allow people to help you. At the end of the day the new process has only been brought in to make things easier and SAFER for everyone. Why people throw help back in your face, almost to the point of rudeness sometimes is beyond me.
Have to agree with points in this post, Im wondering why they couldnt collect their pensions? I assume they had a bank account so that rent could be paid directly to landlord if not then someone should have helped them to open one. I do think people have tired to help but they have for their own reasons turned them down. However its a very sad story and hopefully now the story is in the echo they will get the help they deserve.
[quote][p][bold]rcoleman_uk[/bold] wrote: I'm sorry if I sound unsympathetic. Firstly where are the family? Secondly why were they too stubborn to have the money paid into their bank or a bank account? I'm sure there were numerous bodies who have attempted to help them over the past months and years down from the benefits office giving advice on where to go and what to do, to the council attempting to rehouse them and all the other people along the way. Lastly they have also been offered housing, something many people would offer their right arm for and they refused. A few tips for the lovely couple, - Accept help, stop being stubborn, move with the times, and allow people to help you. At the end of the day the new process has only been brought in to make things easier and SAFER for everyone. Why people throw help back in your face, almost to the point of rudeness sometimes is beyond me.[/p][/quote]Have to agree with points in this post, Im wondering why they couldnt collect their pensions? I assume they had a bank account so that rent could be paid directly to landlord if not then someone should have helped them to open one. I do think people have tired to help but they have for their own reasons turned them down. However its a very sad story and hopefully now the story is in the echo they will get the help they deserve. hamworthygirl
  • Score: 5

8:02am Tue 15 Jul 14

ryan_gazzan@hotmail.com says...

Kelly Ansell, Bournemouth Borough Council’s strategic housing manager, said the couple had refused an offer of emergency accommodation. She urged the pensioners to 'make further contact with the council’s housing team'.

May I suggest Kelly Ansell gets off her backside and sends a taxi or maybe the Mayor’s limo to bring this couple to her immediately to sort out their problem rather than issue shameful comments from behind a desk in a cosy office.
Kelly Ansell, Bournemouth Borough Council’s strategic housing manager, said the couple had refused an offer of emergency accommodation. She urged the pensioners to 'make further contact with the council’s housing team'. May I suggest Kelly Ansell gets off her backside and sends a taxi or maybe the Mayor’s limo to bring this couple to her immediately to sort out their problem rather than issue shameful comments from behind a desk in a cosy office. ryan_gazzan@hotmail.com
  • Score: -5

8:37am Tue 15 Jul 14

podgie says...

I agree there is always two sides to a story
But my experience is that the services,courts ,and Landlords generally bend over backwards to help reasonable people in circumstances such as those mentioned in this article ,before things deteriorate to this level.
Secondly being an OAP does not stop you being a unreasonable,nasty,m
ental, Low life scumbag ,with an agenda.
I think
Harry Enfield did a sketch about two grumpy old ****...
I agree there is always two sides to a story But my experience is that the services,courts ,and Landlords generally bend over backwards to help reasonable people in circumstances such as those mentioned in this article ,before things deteriorate to this level. Secondly being an OAP does not stop you being a unreasonable,nasty,m ental, Low life scumbag ,with an agenda. I think Harry Enfield did a sketch about two grumpy old ****... podgie
  • Score: 7

9:43am Tue 15 Jul 14

Carolyn43 says...

podgie wrote:
I agree there is always two sides to a story
But my experience is that the services,courts ,and Landlords generally bend over backwards to help reasonable people in circumstances such as those mentioned in this article ,before things deteriorate to this level.
Secondly being an OAP does not stop you being a unreasonable,nasty,m

ental, Low life scumbag ,with an agenda.
I think
Harry Enfield did a sketch about two grumpy old ****...
And NOT being an OAP does not stop you being a unreasonable, nasty, mental, Low life scumbag, with an agenda. It also doesn't stop you deciding what someone's situation is without knowing all the facts.
[quote][p][bold]podgie[/bold] wrote: I agree there is always two sides to a story But my experience is that the services,courts ,and Landlords generally bend over backwards to help reasonable people in circumstances such as those mentioned in this article ,before things deteriorate to this level. Secondly being an OAP does not stop you being a unreasonable,nasty,m ental, Low life scumbag ,with an agenda. I think Harry Enfield did a sketch about two grumpy old ****...[/p][/quote]And NOT being an OAP does not stop you being a unreasonable, nasty, mental, Low life scumbag, with an agenda. It also doesn't stop you deciding what someone's situation is without knowing all the facts. Carolyn43
  • Score: 0

10:56am Tue 15 Jul 14

stevobath says...

