Killer of Big Issue seller Ralph Millward back in court for house burglary weeks after release from prison

Bournemouth Echo: Craig Real Craig Real

TEENAGE killer Craig Real is back in court only weeks after being released from prison.

Thug Real, now 21, pictured right, savagely beat to death homeless Big Issue seller Ralph Millward, pictured far right, in Westbourne five years ago after he refused to hand over his tobacco.

He and his accomplices Warren Crago and Jimmy Ayres were found guilty of manslaughter the following year and Real was jailed for four years and nine months.

However, in April this year – just two months after his release from prison – he stole a £250 television from a summer house at the rear of a property in Monkton Crescent, Poole.

He pleaded guilty to burglary at Bournemouth Magistrates’ Court. Prosecutor Heather Jackson said Real was caught after police identified his handprint on the window of the summer house.

In mitigation, Mark Price said Real had been homeless as a condition of his release prevents him being in a house with children, despite the fact that his offences “don’t involve children”.

“He was looking for somewhere to sleep, looking to stay in the summer house,” he said.

“It wasn’t locked. He stayed there and then in the morning he accepts he stole the television as he had no money.”

Real, a father-of-one, is now living with a friend in Herbert Avenue, Poole, although his address was given to the court as in Chelmsford Avenue.

Mr Price said Real, who he said was autistic, had been briefly released from jail before, but after three months something “went wrong” and he was locked up again.

Magistrates released Real on conditional bail for a report to be prepared.

He will be sentenced in court on this latest charge of burglary on June 11.

The slaying

RALPH Millward, 41, was kicked and left for dead close to his pitch at Marks & Spencer in Westbourne, after he refused to give up his tobacco to the trio in 2009.

The attack was described by Judge Guy Boney as “mindless, vicious, extreme and chillingly casual”.

Real, then of Rossmore, Poole, was the eldest of the group at nearly 17.

Judge Boney said he had showed “no remorse at all” after returning to the scene to push a shopping trolley into Mr Millward’s broken body.

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5:13am Mon 9 Jun 14

Huey says...

I sincerely hope he gets kicked to death while dossing down in a doorway somewhere.
I sincerely hope he gets kicked to death while dossing down in a doorway somewhere. Huey
  • Score: 190

5:55am Mon 9 Jun 14

Understated says...

what goes around. soon he will live the life ralph did. probably meet the same end at the hands of kids half his age.
what goes around. soon he will live the life ralph did. probably meet the same end at the hands of kids half his age. Understated
  • Score: 163

6:17am Mon 9 Jun 14

boardsandphotos says...

I would be interested to know what was offered to him while in prison in terms of rehabilitation, traning courses etc and whether or not he took part in any of them.
I would be interested to know what was offered to him while in prison in terms of rehabilitation, traning courses etc and whether or not he took part in any of them. boardsandphotos
  • Score: 37

6:38am Mon 9 Jun 14

we-shall-see says...

While he may claim to be homeless, the reality is probably not quite as it seems - I bet he certainly does not have to sleep rough - as poor Ralph and many others do - as is intimated in court. That's more likely to be another of his excuses, rather than own up to what he did like a man. Pathetic piece of flesh and bone, who will never make any genuine contribution to society :o/
While he may claim to be homeless, the reality is probably not quite as it seems - I bet he certainly does not have to sleep rough - as poor Ralph and many others do - as is intimated in court. That's more likely to be another of his excuses, rather than own up to what he did like a man. Pathetic piece of flesh and bone, who will never make any genuine contribution to society :o/ we-shall-see
  • Score: 152

6:42am Mon 9 Jun 14

we-shall-see says...

boardsandphotos wrote:
I would be interested to know what was offered to him while in prison in terms of rehabilitation, traning courses etc and whether or not he took part in any of them.
Prisoners get offered all sorts of courses, rehab etc -but they don't *have* to take part in them - more's the pity. They should be made to engage in re-hab of their chosen lifestyles, even if it means a boot-camp environment. Society needs people to make positive contributions - not sit around for their whole life, leeching off the state and committing crimes such as he did and obviously still does.

Worthless piece of s**t ......
[quote][p][bold]boardsandphotos[/bold] wrote: I would be interested to know what was offered to him while in prison in terms of rehabilitation, traning courses etc and whether or not he took part in any of them.[/p][/quote]Prisoners get offered all sorts of courses, rehab etc -but they don't *have* to take part in them - more's the pity. They should be made to engage in re-hab of their chosen lifestyles, even if it means a boot-camp environment. Society needs people to make positive contributions - not sit around for their whole life, leeching off the state and committing crimes such as he did and obviously still does. Worthless piece of s**t ...... we-shall-see
  • Score: 104

6:58am Mon 9 Jun 14

bosco1 says...

This bloke has little chance in life.He has not learnt his lesson, continues to commit crime. He should be put somewhere where there is 24/7 supervision.Its very doubtful he will ever change his ways and we really dont need these types on our streets.
This bloke has little chance in life.He has not learnt his lesson, continues to commit crime. He should be put somewhere where there is 24/7 supervision.Its very doubtful he will ever change his ways and we really dont need these types on our streets. bosco1
  • Score: 120

7:07am Mon 9 Jun 14

MMM444 says...

" Jailed for four years and nine months for murder " Why waste tax payers money hunting these evil animals down to dish out a pathetic sentence like that for " kicking a man to death ", broken Britain at it's best, absolute joke of a country this place as turned into, Hold your heads in shame you muppets who sentenced this piece of filth, God help us all.
" Jailed for four years and nine months for murder " Why waste tax payers money hunting these evil animals down to dish out a pathetic sentence like that for " kicking a man to death ", broken Britain at it's best, absolute joke of a country this place as turned into, Hold your heads in shame you muppets who sentenced this piece of filth, God help us all. MMM444
  • Score: 161

7:25am Mon 9 Jun 14

oversee says...

One to watch...............
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One to watch............... ...... oversee
  • Score: 45

7:32am Mon 9 Jun 14

kalebmoledirt says...

Get him a season ticket to judge Wiggs gigs
Get him a season ticket to judge Wiggs gigs kalebmoledirt
  • Score: 27

7:52am Mon 9 Jun 14

djd says...

So the prison system has rehabilitated him and he is now fit to take his place in society ??????
So the prison system has rehabilitated him and he is now fit to take his place in society ?????? djd
  • Score: 50

7:56am Mon 9 Jun 14

Minty Fresh says...

