Bournemouth MP writes to Charity Commission over 'highly political' Oxfam advert

Bournemouth Echo: Bournemouth MP writes to Charity Commission over 'highly political' Oxfam advert Bournemouth MP writes to Charity Commission over 'highly political' Oxfam advert

BOURNEMOUTH MP Conor Burns has written to the chairman of the Charity Commission over advertising used by Oxfam.

Mr Burns, who represents Bournemouth West, said the campaign, which attacks the Government’s austerity measures, was “highly political”.

The controversy centres on a film poster-style picture issued on Twitter by the charity, which shows a raging sea under the slogan: “The perfect storm... starring zero hours contracts, high prices, benefits cuts, unemployment, childcare costs.”

Mr Burns said: “Many people who support Oxfam will be shocked and saddened by this highly political campaigning in domestic British politics.

“Most of us operated under the illusion that Oxfam’s focus was on the relief of poverty and famine overseas. I cannot see how using funds donated to charity to campaign politically can be in accord with Oxfam’s charitable status.

“For that reason I have asked the Chairman of the Charity Commission to investigate Oxfam as a matter of urgency.”

Ben Phillips, Oxfam Campaigns and Policy Director, said: “Oxfam is a resolutely non-party political organisation - we have a duty to draw attention to the hardship suffered by poor people we work with in the UK.

“Fighting poverty should not be a party political issue - successive governments have presided over a tide of rising inequality and created a situation where food banks and other providers provided 20 million meals last year to people who could not afford to feed themselves.

“This is an unacceptable situation in one of the world’s largest economies and politicians of all stripes have a responsibility to tackle it.”

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10:12am Wed 11 Jun 14

speedy231278 says...

He's probably upset because they've hit the nail on the head.
He's probably upset because they've hit the nail on the head. speedy231278
  • Score: 60

10:29am Wed 11 Jun 14

KermitTFrog says...

I have checked the charity commission website and Oxfam's objectives do not appear to exclude helping those in poverty in the UK. They also state that campaigning is one of the methods they use to achieve their objectives. I notice that the MP didn't try to refute the message behind the campaign. I guess the truth hurts hence the complaint.
I have checked the charity commission website and Oxfam's objectives do not appear to exclude helping those in poverty in the UK. They also state that campaigning is one of the methods they use to achieve their objectives. I notice that the MP didn't try to refute the message behind the campaign. I guess the truth hurts hence the complaint. KermitTFrog
  • Score: 51

10:45am Wed 11 Jun 14

whataboutthat says...

Poverty didn't start with a tory government neither will it end with one...
Poverty didn't start with a tory government neither will it end with one... whataboutthat
  • Score: 7

10:57am Wed 11 Jun 14

BmthNewshound says...

It all depends how you define political. In many ways a lot of Oxfams campaigns could be interpreted as political as they campaign to highlight poverty in countries where the governments are corrupt and divert international aid to fund the lavish lifestyles of their leaders.
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It seems to me that Oxfam have obviously hit a raw nerve. At the very least Burns is being naive if he thinks that poverty isn't a problem in the UK. Perhaps if Burns didn't spend his whole time on personal interests and pandering to the blue rinse brigade to secure votes he'd realise that zero hours contracts, high prices, benefits cuts, unemployment, childcare costs are issues that affect many living in his constituency.
It all depends how you define political. In many ways a lot of Oxfams campaigns could be interpreted as political as they campaign to highlight poverty in countries where the governments are corrupt and divert international aid to fund the lavish lifestyles of their leaders. . It seems to me that Oxfam have obviously hit a raw nerve. At the very least Burns is being naive if he thinks that poverty isn't a problem in the UK. Perhaps if Burns didn't spend his whole time on personal interests and pandering to the blue rinse brigade to secure votes he'd realise that zero hours contracts, high prices, benefits cuts, unemployment, childcare costs are issues that affect many living in his constituency. BmthNewshound
  • Score: 46

11:08am Wed 11 Jun 14

Dadof2 says...

If only Burns would fight poverty with the same gusto that he fights a charity.
If only Burns would fight poverty with the same gusto that he fights a charity. Dadof2
  • Score: 49

11:08am Wed 11 Jun 14

politicaltrainspotter says...

Conor Burn the career politician with his sights set on becoming PM.If it wasn't for the general election he'd wouldn't be bothered.The fact is Oxfam are entitled to give their side of the story.
Conor Burn the career politician with his sights set on becoming PM.If it wasn't for the general election he'd wouldn't be bothered.The fact is Oxfam are entitled to give their side of the story. politicaltrainspotter
  • Score: 39

11:10am Wed 11 Jun 14

woby_tide says...