Argie Bhagie wrote:
stevobath wrote:
Argie Bhagie wrote: The town centre is full of tramops and dossers. Teh number of tramps selling useless "magazines" is appalling, beggers threatening honest pedestrians. These filth need eradicating, moving back to London or getting kicked out, or just .... out.
I suggest it's people like you who need eradicating. 'Useless' magazines? Ever tried reading the Big Issue? No I doubt it. To complex.
Load of trendy liberal claptrap.

Tramps - yes they are tramps. Noone seems to use that word anymore but they are nothing more, nothing less.

Accommodation is available but has rules - and like, rules are like so restrictive like. No drinking, no drugs- tramps seem to be allowed to abuse dogs so lets put them in a kennel. (and give the dogs a good home.
What a spiteful, antagonistic, vile person you are. Easy when your' behind a screen to spew bile & hate.
Another mindless , brainwashed individual.
[quote][p][bold]Argie Bhagie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]stevobath[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Argie Bhagie[/bold] wrote: The town centre is full of tramops and dossers. Teh number of tramps selling useless "magazines" is appalling, beggers threatening honest pedestrians. These filth need eradicating, moving back to London or getting kicked out, or just .... out.[/p][/quote]I suggest it's people like you who need eradicating. 'Useless' magazines? Ever tried reading the Big Issue? No I doubt it. To complex.[/p][/quote]Load of trendy liberal claptrap. Tramps - yes they are tramps. Noone seems to use that word anymore but they are nothing more, nothing less. Accommodation is available but has rules - and like, rules are like so restrictive like. No drinking, no drugs- tramps seem to be allowed to abuse dogs so lets put them in a kennel. (and give the dogs a good home.[/p][/quote]What a spiteful, antagonistic, vile person you are. Easy when your' behind a screen to spew bile & hate. Another mindless , brainwashed individual. stevobath
  • Score: 4

11:12am Tue 15 Jul 14

stevobath says...

rcoleman_uk wrote:
I'm sorry if I sound unsympathetic. Firstly where are the family? Secondly why were they too stubborn to have the money paid into their bank or a bank account? I'm sure there were numerous bodies who have attempted to help them over the past months and years down from the benefits office giving advice on where to go and what to do, to the council attempting to rehouse them and all the other people along the way. Lastly they have also been offered housing, something many people would offer their right arm for and they refused. A few tips for the lovely couple, - Accept help, stop being stubborn, move with the times, and allow people to help you. At the end of the day the new process has only been brought in to make things easier and SAFER for everyone. Why people throw help back in your face, almost to the point of rudeness sometimes is beyond me.
How do you know they have family?

Ever been to the benefits office?

You think the new system is EASIER? LOL

Do you live in a bubble?
The systems FAILING. IDS & DWP have WASTED BILLIONS on failed IT & reorganisation. IDS has consistently lied & withheld information from the public, until recently, about the mess he has caused. It looks like finally he'll lose his job, although the arrogant man, (whom had the cheek to say he could live on £54 a week, whilst claiming £39 for 'breakfast', will be trusted in ANOTHER top position!


Now people working for DWP have started to leak info. about the chaos the system is in.
You seem to have as much of a clue as that vile man IDS?
Your' naïve statement, '...the new process has only been brought in to make things easier & SAFER......' must obviously be your attempt at sarcasm?
[quote][p][bold]rcoleman_uk[/bold] wrote: I'm sorry if I sound unsympathetic. Firstly where are the family? Secondly why were they too stubborn to have the money paid into their bank or a bank account? I'm sure there were numerous bodies who have attempted to help them over the past months and years down from the benefits office giving advice on where to go and what to do, to the council attempting to rehouse them and all the other people along the way. Lastly they have also been offered housing, something many people would offer their right arm for and they refused. A few tips for the lovely couple, - Accept help, stop being stubborn, move with the times, and allow people to help you. At the end of the day the new process has only been brought in to make things easier and SAFER for everyone. Why people throw help back in your face, almost to the point of rudeness sometimes is beyond me.[/p][/quote]How do you know they have family? Ever been to the benefits office? You think the new system is EASIER? LOL Do you live in a bubble? The systems FAILING. IDS & DWP have WASTED BILLIONS on failed IT & reorganisation. IDS has consistently lied & withheld information from the public, until recently, about the mess he has caused. It looks like finally he'll lose his job, although the arrogant man, (whom had the cheek to say he could live on £54 a week, whilst claiming £39 for 'breakfast', will be trusted in ANOTHER top position! Now people working for DWP have started to leak info. about the chaos the system is in. You seem to have as much of a clue as that vile man IDS? Your' naïve statement, '...the new process has only been brought in to make things easier & SAFER......' must obviously be your attempt at sarcasm? stevobath
  • Score: 0

11:27am Tue 15 Jul 14

whataboutthat says...

