Parents fury as Bishop of Winchester students sent home in row over footwear

Bournemouth Echo: Darren Sheldon and his daughters Courtney and Shannon Darren Sheldon and his daughters Courtney and Shannon

ANGRY parents had a meeting with a Bournemouth headmaster yesterday after more than a dozen pupils were sent home for breaching uniform regulations.

Students without the correct uniform were ordered to go home from the Bishop of Winchester Academy when they arrived for lessons yesterday morning.

Headmaster Paul McKeown said a total of 15 students were turned away at the gates following a ‘routine inspection’ by staff.

The majority returned to the school in correct uniform a short time later, Mr McKeown said.

Mr McKeown, who has been headmaster at the school for the past eight years, said the academy is “consistent” in dealing with students who do not arrive in correct school uniform.

He said: “Students not wearing the uniform or refusing to wear the uniform in the correct way will be sent home to change.

“We do inspections around once a week,” he added.

Mr McKeown said parents were notified if their children were sent home by text message and parents of Year 7 and 8 students sent home were telephoned before the student left the school.

He added: “We are setting the standards for this school and we are also preparing our children for the world of work.

“They are not going to go into the world of law or medicine or be leaders in industry wearing trainers or skinny trousers, they will be expected to dress smartly.”

But the crackdown prompted anger from many parents, some of who claim their children were left wandering the streets with no money for bus fares and no way of contacting their families.

Emma Lester said her daughter, Renee Carroll, 14 and in Year 10, was sent home.

She said: “She has been wearing shoes exactly like the ones she had on for nearly four years with no problems. We live in Christchurch and they didn't care how she was going to get home.

“What is more important, a pair of shoes or the welfare of a child? Renee is supposed to be doing an English exam.”

Miss Lester claims she was not made aware that her daughter had been sent home from school until she received a text from the school at 12.40pm.

Samanda Watt, whose 14-year-old daughter was ordered off the premises, said: “I came home from doing the school run and she and her friends were sitting on the pavement revising. There were also crowds of them walking along Castle Lane.”

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5:11am Fri 27 Jun 14

Bonkeydollocks says...

Good on the school I say and also for 100% sticking to their policy. Hopefully this tough stance will mean all pupils consistently turn up in the correct uniform and their whining parents ensure they are.
Good on the school I say and also for 100% sticking to their policy. Hopefully this tough stance will mean all pupils consistently turn up in the correct uniform and their whining parents ensure they are. Bonkeydollocks
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5:25am Fri 27 Jun 14

crystal-coast says...

It's ridiculous! It's a pair of shoes and by the picture they are similar to what's lot of people wear in the work world. Ok I understand if they come in with trainers etc but the head teacher shouldn't of just sent them home. They should of waited to hear back from the parents. If I heard my child had been sent home and I received a text I would be fuming. They have a duty of care to these children.
It's ridiculous! It's a pair of shoes and by the picture they are similar to what's lot of people wear in the work world. Ok I understand if they come in with trainers etc but the head teacher shouldn't of just sent them home. They should of waited to hear back from the parents. If I heard my child had been sent home and I received a text I would be fuming. They have a duty of care to these children. crystal-coast
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6:07am Fri 27 Jun 14

retry69 says...

Can see where the girls get the grumpy looks from,but where are the folded arms ?
Can see where the girls get the grumpy looks from,but where are the folded arms ? retry69
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6:16am Fri 27 Jun 14

vicjoaid says...

They did the same in 2010, I agree with the school. When I was at school we had a strict uniform policy and we're sent home if it was wrong. Parents should ensure that children go correctly dressed.
They did the same in 2010, I agree with the school. When I was at school we had a strict uniform policy and we're sent home if it was wrong. Parents should ensure that children go correctly dressed. vicjoaid
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6:21am Fri 27 Jun 14

Bournemouth100 says...

Here's a thought.....abide by the rules next time.
Here's a thought.....abide by the rules next time. Bournemouth100
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6:43am Fri 27 Jun 14

user_name says...

love the parents comment 'I came home from doing the school run and she and her friends were sitting on the pavement revising'. Is that really true, or just put in to make her sound like a perfect committed student that has been wronged?
love the parents comment 'I came home from doing the school run and she and her friends were sitting on the pavement revising'. Is that really true, or just put in to make her sound like a perfect committed student that has been wronged? user_name
  • Score: 170

6:59am Fri 27 Jun 14

BIGTONE says...

vicjoaid wrote:
They did the same in 2010, I agree with the school. When I was at school we had a strict uniform policy and we're sent home if it was wrong. Parents should ensure that children go correctly dressed.
It's also called discipline.
If parents fail in this then clearly the school step in and do it for them.
[quote][p][bold]vicjoaid[/bold] wrote: They did the same in 2010, I agree with the school. When I was at school we had a strict uniform policy and we're sent home if it was wrong. Parents should ensure that children go correctly dressed.[/p][/quote]It's also called discipline. If parents fail in this then clearly the school step in and do it for them. BIGTONE
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7:08am Fri 27 Jun 14

Lord Spring says...

vicjoaid wrote:
They did the same in 2010, I agree with the school. When I was at school we had a strict uniform policy and we're sent home if it was wrong. Parents should ensure that children go correctly dressed.
We were not allowed Windsor knots in our ties.
[quote][p][bold]vicjoaid[/bold] wrote: They did the same in 2010, I agree with the school. When I was at school we had a strict uniform policy and we're sent home if it was wrong. Parents should ensure that children go correctly dressed.[/p][/quote]We were not allowed Windsor knots in our ties. Lord Spring
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7:11am Fri 27 Jun 14

Baysider says...

So, a few kids getting sent home to change into their uniform now counts a news does it? Wow, just how demoralising for the reporters that they're being asked to produce this tripe rather than go out and develop proper stories.
So, a few kids getting sent home to change into their uniform now counts a news does it? Wow, just how demoralising for the reporters that they're being asked to produce this tripe rather than go out and develop proper stories. Baysider
  • Score: 78

7:17am Fri 27 Jun 14

we-shall-see says...

I've no sympathy whatsoever for the kids or their parents - both know the rules regarding suitable uniform and shoes - yet go out to buy something they know would not be acceptable - and think they can get away with it.

The parents need to grow up more than the kids do in this case. Buy suitable shoes next time and your kids won't get sent home! It's not rocket science is it!!
I've no sympathy whatsoever for the kids or their parents - both know the rules regarding suitable uniform and shoes - yet go out to buy something they know would not be acceptable - and think they can get away with it. The parents need to grow up more than the kids do in this case. Buy suitable shoes next time and your kids won't get sent home! It's not rocket science is it!! we-shall-see
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7:19am Fri 27 Jun 14

dvdr says...

Clearly there are some very thick parents with children at this school, and one can only be sorry for their children. Not because they were sent home to get the correct uniform, but because they cannot choose their parents. The school may try to prepare their pupils for life when they leave school, but sadly there are parents who cannot see that compliance with simple well-declared rules matters. When the children are unable to hold down a job because they do not do as they are told it is too late. The school is trying to instill discipline, and should be supported, not thwarted.
Clearly there are some very thick parents with children at this school, and one can only be sorry for their children. Not because they were sent home to get the correct uniform, but because they cannot choose their parents. The school may try to prepare their pupils for life when they leave school, but sadly there are parents who cannot see that compliance with simple well-declared rules matters. When the children are unable to hold down a job because they do not do as they are told it is too late. The school is trying to instill discipline, and should be supported, not thwarted. dvdr
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7:20am Fri 27 Jun 14

Sir Retry69 says...

Lord Spring wrote:
vicjoaid wrote:
They did the same in 2010, I agree with the school. When I was at school we had a strict uniform policy and we're sent home if it was wrong. Parents should ensure that children go correctly dressed.
We were not allowed Windsor knots in our ties.
It took nearly a week of tuition from my dad to teach me how to tie a Windsor knot.
[quote][p][bold]Lord Spring[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]vicjoaid[/bold] wrote: They did the same in 2010, I agree with the school. When I was at school we had a strict uniform policy and we're sent home if it was wrong. Parents should ensure that children go correctly dressed.[/p][/quote]We were not allowed Windsor knots in our ties.[/p][/quote]It took nearly a week of tuition from my dad to teach me how to tie a Windsor knot. Sir Retry69
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7:26am Fri 27 Jun 14

curryandstella says...

Could not get in touch with parents?? If like my daughter, the phone is usually glued to their hands. More like they wanted a day off.
Could not get in touch with parents?? If like my daughter, the phone is usually glued to their hands. More like they wanted a day off. curryandstella
  • Score: 109

7:28am Fri 27 Jun 14

peace77 says...

Love all the comments from small minded people..shoes are shoes education is far more important than shoes. And telling people to grow up well for starters commenting on a mans choice of clothes is a bit odd probably someone who has a grudge as mentioning his name and second of all moaning it's not news well clearly it is otherwise you would stick your nose in it. Your all a bunch of critical idiots who always see negative and drama go get a life maybe get some running shoes and do one
Love all the comments from small minded people..shoes are shoes education is far more important than shoes. And telling people to grow up well for starters commenting on a mans choice of clothes is a bit odd probably someone who has a grudge as mentioning his name and second of all moaning it's not news well clearly it is otherwise you would stick your nose in it. Your all a bunch of critical idiots who always see negative and drama go get a life maybe get some running shoes and do one peace77
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7:32am Fri 27 Jun 14

peace77 says...

curryandstella wrote:
Could not get in touch with parents?? If like my daughter, the phone is usually glued to their hands. More like they wanted a day off.
Proud your daughter has her phone glued to her hands are you id say phones are more of an issue than shoes so I suggest get your facts right. Shoes do not stop pupils working but mobile phones do
[quote][p][bold]curryandstella[/bold] wrote: Could not get in touch with parents?? If like my daughter, the phone is usually glued to their hands. More like they wanted a day off.[/p][/quote]Proud your daughter has her phone glued to her hands are you id say phones are more of an issue than shoes so I suggest get your facts right. Shoes do not stop pupils working but mobile phones do peace77
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7:34am Fri 27 Jun 14

peace77 says...

user_name wrote:
love the parents comment 'I came home from doing the school run and she and her friends were sitting on the pavement revising'. Is that really true, or just put in to make her sound like a perfect committed student that has been wronged?
Negative people were not all judgemental like you lot on here
[quote][p][bold]user_name[/bold] wrote: love the parents comment 'I came home from doing the school run and she and her friends were sitting on the pavement revising'. Is that really true, or just put in to make her sound like a perfect committed student that has been wronged?[/p][/quote]Negative people were not all judgemental like you lot on here peace77
  • Score: -80

7:34am Fri 27 Jun 14

Villz says...

Good on you headteacher! The same kids are probably out wandering streets in Bournemouth town centre on Saturday nights without their Mummies and Daddies- they cope then so can cope getting themselves home on a weekday morning
Good on you headteacher! The same kids are probably out wandering streets in Bournemouth town centre on Saturday nights without their Mummies and Daddies- they cope then so can cope getting themselves home on a weekday morning Villz
  • Score: 134

7:36am Fri 27 Jun 14

peace77 says...

Baysider wrote:
kalebmoledirt wrote:
Baysider wrote:
So, a few kids getting sent home to change into their uniform now counts a news does it? Wow, just how demoralising for the reporters that they're being asked to produce this tripe rather than go out and develop proper stories.
This is awful 2 reporters And they failed to report that Darren had splashed out on a new woolly the girls have only 1shoe each, no wonder they look bogged off
I assumed they were each balancing on one leg for the photo but you may be right.
Wow picking on two girls maybe you should be in the news abit worrying you feel the need to make these two girls look stupid so there you go bully's if u have kids I feel sorry for them with your attitudes
[quote][p][bold]Baysider[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kalebmoledirt[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baysider[/bold] wrote: So, a few kids getting sent home to change into their uniform now counts a news does it? Wow, just how demoralising for the reporters that they're being asked to produce this tripe rather than go out and develop proper stories.[/p][/quote]This is awful 2 reporters And they failed to report that Darren had splashed out on a new woolly the girls have only 1shoe each, no wonder they look bogged off[/p][/quote]I assumed they were each balancing on one leg for the photo but you may be right.[/p][/quote]Wow picking on two girls maybe you should be in the news abit worrying you feel the need to make these two girls look stupid so there you go bully's if u have kids I feel sorry for them with your attitudes peace77
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7:38am Fri 27 Jun 14

peace77 says...

Villz wrote:
Good on you headteacher! The same kids are probably out wandering streets in Bournemouth town centre on Saturday nights without their Mummies and Daddies- they cope then so can cope getting themselves home on a weekday morning
What the hell they went to school isn't that good enough it was the school who sent them home so how does this make these children in the wrong and must be ones wondering around town go get a life saddo maybe you should go into town and live a little instead of being a total pratt
[quote][p][bold]Villz[/bold] wrote: Good on you headteacher! The same kids are probably out wandering streets in Bournemouth town centre on Saturday nights without their Mummies and Daddies- they cope then so can cope getting themselves home on a weekday morning[/p][/quote]What the hell they went to school isn't that good enough it was the school who sent them home so how does this make these children in the wrong and must be ones wondering around town go get a life saddo maybe you should go into town and live a little instead of being a total pratt peace77
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7:46am Fri 27 Jun 14

Marty Caine UKIP says...

crystal-coast wrote:
It's ridiculous! It's a pair of shoes and by the picture they are similar to what's lot of people wear in the work world. Ok I understand if they come in with trainers etc but the head teacher shouldn't of just sent them home. They should of waited to hear back from the parents. If I heard my child had been sent home and I received a text I would be fuming. They have a duty of care to these children.
Wow -16 for making a true point, schools do have a duty of care and if you actually read the article fully, it clearly states that they were turning children away at the gate and one parent did not receive any message until 12:40. That would be some 4 hours after they were sent home. I wonder if the headmaster would like to explain that one. When a parent sends their child to school they expect that school to put their safety first and foremost, this certainly wasn't the case here and that headmaster should be ashamed of himself. If you cannot speak directly to the parents then they remain your responsibility until school finishes, so if they have broken any rules you simply put them in exclusion before putting them out on the streets.
[quote][p][bold]crystal-coast[/bold] wrote: It's ridiculous! It's a pair of shoes and by the picture they are similar to what's lot of people wear in the work world. Ok I understand if they come in with trainers etc but the head teacher shouldn't of just sent them home. They should of waited to hear back from the parents. If I heard my child had been sent home and I received a text I would be fuming. They have a duty of care to these children.[/p][/quote]Wow -16 for making a true point, schools do have a duty of care and if you actually read the article fully, it clearly states that they were turning children away at the gate and one parent did not receive any message until 12:40. That would be some 4 hours after they were sent home. I wonder if the headmaster would like to explain that one. When a parent sends their child to school they expect that school to put their safety first and foremost, this certainly wasn't the case here and that headmaster should be ashamed of himself. If you cannot speak directly to the parents then they remain your responsibility until school finishes, so if they have broken any rules you simply put them in exclusion before putting them out on the streets. Marty Caine UKIP
  • Score: -59

7:50am Fri 27 Jun 14

billy bumble says...

crystal-coast wrote:
It's ridiculous! It's a pair of shoes and by the picture they are similar to what's lot of people wear in the work world. Ok I understand if they come in with trainers etc but the head teacher shouldn't of just sent them home. They should of waited to hear back from the parents. If I heard my child had been sent home and I received a text I would be fuming. They have a duty of care to these children.
The school does indeed have a duty of care to the children

The duty is to educate to take up a useful and law abiding role in life

One of the ways that schools do this is to instil discipline in the pupil

Clearly the school you went to failed you
[quote][p][bold]crystal-coast[/bold] wrote: It's ridiculous! It's a pair of shoes and by the picture they are similar to what's lot of people wear in the work world. Ok I understand if they come in with trainers etc but the head teacher shouldn't of just sent them home. They should of waited to hear back from the parents. If I heard my child had been sent home and I received a text I would be fuming. They have a duty of care to these children.[/p][/quote]The school does indeed have a duty of care to the children The duty is to educate to take up a useful and law abiding role in life One of the ways that schools do this is to instil discipline in the pupil Clearly the school you went to failed you billy bumble
  • Score: 112

7:50am Fri 27 Jun 14

misplacedspaniard says...

peace77 wrote:
Villz wrote:
Good on you headteacher! The same kids are probably out wandering streets in Bournemouth town centre on Saturday nights without their Mummies and Daddies- they cope then so can cope getting themselves home on a weekday morning
What the hell they went to school isn't that good enough it was the school who sent them home so how does this make these children in the wrong and must be ones wondering around town go get a life saddo maybe you should go into town and live a little instead of being a total pratt
Omg where are the full stops???! I'm running out of breath reading this.....
[quote][p][bold]peace77[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Villz[/bold] wrote: Good on you headteacher! The same kids are probably out wandering streets in Bournemouth town centre on Saturday nights without their Mummies and Daddies- they cope then so can cope getting themselves home on a weekday morning[/p][/quote]What the hell they went to school isn't that good enough it was the school who sent them home so how does this make these children in the wrong and must be ones wondering around town go get a life saddo maybe you should go into town and live a little instead of being a total pratt[/p][/quote]Omg where are the full stops???! I'm running out of breath reading this..... misplacedspaniard
  • Score: 68

7:51am Fri 27 Jun 14

peace77 says...

I find this all totally disgusting. These pupils have turned up to school to be educated and because they do not have leather shoes on as this is the true story but the paper like to leave these bits out to cause all the rats to come out and demoralise people. I feel as long as the shoes are the correct colour and have no heels etc and look suitable then I believe the pupils have a right to learn and should be allowed to stay in the school. The parents of many of these children were working another bit missed out by the echo so it was hard to contact them not like all the comments blaming the parents. So a child attends school there parents are at work and oh I know let's blame the parents!! I blame the school. These children come home with missing pe kits missing stationary etc if we didn't send the children to school we would be fined. Mobile phones are allowed in school and lessons I blame the school for this surely these phones are far more an issue than shoes I may be wrong but I am educated enough to know shoes are not the real issues here. Well done to the echo for missing loads of info out
I find this all totally disgusting. These pupils have turned up to school to be educated and because they do not have leather shoes on as this is the true story but the paper like to leave these bits out to cause all the rats to come out and demoralise people. I feel as long as the shoes are the correct colour and have no heels etc and look suitable then I believe the pupils have a right to learn and should be allowed to stay in the school. The parents of many of these children were working another bit missed out by the echo so it was hard to contact them not like all the comments blaming the parents. So a child attends school there parents are at work and oh I know let's blame the parents!! I blame the school. These children come home with missing pe kits missing stationary etc if we didn't send the children to school we would be fined. Mobile phones are allowed in school and lessons I blame the school for this surely these phones are far more an issue than shoes I may be wrong but I am educated enough to know shoes are not the real issues here. Well done to the echo for missing loads of info out peace77
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7:53am Fri 27 Jun 14

misplacedspaniard says...

billy bumble wrote:
crystal-coast wrote:
It's ridiculous! It's a pair of shoes and by the picture they are similar to what's lot of people wear in the work world. Ok I understand if they come in with trainers etc but the head teacher shouldn't of just sent them home. They should of waited to hear back from the parents. If I heard my child had been sent home and I received a text I would be fuming. They have a duty of care to these children.
The school does indeed have a duty of care to the children

The duty is to educate to take up a useful and law abiding role in life

One of the ways that schools do this is to instil discipline in the pupil

Clearly the school you went to failed you
Clearly the school you went to failed YOU. Your grammar is appalling!! I'm sure you are a nice bloke/lady but please revise the use of capitals and full stops.
[quote][p][bold]billy bumble[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]crystal-coast[/bold] wrote: It's ridiculous! It's a pair of shoes and by the picture they are similar to what's lot of people wear in the work world. Ok I understand if they come in with trainers etc but the head teacher shouldn't of just sent them home. They should of waited to hear back from the parents. If I heard my child had been sent home and I received a text I would be fuming. They have a duty of care to these children.[/p][/quote]The school does indeed have a duty of care to the children The duty is to educate to take up a useful and law abiding role in life One of the ways that schools do this is to instil discipline in the pupil Clearly the school you went to failed you[/p][/quote]Clearly the school you went to failed YOU. Your grammar is appalling!! I'm sure you are a nice bloke/lady but please revise the use of capitals and full stops. misplacedspaniard
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7:56am Fri 27 Jun 14

kalebmoledirt says...

peace77 wrote:
kalebmoledirt wrote:
Darren if your going to go out and have your pic taken,get your wife to dress you , nasty wooly
Oh someone so mature here atleast he has a wife and atleast he's there with his girls get a life freak
Peace 77 sorry your having a bad day ,relax.Making personnel remark doesn't help .it brings attention to your bad grammar now write something nice a little poem may help you mmmmmmnnnnnnnnn peace
[quote][p][bold]peace77[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kalebmoledirt[/bold] wrote: Darren if your going to go out and have your pic taken,get your wife to dress you , nasty wooly[/p][/quote]Oh someone so mature here atleast he has a wife and atleast he's there with his girls get a life freak[/p][/quote]Peace 77 sorry your having a bad day ,relax.Making personnel remark doesn't help .it brings attention to your bad grammar now write something nice a little poem may help you mmmmmmnnnnnnnnn peace kalebmoledirt
  • Score: 22

7:58am Fri 27 Jun 14

echor23 says...

Whilst I support the head in doing uniform checks and disciplining students without the correct unifrom as he is evidently trying to promote a healthy and good ethos within the school info find it quite barbaric that children were sent home alone to change!
They should have all had their parents called to come and collect them safely or be reprimanded by detention or otherwise.
What position would the head be in now should one of those children been knocked over, attacked or even kidnapped?
We leave our children at home under the safe knowledge that they are in that vicinity for the entire day, within those walls and safe from the outside world. Has this been my own child I would take this legally as had I found my own child wandering the streets with no bus fare I'm not sure I would feel comfortable with them entering the school again.
Whilst I support the head in doing uniform checks and disciplining students without the correct unifrom as he is evidently trying to promote a healthy and good ethos within the school info find it quite barbaric that children were sent home alone to change! They should have all had their parents called to come and collect them safely or be reprimanded by detention or otherwise. What position would the head be in now should one of those children been knocked over, attacked or even kidnapped? We leave our children at home under the safe knowledge that they are in that vicinity for the entire day, within those walls and safe from the outside world. Has this been my own child I would take this legally as had I found my own child wandering the streets with no bus fare I'm not sure I would feel comfortable with them entering the school again. echor23
  • Score: 11

7:59am Fri 27 Jun 14

mudefordguy says...

echor23 wrote:
Whilst I support the head in doing uniform checks and disciplining students without the correct unifrom as he is evidently trying to promote a healthy and good ethos within the school info find it quite barbaric that children were sent home alone to change!
They should have all had their parents called to come and collect them safely or be reprimanded by detention or otherwise.
What position would the head be in now should one of those children been knocked over, attacked or even kidnapped?
We leave our children at home under the safe knowledge that they are in that vicinity for the entire day, within those walls and safe from the outside world. Has this been my own child I would take this legally as had I found my own child wandering the streets with no bus fare I'm not sure I would feel comfortable with them entering the school again.
Parents would have been told the policy when sending their kids there. Don't like it? Think you know better? Send the kids somewhere else.
[quote][p][bold]echor23[/bold] wrote: Whilst I support the head in doing uniform checks and disciplining students without the correct unifrom as he is evidently trying to promote a healthy and good ethos within the school info find it quite barbaric that children were sent home alone to change! They should have all had their parents called to come and collect them safely or be reprimanded by detention or otherwise. What position would the head be in now should one of those children been knocked over, attacked or even kidnapped? We leave our children at home under the safe knowledge that they are in that vicinity for the entire day, within those walls and safe from the outside world. Has this been my own child I would take this legally as had I found my own child wandering the streets with no bus fare I'm not sure I would feel comfortable with them entering the school again.[/p][/quote]Parents would have been told the policy when sending their kids there. Don't like it? Think you know better? Send the kids somewhere else. mudefordguy
  • Score: 59

8:00am Fri 27 Jun 14

BournemouthDan says...

The most over subscribed school in Bournemouth. An inspirational head teacher who has brought order where there was chaos. How do you think he did that?

There are a long line of children whose parents are desperate to get their kids into the Bishop of Winchester. If you dont like the rules, go elsewhere.

The Echo runs a story about people not following known and expected standards and apparently its the schools fault.
The most over subscribed school in Bournemouth. An inspirational head teacher who has brought order where there was chaos. How do you think he did that? There are a long line of children whose parents are desperate to get their kids into the Bishop of Winchester. If you dont like the rules, go elsewhere. The Echo runs a story about people not following known and expected standards and apparently its the schools fault. BournemouthDan
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8:01am Fri 27 Jun 14

echor23 says...

echor23 wrote:
Whilst I support the head in doing uniform checks and disciplining students without the correct unifrom as he is evidently trying to promote a healthy and good ethos within the school info find it quite barbaric that children were sent home alone to change!
They should have all had their parents called to come and collect them safely or be reprimanded by detention or otherwise.
What position would the head be in now should one of those children been knocked over, attacked or even kidnapped?
We leave our children at home under the safe knowledge that they are in that vicinity for the entire day, within those walls and safe from the outside world. Has this been my own child I would take this legally as had I found my own child wandering the streets with no bus fare I'm not sure I would feel comfortable with them entering the school again.
I meant at school rather not at home!!!! ;)!
[quote][p][bold]echor23[/bold] wrote: Whilst I support the head in doing uniform checks and disciplining students without the correct unifrom as he is evidently trying to promote a healthy and good ethos within the school info find it quite barbaric that children were sent home alone to change! They should have all had their parents called to come and collect them safely or be reprimanded by detention or otherwise. What position would the head be in now should one of those children been knocked over, attacked or even kidnapped? We leave our children at home under the safe knowledge that they are in that vicinity for the entire day, within those walls and safe from the outside world. Has this been my own child I would take this legally as had I found my own child wandering the streets with no bus fare I'm not sure I would feel comfortable with them entering the school again.[/p][/quote]I meant at school rather not at home!!!! ;)! echor23
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8:10am Fri 27 Jun 14

Ginny nz says...

Good on the school . Rules are rules and kids have to learn some respect. If you let one get away with it then you're in trouble !! When I was at school I was taught to do as I was told and there's nothing wrong with me .
Good on the school . Rules are rules and kids have to learn some respect. If you let one get away with it then you're in trouble !! When I was at school I was taught to do as I was told and there's nothing wrong with me . Ginny nz
  • Score: 47

8:18am Fri 27 Jun 14

mad mrs says...

For all you idiots out there that want to jump in on this! The school decided to change the uniform policy only yesterday! with no warning, Yes it is a big deal when our kids are left roaming the streets while we work. so for the IDIOTS that want to comment about pictures taken. Find something better to do like look for a job!
For all you idiots out there that want to jump in on this! The school decided to change the uniform policy only yesterday! with no warning, Yes it is a big deal when our kids are left roaming the streets while we work. so for the IDIOTS that want to comment about pictures taken. Find something better to do like look for a job! mad mrs
  • Score: -61

8:23am Fri 27 Jun 14

mmmmmmm says...

Good stroppy faces,but where are the crossed arms?
Good stroppy faces,but where are the crossed arms? mmmmmmm
  • Score: 16

8:31am Fri 27 Jun 14

dorsettech says...

mad mrs wrote:
For all you idiots out there that want to jump in on this! The school decided to change the uniform policy only yesterday! with no warning, Yes it is a big deal when our kids are left roaming the streets while we work. so for the IDIOTS that want to comment about pictures taken. Find something better to do like look for a job!
Of course they did!
I have a job thanks and my kids have the correct shoes for school.
[quote][p][bold]mad mrs[/bold] wrote: For all you idiots out there that want to jump in on this! The school decided to change the uniform policy only yesterday! with no warning, Yes it is a big deal when our kids are left roaming the streets while we work. so for the IDIOTS that want to comment about pictures taken. Find something better to do like look for a job![/p][/quote]Of course they did! I have a job thanks and my kids have the correct shoes for school. dorsettech
  • Score: 60

8:33am Fri 27 Jun 14

podgie says...

Good on the school.
Oh and bye the way Daily Echo can you enforce a no Ugly grumpy picture policy
Thanks
Good on the school. Oh and bye the way Daily Echo can you enforce a no Ugly grumpy picture policy Thanks podgie
  • Score: 19

8:33am Fri 27 Jun 14

user_name says...

peace77 wrote:
Love all the comments from small minded people..shoes are shoes education is far more important than shoes. And telling people to grow up well for starters commenting on a mans choice of clothes is a bit odd probably someone who has a grudge as mentioning his name and second of all moaning it's not news well clearly it is otherwise you would stick your nose in it. Your all a bunch of critical idiots who always see negative and drama go get a life maybe get some running shoes and do one
Shoes are shoes but rules are rules. I consider small minded people to be the ones that act like school kids and resort to name calling when someone has a different opinion.
[quote][p][bold]peace77[/bold] wrote: Love all the comments from small minded people..shoes are shoes education is far more important than shoes. And telling people to grow up well for starters commenting on a mans choice of clothes is a bit odd probably someone who has a grudge as mentioning his name and second of all moaning it's not news well clearly it is otherwise you would stick your nose in it. Your all a bunch of critical idiots who always see negative and drama go get a life maybe get some running shoes and do one[/p][/quote]Shoes are shoes but rules are rules. I consider small minded people to be the ones that act like school kids and resort to name calling when someone has a different opinion. user_name
  • Score: 55

8:36am Fri 27 Jun 14

dorsettech says...

Marty Caine UKIP wrote:
crystal-coast wrote:
It's ridiculous! It's a pair of shoes and by the picture they are similar to what's lot of people wear in the work world. Ok I understand if they come in with trainers etc but the head teacher shouldn't of just sent them home. They should of waited to hear back from the parents. If I heard my child had been sent home and I received a text I would be fuming. They have a duty of care to these children.
Wow -16 for making a true point, schools do have a duty of care and if you actually read the article fully, it clearly states that they were turning children away at the gate and one parent did not receive any message until 12:40. That would be some 4 hours after they were sent home. I wonder if the headmaster would like to explain that one. When a parent sends their child to school they expect that school to put their safety first and foremost, this certainly wasn't the case here and that headmaster should be ashamed of himself. If you cannot speak directly to the parents then they remain your responsibility until school finishes, so if they have broken any rules you simply put them in exclusion before putting them out on the streets.
Oh how novel - a UKIP "representative" trying to be the voice of reason. It is an Academy. Do your homework.
[quote][p][bold]Marty Caine UKIP[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]crystal-coast[/bold] wrote: It's ridiculous! It's a pair of shoes and by the picture they are similar to what's lot of people wear in the work world. Ok I understand if they come in with trainers etc but the head teacher shouldn't of just sent them home. They should of waited to hear back from the parents. If I heard my child had been sent home and I received a text I would be fuming. They have a duty of care to these children.[/p][/quote]Wow -16 for making a true point, schools do have a duty of care and if you actually read the article fully, it clearly states that they were turning children away at the gate and one parent did not receive any message until 12:40. That would be some 4 hours after they were sent home. I wonder if the headmaster would like to explain that one. When a parent sends their child to school they expect that school to put their safety first and foremost, this certainly wasn't the case here and that headmaster should be ashamed of himself. If you cannot speak directly to the parents then they remain your responsibility until school finishes, so if they have broken any rules you simply put them in exclusion before putting them out on the streets.[/p][/quote]Oh how novel - a UKIP "representative" trying to be the voice of reason. It is an Academy. Do your homework. dorsettech
  • Score: 9

8:40am Fri 27 Jun 14

spooki says...

They shouldn't have been sent home like that but I like how it says the majority returned to school in the correct uniform. So they DID actually know what they were meant to wear but chose not to! Schools do seem to let things go for a while and let pupils wear something else then suddenly decide to uphold their rules.
Same happened when I went to Summerbee (as it was called then). Abide by the uniform or don't come in.
Oh and it's widely known that those flat 'pump' shoes are bad for your feet and posture.
They shouldn't have been sent home like that but I like how it says the majority returned to school in the correct uniform. So they DID actually know what they were meant to wear but chose not to! Schools do seem to let things go for a while and let pupils wear something else then suddenly decide to uphold their rules. Same happened when I went to Summerbee (as it was called then). Abide by the uniform or don't come in. Oh and it's widely known that those flat 'pump' shoes are bad for your feet and posture. spooki
  • Score: 37

8:41am Fri 27 Jun 14

spooki says...

Actually, looking at the picture again, I would have thought the little girls black nails were more the problem than the shoes.
Actually, looking at the picture again, I would have thought the little girls black nails were more the problem than the shoes. spooki
  • Score: 31

8:41am Fri 27 Jun 14

Townee says...

