Traders facing 12 weeks of disruption

Bournemouth Echo: Marc McHale, owner of  Bournemouth Cycleworks Marc McHale, owner of Bournemouth Cycleworks

THREE months of roadworks begin on a busy Bournemouth route on Monday.

The work, on Christchurch Road in Boscombe East and Iford, will cost around £323,000 and is part of a scheme to improve walking, cycling and bus facilities.

The first stage of the scheme will cover the stretch between Southbourne Road and Warnford Road.

It is part of the Three Towns Travel Initiative, which attracted £12million for Bournemouth, Poole and Christchurch to spend on transport improvements.

Christchurch Road will be given cycle lanes, new parking bays, raised crossings for pedestrians, better street lighting, a new zebra crossing west of Waltham Road and more parking restrictions.

Retailers in Christchurch Road said trade had been badly hit by an earlier phase of work this year.

Marc McHale, of Bournemouth Cycleworks, said: “We were 25 per cent down when the work started in February. Within a week of the work finishing, we were back to record growth.

“I think this is going to be great for the area but it’s frustrating the council don’t listen to us.”

Laura Morgan, of the florist Flaura Boutique, said: “The last time it was supposed to be eight weeks. In the end it was about 11. They estimate 12 weeks this time but who knows how long it’s going to be?

“I’m sure in the long term it’s going to be better but it’s the time of year they decided to do it. They could have started in January, when everyone’s quiet.”

Bridget Moorhouse, manager of the Lighting Shop, said the business had brought forward the start of a closing down sale during the earlier roadworks.

“We started our closing down sale early because we were losing money,” she said.

“It caused a lot of problems and it’s starting again.”

Cllr Michael Filer, Bourne-mouth council’s cabinet member for transport, said: “The area on Christchurch Road between Southbourne Road and Exton Road is heavily used by many local residents, businesses and commuters.

“By improving these facilities we’re able to encourage more people to walk, cycle or take the bus instead, which will help reduce congestion and improve journey times.”

The work will be carried out in two sections – starting between Hambledon Road and Warnford Road and moving on to the area between Holdenhurst Avenue and Southbourne Road.

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9:47am Sat 17 May 14

Townee says...

I can't see why Bournemouth council don't just ban cars from the whole town, because that's the way it seems to be going. Make it impossible to park and that drives people away. Them the shops will shut, house prices will fall, people will be unemployed and the town will be finished.
I can't see why Bournemouth council don't just ban cars from the whole town, because that's the way it seems to be going. Make it impossible to park and that drives people away. Them the shops will shut, house prices will fall, people will be unemployed and the town will be finished. Townee
  • Score: 16

9:50am Sat 17 May 14

wonderway says...

By improving these facilities we’re able to encourage more people to walk, cycle or take the bus instead, which will help reduce congestion and improve journey times.” from council's

they want this
then dont cut buses
dont reduce funding on bus routes
and move UK south towards equator for better weather

a wish never to be fulfilled
By improving these facilities we’re able to encourage more people to walk, cycle or take the bus instead, which will help reduce congestion and improve journey times.” from council's they want this then dont cut buses dont reduce funding on bus routes and move UK south towards equator for better weather a wish never to be fulfilled wonderway
  • Score: 10

11:22am Sat 17 May 14

West moors 1 says...

The highways agency have absolutely no concern for the business's and couldn't careless about the drop in business. Ask a councillor or highways agency manager to take a drastic drop in their wages for 3months and they would look at you as if you were mad! But what do they care, if businesses have to close because this problem knocks them over the edge they will not take any responsibility over it. These workmen will only work an eight hour shift and that includes traveling from their yard and packing away so actual work is about five hours a day. Can you imagine tesco's operating in that way, they know the importance of speed to minimise disruption. As for this project, it's nonsense and shows a complete disconnect from what real people want from the limited resources councils have these days.
The highways agency have absolutely no concern for the business's and couldn't careless about the drop in business. Ask a councillor or highways agency manager to take a drastic drop in their wages for 3months and they would look at you as if you were mad! But what do they care, if businesses have to close because this problem knocks them over the edge they will not take any responsibility over it. These workmen will only work an eight hour shift and that includes traveling from their yard and packing away so actual work is about five hours a day. Can you imagine tesco's operating in that way, they know the importance of speed to minimise disruption. As for this project, it's nonsense and shows a complete disconnect from what real people want from the limited resources councils have these days. West moors 1
  • Score: 8

11:43am Sat 17 May 14

muscliffman says...