Well then - perhaps they should be arrested for vagrancy and then prsented to social services as a problem that needs sorting. Then the mainstream press won't have a story fed to them on a plate by the Echo to embarass Bournemouth. These sort of people have these sorts of problems up and down the country on a daily basis. This is not a story.
Well then - perhaps they should be arrested for vagrancy and then prsented to social services as a problem that needs sorting. Then the mainstream press won't have a story fed to them on a plate by the Echo to embarass Bournemouth. These sort of people have these sorts of problems up and down the country on a daily basis. This is not a story. whataboutthat
  • Score: 1

12:00pm Tue 15 Jul 14

A N Archist says...

a private landlord doesnt need a reason to evict after the initial 6 month tenancy has passed. All they have to do is service a section 21 of the 1988 housing act with the appropriate notice. no reason need be stated and hey presto you're on the streets even if your tenancy history is perfect. This is an odious system that favours the propertied classes and that's what capitalism does it prioritises property and money over people.

Of course there are going to be the usual immigrant bashing facists that will make hay out of this sort of thing but the root cause is capitalism.

The bottom line is that our elitist and hierarchical institutional model of government is corrupt and peverse from the very top to very bottom. From Downing street to county/city hall and guess what. In 2015 another (or the same) bunch of snout in the trough kiddy fiddlers are going to take up the reigns of power because apathy rules. The Sewage systems is cracked and broken now and leaking badly. The question is how can it be repaired?
a private landlord doesnt need a reason to evict after the initial 6 month tenancy has passed. All they have to do is service a section 21 of the 1988 housing act with the appropriate notice. no reason need be stated and hey presto you're on the streets even if your tenancy history is perfect. This is an odious system that favours the propertied classes and that's what capitalism does it prioritises property and money over people. Of course there are going to be the usual immigrant bashing facists that will make hay out of this sort of thing but the root cause is capitalism. The bottom line is that our elitist and hierarchical institutional model of government is corrupt and peverse from the very top to very bottom. From Downing street to county/city hall and guess what. In 2015 another (or the same) bunch of snout in the trough kiddy fiddlers are going to take up the reigns of power because apathy rules. The Sewage systems is cracked and broken now and leaking badly. The question is how can it be repaired? A N Archist
  • Score: 0

1:18pm Tue 15 Jul 14

rozmister says...

ryan_gazzan@hotmail.
com
wrote:
Kelly Ansell, Bournemouth Borough Council’s strategic housing manager, said the couple had refused an offer of emergency accommodation. She urged the pensioners to 'make further contact with the council’s housing team'.

May I suggest Kelly Ansell gets off her backside and sends a taxi or maybe the Mayor’s limo to bring this couple to her immediately to sort out their problem rather than issue shameful comments from behind a desk in a cosy office.
Are they going to start sending taxis or the mayor's limo for all vulnerable elderly people with housing issues who refuse to accept accommodation offered to them? Or just this couple because they're in the paper??

They're not the only vulnerable elderly people in Bournemouth who need housing by a long stretch and devoting excessive resources to this couple because they have the Echo's backing is only diverting resources from all the other people in need. There has to be a balance.
[quote][p][bold]ryan_gazzan@hotmail. com[/bold] wrote: Kelly Ansell, Bournemouth Borough Council’s strategic housing manager, said the couple had refused an offer of emergency accommodation. She urged the pensioners to 'make further contact with the council’s housing team'. May I suggest Kelly Ansell gets off her backside and sends a taxi or maybe the Mayor’s limo to bring this couple to her immediately to sort out their problem rather than issue shameful comments from behind a desk in a cosy office.[/p][/quote]Are they going to start sending taxis or the mayor's limo for all vulnerable elderly people with housing issues who refuse to accept accommodation offered to them? Or just this couple because they're in the paper?? They're not the only vulnerable elderly people in Bournemouth who need housing by a long stretch and devoting excessive resources to this couple because they have the Echo's backing is only diverting resources from all the other people in need. There has to be a balance. rozmister
  • Score: 6

1:43pm Tue 15 Jul 14

spooki says...

There must be more to this. I wouldn't have thought a landlord would turn up one day and throw them out without good reason, so they would have had warnings. They could go to the bank. How have they been getting their money until this happened? Why did their pensions "stop"? What was the accommodation they were offered and refused? Wouldn't it have been better to have a roof over their heads than sleeping out?
We're not getting the whole story.
There must be more to this. I wouldn't have thought a landlord would turn up one day and throw them out without good reason, so they would have had warnings. They could go to the bank. How have they been getting their money until this happened? Why did their pensions "stop"? What was the accommodation they were offered and refused? Wouldn't it have been better to have a roof over their heads than sleeping out? We're not getting the whole story. spooki
  • Score: 1

4:00pm Tue 15 Jul 14

Carl Baron says...