I bet he won't be writing to complain how Eton is a Charity yet appears to get away with populating our cabinets for perpetuity. I'd say that's a bigger "Political" travesty
I bet he won't be writing to complain how Eton is a Charity yet appears to get away with populating our cabinets for perpetuity. I'd say that's a bigger "Political" travesty woby_tide
  • Score: 53

11:17am Wed 11 Jun 14

twynham says...

Can't remember who said it but oh so true in this case.
If I give to the poor I am a saint.
If I ask why they are poor I am a communist!
Can't remember who said it but oh so true in this case. If I give to the poor I am a saint. If I ask why they are poor I am a communist! twynham
  • Score: 25

11:17am Wed 11 Jun 14

MrPitiful says...

Conor Burns is one of the most ineffective, out - of - touch and pompous MP's I have ever had the misfortune to be a constituent of. And believe me, I have come across some pretty awful ones from all 3 parties so that is saying something.

Not wishing to get too personal but look at him - he doesn't even look right!

While he floats about the UK as part of his "Culture" committee or whatever we pay him to do, he obviously fails to realise there are hundreds, if not thousands of people in his very own constituency who genuinely have to rely on food banks to feed their children.

Oxfam are right on the button with this campaign and I am sure even those who don't regularly support charities due to the "charity begins at home" train of thought will identify with this.

It is very easy for him to snipe at Oxfam on the basis of what he sees as "political" campaigning. Mr Burns - why don't you do some political campaigning of your own and help those local who need housing, decent living standards and a better income. Your time in governemnt would be far better appreciated by the electorate if you did.

The reason the Tories use people like Conor Burns for safe seats like Bournemouth West is purely down to the fact that they know it is a very safe seat and no matter who they put there, the local Tory stalwarts will never vote him out.

Such a shame when there are so many local issues that could be sorted if we had a decent MP.

As I said earlier, ineffective and out of touch.
Conor Burns is one of the most ineffective, out - of - touch and pompous MP's I have ever had the misfortune to be a constituent of. And believe me, I have come across some pretty awful ones from all 3 parties so that is saying something. Not wishing to get too personal but look at him - he doesn't even look right! While he floats about the UK as part of his "Culture" committee or whatever we pay him to do, he obviously fails to realise there are hundreds, if not thousands of people in his very own constituency who genuinely have to rely on food banks to feed their children. Oxfam are right on the button with this campaign and I am sure even those who don't regularly support charities due to the "charity begins at home" train of thought will identify with this. It is very easy for him to snipe at Oxfam on the basis of what he sees as "political" campaigning. Mr Burns - why don't you do some political campaigning of your own and help those local who need housing, decent living standards and a better income. Your time in governemnt would be far better appreciated by the electorate if you did. The reason the Tories use people like Conor Burns for safe seats like Bournemouth West is purely down to the fact that they know it is a very safe seat and no matter who they put there, the local Tory stalwarts will never vote him out. Such a shame when there are so many local issues that could be sorted if we had a decent MP. As I said earlier, ineffective and out of touch. MrPitiful
  • Score: 58

11:24am Wed 11 Jun 14

pauls55 says...

The Tories threatening Oxfam is effectively an admission. "Yes, we did all this stuff and we'd prefer to keep it quiet thanks" There's something disturbing too about a government, of whatever political colour, trying to gag criticism of its' policies by charities.
The Tories threatening Oxfam is effectively an admission. "Yes, we did all this stuff and we'd prefer to keep it quiet thanks" There's something disturbing too about a government, of whatever political colour, trying to gag criticism of its' policies by charities. pauls55
  • Score: 31

11:37am Wed 11 Jun 14

MattGillett says...

Frankly, I am appalled and disapointed by Conor Burns. If he doesn't like the research put together by Oxfam GB, Church Action on Poverty and The Trussell Trust then he should give his reasons, quickly and publicly.
Rather than shooting the messenger, he should look to a member of his own party, Winston Churchill, who listened to the facts presented by original Oxford Committee and allowed them to act. Preventing 1 million from staving in Greece. If Mr Churchill had acted like Mr Burns then there are 10's of millions of people around the world whose lives would have been foreshortened and/or devalued by poverty, fear and oppression.
Frankly, I am appalled and disapointed by Conor Burns. If he doesn't like the research put together by Oxfam GB, Church Action on Poverty and The Trussell Trust then he should give his reasons, quickly and publicly. Rather than shooting the messenger, he should look to a member of his own party, Winston Churchill, who listened to the facts presented by original Oxford Committee and allowed them to act. Preventing 1 million from staving in Greece. If Mr Churchill had acted like Mr Burns then there are 10's of millions of people around the world whose lives would have been foreshortened and/or devalued by poverty, fear and oppression. MattGillett
  • Score: 25

11:39am Wed 11 Jun 14

muscliffman says...