I often see young pupils from this school wandering around the streets during school hours and wonder what the school day hours are. Several in the road I live seem to come home anytime from 12.30 until 3.15 most days.
Why do all schools not have the same hours the same as we did, our hours were 9am until 4pm.
I often see young pupils from this school wandering around the streets during school hours and wonder what the school day hours are. Several in the road I live seem to come home anytime from 12.30 until 3.15 most days. Why do all schools not have the same hours the same as we did, our hours were 9am until 4pm. Townee
  • Score: 14

8:42am Fri 27 Jun 14

ProudVegan says...

Looks like one of the girls will be sent home for nail polish soon too!
Looks like one of the girls will be sent home for nail polish soon too! ProudVegan
  • Score: 30

8:43am Fri 27 Jun 14

mad mrs says...

dorsettech wrote:
mad mrs wrote:
For all you idiots out there that want to jump in on this! The school decided to change the uniform policy only yesterday! with no warning, Yes it is a big deal when our kids are left roaming the streets while we work. so for the IDIOTS that want to comment about pictures taken. Find something better to do like look for a job!
Of course they did!
I have a job thanks and my kids have the correct shoes for school.
well what's your problem then? move on goody tu shoes hahaa,
Oh and just for the record. Yes they did decide only yesterday that fabric shoes were no longer allowed! READ the news properly! A parent has said for the past 4 years its never been a problem! durrrrrr
[quote][p][bold]dorsettech[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mad mrs[/bold] wrote: For all you idiots out there that want to jump in on this! The school decided to change the uniform policy only yesterday! with no warning, Yes it is a big deal when our kids are left roaming the streets while we work. so for the IDIOTS that want to comment about pictures taken. Find something better to do like look for a job![/p][/quote]Of course they did! I have a job thanks and my kids have the correct shoes for school.[/p][/quote]well what's your problem then? move on goody tu shoes hahaa, Oh and just for the record. Yes they did decide only yesterday that fabric shoes were no longer allowed! READ the news properly! A parent has said for the past 4 years its never been a problem! durrrrrr mad mrs
  • Score: -43

8:45am Fri 27 Jun 14

Chris Hopper says...

THIS REPORT IS WRONG. THE HEADMASTER LIED BECAUSE IN THE LAST 4 YEARS NEVER HAD THEY HAD SUCH A ISSUE AND ADRESSED IT WITH "INSPECTION". NEVER HAPPEND.
THIS REPORT IS WRONG. THE HEADMASTER LIED BECAUSE IN THE LAST 4 YEARS NEVER HAD THEY HAD SUCH A ISSUE AND ADRESSED IT WITH "INSPECTION". NEVER HAPPEND. Chris Hopper
  • Score: -47

8:46am Fri 27 Jun 14

Chris Hopper says...

This article is false because never has the school inspected uniform before and suddenly that day they did.
This article is false because never has the school inspected uniform before and suddenly that day they did. Chris Hopper
  • Score: -35

8:48am Fri 27 Jun 14

Dave DLT says...

BournemouthDan wrote:
The most over subscribed school in Bournemouth. An inspirational head teacher who has brought order where there was chaos. How do you think he did that?

There are a long line of children whose parents are desperate to get their kids into the Bishop of Winchester. If you dont like the rules, go elsewhere.

The Echo runs a story about people not following known and expected standards and apparently its the schools fault.
Nail on the head, couldn't have put it better myself.
[quote][p][bold]BournemouthDan[/bold] wrote: The most over subscribed school in Bournemouth. An inspirational head teacher who has brought order where there was chaos. How do you think he did that? There are a long line of children whose parents are desperate to get their kids into the Bishop of Winchester. If you dont like the rules, go elsewhere. The Echo runs a story about people not following known and expected standards and apparently its the schools fault.[/p][/quote]Nail on the head, couldn't have put it better myself. Dave DLT
  • Score: 42

8:51am Fri 27 Jun 14

dorsettech says...

mad mrs wrote:
dorsettech wrote:
mad mrs wrote:
For all you idiots out there that want to jump in on this! The school decided to change the uniform policy only yesterday! with no warning, Yes it is a big deal when our kids are left roaming the streets while we work. so for the IDIOTS that want to comment about pictures taken. Find something better to do like look for a job!
Of course they did!
I have a job thanks and my kids have the correct shoes for school.
well what's your problem then? move on goody tu shoes hahaa,
Oh and just for the record. Yes they did decide only yesterday that fabric shoes were no longer allowed! READ the news properly! A parent has said for the past 4 years its never been a problem! durrrrrr
Durrrrr I don't have a problem thanks.
I buy my kids the correct uniform and they know to follow the rules. If that makes ME the idiot then I accept your durrrrrr
[quote][p][bold]mad mrs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dorsettech[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mad mrs[/bold] wrote: For all you idiots out there that want to jump in on this! The school decided to change the uniform policy only yesterday! with no warning, Yes it is a big deal when our kids are left roaming the streets while we work. so for the IDIOTS that want to comment about pictures taken. Find something better to do like look for a job![/p][/quote]Of course they did! I have a job thanks and my kids have the correct shoes for school.[/p][/quote]well what's your problem then? move on goody tu shoes hahaa, Oh and just for the record. Yes they did decide only yesterday that fabric shoes were no longer allowed! READ the news properly! A parent has said for the past 4 years its never been a problem! durrrrrr[/p][/quote]Durrrrr I don't have a problem thanks. I buy my kids the correct uniform and they know to follow the rules. If that makes ME the idiot then I accept your durrrrrr dorsettech
  • Score: 40

8:52am Fri 27 Jun 14

peace77 says...

Chris Hopper wrote:
This article is false because never has the school inspected uniform before and suddenly that day they did.
Listen you are right but the negative glory seekers on here have nothing better to do than pick on little girls and find a flaw in everyone's comments. Let these boring no hopers talk amongst themselves as they obviously attended school in the 1800's so we do need some compassion to them. The school decided yesterday to change the rules only those parents of children who attend here know this, all the other people can just make up crap to get a few likes as they need these likes to feel like they are wanted. I bet they are sitting awaiting a giro in there £2.99 primark pumps but behind there computers they pretend to be something else
[quote][p][bold]Chris Hopper[/bold] wrote: This article is false because never has the school inspected uniform before and suddenly that day they did.[/p][/quote]Listen you are right but the negative glory seekers on here have nothing better to do than pick on little girls and find a flaw in everyone's comments. Let these boring no hopers talk amongst themselves as they obviously attended school in the 1800's so we do need some compassion to them. The school decided yesterday to change the rules only those parents of children who attend here know this, all the other people can just make up crap to get a few likes as they need these likes to feel like they are wanted. I bet they are sitting awaiting a giro in there £2.99 primark pumps but behind there computers they pretend to be something else peace77
  • Score: -61

8:52am Fri 27 Jun 14

mad mrs says...

Chris Hopper wrote:
This article is false because never has the school inspected uniform before and suddenly that day they did.
They do random uniform checks when there having a bad day lol, But FABRIC SHOES have never been an issue up until yesterday. If they gave notice! then fair enough but they never and this is the point that most are missing here!
[quote][p][bold]Chris Hopper[/bold] wrote: This article is false because never has the school inspected uniform before and suddenly that day they did.[/p][/quote]They do random uniform checks when there having a bad day lol, But FABRIC SHOES have never been an issue up until yesterday. If they gave notice! then fair enough but they never and this is the point that most are missing here! mad mrs
  • Score: -22

8:57am Fri 27 Jun 14

dorsettech says...

peace77 wrote:
Chris Hopper wrote:
This article is false because never has the school inspected uniform before and suddenly that day they did.
Listen you are right but the negative glory seekers on here have nothing better to do than pick on little girls and find a flaw in everyone's comments. Let these boring no hopers talk amongst themselves as they obviously attended school in the 1800's so we do need some compassion to them. The school decided yesterday to change the rules only those parents of children who attend here know this, all the other people can just make up crap to get a few likes as they need these likes to feel like they are wanted. I bet they are sitting awaiting a giro in there £2.99 primark pumps but behind there computers they pretend to be something else
LOL!!!!
i refer you to the shoes displayed in the photo
[quote][p][bold]peace77[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chris Hopper[/bold] wrote: This article is false because never has the school inspected uniform before and suddenly that day they did.[/p][/quote]Listen you are right but the negative glory seekers on here have nothing better to do than pick on little girls and find a flaw in everyone's comments. Let these boring no hopers talk amongst themselves as they obviously attended school in the 1800's so we do need some compassion to them. The school decided yesterday to change the rules only those parents of children who attend here know this, all the other people can just make up crap to get a few likes as they need these likes to feel like they are wanted. I bet they are sitting awaiting a giro in there £2.99 primark pumps but behind there computers they pretend to be something else[/p][/quote]LOL!!!! i refer you to the shoes displayed in the photo dorsettech
  • Score: 26

8:59am Fri 27 Jun 14

mad mrs says...

dorsettech wrote:
mad mrs wrote:
dorsettech wrote:
mad mrs wrote:
For all you idiots out there that want to jump in on this! The school decided to change the uniform policy only yesterday! with no warning, Yes it is a big deal when our kids are left roaming the streets while we work. so for the IDIOTS that want to comment about pictures taken. Find something better to do like look for a job!
Of course they did!
I have a job thanks and my kids have the correct shoes for school.
well what's your problem then? move on goody tu shoes hahaa,
Oh and just for the record. Yes they did decide only yesterday that fabric shoes were no longer allowed! READ the news properly! A parent has said for the past 4 years its never been a problem! durrrrrr
Durrrrr I don't have a problem thanks.
I buy my kids the correct uniform and they know to follow the rules. If that makes ME the idiot then I accept your durrrrrr
well they would wouldn't they! and by the sounds of you the sunshine's out your back side.. So what! if your kids have the correct shoes and you work who cares.. jump back in your pram and drink your milk.
[quote][p][bold]dorsettech[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mad mrs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dorsettech[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mad mrs[/bold] wrote: For all you idiots out there that want to jump in on this! The school decided to change the uniform policy only yesterday! with no warning, Yes it is a big deal when our kids are left roaming the streets while we work. so for the IDIOTS that want to comment about pictures taken. Find something better to do like look for a job![/p][/quote]Of course they did! I have a job thanks and my kids have the correct shoes for school.[/p][/quote]well what's your problem then? move on goody tu shoes hahaa, Oh and just for the record. Yes they did decide only yesterday that fabric shoes were no longer allowed! READ the news properly! A parent has said for the past 4 years its never been a problem! durrrrrr[/p][/quote]Durrrrr I don't have a problem thanks. I buy my kids the correct uniform and they know to follow the rules. If that makes ME the idiot then I accept your durrrrrr[/p][/quote]well they would wouldn't they! and by the sounds of you the sunshine's out your back side.. So what! if your kids have the correct shoes and you work who cares.. jump back in your pram and drink your milk. mad mrs
  • Score: -47

9:06am Fri 27 Jun 14

dorsettech says...

mad mrs wrote:
dorsettech wrote:
mad mrs wrote:
dorsettech wrote:
mad mrs wrote:
For all you idiots out there that want to jump in on this! The school decided to change the uniform policy only yesterday! with no warning, Yes it is a big deal when our kids are left roaming the streets while we work. so for the IDIOTS that want to comment about pictures taken. Find something better to do like look for a job!
Of course they did!
I have a job thanks and my kids have the correct shoes for school.
well what's your problem then? move on goody tu shoes hahaa,
Oh and just for the record. Yes they did decide only yesterday that fabric shoes were no longer allowed! READ the news properly! A parent has said for the past 4 years its never been a problem! durrrrrr
Durrrrr I don't have a problem thanks.
I buy my kids the correct uniform and they know to follow the rules. If that makes ME the idiot then I accept your durrrrrr
well they would wouldn't they! and by the sounds of you the sunshine's out your back side.. So what! if your kids have the correct shoes and you work who cares.. jump back in your pram and drink your milk.
Are you for real?? I mean, what exactly did you just say??!!

Yes they would, wouldn't they? Why? Well I don't want my kids sat in an isolation room or being excluded or wandering the streets simply because I let them wear the wrong uniform. I'm not afraid of my kids like some parents appear to be.
[quote][p][bold]mad mrs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dorsettech[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mad mrs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dorsettech[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mad mrs[/bold] wrote: For all you idiots out there that want to jump in on this! The school decided to change the uniform policy only yesterday! with no warning, Yes it is a big deal when our kids are left roaming the streets while we work. so for the IDIOTS that want to comment about pictures taken. Find something better to do like look for a job![/p][/quote]Of course they did! I have a job thanks and my kids have the correct shoes for school.[/p][/quote]well what's your problem then? move on goody tu shoes hahaa, Oh and just for the record. Yes they did decide only yesterday that fabric shoes were no longer allowed! READ the news properly! A parent has said for the past 4 years its never been a problem! durrrrrr[/p][/quote]Durrrrr I don't have a problem thanks. I buy my kids the correct uniform and they know to follow the rules. If that makes ME the idiot then I accept your durrrrrr[/p][/quote]well they would wouldn't they! and by the sounds of you the sunshine's out your back side.. So what! if your kids have the correct shoes and you work who cares.. jump back in your pram and drink your milk.[/p][/quote]Are you for real?? I mean, what exactly did you just say??!! Yes they would, wouldn't they? Why? Well I don't want my kids sat in an isolation room or being excluded or wandering the streets simply because I let them wear the wrong uniform. I'm not afraid of my kids like some parents appear to be. dorsettech
  • Score: 38

9:12am Fri 27 Jun 14

Marty Caine UKIP says...

dorsettech wrote:
Marty Caine UKIP wrote:
crystal-coast wrote:
It's ridiculous! It's a pair of shoes and by the picture they are similar to what's lot of people wear in the work world. Ok I understand if they come in with trainers etc but the head teacher shouldn't of just sent them home. They should of waited to hear back from the parents. If I heard my child had been sent home and I received a text I would be fuming. They have a duty of care to these children.
Wow -16 for making a true point, schools do have a duty of care and if you actually read the article fully, it clearly states that they were turning children away at the gate and one parent did not receive any message until 12:40. That would be some 4 hours after they were sent home. I wonder if the headmaster would like to explain that one. When a parent sends their child to school they expect that school to put their safety first and foremost, this certainly wasn't the case here and that headmaster should be ashamed of himself. If you cannot speak directly to the parents then they remain your responsibility until school finishes, so if they have broken any rules you simply put them in exclusion before putting them out on the streets.
Oh how novel - a UKIP "representative
" trying to be the voice of reason. It is an Academy. Do your homework.
I do not need to do my homework, an academy is still governed by law. Head teachers must take account of their legal duty of care when sending a pupil home, that is the same law for every school be it an Academy or not.

It also clearly states in the article that "Headmaster Paul McKeown said a total of 15 students were turned away at the gates following a ‘routine inspection’ by staff." That is actually illegal because by law, only the headmaster has the right to exclude a pupil.

Maybe you and Paul McKeown need to do some homework.
[quote][p][bold]dorsettech[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Marty Caine UKIP[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]crystal-coast[/bold] wrote: It's ridiculous! It's a pair of shoes and by the picture they are similar to what's lot of people wear in the work world. Ok I understand if they come in with trainers etc but the head teacher shouldn't of just sent them home. They should of waited to hear back from the parents. If I heard my child had been sent home and I received a text I would be fuming. They have a duty of care to these children.[/p][/quote]Wow -16 for making a true point, schools do have a duty of care and if you actually read the article fully, it clearly states that they were turning children away at the gate and one parent did not receive any message until 12:40. That would be some 4 hours after they were sent home. I wonder if the headmaster would like to explain that one. When a parent sends their child to school they expect that school to put their safety first and foremost, this certainly wasn't the case here and that headmaster should be ashamed of himself. If you cannot speak directly to the parents then they remain your responsibility until school finishes, so if they have broken any rules you simply put them in exclusion before putting them out on the streets.[/p][/quote]Oh how novel - a UKIP "representative " trying to be the voice of reason. It is an Academy. Do your homework.[/p][/quote]I do not need to do my homework, an academy is still governed by law. Head teachers must take account of their legal duty of care when sending a pupil home, that is the same law for every school be it an Academy or not. It also clearly states in the article that "Headmaster Paul McKeown said a total of 15 students were turned away at the gates following a ‘routine inspection’ by staff." That is actually illegal because by law, only the headmaster has the right to exclude a pupil. Maybe you and Paul McKeown need to do some homework. Marty Caine UKIP
  • Score: -29

9:14am Fri 27 Jun 14

mad mrs says...

dorsettech wrote:
mad mrs wrote:
dorsettech wrote:
mad mrs wrote:
dorsettech wrote:
mad mrs wrote:
For all you idiots out there that want to jump in on this! The school decided to change the uniform policy only yesterday! with no warning, Yes it is a big deal when our kids are left roaming the streets while we work. so for the IDIOTS that want to comment about pictures taken. Find something better to do like look for a job!
Of course they did!
I have a job thanks and my kids have the correct shoes for school.
well what's your problem then? move on goody tu shoes hahaa,
Oh and just for the record. Yes they did decide only yesterday that fabric shoes were no longer allowed! READ the news properly! A parent has said for the past 4 years its never been a problem! durrrrrr
Durrrrr I don't have a problem thanks.
I buy my kids the correct uniform and they know to follow the rules. If that makes ME the idiot then I accept your durrrrrr
well they would wouldn't they! and by the sounds of you the sunshine's out your back side.. So what! if your kids have the correct shoes and you work who cares.. jump back in your pram and drink your milk.
Are you for real?? I mean, what exactly did you just say??!!

Yes they would, wouldn't they? Why? Well I don't want my kids sat in an isolation room or being excluded or wandering the streets simply because I let them wear the wrong uniform. I'm not afraid of my kids like some parents appear to be.
WHAT? WHICH PART DONT YOU GET???? The school decided only yesterday that they no longer wanted pupils to wear FABRIC SHOES!!! We didn't know until they got sent home! Do yourself a favour and run along to perfection class! Your making yourself look stupid now! ha
[quote][p][bold]dorsettech[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mad mrs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dorsettech[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mad mrs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dorsettech[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mad mrs[/bold] wrote: For all you idiots out there that want to jump in on this! The school decided to change the uniform policy only yesterday! with no warning, Yes it is a big deal when our kids are left roaming the streets while we work. so for the IDIOTS that want to comment about pictures taken. Find something better to do like look for a job![/p][/quote]Of course they did! I have a job thanks and my kids have the correct shoes for school.[/p][/quote]well what's your problem then? move on goody tu shoes hahaa, Oh and just for the record. Yes they did decide only yesterday that fabric shoes were no longer allowed! READ the news properly! A parent has said for the past 4 years its never been a problem! durrrrrr[/p][/quote]Durrrrr I don't have a problem thanks. I buy my kids the correct uniform and they know to follow the rules. If that makes ME the idiot then I accept your durrrrrr[/p][/quote]well they would wouldn't they! and by the sounds of you the sunshine's out your back side.. So what! if your kids have the correct shoes and you work who cares.. jump back in your pram and drink your milk.[/p][/quote]Are you for real?? I mean, what exactly did you just say??!! Yes they would, wouldn't they? Why? Well I don't want my kids sat in an isolation room or being excluded or wandering the streets simply because I let them wear the wrong uniform. I'm not afraid of my kids like some parents appear to be.[/p][/quote]WHAT? WHICH PART DONT YOU GET???? The school decided only yesterday that they no longer wanted pupils to wear FABRIC SHOES!!! We didn't know until they got sent home! Do yourself a favour and run along to perfection class! Your making yourself look stupid now! ha mad mrs
  • Score: -45

9:16am Fri 27 Jun 14

IgglePiggle321 says...

user_name wrote:
love the parents comment 'I came home from doing the school run and she and her friends were sitting on the pavement revising'. Is that really true, or just put in to make her sound like a perfect committed student that has been wronged?
I attend the bishop of Winchester academy, and was dismissed from school yesterday morning, I had a GCSE English controlled assessment to complete and revision to do for exams today. Me and 7 other pupils were sat outside of school for around 50 minutes revising. So yes, this is 'really true'
[quote][p][bold]user_name[/bold] wrote: love the parents comment 'I came home from doing the school run and she and her friends were sitting on the pavement revising'. Is that really true, or just put in to make her sound like a perfect committed student that has been wronged?[/p][/quote]I attend the bishop of Winchester academy, and was dismissed from school yesterday morning, I had a GCSE English controlled assessment to complete and revision to do for exams today. Me and 7 other pupils were sat outside of school for around 50 minutes revising. So yes, this is 'really true' IgglePiggle321
  • Score: 0

9:18am Fri 27 Jun 14

contric says...

couldnt someone have told the kids that the shoes were unacceptable now go inside the school and tomorrow come to school in the right footwear or is that solution to easy
couldnt someone have told the kids that the shoes were unacceptable now go inside the school and tomorrow come to school in the right footwear or is that solution to easy contric
  • Score: 12

9:20am Fri 27 Jun 14

BournemouthDan says...

Chris Hopper wrote:
This article is false because never has the school inspected uniform before and suddenly that day they did.
Chris, that is entirely wrong. With 2 children in the school and can confirm 100% that uniform inspections take place and that this isnt the first time children have been sent home.

The younger kids are help back and the parents called, the older kids parents are sent a text.

Not sure why people have such an issue with this. Everyone knows the uniform, my kids have never been turned away as we know what they expect.

As a parent I 100% agree with the head teachers stance.
[quote][p][bold]Chris Hopper[/bold] wrote: This article is false because never has the school inspected uniform before and suddenly that day they did.[/p][/quote]Chris, that is entirely wrong. With 2 children in the school and can confirm 100% that uniform inspections take place and that this isnt the first time children have been sent home. The younger kids are help back and the parents called, the older kids parents are sent a text. Not sure why people have such an issue with this. Everyone knows the uniform, my kids have never been turned away as we know what they expect. As a parent I 100% agree with the head teachers stance. BournemouthDan
  • Score: 58

9:20am Fri 27 Jun 14

BournemouthDan says...

contric wrote:
couldnt someone have told the kids that the shoes were unacceptable now go inside the school and tomorrow come to school in the right footwear or is that solution to easy
How many times do you allow them to flout the school uniform rules?
[quote][p][bold]contric[/bold] wrote: couldnt someone have told the kids that the shoes were unacceptable now go inside the school and tomorrow come to school in the right footwear or is that solution to easy[/p][/quote]How many times do you allow them to flout the school uniform rules? BournemouthDan
  • Score: 21

9:21am Fri 27 Jun 14

Dorset Logic says...

oh boo hoo, boo hoo hoo.

Some major first world problems here.
oh boo hoo, boo hoo hoo. Some major first world problems here. Dorset Logic
  • Score: -13

9:21am Fri 27 Jun 14

scrumpyjack says...

peace77 wrote:
Chris Hopper wrote:
This article is false because never has the school inspected uniform before and suddenly that day they did.
Listen you are right but the negative glory seekers on here have nothing better to do than pick on little girls and find a flaw in everyone's comments. Let these boring no hopers talk amongst themselves as they obviously attended school in the 1800's so we do need some compassion to them. The school decided yesterday to change the rules only those parents of children who attend here know this, all the other people can just make up crap to get a few likes as they need these likes to feel like they are wanted. I bet they are sitting awaiting a giro in there £2.99 primark pumps but behind there computers they pretend to be something else
You know when someone has lost an argument when they resort to playground insults.
[quote][p][bold]peace77[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chris Hopper[/bold] wrote: This article is false because never has the school inspected uniform before and suddenly that day they did.[/p][/quote]Listen you are right but the negative glory seekers on here have nothing better to do than pick on little girls and find a flaw in everyone's comments. Let these boring no hopers talk amongst themselves as they obviously attended school in the 1800's so we do need some compassion to them. The school decided yesterday to change the rules only those parents of children who attend here know this, all the other people can just make up crap to get a few likes as they need these likes to feel like they are wanted. I bet they are sitting awaiting a giro in there £2.99 primark pumps but behind there computers they pretend to be something else[/p][/quote]You know when someone has lost an argument when they resort to playground insults. scrumpyjack
  • Score: 36

9:24am Fri 27 Jun 14

dorsettech says...

mad mrs wrote:
dorsettech wrote:
mad mrs wrote:
dorsettech wrote:
mad mrs wrote:
dorsettech wrote:
mad mrs wrote:
For all you idiots out there that want to jump in on this! The school decided to change the uniform policy only yesterday! with no warning, Yes it is a big deal when our kids are left roaming the streets while we work. so for the IDIOTS that want to comment about pictures taken. Find something better to do like look for a job!
Of course they did!
I have a job thanks and my kids have the correct shoes for school.
well what's your problem then? move on goody tu shoes hahaa,
Oh and just for the record. Yes they did decide only yesterday that fabric shoes were no longer allowed! READ the news properly! A parent has said for the past 4 years its never been a problem! durrrrrr
Durrrrr I don't have a problem thanks.
I buy my kids the correct uniform and they know to follow the rules. If that makes ME the idiot then I accept your durrrrrr
well they would wouldn't they! and by the sounds of you the sunshine's out your back side.. So what! if your kids have the correct shoes and you work who cares.. jump back in your pram and drink your milk.
Are you for real?? I mean, what exactly did you just say??!!

Yes they would, wouldn't they? Why? Well I don't want my kids sat in an isolation room or being excluded or wandering the streets simply because I let them wear the wrong uniform. I'm not afraid of my kids like some parents appear to be.
WHAT? WHICH PART DONT YOU GET???? The school decided only yesterday that they no longer wanted pupils to wear FABRIC SHOES!!! We didn't know until they got sent home! Do yourself a favour and run along to perfection class! Your making yourself look stupid now! ha
Hmmmmm, I think it's pretty clear that I get most parts of what you are saying. I've been to perfection class you see so it's quite easy to understand a basic level of intelligence
[quote][p][bold]mad mrs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dorsettech[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mad mrs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dorsettech[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mad mrs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dorsettech[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mad mrs[/bold] wrote: For all you idiots out there that want to jump in on this! The school decided to change the uniform policy only yesterday! with no warning, Yes it is a big deal when our kids are left roaming the streets while we work. so for the IDIOTS that want to comment about pictures taken. Find something better to do like look for a job![/p][/quote]Of course they did! I have a job thanks and my kids have the correct shoes for school.[/p][/quote]well what's your problem then? move on goody tu shoes hahaa, Oh and just for the record. Yes they did decide only yesterday that fabric shoes were no longer allowed! READ the news properly! A parent has said for the past 4 years its never been a problem! durrrrrr[/p][/quote]Durrrrr I don't have a problem thanks. I buy my kids the correct uniform and they know to follow the rules. If that makes ME the idiot then I accept your durrrrrr[/p][/quote]well they would wouldn't they! and by the sounds of you the sunshine's out your back side.. So what! if your kids have the correct shoes and you work who cares.. jump back in your pram and drink your milk.[/p][/quote]Are you for real?? I mean, what exactly did you just say??!! Yes they would, wouldn't they? Why? Well I don't want my kids sat in an isolation room or being excluded or wandering the streets simply because I let them wear the wrong uniform. I'm not afraid of my kids like some parents appear to be.[/p][/quote]WHAT? WHICH PART DONT YOU GET???? The school decided only yesterday that they no longer wanted pupils to wear FABRIC SHOES!!! We didn't know until they got sent home! Do yourself a favour and run along to perfection class! Your making yourself look stupid now! ha[/p][/quote]Hmmmmm, I think it's pretty clear that I get most parts of what you are saying. I've been to perfection class you see so it's quite easy to understand a basic level of intelligence dorsettech
  • Score: 22

9:26am Fri 27 Jun 14

PokesdownMark says...

Marty Caine UKIP wrote:
crystal-coast wrote:
It's ridiculous! It's a pair of shoes and by the picture they are similar to what's lot of people wear in the work world. Ok I understand if they come in with trainers etc but the head teacher shouldn't of just sent them home. They should of waited to hear back from the parents. If I heard my child had been sent home and I received a text I would be fuming. They have a duty of care to these children.
Wow -16 for making a true point, schools do have a duty of care and if you actually read the article fully, it clearly states that they were turning children away at the gate and one parent did not receive any message until 12:40. That would be some 4 hours after they were sent home. I wonder if the headmaster would like to explain that one. When a parent sends their child to school they expect that school to put their safety first and foremost, this certainly wasn't the case here and that headmaster should be ashamed of himself. If you cannot speak directly to the parents then they remain your responsibility until school finishes, so if they have broken any rules you simply put them in exclusion before putting them out on the streets.
Yep. We agree this time. The school doesn't appear to have made basic checks on the impact to each child. Sure many lived only a short distance away. But the problems created for a few seems entirely disproportionate. There also seem to be questions about interpretation. You can buy black lace-up shoes that look a little like trainers. So it is far from black and white. Not as clear cut as some commenters are assuming.
[quote][p][bold]Marty Caine UKIP[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]crystal-coast[/bold] wrote: It's ridiculous! It's a pair of shoes and by the picture they are similar to what's lot of people wear in the work world. Ok I understand if they come in with trainers etc but the head teacher shouldn't of just sent them home. They should of waited to hear back from the parents. If I heard my child had been sent home and I received a text I would be fuming. They have a duty of care to these children.[/p][/quote]Wow -16 for making a true point, schools do have a duty of care and if you actually read the article fully, it clearly states that they were turning children away at the gate and one parent did not receive any message until 12:40. That would be some 4 hours after they were sent home. I wonder if the headmaster would like to explain that one. When a parent sends their child to school they expect that school to put their safety first and foremost, this certainly wasn't the case here and that headmaster should be ashamed of himself. If you cannot speak directly to the parents then they remain your responsibility until school finishes, so if they have broken any rules you simply put them in exclusion before putting them out on the streets.[/p][/quote]Yep. We agree this time. The school doesn't appear to have made basic checks on the impact to each child. Sure many lived only a short distance away. But the problems created for a few seems entirely disproportionate. There also seem to be questions about interpretation. You can buy black lace-up shoes that look a little like trainers. So it is far from black and white. Not as clear cut as some commenters are assuming. PokesdownMark
  • Score: 0

9:36am Fri 27 Jun 14

MrPitiful says...

It was only a few years ago that this newspaper was reporting incidences of bad behaviour, truancy, poor results and giving a general bad outlook for this school.

Everyone was slating the school and the reasons being highlighted were poor leadership and lack of discipline.

Then in comes a head-teacher who seemingly turns things around. He starts off by going "back to basics" and as far as possible, continues these basics until everyone is heading in the same direction.

One of these basics is uniform. Others include punctuality, respect for others, work completed satisfactorily and on time. These aren't too much to ask for - just basic expectations of not only a school, but work and life in general.

Then when a few parents fail to abide by these expectations - and I say parents, not students because it is the parents' responsibility - the headteacher and school gets berated.

Simple as this - when you enrol your child at school you are given a set of rules and regs you agree to as part of your child going there. Some you like, some you don't but you agree to them, including uniform.

I wish our eldest daughter had gone to this school.
It was only a few years ago that this newspaper was reporting incidences of bad behaviour, truancy, poor results and giving a general bad outlook for this school. Everyone was slating the school and the reasons being highlighted were poor leadership and lack of discipline. Then in comes a head-teacher who seemingly turns things around. He starts off by going "back to basics" and as far as possible, continues these basics until everyone is heading in the same direction. One of these basics is uniform. Others include punctuality, respect for others, work completed satisfactorily and on time. These aren't too much to ask for - just basic expectations of not only a school, but work and life in general. Then when a few parents fail to abide by these expectations - and I say parents, not students because it is the parents' responsibility - the headteacher and school gets berated. Simple as this - when you enrol your child at school you are given a set of rules and regs you agree to as part of your child going there. Some you like, some you don't but you agree to them, including uniform. I wish our eldest daughter had gone to this school. MrPitiful
  • Score: 57

9:47am Fri 27 Jun 14

dorsettech says...

MrPitiful wrote:
It was only a few years ago that this newspaper was reporting incidences of bad behaviour, truancy, poor results and giving a general bad outlook for this school.

Everyone was slating the school and the reasons being highlighted were poor leadership and lack of discipline.

Then in comes a head-teacher who seemingly turns things around. He starts off by going "back to basics" and as far as possible, continues these basics until everyone is heading in the same direction.

One of these basics is uniform. Others include punctuality, respect for others, work completed satisfactorily and on time. These aren't too much to ask for - just basic expectations of not only a school, but work and life in general.

Then when a few parents fail to abide by these expectations - and I say parents, not students because it is the parents' responsibility - the headteacher and school gets berated.

Simple as this - when you enrol your child at school you are given a set of rules and regs you agree to as part of your child going there. Some you like, some you don't but you agree to them, including uniform.