That Darn Balloon degrades every photo when taking pictures, the towns gone to Pot under Tory control. The bus station burnt down around 1997 never to be replaced town planners have made the once beautiful town into a Dump during the last 40 years. Drug addicts and Drunks abound in the Town at night. If you get on a bus you hardly ever hear English being spoken. Planners gave green light to Demolish of the only large indoor swimming pool and replace it with an IMAX Eyesore since also demolished. All the Benefit Scroungers have been given Flats and the Old Folk can go to Hell thrown out on the streets.
That Darn Balloon degrades every photo when taking pictures, the towns gone to Pot under Tory control. The bus station burnt down around 1997 never to be replaced town planners have made the once beautiful town into a Dump during the last 40 years. Drug addicts and Drunks abound in the Town at night. If you get on a bus you hardly ever hear English being spoken. Planners gave green light to Demolish of the only large indoor swimming pool and replace it with an IMAX Eyesore since also demolished. All the Benefit Scroungers have been given Flats and the Old Folk can go to Hell thrown out on the streets. Carl Baron
  • Score: -5

4:56pm Tue 15 Jul 14

rozmister says...

Carl Baron wrote:
That Darn Balloon degrades every photo when taking pictures, the towns gone to Pot under Tory control. The bus station burnt down around 1997 never to be replaced town planners have made the once beautiful town into a Dump during the last 40 years. Drug addicts and Drunks abound in the Town at night. If you get on a bus you hardly ever hear English being spoken. Planners gave green light to Demolish of the only large indoor swimming pool and replace it with an IMAX Eyesore since also demolished. All the Benefit Scroungers have been given Flats and the Old Folk can go to Hell thrown out on the streets.
What does the balloon, the bus station, drug addicts, drunks or the IMAX have to do with two homeless elderly people? You've more or less copy pasted your bordering racist rant from another story onto this one.
[quote][p][bold]Carl Baron[/bold] wrote: That Darn Balloon degrades every photo when taking pictures, the towns gone to Pot under Tory control. The bus station burnt down around 1997 never to be replaced town planners have made the once beautiful town into a Dump during the last 40 years. Drug addicts and Drunks abound in the Town at night. If you get on a bus you hardly ever hear English being spoken. Planners gave green light to Demolish of the only large indoor swimming pool and replace it with an IMAX Eyesore since also demolished. All the Benefit Scroungers have been given Flats and the Old Folk can go to Hell thrown out on the streets.[/p][/quote]What does the balloon, the bus station, drug addicts, drunks or the IMAX have to do with two homeless elderly people? You've more or less copy pasted your bordering racist rant from another story onto this one. rozmister
  • Score: 2

5:04pm Tue 15 Jul 14

Cookie75 says...

As usual the armchair critics out in force, when none of whom has any idea to the true situation of the couple nor the way social housing works.

Having worked for BBC housing; 1) 'Foreigners do NOT get housing above others 2) People from outside the area DO NOT get housing above the local populace 3) The savvy and unselfish amongst social tenants are realising that they do not need to stay in their 3 or 4 bed house (kids have left home) and they are volunteering their property to be used more appropriately and they go into smaller, more manageable accommodation.

As for the dogmatic, bigotted comment of "its this government.....they'
ve got to go"

As usual, don't let the truth get in the way of your blind prejudice. It was LABOUR in 2010 that changed a very very successful policy of 15+ yrs; changing housing benefit payments direct to the landlord instead to the tenant (cue recipe for disaster - which was known at the time). Why did they change it?

Purely for political reasons (sod the tenants). So that when the sh*t hit the fan, it would be the conservatives that got the blame as uncaring...blah blah blah.

I guess it worked because for the blind Labour sheep, they forget this.

Who's really the uncaring party? When you needlessly change a successful policy that works just for your own political benefit........

Stupid people!
As usual the armchair critics out in force, when none of whom has any idea to the true situation of the couple nor the way social housing works. Having worked for BBC housing; 1) 'Foreigners do NOT get housing above others 2) People from outside the area DO NOT get housing above the local populace 3) The savvy and unselfish amongst social tenants are realising that they do not need to stay in their 3 or 4 bed house (kids have left home) and they are volunteering their property to be used more appropriately and they go into smaller, more manageable accommodation. As for the dogmatic, bigotted comment of "its this government.....they' ve got to go" As usual, don't let the truth get in the way of your blind prejudice. It was LABOUR in 2010 that changed a very very successful policy of 15+ yrs; changing housing benefit payments direct to the landlord instead to the tenant (cue recipe for disaster - which was known at the time). Why did they change it? Purely for political reasons (sod the tenants). So that when the sh*t hit the fan, it would be the conservatives that got the blame as uncaring...blah blah blah. I guess it worked because for the blind Labour sheep, they forget this. Who's really the uncaring party? When you needlessly change a successful policy that works just for your own political benefit........ Stupid people! Cookie75
  • Score: 0