Oxfam do have some good points, but if it is a politically based campaign let's hope they also fully understand which LibLabCon EU political policies have caused these problems.

Because if we continue to allow virtually unlimited EU immigration - especially much cheaper labour - into our already overcrowded UK most of the problems which they highlight will undoubtedly become far worse for most of us.
Oxfam do have some good points, but if it is a politically based campaign let's hope they also fully understand which LibLabCon EU political policies have caused these problems. Because if we continue to allow virtually unlimited EU immigration - especially much cheaper labour - into our already overcrowded UK most of the problems which they highlight will undoubtedly become far worse for most of us. muscliffman
  • Score: 8

11:57am Wed 11 Jun 14

Western Sunset says...

Well done Mr Burns!

Actually in a back-handed way, he (and the other politicians) have raised the awareness of the dire straits that many decent people in this country find themselves in, having to be supported by food banks and the like.

I bet Oxfam are very pleased with his intervention to raise their profile and make those more fortunate actually see what's really happening around them
Well done Mr Burns! Actually in a back-handed way, he (and the other politicians) have raised the awareness of the dire straits that many decent people in this country find themselves in, having to be supported by food banks and the like. I bet Oxfam are very pleased with his intervention to raise their profile and make those more fortunate actually see what's really happening around them Western Sunset
  • Score: -2

12:07pm Wed 11 Jun 14

MattGillett says...

Please note Connor Burn has not rejected Oxfam's findings he simply says that publicising them is political and therefore should threaten ther charitable status....

These are Oxfam's findings............
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Although the UK is the seventh richest country in the world, many people struggle to afford even the most essential of goods: food.

•In 2012-13, the Trussell Trust foodbank network, an Oxfam partner, provided over 350,000 people in the UK with food parcels - more than double the year before.
•Over 2 million people in the UK are estimated to be malnourished, and 3 million are at risk of becoming so.
•36% of the UK population are now just one large heating bill or a broken washing machine away from hardship.
•1 in 6 parents have gone without food themselves to afford to feed their families

"If people at the bottom don't have the minimum necessary for a healthy life, then their health suffers... In the most deprived part of Westminster, life expectancy for men is 17 years shorter than in the richest part of the borough… I think that people at the upper end of the income scale have no idea of what's going on down at the bottom of the scale. They don't realise how much people are really hurting."

Sir Michael Marmot, health inequality expert at University College London, and author of Fair Society, Healthy Lives.
Please note Connor Burn has not rejected Oxfam's findings he simply says that publicising them is political and therefore should threaten ther charitable status.... These are Oxfam's findings............ .... Although the UK is the seventh richest country in the world, many people struggle to afford even the most essential of goods: food. •In 2012-13, the Trussell Trust foodbank network, an Oxfam partner, provided over 350,000 people in the UK with food parcels - more than double the year before. •Over 2 million people in the UK are estimated to be malnourished, and 3 million are at risk of becoming so. •36% of the UK population are now just one large heating bill or a broken washing machine away from hardship. •1 in 6 parents have gone without food themselves to afford to feed their families "If people at the bottom don't have the minimum necessary for a healthy life, then their health suffers... In the most deprived part of Westminster, life expectancy for men is 17 years shorter than in the richest part of the borough… I think that people at the upper end of the income scale have no idea of what's going on down at the bottom of the scale. They don't realise how much people are really hurting." Sir Michael Marmot, health inequality expert at University College London, and author of Fair Society, Healthy Lives. MattGillett
  • Score: 18

12:50pm Wed 11 Jun 14

jinglebell says...

