Wave of protest over scheme to demolish original Bournemouth villa and replace it with flats

Bournemouth Echo: DEMOLISH: Derelict Radcliffe Court, Manor Road, Bournemouth DEMOLISH: Derelict Radcliffe Court, Manor Road, Bournemouth

PROPOSALS to demolish one of Bournemouth’s original seaside villas and replace it with a block of 14 flats have sparked a wave of protest.

English Heritage, the Bournemouth Civic Society and the Victorian Society are among those expressing concerns about the potential loss of Radcliffe Court in Manor Road, East Cliff.

The derelict building is in a poor state and the developers argue it would not be viable to refurbish it.

The application has sparked 44 letters of objection but planning officers are recommending it for approval. Councillors on Bournemouth’s planning board will make a decision at their meeting today.

Francis Kelly, English Heritage’s inspector of historic buildings and areas, said: “We accept that Radcliffe Court is perhaps not the best of Bournemouth’s Victorian seaside villas – and that it has clearly fallen on hard times.

“However, the need for taking the exceptional step of demolition does not appear to have been demonstrated.

“We have no reason to believe that, treated sympathetically, it could not once more aspire to graciousness and dignity and, what’s more, inspire others to better value the Victorian heritage of Bournemouth.”

Ken Mantock, of Bournemouth Civic Society, said: “The Civic Society believes Radcliffe Court, shamefully neglected for years, should be restored and converted to high quality apartments. It is an important part of the East Cliff’s Victorian heritage.”

But Ken Parke, who is the planning agent for developer Lynwood Park Ltd, said: “The proposals replace a derelict building and we have demonstrated that it is simply not viable to seek to retain and refurbish the existing building. The application is accompanied by significant amounts of evidence which by way of objective analysis demonstrate that the proposed replacement building is appropriate to character and does not result in unacceptable harm to the neighbouring properties.

“The council have subjected the proposals to detailed scrutiny are content that the proposals do not result in harm, hence the recommendation to grant.”

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6:47am Mon 16 Jun 14

retry69 says...

Such an attractive looking proposition wouldn't you just want it ?
Such an attractive looking proposition wouldn't you just want it ? retry69
  • Score: -7

7:07am Mon 16 Jun 14

billy bumble says...

So why didn't these campaigners do something about saving it much earlier?

Oh right - yes it would have cost a lot of money for zero reward
So why didn't these campaigners do something about saving it much earlier? Oh right - yes it would have cost a lot of money for zero reward billy bumble
  • Score: 2

7:33am Mon 16 Jun 14

High Treason says...

If the building was refurbished to a high standard the flats appartments/flats would sell for a high price. Many do not want to live in a clone of a concrete office block but would willingly pay more for a residence of character.
If the building was refurbished to a high standard the flats appartments/flats would sell for a high price. Many do not want to live in a clone of a concrete office block but would willingly pay more for a residence of character. High Treason
  • Score: 22

7:40am Mon 16 Jun 14

we-shall-see says...

It is high time owners of older properties were made to bring them up to scratch by some serious maintenance. Far too many older properties of character are being deliberately neglected in order to get the go-ahead to knock them down. It needs to STOP!

Poole have lost most of their historical properties in this way and Bournemouth seems to be following suit. No more concrete monstrosities in the area please - we need to retain some individuality and historical character or every town will look the same, as every High Street already does!
It is high time owners of older properties were made to bring them up to scratch by some serious maintenance. Far too many older properties of character are being deliberately neglected in order to get the go-ahead to knock them down. It needs to STOP! Poole have lost most of their historical properties in this way and Bournemouth seems to be following suit. No more concrete monstrosities in the area please - we need to retain some individuality and historical character or every town will look the same, as every High Street already does! we-shall-see
  • Score: 27

8:22am Mon 16 Jun 14

Townee says...

If it's not lived in and not repaired, knock it down and build something people want to live in.
If it's not lived in and not repaired, knock it down and build something people want to live in. Townee
  • Score: -15

8:59am Mon 16 Jun 14

Glashen says...

The building is not listed as of architectural interest, so is it sensible to stop development just because it is old?
The building is not listed as of architectural interest, so is it sensible to stop development just because it is old? Glashen
  • Score: -2

9:21am Mon 16 Jun 14

BarrHumbug says...

I suspect the developer doesn't want to restore it because the design of the building won't maximise their return per square foot. High ceilings and grand entrances and stairways are all very nice but you could get another dozen flats in a modern building with the same footprint?
They're probably over dramatising the work and cost needed to restore the building and may even have opened it up to the elements to speed up its decay? A bit like ring-barking protected trees?
I suspect the developer doesn't want to restore it because the design of the building won't maximise their return per square foot. High ceilings and grand entrances and stairways are all very nice but you could get another dozen flats in a modern building with the same footprint? They're probably over dramatising the work and cost needed to restore the building and may even have opened it up to the elements to speed up its decay? A bit like ring-barking protected trees? BarrHumbug
  • Score: 15

9:54am Mon 16 Jun 14

retry69 says...