I wish our eldest daughter had gone to this school.
Excellent!!
[quote][p][bold]MrPitiful[/bold] wrote: It was only a few years ago that this newspaper was reporting incidences of bad behaviour, truancy, poor results and giving a general bad outlook for this school. Everyone was slating the school and the reasons being highlighted were poor leadership and lack of discipline. Then in comes a head-teacher who seemingly turns things around. He starts off by going "back to basics" and as far as possible, continues these basics until everyone is heading in the same direction. One of these basics is uniform. Others include punctuality, respect for others, work completed satisfactorily and on time. These aren't too much to ask for - just basic expectations of not only a school, but work and life in general. Then when a few parents fail to abide by these expectations - and I say parents, not students because it is the parents' responsibility - the headteacher and school gets berated. Simple as this - when you enrol your child at school you are given a set of rules and regs you agree to as part of your child going there. Some you like, some you don't but you agree to them, including uniform. I wish our eldest daughter had gone to this school.[/p][/quote]Excellent!! dorsettech
  • Score: 39

9:50am Fri 27 Jun 14

nosuchluck54 says...

Marty Caine UKIP wrote:
crystal-coast wrote:
It's ridiculous! It's a pair of shoes and by the picture they are similar to what's lot of people wear in the work world. Ok I understand if they come in with trainers etc but the head teacher shouldn't of just sent them home. They should of waited to hear back from the parents. If I heard my child had been sent home and I received a text I would be fuming. They have a duty of care to these children.
Wow -16 for making a true point, schools do have a duty of care and if you actually read the article fully, it clearly states that they were turning children away at the gate and one parent did not receive any message until 12:40. That would be some 4 hours after they were sent home. I wonder if the headmaster would like to explain that one. When a parent sends their child to school they expect that school to put their safety first and foremost, this certainly wasn't the case here and that headmaster should be ashamed of himself. If you cannot speak directly to the parents then they remain your responsibility until school finishes, so if they have broken any rules you simply put them in exclusion before putting them out on the streets.
WOW so out of touch with public opinion,how unusual !
[quote][p][bold]Marty Caine UKIP[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]crystal-coast[/bold] wrote: It's ridiculous! It's a pair of shoes and by the picture they are similar to what's lot of people wear in the work world. Ok I understand if they come in with trainers etc but the head teacher shouldn't of just sent them home. They should of waited to hear back from the parents. If I heard my child had been sent home and I received a text I would be fuming. They have a duty of care to these children.[/p][/quote]Wow -16 for making a true point, schools do have a duty of care and if you actually read the article fully, it clearly states that they were turning children away at the gate and one parent did not receive any message until 12:40. That would be some 4 hours after they were sent home. I wonder if the headmaster would like to explain that one. When a parent sends their child to school they expect that school to put their safety first and foremost, this certainly wasn't the case here and that headmaster should be ashamed of himself. If you cannot speak directly to the parents then they remain your responsibility until school finishes, so if they have broken any rules you simply put them in exclusion before putting them out on the streets.[/p][/quote]WOW so out of touch with public opinion,how unusual ! nosuchluck54
  • Score: 19

9:53am Fri 27 Jun 14

Sir Retry69 says...

Sir Retry69 wrote:
Lord Spring wrote:
vicjoaid wrote:
They did the same in 2010, I agree with the school. When I was at school we had a strict uniform policy and we're sent home if it was wrong. Parents should ensure that children go correctly dressed.
We were not allowed Windsor knots in our ties.
It took nearly a week of tuition from my dad to teach me how to tie a Windsor knot.
I was 5 at the time and I remember daddy saying through gritted teeth,"this knot won't slip" I often thought perhaps he had other things on his mind apart from my appearance .
[quote][p][bold]Sir Retry69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lord Spring[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]vicjoaid[/bold] wrote: They did the same in 2010, I agree with the school. When I was at school we had a strict uniform policy and we're sent home if it was wrong. Parents should ensure that children go correctly dressed.[/p][/quote]We were not allowed Windsor knots in our ties.[/p][/quote]It took nearly a week of tuition from my dad to teach me how to tie a Windsor knot.[/p][/quote]I was 5 at the time and I remember daddy saying through gritted teeth,"this knot won't slip" I often thought perhaps he had other things on his mind apart from my appearance . Sir Retry69
  • Score: 6

10:00am Fri 27 Jun 14

The Liberal says...

So let's get this straight: if the story's about kids being sent home for wearing the wrong uniform, most commenters spout on about 'rules are rules', yet if it's about motorists being caught speeding etc they complain about the rules being enforced? Hmm…
So let's get this straight: if the story's about kids being sent home for wearing the wrong uniform, most commenters spout on about 'rules are rules', yet if it's about motorists being caught speeding etc they complain about the rules being enforced? Hmm… The Liberal
  • Score: -20

10:09am Fri 27 Jun 14

Marty Caine UKIP says...

MrPitiful wrote:
It was only a few years ago that this newspaper was reporting incidences of bad behaviour, truancy, poor results and giving a general bad outlook for this school.

Everyone was slating the school and the reasons being highlighted were poor leadership and lack of discipline.

Then in comes a head-teacher who seemingly turns things around. He starts off by going "back to basics" and as far as possible, continues these basics until everyone is heading in the same direction.

One of these basics is uniform. Others include punctuality, respect for others, work completed satisfactorily and on time. These aren't too much to ask for - just basic expectations of not only a school, but work and life in general.

Then when a few parents fail to abide by these expectations - and I say parents, not students because it is the parents' responsibility - the headteacher and school gets berated.

Simple as this - when you enrol your child at school you are given a set of rules and regs you agree to as part of your child going there. Some you like, some you don't but you agree to them, including uniform.

I wish our eldest daughter had gone to this school.
So what you are saying is that if you had agreed to the school rules and then someone suddenly decided to change those rules which resulted in your child wandering the streets because she had not been allowed into the school, whilst you were busy at work. You would be more than happy about that?

That appears to be the case here, which sensible parents are quite rightly upset about and it is that point that so many on here seem to be missing.
[quote][p][bold]MrPitiful[/bold] wrote: It was only a few years ago that this newspaper was reporting incidences of bad behaviour, truancy, poor results and giving a general bad outlook for this school. Everyone was slating the school and the reasons being highlighted were poor leadership and lack of discipline. Then in comes a head-teacher who seemingly turns things around. He starts off by going "back to basics" and as far as possible, continues these basics until everyone is heading in the same direction. One of these basics is uniform. Others include punctuality, respect for others, work completed satisfactorily and on time. These aren't too much to ask for - just basic expectations of not only a school, but work and life in general. Then when a few parents fail to abide by these expectations - and I say parents, not students because it is the parents' responsibility - the headteacher and school gets berated. Simple as this - when you enrol your child at school you are given a set of rules and regs you agree to as part of your child going there. Some you like, some you don't but you agree to them, including uniform. I wish our eldest daughter had gone to this school.[/p][/quote]So what you are saying is that if you had agreed to the school rules and then someone suddenly decided to change those rules which resulted in your child wandering the streets because she had not been allowed into the school, whilst you were busy at work. You would be more than happy about that? That appears to be the case here, which sensible parents are quite rightly upset about and it is that point that so many on here seem to be missing. Marty Caine UKIP
  • Score: -30

10:09am Fri 27 Jun 14

hamworthygirl says...

I understand the frustration of the parents if it is true that they had been wearing these shoes for a while and nothing was said. However a group of 14/15 years olds walking around is normal for that age, they wont be in any danger surely? Im sure the parents let them out with their friends in school holidays with their friends.
I understand the frustration of the parents if it is true that they had been wearing these shoes for a while and nothing was said. However a group of 14/15 years olds walking around is normal for that age, they wont be in any danger surely? Im sure the parents let them out with their friends in school holidays with their friends. hamworthygirl
  • Score: 24

10:11am Fri 27 Jun 14

Branksome snail says...

Most comments on here are in favor of the school. I think its a bit heavy handed, as they are just shoes. I agree with abiding by the rules, but i also appreciate the need for a good education being more important.
Unfortunately, the usual armchair types get in here and say, things like 'rules are rules, 'end of' and who probably have never had children. What about parents in work, who have had to excuse themselves from work, and say I'm sorry, I've got to go and pick my child up, as they have the wrong color shoes on.

Its funny also, who these pillars of society who say 'rules are rules' etc, happen to be the biggest name callers and insultors on here. Presumably the right color shoes are more important to people than an ability to hold a conversation without a tirade of insults against anybody else who dares to have an opinion other than their own.
Most comments on here are in favor of the school. I think its a bit heavy handed, as they are just shoes. I agree with abiding by the rules, but i also appreciate the need for a good education being more important. Unfortunately, the usual armchair types get in here and say, things like 'rules are rules, 'end of' and who probably have never had children. What about parents in work, who have had to excuse themselves from work, and say I'm sorry, I've got to go and pick my child up, as they have the wrong color shoes on. Its funny also, who these pillars of society who say 'rules are rules' etc, happen to be the biggest name callers and insultors on here. Presumably the right color shoes are more important to people than an ability to hold a conversation without a tirade of insults against anybody else who dares to have an opinion other than their own. Branksome snail
  • Score: -22

10:13am Fri 27 Jun 14

sea poole says...

Mr UKIP - The concept of turning pupils away is a common one across Europe. For example in Germany, if a teacher is absent and a 'supply' teacher cannot be found, pupils aren't accommodated in other classes -they're turned away at the school gates. We're always being exhorted to follow the example of 'high standards' in education of European countries -so maybe we're falling into line...or is that an anathema to your political views?
Mr UKIP - The concept of turning pupils away is a common one across Europe. For example in Germany, if a teacher is absent and a 'supply' teacher cannot be found, pupils aren't accommodated in other classes -they're turned away at the school gates. We're always being exhorted to follow the example of 'high standards' in education of European countries -so maybe we're falling into line...or is that an anathema to your political views? sea poole
  • Score: 7

10:15am Fri 27 Jun 14

The Liberal says...

Ginny nz wrote:
Good on the school . Rules are rules and kids have to learn some respect. If you let one get away with it then you're in trouble !! When I was at school I was taught to do as I was told and there's nothing wrong with me .You've changed your tune…
  
Ginny nz wrote:
No one sticks to speed limits anyway so it would be a waste of time (lowering the speed limit on the A31)
[quote][p][bold]Ginny nz[/bold] wrote: Good on the school . Rules are rules and kids have to learn some respect. If you let one get away with it then you're in trouble !! When I was at school I was taught to do as I was told and there's nothing wrong with me .[/p][/quote]You've changed your tune…    [Quote]Ginny nz wrote: No one sticks to speed limits anyway so it would be a waste of time (lowering the speed limit on the A31)[/quote] The Liberal
  • Score: -6

10:16am Fri 27 Jun 14

dorsettech says...

Marty Caine UKIP wrote:
MrPitiful wrote:
It was only a few years ago that this newspaper was reporting incidences of bad behaviour, truancy, poor results and giving a general bad outlook for this school.

Everyone was slating the school and the reasons being highlighted were poor leadership and lack of discipline.

Then in comes a head-teacher who seemingly turns things around. He starts off by going "back to basics" and as far as possible, continues these basics until everyone is heading in the same direction.

One of these basics is uniform. Others include punctuality, respect for others, work completed satisfactorily and on time. These aren't too much to ask for - just basic expectations of not only a school, but work and life in general.

Then when a few parents fail to abide by these expectations - and I say parents, not students because it is the parents' responsibility - the headteacher and school gets berated.

Simple as this - when you enrol your child at school you are given a set of rules and regs you agree to as part of your child going there. Some you like, some you don't but you agree to them, including uniform.

I wish our eldest daughter had gone to this school.
So what you are saying is that if you had agreed to the school rules and then someone suddenly decided to change those rules which resulted in your child wandering the streets because she had not been allowed into the school, whilst you were busy at work. You would be more than happy about that?

That appears to be the case here, which sensible parents are quite rightly upset about and it is that point that so many on here seem to be missing.
No I think YOU are missing the point here.
What is there not to understand about "plain black leather shoes"??
[quote][p][bold]Marty Caine UKIP[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MrPitiful[/bold] wrote: It was only a few years ago that this newspaper was reporting incidences of bad behaviour, truancy, poor results and giving a general bad outlook for this school. Everyone was slating the school and the reasons being highlighted were poor leadership and lack of discipline. Then in comes a head-teacher who seemingly turns things around. He starts off by going "back to basics" and as far as possible, continues these basics until everyone is heading in the same direction. One of these basics is uniform. Others include punctuality, respect for others, work completed satisfactorily and on time. These aren't too much to ask for - just basic expectations of not only a school, but work and life in general. Then when a few parents fail to abide by these expectations - and I say parents, not students because it is the parents' responsibility - the headteacher and school gets berated. Simple as this - when you enrol your child at school you are given a set of rules and regs you agree to as part of your child going there. Some you like, some you don't but you agree to them, including uniform. I wish our eldest daughter had gone to this school.[/p][/quote]So what you are saying is that if you had agreed to the school rules and then someone suddenly decided to change those rules which resulted in your child wandering the streets because she had not been allowed into the school, whilst you were busy at work. You would be more than happy about that? That appears to be the case here, which sensible parents are quite rightly upset about and it is that point that so many on here seem to be missing.[/p][/quote]No I think YOU are missing the point here. What is there not to understand about "plain black leather shoes"?? dorsettech
  • Score: 20

10:18am Fri 27 Jun 14

The Liberal says...

Branksome snail wrote:
Most comments on here are in favor of the school. I think its a bit heavy handed, as they are just shoes. I agree with abiding by the rules, but i also appreciate the need for a good education being more important.
Unfortunately, the usual armchair types get in here and say, things like 'rules are rules, 'end of' and who probably have never had children. What about parents in work, who have had to excuse themselves from work, and say I'm sorry, I've got to go and pick my child up, as they have the wrong color shoes on.

Its funny also, who these pillars of society who say 'rules are rules' etc, happen to be the biggest name callers and insultors on here. Presumably the right color shoes are more important to people than an ability to hold a conversation without a tirade of insults against anybody else who dares to have an opinion other than their own.
Well said. Nail on head.
[quote][p][bold]Branksome snail[/bold] wrote: Most comments on here are in favor of the school. I think its a bit heavy handed, as they are just shoes. I agree with abiding by the rules, but i also appreciate the need for a good education being more important. Unfortunately, the usual armchair types get in here and say, things like 'rules are rules, 'end of' and who probably have never had children. What about parents in work, who have had to excuse themselves from work, and say I'm sorry, I've got to go and pick my child up, as they have the wrong color shoes on. Its funny also, who these pillars of society who say 'rules are rules' etc, happen to be the biggest name callers and insultors on here. Presumably the right color shoes are more important to people than an ability to hold a conversation without a tirade of insults against anybody else who dares to have an opinion other than their own.[/p][/quote]Well said. Nail on head. The Liberal
  • Score: -13

10:21am Fri 27 Jun 14

LM_Poole says...

mad mrs wrote:
For all you idiots out there that want to jump in on this! The school decided to change the uniform policy only yesterday! with no warning, Yes it is a big deal when our kids are left roaming the streets while we work. so for the IDIOTS that want to comment about pictures taken. Find something better to do like look for a job!
Well it seems pretty clear from their uniform policy on their website
http://www.tbowa.org
/the-academy/uniform
/

Unless you don't understand the meaning of the word canvass.

Just send your children to school in the correct uniform - how hard is it really? The schools lay their expectations out quite clearly in all of their literature... unless you choose not to read it.

If they go into a line of work where a set uniform is expected (police, air steward or perhaps in your case McDonalds) they won't just get sent home to change, they could lose their jobs. Is there really any harm in teaching children to follow rules?!
[quote][p][bold]mad mrs[/bold] wrote: For all you idiots out there that want to jump in on this! The school decided to change the uniform policy only yesterday! with no warning, Yes it is a big deal when our kids are left roaming the streets while we work. so for the IDIOTS that want to comment about pictures taken. Find something better to do like look for a job![/p][/quote]Well it seems pretty clear from their uniform policy on their website http://www.tbowa.org /the-academy/uniform / Unless you don't understand the meaning of the word canvass. Just send your children to school in the correct uniform - how hard is it really? The schools lay their expectations out quite clearly in all of their literature... unless you choose not to read it. If they go into a line of work where a set uniform is expected (police, air steward or perhaps in your case McDonalds) they won't just get sent home to change, they could lose their jobs. Is there really any harm in teaching children to follow rules?! LM_Poole
  • Score: 36

10:25am Fri 27 Jun 14

Marty Caine UKIP says...

sea poole wrote:
Mr UKIP - The concept of turning pupils away is a common one across Europe. For example in Germany, if a teacher is absent and a 'supply' teacher cannot be found, pupils aren't accommodated in other classes -they're turned away at the school gates. We're always being exhorted to follow the example of 'high standards' in education of European countries -so maybe we're falling into line...or is that an anathema to your political views?
Actually my political view is that people should abide by the laws of their country and in this country teachers are not legally aloud to exclude children from school, this can only be done by a headmaster or an acting headmaster and when excluding any child from their right to an education, that person is still governed by the duty of care, the headmaster has a legal responsibility for the health and safety of all students during school time. Sending children home to change their shoes, simply because the school has just decided to change their rules without notifying anyone is wrong. Is this really so difficult to understand?
[quote][p][bold]sea poole[/bold] wrote: Mr UKIP - The concept of turning pupils away is a common one across Europe. For example in Germany, if a teacher is absent and a 'supply' teacher cannot be found, pupils aren't accommodated in other classes -they're turned away at the school gates. We're always being exhorted to follow the example of 'high standards' in education of European countries -so maybe we're falling into line...or is that an anathema to your political views?[/p][/quote]Actually my political view is that people should abide by the laws of their country and in this country teachers are not legally aloud to exclude children from school, this can only be done by a headmaster or an acting headmaster and when excluding any child from their right to an education, that person is still governed by the duty of care, the headmaster has a legal responsibility for the health and safety of all students during school time. Sending children home to change their shoes, simply because the school has just decided to change their rules without notifying anyone is wrong. Is this really so difficult to understand? Marty Caine UKIP
  • Score: -20

10:26am Fri 27 Jun 14

BournemouthDan says...

Lots of non parents saying this is wrong. Its only a small minority of familys like the one in the photo who believe they dont have to follow the rules.

The rules have not been changed, they have always been clear. Just as they have been clear that children will be denied entry if they do not meet the expected and required standards!

We were told on our first ever visit to the school that children would be turned away and we still chose The BOW.
Lots of non parents saying this is wrong. Its only a small minority of familys like the one in the photo who believe they dont have to follow the rules. The rules have not been changed, they have always been clear. Just as they have been clear that children will be denied entry if they do not meet the expected and required standards! We were told on our first ever visit to the school that children would be turned away and we still chose The BOW. BournemouthDan
  • Score: 37

10:26am Fri 27 Jun 14

TheDistrict says...

Does the footwear really matter, unless of course they are dirty sports wear. If they are clean, what difference does it make. Surely the Headmaster must know that the brain is in the head, and not in the feet. The preference should be on how the student is at school work, and good progression towards exams and future education and work.

Our children are let down enough these days without having their learning seat removed from them.
Does the footwear really matter, unless of course they are dirty sports wear. If they are clean, what difference does it make. Surely the Headmaster must know that the brain is in the head, and not in the feet. The preference should be on how the student is at school work, and good progression towards exams and future education and work. Our children are let down enough these days without having their learning seat removed from them. TheDistrict
  • Score: -29

10:28am Fri 27 Jun 14

dorsettech says...

LM_Poole wrote:
mad mrs wrote:
For all you idiots out there that want to jump in on this! The school decided to change the uniform policy only yesterday! with no warning, Yes it is a big deal when our kids are left roaming the streets while we work. so for the IDIOTS that want to comment about pictures taken. Find something better to do like look for a job!
Well it seems pretty clear from their uniform policy on their website
http://www.tbowa.org

/the-academy/uniform

/

Unless you don't understand the meaning of the word canvass.

Just send your children to school in the correct uniform - how hard is it really? The schools lay their expectations out quite clearly in all of their literature... unless you choose not to read it.

If they go into a line of work where a set uniform is expected (police, air steward or perhaps in your case McDonalds) they won't just get sent home to change, they could lose their jobs. Is there really any harm in teaching children to follow rules?!
It appears there is LM!!
[quote][p][bold]LM_Poole[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mad mrs[/bold] wrote: For all you idiots out there that want to jump in on this! The school decided to change the uniform policy only yesterday! with no warning, Yes it is a big deal when our kids are left roaming the streets while we work. so for the IDIOTS that want to comment about pictures taken. Find something better to do like look for a job![/p][/quote]Well it seems pretty clear from their uniform policy on their website http://www.tbowa.org /the-academy/uniform / Unless you don't understand the meaning of the word canvass. Just send your children to school in the correct uniform - how hard is it really? The schools lay their expectations out quite clearly in all of their literature... unless you choose not to read it. If they go into a line of work where a set uniform is expected (police, air steward or perhaps in your case McDonalds) they won't just get sent home to change, they could lose their jobs. Is there really any harm in teaching children to follow rules?![/p][/quote]It appears there is LM!! dorsettech
  • Score: 7

10:28am Fri 27 Jun 14

hadvar says...

The first thing the headteacher of a school needs to do is ensure the safety of his or her students. How are they going to do that if they are not on the school site? Could they have inforced this rule in another way? I'd say it was in the very least, heavy handed. At worst, well, you run the risk of some kind of harm befalling someone to whom you have a duty of care? This headteacher is happy to take that chance, over something as trivial as this? Brave man. He would be metaphorically crucified if something had gone wrong. Every time he turns a kid away, he rolls the dice. He'd better hope his luck holds.
The first thing the headteacher of a school needs to do is ensure the safety of his or her students. How are they going to do that if they are not on the school site? Could they have inforced this rule in another way? I'd say it was in the very least, heavy handed. At worst, well, you run the risk of some kind of harm befalling someone to whom you have a duty of care? This headteacher is happy to take that chance, over something as trivial as this? Brave man. He would be metaphorically crucified if something had gone wrong. Every time he turns a kid away, he rolls the dice. He'd better hope his luck holds. hadvar
  • Score: -17

10:32am Fri 27 Jun 14

Bonkeydollocks says...

Look at the picture....are we sure they didn't get sent home for just turning up at school with just one shoe each?
Look at the picture....are we sure they didn't get sent home for just turning up at school with just one shoe each? Bonkeydollocks
  • Score: 16

10:40am Fri 27 Jun 14

Marty Caine UKIP says...

LM_Poole wrote:
mad mrs wrote:
For all you idiots out there that want to jump in on this! The school decided to change the uniform policy only yesterday! with no warning, Yes it is a big deal when our kids are left roaming the streets while we work. so for the IDIOTS that want to comment about pictures taken. Find something better to do like look for a job!
Well it seems pretty clear from their uniform policy on their website
http://www.tbowa.org

/the-academy/uniform

/

Unless you don't understand the meaning of the word canvass.

Just send your children to school in the correct uniform - how hard is it really? The schools lay their expectations out quite clearly in all of their literature... unless you choose not to read it.

If they go into a line of work where a set uniform is expected (police, air steward or perhaps in your case McDonalds) they won't just get sent home to change, they could lose their jobs. Is there really any harm in teaching children to follow rules?!
That page that you have linked to, was last modified 27 June 2014 10:35:18.

I suppose it could be just a coincidence that they happened to change it this morning I suppose.
[quote][p][bold]LM_Poole[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mad mrs[/bold] wrote: For all you idiots out there that want to jump in on this! The school decided to change the uniform policy only yesterday! with no warning, Yes it is a big deal when our kids are left roaming the streets while we work. so for the IDIOTS that want to comment about pictures taken. Find something better to do like look for a job![/p][/quote]Well it seems pretty clear from their uniform policy on their website http://www.tbowa.org /the-academy/uniform / Unless you don't understand the meaning of the word canvass. Just send your children to school in the correct uniform - how hard is it really? The schools lay their expectations out quite clearly in all of their literature... unless you choose not to read it. If they go into a line of work where a set uniform is expected (police, air steward or perhaps in your case McDonalds) they won't just get sent home to change, they could lose their jobs. Is there really any harm in teaching children to follow rules?![/p][/quote]That page that you have linked to, was last modified 27 June 2014 10:35:18. I suppose it could be just a coincidence that they happened to change it this morning I suppose. Marty Caine UKIP
  • Score: -17

10:51am Fri 27 Jun 14

Carolyn43 says...

Firstly, I think peace77 needs to change their screen name - he or she definitely isn't promoting peace.

Quote: Secondly: Samanda Watt, whose 14-year-old daughter was ordered off the premises, said: “I came home from doing the school run and she and her friends were sitting on the pavement revising. There were also crowds of them walking along Castle Lane.” "Crowds of them" when only 15 were turned away? Sounds like a bit of an exaggeration. Could it be that when one was turned away at the gates some of their friends decided to join them? What was attendance like that day?

Thirdly, break one rule and get away with, so break another. Doesn't take long for all discipline to break down. The parents are given a copy of the rules before they accept a place for their child so it's their responsibility to ensure that their child abides by those rules. No use bleating when they're sent home for not abiding to what you agreed to by accepting the place.
Firstly, I think peace77 needs to change their screen name - he or she definitely isn't promoting peace. Quote: Secondly: Samanda Watt, whose 14-year-old daughter was ordered off the premises, said: “I came home from doing the school run and she and her friends were sitting on the pavement revising. There were also crowds of them walking along Castle Lane.” "Crowds of them" when only 15 were turned away? Sounds like a bit of an exaggeration. Could it be that when one was turned away at the gates some of their friends decided to join them? What was attendance like that day? Thirdly, break one rule and get away with, so break another. Doesn't take long for all discipline to break down. The parents are given a copy of the rules before they accept a place for their child so it's their responsibility to ensure that their child abides by those rules. No use bleating when they're sent home for not abiding to what you agreed to by accepting the place. Carolyn43
  • Score: 28

10:55am Fri 27 Jun 14

Carolyn43 says...

Nail varnish isn't that much of a problem. I and other teachers used to keep a bottle of nail varnish remover in our desks. Most girls removed it. For the few who wouldn't the head of year dealt with it and took appropriate action.
Nail varnish isn't that much of a problem. I and other teachers used to keep a bottle of nail varnish remover in our desks. Most girls removed it. For the few who wouldn't the head of year dealt with it and took appropriate action. Carolyn43
  • Score: 10

10:55am Fri 27 Jun 14

hadvar says...

Marty Caine UKIP wrote:
LM_Poole wrote:
mad mrs wrote:
For all you idiots out there that want to jump in on this! The school decided to change the uniform policy only yesterday! with no warning, Yes it is a big deal when our kids are left roaming the streets while we work. so for the IDIOTS that want to comment about pictures taken. Find something better to do like look for a job!
Well it seems pretty clear from their uniform policy on their website
http://www.tbowa.org


/the-academy/uniform


/

Unless you don't understand the meaning of the word canvass.

Just send your children to school in the correct uniform - how hard is it really? The schools lay their expectations out quite clearly in all of their literature... unless you choose not to read it.

If they go into a line of work where a set uniform is expected (police, air steward or perhaps in your case McDonalds) they won't just get sent home to change, they could lose their jobs. Is there really any harm in teaching children to follow rules?!
That page that you have linked to, was last modified 27 June 2014 10:35:18.

I suppose it could be just a coincidence that they happened to change it this morning I suppose.
Just to get geeky on you for a second Marty, using the 'way back machine' I see that page was previously changed back on st georges day. And visually, I can't see any difference in the content from then to now. I've not done an exact 'diff' on the pages, and I cant be ar5ed, but they look about the same to me.
[quote][p][bold]Marty Caine UKIP[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LM_Poole[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mad mrs[/bold] wrote: For all you idiots out there that want to jump in on this! The school decided to change the uniform policy only yesterday! with no warning, Yes it is a big deal when our kids are left roaming the streets while we work. so for the IDIOTS that want to comment about pictures taken. Find something better to do like look for a job![/p][/quote]Well it seems pretty clear from their uniform policy on their website http://www.tbowa.org /the-academy/uniform / Unless you don't understand the meaning of the word canvass. Just send your children to school in the correct uniform - how hard is it really? The schools lay their expectations out quite clearly in all of their literature... unless you choose not to read it. If they go into a line of work where a set uniform is expected (police, air steward or perhaps in your case McDonalds) they won't just get sent home to change, they could lose their jobs. Is there really any harm in teaching children to follow rules?![/p][/quote]That page that you have linked to, was last modified 27 June 2014 10:35:18. I suppose it could be just a coincidence that they happened to change it this morning I suppose.[/p][/quote]Just to get geeky on you for a second Marty, using the 'way back machine' I see that page was previously changed back on st georges day. And visually, I can't see any difference in the content from then to now. I've not done an exact 'diff' on the pages, and I cant be ar5ed, but they look about the same to me. hadvar
  • Score: 20

10:57am Fri 27 Jun 14

LM_Poole says...

Marty Caine UKIP wrote:
LM_Poole wrote:
mad mrs wrote: For all you idiots out there that want to jump in on this! The school decided to change the uniform policy only yesterday! with no warning, Yes it is a big deal when our kids are left roaming the streets while we work. so for the IDIOTS that want to comment about pictures taken. Find something better to do like look for a job!
Well it seems pretty clear from their uniform policy on their website http://www.tbowa.org /the-academy/uniform / Unless you don't understand the meaning of the word canvass. Just send your children to school in the correct uniform - how hard is it really? The schools lay their expectations out quite clearly in all of their literature... unless you choose not to read it. If they go into a line of work where a set uniform is expected (police, air steward or perhaps in your case McDonalds) they won't just get sent home to change, they could lose their jobs. Is there really any harm in teaching children to follow rules?!
That page that you have linked to, was last modified 27 June 2014 10:35:18. I suppose it could be just a coincidence that they happened to change it this morning I suppose.
Are you really honestly telling me you believe a school would change its uniform policy without advising parents in advance - and then turn students away that same morning? Haha, I'm assuming you don't have children at school.

Both my daughters are at school, one in primary one in secondary. We have constant communication from both schools on all manner of subjects.

Also I think you'll find it's a pretty standard ruling on footwear to have no canvas or fabric shoes allowed, it's in both my daughters school uniform policies.

And it's not for the sake of it, the school base their uniform decisions on a number of factors. What use are fabric shoes if it rains, sitting there with wet feet all day. In growing children fabric shoes offer inadequate foot support. Shame the schools are more cottoned onto this than some parents!
[quote][p][bold]Marty Caine UKIP[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LM_Poole[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mad mrs[/bold] wrote: For all you idiots out there that want to jump in on this! The school decided to change the uniform policy only yesterday! with no warning, Yes it is a big deal when our kids are left roaming the streets while we work. so for the IDIOTS that want to comment about pictures taken. Find something better to do like look for a job![/p][/quote]Well it seems pretty clear from their uniform policy on their website http://www.tbowa.org /the-academy/uniform / Unless you don't understand the meaning of the word canvass. Just send your children to school in the correct uniform - how hard is it really? The schools lay their expectations out quite clearly in all of their literature... unless you choose not to read it. If they go into a line of work where a set uniform is expected (police, air steward or perhaps in your case McDonalds) they won't just get sent home to change, they could lose their jobs. Is there really any harm in teaching children to follow rules?![/p][/quote]That page that you have linked to, was last modified 27 June 2014 10:35:18. I suppose it could be just a coincidence that they happened to change it this morning I suppose.[/p][/quote]Are you really honestly telling me you believe a school would change its uniform policy without advising parents in advance - and then turn students away that same morning? Haha, I'm assuming you don't have children at school. Both my daughters are at school, one in primary one in secondary. We have constant communication from both schools on all manner of subjects. Also I think you'll find it's a pretty standard ruling on footwear to have no canvas or fabric shoes allowed, it's in both my daughters school uniform policies. And it's not for the sake of it, the school base their uniform decisions on a number of factors. What use are fabric shoes if it rains, sitting there with wet feet all day. In growing children fabric shoes offer inadequate foot support. Shame the schools are more cottoned onto this than some parents! LM_Poole
  • Score: 27

10:58am Fri 27 Jun 14

dorsettech says...

Marty would know all about changing comments wouldn't you Marty?
Marty would know all about changing comments wouldn't you Marty? dorsettech
  • Score: 10

11:02am Fri 27 Jun 14

Marty Caine UKIP says...

Carolyn43 wrote:
Firstly, I think peace77 needs to change their screen name - he or she definitely isn't promoting peace.

Quote: Secondly: Samanda Watt, whose 14-year-old daughter was ordered off the premises, said: “I came home from doing the school run and she and her friends were sitting on the pavement revising. There were also crowds of them walking along Castle Lane.” "Crowds of them" when only 15 were turned away? Sounds like a bit of an exaggeration. Could it be that when one was turned away at the gates some of their friends decided to join them? What was attendance like that day?

