Tobias Ellwood told Parliamentary rules can’t be waived over TA uniform

Bournemouth Echo: Tobias Ellwood Tobias Ellwood

AN MP was frustrated at being told he could not wear his Territorial Army uniform in Parliament on a day set aside to honour the reserve forces.

Tobias Ellwood wanted to take part in Uniform To Work Day, which encourages employers to support reservists in the run-up to Armed Forces Day on Saturday, June 28.

He was among members who wanted to wear their uniforms when the House of Commons was packed for Prime Minister's Questions.

But the Commons’ Speaker, John Bercow, said long-standing rules barred the wearing of uniforms in the chamber.

Mr Ellwood said the Speaker’s decision was “frustrating”.

“We have an opportunity to wear our uniforms with pride and say we’re reservists but also have a day job. This is happening up and down the country,” he said.

He added: “We were allowed to wear uniform around the building but not inside the chamber.

“It seems a small thing but I think if we’re encouraging employers to support the reservists, which is so important – because we require employers to be tolerant to reservists taking the time off for training or deployment – this day should be marked with pride.”

New Forest West MP Desmond Swayne, who is also in the TA and served in Iraq, said he had taken part in the day “as usual” by wearing uniform around Westminster.

He said he had never questioned the rule that forbids uniform or decorations in the chamber.

The Speaker's response

A statement from the Speaker’s spokesperson said: “The Speaker gave careful consideration to the question of whether the traditional prohibition on military uniforms in the chamber of the House of Commons might be waived for Wear Your Uniform to Work Day and consulted the deputy speakers.

“The Speaker fully recognises the important contribution of reservists to the defence of the realm and the wish to celebrate that contribution, but does not feel that the tradition of centuries should be set aside.

“In the 1939-45 war the rule was waived for MPs on active service – but in 1945 the House quite deliberately resumed its former practice. There are many and complex roots for the tradition.

“MPs are free to wear their uniforms in the precincts and in the division lobbies.”

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12:23pm Mon 30 Jun 14

In Absentia says...

Grow up Tobias, we can all see through your attempt at gratuitous self publicity.
Grow up Tobias, we can all see through your attempt at gratuitous self publicity. In Absentia
  • Score: 29

12:35pm Mon 30 Jun 14

muscliffman says...

Oh good, our local MP is evidently concentrating on the important things which matter to all his hard pressed constituents.

I suppose the idea of dressing up as a soldier whilst attending Parliament as our representative must have seemed like quite a rich boy hoot to someone who has never faced the stark realities of real life - civilian or services!

For once I am with the Speaker 100%.
Oh good, our local MP is evidently concentrating on the important things which matter to all his hard pressed constituents. I suppose the idea of dressing up as a soldier whilst attending Parliament as our representative must have seemed like quite a rich boy hoot to someone who has never faced the stark realities of real life - civilian or services! For once I am with the Speaker 100%. muscliffman
  • Score: 28

12:39pm Mon 30 Jun 14

pete woodley says...

Over the top comments against someone who has served his country
Over the top comments against someone who has served his country pete woodley
  • Score: -14

12:51pm Mon 30 Jun 14

burgerboy says...

Get the manservant to get out the dressing up box ..........
The prat wants to go in dressed as a cowboy next week.
Get the manservant to get out the dressing up box .......... The prat wants to go in dressed as a cowboy next week. burgerboy
  • Score: 7

12:52pm Mon 30 Jun 14

twynham says...

pete woodley wrote:
Over the top comments against someone who has served his country
But has not done so for years as an MP!
[quote][p][bold]pete woodley[/bold] wrote: Over the top comments against someone who has served his country[/p][/quote]But has not done so for years as an MP! twynham
  • Score: 8

1:30pm Mon 30 Jun 14

fedupwithjobsworths says...

Jobsworths
Jobsworths fedupwithjobsworths
  • Score: 0

1:34pm Mon 30 Jun 14

PokesdownMark says...