Should have been locked away for life. End of.
Should have been locked away for life. End of. Minty Fresh
  • Score: 95

7:56am Mon 9 Jun 14

boardsandphotos says...

djd wrote:
So the prison system has rehabilitated him and he is now fit to take his place in society ??????
Clearly not...
[quote][p][bold]djd[/bold] wrote: So the prison system has rehabilitated him and he is now fit to take his place in society ??????[/p][/quote]Clearly not... boardsandphotos
  • Score: 33

8:18am Mon 9 Jun 14

Bonjovigirl says...

why the hell was this idiot let out? He Murdered a poor man who wasn't doing anything wrong, Manslaughter my arse!!! They knew what they were doing, and they should be locked away for life !!!!
why the hell was this idiot let out? He Murdered a poor man who wasn't doing anything wrong, Manslaughter my arse!!! They knew what they were doing, and they should be locked away for life !!!! Bonjovigirl
  • Score: 98

8:45am Mon 9 Jun 14

smhinto says...

Yey another low echelon, thick, gormlous looking, dysfunctional lunatic who should be gassed and hung up in a gibbett.
.
Then of course we will now get the - leave him alone he comes from a broken home - brigade defending him.
Yey another low echelon, thick, gormlous looking, dysfunctional lunatic who should be gassed and hung up in a gibbett. . Then of course we will now get the - leave him alone he comes from a broken home - brigade defending him. smhinto
  • Score: 69

8:50am Mon 9 Jun 14

iseestupidpeople says...

'Mr Price said Real, who he said was autistic, had been briefly released from jail before, but after three months something “went wrong” and he was locked up again.'

So by something 'went wrong' you mean he committed another offence? So he's already done wrong on release the first time and was then allowed out again? He murders someone and gets less then 5 years in jail. Our justice system is just great isn't it? Smack his bum and tell him off..........oh hang on, you can get a prison sentence for smacking a bum!
'Mr Price said Real, who he said was autistic, had been briefly released from jail before, but after three months something “went wrong” and he was locked up again.' So by something 'went wrong' you mean he committed another offence? So he's already done wrong on release the first time and was then allowed out again? He murders someone and gets less then 5 years in jail. Our justice system is just great isn't it? Smack his bum and tell him off..........oh hang on, you can get a prison sentence for smacking a bum! iseestupidpeople
  • Score: -48

8:55am Mon 9 Jun 14

goatty says...

Bonjovigirl wrote:
why the hell was this idiot let out? He Murdered a poor man who wasn't doing anything wrong, Manslaughter my arse!!! They knew what they were doing, and they should be locked away for life !!!!
Totally agree. How can kicking a defenceless person to death be manslaughter??? It is murder and they should be in prison for life or even better strung up. It clearly shows how out of touch these judges and magistrates are. Why are all judges so old and pompous and have no idea of the real world??
I wonder if this thug had ripped the tax man off what sentence he would have got? Probably a lot longer than 4 years!!!! Its the only thing that is a crime in the liberlite country we live in
[quote][p][bold]Bonjovigirl[/bold] wrote: why the hell was this idiot let out? He Murdered a poor man who wasn't doing anything wrong, Manslaughter my arse!!! They knew what they were doing, and they should be locked away for life !!!![/p][/quote]Totally agree. How can kicking a defenceless person to death be manslaughter??? It is murder and they should be in prison for life or even better strung up. It clearly shows how out of touch these judges and magistrates are. Why are all judges so old and pompous and have no idea of the real world?? I wonder if this thug had ripped the tax man off what sentence he would have got? Probably a lot longer than 4 years!!!! Its the only thing that is a crime in the liberlite country we live in goatty
  • Score: 58

9:06am Mon 9 Jun 14

sherpa69 says...

Bring back conscription.
Bring back conscription. sherpa69
  • Score: 16

9:10am Mon 9 Jun 14

dennisterrey says...

Judging by his facebook, no remorse.. Happy as ever living is life breathing.
Judging by his facebook, no remorse.. Happy as ever living is life breathing. dennisterrey
  • Score: 30

9:12am Mon 9 Jun 14

dennisterrey says...

we-shall-see wrote:
While he may claim to be homeless, the reality is probably not quite as it seems - I bet he certainly does not have to sleep rough - as poor Ralph and many others do - as is intimated in court. That's more likely to be another of his excuses, rather than own up to what he did like a man. Pathetic piece of flesh and bone, who will never make any genuine contribution to society :o/
He has huge support from his family.. i agree, I highly doubt he is sleeping rough, but instead bullsh*tting to get a lesser sentence.
[quote][p][bold]we-shall-see[/bold] wrote: While he may claim to be homeless, the reality is probably not quite as it seems - I bet he certainly does not have to sleep rough - as poor Ralph and many others do - as is intimated in court. That's more likely to be another of his excuses, rather than own up to what he did like a man. Pathetic piece of flesh and bone, who will never make any genuine contribution to society :o/[/p][/quote]He has huge support from his family.. i agree, I highly doubt he is sleeping rough, but instead bullsh*tting to get a lesser sentence. dennisterrey
  • Score: 44

9:12am Mon 9 Jun 14

contric says...

bring back hanging
bring back hanging contric
  • Score: 44

9:12am Mon 9 Jun 14

contric says...

bring back hanging
bring back hanging contric
  • Score: 45

9:51am Mon 9 Jun 14

Stereotyped says...

Why are people like this kept alive, honestly? Human rights my ****, what about the human rights of the person he kicked to death?

Justice?

Should be left to rot at no expense to us tax paying, law abiding citizens who contribute to society.
Why are people like this kept alive, honestly? Human rights my ****, what about the human rights of the person he kicked to death? Justice? Should be left to rot at no expense to us tax paying, law abiding citizens who contribute to society. Stereotyped
  • Score: 39

10:10am Mon 9 Jun 14

speedy231278 says...

Rossmore and Herbert Avenue, need anyone say any more? Perhaps he should consider moving to Roumelia Lane or West Howe?

This scumbag should have had a far longer sentence for his first crime, and been under strict supervision upon release. Doubtless he's now got a kid as an attempt to avoid any significant punishment for his future actions, and we'll probably be footing the bill for it's welfare payments!
Rossmore and Herbert Avenue, need anyone say any more? Perhaps he should consider moving to Roumelia Lane or West Howe? This scumbag should have had a far longer sentence for his first crime, and been under strict supervision upon release. Doubtless he's now got a kid as an attempt to avoid any significant punishment for his future actions, and we'll probably be footing the bill for it's welfare payments! speedy231278
  • Score: 29

10:17am Mon 9 Jun 14

nickynoodah says...