Thirdly, break one rule and get away with, so break another. Doesn't take long for all discipline to break down. The parents are given a copy of the rules before they accept a place for their child so it's their responsibility to ensure that their child abides by those rules. No use bleating when they're sent home for not abiding to what you agreed to by accepting the place.
It's not like you to miss the point, some have clearly stated here that this new rule of no canvas shoes has just been brought in and the parents were unaware of it. Those shoes pictured look perfectly respectable schools shoes, black with low heel. I for one actually prefer to wear canvas rather than leather, purely for comfort. As someone else quite rightly pointed out it's not like they are wearing trainers or DMs is it.
[quote][p][bold]Carolyn43[/bold] wrote: Firstly, I think peace77 needs to change their screen name - he or she definitely isn't promoting peace. Quote: Secondly: Samanda Watt, whose 14-year-old daughter was ordered off the premises, said: “I came home from doing the school run and she and her friends were sitting on the pavement revising. There were also crowds of them walking along Castle Lane.” "Crowds of them" when only 15 were turned away? Sounds like a bit of an exaggeration. Could it be that when one was turned away at the gates some of their friends decided to join them? What was attendance like that day? Thirdly, break one rule and get away with, so break another. Doesn't take long for all discipline to break down. The parents are given a copy of the rules before they accept a place for their child so it's their responsibility to ensure that their child abides by those rules. No use bleating when they're sent home for not abiding to what you agreed to by accepting the place.[/p][/quote]It's not like you to miss the point, some have clearly stated here that this new rule of no canvas shoes has just been brought in and the parents were unaware of it. Those shoes pictured look perfectly respectable schools shoes, black with low heel. I for one actually prefer to wear canvas rather than leather, purely for comfort. As someone else quite rightly pointed out it's not like they are wearing trainers or DMs is it. Marty Caine UKIP
  • Score: -26

11:13am Fri 27 Jun 14

Bournesouthmouth Downpokes says...

“They are not going to go into the world of law or medicine or be leaders in industry wearing trainers or skinny trousers, they will be expected to dress smartly.”

So high heeled 'court shoes' and sheer pantyhose it is then!
“They are not going to go into the world of law or medicine or be leaders in industry wearing trainers or skinny trousers, they will be expected to dress smartly.” So high heeled 'court shoes' and sheer pantyhose it is then! Bournesouthmouth Downpokes
  • Score: 1

11:17am Fri 27 Jun 14

The Liberal says...

The Liberal wrote:
So let's get this straight: if the story's about kids being sent home for wearing the wrong uniform, most commenters spout on about 'rules are rules', yet if it's about motorists being caught speeding etc they complain about the rules being enforced? Hmm…
Yeah, keep thumbing me down rather than addressing my point – it just confirms what I'm saying is true. Bunch of hypocrites!
[quote][p][bold]The Liberal[/bold] wrote: So let's get this straight: if the story's about kids being sent home for wearing the wrong uniform, most commenters spout on about 'rules are rules', yet if it's about motorists being caught speeding etc they complain about the rules being enforced? Hmm…[/p][/quote]Yeah, keep thumbing me down rather than addressing my point – it just confirms what I'm saying is true. Bunch of hypocrites! The Liberal
  • Score: -22

11:18am Fri 27 Jun 14

Ivan Opinion says...

Bonkeydollocks wrote:
Good on the school I say and also for 100% sticking to their policy. Hopefully this tough stance will mean all pupils consistently turn up in the correct uniform and their whining parents ensure they are.
Yes - Very True.. But sending a 14 year old home to do so without knowing that child can have safe passage home seems quite wrong. Equally sending a child home, thus ensuring a period of time where they are losing education is unacceptable. A simple letter home suggesting the correct attire the next day is surely more sensible.
[quote][p][bold]Bonkeydollocks[/bold] wrote: Good on the school I say and also for 100% sticking to their policy. Hopefully this tough stance will mean all pupils consistently turn up in the correct uniform and their whining parents ensure they are.[/p][/quote]Yes - Very True.. But sending a 14 year old home to do so without knowing that child can have safe passage home seems quite wrong. Equally sending a child home, thus ensuring a period of time where they are losing education is unacceptable. A simple letter home suggesting the correct attire the next day is surely more sensible. Ivan Opinion
  • Score: -22

11:22am Fri 27 Jun 14

Lord Spring says...

Sir Retry69 wrote:
Sir Retry69 wrote:
Lord Spring wrote:
vicjoaid wrote:
They did the same in 2010, I agree with the school. When I was at school we had a strict uniform policy and we're sent home if it was wrong. Parents should ensure that children go correctly dressed.
We were not allowed Windsor knots in our ties.
It took nearly a week of tuition from my dad to teach me how to tie a Windsor knot.
I was 5 at the time and I remember daddy saying through gritted teeth,"this knot won't slip" I often thought perhaps he had other things on his mind apart from my appearance .
When I was 6 I had some brown leather football boots (big toe caps) and my father took the studs out and I wore them to school as every day footwear, clothes were on ration talk about a Ragged Ar*ed kid.
[quote][p][bold]Sir Retry69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sir Retry69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lord Spring[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]vicjoaid[/bold] wrote: They did the same in 2010, I agree with the school. When I was at school we had a strict uniform policy and we're sent home if it was wrong. Parents should ensure that children go correctly dressed.[/p][/quote]We were not allowed Windsor knots in our ties.[/p][/quote]It took nearly a week of tuition from my dad to teach me how to tie a Windsor knot.[/p][/quote]I was 5 at the time and I remember daddy saying through gritted teeth,"this knot won't slip" I often thought perhaps he had other things on his mind apart from my appearance .[/p][/quote]When I was 6 I had some brown leather football boots (big toe caps) and my father took the studs out and I wore them to school as every day footwear, clothes were on ration talk about a Ragged Ar*ed kid. Lord Spring
  • Score: 6

11:23am Fri 27 Jun 14

Teddy 1 says...

Marty Caine UKIP wrote:
Carolyn43 wrote:
Firstly, I think peace77 needs to change their screen name - he or she definitely isn't promoting peace.

Quote: Secondly: Samanda Watt, whose 14-year-old daughter was ordered off the premises, said: “I came home from doing the school run and she and her friends were sitting on the pavement revising. There were also crowds of them walking along Castle Lane.” "Crowds of them" when only 15 were turned away? Sounds like a bit of an exaggeration. Could it be that when one was turned away at the gates some of their friends decided to join them? What was attendance like that day?

Thirdly, break one rule and get away with, so break another. Doesn't take long for all discipline to break down. The parents are given a copy of the rules before they accept a place for their child so it's their responsibility to ensure that their child abides by those rules. No use bleating when they're sent home for not abiding to what you agreed to by accepting the place.
It's not like you to miss the point, some have clearly stated here that this new rule of no canvas shoes has just been brought in and the parents were unaware of it. Those shoes pictured look perfectly respectable schools shoes, black with low heel. I for one actually prefer to wear canvas rather than leather, purely for comfort. As someone else quite rightly pointed out it's not like they are wearing trainers or DMs is it.
What happens if leather shoes go against their beliefs - ie vegans?

This will all happen over and over with academies being created...very bad news. Broadstone schools already going down hill with talk of academies...I foresee this happening there too.

Also, what is it with fascination on regulation sweaters with logos on and logos on pe kits....the fact a jumper or rugby top has a logo on doesnt make a student work harder its just more costly for parent and causes issues with kit going missing. Yes, I wholeheartedly agree their is a need uniform in schools but schools need to remember they are educating INDIVIDUALS who need to learn for themselves and make their own decisions if they strive to educate the leaders and entrepreneurs of tomorrow. Finally, schools need to remember children are all different shapes and sizes so as some schools dictating too rigoursly specific trouser and skirt style, you are doing nothing for a childs self confidence and esteem...education is about the whole package not just doing sums etc which is only one part.
[quote][p][bold]Marty Caine UKIP[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Carolyn43[/bold] wrote: Firstly, I think peace77 needs to change their screen name - he or she definitely isn't promoting peace. Quote: Secondly: Samanda Watt, whose 14-year-old daughter was ordered off the premises, said: “I came home from doing the school run and she and her friends were sitting on the pavement revising. There were also crowds of them walking along Castle Lane.” "Crowds of them" when only 15 were turned away? Sounds like a bit of an exaggeration. Could it be that when one was turned away at the gates some of their friends decided to join them? What was attendance like that day? Thirdly, break one rule and get away with, so break another. Doesn't take long for all discipline to break down. The parents are given a copy of the rules before they accept a place for their child so it's their responsibility to ensure that their child abides by those rules. No use bleating when they're sent home for not abiding to what you agreed to by accepting the place.[/p][/quote]It's not like you to miss the point, some have clearly stated here that this new rule of no canvas shoes has just been brought in and the parents were unaware of it. Those shoes pictured look perfectly respectable schools shoes, black with low heel. I for one actually prefer to wear canvas rather than leather, purely for comfort. As someone else quite rightly pointed out it's not like they are wearing trainers or DMs is it.[/p][/quote]What happens if leather shoes go against their beliefs - ie vegans? This will all happen over and over with academies being created...very bad news. Broadstone schools already going down hill with talk of academies...I foresee this happening there too. Also, what is it with fascination on regulation sweaters with logos on and logos on pe kits....the fact a jumper or rugby top has a logo on doesnt make a student work harder its just more costly for parent and causes issues with kit going missing. Yes, I wholeheartedly agree their is a need uniform in schools but schools need to remember they are educating INDIVIDUALS who need to learn for themselves and make their own decisions if they strive to educate the leaders and entrepreneurs of tomorrow. Finally, schools need to remember children are all different shapes and sizes so as some schools dictating too rigoursly specific trouser and skirt style, you are doing nothing for a childs self confidence and esteem...education is about the whole package not just doing sums etc which is only one part. Teddy 1
  • Score: -18

11:23am Fri 27 Jun 14

Teddy 1 says...

Marty Caine UKIP wrote:
Carolyn43 wrote:
Firstly, I think peace77 needs to change their screen name - he or she definitely isn't promoting peace.

Quote: Secondly: Samanda Watt, whose 14-year-old daughter was ordered off the premises, said: “I came home from doing the school run and she and her friends were sitting on the pavement revising. There were also crowds of them walking along Castle Lane.” "Crowds of them" when only 15 were turned away? Sounds like a bit of an exaggeration. Could it be that when one was turned away at the gates some of their friends decided to join them? What was attendance like that day?

Thirdly, break one rule and get away with, so break another. Doesn't take long for all discipline to break down. The parents are given a copy of the rules before they accept a place for their child so it's their responsibility to ensure that their child abides by those rules. No use bleating when they're sent home for not abiding to what you agreed to by accepting the place.
It's not like you to miss the point, some have clearly stated here that this new rule of no canvas shoes has just been brought in and the parents were unaware of it. Those shoes pictured look perfectly respectable schools shoes, black with low heel. I for one actually prefer to wear canvas rather than leather, purely for comfort. As someone else quite rightly pointed out it's not like they are wearing trainers or DMs is it.
What happens if leather shoes go against their beliefs - ie vegans?

This will all happen over and over with academies being created...very bad news. Broadstone schools already going down hill with talk of academies...I foresee this happening there too.

Also, what is it with fascination on regulation sweaters with logos on and logos on pe kits....the fact a jumper or rugby top has a logo on doesnt make a student work harder its just more costly for parent and causes issues with kit going missing. Yes, I wholeheartedly agree their is a need uniform in schools but schools need to remember they are educating INDIVIDUALS who need to learn for themselves and make their own decisions if they strive to educate the leaders and entrepreneurs of tomorrow. Finally, schools need to remember children are all different shapes and sizes so as some schools dictating too rigoursly specific trouser and skirt style, you are doing nothing for a childs self confidence and esteem...education is about the whole package not just doing sums etc which is only one part.
[quote][p][bold]Marty Caine UKIP[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Carolyn43[/bold] wrote: Firstly, I think peace77 needs to change their screen name - he or she definitely isn't promoting peace. Quote: Secondly: Samanda Watt, whose 14-year-old daughter was ordered off the premises, said: “I came home from doing the school run and she and her friends were sitting on the pavement revising. There were also crowds of them walking along Castle Lane.” "Crowds of them" when only 15 were turned away? Sounds like a bit of an exaggeration. Could it be that when one was turned away at the gates some of their friends decided to join them? What was attendance like that day? Thirdly, break one rule and get away with, so break another. Doesn't take long for all discipline to break down. The parents are given a copy of the rules before they accept a place for their child so it's their responsibility to ensure that their child abides by those rules. No use bleating when they're sent home for not abiding to what you agreed to by accepting the place.[/p][/quote]It's not like you to miss the point, some have clearly stated here that this new rule of no canvas shoes has just been brought in and the parents were unaware of it. Those shoes pictured look perfectly respectable schools shoes, black with low heel. I for one actually prefer to wear canvas rather than leather, purely for comfort. As someone else quite rightly pointed out it's not like they are wearing trainers or DMs is it.[/p][/quote]What happens if leather shoes go against their beliefs - ie vegans? This will all happen over and over with academies being created...very bad news. Broadstone schools already going down hill with talk of academies...I foresee this happening there too. Also, what is it with fascination on regulation sweaters with logos on and logos on pe kits....the fact a jumper or rugby top has a logo on doesnt make a student work harder its just more costly for parent and causes issues with kit going missing. Yes, I wholeheartedly agree their is a need uniform in schools but schools need to remember they are educating INDIVIDUALS who need to learn for themselves and make their own decisions if they strive to educate the leaders and entrepreneurs of tomorrow. Finally, schools need to remember children are all different shapes and sizes so as some schools dictating too rigoursly specific trouser and skirt style, you are doing nothing for a childs self confidence and esteem...education is about the whole package not just doing sums etc which is only one part. Teddy 1
  • Score: -15

11:25am Fri 27 Jun 14

The Liberal says...

Ivan Opinion wrote:
Bonkeydollocks wrote:
Good on the school I say and also for 100% sticking to their policy. Hopefully this tough stance will mean all pupils consistently turn up in the correct uniform and their whining parents ensure they are.
Yes - Very True.. But sending a 14 year old home to do so without knowing that child can have safe passage home seems quite wrong. Equally sending a child home, thus ensuring a period of time where they are losing education is unacceptable. A simple letter home suggesting the correct attire the next day is surely more sensible.
Precisely, but it seems that some posters here are more concerned about knocking youngsters down a peg or two rather than applying simple common sense – what a poor, childish example to set.
[quote][p][bold]Ivan Opinion[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bonkeydollocks[/bold] wrote: Good on the school I say and also for 100% sticking to their policy. Hopefully this tough stance will mean all pupils consistently turn up in the correct uniform and their whining parents ensure they are.[/p][/quote]Yes - Very True.. But sending a 14 year old home to do so without knowing that child can have safe passage home seems quite wrong. Equally sending a child home, thus ensuring a period of time where they are losing education is unacceptable. A simple letter home suggesting the correct attire the next day is surely more sensible.[/p][/quote]Precisely, but it seems that some posters here are more concerned about knocking youngsters down a peg or two rather than applying simple common sense – what a poor, childish example to set. The Liberal
  • Score: -14

11:25am Fri 27 Jun 14

Webvision says...

Maybe Mr McKeown is having his period this week, I don't know. But to send kids home for wearing the "wrong type" of shoes is ridiculous. I can understand it if we were taking about trainers but to send a kid home for wearing shoes from the "Clarks kids shoes" range just because they are not completely leather is ludicrous. There are far more important matters of discipline to attend to than this, & you'd think the school would be better to focus on upcoming exams than kids having shoes on which were not leather all over.
Maybe Mr McKeown is having his period this week, I don't know. But to send kids home for wearing the "wrong type" of shoes is ridiculous. I can understand it if we were taking about trainers but to send a kid home for wearing shoes from the "Clarks kids shoes" range just because they are not completely leather is ludicrous. There are far more important matters of discipline to attend to than this, & you'd think the school would be better to focus on upcoming exams than kids having shoes on which were not leather all over. Webvision
  • Score: -23

11:28am Fri 27 Jun 14

Carolyn43 says...

I haven't missed the point. As Hadvar says it was previously changed on St Georges Day and now looks the same. All that "last modified" means is that it was saved on that day, which is something I do every time I look at a document - I don't change it, but I resave it in exactly the same form as it was. It doesn't mean that the school uniform policy has been changed at all - just that the document was re-saved on 27 June. Do you really think a school would change it's uniform policy without notifying the parents in writing? I don't.
I haven't missed the point. As Hadvar says it was previously changed on St Georges Day and now looks the same. All that "last modified" means is that it was saved on that day, which is something I do every time I look at a document - I don't change it, but I resave it in exactly the same form as it was. It doesn't mean that the school uniform policy has been changed at all - just that the document was re-saved on 27 June. Do you really think a school would change it's uniform policy without notifying the parents in writing? I don't. Carolyn43
  • Score: 18

11:32am Fri 27 Jun 14

BournemouthDan says...

Seems a lot of comments about children needing safe portage home.

The majority of children in secondary school walk to and from school on their own and have their own house keys.

I'm sure they were not found at the corner of castle point begging for food and water.
Seems a lot of comments about children needing safe portage home. The majority of children in secondary school walk to and from school on their own and have their own house keys. I'm sure they were not found at the corner of castle point begging for food and water. BournemouthDan
  • Score: 26

11:36am Fri 27 Jun 14

The Liberal says...

On the other hand, it does seem that the uniform rules haven't changed recently. A look back at previous versions of the school website (via the Wayback Machine) reveals the phrase 'No trainers, boots or canvas shoes’ has been present since at least September 2012.
On the other hand, it does seem that the uniform rules haven't changed recently. A look back at previous versions of the school website (via the Wayback Machine) reveals the phrase 'No trainers, boots or canvas shoes’ has been present since at least September 2012. The Liberal
  • Score: 25

11:37am Fri 27 Jun 14

Carolyn43 says...

A lot of people can't tell the difference between real leather and synthetic leather, so I don't really think vegans or the school would have a problem with synthetic leather shoes. But whatever you do, you can't make canvass or any other woven, knitted fabric look like leather. I suspect they're just sensibly concerned that the children's growing feet are properly supported which will avoid problems later in life.
A lot of people can't tell the difference between real leather and synthetic leather, so I don't really think vegans or the school would have a problem with synthetic leather shoes. But whatever you do, you can't make canvass or any other woven, knitted fabric look like leather. I suspect they're just sensibly concerned that the children's growing feet are properly supported which will avoid problems later in life. Carolyn43
  • Score: 16

11:48am Fri 27 Jun 14

elite50 says...

Sir Retry69 wrote:
Sir Retry69 wrote:
Lord Spring wrote:
vicjoaid wrote:
They did the same in 2010, I agree with the school. When I was at school we had a strict uniform policy and we're sent home if it was wrong. Parents should ensure that children go correctly dressed.
We were not allowed Windsor knots in our ties.
It took nearly a week of tuition from my dad to teach me how to tie a Windsor knot.
I was 5 at the time and I remember daddy saying through gritted teeth,"this knot won't slip" I often thought perhaps he had other things on his mind apart from my appearance .
It appears the doubts that he had about you were right!
Almost "well done" Mr. retry 68!!!
[quote][p][bold]Sir Retry69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sir Retry69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lord Spring[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]vicjoaid[/bold] wrote: They did the same in 2010, I agree with the school. When I was at school we had a strict uniform policy and we're sent home if it was wrong. Parents should ensure that children go correctly dressed.[/p][/quote]We were not allowed Windsor knots in our ties.[/p][/quote]It took nearly a week of tuition from my dad to teach me how to tie a Windsor knot.[/p][/quote]I was 5 at the time and I remember daddy saying through gritted teeth,"this knot won't slip" I often thought perhaps he had other things on his mind apart from my appearance .[/p][/quote]It appears the doubts that he had about you were right! Almost "well done" Mr. retry 68!!! elite50
  • Score: 2

11:58am Fri 27 Jun 14

retry69 says...

elite50 wrote:
Sir Retry69 wrote:
Sir Retry69 wrote:
Lord Spring wrote:
vicjoaid wrote:
They did the same in 2010, I agree with the school. When I was at school we had a strict uniform policy and we're sent home if it was wrong. Parents should ensure that children go correctly dressed.
We were not allowed Windsor knots in our ties.
It took nearly a week of tuition from my dad to teach me how to tie a Windsor knot.
I was 5 at the time and I remember daddy saying through gritted teeth,"this knot won't slip" I often thought perhaps he had other things on his mind apart from my appearance .
It appears the doubts that he had about you were right!
Almost "well done" Mr. retry 68!!!
Very droll, it appears you have a sense of humour,I hope GULP :)!
[quote][p][bold]elite50[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sir Retry69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sir Retry69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lord Spring[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]vicjoaid[/bold] wrote: They did the same in 2010, I agree with the school. When I was at school we had a strict uniform policy and we're sent home if it was wrong. Parents should ensure that children go correctly dressed.[/p][/quote]We were not allowed Windsor knots in our ties.[/p][/quote]It took nearly a week of tuition from my dad to teach me how to tie a Windsor knot.[/p][/quote]I was 5 at the time and I remember daddy saying through gritted teeth,"this knot won't slip" I often thought perhaps he had other things on his mind apart from my appearance .[/p][/quote]It appears the doubts that he had about you were right! Almost "well done" Mr. retry 68!!![/p][/quote]Very droll, it appears you have a sense of humour,I hope GULP :)! retry69
  • Score: 3

12:08pm Fri 27 Jun 14

MrPitiful says...

Marty Caine UKIP wrote:
MrPitiful wrote:
It was only a few years ago that this newspaper was reporting incidences of bad behaviour, truancy, poor results and giving a general bad outlook for this school.

Everyone was slating the school and the reasons being highlighted were poor leadership and lack of discipline.

Then in comes a head-teacher who seemingly turns things around. He starts off by going "back to basics" and as far as possible, continues these basics until everyone is heading in the same direction.

One of these basics is uniform. Others include punctuality, respect for others, work completed satisfactorily and on time. These aren't too much to ask for - just basic expectations of not only a school, but work and life in general.

Then when a few parents fail to abide by these expectations - and I say parents, not students because it is the parents' responsibility - the headteacher and school gets berated.

Simple as this - when you enrol your child at school you are given a set of rules and regs you agree to as part of your child going there. Some you like, some you don't but you agree to them, including uniform.

I wish our eldest daughter had gone to this school.
So what you are saying is that if you had agreed to the school rules and then someone suddenly decided to change those rules which resulted in your child wandering the streets because she had not been allowed into the school, whilst you were busy at work. You would be more than happy about that?

That appears to be the case here, which sensible parents are quite rightly upset about and it is that point that so many on here seem to be missing.
Sorry for the delay in reply Marti Caine UKIp - I wanted to do a little research of my own through aneighbour whose son goes to this school.

Fristly, the school hasn't changed the rules regarding the required uniform. Apparently, from the handbook my neighbour was given in July 2012 when his son started there, it clearly states the nature of shoes permitted for both boys and girls along with the nature of shoes not permitted.

In fact, it is very similar in wording to the requirements of our daughter's school so all local schools must be uniform in their requirements, if you pardon the pun.

So to answer your question, had my child missed out on their education due to a rule change which I had not been informed about, then yes, as a "sensible parent" - as you put it - I would not have been happy.

However, in this case, the parents have sent the children to school wearing incorrect uniform and the headmaster has taken action which is in his right to do so.

I would also point out my neighour states that at least once a year the school concerned sends communications to parents advising them of uniform checks and the actions taken if the children aren't wearing the agreed uniform.

I think the point that many, including yourself - are missing is that parents and the school both agree at the start what the uniform requirements are, along with the school's line of recourse if this and other requirements aren't met. Subsequently, there is no point in the parents complaining further down the line when such action is taken.
[quote][p][bold]Marty Caine UKIP[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MrPitiful[/bold] wrote: It was only a few years ago that this newspaper was reporting incidences of bad behaviour, truancy, poor results and giving a general bad outlook for this school. Everyone was slating the school and the reasons being highlighted were poor leadership and lack of discipline. Then in comes a head-teacher who seemingly turns things around. He starts off by going "back to basics" and as far as possible, continues these basics until everyone is heading in the same direction. One of these basics is uniform. Others include punctuality, respect for others, work completed satisfactorily and on time. These aren't too much to ask for - just basic expectations of not only a school, but work and life in general. Then when a few parents fail to abide by these expectations - and I say parents, not students because it is the parents' responsibility - the headteacher and school gets berated. Simple as this - when you enrol your child at school you are given a set of rules and regs you agree to as part of your child going there. Some you like, some you don't but you agree to them, including uniform. I wish our eldest daughter had gone to this school.[/p][/quote]So what you are saying is that if you had agreed to the school rules and then someone suddenly decided to change those rules which resulted in your child wandering the streets because she had not been allowed into the school, whilst you were busy at work. You would be more than happy about that? That appears to be the case here, which sensible parents are quite rightly upset about and it is that point that so many on here seem to be missing.[/p][/quote]Sorry for the delay in reply Marti Caine UKIp - I wanted to do a little research of my own through aneighbour whose son goes to this school. Fristly, the school hasn't changed the rules regarding the required uniform. Apparently, from the handbook my neighbour was given in July 2012 when his son started there, it clearly states the nature of shoes permitted for both boys and girls along with the nature of shoes not permitted. In fact, it is very similar in wording to the requirements of our daughter's school so all local schools must be uniform in their requirements, if you pardon the pun. So to answer your question, had my child missed out on their education due to a rule change which I had not been informed about, then yes, as a "sensible parent" - as you put it - I would not have been happy. However, in this case, the parents have sent the children to school wearing incorrect uniform and the headmaster has taken action which is in his right to do so. I would also point out my neighour states that at least once a year the school concerned sends communications to parents advising them of uniform checks and the actions taken if the children aren't wearing the agreed uniform. I think the point that many, including yourself - are missing is that parents and the school both agree at the start what the uniform requirements are, along with the school's line of recourse if this and other requirements aren't met. Subsequently, there is no point in the parents complaining further down the line when such action is taken. MrPitiful
  • Score: 28

12:14pm Fri 27 Jun 14

MrPitiful says...

Marty Caine UKIP wrote:
MrPitiful wrote:
It was only a few years ago that this newspaper was reporting incidences of bad behaviour, truancy, poor results and giving a general bad outlook for this school.

Everyone was slating the school and the reasons being highlighted were poor leadership and lack of discipline.

Then in comes a head-teacher who seemingly turns things around. He starts off by going "back to basics" and as far as possible, continues these basics until everyone is heading in the same direction.

One of these basics is uniform. Others include punctuality, respect for others, work completed satisfactorily and on time. These aren't too much to ask for - just basic expectations of not only a school, but work and life in general.

Then when a few parents fail to abide by these expectations - and I say parents, not students because it is the parents' responsibility - the headteacher and school gets berated.

Simple as this - when you enrol your child at school you are given a set of rules and regs you agree to as part of your child going there. Some you like, some you don't but you agree to them, including uniform.

I wish our eldest daughter had gone to this school.
So what you are saying is that if you had agreed to the school rules and then someone suddenly decided to change those rules which resulted in your child wandering the streets because she had not been allowed into the school, whilst you were busy at work. You would be more than happy about that?

That appears to be the case here, which sensible parents are quite rightly upset about and it is that point that so many on here seem to be missing.
Sorry for the delay in reply Marti Caine UKIp - I wanted to do a little research of my own through aneighbour whose son goes to this school.

Fristly, the school hasn't changed the rules regarding the required uniform. Apparently, from the handbook my neighbour was given in July 2012 when his son started there, it clearly states the nature of shoes permitted for both boys and girls along with the nature of shoes not permitted.

In fact, it is very similar in wording to the requirements of our daughter's school so all local schools must be uniform in their requirements, if you pardon the pun.

So to answer your question, had my child missed out on their education due to a rule change which I had not been informed about, then yes, as a "sensible parent" - as you put it - I would not have been happy.

However, in this case, the parents have sent the children to school wearing incorrect uniform and the headmaster has taken action which is in his right to do so.

I would also point out my neighour states that at least once a year the school concerned sends communications to parents advising them of uniform checks and the actions taken if the children aren't wearing the agreed uniform. So a simple warning letter home doesn't work as parents either ignore them or don't receive them.

I think the point that many, including yourself - are missing is that parents and the school both agree at the start what the uniform requirements are, along with the school's line of recourse if this and other requirements aren't met. Subsequently, there is no point in the parents complaining further down the line when such action is taken.
[quote][p][bold]Marty Caine UKIP[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MrPitiful[/bold] wrote: It was only a few years ago that this newspaper was reporting incidences of bad behaviour, truancy, poor results and giving a general bad outlook for this school. Everyone was slating the school and the reasons being highlighted were poor leadership and lack of discipline. Then in comes a head-teacher who seemingly turns things around. He starts off by going "back to basics" and as far as possible, continues these basics until everyone is heading in the same direction. One of these basics is uniform. Others include punctuality, respect for others, work completed satisfactorily and on time. These aren't too much to ask for - just basic expectations of not only a school, but work and life in general. Then when a few parents fail to abide by these expectations - and I say parents, not students because it is the parents' responsibility - the headteacher and school gets berated. Simple as this - when you enrol your child at school you are given a set of rules and regs you agree to as part of your child going there. Some you like, some you don't but you agree to them, including uniform. I wish our eldest daughter had gone to this school.[/p][/quote]So what you are saying is that if you had agreed to the school rules and then someone suddenly decided to change those rules which resulted in your child wandering the streets because she had not been allowed into the school, whilst you were busy at work. You would be more than happy about that? That appears to be the case here, which sensible parents are quite rightly upset about and it is that point that so many on here seem to be missing.[/p][/quote]Sorry for the delay in reply Marti Caine UKIp - I wanted to do a little research of my own through aneighbour whose son goes to this school. Fristly, the school hasn't changed the rules regarding the required uniform. Apparently, from the handbook my neighbour was given in July 2012 when his son started there, it clearly states the nature of shoes permitted for both boys and girls along with the nature of shoes not permitted. In fact, it is very similar in wording to the requirements of our daughter's school so all local schools must be uniform in their requirements, if you pardon the pun. So to answer your question, had my child missed out on their education due to a rule change which I had not been informed about, then yes, as a "sensible parent" - as you put it - I would not have been happy. However, in this case, the parents have sent the children to school wearing incorrect uniform and the headmaster has taken action which is in his right to do so. I would also point out my neighour states that at least once a year the school concerned sends communications to parents advising them of uniform checks and the actions taken if the children aren't wearing the agreed uniform. So a simple warning letter home doesn't work as parents either ignore them or don't receive them. I think the point that many, including yourself - are missing is that parents and the school both agree at the start what the uniform requirements are, along with the school's line of recourse if this and other requirements aren't met. Subsequently, there is no point in the parents complaining further down the line when such action is taken. MrPitiful
  • Score: 14

12:19pm Fri 27 Jun 14

bogtrotter says...

I think they should be expelled for trying to gain sympathetic publicity and also attempting to bring down the name of the school and headteacher who are merely trying to set standards that will help the students out in later life.
I think they should be expelled for trying to gain sympathetic publicity and also attempting to bring down the name of the school and headteacher who are merely trying to set standards that will help the students out in later life. bogtrotter
  • Score: 16

12:22pm Fri 27 Jun 14

Pasiphae says...

I'm just mystified how anyone can think a pair of plimsoles are appropriate school shoes; rules or not! No support, no grip, no protection and virtually no impact protection for all day wear? Most schools don't even have plimsoles as PE kit anymore for those reasons, so it stands to reason that they are viewed by the school as inappropriate footwear.
I'm just mystified how anyone can think a pair of plimsoles are appropriate school shoes; rules or not! No support, no grip, no protection and virtually no impact protection for all day wear? Most schools don't even have plimsoles as PE kit anymore for those reasons, so it stands to reason that they are viewed by the school as inappropriate footwear. Pasiphae
  • Score: 17

12:33pm Fri 27 Jun 14

Gingertree says...