In the chamber they represent us not themselves. It is that simple.
In the chamber they represent us not themselves. It is that simple. PokesdownMark
  • Score: 18

3:55pm Mon 30 Jun 14

Bob49 says...

perhaps he could put on some colourful costume so that he could be spotted in the consticuency more easily
perhaps he could put on some colourful costume so that he could be spotted in the consticuency more easily Bob49
  • Score: 1

4:07pm Mon 30 Jun 14

rubberbandman5 says...

Well done Tobias, it was a sign of respect for those that had fallen in action and for their families. Disgusting comments are hurtful to those who came back considerably different from when they had left. I join with Pete Woodley in being mature enough to appreciate a noble act of compassion.
Well done Tobias, it was a sign of respect for those that had fallen in action and for their families. Disgusting comments are hurtful to those who came back considerably different from when they had left. I join with Pete Woodley in being mature enough to appreciate a noble act of compassion. rubberbandman5
  • Score: -7

5:03pm Mon 30 Jun 14

Noel. says...

muscliffman wrote:
Oh good, our local MP is evidently concentrating on the important things which matter to all his hard pressed constituents.

I suppose the idea of dressing up as a soldier whilst attending Parliament as our representative must have seemed like quite a rich boy hoot to someone who has never faced the stark realities of real life - civilian or services!

For once I am with the Speaker 100%.
Errr, Mr Ellwood did actually serve our country peace keeping (as much as you could) in the Balkans during the Yugoslavia break-up. He also lost a brother in the AL-Queda bombing in Bali.

I think he is someone who has faced the realities of life and seen the bad things it can deal out, so your comments are well out of order.

He may be a Tory but having met him I actually have a great deal of respect for him as a person.
[quote][p][bold]muscliffman[/bold] wrote: Oh good, our local MP is evidently concentrating on the important things which matter to all his hard pressed constituents. I suppose the idea of dressing up as a soldier whilst attending Parliament as our representative must have seemed like quite a rich boy hoot to someone who has never faced the stark realities of real life - civilian or services! For once I am with the Speaker 100%.[/p][/quote]Errr, Mr Ellwood did actually serve our country peace keeping (as much as you could) in the Balkans during the Yugoslavia break-up. He also lost a brother in the AL-Queda bombing in Bali. I think he is someone who has faced the realities of life and seen the bad things it can deal out, so your comments are well out of order. He may be a Tory but having met him I actually have a great deal of respect for him as a person. Noel.
  • Score: 5

6:11pm Mon 30 Jun 14

BIGTONE says...

pete woodley wrote:
Over the top comments against someone who has served his country
Served his country? In what?
I've done jury service.....So have I served my Country?

Being in the TA won't see you in conflict.
It's primarily training.

It does give you tax free earnings though,just like Parliament.
Being as he was unsuccessful in obtaining a post on the Defence Select committee,this is his best alternative.
[quote][p][bold]pete woodley[/bold] wrote: Over the top comments against someone who has served his country[/p][/quote]Served his country? In what? I've done jury service.....So have I served my Country? Being in the TA won't see you in conflict. It's primarily training. It does give you tax free earnings though,just like Parliament. Being as he was unsuccessful in obtaining a post on the Defence Select committee,this is his best alternative. BIGTONE
  • Score: 1

6:13pm Mon 30 Jun 14

Vortigern says...

In Absentia wrote:
Grow up Tobias, we can all see through your attempt at gratuitous self publicity.
And how long did you serve?
[quote][p][bold]In Absentia[/bold] wrote: Grow up Tobias, we can all see through your attempt at gratuitous self publicity.[/p][/quote]And how long did you serve? Vortigern
  • Score: -6

6:15pm Mon 30 Jun 14

Vortigern says...

PokesdownMark wrote:
In the chamber they represent us not themselves. It is that simple.
Tell that to the boys at Dunkirk and the Blitz.
[quote][p][bold]PokesdownMark[/bold] wrote: In the chamber they represent us not themselves. It is that simple.[/p][/quote]Tell that to the boys at Dunkirk and the Blitz. Vortigern
  • Score: -3

6:17pm Mon 30 Jun 14

BIGTONE says...