He has earned the right to live in squalor
stick him with nobath
that should teach him.
He has earned the right to live in squalor stick him with nobath that should teach him. nickynoodah
  • Score: 5

10:20am Mon 9 Jun 14

Lord Spring says...

sherpa69 wrote:
Bring back conscription.
That certainly sorted the Krays out.
[quote][p][bold]sherpa69[/bold] wrote: Bring back conscription.[/p][/quote]That certainly sorted the Krays out. Lord Spring
  • Score: 14

10:30am Mon 9 Jun 14

The Cerne Giant says...

Tut Tut

This young man and his accomplices were found guilty of Manslaughter not Murder

Several posters have erred a tad on this very important detail

Hence the lighter sentence

Still a very nasty young man, make no mistake about that
Tut Tut This young man and his accomplices were found guilty of Manslaughter not Murder Several posters have erred a tad on this very important detail Hence the lighter sentence Still a very nasty young man, make no mistake about that The Cerne Giant
  • Score: 12

10:39am Mon 9 Jun 14

spooki says...

"Boo hoo I'm a poor little boy who isn't understood so I'm going to kick the living c**p out of someone then knock a telly." Yes that certainly gets you attention doesn't it?
I don't care where you're from, surely everyone knows stealing and murder are wrong?
"Boo hoo I'm a poor little boy who isn't understood so I'm going to kick the living c**p out of someone then knock a telly." Yes that certainly gets you attention doesn't it? I don't care where you're from, surely everyone knows stealing and murder are wrong? spooki
  • Score: 30

11:15am Mon 9 Jun 14

suzigirl says...

Why do the good ones die and scum like him are still alive?
Why do the good ones die and scum like him are still alive? suzigirl
  • Score: 38

11:20am Mon 9 Jun 14

Guillimot says...

I see that he's also a father! Well, I wonder how he manages to support him/her! That child was certainly dealt a bad hand!
I see that he's also a father! Well, I wonder how he manages to support him/her! That child was certainly dealt a bad hand! Guillimot
  • Score: 28

12:09pm Mon 9 Jun 14

kalebmoledirt says...

Lord Spring wrote:
sherpa69 wrote:
Bring back conscription.
That certainly sorted the Krays out.
I can assure as an ex serviceman. The Armed forces have enough problems of the world that the government think we can sort out without trying to address the problems that the culture and judiciary have created let the law deal with inadequate ratbags like this parasite .the question is what is his or his mates contribution to life .nothing throw them in a cage and feed them with a catapult
[quote][p][bold]Lord Spring[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sherpa69[/bold] wrote: Bring back conscription.[/p][/quote]That certainly sorted the Krays out.[/p][/quote]I can assure as an ex serviceman. The Armed forces have enough problems of the world that the government think we can sort out without trying to address the problems that the culture and judiciary have created let the law deal with inadequate ratbags like this parasite .the question is what is his or his mates contribution to life .nothing throw them in a cage and feed them with a catapult kalebmoledirt
  • Score: 30

12:27pm Mon 9 Jun 14

AdamSFC says...

contric wrote:
bring back hanging
Wouldn't it be great if real solutions were only 3 words long.
[quote][p][bold]contric[/bold] wrote: bring back hanging[/p][/quote]Wouldn't it be great if real solutions were only 3 words long. AdamSFC
  • Score: 14

12:49pm Mon 9 Jun 14

Charliee says...

I was unfortunate enough to know this lad when I was at school. What a despicable, disgusting young boy. He did not deserve his freedom the first time and most definitely not now. He has and will always be a danger to society, lock him up and throw away the key. As for his useless excuse of a mother - lets hope the Grandchildren have NOTHING to do with her. Disgraceful family - and that is to be said about ALL of them.
I was unfortunate enough to know this lad when I was at school. What a despicable, disgusting young boy. He did not deserve his freedom the first time and most definitely not now. He has and will always be a danger to society, lock him up and throw away the key. As for his useless excuse of a mother - lets hope the Grandchildren have NOTHING to do with her. Disgraceful family - and that is to be said about ALL of them. Charliee
  • Score: 57

1:06pm Mon 9 Jun 14

goatty says...

The Cerne Giant wrote:
Tut Tut

This young man and his accomplices were found guilty of Manslaughter not Murder

Several posters have erred a tad on this very important detail

Hence the lighter sentence

Still a very nasty young man, make no mistake about that
Manslaughter is accidental killing or not premeditated.
Kicking to death a defenceless person is in my view murder and not manslaughter. Another case of a weak liberal judge
[quote][p][bold]The Cerne Giant[/bold] wrote: Tut Tut This young man and his accomplices were found guilty of Manslaughter not Murder Several posters have erred a tad on this very important detail Hence the lighter sentence Still a very nasty young man, make no mistake about that[/p][/quote]Manslaughter is accidental killing or not premeditated. Kicking to death a defenceless person is in my view murder and not manslaughter. Another case of a weak liberal judge goatty
  • Score: 32

1:07pm Mon 9 Jun 14

apm1954 says...

get a job git.
get a job git. apm1954
  • Score: 12

1:09pm Mon 9 Jun 14

Teecee1309 says...

He will probably be spend his whole life in and out of prison costing the taxpayers thousands. Enrol him in the army, that should sort him out.
He will probably be spend his whole life in and out of prison costing the taxpayers thousands. Enrol him in the army, that should sort him out. Teecee1309
  • Score: -9

1:15pm Mon 9 Jun 14

bobthedestroyer says...

Waste of space
Waste of space bobthedestroyer
  • Score: 23

1:19pm Mon 9 Jun 14

Sir Beachy Head says...

AdamSFC wrote:
contric wrote:
bring back hanging
Wouldn't it be great if real solutions were only 3 words long.
Bring back hanging soon.
[quote][p][bold]AdamSFC[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]contric[/bold] wrote: bring back hanging[/p][/quote]Wouldn't it be great if real solutions were only 3 words long.[/p][/quote]Bring back hanging soon. Sir Beachy Head
  • Score: 27

1:40pm Mon 9 Jun 14

BournemouthMum says...

Stereotyped wrote:
Why are people like this kept alive, honestly? Human rights my ****, what about the human rights of the person he kicked to death?

Justice?