I would hazard a guess that all pupils sent home have been warned before about their shoes Also one of the girls is wearing nail varnish which I dare say is against the rules too
I would hazard a guess that all pupils sent home have been warned before about their shoes Also one of the girls is wearing nail varnish which I dare say is against the rules too Gingertree
  • Score: 15

1:06pm Fri 27 Jun 14

elite50 says...

retry69 wrote:
elite50 wrote:
Sir Retry69 wrote:
Sir Retry69 wrote:
Lord Spring wrote:
vicjoaid wrote:
They did the same in 2010, I agree with the school. When I was at school we had a strict uniform policy and we're sent home if it was wrong. Parents should ensure that children go correctly dressed.
We were not allowed Windsor knots in our ties.
It took nearly a week of tuition from my dad to teach me how to tie a Windsor knot.
I was 5 at the time and I remember daddy saying through gritted teeth,"this knot won't slip" I often thought perhaps he had other things on his mind apart from my appearance .
It appears the doubts that he had about you were right!
Almost "well done" Mr. retry 68!!!
Very droll, it appears you have a sense of humour,I hope GULP :)!
Get your dad to try again.
Please!!!
[quote][p][bold]retry69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]elite50[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sir Retry69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sir Retry69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lord Spring[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]vicjoaid[/bold] wrote: They did the same in 2010, I agree with the school. When I was at school we had a strict uniform policy and we're sent home if it was wrong. Parents should ensure that children go correctly dressed.[/p][/quote]We were not allowed Windsor knots in our ties.[/p][/quote]It took nearly a week of tuition from my dad to teach me how to tie a Windsor knot.[/p][/quote]I was 5 at the time and I remember daddy saying through gritted teeth,"this knot won't slip" I often thought perhaps he had other things on his mind apart from my appearance .[/p][/quote]It appears the doubts that he had about you were right! Almost "well done" Mr. retry 68!!![/p][/quote]Very droll, it appears you have a sense of humour,I hope GULP :)![/p][/quote]Get your dad to try again. Please!!! elite50
  • Score: 1

1:08pm Fri 27 Jun 14

RachaelHP4 says...

In all walks of life we have rules. We choose to accept them and there are no consequences. If you choose to break them, accept the consequences. The parents know the school uniform and therefore should not break them. They are showing their children that if you don't like the rules then break them. What happens when they get to work? The boss tells them to do something and because they don't like it, they refuse to do it; someone says the wrong thing to them and they break the law? Where does it end? Start doing the right thing when they are young and you will have responsible caring adults.
In all walks of life we have rules. We choose to accept them and there are no consequences. If you choose to break them, accept the consequences. The parents know the school uniform and therefore should not break them. They are showing their children that if you don't like the rules then break them. What happens when they get to work? The boss tells them to do something and because they don't like it, they refuse to do it; someone says the wrong thing to them and they break the law? Where does it end? Start doing the right thing when they are young and you will have responsible caring adults. RachaelHP4
  • Score: 18

1:10pm Fri 27 Jun 14

retry69 says...

elite50 wrote:
retry69 wrote:
elite50 wrote:
Sir Retry69 wrote:
Sir Retry69 wrote:
Lord Spring wrote:
vicjoaid wrote:
They did the same in 2010, I agree with the school. When I was at school we had a strict uniform policy and we're sent home if it was wrong. Parents should ensure that children go correctly dressed.
We were not allowed Windsor knots in our ties.
It took nearly a week of tuition from my dad to teach me how to tie a Windsor knot.
I was 5 at the time and I remember daddy saying through gritted teeth,"this knot won't slip" I often thought perhaps he had other things on his mind apart from my appearance .
It appears the doubts that he had about you were right!
Almost "well done" Mr. retry 68!!!
Very droll, it appears you have a sense of humour,I hope GULP :)!
Get your dad to try again.
Please!!!
Gone on to better things,I hope,but thanks for caring :)
[quote][p][bold]elite50[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]retry69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]elite50[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sir Retry69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sir Retry69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lord Spring[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]vicjoaid[/bold] wrote: They did the same in 2010, I agree with the school. When I was at school we had a strict uniform policy and we're sent home if it was wrong. Parents should ensure that children go correctly dressed.[/p][/quote]We were not allowed Windsor knots in our ties.[/p][/quote]It took nearly a week of tuition from my dad to teach me how to tie a Windsor knot.[/p][/quote]I was 5 at the time and I remember daddy saying through gritted teeth,"this knot won't slip" I often thought perhaps he had other things on his mind apart from my appearance .[/p][/quote]It appears the doubts that he had about you were right! Almost "well done" Mr. retry 68!!![/p][/quote]Very droll, it appears you have a sense of humour,I hope GULP :)![/p][/quote]Get your dad to try again. Please!!![/p][/quote]Gone on to better things,I hope,but thanks for caring :) retry69
  • Score: 4

1:21pm Fri 27 Jun 14

Kat129 says...

The uniform requirements are also printed in the front of the homework diary that every child is issued with at the start of the school year. Both my children go to TBOWA and it has always been made clear what the uniform and shoe requirements were. The rules haven't changed.
The uniform requirements are also printed in the front of the homework diary that every child is issued with at the start of the school year. Both my children go to TBOWA and it has always been made clear what the uniform and shoe requirements were. The rules haven't changed. Kat129
  • Score: 23

1:21pm Fri 27 Jun 14

PokesdownMark says...

The actual school uniform policy for girls shoes says:

Black, leather type, formal shoes; flat or with a low heel.

It goes on to exclude:

No trainers, boots or canvas shoes.

So to exclude the shoes held up in the photo seems very picky to me. Was it because they a canvas-like? Hard to tell from the photo. But really.... Come on... This isn't about preparing kids for the work place at all. They should admit they got it wrong. That WOULD be an example for the children to follow!
The actual school uniform policy for girls shoes says: Black, leather type, formal shoes; flat or with a low heel. It goes on to exclude: No trainers, boots or canvas shoes. So to exclude the shoes held up in the photo seems very picky to me. Was it because they a canvas-like? Hard to tell from the photo. But really.... Come on... This isn't about preparing kids for the work place at all. They should admit they got it wrong. That WOULD be an example for the children to follow! PokesdownMark
  • Score: -21

1:34pm Fri 27 Jun 14

Gingertree says...

PokesdownMark wrote:
The actual school uniform policy for girls shoes says:

Black, leather type, formal shoes; flat or with a low heel.

It goes on to exclude:

No trainers, boots or canvas shoes.

So to exclude the shoes held up in the photo seems very picky to me. Was it because they a canvas-like? Hard to tell from the photo. But really.... Come on... This isn't about preparing kids for the work place at all. They should admit they got it wrong. That WOULD be an example for the children to follow!
No actually sticking to the uniform dress code will prepare them for the work place I work in the care sector and quite rightly we have a strict uniform policy So when these two end up flipping burgers in McDonalds they'll have a uniform there too
[quote][p][bold]PokesdownMark[/bold] wrote: The actual school uniform policy for girls shoes says: Black, leather type, formal shoes; flat or with a low heel. It goes on to exclude: No trainers, boots or canvas shoes. So to exclude the shoes held up in the photo seems very picky to me. Was it because they a canvas-like? Hard to tell from the photo. But really.... Come on... This isn't about preparing kids for the work place at all. They should admit they got it wrong. That WOULD be an example for the children to follow![/p][/quote]No actually sticking to the uniform dress code will prepare them for the work place I work in the care sector and quite rightly we have a strict uniform policy So when these two end up flipping burgers in McDonalds they'll have a uniform there too Gingertree
  • Score: 15

1:45pm Fri 27 Jun 14

UbelievableJeff says...

Pathetic response from the parents expecting someone else to take responsibility for their children. If there is a policy around uniform and compliance then it will include the repercussions if failing to comply, in this instance being asked to go home and change.
Pathetic response from the parents expecting someone else to take responsibility for their children. If there is a policy around uniform and compliance then it will include the repercussions if failing to comply, in this instance being asked to go home and change. UbelievableJeff
  • Score: 24

1:50pm Fri 27 Jun 14

AFCB2306 says...

kalebmoledirt wrote:
peace77 wrote:
kalebmoledirt wrote:
Darren if your going to go out and have your pic taken,get your wife to dress you , nasty wooly
Oh someone so mature here atleast he has a wife and atleast he's there with his girls get a life freak
Peace 77 sorry your having a bad day ,relax.Making personnel remark doesn't help .it brings attention to your bad grammar now write something nice a little poem may help you mmmmmmnnnnnnnnn peace
kalebmoledirt If you are going to act like the grammar police, please ensure the grammar you use is correct. " sorry YOUR having a bad day" should read sorry YOU'RE having....... obviously not in capital letters, just highlighting it for you.
Also " Making personnel remark" ???? I assume you mean making personal remarks.
Your welcome ha ha just kidding, you're welcome.
[quote][p][bold]kalebmoledirt[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]peace77[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kalebmoledirt[/bold] wrote: Darren if your going to go out and have your pic taken,get your wife to dress you , nasty wooly[/p][/quote]Oh someone so mature here atleast he has a wife and atleast he's there with his girls get a life freak[/p][/quote]Peace 77 sorry your having a bad day ,relax.Making personnel remark doesn't help .it brings attention to your bad grammar now write something nice a little poem may help you mmmmmmnnnnnnnnn peace[/p][/quote]kalebmoledirt If you are going to act like the grammar police, please ensure the grammar you use is correct. " sorry YOUR having a bad day" should read sorry YOU'RE having....... obviously not in capital letters, just highlighting it for you. Also " Making personnel remark" ???? I assume you mean making personal remarks. Your welcome ha ha just kidding, you're welcome. AFCB2306
  • Score: 11

2:02pm Fri 27 Jun 14

echor23 says...

mudefordguy wrote:
echor23 wrote:
Whilst I support the head in doing uniform checks and disciplining students without the correct unifrom as he is evidently trying to promote a healthy and good ethos within the school info find it quite barbaric that children were sent home alone to change!
They should have all had their parents called to come and collect them safely or be reprimanded by detention or otherwise.
What position would the head be in now should one of those children been knocked over, attacked or even kidnapped?
We leave our children at home under the safe knowledge that they are in that vicinity for the entire day, within those walls and safe from the outside world. Has this been my own child I would take this legally as had I found my own child wandering the streets with no bus fare I'm not sure I would feel comfortable with them entering the school again.
Parents would have been told the policy when sending their kids there. Don't like it? Think you know better? Send the kids somewhere else.
Err no I don't know better and my kids don't go to that school! I actually moved to get my children into a superb school! I'm simply stating that I'm sure the parents and children so know better and I'm not supporting the misuse of uniform but I disagree that kids were sent home alone as I find this acutely unsafe! I know better than to allow a child to wander the streets alone!
[quote][p][bold]mudefordguy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]echor23[/bold] wrote: Whilst I support the head in doing uniform checks and disciplining students without the correct unifrom as he is evidently trying to promote a healthy and good ethos within the school info find it quite barbaric that children were sent home alone to change! They should have all had their parents called to come and collect them safely or be reprimanded by detention or otherwise. What position would the head be in now should one of those children been knocked over, attacked or even kidnapped? We leave our children at home under the safe knowledge that they are in that vicinity for the entire day, within those walls and safe from the outside world. Has this been my own child I would take this legally as had I found my own child wandering the streets with no bus fare I'm not sure I would feel comfortable with them entering the school again.[/p][/quote]Parents would have been told the policy when sending their kids there. Don't like it? Think you know better? Send the kids somewhere else.[/p][/quote]Err no I don't know better and my kids don't go to that school! I actually moved to get my children into a superb school! I'm simply stating that I'm sure the parents and children so know better and I'm not supporting the misuse of uniform but I disagree that kids were sent home alone as I find this acutely unsafe! I know better than to allow a child to wander the streets alone! echor23
  • Score: -13

2:08pm Fri 27 Jun 14

echor23 says...

BarrHumbug wrote:
echor23 wrote:
Whilst I support the head in doing uniform checks and disciplining students without the correct unifrom as he is evidently trying to promote a healthy and good ethos within the school info find it quite barbaric that children were sent home alone to change!
They should have all had their parents called to come and collect them safely or be reprimanded by detention or otherwise.
What position would the head be in now should one of those children been knocked over, attacked or even kidnapped?
We leave our children at home under the safe knowledge that they are in that vicinity for the entire day, within those walls and safe from the outside world. Has this been my own child I would take this legally as had I found my own child wandering the streets with no bus fare I'm not sure I would feel comfortable with them entering the school again.
What if a meteor had landed on their head whilst in the play ground or what if they had been struck by lightening, or what if they come into contact with another child who hadn't washed their hands after going to the toilet. Oh the horror of it all, I think you should take your own child out of school now before its too late, by allowing them to leave the house you yourself are putting them in immortal danger, how can you live with yourself?

Oh and while your contemplating what an irresponsible parent you have been you'd better get the Detol out and give those surfaces another wipe down because they're dirtier than a toilet seat you know ;)
Actually your comment is disgusting and clearly you don't have children and if you do then god help them! You are so ignorant to believe I am over reacting when I'm simply stating when a decent parent leaves their child at the school gates then they expect their children to be within those four walls throughout the day! Nothing more nothing less! Clearly you don't agree with that but there again this is exactly why we moved our children to be in decent areas with decent schools and decent educated people!!!
[quote][p][bold]BarrHumbug[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]echor23[/bold] wrote: Whilst I support the head in doing uniform checks and disciplining students without the correct unifrom as he is evidently trying to promote a healthy and good ethos within the school info find it quite barbaric that children were sent home alone to change! They should have all had their parents called to come and collect them safely or be reprimanded by detention or otherwise. What position would the head be in now should one of those children been knocked over, attacked or even kidnapped? We leave our children at home under the safe knowledge that they are in that vicinity for the entire day, within those walls and safe from the outside world. Has this been my own child I would take this legally as had I found my own child wandering the streets with no bus fare I'm not sure I would feel comfortable with them entering the school again.[/p][/quote]What if a meteor had landed on their head whilst in the play ground or what if they had been struck by lightening, or what if they come into contact with another child who hadn't washed their hands after going to the toilet. Oh the horror of it all, I think you should take your own child out of school now before its too late, by allowing them to leave the house you yourself are putting them in immortal danger, how can you live with yourself? Oh and while your contemplating what an irresponsible parent you have been you'd better get the Detol out and give those surfaces another wipe down because they're dirtier than a toilet seat you know ;)[/p][/quote]Actually your comment is disgusting and clearly you don't have children and if you do then god help them! You are so ignorant to believe I am over reacting when I'm simply stating when a decent parent leaves their child at the school gates then they expect their children to be within those four walls throughout the day! Nothing more nothing less! Clearly you don't agree with that but there again this is exactly why we moved our children to be in decent areas with decent schools and decent educated people!!! echor23
  • Score: -15

2:11pm Fri 27 Jun 14

Baysider says...

This thread is comedy gold for so many reasons. I take it back, thank you Echo.
This thread is comedy gold for so many reasons. I take it back, thank you Echo. Baysider
  • Score: 19

2:27pm Fri 27 Jun 14

new2it says...

Mr Mckeown has worked wonders at that school. From being a failing school it is now one of the most popular in Bournemouth. It his his strict discipline which has brought this about. 3 of my grandchildren have done through that school with excellent results, a 4th is doing well and a 5th is due to start in September, my daughter being delighted that he will be able to follow his 2 brothers. If a school has certain standards that are not adhered too, then don't moan about it if your child falls foul of them
Mr Mckeown has worked wonders at that school. From being a failing school it is now one of the most popular in Bournemouth. It his his strict discipline which has brought this about. 3 of my grandchildren have done through that school with excellent results, a 4th is doing well and a 5th is due to start in September, my daughter being delighted that he will be able to follow his 2 brothers. If a school has certain standards that are not adhered too, then don't moan about it if your child falls foul of them new2it
  • Score: 18

2:42pm Fri 27 Jun 14

new2it says...

Further to my above post, I believe a number of pupils have not been allocated places there in September. May I suggest that those parents who don't agree with his high standards remove their children and send them to a school where it is more lax, and let the children who would really appreciate going there have their places?
Further to my above post, I believe a number of pupils have not been allocated places there in September. May I suggest that those parents who don't agree with his high standards remove their children and send them to a school where it is more lax, and let the children who would really appreciate going there have their places? new2it
  • Score: 18

3:12pm Fri 27 Jun 14

kalebmoledirt says...

What if they Don,t want to go into law or medicine ,perhaps it would be acceptable if those wanting to be engineers wear steel toe capped boots and overalls.be interesting to see those wanting to be soldiers or deep sea divers
What if they Don,t want to go into law or medicine ,perhaps it would be acceptable if those wanting to be engineers wear steel toe capped boots and overalls.be interesting to see those wanting to be soldiers or deep sea divers kalebmoledirt
  • Score: -3

3:20pm Fri 27 Jun 14

ontheside says...

What the school forgot to say was it was actually 57 sent home on Thursday instead of 15 and someone even got sent home for having a can of hairspray in their bag. They didn't call anyone's parent until about 1pm/12 AND there is NO WAY WHATSOEVER a 'uniform check' every week or even every month. They've made may students buy new shoes, when those shoes have been fine since September, when many parents cant afford it and there is only 3 weeks left and even 1 week left for Year 10 students.
What the school forgot to say was it was actually 57 sent home on Thursday instead of 15 and someone even got sent home for having a can of hairspray in their bag. They didn't call anyone's parent until about 1pm/12 AND there is NO WAY WHATSOEVER a 'uniform check' every week or even every month. They've made may students buy new shoes, when those shoes have been fine since September, when many parents cant afford it and there is only 3 weeks left and even 1 week left for Year 10 students. ontheside
  • Score: -13

3:22pm Fri 27 Jun 14

codeydbw says...

People really shouldn't comment on things where they have no idea what is going on...
People really shouldn't comment on things where they have no idea what is going on... codeydbw
  • Score: 3

3:34pm Fri 27 Jun 14

ontheside says...

Marty Caine UKIP wrote:
Carolyn43 wrote:
Firstly, I think peace77 needs to change their screen name - he or she definitely isn't promoting peace.

Quote: Secondly: Samanda Watt, whose 14-year-old daughter was ordered off the premises, said: “I came home from doing the school run and she and her friends were sitting on the pavement revising. There were also crowds of them walking along Castle Lane.” "Crowds of them" when only 15 were turned away? Sounds like a bit of an exaggeration. Could it be that when one was turned away at the gates some of their friends decided to join them? What was attendance like that day?

Thirdly, break one rule and get away with, so break another. Doesn't take long for all discipline to break down. The parents are given a copy of the rules before they accept a place for their child so it's their responsibility to ensure that their child abides by those rules. No use bleating when they're sent home for not abiding to what you agreed to by accepting the place.
It's not like you to miss the point, some have clearly stated here that this new rule of no canvas shoes has just been brought in and the parents were unaware of it. Those shoes pictured look perfectly respectable schools shoes, black with low heel. I for one actually prefer to wear canvas rather than leather, purely for comfort. As someone else quite rightly pointed out it's not like they are wearing trainers or DMs is it.
There was 57 turned away, so there probably were 'crowds of students'
[quote][p][bold]Marty Caine UKIP[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Carolyn43[/bold] wrote: Firstly, I think peace77 needs to change their screen name - he or she definitely isn't promoting peace. Quote: Secondly: Samanda Watt, whose 14-year-old daughter was ordered off the premises, said: “I came home from doing the school run and she and her friends were sitting on the pavement revising. There were also crowds of them walking along Castle Lane.” "Crowds of them" when only 15 were turned away? Sounds like a bit of an exaggeration. Could it be that when one was turned away at the gates some of their friends decided to join them? What was attendance like that day? Thirdly, break one rule and get away with, so break another. Doesn't take long for all discipline to break down. The parents are given a copy of the rules before they accept a place for their child so it's their responsibility to ensure that their child abides by those rules. No use bleating when they're sent home for not abiding to what you agreed to by accepting the place.[/p][/quote]It's not like you to miss the point, some have clearly stated here that this new rule of no canvas shoes has just been brought in and the parents were unaware of it. Those shoes pictured look perfectly respectable schools shoes, black with low heel. I for one actually prefer to wear canvas rather than leather, purely for comfort. As someone else quite rightly pointed out it's not like they are wearing trainers or DMs is it.[/p][/quote]There was 57 turned away, so there probably were 'crowds of students' ontheside
  • Score: -6

3:55pm Fri 27 Jun 14

Immortal_light says...

I have just departed from this school and some of the uniform standards I have to agree with, however to those who have not been to or in the school it is difficult to understand. Some uniform that is worn fits exactly within the regulations, but there are some things that they are picky about.
From the inside that school is EXTREMELY different form what the press says it is DO NOT be fooled by it. I personally loved it there and had a amazing time, the teachers are amazing, the students are good (most of the time) but the one thing I do not agree as much with is the mind set of the academy leadership teams mind sets. but apart form small issues it is a lovely school.
I have just departed from this school and some of the uniform standards I have to agree with, however to those who have not been to or in the school it is difficult to understand. Some uniform that is worn fits exactly within the regulations, but there are some things that they are picky about. From the inside that school is EXTREMELY different form what the press says it is DO NOT be fooled by it. I personally loved it there and had a amazing time, the teachers are amazing, the students are good (most of the time) but the one thing I do not agree as much with is the mind set of the academy leadership teams mind sets. but apart form small issues it is a lovely school. Immortal_light
  • Score: 4

3:59pm Fri 27 Jun 14

Immortal_light says...

user_name wrote:
love the parents comment 'I came home from doing the school run and she and her friends were sitting on the pavement revising'. Is that really true, or just put in to make her sound like a perfect committed student that has been wronged?
No disrespect to the person writing this comment, but I did the same. I stayed too long in this school revising because my parents work late and were worried if I walked home. It was close to exam time, and I got asked to leave, so i revised on the pavement outside of school.
[quote][p][bold]user_name[/bold] wrote: love the parents comment 'I came home from doing the school run and she and her friends were sitting on the pavement revising'. Is that really true, or just put in to make her sound like a perfect committed student that has been wronged?[/p][/quote]No disrespect to the person writing this comment, but I did the same. I stayed too long in this school revising because my parents work late and were worried if I walked home. It was close to exam time, and I got asked to leave, so i revised on the pavement outside of school. Immortal_light
  • Score: 3

4:13pm Fri 27 Jun 14

Red Red says...

Marty Caine UKIP wrote:
sea poole wrote:
Mr UKIP - The concept of turning pupils away is a common one across Europe. For example in Germany, if a teacher is absent and a 'supply' teacher cannot be found, pupils aren't accommodated in other classes -they're turned away at the school gates. We're always being exhorted to follow the example of 'high standards' in education of European countries -so maybe we're falling into line...or is that an anathema to your political views?
Actually my political view is that people should abide by the laws of their country and in this country teachers are not legally aloud to exclude children from school, this can only be done by a headmaster or an acting headmaster and when excluding any child from their right to an education, that person is still governed by the duty of care, the headmaster has a legal responsibility for the health and safety of all students during school time. Sending children home to change their shoes, simply because the school has just decided to change their rules without notifying anyone is wrong. Is this really so difficult to understand?
Only a headmaster can exclude?? What about a headmistress? If you read the article you'll see that the uniform inspection was carried out by staff it didn't say that the staff did the excluding. However this wouldn't be classed as an exclusion, the headteacher has the legal right and responsibility to send students home to change.
[quote][p][bold]Marty Caine UKIP[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sea poole[/bold] wrote: Mr UKIP - The concept of turning pupils away is a common one across Europe. For example in Germany, if a teacher is absent and a 'supply' teacher cannot be found, pupils aren't accommodated in other classes -they're turned away at the school gates. We're always being exhorted to follow the example of 'high standards' in education of European countries -so maybe we're falling into line...or is that an anathema to your political views?[/p][/quote]Actually my political view is that people should abide by the laws of their country and in this country teachers are not legally aloud to exclude children from school, this can only be done by a headmaster or an acting headmaster and when excluding any child from their right to an education, that person is still governed by the duty of care, the headmaster has a legal responsibility for the health and safety of all students during school time. Sending children home to change their shoes, simply because the school has just decided to change their rules without notifying anyone is wrong. Is this really so difficult to understand?[/p][/quote]Only a headmaster can exclude?? What about a headmistress? If you read the article you'll see that the uniform inspection was carried out by staff it didn't say that the staff did the excluding. However this wouldn't be classed as an exclusion, the headteacher has the legal right and responsibility to send students home to change. Red Red
  • Score: 6

4:33pm Fri 27 Jun 14

breamoreboy says...

crystal-coast wrote:
It's ridiculous! It's a pair of shoes and by the picture they are similar to what's lot of people wear in the work world. Ok I understand if they come in with trainers etc but the head teacher shouldn't of just sent them home. They should of waited to hear back from the parents. If I heard my child had been sent home and I received a text I would be fuming. They have a duty of care to these children.
Give them an inch and they'll take a mile. They know full well what the rules are, if they can't be bothered with them then they can suffer the consequences.
[quote][p][bold]crystal-coast[/bold] wrote: It's ridiculous! It's a pair of shoes and by the picture they are similar to what's lot of people wear in the work world. Ok I understand if they come in with trainers etc but the head teacher shouldn't of just sent them home. They should of waited to hear back from the parents. If I heard my child had been sent home and I received a text I would be fuming. They have a duty of care to these children.[/p][/quote]Give them an inch and they'll take a mile. They know full well what the rules are, if they can't be bothered with them then they can suffer the consequences. breamoreboy
  • Score: 11

4:38pm Fri 27 Jun 14

breamoreboy says...

peace77 wrote:
Love all the comments from small minded people..shoes are shoes education is far more important than shoes. And telling people to grow up well for starters commenting on a mans choice of clothes is a bit odd probably someone who has a grudge as mentioning his name and second of all moaning it's not news well clearly it is otherwise you would stick your nose in it. Your all a bunch of critical idiots who always see negative and drama go get a life maybe get some running shoes and do one
"Your all a bunch of critical idiots", rather amusing. Please take some English lessons before posting again, thank you.
[quote][p][bold]peace77[/bold] wrote: Love all the comments from small minded people..shoes are shoes education is far more important than shoes. And telling people to grow up well for starters commenting on a mans choice of clothes is a bit odd probably someone who has a grudge as mentioning his name and second of all moaning it's not news well clearly it is otherwise you would stick your nose in it. Your all a bunch of critical idiots who always see negative and drama go get a life maybe get some running shoes and do one[/p][/quote]"Your all a bunch of critical idiots", rather amusing. Please take some English lessons before posting again, thank you. breamoreboy
  • Score: 6

4:42pm Fri 27 Jun 14

breamoreboy says...

peace77 wrote:
Baysider wrote:
kalebmoledirt wrote:
Baysider wrote:
So, a few kids getting sent home to change into their uniform now counts a news does it? Wow, just how demoralising for the reporters that they're being asked to produce this tripe rather than go out and develop proper stories.
This is awful 2 reporters And they failed to report that Darren had splashed out on a new woolly the girls have only 1shoe each, no wonder they look bogged off
I assumed they were each balancing on one leg for the photo but you may be right.
Wow picking on two girls maybe you should be in the news abit worrying you feel the need to make these two girls look stupid so there you go bully's if u have kids I feel sorry for them with your attitudes
I feel sorry for your kids, if you have any, because your English is diabolical, so clearly you couldn't teach them anything. If you can use a dictionary please look up "sentence", using them makes it far easier for people to read what you've written.
[quote][p][bold]peace77[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baysider[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kalebmoledirt[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baysider[/bold] wrote: So, a few kids getting sent home to change into their uniform now counts a news does it? Wow, just how demoralising for the reporters that they're being asked to produce this tripe rather than go out and develop proper stories.[/p][/quote]This is awful 2 reporters And they failed to report that Darren had splashed out on a new woolly the girls have only 1shoe each, no wonder they look bogged off[/p][/quote]I assumed they were each balancing on one leg for the photo but you may be right.[/p][/quote]Wow picking on two girls maybe you should be in the news abit worrying you feel the need to make these two girls look stupid so there you go bully's if u have kids I feel sorry for them with your attitudes[/p][/quote]I feel sorry for your kids, if you have any, because your English is diabolical, so clearly you couldn't teach them anything. If you can use a dictionary please look up "sentence", using them makes it far easier for people to read what you've written. breamoreboy
  • Score: 5

4:44pm Fri 27 Jun 14

breamoreboy says...

peace77 wrote:
Villz wrote:
Good on you headteacher! The same kids are probably out wandering streets in Bournemouth town centre on Saturday nights without their Mummies and Daddies- they cope then so can cope getting themselves home on a weekday morning
What the hell they went to school isn't that good enough it was the school who sent them home so how does this make these children in the wrong and must be ones wondering around town go get a life saddo maybe you should go into town and live a little instead of being a total pratt
A total pratt who can write English, not one 50 word sentence, for lack of a better term.
[quote][p][bold]peace77[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Villz[/bold] wrote: Good on you headteacher! The same kids are probably out wandering streets in Bournemouth town centre on Saturday nights without their Mummies and Daddies- they cope then so can cope getting themselves home on a weekday morning[/p][/quote]What the hell they went to school isn't that good enough it was the school who sent them home so how does this make these children in the wrong and must be ones wondering around town go get a life saddo maybe you should go into town and live a little instead of being a total pratt[/p][/quote]A total pratt who can write English, not one 50 word sentence, for lack of a better term. breamoreboy
  • Score: 2

4:48pm Fri 27 Jun 14

breamoreboy says...

Marty Caine UKIP wrote:
crystal-coast wrote:
It's ridiculous! It's a pair of shoes and by the picture they are similar to what's lot of people wear in the work world. Ok I understand if they come in with trainers etc but the head teacher shouldn't of just sent them home. They should of waited to hear back from the parents. If I heard my child had been sent home and I received a text I would be fuming. They have a duty of care to these children.
Wow -16 for making a true point, schools do have a duty of care and if you actually read the article fully, it clearly states that they were turning children away at the gate and one parent did not receive any message until 12:40. That would be some 4 hours after they were sent home. I wonder if the headmaster would like to explain that one. When a parent sends their child to school they expect that school to put their safety first and foremost, this certainly wasn't the case here and that headmaster should be ashamed of himself. If you cannot speak directly to the parents then they remain your responsibility until school finishes, so if they have broken any rules you simply put them in exclusion before putting them out on the streets.
Is this the standard we can expect from UKIP, set school rules but ignore them when the parents and pupils say so, not the head teacher?
[quote][p][bold]Marty Caine UKIP[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]crystal-coast[/bold] wrote: It's ridiculous! It's a pair of shoes and by the picture they are similar to what's lot of people wear in the work world. Ok I understand if they come in with trainers etc but the head teacher shouldn't of just sent them home. They should of waited to hear back from the parents. If I heard my child had been sent home and I received a text I would be fuming. They have a duty of care to these children.[/p][/quote]Wow -16 for making a true point, schools do have a duty of care and if you actually read the article fully, it clearly states that they were turning children away at the gate and one parent did not receive any message until 12:40. That would be some 4 hours after they were sent home. I wonder if the headmaster would like to explain that one. When a parent sends their child to school they expect that school to put their safety first and foremost, this certainly wasn't the case here and that headmaster should be ashamed of himself. If you cannot speak directly to the parents then they remain your responsibility until school finishes, so if they have broken any rules you simply put them in exclusion before putting them out on the streets.[/p][/quote]Is this the standard we can expect from UKIP, set school rules but ignore them when the parents and pupils say so, not the head teacher? breamoreboy
  • Score: 8

4:56pm Fri 27 Jun 14

justsayithowitis says...

Branksome snail wrote:
Most comments on here are in favor of the school. I think its a bit heavy handed, as they are just shoes. I agree with abiding by the rules, but i also appreciate the need for a good education being more important.
Unfortunately, the usual armchair types get in here and say, things like 'rules are rules, 'end of' and who probably have never had children. What about parents in work, who have had to excuse themselves from work, and say I'm sorry, I've got to go and pick my child up, as they have the wrong color shoes on.

Its funny also, who these pillars of society who say 'rules are rules' etc, happen to be the biggest name callers and insultors on here. Presumably the right color shoes are more important to people than an ability to hold a conversation without a tirade of insults against anybody else who dares to have an opinion other than their own.
Have you actually been reading the posts. There are 2 very rude people commenting on here and insulting people and neither of them are saying rules are rules. They are both saying the opposite
[quote][p][bold]Branksome snail[/bold] wrote: Most comments on here are in favor of the school. I think its a bit heavy handed, as they are just shoes. I agree with abiding by the rules, but i also appreciate the need for a good education being more important. Unfortunately, the usual armchair types get in here and say, things like 'rules are rules, 'end of' and who probably have never had children. What about parents in work, who have had to excuse themselves from work, and say I'm sorry, I've got to go and pick my child up, as they have the wrong color shoes on. Its funny also, who these pillars of society who say 'rules are rules' etc, happen to be the biggest name callers and insultors on here. Presumably the right color shoes are more important to people than an ability to hold a conversation without a tirade of insults against anybody else who dares to have an opinion other than their own.[/p][/quote]Have you actually been reading the posts. There are 2 very rude people commenting on here and insulting people and neither of them are saying rules are rules. They are both saying the opposite justsayithowitis
  • Score: 6

5:03pm Fri 27 Jun 14

IgglePiggle321 says...

57 students were sent hone
57 students were sent hone IgglePiggle321
  • Score: -3

5:08pm Fri 27 Jun 14

bennysmith says...

Clearly these parents have to much time on their hands, get a job... I know some of the mothers and students mentioned in this article personally and they're just chavs to put it bluntly.