5:59pm Tue 15 Jul 14

Carl Baron says...

rozmister wrote:
Carl Baron wrote:
That Darn Balloon degrades every photo when taking pictures, the towns gone to Pot under Tory control. The bus station burnt down around 1997 never to be replaced town planners have made the once beautiful town into a Dump during the last 40 years. Drug addicts and Drunks abound in the Town at night. If you get on a bus you hardly ever hear English being spoken. Planners gave green light to Demolish of the only large indoor swimming pool and replace it with an IMAX Eyesore since also demolished. All the Benefit Scroungers have been given Flats and the Old Folk can go to Hell thrown out on the streets.
What does the balloon, the bus station, drug addicts, drunks or the IMAX have to do with two homeless elderly people? You've more or less copy pasted your bordering racist rant from another story onto this one.
Well if you don't like home truths too bad? My comments can't be that bad or untruthful otherwise their popularity on Social networks would not be so high, take this recent one with 499 in agreement for example. @ http://tinyurl.com/l
z2xmpz

When have you ever got such high scores with your pathetic Nit Picking? Try to grow up and use your real name little boy. :) :)
[quote][p][bold]rozmister[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Carl Baron[/bold] wrote: That Darn Balloon degrades every photo when taking pictures, the towns gone to Pot under Tory control. The bus station burnt down around 1997 never to be replaced town planners have made the once beautiful town into a Dump during the last 40 years. Drug addicts and Drunks abound in the Town at night. If you get on a bus you hardly ever hear English being spoken. Planners gave green light to Demolish of the only large indoor swimming pool and replace it with an IMAX Eyesore since also demolished. All the Benefit Scroungers have been given Flats and the Old Folk can go to Hell thrown out on the streets.[/p][/quote]What does the balloon, the bus station, drug addicts, drunks or the IMAX have to do with two homeless elderly people? You've more or less copy pasted your bordering racist rant from another story onto this one.[/p][/quote]Well if you don't like home truths too bad? My comments can't be that bad or untruthful otherwise their popularity on Social networks would not be so high, take this recent one with 499 in agreement for example. @ http://tinyurl.com/l z2xmpz When have you ever got such high scores with your pathetic Nit Picking? Try to grow up and use your real name little boy. :) :) Carl Baron
  • Score: -1

6:57pm Tue 15 Jul 14

rozmister says...

Carl Baron wrote:
rozmister wrote:
Carl Baron wrote:
That Darn Balloon degrades every photo when taking pictures, the towns gone to Pot under Tory control. The bus station burnt down around 1997 never to be replaced town planners have made the once beautiful town into a Dump during the last 40 years. Drug addicts and Drunks abound in the Town at night. If you get on a bus you hardly ever hear English being spoken. Planners gave green light to Demolish of the only large indoor swimming pool and replace it with an IMAX Eyesore since also demolished. All the Benefit Scroungers have been given Flats and the Old Folk can go to Hell thrown out on the streets.
What does the balloon, the bus station, drug addicts, drunks or the IMAX have to do with two homeless elderly people? You've more or less copy pasted your bordering racist rant from another story onto this one.
Well if you don't like home truths too bad? My comments can't be that bad or untruthful otherwise their popularity on Social networks would not be so high, take this recent one with 499 in agreement for example. @ http://tinyurl.com/l

z2xmpz

When have you ever got such high scores with your pathetic Nit Picking? Try to grow up and use your real name little boy. :) :)
They're not home truths, they're whinging comments from someone which are of no relevance to the story at all. I'm sure these homeless OAPs don't care about the IMAX or the balloon, they're more interested in the basics like housing.

The Daily Mail has 19.2 million visitors each month and only 499 took the time to mark your comment up, that's a pretty insignificant proportion. I would look for your comment to read it but I can't be bothered to trawl for 258 comments for what is no doubt some racist waffle about Muslims.