Should be left to rot at no expense to us tax paying, law abiding citizens who contribute to society.
The fact is that this 'thing' will probably be given more help in his lifetime than any other young person. He'll be helped with accommodation when he comes out of prison, probably do courses inside which others have to pay for etc.and he'll still be a waste of space and drain on taxpayers for the rest of his life.
[quote][p][bold]Stereotyped[/bold] wrote: Why are people like this kept alive, honestly? Human rights my ****, what about the human rights of the person he kicked to death? Justice? Should be left to rot at no expense to us tax paying, law abiding citizens who contribute to society.[/p][/quote]The fact is that this 'thing' will probably be given more help in his lifetime than any other young person. He'll be helped with accommodation when he comes out of prison, probably do courses inside which others have to pay for etc.and he'll still be a waste of space and drain on taxpayers for the rest of his life. BournemouthMum
  • Score: 26

1:45pm Mon 9 Jun 14

podgie says...

WTF????
Let me get this right,Magistrates think it is OK to have this nutter,back out on the streets (he has already killed someone,and is now likely to be interrupted by a defenseless homeowners while he carries out his useless life of crime. )
I wonder what the Magistrates think will happen if their daughter interrupts him during a burglary.
Ohh sorry I forgot we must worry about his human rights before normal hard working taxpayers.
Give me strength.
WTF???? Let me get this right,Magistrates think it is OK to have this nutter,back out on the streets (he has already killed someone,and is now likely to be interrupted by a defenseless homeowners while he carries out his useless life of crime. ) I wonder what the Magistrates think will happen if their daughter interrupts him during a burglary. Ohh sorry I forgot we must worry about his human rights before normal hard working taxpayers. Give me strength. podgie
  • Score: 19

1:56pm Mon 9 Jun 14

skydriver says...

podgie wrote:
WTF????
Let me get this right,Magistrates think it is OK to have this nutter,back out on the streets (he has already killed someone,and is now likely to be interrupted by a defenseless homeowners while he carries out his useless life of crime. )
I wonder what the Magistrates think will happen if their daughter interrupts him during a burglary.
Ohh sorry I forgot we must worry about his human rights before normal hard working taxpayers.
Give me strength.
It's not the magistrates court , it's crown court, there is a difference, please get it right before making outlandish inaccurate comments
[quote][p][bold]podgie[/bold] wrote: WTF???? Let me get this right,Magistrates think it is OK to have this nutter,back out on the streets (he has already killed someone,and is now likely to be interrupted by a defenseless homeowners while he carries out his useless life of crime. ) I wonder what the Magistrates think will happen if their daughter interrupts him during a burglary. Ohh sorry I forgot we must worry about his human rights before normal hard working taxpayers. Give me strength.[/p][/quote]It's not the magistrates court , it's crown court, there is a difference, please get it right before making outlandish inaccurate comments skydriver
  • Score: -16

2:20pm Mon 9 Jun 14

bogtrotter says...

Why do people always talk about 'tax payers money' on articles like this? I'd happily see my money go on filth like this if it means his life is made an utter misery. Sadly, that's probably not going to be the case. Let's just hope for karma.
Why do people always talk about 'tax payers money' on articles like this? I'd happily see my money go on filth like this if it means his life is made an utter misery. Sadly, that's probably not going to be the case. Let's just hope for karma. bogtrotter
  • Score: 14

2:28pm Mon 9 Jun 14

podgie says...

skydriver wrote:
podgie wrote:
WTF????
Let me get this right,Magistrates think it is OK to have this nutter,back out on the streets (he has already killed someone,and is now likely to be interrupted by a defenseless homeowners while he carries out his useless life of crime. )
I wonder what the Magistrates think will happen if their daughter interrupts him during a burglary.
Ohh sorry I forgot we must worry about his human rights before normal hard working taxpayers.
Give me strength.
It's not the magistrates court , it's crown court, there is a difference, please get it right before making outlandish inaccurate comments
Skydrivel
Pot Kettle Black
I quote for the hard of thinking
He pleaded guilty to burglary at Bournemouth Magistrates’ Court.
Magistrates released Real on conditional bail for a report to be prepared.
Derrrrrrrrrrrrr
[quote][p][bold]skydriver[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]podgie[/bold] wrote: WTF???? Let me get this right,Magistrates think it is OK to have this nutter,back out on the streets (he has already killed someone,and is now likely to be interrupted by a defenseless homeowners while he carries out his useless life of crime. ) I wonder what the Magistrates think will happen if their daughter interrupts him during a burglary. Ohh sorry I forgot we must worry about his human rights before normal hard working taxpayers. Give me strength.[/p][/quote]It's not the magistrates court , it's crown court, there is a difference, please get it right before making outlandish inaccurate comments[/p][/quote]Skydrivel Pot Kettle Black I quote for the hard of thinking He pleaded guilty to burglary at Bournemouth Magistrates’ Court. Magistrates released Real on conditional bail for a report to be prepared. Derrrrrrrrrrrrr podgie
  • Score: 14

2:49pm Mon 9 Jun 14

Bonjovigirl says...

goatty wrote:
Bonjovigirl wrote:
why the hell was this idiot let out? He Murdered a poor man who wasn't doing anything wrong, Manslaughter my arse!!! They knew what they were doing, and they should be locked away for life !!!!
Totally agree. How can kicking a defenceless person to death be manslaughter??? It is murder and they should be in prison for life or even better strung up. It clearly shows how out of touch these judges and magistrates are. Why are all judges so old and pompous and have no idea of the real world??
I wonder if this thug had ripped the tax man off what sentence he would have got? Probably a lot longer than 4 years!!!! Its the only thing that is a crime in the liberlite country we live in
Yeah get so annoyed by these judges who just let people off too easy ! I think it should always be a life for a life,whatever age etc,
[quote][p][bold]goatty[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bonjovigirl[/bold] wrote: why the hell was this idiot let out? He Murdered a poor man who wasn't doing anything wrong, Manslaughter my arse!!! They knew what they were doing, and they should be locked away for life !!!![/p][/quote]Totally agree. How can kicking a defenceless person to death be manslaughter??? It is murder and they should be in prison for life or even better strung up. It clearly shows how out of touch these judges and magistrates are. Why are all judges so old and pompous and have no idea of the real world?? I wonder if this thug had ripped the tax man off what sentence he would have got? Probably a lot longer than 4 years!!!! Its the only thing that is a crime in the liberlite country we live in[/p][/quote]Yeah get so annoyed by these judges who just let people off too easy ! I think it should always be a life for a life,whatever age etc, Bonjovigirl
  • Score: 11

5:01pm Mon 9 Jun 14

dennisterrey says...