Did Mr. Burns see the Dispatches programme a few nights ago called, Bread Line Kids, which showed the terrible poverty children in the UK live with? If he didn't he should.
Mr. Burns might try living for a few months in the poverty that so many in our country have to live with.....then let's see what he has to say. He is upset because Oxfam have highlighted this governments part in increasing the poverty levels and the massive divide between the wealthy and the poor.
Britain's richest 1% have accumulated as much wealth as the poorest 55% of the population put together, according to the latest official analysis of who owns the nation's £9.5 TRILLION of property, pensions and financial assets. Meanwhile, the Tories et al have reduced the numbers of staff chasing Tax Avoiders.
Did Mr. Burns see the Dispatches programme a few nights ago called, Bread Line Kids, which showed the terrible poverty children in the UK live with? If he didn't he should. Mr. Burns might try living for a few months in the poverty that so many in our country have to live with.....then let's see what he has to say. He is upset because Oxfam have highlighted this governments part in increasing the poverty levels and the massive divide between the wealthy and the poor. Britain's richest 1% have accumulated as much wealth as the poorest 55% of the population put together, according to the latest official analysis of who owns the nation's £9.5 TRILLION of property, pensions and financial assets. Meanwhile, the Tories et al have reduced the numbers of staff chasing Tax Avoiders. jinglebell
  • Score: 43

12:51pm Wed 11 Jun 14

KitKatPuss says...

Connor Burns should focus his energy on combating homelessness and families relying on food banks in Dorset. That is an actual issue.
Connor Burns should focus his energy on combating homelessness and families relying on food banks in Dorset. That is an actual issue. KitKatPuss
  • Score: 30

1:04pm Wed 11 Jun 14

MrEdge says...

Regardless of political affiliation. Surly the money spent on this campaign would be better spent on feeding the starving etc?
Regardless of political affiliation. Surly the money spent on this campaign would be better spent on feeding the starving etc? MrEdge
  • Score: -9

1:17pm Wed 11 Jun 14

MattGillett says...

Western Sunset wrote:
Well done Mr Burns!

Actually in a back-handed way, he (and the other politicians) have raised the awareness of the dire straits that many decent people in this country find themselves in, having to be supported by food banks and the like.

I bet Oxfam are very pleased with his intervention to raise their profile and make those more fortunate actually see what's really happening around them
Possibly, but a Charities Commision deputation will cost £5,000. Or based on the average expenditure distibution of Oxfam the real cost is; the lives of several children in the developing world. Supporting a foodbank for 3 months and £300 on campainging in the UK. In less clear cut cases charities (generally private schools) £100k's can be spent.
[quote][p][bold]Western Sunset[/bold] wrote: Well done Mr Burns! Actually in a back-handed way, he (and the other politicians) have raised the awareness of the dire straits that many decent people in this country find themselves in, having to be supported by food banks and the like. I bet Oxfam are very pleased with his intervention to raise their profile and make those more fortunate actually see what's really happening around them[/p][/quote]Possibly, but a Charities Commision deputation will cost £5,000. Or based on the average expenditure distibution of Oxfam the real cost is; the lives of several children in the developing world. Supporting a foodbank for 3 months and £300 on campainging in the UK. In less clear cut cases charities (generally private schools) £100k's can be spent. MattGillett
  • Score: 7

1:35pm Wed 11 Jun 14

KermitTFrog says...

MrEdge wrote:
Regardless of political affiliation. Surly the money spent on this campaign would be better spent on feeding the starving etc?
Poverty is a symptom. If all you do is treat the symptom you get caught in a cycle of treating the symptom. If you deal with what is causing the symptom then it's job done.
[quote][p][bold]MrEdge[/bold] wrote: Regardless of political affiliation. Surly the money spent on this campaign would be better spent on feeding the starving etc?[/p][/quote]Poverty is a symptom. If all you do is treat the symptom you get caught in a cycle of treating the symptom. If you deal with what is causing the symptom then it's job done. KermitTFrog
  • Score: 13

2:07pm Wed 11 Jun 14

Sir Beachy Head says...

KermitTFrog wrote:
MrEdge wrote:
Regardless of political affiliation. Surly the money spent on this campaign would be better spent on feeding the starving etc?
Poverty is a symptom. If all you do is treat the symptom you get caught in a cycle of treating the symptom. If you deal with what is causing the symptom then it's job done.
Stop people breeding who can least afford to raise kids. We need to get the world population down from 7 billion to 4 billion. Instead its on target to hit 9 billion by 2060.
[quote][p][bold]KermitTFrog[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MrEdge[/bold] wrote: Regardless of political affiliation. Surly the money spent on this campaign would be better spent on feeding the starving etc?[/p][/quote]Poverty is a symptom. If all you do is treat the symptom you get caught in a cycle of treating the symptom. If you deal with what is causing the symptom then it's job done.[/p][/quote]Stop people breeding who can least afford to raise kids. We need to get the world population down from 7 billion to 4 billion. Instead its on target to hit 9 billion by 2060. Sir Beachy Head
  • Score: 14

3:21pm Wed 11 Jun 14

Roger of Bournemouth says...