Not much of a wave of protest (44 letters) ?
Not much of a wave of protest (44 letters) ? retry69
  • Score: 3

10:13am Mon 16 Jun 14

madras says...

Time to move forward on this one I think - perhaps make sure the plans for development are not of the usual look-a-like type and go for something that will itself be of interest?
Time to move forward on this one I think - perhaps make sure the plans for development are not of the usual look-a-like type and go for something that will itself be of interest? madras
  • Score: -1

11:37am Mon 16 Jun 14

wadjit says...

Such a shame. Will be a low quality, ugly building put in its place as usual and Bournemouth loses a little more character.
Such a shame. Will be a low quality, ugly building put in its place as usual and Bournemouth loses a little more character. wadjit
  • Score: 6

12:10pm Mon 16 Jun 14

ashleycross says...

I have recently started driving through Bournemouth about once a week and my route includes this road. Believe me, Bournemouth council and its slum landlords are going to have to pull their socks up and start fulfilling their legal obligations to stop running buildings down and allowing them to be run down whilst waiting for a regeneration handout. Watch this space for all the law at their disposal to force people to stop buying buildings and letting them go to rack and ruin. Starting with s215 notices. And don't say the council won't do anything, get on and email, phone and write to them when you see somewhere that's a right state being milked for all the housing benefit the owner can get from the tenants. No different from any other benefit fraud but they get away with it because they are property owners. Put your foot down Bournemouth and direct your moaning energies usefully.
I have recently started driving through Bournemouth about once a week and my route includes this road. Believe me, Bournemouth council and its slum landlords are going to have to pull their socks up and start fulfilling their legal obligations to stop running buildings down and allowing them to be run down whilst waiting for a regeneration handout. Watch this space for all the law at their disposal to force people to stop buying buildings and letting them go to rack and ruin. Starting with s215 notices. And don't say the council won't do anything, get on and email, phone and write to them when you see somewhere that's a right state being milked for all the housing benefit the owner can get from the tenants. No different from any other benefit fraud but they get away with it because they are property owners. Put your foot down Bournemouth and direct your moaning energies usefully. ashleycross
  • Score: 7

9:10pm Mon 16 Jun 14

ashleycross says...

we-shall-see wrote:
It is high time owners of older properties were made to bring them up to scratch by some serious maintenance. Far too many older properties of character are being deliberately neglected in order to get the go-ahead to knock them down. It needs to STOP!

Poole have lost most of their historical properties in this way and Bournemouth seems to be following suit. No more concrete monstrosities in the area please - we need to retain some individuality and historical character or every town will look the same, as every High Street already does!
s215 notice , google it
[quote][p][bold]we-shall-see[/bold] wrote: It is high time owners of older properties were made to bring them up to scratch by some serious maintenance. Far too many older properties of character are being deliberately neglected in order to get the go-ahead to knock them down. It needs to STOP! Poole have lost most of their historical properties in this way and Bournemouth seems to be following suit. No more concrete monstrosities in the area please - we need to retain some individuality and historical character or every town will look the same, as every High Street already does![/p][/quote]s215 notice , google it ashleycross
  • Score: 1

9:10pm Mon 16 Jun 14

ashleycross says...

we-shall-see wrote:
It is high time owners of older properties were made to bring them up to scratch by some serious maintenance. Far too many older properties of character are being deliberately neglected in order to get the go-ahead to knock them down. It needs to STOP!

Poole have lost most of their historical properties in this way and Bournemouth seems to be following suit. No more concrete monstrosities in the area please - we need to retain some individuality and historical character or every town will look the same, as every High Street already does!
s215 notice , google it
[quote][p][bold]we-shall-see[/bold] wrote: It is high time owners of older properties were made to bring them up to scratch by some serious maintenance. Far too many older properties of character are being deliberately neglected in order to get the go-ahead to knock them down. It needs to STOP! Poole have lost most of their historical properties in this way and Bournemouth seems to be following suit. No more concrete monstrosities in the area please - we need to retain some individuality and historical character or every town will look the same, as every High Street already does![/p][/quote]s215 notice , google it ashleycross
  • Score: 0

10:11pm Mon 16 Jun 14

kinsonjim says...

wadjit says. FRIEND, Our Bournemouth lost it's character many years ago. Sadly to remember those days when we could paddle in the stream, fish and swim down Throop and walk home at night without any worries are now long gone. Memories of those days are only held by the 'Oldies'.
wadjit says. FRIEND, Our Bournemouth lost it's character many years ago. Sadly to remember those days when we could paddle in the stream, fish and swim down Throop and walk home at night without any worries are now long gone. Memories of those days are only held by the 'Oldies'. kinsonjim
  • Score: 1

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