Elderly residents fighting plans to convert communal lounge into flat

Bournemouth Echo: LOUNGE: Joan Bourne, front centre, with other residents of  Harcourt Grange in Southbourne LOUNGE: Joan Bourne, front centre, with other residents of Harcourt Grange in Southbourne

SHELTERED housing residents are preparing to fight plans to convert their communal lounge into a flat.

Elderly people living at Bournemouth Housing Society for the Elderly (BHSE) accommodation in Southbourne have started a petition to keep the residents’ lounge.

The communal lounge is currently available to residents of three BHSE accommodation blocks in Belle Vue Crescent.

Chief executive Steve Hayes said it was under-used and the idea of closing it was suggested by a resident.

But Betty Attwood, 85, said: “I think in a place like this where we have got quite a high percentage of people who are not able to get out and about as they used to, there needs to be somewhere to go.

“Sometimes you need a change from your own four walls.”

Joan Bourne, 67, said: “They say we don’t use it enough, I say we use it as and when we want to and we want to be able to keep doing that.”

And David Coomer, 69, said he was worried about the noise and disruption of any building work. “It will be like living in a building site,” he said. “This is supposed to be a retirement place where you can relax.”

Mr Hayes said the plans could be shelved if residents made more regular use of the lounge.

He said just 21 of their 202 residents responded to their consultation and only seven people wanted to keep the lounge.

“No decision has yet been made to convert the lounge,” he said. “We may apply for planning permission to do so, which if approved will preserve our ability to review the matter and convert the lounge sometime in the next few years.

“However, if in the meantime residents wish to start to make regular use of the lounge, which is what we would hope to be the case, it is highly unlikely that the lounge will be converted.”

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10:28am Sat 21 Jun 14

Sir Beachy Head says...

Basically, use it or lose it. Get a dart board on the wall, a pool table, a few sets of dominoes, chess and monopoly and a few bottles of gin and party till you drop. No point moaning when its gone.
Basically, use it or lose it. Get a dart board on the wall, a pool table, a few sets of dominoes, chess and monopoly and a few bottles of gin and party till you drop. No point moaning when its gone. Sir Beachy Head
  • Score: 17

11:24am Sat 21 Jun 14

paddywack says...

Another bunch of old people with nothing better to do than moan about something that only a small percentage of them are interested in, bullied into doing the 'echo face' for the camera by a rebel rousing minority who don't appreciate when they've got it good.
Another bunch of old people with nothing better to do than moan about something that only a small percentage of them are interested in, bullied into doing the 'echo face' for the camera by a rebel rousing minority who don't appreciate when they've got it good. paddywack
  • Score: -16

4:04pm Sat 21 Jun 14

Lord Spring says...

paddywack wrote:
Another bunch of old people with nothing better to do than moan about something that only a small percentage of them are interested in, bullied into doing the 'echo face' for the camera by a rebel rousing minority who don't appreciate when they've got it good.
One day my acker you will get there if you are lucky it will come quicker than you think
[quote][p][bold]paddywack[/bold] wrote: Another bunch of old people with nothing better to do than moan about something that only a small percentage of them are interested in, bullied into doing the 'echo face' for the camera by a rebel rousing minority who don't appreciate when they've got it good.[/p][/quote]One day my acker you will get there if you are lucky it will come quicker than you think Lord Spring
  • Score: 4

5:22pm Sat 21 Jun 14

Alantrom says...

What brilliant timing by the home. Only just reading elsewhere that the UK is one of the loniest places and it is even worse for the elderly. In my view even if only a small percentage of the residents use it, that is a few people who will not feel quite so much in isolation. Also it is reported that loniness can have side effects on the person's health. I say to the home, forget trying to squeeze a couple more pounds from the residents and think of the benefits that this could be having on the residents who do it.
What do you want?
A few people who probably get some benefit from being able to mix freeely with fellow residents, or a few more residents who switch off and waste away in their rooms.
I hope if ever I need to go into a home, and let face it more and more of use do, that I shall not have to sit in my own room all day on my own but be able to go an socialise with others in the home.
What brilliant timing by the home. Only just reading elsewhere that the UK is one of the loniest places and it is even worse for the elderly. In my view even if only a small percentage of the residents use it, that is a few people who will not feel quite so much in isolation. Also it is reported that loniness can have side effects on the person's health. I say to the home, forget trying to squeeze a couple more pounds from the residents and think of the benefits that this could be having on the residents who do it. What do you want? A few people who probably get some benefit from being able to mix freeely with fellow residents, or a few more residents who switch off and waste away in their rooms. I hope if ever I need to go into a home, and let face it more and more of use do, that I shall not have to sit in my own room all day on my own but be able to go an socialise with others in the home. Alantrom
  • Score: 4