The truth often hurts Mr Burns.
The truth often hurts Mr Burns. Roger of Bournemouth
  • Score: 16

3:28pm Wed 11 Jun 14

ben1982 says...

Conor Burns is a MP on the Gravy Train look at his twitter feed, the man would go to the opening of an envelope!" He does very little for this Town !!!
Conor Burns is a MP on the Gravy Train look at his twitter feed, the man would go to the opening of an envelope!" He does very little for this Town !!! ben1982
  • Score: 27

3:44pm Wed 11 Jun 14

richardcompton3 says...

politicaltrainspotte
r
wrote:
Conor Burn the career politician with his sights set on becoming PM.If it wasn't for the general election he'd wouldn't be bothered.The fact is Oxfam are entitled to give their side of the story.
Well said.
[quote][p][bold]politicaltrainspotte r[/bold] wrote: Conor Burn the career politician with his sights set on becoming PM.If it wasn't for the general election he'd wouldn't be bothered.The fact is Oxfam are entitled to give their side of the story.[/p][/quote]Well said. richardcompton3
  • Score: 15

4:11pm Wed 11 Jun 14

Bob49 says...

perhaps someone could explain to this b;oated toad that not everyone can claim paliamentary expenses - or spend a fair bit of their time abroad sucking up to middle east despots

it is a sad reflection of our electoral system that this creature is the best we can find to represent us
perhaps someone could explain to this b;oated toad that not everyone can claim paliamentary expenses - or spend a fair bit of their time abroad sucking up to middle east despots it is a sad reflection of our electoral system that this creature is the best we can find to represent us Bob49
  • Score: 13

4:49pm Wed 11 Jun 14

Tripod says...

Say's it all really, jumps to the defence of the conservative party whenever He can Brown-Nose, but conspicuously silent in the on-going fiasco of the A338; about time this joker was reminded who pays His wages and who He is supposed to be working for!
Say's it all really, jumps to the defence of the conservative party whenever He can Brown-Nose, but conspicuously silent in the on-going fiasco of the A338; about time this joker was reminded who pays His wages and who He is supposed to be working for! Tripod
  • Score: 7

5:29pm Wed 11 Jun 14

pete woodley says...

Bob49 wrote:
perhaps someone could explain to this b;oated toad that not everyone can claim paliamentary expenses - or spend a fair bit of their time abroad sucking up to middle east despots

it is a sad reflection of our electoral system that this creature is the best we can find to represent us
The worst mp Bournemouth has ever had.
[quote][p][bold]Bob49[/bold] wrote: perhaps someone could explain to this b;oated toad that not everyone can claim paliamentary expenses - or spend a fair bit of their time abroad sucking up to middle east despots it is a sad reflection of our electoral system that this creature is the best we can find to represent us[/p][/quote]The worst mp Bournemouth has ever had. pete woodley
  • Score: 6

5:46pm Wed 11 Jun 14

MrPitiful says...

Bob49 wrote:
perhaps someone could explain to this b;oated toad that not everyone can claim paliamentary expenses - or spend a fair bit of their time abroad sucking up to middle east despots

it is a sad reflection of our electoral system that this creature is the best we can find to represent us
Blimey Bob, the 1st time I've bothered to use the thumbs up thing and it was one of your posts.

Absolutely bang-on description of Conor Burns and his pointless appointments.

Unfoirtunately, I don't think it is just a fault of the electoral system which is responsible for him wallowing in his office. There is also the problem with those in his constituency who vote for him along with what he stands for. Plus those who sadly don't bother voting at all.
[quote][p][bold]Bob49[/bold] wrote: perhaps someone could explain to this b;oated toad that not everyone can claim paliamentary expenses - or spend a fair bit of their time abroad sucking up to middle east despots it is a sad reflection of our electoral system that this creature is the best we can find to represent us[/p][/quote]Blimey Bob, the 1st time I've bothered to use the thumbs up thing and it was one of your posts. Absolutely bang-on description of Conor Burns and his pointless appointments. Unfoirtunately, I don't think it is just a fault of the electoral system which is responsible for him wallowing in his office. There is also the problem with those in his constituency who vote for him along with what he stands for. Plus those who sadly don't bother voting at all. MrPitiful
  • Score: 3

6:04pm Wed 11 Jun 14

pete woodley says...