It's cute you think I'm a little boy but last time I checked I had girl parts. I don't use my name on the internet because there's plenty of loons like you on here so it pays to be careful.
[quote][p][bold]Carl Baron[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rozmister[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Carl Baron[/bold] wrote: That Darn Balloon degrades every photo when taking pictures, the towns gone to Pot under Tory control. The bus station burnt down around 1997 never to be replaced town planners have made the once beautiful town into a Dump during the last 40 years. Drug addicts and Drunks abound in the Town at night. If you get on a bus you hardly ever hear English being spoken. Planners gave green light to Demolish of the only large indoor swimming pool and replace it with an IMAX Eyesore since also demolished. All the Benefit Scroungers have been given Flats and the Old Folk can go to Hell thrown out on the streets.[/p][/quote]What does the balloon, the bus station, drug addicts, drunks or the IMAX have to do with two homeless elderly people? You've more or less copy pasted your bordering racist rant from another story onto this one.[/p][/quote]Well if you don't like home truths too bad? My comments can't be that bad or untruthful otherwise their popularity on Social networks would not be so high, take this recent one with 499 in agreement for example. @ http://tinyurl.com/l z2xmpz When have you ever got such high scores with your pathetic Nit Picking? Try to grow up and use your real name little boy. :) :)[/p][/quote]They're not home truths, they're whinging comments from someone which are of no relevance to the story at all. I'm sure these homeless OAPs don't care about the IMAX or the balloon, they're more interested in the basics like housing. The Daily Mail has 19.2 million visitors each month and only 499 took the time to mark your comment up, that's a pretty insignificant proportion. I would look for your comment to read it but I can't be bothered to trawl for 258 comments for what is no doubt some racist waffle about Muslims. It's cute you think I'm a little boy but last time I checked I had girl parts. I don't use my name on the internet because there's plenty of loons like you on here so it pays to be careful. rozmister
  • Score: 5

8:49pm Tue 15 Jul 14

Peroni says...

Shame on the councils.....and shame on this Government.
I really hope that Karma exists
And I hope it bites on the backside hard !!!!!
Shame on the councils.....and shame on this Government. I really hope that Karma exists And I hope it bites on the backside hard !!!!! Peroni
  • Score: 0

11:28pm Tue 15 Jul 14

podgie says...

Carolyn43 wrote:
podgie wrote:
I agree there is always two sides to a story
But my experience is that the services,courts ,and Landlords generally bend over backwards to help reasonable people in circumstances such as those mentioned in this article ,before things deteriorate to this level.
Secondly being an OAP does not stop you being a unreasonable,nasty,m


ental, Low life scumbag ,with an agenda.
I think
Harry Enfield did a sketch about two grumpy old ****...
And NOT being an OAP does not stop you being a unreasonable, nasty, mental, Low life scumbag, with an agenda. It also doesn't stop you deciding what someone's situation is without knowing all the facts.
Exactly my point numb nuts
[quote][p][bold]Carolyn43[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]podgie[/bold] wrote: I agree there is always two sides to a story But my experience is that the services,courts ,and Landlords generally bend over backwards to help reasonable people in circumstances such as those mentioned in this article ,before things deteriorate to this level. Secondly being an OAP does not stop you being a unreasonable,nasty,m ental, Low life scumbag ,with an agenda. I think Harry Enfield did a sketch about two grumpy old ****...[/p][/quote]And NOT being an OAP does not stop you being a unreasonable, nasty, mental, Low life scumbag, with an agenda. It also doesn't stop you deciding what someone's situation is without knowing all the facts.[/p][/quote]Exactly my point numb nuts podgie
  • Score: 3

11:32pm Tue 15 Jul 14

grumpyolddear says...

pugsley29 wrote:
Even if they were offered emergency housing they still have to pay for it and they still have no money. Just needs a sensible person to arrange payment by cheque or a very convincing person to arrange for them to open bank accounts and get paid by bacs (easier said than done for the older generation).
Won't they have accumulated unclaimed pension as they are not currently receiving it? Soon they will be able to afford the deposit and first month's rent...
[quote][p][bold]pugsley29[/bold] wrote: Even if they were offered emergency housing they still have to pay for it and they still have no money. Just needs a sensible person to arrange payment by cheque or a very convincing person to arrange for them to open bank accounts and get paid by bacs (easier said than done for the older generation).[/p][/quote]Won't they have accumulated unclaimed pension as they are not currently receiving it? Soon they will be able to afford the deposit and first month's rent... grumpyolddear
  • Score: -1

12:42pm Wed 16 Jul 14

stevobath says...

Carl Baron wrote:
rozmister wrote:
Carl Baron wrote:
That Darn Balloon degrades every photo when taking pictures, the towns gone to Pot under Tory control. The bus station burnt down around 1997 never to be replaced town planners have made the once beautiful town into a Dump during the last 40 years. Drug addicts and Drunks abound in the Town at night. If you get on a bus you hardly ever hear English being spoken. Planners gave green light to Demolish of the only large indoor swimming pool and replace it with an IMAX Eyesore since also demolished. All the Benefit Scroungers have been given Flats and the Old Folk can go to Hell thrown out on the streets.
What does the balloon, the bus station, drug addicts, drunks or the IMAX have to do with two homeless elderly people? You've more or less copy pasted your bordering racist rant from another story onto this one.
Well if you don't like home truths too bad? My comments can't be that bad or untruthful otherwise their popularity on Social networks would not be so high, take this recent one with 499 in agreement for example. @ http://tinyurl.com/l

z2xmpz

When have you ever got such high scores with your pathetic Nit Picking? Try to grow up and use your real name little boy. :) :)
You're foul.
Typical Right Wing 'Sheeple' Daily Mail reader.