They mention the fact that the school has duty of care yet where does the parents duty of care come in when their child is sat smoking weed under the pier? (Which I know those mentioned in the article do)

For the commenters saying that the rule was only implemented yesterday, this is untrue. I ended my time at this school in 2012 and correct uniform was just as important then. Oh, and don't forget the fact it was also in the 'news' in 2010...
Clearly these parents have to much time on their hands, get a job... I know some of the mothers and students mentioned in this article personally and they're just chavs to put it bluntly. They mention the fact that the school has duty of care yet where does the parents duty of care come in when their child is sat smoking weed under the pier? (Which I know those mentioned in the article do) For the commenters saying that the rule was only implemented yesterday, this is untrue. I ended my time at this school in 2012 and correct uniform was just as important then. Oh, and don't forget the fact it was also in the 'news' in 2010... bennysmith
  • Score: 21

5:19pm Fri 27 Jun 14

bogtrotter says...

breamoreboy wrote:
peace77 wrote:
Villz wrote:
Good on you headteacher! The same kids are probably out wandering streets in Bournemouth town centre on Saturday nights without their Mummies and Daddies- they cope then so can cope getting themselves home on a weekday morning
What the hell they went to school isn't that good enough it was the school who sent them home so how does this make these children in the wrong and must be ones wondering around town go get a life saddo maybe you should go into town and live a little instead of being a total pratt
A total pratt who can write English, not one 50 word sentence, for lack of a better term.
Prat only has one 't', unless referring to someone who has that surname of course.
[quote][p][bold]breamoreboy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]peace77[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Villz[/bold] wrote: Good on you headteacher! The same kids are probably out wandering streets in Bournemouth town centre on Saturday nights without their Mummies and Daddies- they cope then so can cope getting themselves home on a weekday morning[/p][/quote]What the hell they went to school isn't that good enough it was the school who sent them home so how does this make these children in the wrong and must be ones wondering around town go get a life saddo maybe you should go into town and live a little instead of being a total pratt[/p][/quote]A total pratt who can write English, not one 50 word sentence, for lack of a better term.[/p][/quote]Prat only has one 't', unless referring to someone who has that surname of course. bogtrotter
  • Score: 1

5:25pm Fri 27 Jun 14

SeafaringMan says...

crystal-coast wrote:
It's ridiculous! It's a pair of shoes and by the picture they are similar to what's lot of people wear in the work world. Ok I understand if they come in with trainers etc but the head teacher shouldn't of just sent them home. They should of waited to hear back from the parents. If I heard my child had been sent home and I received a text I would be fuming. They have a duty of care to these children.
"shouldn't of"; "should of": it is obvious that you never had the opportunity to attend an 'Academy'.
[quote][p][bold]crystal-coast[/bold] wrote: It's ridiculous! It's a pair of shoes and by the picture they are similar to what's lot of people wear in the work world. Ok I understand if they come in with trainers etc but the head teacher shouldn't of just sent them home. They should of waited to hear back from the parents. If I heard my child had been sent home and I received a text I would be fuming. They have a duty of care to these children.[/p][/quote]"shouldn't of"; "should of": it is obvious that you never had the opportunity to attend an 'Academy'. SeafaringMan
  • Score: 6

5:27pm Fri 27 Jun 14

mudefordguy says...

IgglePiggle321 wrote:
57 students were sent hone
Source?
[quote][p][bold]IgglePiggle321[/bold] wrote: 57 students were sent hone[/p][/quote]Source? mudefordguy
  • Score: 4

5:42pm Fri 27 Jun 14

bogtrotter says...

mudefordguy wrote:
IgglePiggle321 wrote:
57 students were sent hone
Source?
Probably one of the students that was sat on the pavement revising.
[quote][p][bold]mudefordguy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IgglePiggle321[/bold] wrote: 57 students were sent hone[/p][/quote]Source?[/p][/quote]Probably one of the students that was sat on the pavement revising. bogtrotter
  • Score: 5

6:04pm Fri 27 Jun 14

DementedGoat says...

All these positive comments I've seen, how can they be believed.
They could be false accounts created by members of Staff from the Academy.
How can this forum, present a fair and impartial platform
All these positive comments I've seen, how can they be believed. They could be false accounts created by members of Staff from the Academy. How can this forum, present a fair and impartial platform DementedGoat
  • Score: -6

6:16pm Fri 27 Jun 14

Lord Spring says...

mudefordguy wrote:
IgglePiggle321 wrote:
57 students were sent hone
Source?
Sauce 57 must be Heinz
[quote][p][bold]mudefordguy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IgglePiggle321[/bold] wrote: 57 students were sent hone[/p][/quote]Source?[/p][/quote]Sauce 57 must be Heinz Lord Spring
  • Score: 10

6:37pm Fri 27 Jun 14

ashleycross says...

Yet again Daily echo runs an anti authority article (witness tons of I want to park wherever I want to grizzling) and the comments show that the good people of the BH post code would like to slap an ASBO on the reporters. In fact, that might be an idea. Stop behaving anti socially by inciting people to park dangerously and undermine teachers.
Is the editor trying to incite riots so that he's got a story to publish?
Yet again Daily echo runs an anti authority article (witness tons of I want to park wherever I want to grizzling) and the comments show that the good people of the BH post code would like to slap an ASBO on the reporters. In fact, that might be an idea. Stop behaving anti socially by inciting people to park dangerously and undermine teachers. Is the editor trying to incite riots so that he's got a story to publish? ashleycross
  • Score: 5

6:39pm Fri 27 Jun 14

ashleycross says...

Headline would be more accurate as "Pupils and teachers' delight as caring head enforces school rules on children with uncaring parents"
Headline would be more accurate as "Pupils and teachers' delight as caring head enforces school rules on children with uncaring parents" ashleycross
  • Score: 12

7:10pm Fri 27 Jun 14

spooki says...

I left this school in 1992 (when it was Summerbee) and the uniform rules were pretty much the same then. Fabric ballet flats are certainly not good for your posture or your feet, they're purely fashion shoes.
I left this school in 1992 (when it was Summerbee) and the uniform rules were pretty much the same then. Fabric ballet flats are certainly not good for your posture or your feet, they're purely fashion shoes. spooki
  • Score: 7

7:13pm Fri 27 Jun 14

PokesdownMark says...

Gingertree wrote:
PYou do know fhat school leavers will be able to change their shoes. Their minds. Their attitudes. Their tastes. The work place argument was the most face saving thing that the school could say. I am surprised people are falling for it.
So just to be clear, the argumentment you agree with is this... If kids do not wear shoes made out of a specific material while at this particular school, irrespective of how acceptable some shoes look, the appearance is not the test, the exact type of material is, they will not be willing or able to work somewhere that has an equally strict shoe policy. Of which I can think of very few types of job anyway. Except those that require safety toe caps or similar. Riiiiiight. Okay then.
[quote][p][bold]Gingertree[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PYou do know fhat school leavers will be able to change their shoes. Their minds. Their attitudes. Their tastes. The work place argument was the most face saving thing that the school could say. I am surprised people are falling for it. So just to be clear, the argumentment you agree with is this... If kids do not wear shoes made out of a specific material while at this particular school, irrespective of how acceptable some shoes look, the appearance is not the test, the exact type of material is, they will not be willing or able to work somewhere that has an equally strict shoe policy. Of which I can think of very few types of job anyway. Except those that require safety toe caps or similar. Riiiiiight. Okay then. PokesdownMark
  • Score: -2

7:33pm Fri 27 Jun 14

hucky999 says...

Oh look Chav, Chav and Chav, good for the school. in my day we ALL had to wear the same, Uniform blazer, trousers, white shirt, school tie, grey socks (everyone), Brown shoes same style for everyone, satchel or briefcase but must meet school regulations, If any child was seen not wearing his Blazer, or tie, he was disciplined in front of the whole school.
Oh look Chav, Chav and Chav, good for the school. in my day we ALL had to wear the same, Uniform blazer, trousers, white shirt, school tie, grey socks (everyone), Brown shoes same style for everyone, satchel or briefcase but must meet school regulations, If any child was seen not wearing his Blazer, or tie, he was disciplined in front of the whole school. hucky999
  • Score: 12

7:42pm Fri 27 Jun 14

Carolyn43 says...

ontheside wrote:
What the school forgot to say was it was actually 57 sent home on Thursday instead of 15 and someone even got sent home for having a can of hairspray in their bag. They didn't call anyone's parent until about 1pm/12 AND there is NO WAY WHATSOEVER a 'uniform check' every week or even every month. They've made may students buy new shoes, when those shoes have been fine since September, when many parents cant afford it and there is only 3 weeks left and even 1 week left for Year 10 students.
I believe the school spokesperson about how many were sent home. I suspect, if there were more than 15, that some didn't go into school to keep their friends company. I taught secondary for 25 years and know that some children do not always tell their parents the truth.
[quote][p][bold]ontheside[/bold] wrote: What the school forgot to say was it was actually 57 sent home on Thursday instead of 15 and someone even got sent home for having a can of hairspray in their bag. They didn't call anyone's parent until about 1pm/12 AND there is NO WAY WHATSOEVER a 'uniform check' every week or even every month. They've made may students buy new shoes, when those shoes have been fine since September, when many parents cant afford it and there is only 3 weeks left and even 1 week left for Year 10 students.[/p][/quote]I believe the school spokesperson about how many were sent home. I suspect, if there were more than 15, that some didn't go into school to keep their friends company. I taught secondary for 25 years and know that some children do not always tell their parents the truth. Carolyn43
  • Score: 14

7:43pm Fri 27 Jun 14

kalebmoledirt says...

hucky999 wrote:
Oh look Chav, Chav and Chav, good for the school. in my day we ALL had to wear the same, Uniform blazer, trousers, white shirt, school tie, grey socks (everyone), Brown shoes same style for everyone, satchel or briefcase but must meet school regulations, If any child was seen not wearing his Blazer, or tie, he was disciplined in front of the whole school.
Sure you wasn't with the Hitler youth ?
[quote][p][bold]hucky999[/bold] wrote: Oh look Chav, Chav and Chav, good for the school. in my day we ALL had to wear the same, Uniform blazer, trousers, white shirt, school tie, grey socks (everyone), Brown shoes same style for everyone, satchel or briefcase but must meet school regulations, If any child was seen not wearing his Blazer, or tie, he was disciplined in front of the whole school.[/p][/quote]Sure you wasn't with the Hitler youth ? kalebmoledirt
  • Score: -5

8:30pm Fri 27 Jun 14

visionary2 says...

What's the big deal? I used to live in Wolverhampton and walk home from school myself when I was 7 and by age 9 I would catch the bus and cross a busy town to get to school. Lots of kids did it.
What's the big deal? I used to live in Wolverhampton and walk home from school myself when I was 7 and by age 9 I would catch the bus and cross a busy town to get to school. Lots of kids did it. visionary2
  • Score: 10

8:41pm Fri 27 Jun 14

THEREDS1892 says...

Good on the school about time,the amount of young girls and boys wearing what they like to school is crazy,its not a fashion parade it's school........
Good on the school about time,the amount of young girls and boys wearing what they like to school is crazy,its not a fashion parade it's school........ THEREDS1892
  • Score: 14

8:43pm Fri 27 Jun 14

beej22 says...

hadvar wrote:
The first thing the headteacher of a school needs to do is ensure the safety of his or her students. How are they going to do that if they are not on the school site? Could they have inforced this rule in another way? I'd say it was in the very least, heavy handed. At worst, well, you run the risk of some kind of harm befalling someone to whom you have a duty of care? This headteacher is happy to take that chance, over something as trivial as this? Brave man. He would be metaphorically crucified if something had gone wrong. Every time he turns a kid away, he rolls the dice. He'd better hope his luck holds.
This is really true, the school is in parentis loco, it means they have a legal duty to keep our children safe once they are in their school. I work in a different school and it drives me mad some people think the rules don't apply to them but it might be better to exclude the children on site so they are safe.
[quote][p][bold]hadvar[/bold] wrote: The first thing the headteacher of a school needs to do is ensure the safety of his or her students. How are they going to do that if they are not on the school site? Could they have inforced this rule in another way? I'd say it was in the very least, heavy handed. At worst, well, you run the risk of some kind of harm befalling someone to whom you have a duty of care? This headteacher is happy to take that chance, over something as trivial as this? Brave man. He would be metaphorically crucified if something had gone wrong. Every time he turns a kid away, he rolls the dice. He'd better hope his luck holds.[/p][/quote]This is really true, the school is in parentis loco, it means they have a legal duty to keep our children safe once they are in their school. I work in a different school and it drives me mad some people think the rules don't apply to them but it might be better to exclude the children on site so they are safe. beej22
  • Score: 0

9:11pm Fri 27 Jun 14

answer 123 says...

beej22 wrote:
hadvar wrote:
The first thing the headteacher of a school needs to do is ensure the safety of his or her students. How are they going to do that if they are not on the school site? Could they have inforced this rule in another way? I'd say it was in the very least, heavy handed. At worst, well, you run the risk of some kind of harm befalling someone to whom you have a duty of care? This headteacher is happy to take that chance, over something as trivial as this? Brave man. He would be metaphorically crucified if something had gone wrong. Every time he turns a kid away, he rolls the dice. He'd better hope his luck holds.
This is really true, the school is in parentis loco, it means they have a legal duty to keep our children safe once they are in their school. I work in a different school and it drives me mad some people think the rules don't apply to them but it might be better to exclude the children on site so they are safe.
The headmaster also has a duty of care within the school. Health and safety is paramount. Some of the items of footwear I have witnessed at school could not be classed as school shoes and are positively dangerous. I noticed that these pupils were some of the ones excluded. Apparently the children were sent home witn a letter outlining the consequences of not complying with school rules.
[quote][p][bold]beej22[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hadvar[/bold] wrote: The first thing the headteacher of a school needs to do is ensure the safety of his or her students. How are they going to do that if they are not on the school site? Could they have inforced this rule in another way? I'd say it was in the very least, heavy handed. At worst, well, you run the risk of some kind of harm befalling someone to whom you have a duty of care? This headteacher is happy to take that chance, over something as trivial as this? Brave man. He would be metaphorically crucified if something had gone wrong. Every time he turns a kid away, he rolls the dice. He'd better hope his luck holds.[/p][/quote]This is really true, the school is in parentis loco, it means they have a legal duty to keep our children safe once they are in their school. I work in a different school and it drives me mad some people think the rules don't apply to them but it might be better to exclude the children on site so they are safe.[/p][/quote]The headmaster also has a duty of care within the school. Health and safety is paramount. Some of the items of footwear I have witnessed at school could not be classed as school shoes and are positively dangerous. I noticed that these pupils were some of the ones excluded. Apparently the children were sent home witn a letter outlining the consequences of not complying with school rules. answer 123
  • Score: 7

9:11pm Fri 27 Jun 14

answer 123 says...

beej22 wrote:
hadvar wrote:
The first thing the headteacher of a school needs to do is ensure the safety of his or her students. How are they going to do that if they are not on the school site? Could they have inforced this rule in another way? I'd say it was in the very least, heavy handed. At worst, well, you run the risk of some kind of harm befalling someone to whom you have a duty of care? This headteacher is happy to take that chance, over something as trivial as this? Brave man. He would be metaphorically crucified if something had gone wrong. Every time he turns a kid away, he rolls the dice. He'd better hope his luck holds.
This is really true, the school is in parentis loco, it means they have a legal duty to keep our children safe once they are in their school. I work in a different school and it drives me mad some people think the rules don't apply to them but it might be better to exclude the children on site so they are safe.
The headmaster also has a duty of care within the school. Health and safety is paramount. Some of the items of footwear I have witnessed at school could not be classed as school shoes and are positively dangerous. I noticed that these pupils were some of the ones excluded. Apparently the children were sent home witn a letter outlining the consequences of not complying with school rules.
[quote][p][bold]beej22[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hadvar[/bold] wrote: The first thing the headteacher of a school needs to do is ensure the safety of his or her students. How are they going to do that if they are not on the school site? Could they have inforced this rule in another way? I'd say it was in the very least, heavy handed. At worst, well, you run the risk of some kind of harm befalling someone to whom you have a duty of care? This headteacher is happy to take that chance, over something as trivial as this? Brave man. He would be metaphorically crucified if something had gone wrong. Every time he turns a kid away, he rolls the dice. He'd better hope his luck holds.[/p][/quote]This is really true, the school is in parentis loco, it means they have a legal duty to keep our children safe once they are in their school. I work in a different school and it drives me mad some people think the rules don't apply to them but it might be better to exclude the children on site so they are safe.[/p][/quote]The headmaster also has a duty of care within the school. Health and safety is paramount. Some of the items of footwear I have witnessed at school could not be classed as school shoes and are positively dangerous. I noticed that these pupils were some of the ones excluded. Apparently the children were sent home witn a letter outlining the consequences of not complying with school rules. answer 123
  • Score: 5

9:15pm Fri 27 Jun 14

answer 123 says...

Carolyn43 wrote:
ontheside wrote:
What the school forgot to say was it was actually 57 sent home on Thursday instead of 15 and someone even got sent home for having a can of hairspray in their bag. They didn't call anyone's parent until about 1pm/12 AND there is NO WAY WHATSOEVER a 'uniform check' every week or even every month. They've made may students buy new shoes, when those shoes have been fine since September, when many parents cant afford it and there is only 3 weeks left and even 1 week left for Year 10 students.
I believe the school spokesperson about how many were sent home. I suspect, if there were more than 15, that some didn't go into school to keep their friends company. I taught secondary for 25 years and know that some children do not always tell their parents the truth.
Really ! LOL
[quote][p][bold]Carolyn43[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ontheside[/bold] wrote: What the school forgot to say was it was actually 57 sent home on Thursday instead of 15 and someone even got sent home for having a can of hairspray in their bag. They didn't call anyone's parent until about 1pm/12 AND there is NO WAY WHATSOEVER a 'uniform check' every week or even every month. They've made may students buy new shoes, when those shoes have been fine since September, when many parents cant afford it and there is only 3 weeks left and even 1 week left for Year 10 students.[/p][/quote]I believe the school spokesperson about how many were sent home. I suspect, if there were more than 15, that some didn't go into school to keep their friends company. I taught secondary for 25 years and know that some children do not always tell their parents the truth.[/p][/quote]Really ! LOL answer 123
  • Score: 2

9:17pm Fri 27 Jun 14

Tom Baker says...

visionary2 wrote:
What's the big deal? I used to live in Wolverhampton and walk home from school myself when I was 7 and by age 9 I would catch the bus and cross a busy town to get to school. Lots of kids did it.
Perhaps these children should move to another local school that isn't oversubscribed and doesn't have outstanding leadership and management (read the Ofsted report). High standards do of course start at home. I'd like to see a news article on the 700+ students at this Academy who want to do well and have high expectations for themselves. These students want to be educated and are prepared to do their best in every aspect of their lives. They attend this Academy understanding the high expectations that the leadership team have set will prepare themselves to compete for employment nationally and internationally. High expectations lead to high achievers. It's a shame that this newspaper reports on the very small minority who have such low expectations and low standards. I expect that the tax I pay will go towards buying new shoes for these children, through a benefit system that promotes low expectations and low aspirations. Shame on you Echo for your negative reporting.
[quote][p][bold]visionary2[/bold] wrote: What's the big deal? I used to live in Wolverhampton and walk home from school myself when I was 7 and by age 9 I would catch the bus and cross a busy town to get to school. Lots of kids did it.[/p][/quote]Perhaps these children should move to another local school that isn't oversubscribed and doesn't have outstanding leadership and management (read the Ofsted report). High standards do of course start at home. I'd like to see a news article on the 700+ students at this Academy who want to do well and have high expectations for themselves. These students want to be educated and are prepared to do their best in every aspect of their lives. They attend this Academy understanding the high expectations that the leadership team have set will prepare themselves to compete for employment nationally and internationally. High expectations lead to high achievers. It's a shame that this newspaper reports on the very small minority who have such low expectations and low standards. I expect that the tax I pay will go towards buying new shoes for these children, through a benefit system that promotes low expectations and low aspirations. Shame on you Echo for your negative reporting. Tom Baker
  • Score: 13

9:21pm Fri 27 Jun 14

answer 123 says...

DementedGoat wrote:
All these positive comments I've seen, how can they be believed.
They could be false accounts created by members of Staff from the Academy.
How can this forum, present a fair and impartial platform
Do you really believe teachers have the time to waste ! Try working as hard as many of them...My daughter is a senior teacher, her hours very often are from 6am until 1.30 am marking at home evenings and weekend's oh and of course holidays !
[quote][p][bold]DementedGoat[/bold] wrote: All these positive comments I've seen, how can they be believed. They could be false accounts created by members of Staff from the Academy. How can this forum, present a fair and impartial platform[/p][/quote]Do you really believe teachers have the time to waste ! Try working as hard as many of them...My daughter is a senior teacher, her hours very often are from 6am until 1.30 am marking at home evenings and weekend's oh and of course holidays ! answer 123
  • Score: 8

9:25pm Fri 27 Jun 14

kalebmoledirt says...

kalebmoledirt wrote:
peace77 wrote:
kalebmoledirt wrote:
Darren if your going to go out and have your pic taken,get your wife to dress you , nasty wooly
Oh someone so mature here atleast he has a wife and atleast he's there with his girls get a life freak
Peace 77 sorry your having a bad day ,relax.Making personnel remark doesn't help .it brings attention to your bad grammar now write something nice a little poem may help you mmmmmmnnnnnnnnn peace
Dear peace 77 do hope the negative response you have got today have not put you off returning again you are great fun in a caustic sort of way .look forward to hearing from you again soon
[quote][p][bold]kalebmoledirt[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]peace77[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kalebmoledirt[/bold] wrote: Darren if your going to go out and have your pic taken,get your wife to dress you , nasty wooly[/p][/quote]Oh someone so mature here atleast he has a wife and atleast he's there with his girls get a life freak[/p][/quote]Peace 77 sorry your having a bad day ,relax.Making personnel remark doesn't help .it brings attention to your bad grammar now write something nice a little poem may help you mmmmmmnnnnnnnnn peace[/p][/quote]Dear peace 77 do hope the negative response you have got today have not put you off returning again you are great fun in a caustic sort of way .look forward to hearing from you again soon kalebmoledirt
  • Score: 3

10:12pm Fri 27 Jun 14

ontheside says...

Carolyn43 wrote:
ontheside wrote:
What the school forgot to say was it was actually 57 sent home on Thursday instead of 15 and someone even got sent home for having a can of hairspray in their bag. They didn't call anyone's parent until about 1pm/12 AND there is NO WAY WHATSOEVER a 'uniform check' every week or even every month. They've made may students buy new shoes, when those shoes have been fine since September, when many parents cant afford it and there is only 3 weeks left and even 1 week left for Year 10 students.
I believe the school spokesperson about how many were sent home. I suspect, if there were more than 15, that some didn't go into school to keep their friends company. I taught secondary for 25 years and know that some children do not always tell their parents the truth.
Im not a parent and I actually know of many of the people who got sent home to know it was MUCH more than 15. And a senior teacher at the school told me thank you very much
[quote][p][bold]Carolyn43[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ontheside[/bold] wrote: What the school forgot to say was it was actually 57 sent home on Thursday instead of 15 and someone even got sent home for having a can of hairspray in their bag. They didn't call anyone's parent until about 1pm/12 AND there is NO WAY WHATSOEVER a 'uniform check' every week or even every month. They've made may students buy new shoes, when those shoes have been fine since September, when many parents cant afford it and there is only 3 weeks left and even 1 week left for Year 10 students.[/p][/quote]I believe the school spokesperson about how many were sent home. I suspect, if there were more than 15, that some didn't go into school to keep their friends company. I taught secondary for 25 years and know that some children do not always tell their parents the truth.[/p][/quote]Im not a parent and I actually know of many of the people who got sent home to know it was MUCH more than 15. And a senior teacher at the school told me thank you very much ontheside
  • Score: -12

10:17pm Fri 27 Jun 14

Dorset Logic says...

codeydbw wrote:
People really shouldn't comment on things where they have no idea what is going on...
Sorry this is the cycling forum
[quote][p][bold]codeydbw[/bold] wrote: People really shouldn't comment on things where they have no idea what is going on...[/p][/quote]Sorry this is the cycling forum Dorset Logic
  • Score: -3

10:18pm Fri 27 Jun 14

Dorset Logic says...

Lord Spring wrote:
vicjoaid wrote:
They did the same in 2010, I agree with the school. When I was at school we had a strict uniform policy and we're sent home if it was wrong. Parents should ensure that children go correctly dressed.
We were not allowed Windsor knots in our ties.
We had bow ties, and a job in the city lined up
[quote][p][bold]Lord Spring[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]vicjoaid[/bold] wrote: They did the same in 2010, I agree with the school. When I was at school we had a strict uniform policy and we're sent home if it was wrong. Parents should ensure that children go correctly dressed.[/p][/quote]We were not allowed Windsor knots in our ties.[/p][/quote]We had bow ties, and a job in the city lined up Dorset Logic
  • Score: 1

11:11pm Fri 27 Jun 14

Yankee1 says...

I wonder where the school stands regarding liability if a child, turned away during the school day, is injured or worse? Whatever happened to In Loco Parentis?

UK schools are out of control, and it is not the kids.
I wonder where the school stands regarding liability if a child, turned away during the school day, is injured or worse? Whatever happened to In Loco Parentis? UK schools are out of control, and it is not the kids. Yankee1
  • Score: -11

11:12pm Fri 27 Jun 14

Yankee1 says...

BIGTONE wrote:
vicjoaid wrote:
They did the same in 2010, I agree with the school. When I was at school we had a strict uniform policy and we're sent home if it was wrong. Parents should ensure that children go correctly dressed.
It's also called discipline.
If parents fail in this then clearly the school step in and do it for them.
What a useless society you have, if that is the case.
[quote][p][bold]BIGTONE[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]vicjoaid[/bold] wrote: They did the same in 2010, I agree with the school. When I was at school we had a strict uniform policy and we're sent home if it was wrong. Parents should ensure that children go correctly dressed.[/p][/quote]It's also called discipline. If parents fail in this then clearly the school step in and do it for them.[/p][/quote]What a useless society you have, if that is the case. Yankee1
  • Score: -6

11:21pm Fri 27 Jun 14

breamoreboy says...

Chris Hopper wrote:
THIS REPORT IS WRONG. THE HEADMASTER LIED BECAUSE IN THE LAST 4 YEARS NEVER HAD THEY HAD SUCH A ISSUE AND ADRESSED IT WITH "INSPECTION". NEVER HAPPEND.
Please don't shout and learn some English whilst learning some manners, thank you.
[quote][p][bold]Chris Hopper[/bold] wrote: THIS REPORT IS WRONG. THE HEADMASTER LIED BECAUSE IN THE LAST 4 YEARS NEVER HAD THEY HAD SUCH A ISSUE AND ADRESSED IT WITH "INSPECTION". NEVER HAPPEND.[/p][/quote]Please don't shout and learn some English whilst learning some manners, thank you. breamoreboy
  • Score: 7

11:25pm Fri 27 Jun 14

breamoreboy says...

peace77 wrote:
Chris Hopper wrote:
This article is false because never has the school inspected uniform before and suddenly that day they did.
Listen you are right but the negative glory seekers on here have nothing better to do than pick on little girls and find a flaw in everyone's comments. Let these boring no hopers talk amongst themselves as they obviously attended school in the 1800's so we do need some compassion to them. The school decided yesterday to change the rules only those parents of children who attend here know this, all the other people can just make up crap to get a few likes as they need these likes to feel like they are wanted. I bet they are sitting awaiting a giro in there £2.99 primark pumps but behind there computers they pretend to be something else
Don't you mean "sitting in *THEIR* £2.99 primark pumps"? I believe I can safely assume that you never attended school judging from your appalling knowledge of English, which I am assuming is your first and presumably only language, apart from bad.
[quote][p][bold]peace77[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chris Hopper[/bold] wrote: This article is false because never has the school inspected uniform before and suddenly that day they did.[/p][/quote]Listen you are right but the negative glory seekers on here have nothing better to do than pick on little girls and find a flaw in everyone's comments. Let these boring no hopers talk amongst themselves as they obviously attended school in the 1800's so we do need some compassion to them. The school decided yesterday to change the rules only those parents of children who attend here know this, all the other people can just make up crap to get a few likes as they need these likes to feel like they are wanted. I bet they are sitting awaiting a giro in there £2.99 primark pumps but behind there computers they pretend to be something else[/p][/quote]Don't you mean "sitting in *THEIR* £2.99 primark pumps"? I believe I can safely assume that you never attended school judging from your appalling knowledge of English, which I am assuming is your first and presumably only language, apart from bad. breamoreboy
  • Score: 8

11:34pm Fri 27 Jun 14

breamoreboy says...

Marty Caine UKIP wrote:
sea poole wrote:
Mr UKIP - The concept of turning pupils away is a common one across Europe. For example in Germany, if a teacher is absent and a 'supply' teacher cannot be found, pupils aren't accommodated in other classes -they're turned away at the school gates. We're always being exhorted to follow the example of 'high standards' in education of European countries -so maybe we're falling into line...or is that an anathema to your political views?
Actually my political view is that people should abide by the laws of their country and in this country teachers are not legally aloud to exclude children from school, this can only be done by a headmaster or an acting headmaster and when excluding any child from their right to an education, that person is still governed by the duty of care, the headmaster has a legal responsibility for the health and safety of all students during school time. Sending children home to change their shoes, simply because the school has just decided to change their rules without notifying anyone is wrong. Is this really so difficult to understand?
They haven't been excluded, they've been told to turn up wearing the correct uniform. "not legally aloud", Gordon Bennett!!!
[quote][p][bold]Marty Caine UKIP[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sea poole[/bold] wrote: Mr UKIP - The concept of turning pupils away is a common one across Europe. For example in Germany, if a teacher is absent and a 'supply' teacher cannot be found, pupils aren't accommodated in other classes -they're turned away at the school gates. We're always being exhorted to follow the example of 'high standards' in education of European countries -so maybe we're falling into line...or is that an anathema to your political views?[/p][/quote]Actually my political view is that people should abide by the laws of their country and in this country teachers are not legally aloud to exclude children from school, this can only be done by a headmaster or an acting headmaster and when excluding any child from their right to an education, that person is still governed by the duty of care, the headmaster has a legal responsibility for the health and safety of all students during school time. Sending children home to change their shoes, simply because the school has just decided to change their rules without notifying anyone is wrong. Is this really so difficult to understand?[/p][/quote]They haven't been excluded, they've been told to turn up wearing the correct uniform. "not legally aloud", Gordon Bennett!!! breamoreboy
  • Score: 8

11:39pm Fri 27 Jun 14

IAML3GEND says...

BournemouthDan wrote:
The most over subscribed school in Bournemouth. An inspirational head teacher who has brought order where there was chaos. How do you think he did that?

There are a long line of children whose parents are desperate to get their kids into the Bishop of Winchester. If you dont like the rules, go elsewhere.

The Echo runs a story about people not following known and expected standards and apparently its the schools fault.
Well it is , im student in year 10 there and believe me its not that special ! When I went in yesterday and today it was like being at border security force !
[quote][p][bold]BournemouthDan[/bold] wrote: The most over subscribed school in Bournemouth. An inspirational head teacher who has brought order where there was chaos. How do you think he did that? There are a long line of children whose parents are desperate to get their kids into the Bishop of Winchester. If you dont like the rules, go elsewhere. The Echo runs a story about people not following known and expected standards and apparently its the schools fault.[/p][/quote]Well it is , im student in year 10 there and believe me its not that special ! When I went in yesterday and today it was like being at border security force ! IAML3GEND
  • Score: -6

11:54pm Fri 27 Jun 14

IAML3GEND says...