podgie wrote:
skydriver wrote:
podgie wrote:
WTF????
Let me get this right,Magistrates think it is OK to have this nutter,back out on the streets (he has already killed someone,and is now likely to be interrupted by a defenseless homeowners while he carries out his useless life of crime. )
I wonder what the Magistrates think will happen if their daughter interrupts him during a burglary.
Ohh sorry I forgot we must worry about his human rights before normal hard working taxpayers.
Give me strength.
It's not the magistrates court , it's crown court, there is a difference, please get it right before making outlandish inaccurate comments
Skydrivel
Pot Kettle Black
I quote for the hard of thinking
He pleaded guilty to burglary at Bournemouth Magistrates’ Court.
Magistrates released Real on conditional bail for a report to be prepared.
Derrrrrrrrrrrrr
Owned!
[quote][p][bold]podgie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]skydriver[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]podgie[/bold] wrote: WTF???? Let me get this right,Magistrates think it is OK to have this nutter,back out on the streets (he has already killed someone,and is now likely to be interrupted by a defenseless homeowners while he carries out his useless life of crime. ) I wonder what the Magistrates think will happen if their daughter interrupts him during a burglary. Ohh sorry I forgot we must worry about his human rights before normal hard working taxpayers. Give me strength.[/p][/quote]It's not the magistrates court , it's crown court, there is a difference, please get it right before making outlandish inaccurate comments[/p][/quote]Skydrivel Pot Kettle Black I quote for the hard of thinking He pleaded guilty to burglary at Bournemouth Magistrates’ Court. Magistrates released Real on conditional bail for a report to be prepared. Derrrrrrrrrrrrr[/p][/quote]Owned! dennisterrey
  • Score: 11

5:04pm Mon 9 Jun 14

dennisterrey says...

Bonjovigirl wrote:
goatty wrote:
Bonjovigirl wrote:
why the hell was this idiot let out? He Murdered a poor man who wasn't doing anything wrong, Manslaughter my arse!!! They knew what they were doing, and they should be locked away for life !!!!
Totally agree. How can kicking a defenceless person to death be manslaughter??? It is murder and they should be in prison for life or even better strung up. It clearly shows how out of touch these judges and magistrates are. Why are all judges so old and pompous and have no idea of the real world??
I wonder if this thug had ripped the tax man off what sentence he would have got? Probably a lot longer than 4 years!!!! Its the only thing that is a crime in the liberlite country we live in
Yeah get so annoyed by these judges who just let people off too easy ! I think it should always be a life for a life,whatever age etc,
I agree, but it truly depends on the situation. I think for murder yes and that's what this kid has done. To give him a manslaughter charge is psychotic.
[quote][p][bold]Bonjovigirl[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]goatty[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bonjovigirl[/bold] wrote: why the hell was this idiot let out? He Murdered a poor man who wasn't doing anything wrong, Manslaughter my arse!!! They knew what they were doing, and they should be locked away for life !!!![/p][/quote]Totally agree. How can kicking a defenceless person to death be manslaughter??? It is murder and they should be in prison for life or even better strung up. It clearly shows how out of touch these judges and magistrates are. Why are all judges so old and pompous and have no idea of the real world?? I wonder if this thug had ripped the tax man off what sentence he would have got? Probably a lot longer than 4 years!!!! Its the only thing that is a crime in the liberlite country we live in[/p][/quote]Yeah get so annoyed by these judges who just let people off too easy ! I think it should always be a life for a life,whatever age etc,[/p][/quote]I agree, but it truly depends on the situation. I think for murder yes and that's what this kid has done. To give him a manslaughter charge is psychotic. dennisterrey
  • Score: 10

5:14pm Mon 9 Jun 14

kangaroo_joey says...

What scum!! Who in their right mind would want to be associated with this vile person
What scum!! Who in their right mind would want to be associated with this vile person kangaroo_joey
  • Score: 13

5:48pm Mon 9 Jun 14

Jweston says...

With all due respect Ralph Millward was an alleged Heroine addict,nice guy or not.This paper never mentions that.So let me ask you people who are saying poor man etc etc this...If one of your kids were playing in the park and came running to you with a discarded druggies needle sticking from their arm and they contracted something because of it would you still feel the same ?.
With all due respect Ralph Millward was an alleged Heroine addict,nice guy or not.This paper never mentions that.So let me ask you people who are saying poor man etc etc this...If one of your kids were playing in the park and came running to you with a discarded druggies needle sticking from their arm and they contracted something because of it would you still feel the same ?. Jweston
  • Score: -30

6:34pm Mon 9 Jun 14

Skyrah says...

Craig Real allegedly has ADHD and now autism - that's why the kid gloves and pathetic sentencing for the manslaughter/murder conviction. This is why he won't be rehabbed or learn social skills in prison. Autism, if he really has this, is hereditary and so, unfettered by responsibility or social conscience, he has already started breeding children he will have no chance of supporting, and who will probably turn out to be just as useless/harmful to society!

We need secure institutes for people like Real. Homes where he will be gradually taught responsibility and awareness of others along with the laws and morals that need to be adhered to. Then, and only then, should he be permitted back into society and his "right" to breed examined.

If anyone thinks this young man will improve his behaviour by being given a suspended sentence, community service or a short prison sentence, all I can say is get Real!
Craig Real allegedly has ADHD and now autism - that's why the kid gloves and pathetic sentencing for the manslaughter/murder conviction. This is why he won't be rehabbed or learn social skills in prison. Autism, if he really has this, is hereditary and so, unfettered by responsibility or social conscience, he has already started breeding children he will have no chance of supporting, and who will probably turn out to be just as useless/harmful to society! We need secure institutes for people like Real. Homes where he will be gradually taught responsibility and awareness of others along with the laws and morals that need to be adhered to. Then, and only then, should he be permitted back into society and his "right" to breed examined. If anyone thinks this young man will improve his behaviour by being given a suspended sentence, community service or a short prison sentence, all I can say is get Real! Skyrah
  • Score: 14

6:38pm Mon 9 Jun 14

Jweston says...

And homeless junkies do have a social conscience ?.They're not useless/harmful to society ?
And homeless junkies do have a social conscience ?.They're not useless/harmful to society ? Jweston
  • Score: -12

9:08pm Mon 9 Jun 14

podgie says...