Noel. says...
Errr, Mr Ellwood did actually serve our country peace keeping (as much as you could) in the Balkans during the Yugoslavia break-up.

Making tea and coffee in the NAAFI more like.
There is no way on this planet the forces put TA 's in mortal combat/danger. They are back room boys/girls.
Noel. says... Errr, Mr Ellwood did actually serve our country peace keeping (as much as you could) in the Balkans during the Yugoslavia break-up. Making tea and coffee in the NAAFI more like. There is no way on this planet the forces put TA 's in mortal combat/danger. They are back room boys/girls. BIGTONE
  • Score: -5

6:51pm Mon 30 Jun 14

pete woodley says...

BIGTONE wrote:
pete woodley wrote:
Over the top comments against someone who has served his country
Served his country? In what?
I've done jury service.....So have I served my Country?

Being in the TA won't see you in conflict.
It's primarily training.

It does give you tax free earnings though,just like Parliament.
Being as he was unsuccessful in obtaining a post on the Defence Select committee,this is his best alternative.
I am sure some of the chaps who served in 14 Para TA,and 4/5 th Hampshires TA,would disagree.
[quote][p][bold]BIGTONE[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pete woodley[/bold] wrote: Over the top comments against someone who has served his country[/p][/quote]Served his country? In what? I've done jury service.....So have I served my Country? Being in the TA won't see you in conflict. It's primarily training. It does give you tax free earnings though,just like Parliament. Being as he was unsuccessful in obtaining a post on the Defence Select committee,this is his best alternative.[/p][/quote]I am sure some of the chaps who served in 14 Para TA,and 4/5 th Hampshires TA,would disagree. pete woodley
  • Score: 9

8:19pm Mon 30 Jun 14

breamoreboy says...

Vortigern wrote:
In Absentia wrote:
Grow up Tobias, we can all see through your attempt at gratuitous self publicity.
And how long did you serve?
In the services or in prison?
[quote][p][bold]Vortigern[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]In Absentia[/bold] wrote: Grow up Tobias, we can all see through your attempt at gratuitous self publicity.[/p][/quote]And how long did you serve?[/p][/quote]In the services or in prison? breamoreboy
  • Score: 0

8:22pm Mon 30 Jun 14

breamoreboy says...

BIGTONE wrote:
Noel. says...
Errr, Mr Ellwood did actually serve our country peace keeping (as much as you could) in the Balkans during the Yugoslavia break-up.

Making tea and coffee in the NAAFI more like.
There is no way on this planet the forces put TA 's in mortal combat/danger. They are back room boys/girls.
BIGTONE small brain.
[quote][p][bold]BIGTONE[/bold] wrote: Noel. says... Errr, Mr Ellwood did actually serve our country peace keeping (as much as you could) in the Balkans during the Yugoslavia break-up. Making tea and coffee in the NAAFI more like. There is no way on this planet the forces put TA 's in mortal combat/danger. They are back room boys/girls.[/p][/quote]BIGTONE small brain. breamoreboy
  • Score: 2

8:51pm Mon 30 Jun 14

Astrium says...

He should learn to respect the rules of the chamber. Any thing to get his name in the Echo, cheap publicity
He should learn to respect the rules of the chamber. Any thing to get his name in the Echo, cheap publicity Astrium
  • Score: 1

10:29pm Mon 30 Jun 14

HRH of Boscombe says...

Astrium wrote:
He should learn to respect the rules of the chamber. Any thing to get his name in the Echo, cheap publicity
Respect for the chamber???
.
Commons’ Speaker, John Bercow's wife is probably shacked up with Paddy about to invade Kings Park!
.
The chamber and everyone in it is a complete disgrace!
[quote][p][bold]Astrium[/bold] wrote: He should learn to respect the rules of the chamber. Any thing to get his name in the Echo, cheap publicity[/p][/quote]Respect for the chamber??? . Commons’ Speaker, John Bercow's wife is probably shacked up with Paddy about to invade Kings Park! . The chamber and everyone in it is a complete disgrace! HRH of Boscombe
  • Score: 4

11:48pm Mon 30 Jun 14

Astrium says...