Chris Hopper wrote:
THIS REPORT IS WRONG. THE HEADMASTER LIED BECAUSE IN THE LAST 4 YEARS NEVER HAD THEY HAD SUCH A ISSUE AND ADRESSED IT WITH "INSPECTION". NEVER HAPPEND.
He also lied about how many students were sent home , over 15 were ( I go to bishop )
[quote][p][bold]Chris Hopper[/bold] wrote: THIS REPORT IS WRONG. THE HEADMASTER LIED BECAUSE IN THE LAST 4 YEARS NEVER HAD THEY HAD SUCH A ISSUE AND ADRESSED IT WITH "INSPECTION". NEVER HAPPEND.[/p][/quote]He also lied about how many students were sent home , over 15 were ( I go to bishop ) IAML3GEND
  • Score: -8

12:33am Sat 28 Jun 14

scrumpyjack says...

echor23 wrote:
mudefordguy wrote:
echor23 wrote:
Whilst I support the head in doing uniform checks and disciplining students without the correct unifrom as he is evidently trying to promote a healthy and good ethos within the school info find it quite barbaric that children were sent home alone to change!
They should have all had their parents called to come and collect them safely or be reprimanded by detention or otherwise.
What position would the head be in now should one of those children been knocked over, attacked or even kidnapped?
We leave our children at home under the safe knowledge that they are in that vicinity for the entire day, within those walls and safe from the outside world. Has this been my own child I would take this legally as had I found my own child wandering the streets with no bus fare I'm not sure I would feel comfortable with them entering the school again.
Parents would have been told the policy when sending their kids there. Don't like it? Think you know better? Send the kids somewhere else.
Err no I don't know better and my kids don't go to that school! I actually moved to get my children into a superb school! I'm simply stating that I'm sure the parents and children so know better and I'm not supporting the misuse of uniform but I disagree that kids were sent home alone as I find this acutely unsafe! I know better than to allow a child to wander the streets alone!
'find it quite barbaric that children were sent home alone to change'



barbaric
bɑːˈbarɪk/
adjective
1.
savagely cruel.
"he carried out barbaric acts in the name of war"
synonyms: brutal, barbarous, brutish, ****, savage, vicious, fierce, ferocious, wicked, cruel, nasty, ruthless, remorseless, merciless, villainous, murderous, heinous, nefarious, monstrous, base, low, low-down, vile, inhuman, infernal, dark, black, black-hearted, fiendish, hellish, diabolical, ghastly, horrible More
[quote][p][bold]echor23[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mudefordguy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]echor23[/bold] wrote: Whilst I support the head in doing uniform checks and disciplining students without the correct unifrom as he is evidently trying to promote a healthy and good ethos within the school info find it quite barbaric that children were sent home alone to change! They should have all had their parents called to come and collect them safely or be reprimanded by detention or otherwise. What position would the head be in now should one of those children been knocked over, attacked or even kidnapped? We leave our children at home under the safe knowledge that they are in that vicinity for the entire day, within those walls and safe from the outside world. Has this been my own child I would take this legally as had I found my own child wandering the streets with no bus fare I'm not sure I would feel comfortable with them entering the school again.[/p][/quote]Parents would have been told the policy when sending their kids there. Don't like it? Think you know better? Send the kids somewhere else.[/p][/quote]Err no I don't know better and my kids don't go to that school! I actually moved to get my children into a superb school! I'm simply stating that I'm sure the parents and children so know better and I'm not supporting the misuse of uniform but I disagree that kids were sent home alone as I find this acutely unsafe! I know better than to allow a child to wander the streets alone![/p][/quote]'find it quite barbaric that children were sent home alone to change' barbaric bɑːˈbarɪk/ adjective 1. savagely cruel. "he carried out barbaric acts in the name of war" synonyms: brutal, barbarous, brutish, ****, savage, vicious, fierce, ferocious, wicked, cruel, nasty, ruthless, remorseless, merciless, villainous, murderous, heinous, nefarious, monstrous, base, low, low-down, vile, inhuman, infernal, dark, black, black-hearted, fiendish, hellish, diabolical, ghastly, horrible More scrumpyjack
  • Score: 4

12:37am Sat 28 Jun 14

Mrs C. A Townend says...

While I understand the school rules, and the schools willingness to make the children conform to them; can I also say that schools have a duty of responsibility towards these children too, and sending them home when they can not get hold of their parents is as 1) as irresponsible as the children for wearing the 'wrong' shoes in the first place 2)irresponsible of the school for not making sure the children had somewhere to go. 3) It is not the children's fault if they cannot get hold of their parents.
While I understand the school rules, and the schools willingness to make the children conform to them; can I also say that schools have a duty of responsibility towards these children too, and sending them home when they can not get hold of their parents is as 1) as irresponsible as the children for wearing the 'wrong' shoes in the first place 2)irresponsible of the school for not making sure the children had somewhere to go. 3) It is not the children's fault if they cannot get hold of their parents. Mrs C. A Townend
  • Score: -7

12:48am Sat 28 Jun 14

rednblack37 says...

mudefordguy wrote:
echor23 wrote:
Whilst I support the head in doing uniform checks and disciplining students without the correct unifrom as he is evidently trying to promote a healthy and good ethos within the school info find it quite barbaric that children were sent home alone to change!
They should have all had their parents called to come and collect them safely or be reprimanded by detention or otherwise.
What position would the head be in now should one of those children been knocked over, attacked or even kidnapped?
We leave our children at home under the safe knowledge that they are in that vicinity for the entire day, within those walls and safe from the outside world. Has this been my own child I would take this legally as had I found my own child wandering the streets with no bus fare I'm not sure I would feel comfortable with them entering the school again.
Parents would have been told the policy when sending their kids there. Don't like it? Think you know better? Send the kids somewhere else.
Pathetic response. Your children go to the school they're in a catchment area for (even then you can be turned down if it's oversubscribed and they have to go to a second choice school), you can't just send them anywhere. If I went to a meeting to find out about a school and was told the policy was to inspect school uniform at the gate and send home straight away, I would be stunned! I would in touch with my MP to find out if this was on official advice from the education department. Because I'm all for discipline and teaching children standards and if their uniform is wrong they should receive a punishment - but sending CHILDREN back onto the streets when the parents think their in school is just amazingly irresponsible. Sending parents a text is a massive cop-out too - it's called a phone for a reason- you can actually SPEAK to people on it too - in my job, I'm frequently in bad signal areas and a lot of people do jobs where their phone is in a locker for hours. This way of dealing with wrong uniform is not the answer - a child could have ended up killed or abducted as a result of this schools actions, there's plenty of weirdos out there.
[quote][p][bold]mudefordguy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]echor23[/bold] wrote: Whilst I support the head in doing uniform checks and disciplining students without the correct unifrom as he is evidently trying to promote a healthy and good ethos within the school info find it quite barbaric that children were sent home alone to change! They should have all had their parents called to come and collect them safely or be reprimanded by detention or otherwise. What position would the head be in now should one of those children been knocked over, attacked or even kidnapped? We leave our children at home under the safe knowledge that they are in that vicinity for the entire day, within those walls and safe from the outside world. Has this been my own child I would take this legally as had I found my own child wandering the streets with no bus fare I'm not sure I would feel comfortable with them entering the school again.[/p][/quote]Parents would have been told the policy when sending their kids there. Don't like it? Think you know better? Send the kids somewhere else.[/p][/quote]Pathetic response. Your children go to the school they're in a catchment area for (even then you can be turned down if it's oversubscribed and they have to go to a second choice school), you can't just send them anywhere. If I went to a meeting to find out about a school and was told the policy was to inspect school uniform at the gate and send home straight away, I would be stunned! I would in touch with my MP to find out if this was on official advice from the education department. Because I'm all for discipline and teaching children standards and if their uniform is wrong they should receive a punishment - but sending CHILDREN back onto the streets when the parents think their in school is just amazingly irresponsible. Sending parents a text is a massive cop-out too - it's called a phone for a reason- you can actually SPEAK to people on it too - in my job, I'm frequently in bad signal areas and a lot of people do jobs where their phone is in a locker for hours. This way of dealing with wrong uniform is not the answer - a child could have ended up killed or abducted as a result of this schools actions, there's plenty of weirdos out there. rednblack37
  • Score: -15

12:55am Sat 28 Jun 14

scrumpyjack says...

breamoreboy wrote:
Marty Caine UKIP wrote:
crystal-coast wrote:
It's ridiculous! It's a pair of shoes and by the picture they are similar to what's lot of people wear in the work world. Ok I understand if they come in with trainers etc but the head teacher shouldn't of just sent them home. They should of waited to hear back from the parents. If I heard my child had been sent home and I received a text I would be fuming. They have a duty of care to these children.
Wow -16 for making a true point, schools do have a duty of care and if you actually read the article fully, it clearly states that they were turning children away at the gate and one parent did not receive any message until 12:40. That would be some 4 hours after they were sent home. I wonder if the headmaster would like to explain that one. When a parent sends their child to school they expect that school to put their safety first and foremost, this certainly wasn't the case here and that headmaster should be ashamed of himself. If you cannot speak directly to the parents then they remain your responsibility until school finishes, so if they have broken any rules you simply put them in exclusion before putting them out on the streets.
Is this the standard we can expect from UKIP, set school rules but ignore them when the parents and pupils say so, not the head teacher?
Marty Caine just got owned. (Please excuse the Americanism but I felt It was appropriate).
[quote][p][bold]breamoreboy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Marty Caine UKIP[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]crystal-coast[/bold] wrote: It's ridiculous! It's a pair of shoes and by the picture they are similar to what's lot of people wear in the work world. Ok I understand if they come in with trainers etc but the head teacher shouldn't of just sent them home. They should of waited to hear back from the parents. If I heard my child had been sent home and I received a text I would be fuming. They have a duty of care to these children.[/p][/quote]Wow -16 for making a true point, schools do have a duty of care and if you actually read the article fully, it clearly states that they were turning children away at the gate and one parent did not receive any message until 12:40. That would be some 4 hours after they were sent home. I wonder if the headmaster would like to explain that one. When a parent sends their child to school they expect that school to put their safety first and foremost, this certainly wasn't the case here and that headmaster should be ashamed of himself. If you cannot speak directly to the parents then they remain your responsibility until school finishes, so if they have broken any rules you simply put them in exclusion before putting them out on the streets.[/p][/quote]Is this the standard we can expect from UKIP, set school rules but ignore them when the parents and pupils say so, not the head teacher?[/p][/quote]Marty Caine just got owned. (Please excuse the Americanism but I felt It was appropriate). scrumpyjack
  • Score: 6

1:16am Sat 28 Jun 14

scrumpyjack says...

IAML3GEND wrote:
Chris Hopper wrote:
THIS REPORT IS WRONG. THE HEADMASTER LIED BECAUSE IN THE LAST 4 YEARS NEVER HAD THEY HAD SUCH A ISSUE AND ADRESSED IT WITH "INSPECTION". NEVER HAPPEND.
He also lied about how many students were sent home , over 15 were ( I go to bishop )
Lie? Hope he did otherwise that might be considered libel....

Good luck.
[quote][p][bold]IAML3GEND[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chris Hopper[/bold] wrote: THIS REPORT IS WRONG. THE HEADMASTER LIED BECAUSE IN THE LAST 4 YEARS NEVER HAD THEY HAD SUCH A ISSUE AND ADRESSED IT WITH "INSPECTION". NEVER HAPPEND.[/p][/quote]He also lied about how many students were sent home , over 15 were ( I go to bishop )[/p][/quote]Lie? Hope he did otherwise that might be considered libel.... Good luck. scrumpyjack
  • Score: 3

1:16am Sat 28 Jun 14

scrumpyjack says...

IAML3GEND wrote:
Chris Hopper wrote:
THIS REPORT IS WRONG. THE HEADMASTER LIED BECAUSE IN THE LAST 4 YEARS NEVER HAD THEY HAD SUCH A ISSUE AND ADRESSED IT WITH "INSPECTION". NEVER HAPPEND.
He also lied about how many students were sent home , over 15 were ( I go to bishop )
Lie? Hope he did otherwise that might be considered libel....

Good luck.
[quote][p][bold]IAML3GEND[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chris Hopper[/bold] wrote: THIS REPORT IS WRONG. THE HEADMASTER LIED BECAUSE IN THE LAST 4 YEARS NEVER HAD THEY HAD SUCH A ISSUE AND ADRESSED IT WITH "INSPECTION". NEVER HAPPEND.[/p][/quote]He also lied about how many students were sent home , over 15 were ( I go to bishop )[/p][/quote]Lie? Hope he did otherwise that might be considered libel.... Good luck. scrumpyjack
  • Score: 0

4:38am Sat 28 Jun 14

Old Boscombe Lad says...

If you're a nurse you dress like a nurse. If you're a soccer player you "dress" like a soccer player etc. etc.. If you're a school student and you have a dress code you'd better adhere to it or pay the consequences. There are too many students these days who look like they 've got nothing better to do than flout the dress code that their school has gone to great lengths to set up for them. Be proud of what and who you are. Look the part and quit your -?itching.
If you're a nurse you dress like a nurse. If you're a soccer player you "dress" like a soccer player etc. etc.. If you're a school student and you have a dress code you'd better adhere to it or pay the consequences. There are too many students these days who look like they 've got nothing better to do than flout the dress code that their school has gone to great lengths to set up for them. Be proud of what and who you are. Look the part and quit your -?itching. Old Boscombe Lad
  • Score: 6

7:37am Sat 28 Jun 14

Lord Spring says...

Dorset Logic wrote:
Lord Spring wrote:
vicjoaid wrote:
They did the same in 2010, I agree with the school. When I was at school we had a strict uniform policy and we're sent home if it was wrong. Parents should ensure that children go correctly dressed.
We were not allowed Windsor knots in our ties.
We had bow ties, and a job in the city lined up
Not an Eton Collar !
[quote][p][bold]Dorset Logic[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lord Spring[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]vicjoaid[/bold] wrote: They did the same in 2010, I agree with the school. When I was at school we had a strict uniform policy and we're sent home if it was wrong. Parents should ensure that children go correctly dressed.[/p][/quote]We were not allowed Windsor knots in our ties.[/p][/quote]We had bow ties, and a job in the city lined up[/p][/quote]Not an Eton Collar ! Lord Spring
  • Score: 2

8:13am Sat 28 Jun 14

whersmycuffigcufflinks says...

Remember my great uncle talking to me
told me during the Hitler war that one youth in his year
turned up at school wearing his sisters white dance shoes
dozens of other pupils had holes in their shoes the size of a duck egg a bit of cardboard came in handy, the war lasted for years don't know how many but quite a few.
Remember my great uncle talking to me told me during the Hitler war that one youth in his year turned up at school wearing his sisters white dance shoes dozens of other pupils had holes in their shoes the size of a duck egg a bit of cardboard came in handy, the war lasted for years don't know how many but quite a few. whersmycuffigcufflinks
  • Score: 3

8:20am Sat 28 Jun 14

kalebmoledirt says...

whersmycuffigcufflin
ks
wrote:
Remember my great uncle talking to me
told me during the Hitler war that one youth in his year
turned up at school wearing his sisters white dance shoes
dozens of other pupils had holes in their shoes the size of a duck egg a bit of cardboard came in handy, the war lasted for years don't know how many but quite a few.
Good old days
[quote][p][bold]whersmycuffigcufflin ks[/bold] wrote: Remember my great uncle talking to me told me during the Hitler war that one youth in his year turned up at school wearing his sisters white dance shoes dozens of other pupils had holes in their shoes the size of a duck egg a bit of cardboard came in handy, the war lasted for years don't know how many but quite a few.[/p][/quote]Good old days kalebmoledirt
  • Score: 0

8:38am Sat 28 Jun 14

Twingo says...

These comments are hilarious!
Having had a read and a good chuckle, I have come up with a theory.
57 pupils were told to go home and change due to non-compliance with uniform policy.
The majority did as they were asked, went home, changed, and returned to school.
Special recognition must surely be made to the fact they survived repeating the ordeal of getting to and from school twice in a morning.
Of the original 57, 15 did not return by lunchtime which was when parents were notified.
Therefore, and remember this is only a theory, the 57 were given the opportunity and a timescale to rectify their error. Those who elected not to change by lunchtime were noted as excluded and parents notified accordingly.
Just saying!
These comments are hilarious! Having had a read and a good chuckle, I have come up with a theory. 57 pupils were told to go home and change due to non-compliance with uniform policy. The majority did as they were asked, went home, changed, and returned to school. Special recognition must surely be made to the fact they survived repeating the ordeal of getting to and from school twice in a morning. Of the original 57, 15 did not return by lunchtime which was when parents were notified. Therefore, and remember this is only a theory, the 57 were given the opportunity and a timescale to rectify their error. Those who elected not to change by lunchtime were noted as excluded and parents notified accordingly. Just saying! Twingo
  • Score: 5

9:11am Sat 28 Jun 14

Carolyn43 says...

Question to the parents of the children turned away from the school: How many of you checked the requirements for footwear before taking your child to buy school schools? How many of you chose the shoes for your child? How many of you read the rules and chose your child's shoes, deciding not to stick to the rules? How many of you allowed your child to choose their own shoes regardless of whether or not they conformed to the rules?
Question to the parents of the children turned away from the school: How many of you checked the requirements for footwear before taking your child to buy school schools? How many of you chose the shoes for your child? How many of you read the rules and chose your child's shoes, deciding not to stick to the rules? How many of you allowed your child to choose their own shoes regardless of whether or not they conformed to the rules? Carolyn43
  • Score: 9

10:31am Sat 28 Jun 14

littlecomet says...

I'm actually shocked that they were sent home on their own, my school would never in their wildest dreams have done that! Even at 18 in sixth form (much to our frustration at the time) we were only allowed off site during school time under special circumstances. I've seen it said that they have a duty of care and that's true, there are all sorts of factors to consider - what if the parents are at work and they can't get in the house, what if they don't have any suitable shoes at home and no means to get hold of any etc. ?

I just can't see the logic. Surely putting all the offending students in detention and telling them to turn up in proper uniform the next day is a much better solution. If they show up in the wrong uniform again, give them detention again. Far less disruptive.

And in my opinion there's nothing wrong with those shoes (apart from them being bad for your feet, people have been telling me that for years) and I wear a pair just like that to work most days!
I'm actually shocked that they were sent home on their own, my school would never in their wildest dreams have done that! Even at 18 in sixth form (much to our frustration at the time) we were only allowed off site during school time under special circumstances. I've seen it said that they have a duty of care and that's true, there are all sorts of factors to consider - what if the parents are at work and they can't get in the house, what if they don't have any suitable shoes at home and no means to get hold of any etc. ? I just can't see the logic. Surely putting all the offending students in detention and telling them to turn up in proper uniform the next day is a much better solution. If they show up in the wrong uniform again, give them detention again. Far less disruptive. And in my opinion there's nothing wrong with those shoes (apart from them being bad for your feet, people have been telling me that for years) and I wear a pair just like that to work most days! littlecomet
  • Score: -4

10:36am Sat 28 Jun 14

mudefordguy says...

rednblack37 wrote:
mudefordguy wrote:
echor23 wrote:
Whilst I support the head in doing uniform checks and disciplining students without the correct unifrom as he is evidently trying to promote a healthy and good ethos within the school info find it quite barbaric that children were sent home alone to change!
They should have all had their parents called to come and collect them safely or be reprimanded by detention or otherwise.
What position would the head be in now should one of those children been knocked over, attacked or even kidnapped?
We leave our children at home under the safe knowledge that they are in that vicinity for the entire day, within those walls and safe from the outside world. Has this been my own child I would take this legally as had I found my own child wandering the streets with no bus fare I'm not sure I would feel comfortable with them entering the school again.
Parents would have been told the policy when sending their kids there. Don't like it? Think you know better? Send the kids somewhere else.
Pathetic response. Your children go to the school they're in a catchment area for (even then you can be turned down if it's oversubscribed and they have to go to a second choice school), you can't just send them anywhere. If I went to a meeting to find out about a school and was told the policy was to inspect school uniform at the gate and send home straight away, I would be stunned! I would in touch with my MP to find out if this was on official advice from the education department. Because I'm all for discipline and teaching children standards and if their uniform is wrong they should receive a punishment - but sending CHILDREN back onto the streets when the parents think their in school is just amazingly irresponsible. Sending parents a text is a massive cop-out too - it's called a phone for a reason- you can actually SPEAK to people on it too - in my job, I'm frequently in bad signal areas and a lot of people do jobs where their phone is in a locker for hours. This way of dealing with wrong uniform is not the answer - a child could have ended up killed or abducted as a result of this schools actions, there's plenty of weirdos out there.
And these 'children' are fine walking and hanging around the streets outside of school hours and and at weeks though? This exactly what's wrong with this country these days - nobody can take responsibility - it's far easier to blame the someone else / the authorities.
[quote][p][bold]rednblack37[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mudefordguy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]echor23[/bold] wrote: Whilst I support the head in doing uniform checks and disciplining students without the correct unifrom as he is evidently trying to promote a healthy and good ethos within the school info find it quite barbaric that children were sent home alone to change! They should have all had their parents called to come and collect them safely or be reprimanded by detention or otherwise. What position would the head be in now should one of those children been knocked over, attacked or even kidnapped? We leave our children at home under the safe knowledge that they are in that vicinity for the entire day, within those walls and safe from the outside world. Has this been my own child I would take this legally as had I found my own child wandering the streets with no bus fare I'm not sure I would feel comfortable with them entering the school again.[/p][/quote]Parents would have been told the policy when sending their kids there. Don't like it? Think you know better? Send the kids somewhere else.[/p][/quote]Pathetic response. Your children go to the school they're in a catchment area for (even then you can be turned down if it's oversubscribed and they have to go to a second choice school), you can't just send them anywhere. If I went to a meeting to find out about a school and was told the policy was to inspect school uniform at the gate and send home straight away, I would be stunned! I would in touch with my MP to find out if this was on official advice from the education department. Because I'm all for discipline and teaching children standards and if their uniform is wrong they should receive a punishment - but sending CHILDREN back onto the streets when the parents think their in school is just amazingly irresponsible. Sending parents a text is a massive cop-out too - it's called a phone for a reason- you can actually SPEAK to people on it too - in my job, I'm frequently in bad signal areas and a lot of people do jobs where their phone is in a locker for hours. This way of dealing with wrong uniform is not the answer - a child could have ended up killed or abducted as a result of this schools actions, there's plenty of weirdos out there.[/p][/quote]And these 'children' are fine walking and hanging around the streets outside of school hours and and at weeks though? This exactly what's wrong with this country these days - nobody can take responsibility - it's far easier to blame the someone else / the authorities. mudefordguy
  • Score: 8

12:04pm Sat 28 Jun 14

DementedGoat says...

answer 123 wrote:
DementedGoat wrote:
All these positive comments I've seen, how can they be believed.
They could be false accounts created by members of Staff from the Academy.
How can this forum, present a fair and impartial platform
Do you really believe teachers have the time to waste ! Try working as hard as many of them...My daughter is a senior teacher, her hours very often are from 6am until 1.30 am marking at home evenings and weekend's oh and of course holidays !
Yeah, yeah, course she does, all teachers do is moan and complain.
What other profession gets the holiday they do, they should try getting proper jobs, like working in the NHS, or the Military, then they would know what hard work really was
[quote][p][bold]answer 123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DementedGoat[/bold] wrote: All these positive comments I've seen, how can they be believed. They could be false accounts created by members of Staff from the Academy. How can this forum, present a fair and impartial platform[/p][/quote]Do you really believe teachers have the time to waste ! Try working as hard as many of them...My daughter is a senior teacher, her hours very often are from 6am until 1.30 am marking at home evenings and weekend's oh and of course holidays ![/p][/quote]Yeah, yeah, course she does, all teachers do is moan and complain. What other profession gets the holiday they do, they should try getting proper jobs, like working in the NHS, or the Military, then they would know what hard work really was DementedGoat
  • Score: -8

12:06pm Sat 28 Jun 14

DementedGoat says...

DementedGoat wrote:
answer 123 wrote:
DementedGoat wrote:
All these positive comments I've seen, how can they be believed.
They could be false accounts created by members of Staff from the Academy.
How can this forum, present a fair and impartial platform
Do you really believe teachers have the time to waste ! Try working as hard as many of them...My daughter is a senior teacher, her hours very often are from 6am until 1.30 am marking at home evenings and weekend's oh and of course holidays !
Yeah, yeah, course she does, all teachers do is moan and complain.
What other profession gets the holiday they do, they should try getting proper jobs, like working in the NHS, or the Military, then they would know what hard work really was
Oh perhaps if your daughter was better organised, and did her job properly then she may have more time on her hands!
[quote][p][bold]DementedGoat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]answer 123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DementedGoat[/bold] wrote: All these positive comments I've seen, how can they be believed. They could be false accounts created by members of Staff from the Academy. How can this forum, present a fair and impartial platform[/p][/quote]Do you really believe teachers have the time to waste ! Try working as hard as many of them...My daughter is a senior teacher, her hours very often are from 6am until 1.30 am marking at home evenings and weekend's oh and of course holidays ![/p][/quote]Yeah, yeah, course she does, all teachers do is moan and complain. What other profession gets the holiday they do, they should try getting proper jobs, like working in the NHS, or the Military, then they would know what hard work really was[/p][/quote]Oh perhaps if your daughter was better organised, and did her job properly then she may have more time on her hands! DementedGoat
  • Score: -7

12:06pm Sat 28 Jun 14

DementedGoat says...

DementedGoat wrote:
answer 123 wrote:
DementedGoat wrote:
All these positive comments I've seen, how can they be believed.
They could be false accounts created by members of Staff from the Academy.
How can this forum, present a fair and impartial platform
Do you really believe teachers have the time to waste ! Try working as hard as many of them...My daughter is a senior teacher, her hours very often are from 6am until 1.30 am marking at home evenings and weekend's oh and of course holidays !
Yeah, yeah, course she does, all teachers do is moan and complain.
What other profession gets the holiday they do, they should try getting proper jobs, like working in the NHS, or the Military, then they would know what hard work really was
Oh perhaps if your daughter was better organised, and did her job properly then she may have more time on her hands!
[quote][p][bold]DementedGoat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]answer 123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DementedGoat[/bold] wrote: All these positive comments I've seen, how can they be believed. They could be false accounts created by members of Staff from the Academy. How can this forum, present a fair and impartial platform[/p][/quote]Do you really believe teachers have the time to waste ! Try working as hard as many of them...My daughter is a senior teacher, her hours very often are from 6am until 1.30 am marking at home evenings and weekend's oh and of course holidays ![/p][/quote]Yeah, yeah, course she does, all teachers do is moan and complain. What other profession gets the holiday they do, they should try getting proper jobs, like working in the NHS, or the Military, then they would know what hard work really was[/p][/quote]Oh perhaps if your daughter was better organised, and did her job properly then she may have more time on her hands! DementedGoat
  • Score: -4

3:34pm Sat 28 Jun 14

Rally says...

TheDistrict wrote:
Does the footwear really matter, unless of course they are dirty sports wear. If they are clean, what difference does it make. Surely the Headmaster must know that the brain is in the head, and not in the feet. The preference should be on how the student is at school work, and good progression towards exams and future education and work.

Our children are let down enough these days without having their learning seat removed from them.
TheDistrict, children need discipline; it is a fact of life.
If children are permitted to wear whatever type of footwear they wish when attending their school, then what is to stop them from choosing also what type and colour of trousers, skirt, blouse, top, etc., they wear?
A line has to be drawn somewhere, but wherever this line is drawn there will be some parent somewhere howling in protest at its draconian unfairness, etc., etc.
What puzzles me most about this incident is how some parents/guardians do not, so it would seem, give their children a house key to access their own home when they (the parent/guardian) cannot be there to let them in.
On top of this, I find it highly unlikely that the children who were turned away from the Academy did not have access to a telephone, and thus were unable to contact their parent/guardian or indeed anybody else that could have taken care of them pro tem.

One last point (but here with tongue firmly in cheek): I can't help but wonder whether 'mad mrs ' and 'peace77' are very closely related . . .
[quote][p][bold]TheDistrict[/bold] wrote: Does the footwear really matter, unless of course they are dirty sports wear. If they are clean, what difference does it make. Surely the Headmaster must know that the brain is in the head, and not in the feet. The preference should be on how the student is at school work, and good progression towards exams and future education and work. Our children are let down enough these days without having their learning seat removed from them.[/p][/quote]TheDistrict, children need discipline; it is a fact of life. If children are permitted to wear whatever type of footwear they wish when attending their school, then what is to stop them from choosing also what type and colour of trousers, skirt, blouse, top, etc., they wear? A line has to be drawn somewhere, but wherever this line is drawn there will be some parent somewhere howling in protest at its draconian unfairness, etc., etc. What puzzles me most about this incident is how some parents/guardians do not, so it would seem, give their children a house key to access their own home when they (the parent/guardian) cannot be there to let them in. On top of this, I find it highly unlikely that the children who were turned away from the Academy did not have access to a telephone, and thus were unable to contact their parent/guardian or indeed anybody else that could have taken care of them pro tem. One last point (but here with tongue firmly in cheek): I can't help but wonder whether 'mad mrs ' and 'peace77' are very closely related . . . Rally
  • Score: 3

3:45pm Sat 28 Jun 14

Rally says...

kalebmoledirt wrote:
whersmycuffigcufflin

ks
wrote:
Remember my great uncle talking to me
told me during the Hitler war that one youth in his year
turned up at school wearing his sisters white dance shoes
dozens of other pupils had holes in their shoes the size of a duck egg a bit of cardboard came in handy, the war lasted for years don't know how many but quite a few.
Good old days
The Blitz, D-Day, Leningrad, the Holocaust, horror-heaped-upon-h
orror from 1939 to 1945 - 'Good old days' indeed. . .
[quote][p][bold]kalebmoledirt[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]whersmycuffigcufflin ks[/bold] wrote: Remember my great uncle talking to me told me during the Hitler war that one youth in his year turned up at school wearing his sisters white dance shoes dozens of other pupils had holes in their shoes the size of a duck egg a bit of cardboard came in handy, the war lasted for years don't know how many but quite a few.[/p][/quote]Good old days[/p][/quote]The Blitz, D-Day, Leningrad, the Holocaust, horror-heaped-upon-h orror from 1939 to 1945 - 'Good old days' indeed. . . Rally
  • Score: 1

4:05pm Sat 28 Jun 14

dwarfshorty says...

user_name wrote:
love the parents comment 'I came home from doing the school run and she and her friends were sitting on the pavement revising'. Is that really true, or just put in to make her sound like a perfect committed student that has been wronged?
Well I believe she was revising as I am in her class and we did have an English assessment on that day and she and many more than the 15 will have to do it next week when they should be learning
[quote][p][bold]user_name[/bold] wrote: love the parents comment 'I came home from doing the school run and she and her friends were sitting on the pavement revising'. Is that really true, or just put in to make her sound like a perfect committed student that has been wronged?[/p][/quote]Well I believe she was revising as I am in her class and we did have an English assessment on that day and she and many more than the 15 will have to do it next week when they should be learning dwarfshorty
  • Score: -1

7:10pm Sat 28 Jun 14

Carolyn43 says...

dwarfshorty wrote:
user_name wrote:
love the parents comment 'I came home from doing the school run and she and her friends were sitting on the pavement revising'. Is that really true, or just put in to make her sound like a perfect committed student that has been wronged?
Well I believe she was revising as I am in her class and we did have an English assessment on that day and she and many more than the 15 will have to do it next week when they should be learning
So were ALL her friends revising with her turned away for having the wrong shoes?

DementedGoat, as for those who keep criticising teachers as not doing a proper job, I say "Try it!". You'll then find out the truth rather than jealously speculating on something you know nothing about. You'll soon find out it isn't as easy as you seem to think it is. Next you'll be saying fire fighters do nothing if they're not attending fires, but just play snooker or watch TV all day.
[quote][p][bold]dwarfshorty[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]user_name[/bold] wrote: love the parents comment 'I came home from doing the school run and she and her friends were sitting on the pavement revising'. Is that really true, or just put in to make her sound like a perfect committed student that has been wronged?[/p][/quote]Well I believe she was revising as I am in her class and we did have an English assessment on that day and she and many more than the 15 will have to do it next week when they should be learning[/p][/quote]So were ALL her friends revising with her turned away for having the wrong shoes? DementedGoat, as for those who keep criticising teachers as not doing a proper job, I say "Try it!". You'll then find out the truth rather than jealously speculating on something you know nothing about. You'll soon find out it isn't as easy as you seem to think it is. Next you'll be saying fire fighters do nothing if they're not attending fires, but just play snooker or watch TV all day. Carolyn43
  • Score: 2

8:20pm Sat 28 Jun 14

breamoreboy says...