Jweston wrote:
With all due respect Ralph Millward was an alleged Heroine addict,nice guy or not.This paper never mentions that.So let me ask you people who are saying poor man etc etc this...If one of your kids were playing in the park and came running to you with a discarded druggies needle sticking from their arm and they contracted something because of it would you still feel the same ?.
Jweston
You complete Tw*t (allegedly)
Tell us all of your fantastic source for this Heroine Theory of yours which you are happy to spread about this dead man who cannot defend himself.
I knew Ralph he was a harmless down and out who was well read, had a drink problem,and was completely inoffensive and well regarded locally.
I await your brave backing up of your drivel.
[quote][p][bold]Jweston[/bold] wrote: With all due respect Ralph Millward was an alleged Heroine addict,nice guy or not.This paper never mentions that.So let me ask you people who are saying poor man etc etc this...If one of your kids were playing in the park and came running to you with a discarded druggies needle sticking from their arm and they contracted something because of it would you still feel the same ?.[/p][/quote]Jweston You complete Tw*t (allegedly) Tell us all of your fantastic source for this Heroine Theory of yours which you are happy to spread about this dead man who cannot defend himself. I knew Ralph he was a harmless down and out who was well read, had a drink problem,and was completely inoffensive and well regarded locally. I await your brave backing up of your drivel. podgie
  • Score: 23

9:32pm Mon 9 Jun 14

Gingertree says...

An oxygen thief and a complete and utter waste of DNA
An oxygen thief and a complete and utter waste of DNA Gingertree
  • Score: 10

9:55pm Mon 9 Jun 14

corozin says...

Homeless eh? Let's hope he doesn't get attacked by a group of drunken thugs.
Homeless eh? Let's hope he doesn't get attacked by a group of drunken thugs. corozin
  • Score: 11

10:33pm Mon 9 Jun 14

justsayithowitis says...

Jweston wrote:
With all due respect Ralph Millward was an alleged Heroine addict,nice guy or not.This paper never mentions that.So let me ask you people who are saying poor man etc etc this...If one of your kids were playing in the park and came running to you with a discarded druggies needle sticking from their arm and they contracted something because of it would you still feel the same ?.
Yes I would still be disgusted that he was beaten to death. He did not deserve to die in this way but I know of someone who does
[quote][p][bold]Jweston[/bold] wrote: With all due respect Ralph Millward was an alleged Heroine addict,nice guy or not.This paper never mentions that.So let me ask you people who are saying poor man etc etc this...If one of your kids were playing in the park and came running to you with a discarded druggies needle sticking from their arm and they contracted something because of it would you still feel the same ?.[/p][/quote]Yes I would still be disgusted that he was beaten to death. He did not deserve to die in this way but I know of someone who does justsayithowitis
  • Score: 11

11:45pm Mon 9 Jun 14

poolesean says...

does anyone have a honest answer to why hes not allowed near chidren? i have a genuine reason to ask. also homless os i belive is having no address to stay in....hes been staying. at a address as echo has stated and he has been there si how is he been homless or is that stated so he gets away with paying his way or as hes not to be in a home with a child....come on mr judge surley this will. make you ask whats the truth.
does anyone have a honest answer to why hes not allowed near chidren? i have a genuine reason to ask. also homless os i belive is having no address to stay in....hes been staying. at a address as echo has stated and he has been there si how is he been homless or is that stated so he gets away with paying his way or as hes not to be in a home with a child....come on mr judge surley this will. make you ask whats the truth. poolesean
  • Score: 10

11:49pm Mon 9 Jun 14

poolesean says...

sorry above spelling is unclear ...keyboard problem.thanks
sorry above spelling is unclear ...keyboard problem.thanks poolesean
  • Score: 2

12:59am Tue 10 Jun 14

Yankee1 says...

Had he done these crimes where I live, he would this day be in Starke Prison, awaiting a date with Old Sparky. It will take a decade, during which (without exception) he will become an expert on defense law, and become a Born Again Christian.

His fate will be the same.
Had he done these crimes where I live, he would this day be in Starke Prison, awaiting a date with Old Sparky. It will take a decade, during which (without exception) he will become an expert on defense law, and become a Born Again Christian. His fate will be the same. Yankee1
  • Score: 9

6:34am Tue 10 Jun 14

poolesean says...

oh my lord you should follow this on facebook .! echo page lije this on there....couldnt belive what i saw/read...
oh my lord you should follow this on facebook .! echo page lije this on there....couldnt belive what i saw/read... poolesean
  • Score: 7

8:01am Tue 10 Jun 14

itsneverblackorwhite says...

Sadly we fail so many children at an early age by not offering enough support at critical times in their lives perhaps if we did it would not lead to cases such as this. Nobody is born bad and society has to learn from its mistakes to stop young people continuing down the wrong path.
Sadly we fail so many children at an early age by not offering enough support at critical times in their lives perhaps if we did it would not lead to cases such as this. Nobody is born bad and society has to learn from its mistakes to stop young people continuing down the wrong path. itsneverblackorwhite
  • Score: -15

8:23am Tue 10 Jun 14

podgie says...

Jweston wrote:
With all due respect Ralph Millward was an alleged Heroine addict,nice guy or not.This paper never mentions that.So let me ask you people who are saying poor man etc etc this...If one of your kids were playing in the park and came running to you with a discarded druggies needle sticking from their arm and they contracted something because of it would you still feel the same ?.
Jweston
You cowardly weasel.We are all deafened by your total lack of response to your vile posting theory
[quote][p][bold]Jweston[/bold] wrote: With all due respect Ralph Millward was an alleged Heroine addict,nice guy or not.This paper never mentions that.So let me ask you people who are saying poor man etc etc this...If one of your kids were playing in the park and came running to you with a discarded druggies needle sticking from their arm and they contracted something because of it would you still feel the same ?.[/p][/quote]Jweston You cowardly weasel.We are all deafened by your total lack of response to your vile posting theory podgie
  • Score: 6

8:26am Tue 10 Jun 14

podgie says...

podgie wrote:
Jweston wrote:
With all due respect Ralph Millward was an alleged Heroine addict,nice guy or not.This paper never mentions that.So let me ask you people who are saying poor man etc etc this...If one of your kids were playing in the park and came running to you with a discarded druggies needle sticking from their arm and they contracted something because of it would you still feel the same ?.
Jweston
You complete Tw*t (allegedly)
Tell us all of your fantastic source for this Heroine Theory of yours which you are happy to spread about this dead man who cannot defend himself.
I knew Ralph he was a harmless down and out who was well read, had a drink problem,and was completely inoffensive and well regarded locally.
I await your brave backing up of your drivel.
Jweston
You cowardly weasel.We are all deafened by your total lack of response to your vile posting theory
[quote][p][bold]podgie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jweston[/bold] wrote: With all due respect Ralph Millward was an alleged Heroine addict,nice guy or not.This paper never mentions that.So let me ask you people who are saying poor man etc etc this...If one of your kids were playing in the park and came running to you with a discarded druggies needle sticking from their arm and they contracted something because of it would you still feel the same ?.[/p][/quote]Jweston You complete Tw*t (allegedly) Tell us all of your fantastic source for this Heroine Theory of yours which you are happy to spread about this dead man who cannot defend himself. I knew Ralph he was a harmless down and out who was well read, had a drink problem,and was completely inoffensive and well regarded locally. I await your brave backing up of your drivel.[/p][/quote]Jweston You cowardly weasel.We are all deafened by your total lack of response to your vile posting theory podgie
  • Score: 4

8:53am Tue 10 Jun 14

iseestupidpeople says...