MrPitiful wrote:
Bob49 wrote:
perhaps someone could explain to this b;oated toad that not everyone can claim paliamentary expenses - or spend a fair bit of their time abroad sucking up to middle east despots

it is a sad reflection of our electoral system that this creature is the best we can find to represent us
Blimey Bob, the 1st time I've bothered to use the thumbs up thing and it was one of your posts.

Absolutely bang-on description of Conor Burns and his pointless appointments.

Unfoirtunately, I don't think it is just a fault of the electoral system which is responsible for him wallowing in his office. There is also the problem with those in his constituency who vote for him along with what he stands for. Plus those who sadly don't bother voting at all.
What about the selection committee who chose him.
[quote][p][bold]MrPitiful[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bob49[/bold] wrote: perhaps someone could explain to this b;oated toad that not everyone can claim paliamentary expenses - or spend a fair bit of their time abroad sucking up to middle east despots it is a sad reflection of our electoral system that this creature is the best we can find to represent us[/p][/quote]Blimey Bob, the 1st time I've bothered to use the thumbs up thing and it was one of your posts. Absolutely bang-on description of Conor Burns and his pointless appointments. Unfoirtunately, I don't think it is just a fault of the electoral system which is responsible for him wallowing in his office. There is also the problem with those in his constituency who vote for him along with what he stands for. Plus those who sadly don't bother voting at all.[/p][/quote]What about the selection committee who chose him. pete woodley
  • Score: 1

7:37pm Wed 11 Jun 14

bea says...

Congratulations, some of us might have missed the ad if you hadn;t publicised it so well
Congratulations, some of us might have missed the ad if you hadn;t publicised it so well bea
  • Score: 3

8:00pm Wed 11 Jun 14

s-pb2 says...

Its sad to think that Burns is so arrogant that he does not recognise that there is poverty in the UK and believes that it is an international phenomena.

But then again no one in his party seems to recognise that their are many many people struggling to survive in this country.

Well done Oxfam for this campaign, at least you caught the attention of one politician!
Its sad to think that Burns is so arrogant that he does not recognise that there is poverty in the UK and believes that it is an international phenomena. But then again no one in his party seems to recognise that their are many many people struggling to survive in this country. Well done Oxfam for this campaign, at least you caught the attention of one politician! s-pb2
  • Score: 5

8:18pm Wed 11 Jun 14

itsneverblackorwhite says...

Jump on a bandwagon! I don't believe this man has ever done anything positive for the area he represents as he is to busy brown nosing Mr Cameron he rarely turns up to events as promised and really is a waste of space!
Jump on a bandwagon! I don't believe this man has ever done anything positive for the area he represents as he is to busy brown nosing Mr Cameron he rarely turns up to events as promised and really is a waste of space! itsneverblackorwhite
  • Score: 7

8:21pm Wed 11 Jun 14

breamoreboy says...

MrEdge wrote:
Regardless of political affiliation. Surly the money spent on this campaign would be better spent on feeding the starving etc?
Surely attacking the cause is better than treating the symptoms.
[quote][p][bold]MrEdge[/bold] wrote: Regardless of political affiliation. Surly the money spent on this campaign would be better spent on feeding the starving etc?[/p][/quote]Surely attacking the cause is better than treating the symptoms. breamoreboy
  • Score: 4

8:27pm Wed 11 Jun 14

breamoreboy says...

I suspect that Mr Burns has been talking to his colleague Iain Duncan Smith and therefore is convinced that you can live on £53 per week, hence there's no problem so Oxfam must be wrong on all counts.
I suspect that Mr Burns has been talking to his colleague Iain Duncan Smith and therefore is convinced that you can live on £53 per week, hence there's no problem so Oxfam must be wrong on all counts. breamoreboy
  • Score: 6

10:44pm Wed 11 Jun 14

whataboutthat says...

Mr Burns - pay attention here. This is the Echo bullring. You are being sworded here - before the matador sticks it good and proper in the jugular.
Mr Burns - pay attention here. This is the Echo bullring. You are being sworded here - before the matador sticks it good and proper in the jugular. whataboutthat
  • Score: 3

11:13pm Wed 11 Jun 14

jamesat says...

The rise in poverty is real, and lies firmly at this government's door. The growing social divide is obvious. It would be better if Mr. Burns accepted this and not be 'in denial'.
The rise in poverty is real, and lies firmly at this government's door. The growing social divide is obvious. It would be better if Mr. Burns accepted this and not be 'in denial'. jamesat
  • Score: 2

11:59pm Wed 11 Jun 14

Marty Caine UKIP says...