Carolyn43 wrote:
Question to the parents of the children turned away from the school: How many of you checked the requirements for footwear before taking your child to buy school schools? How many of you chose the shoes for your child? How many of you read the rules and chose your child's shoes, deciding not to stick to the rules? How many of you allowed your child to choose their own shoes regardless of whether or not they conformed to the rules?
All together now "Who wares school schools?..." :-)
[quote][p][bold]Carolyn43[/bold] wrote: Question to the parents of the children turned away from the school: How many of you checked the requirements for footwear before taking your child to buy school schools? How many of you chose the shoes for your child? How many of you read the rules and chose your child's shoes, deciding not to stick to the rules? How many of you allowed your child to choose their own shoes regardless of whether or not they conformed to the rules?[/p][/quote]All together now "Who wares school schools?..." :-) breamoreboy
  • Score: 0

8:21pm Sat 28 Jun 14

breamoreboy says...

breamoreboy wrote:
Carolyn43 wrote:
Question to the parents of the children turned away from the school: How many of you checked the requirements for footwear before taking your child to buy school schools? How many of you chose the shoes for your child? How many of you read the rules and chose your child's shoes, deciding not to stick to the rules? How many of you allowed your child to choose their own shoes regardless of whether or not they conformed to the rules?
All together now "Who wares school schools?..." :-)
Blast, hoisted by my own petard, note to self, it's "wears" idiot!!!
[quote][p][bold]breamoreboy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Carolyn43[/bold] wrote: Question to the parents of the children turned away from the school: How many of you checked the requirements for footwear before taking your child to buy school schools? How many of you chose the shoes for your child? How many of you read the rules and chose your child's shoes, deciding not to stick to the rules? How many of you allowed your child to choose their own shoes regardless of whether or not they conformed to the rules?[/p][/quote]All together now "Who wares school schools?..." :-)[/p][/quote]Blast, hoisted by my own petard, note to self, it's "wears" idiot!!! breamoreboy
  • Score: -1

8:26pm Sat 28 Jun 14

breamoreboy says...

DementedGoat wrote:
answer 123 wrote:
DementedGoat wrote:
All these positive comments I've seen, how can they be believed.
They could be false accounts created by members of Staff from the Academy.
How can this forum, present a fair and impartial platform
Do you really believe teachers have the time to waste ! Try working as hard as many of them...My daughter is a senior teacher, her hours very often are from 6am until 1.30 am marking at home evenings and weekend's oh and of course holidays !
Yeah, yeah, course she does, all teachers do is moan and complain.
What other profession gets the holiday they do, they should try getting proper jobs, like working in the NHS, or the Military, then they would know what hard work really was
If all teachers were to quit for a "proper job" who would educate everybody else so that they could get a "proper job"?
[quote][p][bold]DementedGoat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]answer 123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DementedGoat[/bold] wrote: All these positive comments I've seen, how can they be believed. They could be false accounts created by members of Staff from the Academy. How can this forum, present a fair and impartial platform[/p][/quote]Do you really believe teachers have the time to waste ! Try working as hard as many of them...My daughter is a senior teacher, her hours very often are from 6am until 1.30 am marking at home evenings and weekend's oh and of course holidays ![/p][/quote]Yeah, yeah, course she does, all teachers do is moan and complain. What other profession gets the holiday they do, they should try getting proper jobs, like working in the NHS, or the Military, then they would know what hard work really was[/p][/quote]If all teachers were to quit for a "proper job" who would educate everybody else so that they could get a "proper job"? breamoreboy
  • Score: 5

8:33pm Sat 28 Jun 14

breamoreboy says...

Rally wrote:
kalebmoledirt wrote:
whersmycuffigcufflin


ks
wrote:
Remember my great uncle talking to me
told me during the Hitler war that one youth in his year
turned up at school wearing his sisters white dance shoes
dozens of other pupils had holes in their shoes the size of a duck egg a bit of cardboard came in handy, the war lasted for years don't know how many but quite a few.
Good old days
The Blitz, D-Day, Leningrad, the Holocaust, horror-heaped-upon-h

orror from 1939 to 1945 - 'Good old days' indeed. . .
Only according to western historians. Some Asian historians argue, quite justifiably in some ways, that the fighting between Japan and China in the 1930s can be considered the start of WWII. Further how many people know that the Soviets thrashed nine balls of hell out of the Japanese in 1939. A gentleman by the name of Zhukov made his name there. Does that ring any bells with anybody?
[quote][p][bold]Rally[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kalebmoledirt[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]whersmycuffigcufflin ks[/bold] wrote: Remember my great uncle talking to me told me during the Hitler war that one youth in his year turned up at school wearing his sisters white dance shoes dozens of other pupils had holes in their shoes the size of a duck egg a bit of cardboard came in handy, the war lasted for years don't know how many but quite a few.[/p][/quote]Good old days[/p][/quote]The Blitz, D-Day, Leningrad, the Holocaust, horror-heaped-upon-h orror from 1939 to 1945 - 'Good old days' indeed. . .[/p][/quote]Only according to western historians. Some Asian historians argue, quite justifiably in some ways, that the fighting between Japan and China in the 1930s can be considered the start of WWII. Further how many people know that the Soviets thrashed nine balls of hell out of the Japanese in 1939. A gentleman by the name of Zhukov made his name there. Does that ring any bells with anybody? breamoreboy
  • Score: -2

10:43pm Sat 28 Jun 14

Eamon says...

Bournemouth100 wrote:
Here's a thought.....abide by the rules next time.
I can't claim to read the 190 comments on this story. But I find funny that the 20 or so I have read (and judging by the likes) are very unforgiving and love the stick by rules mentality when it comes to school kids and uniform.

However when it comes to speeding or parking fines there is a polar opposite opinion. Makes me question who are the kids and who are the adults.
[quote][p][bold]Bournemouth100[/bold] wrote: Here's a thought.....abide by the rules next time.[/p][/quote]I can't claim to read the 190 comments on this story. But I find funny that the 20 or so I have read (and judging by the likes) are very unforgiving and love the stick by rules mentality when it comes to school kids and uniform. However when it comes to speeding or parking fines there is a polar opposite opinion. Makes me question who are the kids and who are the adults. Eamon
  • Score: -3

11:46pm Sat 28 Jun 14

guisselle says...

If the shoe fits wear it and, Cinderella shall go to the ball. Appropriate shoe
would be, a nice brogue in black leather or soft vinyl. The school could have
their own specific design to be sold on the premises. Hotter shoes are a
good company!
If the shoe fits wear it and, Cinderella shall go to the ball. Appropriate shoe would be, a nice brogue in black leather or soft vinyl. The school could have their own specific design to be sold on the premises. Hotter shoes are a good company! guisselle
  • Score: -2

10:13am Sun 29 Jun 14

Peter Capaldi says...

breamoreboy wrote:
DementedGoat wrote:
answer 123 wrote:
DementedGoat wrote:
All these positive comments I've seen, how can they be believed.
They could be false accounts created by members of Staff from the Academy.
How can this forum, present a fair and impartial platform
Do you really believe teachers have the time to waste ! Try working as hard as many of them...My daughter is a senior teacher, her hours very often are from 6am until 1.30 am marking at home evenings and weekend's oh and of course holidays !
Yeah, yeah, course she does, all teachers do is moan and complain.
What other profession gets the holiday they do, they should try getting proper jobs, like working in the NHS, or the Military, then they would know what hard work really was
If all teachers were to quit for a "proper job" who would educate everybody else so that they could get a "proper job"?
I wonder if Mr Sheldon has a "proper" job and am sure he does......
[quote][p][bold]breamoreboy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DementedGoat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]answer 123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DementedGoat[/bold] wrote: All these positive comments I've seen, how can they be believed. They could be false accounts created by members of Staff from the Academy. How can this forum, present a fair and impartial platform[/p][/quote]Do you really believe teachers have the time to waste ! Try working as hard as many of them...My daughter is a senior teacher, her hours very often are from 6am until 1.30 am marking at home evenings and weekend's oh and of course holidays ![/p][/quote]Yeah, yeah, course she does, all teachers do is moan and complain. What other profession gets the holiday they do, they should try getting proper jobs, like working in the NHS, or the Military, then they would know what hard work really was[/p][/quote]If all teachers were to quit for a "proper job" who would educate everybody else so that they could get a "proper job"?[/p][/quote]I wonder if Mr Sheldon has a "proper" job and am sure he does...... Peter Capaldi
  • Score: 3

10:25am Sun 29 Jun 14

Peter Capaldi says...

DementedGoat wrote:
DementedGoat wrote:
answer 123 wrote:
DementedGoat wrote:
All these positive comments I've seen, how can they be believed.
They could be false accounts created by members of Staff from the Academy.
How can this forum, present a fair and impartial platform
Do you really believe teachers have the time to waste ! Try working as hard as many of them...My daughter is a senior teacher, her hours very often are from 6am until 1.30 am marking at home evenings and weekend's oh and of course holidays !
Yeah, yeah, course she does, all teachers do is moan and complain.
What other profession gets the holiday they do, they should try getting proper jobs, like working in the NHS, or the Military, then they would know what hard work really was
Oh perhaps if your daughter was better organised, and did her job properly then she may have more time on her hands!
Maybe Mr. Sheldon is an undercover teacher he doesn't seem to have a proper job......
[quote][p][bold]DementedGoat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DementedGoat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]answer 123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DementedGoat[/bold] wrote: All these positive comments I've seen, how can they be believed. They could be false accounts created by members of Staff from the Academy. How can this forum, present a fair and impartial platform[/p][/quote]Do you really believe teachers have the time to waste ! Try working as hard as many of them...My daughter is a senior teacher, her hours very often are from 6am until 1.30 am marking at home evenings and weekend's oh and of course holidays ![/p][/quote]Yeah, yeah, course she does, all teachers do is moan and complain. What other profession gets the holiday they do, they should try getting proper jobs, like working in the NHS, or the Military, then they would know what hard work really was[/p][/quote]Oh perhaps if your daughter was better organised, and did her job properly then she may have more time on her hands![/p][/quote]Maybe Mr. Sheldon is an undercover teacher he doesn't seem to have a proper job...... Peter Capaldi
  • Score: 4

10:37am Sun 29 Jun 14

echor23 says...

mudefordguy wrote:
rednblack37 wrote:
mudefordguy wrote:
echor23 wrote:
Whilst I support the head in doing uniform checks and disciplining students without the correct unifrom as he is evidently trying to promote a healthy and good ethos within the school info find it quite barbaric that children were sent home alone to change!
They should have all had their parents called to come and collect them safely or be reprimanded by detention or otherwise.
What position would the head be in now should one of those children been knocked over, attacked or even kidnapped?
We leave our children at home under the safe knowledge that they are in that vicinity for the entire day, within those walls and safe from the outside world. Has this been my own child I would take this legally as had I found my own child wandering the streets with no bus fare I'm not sure I would feel comfortable with them entering the school again.
Parents would have been told the policy when sending their kids there. Don't like it? Think you know better? Send the kids somewhere else.
Pathetic response. Your children go to the school they're in a catchment area for (even then you can be turned down if it's oversubscribed and they have to go to a second choice school), you can't just send them anywhere. If I went to a meeting to find out about a school and was told the policy was to inspect school uniform at the gate and send home straight away, I would be stunned! I would in touch with my MP to find out if this was on official advice from the education department. Because I'm all for discipline and teaching children standards and if their uniform is wrong they should receive a punishment - but sending CHILDREN back onto the streets when the parents think their in school is just amazingly irresponsible. Sending parents a text is a massive cop-out too - it's called a phone for a reason- you can actually SPEAK to people on it too - in my job, I'm frequently in bad signal areas and a lot of people do jobs where their phone is in a locker for hours. This way of dealing with wrong uniform is not the answer - a child could have ended up killed or abducted as a result of this schools actions, there's plenty of weirdos out there.
And these 'children' are fine walking and hanging around the streets outside of school hours and and at weeks though? This exactly what's wrong with this country these days - nobody can take responsibility - it's far easier to blame the someone else / the authorities.
I'm not sure I or the other lady have stated it is fine for children to walk streets after school or otherwise! In fact you have taken it completely out of context once again! Personally it is never 'alright' for my children to be out on the streets! I find it disgusting that children play on the streets as children should have a decent home and garden to have friends round to play and vice versa. Also any child that 'hangs around' anywhere clearly don't have the parental support they need or desire.
Children should not be alone to walk streets any time of day!
Also I might add myself and my family did indeed move specifically to gain access to a good school and yes you have to be in catchment and yes the school has to have places but when you care enough for your children you go out of your way to gain them a good education and we did, have and do just that!
What astounds me about several of these comments is the clear lack of care that parents have over their kids nowadays! Children are allowed to play in the streets, to hang around corners, to be out without their parents knowing where they are and yet not one of these parents sees this as wrong! It's utterly astounding! From the moment my children were born to the moment they are 18 I shall know where they are and who they are with and no I'm sure they won't be Angels but I will to the best of my ability keep them safe as any good parent should do and yet so many parents don't do nowadays!
[quote][p][bold]mudefordguy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rednblack37[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mudefordguy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]echor23[/bold] wrote: Whilst I support the head in doing uniform checks and disciplining students without the correct unifrom as he is evidently trying to promote a healthy and good ethos within the school info find it quite barbaric that children were sent home alone to change! They should have all had their parents called to come and collect them safely or be reprimanded by detention or otherwise. What position would the head be in now should one of those children been knocked over, attacked or even kidnapped? We leave our children at home under the safe knowledge that they are in that vicinity for the entire day, within those walls and safe from the outside world. Has this been my own child I would take this legally as had I found my own child wandering the streets with no bus fare I'm not sure I would feel comfortable with them entering the school again.[/p][/quote]Parents would have been told the policy when sending their kids there. Don't like it? Think you know better? Send the kids somewhere else.[/p][/quote]Pathetic response. Your children go to the school they're in a catchment area for (even then you can be turned down if it's oversubscribed and they have to go to a second choice school), you can't just send them anywhere. If I went to a meeting to find out about a school and was told the policy was to inspect school uniform at the gate and send home straight away, I would be stunned! I would in touch with my MP to find out if this was on official advice from the education department. Because I'm all for discipline and teaching children standards and if their uniform is wrong they should receive a punishment - but sending CHILDREN back onto the streets when the parents think their in school is just amazingly irresponsible. Sending parents a text is a massive cop-out too - it's called a phone for a reason- you can actually SPEAK to people on it too - in my job, I'm frequently in bad signal areas and a lot of people do jobs where their phone is in a locker for hours. This way of dealing with wrong uniform is not the answer - a child could have ended up killed or abducted as a result of this schools actions, there's plenty of weirdos out there.[/p][/quote]And these 'children' are fine walking and hanging around the streets outside of school hours and and at weeks though? This exactly what's wrong with this country these days - nobody can take responsibility - it's far easier to blame the someone else / the authorities.[/p][/quote]I'm not sure I or the other lady have stated it is fine for children to walk streets after school or otherwise! In fact you have taken it completely out of context once again! Personally it is never 'alright' for my children to be out on the streets! I find it disgusting that children play on the streets as children should have a decent home and garden to have friends round to play and vice versa. Also any child that 'hangs around' anywhere clearly don't have the parental support they need or desire. Children should not be alone to walk streets any time of day! Also I might add myself and my family did indeed move specifically to gain access to a good school and yes you have to be in catchment and yes the school has to have places but when you care enough for your children you go out of your way to gain them a good education and we did, have and do just that! What astounds me about several of these comments is the clear lack of care that parents have over their kids nowadays! Children are allowed to play in the streets, to hang around corners, to be out without their parents knowing where they are and yet not one of these parents sees this as wrong! It's utterly astounding! From the moment my children were born to the moment they are 18 I shall know where they are and who they are with and no I'm sure they won't be Angels but I will to the best of my ability keep them safe as any good parent should do and yet so many parents don't do nowadays! echor23
  • Score: -3

10:46am Sun 29 Jun 14

Peter Capaldi says...

DementedGoat wrote:
answer 123 wrote:
DementedGoat wrote:
All these positive comments I've seen, how can they be believed.
They could be false accounts created by members of Staff from the Academy.
How can this forum, present a fair and impartial platform
Do you really believe teachers have the time to waste ! Try working as hard as many of them...My daughter is a senior teacher, her hours very often are from 6am until 1.30 am marking at home evenings and weekend's oh and of course holidays !
Yeah, yeah, course she does, all teachers do is moan and complain.
What other profession gets the holiday they do, they should try getting proper jobs, like working in the NHS, or the Military, then they would know what hard work really was
I wonder if Courtney and Shannon are going to get proper jobs when they leave school. I do hope they do, perhaps successful careers in teaching. I've heard the job description mainly consists of moaning and complaining.......
[quote][p][bold]DementedGoat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]answer 123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DementedGoat[/bold] wrote: All these positive comments I've seen, how can they be believed. They could be false accounts created by members of Staff from the Academy. How can this forum, present a fair and impartial platform[/p][/quote]Do you really believe teachers have the time to waste ! Try working as hard as many of them...My daughter is a senior teacher, her hours very often are from 6am until 1.30 am marking at home evenings and weekend's oh and of course holidays ![/p][/quote]Yeah, yeah, course she does, all teachers do is moan and complain. What other profession gets the holiday they do, they should try getting proper jobs, like working in the NHS, or the Military, then they would know what hard work really was[/p][/quote]I wonder if Courtney and Shannon are going to get proper jobs when they leave school. I do hope they do, perhaps successful careers in teaching. I've heard the job description mainly consists of moaning and complaining....... Peter Capaldi
  • Score: 3

10:50am Sun 29 Jun 14

Peter Capaldi says...

Carolyn43 wrote:
dwarfshorty wrote:
user_name wrote:
love the parents comment 'I came home from doing the school run and she and her friends were sitting on the pavement revising'. Is that really true, or just put in to make her sound like a perfect committed student that has been wronged?
Well I believe she was revising as I am in her class and we did have an English assessment on that day and she and many more than the 15 will have to do it next week when they should be learning
So were ALL her friends revising with her turned away for having the wrong shoes?

DementedGoat, as for those who keep criticising teachers as not doing a proper job, I say "Try it!". You'll then find out the truth rather than jealously speculating on something you know nothing about. You'll soon find out it isn't as easy as you seem to think it is. Next you'll be saying fire fighters do nothing if they're not attending fires, but just play snooker or watch TV all day.
That's it....perhaps Mr. Sheldon is a fire fighter!
[quote][p][bold]Carolyn43[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dwarfshorty[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]user_name[/bold] wrote: love the parents comment 'I came home from doing the school run and she and her friends were sitting on the pavement revising'. Is that really true, or just put in to make her sound like a perfect committed student that has been wronged?[/p][/quote]Well I believe she was revising as I am in her class and we did have an English assessment on that day and she and many more than the 15 will have to do it next week when they should be learning[/p][/quote]So were ALL her friends revising with her turned away for having the wrong shoes? DementedGoat, as for those who keep criticising teachers as not doing a proper job, I say "Try it!". You'll then find out the truth rather than jealously speculating on something you know nothing about. You'll soon find out it isn't as easy as you seem to think it is. Next you'll be saying fire fighters do nothing if they're not attending fires, but just play snooker or watch TV all day.[/p][/quote]That's it....perhaps Mr. Sheldon is a fire fighter! Peter Capaldi
  • Score: 1

11:30am Sun 29 Jun 14

Carolyn43 says...

echor23 wrote:
mudefordguy wrote:
rednblack37 wrote:
mudefordguy wrote:
echor23 wrote:
Whilst I support the head in doing uniform checks and disciplining students without the correct unifrom as he is evidently trying to promote a healthy and good ethos within the school info find it quite barbaric that children were sent home alone to change!
They should have all had their parents called to come and collect them safely or be reprimanded by detention or otherwise.
What position would the head be in now should one of those children been knocked over, attacked or even kidnapped?
We leave our children at home under the safe knowledge that they are in that vicinity for the entire day, within those walls and safe from the outside world. Has this been my own child I would take this legally as had I found my own child wandering the streets with no bus fare I'm not sure I would feel comfortable with them entering the school again.
Parents would have been told the policy when sending their kids there. Don't like it? Think you know better? Send the kids somewhere else.
Pathetic response. Your children go to the school they're in a catchment area for (even then you can be turned down if it's oversubscribed and they have to go to a second choice school), you can't just send them anywhere. If I went to a meeting to find out about a school and was told the policy was to inspect school uniform at the gate and send home straight away, I would be stunned! I would in touch with my MP to find out if this was on official advice from the education department. Because I'm all for discipline and teaching children standards and if their uniform is wrong they should receive a punishment - but sending CHILDREN back onto the streets when the parents think their in school is just amazingly irresponsible. Sending parents a text is a massive cop-out too - it's called a phone for a reason- you can actually SPEAK to people on it too - in my job, I'm frequently in bad signal areas and a lot of people do jobs where their phone is in a locker for hours. This way of dealing with wrong uniform is not the answer - a child could have ended up killed or abducted as a result of this schools actions, there's plenty of weirdos out there.
And these 'children' are fine walking and hanging around the streets outside of school hours and and at weeks though? This exactly what's wrong with this country these days - nobody can take responsibility - it's far easier to blame the someone else / the authorities.
I'm not sure I or the other lady have stated it is fine for children to walk streets after school or otherwise! In fact you have taken it completely out of context once again! Personally it is never 'alright' for my children to be out on the streets! I find it disgusting that children play on the streets as children should have a decent home and garden to have friends round to play and vice versa. Also any child that 'hangs around' anywhere clearly don't have the parental support they need or desire.
Children should not be alone to walk streets any time of day!
Also I might add myself and my family did indeed move specifically to gain access to a good school and yes you have to be in catchment and yes the school has to have places but when you care enough for your children you go out of your way to gain them a good education and we did, have and do just that!
What astounds me about several of these comments is the clear lack of care that parents have over their kids nowadays! Children are allowed to play in the streets, to hang around corners, to be out without their parents knowing where they are and yet not one of these parents sees this as wrong! It's utterly astounding! From the moment my children were born to the moment they are 18 I shall know where they are and who they are with and no I'm sure they won't be Angels but I will to the best of my ability keep them safe as any good parent should do and yet so many parents don't do nowadays!
I hope you do know where you are. When I was teaching (not in Dorset) we were on a rota with the local police force, going into the local nightclubs to identify under 18s before young people's ID cards were in use. (Note we therefore didn't stop working when school did) They thought we would be able to assess the age of teenagers better than them because we dealt with them on a daily basis and could spot the tell-tale signs of someone not being an adult.

It only amazed me for the first couple of times we took 15 year-olds home when their parents thought they were safely in their bedrooms - there are other ways to get out of a house than through the front or back door.
[quote][p][bold]echor23[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mudefordguy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rednblack37[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mudefordguy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]echor23[/bold] wrote: Whilst I support the head in doing uniform checks and disciplining students without the correct unifrom as he is evidently trying to promote a healthy and good ethos within the school info find it quite barbaric that children were sent home alone to change! They should have all had their parents called to come and collect them safely or be reprimanded by detention or otherwise. What position would the head be in now should one of those children been knocked over, attacked or even kidnapped? We leave our children at home under the safe knowledge that they are in that vicinity for the entire day, within those walls and safe from the outside world. Has this been my own child I would take this legally as had I found my own child wandering the streets with no bus fare I'm not sure I would feel comfortable with them entering the school again.[/p][/quote]Parents would have been told the policy when sending their kids there. Don't like it? Think you know better? Send the kids somewhere else.[/p][/quote]Pathetic response. Your children go to the school they're in a catchment area for (even then you can be turned down if it's oversubscribed and they have to go to a second choice school), you can't just send them anywhere. If I went to a meeting to find out about a school and was told the policy was to inspect school uniform at the gate and send home straight away, I would be stunned! I would in touch with my MP to find out if this was on official advice from the education department. Because I'm all for discipline and teaching children standards and if their uniform is wrong they should receive a punishment - but sending CHILDREN back onto the streets when the parents think their in school is just amazingly irresponsible. Sending parents a text is a massive cop-out too - it's called a phone for a reason- you can actually SPEAK to people on it too - in my job, I'm frequently in bad signal areas and a lot of people do jobs where their phone is in a locker for hours. This way of dealing with wrong uniform is not the answer - a child could have ended up killed or abducted as a result of this schools actions, there's plenty of weirdos out there.[/p][/quote]And these 'children' are fine walking and hanging around the streets outside of school hours and and at weeks though? This exactly what's wrong with this country these days - nobody can take responsibility - it's far easier to blame the someone else / the authorities.[/p][/quote]I'm not sure I or the other lady have stated it is fine for children to walk streets after school or otherwise! In fact you have taken it completely out of context once again! Personally it is never 'alright' for my children to be out on the streets! I find it disgusting that children play on the streets as children should have a decent home and garden to have friends round to play and vice versa. Also any child that 'hangs around' anywhere clearly don't have the parental support they need or desire. Children should not be alone to walk streets any time of day! Also I might add myself and my family did indeed move specifically to gain access to a good school and yes you have to be in catchment and yes the school has to have places but when you care enough for your children you go out of your way to gain them a good education and we did, have and do just that! What astounds me about several of these comments is the clear lack of care that parents have over their kids nowadays! Children are allowed to play in the streets, to hang around corners, to be out without their parents knowing where they are and yet not one of these parents sees this as wrong! It's utterly astounding! From the moment my children were born to the moment they are 18 I shall know where they are and who they are with and no I'm sure they won't be Angels but I will to the best of my ability keep them safe as any good parent should do and yet so many parents don't do nowadays![/p][/quote]I hope you do know where you are. When I was teaching (not in Dorset) we were on a rota with the local police force, going into the local nightclubs to identify under 18s before young people's ID cards were in use. (Note we therefore didn't stop working when school did) They thought we would be able to assess the age of teenagers better than them because we dealt with them on a daily basis and could spot the tell-tale signs of someone not being an adult. It only amazed me for the first couple of times we took 15 year-olds home when their parents thought they were safely in their bedrooms - there are other ways to get out of a house than through the front or back door. Carolyn43
  • Score: 4

7:20am Mon 30 Jun 14

cherries189 says...

one of the girls seems to be holding a rather large shoe, maybe it can be used as a canoe in an emergency
one of the girls seems to be holding a rather large shoe, maybe it can be used as a canoe in an emergency cherries189
  • Score: 2

8:39am Mon 30 Jun 14

echor23 says...

Oh dear this has actually all become rather amusing, amusing that my comments have so many dislikes for stating that it's wrong to let children out alone from school and children shouldn't walk streets alone and wrong that parents don't care where their children are anymore, but then it shows just what's so very wrong with parents today!
Ah well good luck to you parents and enjoy your non committal parenthood years, I will continue to enjoy my beautiful relationships with my children and will go out of my way to love, cherish and try my hardest to always keep them safe, which I thought was a maternal instinct but clearly not.
Personally no child of mine will be walking and playing in the streets they have far more fun things to do.
Take care all:)
Oh dear this has actually all become rather amusing, amusing that my comments have so many dislikes for stating that it's wrong to let children out alone from school and children shouldn't walk streets alone and wrong that parents don't care where their children are anymore, but then it shows just what's so very wrong with parents today! Ah well good luck to you parents and enjoy your non committal parenthood years, I will continue to enjoy my beautiful relationships with my children and will go out of my way to love, cherish and try my hardest to always keep them safe, which I thought was a maternal instinct but clearly not. Personally no child of mine will be walking and playing in the streets they have far more fun things to do. Take care all:) echor23
  • Score: 0

7:54pm Mon 30 Jun 14

Pringle1967 says...

Can understand the school's strict policy on correct uniform but they have NO right sending children home espcially the younger ones!! Surely the parents of these kids send them to school & leave them in what's meant to be a safe environment-not sending them out into an unsafe enviroment where anything could happen to them!!
Can understand the school's strict policy on correct uniform but they have NO right sending children home espcially the younger ones!! Surely the parents of these kids send them to school & leave them in what's meant to be a safe environment-not sending them out into an unsafe enviroment where anything could happen to them!! Pringle1967
  • Score: -3

9:21am Tue 1 Jul 14

folkprotector says...

contric wrote:
couldnt someone have told the kids that the shoes were unacceptable now go inside the school and tomorrow come to school in the right footwear or is that solution to easy
I think that's the course of action the headmaster should have taken. Then, announce to the school and the parents that there'll be another inspection "soon". Leave it for a few days then have another inspection.
[quote][p][bold]contric[/bold] wrote: couldnt someone have told the kids that the shoes were unacceptable now go inside the school and tomorrow come to school in the right footwear or is that solution to easy[/p][/quote]I think that's the course of action the headmaster should have taken. Then, announce to the school and the parents that there'll be another inspection "soon". Leave it for a few days then have another inspection. folkprotector
  • Score: 1

9:23am Tue 1 Jul 14

folkprotector says...

BournemouthDan wrote:
contric wrote:
couldnt someone have told the kids that the shoes were unacceptable now go inside the school and tomorrow come to school in the right footwear or is that solution to easy
How many times do you allow them to flout the school uniform rules?
Once only
[quote][p][bold]BournemouthDan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]contric[/bold] wrote: couldnt someone have told the kids that the shoes were unacceptable now go inside the school and tomorrow come to school in the right footwear or is that solution to easy[/p][/quote]How many times do you allow them to flout the school uniform rules?[/p][/quote]Once only folkprotector
  • Score: 1

10:03am Tue 1 Jul 14

folkprotector says...

It's all about teaching accountability. Catch 'em young, monitor them while letting them develop with the agreed rules, and show them why they there are rules in place. The pupils that did as they told then returned to school correctly attired should be praised for acknowledging their being accountable for their actions.
It's all about teaching accountability. Catch 'em young, monitor them while letting them develop with the agreed rules, and show them why they there are rules in place. The pupils that did as they told then returned to school correctly attired should be praised for acknowledging their being accountable for their actions. folkprotector
  • Score: 3

5:41pm Tue 1 Jul 14

Molecatcher says...

This is just a publicity stunt by the head teacher... Pupils go into that school wearing non standard uniform every day.
This is just a publicity stunt by the head teacher... Pupils go into that school wearing non standard uniform every day. Molecatcher
  • Score: -3

8:31pm Tue 1 Jul 14

Kieran S says...

Molecatcher wrote:
This is just a publicity stunt by the head teacher... Pupils go into that school wearing non standard uniform every day.
actually the school have teachers on the doors every morning checking, and its not a publicity stunt by the head teacher, it was the people that reported it to the echo, and the echo itself that have publicised it.
[quote][p][bold]Molecatcher[/bold] wrote: This is just a publicity stunt by the head teacher... Pupils go into that school wearing non standard uniform every day.[/p][/quote]actually the school have teachers on the doors every morning checking, and its not a publicity stunt by the head teacher, it was the people that reported it to the echo, and the echo itself that have publicised it. Kieran S
  • Score: 4

5:41pm Wed 2 Jul 14

holdinkæft says...

Marty Caine UKIP wrote:
crystal-coast wrote:
It's ridiculous! It's a pair of shoes and by the picture they are similar to what's lot of people wear in the work world. Ok I understand if they come in with trainers etc but the head teacher shouldn't of just sent them home. They should of waited to hear back from the parents. If I heard my child had been sent home and I received a text I would be fuming. They have a duty of care to these children.
Wow -16 for making a true point, schools do have a duty of care and if you actually read the article fully, it clearly states that they were turning children away at the gate and one parent did not receive any message until 12:40. That would be some 4 hours after they were sent home. I wonder if the headmaster would like to explain that one. When a parent sends their child to school they expect that school to put their safety first and foremost, this certainly wasn't the case here and that headmaster should be ashamed of himself. If you cannot speak directly to the parents then they remain your responsibility until school finishes, so if they have broken any rules you simply put them in exclusion before putting them out on the streets.
for gods sake they were over 14, bet they wander around town on their own at weekends. we got six of the best if we didnt wear our uniform.
[quote][p][bold]Marty Caine UKIP[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]crystal-coast[/bold] wrote: It's ridiculous! It's a pair of shoes and by the picture they are similar to what's lot of people wear in the work world. Ok I understand if they come in with trainers etc but the head teacher shouldn't of just sent them home. They should of waited to hear back from the parents. If I heard my child had been sent home and I received a text I would be fuming. They have a duty of care to these children.[/p][/quote]Wow -16 for making a true point, schools do have a duty of care and if you actually read the article fully, it clearly states that they were turning children away at the gate and one parent did not receive any message until 12:40. That would be some 4 hours after they were sent home. I wonder if the headmaster would like to explain that one. When a parent sends their child to school they expect that school to put their safety first and foremost, this certainly wasn't the case here and that headmaster should be ashamed of himself. If you cannot speak directly to the parents then they remain your responsibility until school finishes, so if they have broken any rules you simply put them in exclusion before putting them out on the streets.[/p][/quote]for gods sake they were over 14, bet they wander around town on their own at weekends. we got six of the best if we didnt wear our uniform. holdinkæft
  • Score: 1

12:20pm Tue 8 Jul 14

boscombewizard says...

What uniform do the staff wear?
What uniform do the staff wear? boscombewizard
  • Score: 0

9:34am Tue 15 Jul 14

chucky251 says...

well what a load of stuck up stupid people on this thread there children. why send them home. give them a detention or a hour every time they would soon change.

People need to think if this was there children and there was a serious incident that happened involving there children then you would go mental.and if you wouldn't your not a fit parent or guardian in the first place.

have a good day
well what a load of stuck up stupid people on this thread there children. why send them home. give them a detention or a hour every time they would soon change. People need to think if this was there children and there was a serious incident that happened involving there children then you would go mental.and if you wouldn't your not a fit parent or guardian in the first place. have a good day chucky251
  • Score: 0

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