HRH of Boscombe wrote:
Astrium wrote:
He should learn to respect the rules of the chamber. Any thing to get his name in the Echo, cheap publicity
Respect for the chamber???
.
Commons’ Speaker, John Bercow's wife is probably shacked up with Paddy about to invade Kings Park!
.
The chamber and everyone in it is a complete disgrace!
Well your royal highness why don't you behead them.
[quote][p][bold]HRH of Boscombe[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Astrium[/bold] wrote: He should learn to respect the rules of the chamber. Any thing to get his name in the Echo, cheap publicity[/p][/quote]Respect for the chamber??? . Commons’ Speaker, John Bercow's wife is probably shacked up with Paddy about to invade Kings Park! . The chamber and everyone in it is a complete disgrace![/p][/quote]Well your royal highness why don't you behead them. Astrium
  • Score: -1

3:22am Tue 1 Jul 14

billd766 says...

Vortigern wrote:
In Absentia wrote:
Grow up Tobias, we can all see through your attempt at gratuitous self publicity.
And how long did you serve?
5 years in the Royal Green Jackets. How long did YOU serve in the military?
[quote][p][bold]Vortigern[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]In Absentia[/bold] wrote: Grow up Tobias, we can all see through your attempt at gratuitous self publicity.[/p][/quote]And how long did you serve?[/p][/quote]5 years in the Royal Green Jackets. How long did YOU serve in the military? billd766
  • Score: -1

7:50am Tue 1 Jul 14

Marty Caine UKIP says...

I seem to recall Caroline Lucas wearing a 'No More Page Three' T-shirt at PMQ's, so basically silly T-shirts with slogans is fine in the house but not a military uniform or medals awarded to those who have put their lives on the line for this country? Anyone else see anything wrong with that ?
I seem to recall Caroline Lucas wearing a 'No More Page Three' T-shirt at PMQ's, so basically silly T-shirts with slogans is fine in the house but not a military uniform or medals awarded to those who have put their lives on the line for this country? Anyone else see anything wrong with that ? Marty Caine UKIP
  • Score: 1

7:52am Tue 1 Jul 14

Fingersonthem says...

BIGTONE wrote:
Noel. says...
Errr, Mr Ellwood did actually serve our country peace keeping (as much as you could) in the Balkans during the Yugoslavia break-up.

Making tea and coffee in the NAAFI more like.
There is no way on this planet the forces put TA 's in mortal combat/danger. They are back room boys/girls.
The Naafi is a civilian organisation therefore a serving person would not be working in there .

I suggest you consult the records regarding some of the TA casualties in Afghanistan .

You Sir are a total fully blown big mouth idiot
[quote][p][bold]BIGTONE[/bold] wrote: Noel. says... Errr, Mr Ellwood did actually serve our country peace keeping (as much as you could) in the Balkans during the Yugoslavia break-up. Making tea and coffee in the NAAFI more like. There is no way on this planet the forces put TA 's in mortal combat/danger. They are back room boys/girls.[/p][/quote]The Naafi is a civilian organisation therefore a serving person would not be working in there . I suggest you consult the records regarding some of the TA casualties in Afghanistan . You Sir are a total fully blown big mouth idiot Fingersonthem
  • Score: 7

8:00am Tue 1 Jul 14

BIGTONE says...

Fingersonthem wrote:
BIGTONE wrote:
Noel. says...
Errr, Mr Ellwood did actually serve our country peace keeping (as much as you could) in the Balkans during the Yugoslavia break-up.

Making tea and coffee in the NAAFI more like.
There is no way on this planet the forces put TA 's in mortal combat/danger. They are back room boys/girls.
The Naafi is a civilian organisation therefore a serving person would not be working in there .

I suggest you consult the records regarding some of the TA casualties in Afghanistan .