So if Conner Burns thinks it is political campaigning, then maybe he can enlighten us all as to who they are campaigning for. Looks to me like they a merely pointing out the facts of the sorry state of affairs the country is in.

Over 1 million people in the UK are now needing to use food banks, whilst Conner and his friends in the Westminster bubble giveaway £1 BILLION a month in Foreign Aid. Seems those elected to work in the countries best interest have their priorities totally wrong.
So if Conner Burns thinks it is political campaigning, then maybe he can enlighten us all as to who they are campaigning for. Looks to me like they a merely pointing out the facts of the sorry state of affairs the country is in. Over 1 million people in the UK are now needing to use food banks, whilst Conner and his friends in the Westminster bubble giveaway £1 BILLION a month in Foreign Aid. Seems those elected to work in the countries best interest have their priorities totally wrong. Marty Caine UKIP
  • Score: 3

2:59am Thu 12 Jun 14

MrPitiful says...

pete woodley wrote:
MrPitiful wrote:
Bob49 wrote:
perhaps someone could explain to this b;oated toad that not everyone can claim paliamentary expenses - or spend a fair bit of their time abroad sucking up to middle east despots

it is a sad reflection of our electoral system that this creature is the best we can find to represent us
Blimey Bob, the 1st time I've bothered to use the thumbs up thing and it was one of your posts.

Absolutely bang-on description of Conor Burns and his pointless appointments.

Unfoirtunately, I don't think it is just a fault of the electoral system which is responsible for him wallowing in his office. There is also the problem with those in his constituency who vote for him along with what he stands for. Plus those who sadly don't bother voting at all.
What about the selection committee who chose him.
This is true as well, those who put him in the arena as well. As I said earlier, there is probably a reason why they put somebody like him in the more sfaer seats. I really can't see him being an effective Tory candidate in one of the marginals - or even one of the traditionally working-class areas.

Come on Conor - how about a response to your constituents in this very column?
[quote][p][bold]pete woodley[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MrPitiful[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bob49[/bold] wrote: perhaps someone could explain to this b;oated toad that not everyone can claim paliamentary expenses - or spend a fair bit of their time abroad sucking up to middle east despots it is a sad reflection of our electoral system that this creature is the best we can find to represent us[/p][/quote]Blimey Bob, the 1st time I've bothered to use the thumbs up thing and it was one of your posts. Absolutely bang-on description of Conor Burns and his pointless appointments. Unfoirtunately, I don't think it is just a fault of the electoral system which is responsible for him wallowing in his office. There is also the problem with those in his constituency who vote for him along with what he stands for. Plus those who sadly don't bother voting at all.[/p][/quote]What about the selection committee who chose him.[/p][/quote]This is true as well, those who put him in the arena as well. As I said earlier, there is probably a reason why they put somebody like him in the more sfaer seats. I really can't see him being an effective Tory candidate in one of the marginals - or even one of the traditionally working-class areas. Come on Conor - how about a response to your constituents in this very column? MrPitiful
  • Score: 5

7:16am Thu 12 Jun 14

Baysider says...

Blimey, I didn't realise so many on here voted other than Tory last time and won't next. You didn't right, because otherwise you're moaning about something that you knew would happen and that would be just daft...
Blimey, I didn't realise so many on here voted other than Tory last time and won't next. You didn't right, because otherwise you're moaning about something that you knew would happen and that would be just daft... Baysider
  • Score: 2

11:00am Thu 12 Jun 14

MrPitiful says...

Baysider wrote:
Blimey, I didn't realise so many on here voted other than Tory last time and won't next. You didn't right, because otherwise you're moaning about something that you knew would happen and that would be just daft...
I didn't vote for him and I know plenty of others who didn't either.

The problem is, there are the thousands in Bournemouth who have voted Tory since before the days of dinosaurs. This made them - the rich - even richer and now there is Buttley's chance of them voting for anyone else, regardless of what muppet is square-pegged into standing for the seat.