8:50pm Sat 21 Jun 14

pete woodley says...

paddywack wrote:
Another bunch of old people with nothing better to do than moan about something that only a small percentage of them are interested in, bullied into doing the 'echo face' for the camera by a rebel rousing minority who don't appreciate when they've got it good.
You have got to have some sort of illness.
[quote][p][bold]paddywack[/bold] wrote: Another bunch of old people with nothing better to do than moan about something that only a small percentage of them are interested in, bullied into doing the 'echo face' for the camera by a rebel rousing minority who don't appreciate when they've got it good.[/p][/quote]You have got to have some sort of illness. pete woodley
  • Score: 2

12:30pm Sun 22 Jun 14

ShuttleX says...

He said just 21 of their 202 residents responded to their consultation and only seven people wanted to keep the lounge........

I'm surprised to hear that there are 202 residents in those three blocks. Just how much effort did you put into getting residents views?

The Council have had lots of complaints regarding the way Mr Hayes runs BHSE. He never listens to the residents on any matter, thinking he knows best. Would it surprise you to know that the Council have quite a file regarding you Mr Hayes? Having had a quick look, you might want to rethink the way you charge residents for services you no longer provide. I think that is getting very close to the illegal line, and going by the comments in your file, I'm not the only one who thinks that.
He said just 21 of their 202 residents responded to their consultation and only seven people wanted to keep the lounge........ I'm surprised to hear that there are 202 residents in those three blocks. Just how much effort did you put into getting residents views? The Council have had lots of complaints regarding the way Mr Hayes runs BHSE. He never listens to the residents on any matter, thinking he knows best. Would it surprise you to know that the Council have quite a file regarding you Mr Hayes? Having had a quick look, you might want to rethink the way you charge residents for services you no longer provide. I think that is getting very close to the illegal line, and going by the comments in your file, I'm not the only one who thinks that. ShuttleX
  • Score: -5

6:58pm Sun 22 Jun 14

seniorgal says...

paddywack wrote:
Another bunch of old people with nothing better to do than moan about something that only a small percentage of them are interested in, bullied into doing the 'echo face' for the camera by a rebel rousing minority who don't appreciate when they've got it good.
when you know the facts then you have a right to comment,speaking of echo faces,your echo mouth didnt need bullying,seems to work all by itself!!!
[quote][p][bold]paddywack[/bold] wrote: Another bunch of old people with nothing better to do than moan about something that only a small percentage of them are interested in, bullied into doing the 'echo face' for the camera by a rebel rousing minority who don't appreciate when they've got it good.[/p][/quote]when you know the facts then you have a right to comment,speaking of echo faces,your echo mouth didnt need bullying,seems to work all by itself!!! seniorgal
  • Score: 1

10:59pm Sun 22 Jun 14

seniorgal says...

Hey people of the belle vue site for the elderly.You are described as old people(true) some with walking frames,sticks to help you get by.Others aching bones with age,all sorts of age related problems.
But hey we have been noticed (a rebel rousing minority)How cool is that.I for one take my hat off to those who stand up for their rights even in your 60s,70s, and 80s,cheers
Hey people of the belle vue site for the elderly.You are described as old people(true) some with walking frames,sticks to help you get by.Others aching bones with age,all sorts of age related problems. But hey we have been noticed (a rebel rousing minority)How cool is that.I for one take my hat off to those who stand up for their rights even in your 60s,70s, and 80s,cheers seniorgal
  • Score: 1

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