You Sir are a total fully blown big mouth idiot
They are tea and coffee makers.
[quote][p][bold]Fingersonthem[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BIGTONE[/bold] wrote: Noel. says... Errr, Mr Ellwood did actually serve our country peace keeping (as much as you could) in the Balkans during the Yugoslavia break-up. Making tea and coffee in the NAAFI more like. There is no way on this planet the forces put TA 's in mortal combat/danger. They are back room boys/girls.[/p][/quote]The Naafi is a civilian organisation therefore a serving person would not be working in there . I suggest you consult the records regarding some of the TA casualties in Afghanistan . You Sir are a total fully blown big mouth idiot[/p][/quote]They are tea and coffee makers. BIGTONE
  • Score: 0

9:28am Tue 1 Jul 14

TheDistrict says...

BIGTONE, Muscliffman, and others who commented for the decision made by the Speaker of the House. I would say none of you have served in the Armed Forces, or sent on active service. Myself, and many others on the Echo pages have done just that, whether it is the Northern Ireland, Falklands, Lebanon, Iraq, Afghanistan and other theatres of conflicts.

It is about time the House dropped these draconian dinosaur rulings that were set up in the reign of King Charles. This is the embarrassment, knowing that our country accepts such rulings, is it not time that the UK was brought up to date and the 21st century.

The House can quite easily despatch our servicemen and women to Afghanistan, etc, without problems, yet find it in themselves to prefer 400+ years of ancient ruling, than to support in full our servicemen and women, whether regular or reservists. As for the MPs, their place of work is the House, so let them wear the uniform as do others in other places of work.
BIGTONE, Muscliffman, and others who commented for the decision made by the Speaker of the House. I would say none of you have served in the Armed Forces, or sent on active service. Myself, and many others on the Echo pages have done just that, whether it is the Northern Ireland, Falklands, Lebanon, Iraq, Afghanistan and other theatres of conflicts. It is about time the House dropped these draconian dinosaur rulings that were set up in the reign of King Charles. This is the embarrassment, knowing that our country accepts such rulings, is it not time that the UK was brought up to date and the 21st century. The House can quite easily despatch our servicemen and women to Afghanistan, etc, without problems, yet find it in themselves to prefer 400+ years of ancient ruling, than to support in full our servicemen and women, whether regular or reservists. As for the MPs, their place of work is the House, so let them wear the uniform as do others in other places of work. TheDistrict
  • Score: 4

9:50am Tue 1 Jul 14

pete woodley says...

The District.As twice a regular and two spells in TA,i welcome your comment,which you have stated very well.All who have served, deserve acknowledgement not just those who did active service however.If Carolyne Lucas can wear a t shirt,that shows the rule is stupid.
The District.As twice a regular and two spells in TA,i welcome your comment,which you have stated very well.All who have served, deserve acknowledgement not just those who did active service however.If Carolyne Lucas can wear a t shirt,that shows the rule is stupid. pete woodley
  • Score: 4

5:14pm Tue 1 Jul 14

eddieafcb says...

BIGTONE you are a complete troll. You haven't got a clue what you are talking about. Your comments are disrespectful and offensive. Saying that,I wouldn't imagine that you would be so BIG if we were having a face to face discussion.
BIGTONE you are a complete troll. You haven't got a clue what you are talking about. Your comments are disrespectful and offensive. Saying that,I wouldn't imagine that you would be so BIG if we were having a face to face discussion. eddieafcb
  • Score: 0

6:21pm Tue 1 Jul 14

rubberbandman5 says...

I'm with you Breamoreboy, we normally disagree but on this occasion we are all disgusted by gobby Bigtone and his band of simpletons knocking soldiers who may or may not be TA. What does it matter, the wearing of uniforms at Westminster was to raise awareness and collect donations from the public for the many worthy charities who try their upmost to repair "broken" soldiers. Please show some respect for their families and friends!
I'm with you Breamoreboy, we normally disagree but on this occasion we are all disgusted by gobby Bigtone and his band of simpletons knocking soldiers who may or may not be TA. What does it matter, the wearing of uniforms at Westminster was to raise awareness and collect donations from the public for the many worthy charities who try their upmost to repair "broken" soldiers. Please show some respect for their families and friends! rubberbandman5
  • Score: 4

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