Hopefully, we are seeing the latter of this generation and not too long in years to come, political tides will change in the town. There are very few people under the age of 30 who even vote, let alone make the effort to go out and vote for somebody like Conor Burns.
[quote][p][bold]Baysider[/bold] wrote: Blimey, I didn't realise so many on here voted other than Tory last time and won't next. You didn't right, because otherwise you're moaning about something that you knew would happen and that would be just daft...[/p][/quote]I didn't vote for him and I know plenty of others who didn't either. The problem is, there are the thousands in Bournemouth who have voted Tory since before the days of dinosaurs. This made them - the rich - even richer and now there is Buttley's chance of them voting for anyone else, regardless of what muppet is square-pegged into standing for the seat. Hopefully, we are seeing the latter of this generation and not too long in years to come, political tides will change in the town. There are very few people under the age of 30 who even vote, let alone make the effort to go out and vote for somebody like Conor Burns. MrPitiful
  • Score: 1

8:21pm Thu 12 Jun 14

breamoreboy says...

"Helping to Tackle Poverty and Injustice Isn't a Matter of Left or Right, But of Right and Wrong" is the headline from http://tinyurl.com/k
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"Helping to Tackle Poverty and Injustice Isn't a Matter of Left or Right, But of Right and Wrong" is the headline from http://tinyurl.com/k 8hjmq2 breamoreboy
  • Score: -1

8:30pm Thu 12 Jun 14

breamoreboy says...

Marty Caine UKIP wrote:
So if Conner Burns thinks it is political campaigning, then maybe he can enlighten us all as to who they are campaigning for. Looks to me like they a merely pointing out the facts of the sorry state of affairs the country is in.

Over 1 million people in the UK are now needing to use food banks, whilst Conner and his friends in the Westminster bubble giveaway £1 BILLION a month in Foreign Aid. Seems those elected to work in the countries best interest have their priorities totally wrong.
Yes, let's keep all the money in the UK and spend it on really worthwhile projects. Fancy wasting all that cash on projects providing (maybe) fresh water, shelter from the elements following some natural disaster or tools for farmers when we could be building a second surf reef or a replacement iMax.
[quote][p][bold]Marty Caine UKIP[/bold] wrote: So if Conner Burns thinks it is political campaigning, then maybe he can enlighten us all as to who they are campaigning for. Looks to me like they a merely pointing out the facts of the sorry state of affairs the country is in. Over 1 million people in the UK are now needing to use food banks, whilst Conner and his friends in the Westminster bubble giveaway £1 BILLION a month in Foreign Aid. Seems those elected to work in the countries best interest have their priorities totally wrong.[/p][/quote]Yes, let's keep all the money in the UK and spend it on really worthwhile projects. Fancy wasting all that cash on projects providing (maybe) fresh water, shelter from the elements following some natural disaster or tools for farmers when we could be building a second surf reef or a replacement iMax. breamoreboy
  • Score: -1

12:05am Fri 13 Jun 14

Marty Caine UKIP says...

breamoreboy wrote:
Marty Caine UKIP wrote:
So if Conner Burns thinks it is political campaigning, then maybe he can enlighten us all as to who they are campaigning for. Looks to me like they a merely pointing out the facts of the sorry state of affairs the country is in.

Over 1 million people in the UK are now needing to use food banks, whilst Conner and his friends in the Westminster bubble giveaway £1 BILLION a month in Foreign Aid. Seems those elected to work in the countries best interest have their priorities totally wrong.
Yes, let's keep all the money in the UK and spend it on really worthwhile projects. Fancy wasting all that cash on projects providing (maybe) fresh water, shelter from the elements following some natural disaster or tools for farmers when we could be building a second surf reef or a replacement iMax.
Foreign Aid doesn't go on those types of things, that is what 10% of money collected by charities goes on, maybe you should try and do a little research on what FA money really does get spent on. The you may stop displaying how naive you are :)
[quote][p][bold]breamoreboy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Marty Caine UKIP[/bold] wrote: So if Conner Burns thinks it is political campaigning, then maybe he can enlighten us all as to who they are campaigning for. Looks to me like they a merely pointing out the facts of the sorry state of affairs the country is in. Over 1 million people in the UK are now needing to use food banks, whilst Conner and his friends in the Westminster bubble giveaway £1 BILLION a month in Foreign Aid. Seems those elected to work in the countries best interest have their priorities totally wrong.[/p][/quote]Yes, let's keep all the money in the UK and spend it on really worthwhile projects. Fancy wasting all that cash on projects providing (maybe) fresh water, shelter from the elements following some natural disaster or tools for farmers when we could be building a second surf reef or a replacement iMax.[/p][/quote]Foreign Aid doesn't go on those types of things, that is what 10% of money collected by charities goes on, maybe you should try and do a little research on what FA money really does get spent on. The you may stop displaying how naive you are :) Marty Caine UKIP
  • Score: 1

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