499 thumbs ups from other bigots. Is that anything to be proud of?
You're gross.
[quote][p][bold]Carl Baron[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rozmister[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Carl Baron[/bold] wrote: That Darn Balloon degrades every photo when taking pictures, the towns gone to Pot under Tory control. The bus station burnt down around 1997 never to be replaced town planners have made the once beautiful town into a Dump during the last 40 years. Drug addicts and Drunks abound in the Town at night. If you get on a bus you hardly ever hear English being spoken. Planners gave green light to Demolish of the only large indoor swimming pool and replace it with an IMAX Eyesore since also demolished. All the Benefit Scroungers have been given Flats and the Old Folk can go to Hell thrown out on the streets.[/p][/quote]What does the balloon, the bus station, drug addicts, drunks or the IMAX have to do with two homeless elderly people? You've more or less copy pasted your bordering racist rant from another story onto this one.[/p][/quote]Well if you don't like home truths too bad? My comments can't be that bad or untruthful otherwise their popularity on Social networks would not be so high, take this recent one with 499 in agreement for example. @ http://tinyurl.com/l z2xmpz When have you ever got such high scores with your pathetic Nit Picking? Try to grow up and use your real name little boy. :) :)[/p][/quote]You're foul. Typical Right Wing 'Sheeple' Daily Mail reader. 499 thumbs ups from other bigots. Is that anything to be proud of? You're gross. stevobath
  • Score: 3

12:58pm Wed 16 Jul 14

stevobath says...

alasdair1967 wrote:
Hessenford wrote:
alasdair1967 wrote:
pugsley29 wrote:
Even if they were offered emergency housing they still have to pay for it and they still have no money. Just needs a sensible person to arrange payment by cheque or a very convincing person to arrange for them to open bank accounts and get paid by bacs (easier said than done for the older generation).
According to another poster it Seems they have bank accounts and substantial savings !
Don't believe everything another poster writes, are we to seriously believe that if they have substantial savings in bank accounts they choose to live as they are, if the above is true perhaps they have some sort of mental health issues, I think there's more to this story than is being relayed.
I do notice that the post I was referring to has been removed at some point during the day along with all other replies to that post , maybe was too close to the truth I know people where saying it breached data protection
Well it was from a so called 'professional' worker, who was privy to their situation & revealing details they shouldn't.
[quote][p][bold]alasdair1967[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hessenford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alasdair1967[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pugsley29[/bold] wrote: Even if they were offered emergency housing they still have to pay for it and they still have no money. Just needs a sensible person to arrange payment by cheque or a very convincing person to arrange for them to open bank accounts and get paid by bacs (easier said than done for the older generation).[/p][/quote]According to another poster it Seems they have bank accounts and substantial savings ![/p][/quote]Don't believe everything another poster writes, are we to seriously believe that if they have substantial savings in bank accounts they choose to live as they are, if the above is true perhaps they have some sort of mental health issues, I think there's more to this story than is being relayed.[/p][/quote]I do notice that the post I was referring to has been removed at some point during the day along with all other replies to that post , maybe was too close to the truth I know people where saying it breached data protection[/p][/quote]Well it was from a so called 'professional' worker, who was privy to their situation & revealing details they shouldn't. stevobath
  • Score: -1

1:34am Thu 17 Jul 14

breamoreboy says...

harrypaye wrote:
It clearly states that they were evicted as they couldn't pay the rent after their pensions were stopped. What a sick load of toe rags local people are picking on them here. People of this age are entitled to their pension. If its not paid they fall into trouble. As to accepting help. The only thing you have when old is your pride. If they were approachd in the wrong way they would have rejected it. When you get old your body no longer works like it should and you need help with the simplest things. I know I am 73 myself. I cannot believe the attitude of these posters on here. It's two very old people on the street for goodness sake.
I think I need new opticians as I've reread the article several times and I can't see any reference to their pensions being stopped. Would you care to enlighten me?
[quote][p][bold]harrypaye[/bold] wrote: It clearly states that they were evicted as they couldn't pay the rent after their pensions were stopped. What a sick load of toe rags local people are picking on them here. People of this age are entitled to their pension. If its not paid they fall into trouble. As to accepting help. The only thing you have when old is your pride. If they were approachd in the wrong way they would have rejected it. When you get old your body no longer works like it should and you need help with the simplest things. I know I am 73 myself. I cannot believe the attitude of these posters on here. It's two very old people on the street for goodness sake.[/p][/quote]I think I need new opticians as I've reread the article several times and I can't see any reference to their pensions being stopped. Would you care to enlighten me? breamoreboy
  • Score: -1

1:55am Thu 17 Jul 14

breamoreboy says...