Looking at how poorly educated the 'Read accomplices' and fellow murderers are on the Facebook thread it's not surprising these delinquents think it's fine to go around and beat someone to death. What absolute scum the lot of them, and his 'family' who are proud to have such a glowing example in their family unit. If my child/brother was responsible for such a vile act I'd have nothing more to do with them regardless of his 'I didn't mean to' lie. Do they honestly believe that rubbish? As for his poor child, he should be taken into care a very long way away from him and brought up properly. How that girl can be pleased to be with a murderer is beyond me. The child is the one who will suffer. What a horrid horrid circle of 'people'.
Looking at how poorly educated the 'Read accomplices' and fellow murderers are on the Facebook thread it's not surprising these delinquents think it's fine to go around and beat someone to death. What absolute scum the lot of them, and his 'family' who are proud to have such a glowing example in their family unit. If my child/brother was responsible for such a vile act I'd have nothing more to do with them regardless of his 'I didn't mean to' lie. Do they honestly believe that rubbish? As for his poor child, he should be taken into care a very long way away from him and brought up properly. How that girl can be pleased to be with a murderer is beyond me. The child is the one who will suffer. What a horrid horrid circle of 'people'. iseestupidpeople
  • Score: 10

9:21am Tue 10 Jun 14

speedy231278 says...

AdamSFC wrote:
contric wrote:
bring back hanging
Wouldn't it be great if real solutions were only 3 words long.
Like:

Shoot the b*****d?
String them up
Transportation to Australia
Actually punish them
Prison's too cushy

Etc...?
[quote][p][bold]AdamSFC[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]contric[/bold] wrote: bring back hanging[/p][/quote]Wouldn't it be great if real solutions were only 3 words long.[/p][/quote]Like: Shoot the b*****d? String them up Transportation to Australia Actually punish them Prison's too cushy Etc...? speedy231278
  • Score: 4

9:58am Tue 10 Jun 14

rozmister says...

Jweston wrote:
With all due respect Ralph Millward was an alleged Heroine addict,nice guy or not.This paper never mentions that.So let me ask you people who are saying poor man etc etc this...If one of your kids were playing in the park and came running to you with a discarded druggies needle sticking from their arm and they contracted something because of it would you still feel the same ?.
Heroin addict or not no one deserves to be beaten in the gutter and have a trolley thrown on their head for refusing a cigarette to a child.

Not all drug addicts discard their needles in the park, not all drug addicts have diseases, not all drug addicts even use needles to take heroin.

If you know absolutely nothing about a topic here's a word of advice, don't bother commenting. It's better to be thought a fool than open your mouth and prove it.
[quote][p][bold]Jweston[/bold] wrote: With all due respect Ralph Millward was an alleged Heroine addict,nice guy or not.This paper never mentions that.So let me ask you people who are saying poor man etc etc this...If one of your kids were playing in the park and came running to you with a discarded druggies needle sticking from their arm and they contracted something because of it would you still feel the same ?.[/p][/quote]Heroin addict or not no one deserves to be beaten in the gutter and have a trolley thrown on their head for refusing a cigarette to a child. Not all drug addicts discard their needles in the park, not all drug addicts have diseases, not all drug addicts even use needles to take heroin. If you know absolutely nothing about a topic here's a word of advice, don't bother commenting. It's better to be thought a fool than open your mouth and prove it. rozmister
  • Score: 17

12:34pm Tue 10 Jun 14

bogtrotter says...

Jweston wrote:
With all due respect Ralph Millward was an alleged Heroine addict,nice guy or not.This paper never mentions that.So let me ask you people who are saying poor man etc etc this...If one of your kids were playing in the park and came running to you with a discarded druggies needle sticking from their arm and they contracted something because of it would you still feel the same ?.
You completely contradict your theory by using the word 'alleged'. Even if he was, are you condoning a man who has done nothing wrong to another human being to be kicked to death by a mindless thug? If so, you're pretty strange.
[quote][p][bold]Jweston[/bold] wrote: With all due respect Ralph Millward was an alleged Heroine addict,nice guy or not.This paper never mentions that.So let me ask you people who are saying poor man etc etc this...If one of your kids were playing in the park and came running to you with a discarded druggies needle sticking from their arm and they contracted something because of it would you still feel the same ?.[/p][/quote]You completely contradict your theory by using the word 'alleged'. Even if he was, are you condoning a man who has done nothing wrong to another human being to be kicked to death by a mindless thug? If so, you're pretty strange. bogtrotter
  • Score: 10

12:47pm Tue 10 Jun 14

marmalade166 says...

I knew Ralph well, and used heroin with him on multiple occasions - however, not every heroin addict is the demon that the media portrays them as - Ralph was a gentle soul who never intentionally harmed anyone and was certainly socially responsible to not discard his used needles willy nilly. And I am still outraged at the ridiculously light sentence that these c**** received
I knew Ralph well, and used heroin with him on multiple occasions - however, not every heroin addict is the demon that the media portrays them as - Ralph was a gentle soul who never intentionally harmed anyone and was certainly socially responsible to not discard his used needles willy nilly. And I am still outraged at the ridiculously light sentence that these c**** received marmalade166
  • Score: 12

3:06pm Tue 10 Jun 14

Gingertree says...

itsneverblackorwhite wrote:
Sadly we fail so many children at an early age by not offering enough support at critical times in their lives perhaps if we did it would not lead to cases such as this. Nobody is born bad and society has to learn from its mistakes to stop young people continuing down the wrong path.
Im actually gobsmacked Are you for naffin real???? If you're so concerned let the vermin move in with you,then see how you feel
[quote][p][bold]itsneverblackorwhite[/bold] wrote: Sadly we fail so many children at an early age by not offering enough support at critical times in their lives perhaps if we did it would not lead to cases such as this. Nobody is born bad and society has to learn from its mistakes to stop young people continuing down the wrong path.[/p][/quote]Im actually gobsmacked Are you for naffin real???? If you're so concerned let the vermin move in with you,then see how you feel Gingertree
  • Score: 6

10:56pm Tue 10 Jun 14

Jonwel says...