Ginny nz wrote:
I don't get this story . You have an elderly couple who don't want help , a landlord that evicted them because their rent wasn't paid ( as most landlords would do ) and a banking problem . Most of these comments are quick enough to diss the landlord but surely it's the bank that's at fault !!
What banking problem? There's nothing that says the couple have ever had a bank account so maybe that's the problem. However that's speculation on my part. As I prefer dealing with facts perhaps the Echo could fill in the holes in the story.
[quote][p][bold]Ginny nz[/bold] wrote: I don't get this story . You have an elderly couple who don't want help , a landlord that evicted them because their rent wasn't paid ( as most landlords would do ) and a banking problem . Most of these comments are quick enough to diss the landlord but surely it's the bank that's at fault !![/p][/quote]What banking problem? There's nothing that says the couple have ever had a bank account so maybe that's the problem. However that's speculation on my part. As I prefer dealing with facts perhaps the Echo could fill in the holes in the story. breamoreboy
  • Score: -1

1:59am Thu 17 Jul 14

breamoreboy says...

Branksome Boy wrote:
I suspect they refused assistance because it was some dingy b&b in Boscombe or some shelter (full of drug addicts/drunks) where they would have to be split up! Councils know that they can offer" anything" as housing and that will fulfill their statutory obligation! I bet they were not offered a nice, cosy 1 bed council flat! Come on Ms Ansell tell what you did offer them prove me wrong!
Or if they haven't got any money they couldn't afford any accommodation? We could carry on guessing until the cows come home but I'd prefer to see some real answers.
[quote][p][bold]Branksome Boy[/bold] wrote: I suspect they refused assistance because it was some dingy b&b in Boscombe or some shelter (full of drug addicts/drunks) where they would have to be split up! Councils know that they can offer" anything" as housing and that will fulfill their statutory obligation! I bet they were not offered a nice, cosy 1 bed council flat! Come on Ms Ansell tell what you did offer them prove me wrong![/p][/quote]Or if they haven't got any money they couldn't afford any accommodation? We could carry on guessing until the cows come home but I'd prefer to see some real answers. breamoreboy
  • Score: -1

8:42pm Fri 18 Jul 14

stevobath says...

gerbil112 wrote:
harrypaye wrote:
It clearly states that they were evicted as they couldn't pay the rent after their pensions were stopped. What a sick load of toe rags local people are picking on them here. People of this age are entitled to their pension. If its not paid they fall into trouble. As to accepting help. The only thing you have when old is your pride. If they were approachd in the wrong way they would have rejected it. When you get old your body no longer works like it should and you need help with the simplest things. I know I am 73 myself. I cannot believe the attitude of these posters on here. It's two very old people on the street for goodness sake.
No, their passions were not stopped. The way the pensions were paid CHANGED, as it did for every pensioner. It had to be paid into a bank or Post Office account, no more pension books or queuing at the Post Office to collect cash weekly (with the risk of getting robbed of it). I'm sure the rental payments, even to a private landlord, could be done via Direct Debit with no chance of falling into arrears.
You still have to withdraw money from the Post Office, so it makes no difference as you still walk out of the PO with cash.
[quote][p][bold]gerbil112[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]harrypaye[/bold] wrote: It clearly states that they were evicted as they couldn't pay the rent after their pensions were stopped. What a sick load of toe rags local people are picking on them here. People of this age are entitled to their pension. If its not paid they fall into trouble. As to accepting help. The only thing you have when old is your pride. If they were approachd in the wrong way they would have rejected it. When you get old your body no longer works like it should and you need help with the simplest things. I know I am 73 myself. I cannot believe the attitude of these posters on here. It's two very old people on the street for goodness sake.[/p][/quote]No, their passions were not stopped. The way the pensions were paid CHANGED, as it did for every pensioner. It had to be paid into a bank or Post Office account, no more pension books or queuing at the Post Office to collect cash weekly (with the risk of getting robbed of it). I'm sure the rental payments, even to a private landlord, could be done via Direct Debit with no chance of falling into arrears.[/p][/quote]You still have to withdraw money from the Post Office, so it makes no difference as you still walk out of the PO with cash. stevobath
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5:08pm Mon 21 Jul 14

westbaywonder says...

Sandbanks citizens and council ,be proud!,meanwhile on the other side of town.
Sandbanks citizens and council ,be proud!,meanwhile on the other side of town. westbaywonder
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