Hanging him with piano wire on the spot where he killed in front of a massive crowd who would love to see it. The Judges lost the plot years ago. What would they sentence if it was there sons who were killed
Hanging him with piano wire on the spot where he killed in front of a massive crowd who would love to see it. The Judges lost the plot years ago. What would they sentence if it was there sons who were killed Jonwel
  • Score: 3

10:12pm Thu 12 Jun 14

HRH of Boscombe says...

Huey wrote:
I sincerely hope he gets kicked to death while dossing down in a doorway somewhere.
Looks quite likely. Sooner the better though.
[quote][p][bold]Huey[/bold] wrote: I sincerely hope he gets kicked to death while dossing down in a doorway somewhere.[/p][/quote]Looks quite likely. Sooner the better though. HRH of Boscombe
  • Score: -1

10:06am Fri 13 Jun 14

Bournemouth87 says...

So when this low life loser gets released again and ends up sleeping on the streets. I hope some lads come and give him a taste of what Ralph felt when surrounded by animals. Before that happens though go back to prison and be a tough guy. Your parents must be super proud of you. SHOWER TIME!!!
So when this low life loser gets released again and ends up sleeping on the streets. I hope some lads come and give him a taste of what Ralph felt when surrounded by animals. Before that happens though go back to prison and be a tough guy. Your parents must be super proud of you. SHOWER TIME!!! Bournemouth87
  • Score: 0

7:47pm Fri 13 Jun 14

MrsF82 says...

I believe that the purpose of our justice system is rehabilitation - that means sentence length is not about revenge, but about the amount of time required to rehabilitate a person until they can become a decent member of society.

HOWEVER, that's all well and good for people who can be rehabilitated - I do believe that those people who are genuinely able to contribute to society without significant risk of reoffending should be released but this needs to be assessed on a case by case basis - release shouldn't be automatic. They should also be supported closely upon release so that they don't reoffend due to lack of funds / basic needs (food, shelter, warmth etc).

In this case, it's very possible that killing the poor guy wasn't their express intention, hence the manslaughter charge. It's a grey area that is exploited by cases like this.

When I think about whether his sentence was too short, I think there's not necessarily a problem with giving an initially short sentence with the intention of rehabilitating a criminal, AS LONG AS this is reassessed throughout their time inside and can be lengthened if it is clear that he remains a danger / likely to reoffend. Clearly, this boy has shown no remorse for the horrific crime he has committed, and is a serious danger to society - rehabilitation would likely be futile and he should have been kept in prison. Simply put, if there is a reasonable assumption that releasing someone would lead to further crimes of any kind, they should not be released full stop. As a tax payer, I'd rather pay for his room and board for the rest of his life than risk running into him.

Like one other commenter, I do think that not enough is done to help children who grow up in violent / criminal / dysfunctional households to prevent them from going the same way. Not all children from those environments end up as criminals, but they are not being given the social and moral training that decent parents provide and, as a society, we are having to pay for the failings of those parents. I'm not saying it's entirely the parents fault either - clearly he is a very dangerous person himself, but I'm sure his upbringing will have contributed to that.

He is a huge risk to all and should be put back inside immediately - although this should have happened before (since the article indicates he has been released twice, only to reoffend).

Finally, I am appalled at some comments implying that Milward was some kind of danger himself. People have such little compassion for vulnerable people in our society, it appalls me. If I was homeless, I'd probably turn to alcohol and drugs too. Would that destroy my morals, my personality, my education or beliefs? Of course not. Just because he may have had a drug problem doesn't mean he was a monster with no regard, leaving dirty needles lying around to stab children. It's appalling that anyone in our country has to sleep rough, and the fact that they are viewed by so many as human waste is no doubt why these boys felt they could kill him and feel no remorse. Just appalling.
I believe that the purpose of our justice system is rehabilitation - that means sentence length is not about revenge, but about the amount of time required to rehabilitate a person until they can become a decent member of society. HOWEVER, that's all well and good for people who can be rehabilitated - I do believe that those people who are genuinely able to contribute to society without significant risk of reoffending should be released but this needs to be assessed on a case by case basis - release shouldn't be automatic. They should also be supported closely upon release so that they don't reoffend due to lack of funds / basic needs (food, shelter, warmth etc). In this case, it's very possible that killing the poor guy wasn't their express intention, hence the manslaughter charge. It's a grey area that is exploited by cases like this. When I think about whether his sentence was too short, I think there's not necessarily a problem with giving an initially short sentence with the intention of rehabilitating a criminal, AS LONG AS this is reassessed throughout their time inside and can be lengthened if it is clear that he remains a danger / likely to reoffend. Clearly, this boy has shown no remorse for the horrific crime he has committed, and is a serious danger to society - rehabilitation would likely be futile and he should have been kept in prison. Simply put, if there is a reasonable assumption that releasing someone would lead to further crimes of any kind, they should not be released full stop. As a tax payer, I'd rather pay for his room and board for the rest of his life than risk running into him. Like one other commenter, I do think that not enough is done to help children who grow up in violent / criminal / dysfunctional households to prevent them from going the same way. Not all children from those environments end up as criminals, but they are not being given the social and moral training that decent parents provide and, as a society, we are having to pay for the failings of those parents. I'm not saying it's entirely the parents fault either - clearly he is a very dangerous person himself, but I'm sure his upbringing will have contributed to that. He is a huge risk to all and should be put back inside immediately - although this should have happened before (since the article indicates he has been released twice, only to reoffend). Finally, I am appalled at some comments implying that Milward was some kind of danger himself. People have such little compassion for vulnerable people in our society, it appalls me. If I was homeless, I'd probably turn to alcohol and drugs too. Would that destroy my morals, my personality, my education or beliefs? Of course not. Just because he may have had a drug problem doesn't mean he was a monster with no regard, leaving dirty needles lying around to stab children. It's appalling that anyone in our country has to sleep rough, and the fact that they are viewed by so many as human waste is no doubt why these boys felt they could kill him and feel no remorse. Just appalling. MrsF82
  • Score: 0

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