So a large number of local residents and businesses in this perfectly functioning and quite attractive part of Christchurch Road asked Bournemouth Council for these expensive changes of doubtful benefit when? We don't remember hearing of the campaign!

We have already seen the results of this 'Three Towns Travel' shambles locally, it drives people away because the unattractive end result will be wholly impractical, extremely unsightly, confusing and dangerous.

If things are not broken stop trying to fix them, virtually NOBODY wants any of this Government funded anti-motorist/busine
ss nonsense - the Council are spending public money here again for the sake of it and then crying fake tears as they make cuts elsewhere in important vital services!
So a large number of local residents and businesses in this perfectly functioning and quite attractive part of Christchurch Road asked Bournemouth Council for these expensive changes of doubtful benefit when? We don't remember hearing of the campaign! We have already seen the results of this 'Three Towns Travel' shambles locally, it drives people away because the unattractive end result will be wholly impractical, extremely unsightly, confusing and dangerous. If things are not broken stop trying to fix them, virtually NOBODY wants any of this Government funded anti-motorist/busine ss nonsense - the Council are spending public money here again for the sake of it and then crying fake tears as they make cuts elsewhere in important vital services! muscliffman
  • Score: 13

11:45am Sat 17 May 14

SympatheticSam says...

If a business can't deal with a bit of roadworks, it's probably not worth being open. Can't be much demand for it.
If a business can't deal with a bit of roadworks, it's probably not worth being open. Can't be much demand for it. SympatheticSam
  • Score: -18

11:53am Sat 17 May 14

Old Colonial says...

SympatheticSam wrote:
If a business can't deal with a bit of roadworks, it's probably not worth being open. Can't be much demand for it.
And your experience of actually running a business is....?
[quote][p][bold]SympatheticSam[/bold] wrote: If a business can't deal with a bit of roadworks, it's probably not worth being open. Can't be much demand for it.[/p][/quote]And your experience of actually running a business is....? Old Colonial
  • Score: 10

12:23pm Sat 17 May 14

SympatheticSam says...

I bet you've been in one of my stores before. One in Winton and on Commercial road. Let the guessing begin.
I bet you've been in one of my stores before. One in Winton and on Commercial road. Let the guessing begin. SympatheticSam
  • Score: -6

1:59pm Sat 17 May 14

nothingtofear says...

SympatheticSam wrote:
I bet you've been in one of my stores before. One in Winton and on Commercial road. Let the guessing begin.
Are you a Big Issue seller?
[quote][p][bold]SympatheticSam[/bold] wrote: I bet you've been in one of my stores before. One in Winton and on Commercial road. Let the guessing begin.[/p][/quote]Are you a Big Issue seller? nothingtofear
  • Score: 11

1:59pm Sat 17 May 14

nothingtofear says...

SympatheticSam wrote:
I bet you've been in one of my stores before. One in Winton and on Commercial road. Let the guessing begin.
Are you a Big Issue seller?
[quote][p][bold]SympatheticSam[/bold] wrote: I bet you've been in one of my stores before. One in Winton and on Commercial road. Let the guessing begin.[/p][/quote]Are you a Big Issue seller? nothingtofear
  • Score: -1

2:37pm Sat 17 May 14

whataboutthat says...

For goodness sake Marc - fold your arms!
For goodness sake Marc - fold your arms! whataboutthat
  • Score: 0

4:37pm Sat 17 May 14

West moors 1 says...

SympatheticSam wrote:
If a business can't deal with a bit of roadworks, it's probably not worth being open. Can't be much demand for it.
Well you sound like a smug git. 3 months is a long time to many businesses to suffer and my sympathy goes to these traders who will be affected for a ill thought through scheme.
[quote][p][bold]SympatheticSam[/bold] wrote: If a business can't deal with a bit of roadworks, it's probably not worth being open. Can't be much demand for it.[/p][/quote]Well you sound like a smug git. 3 months is a long time to many businesses to suffer and my sympathy goes to these traders who will be affected for a ill thought through scheme. West moors 1
  • Score: 1

4:39pm Sat 17 May 14

West moors 1 says...

SympatheticSam wrote:
I bet you've been in one of my stores before. One in Winton and on Commercial road. Let the guessing begin.
Better still, name your businesses so we can make an informed choice whether we want to line your pocket or not!
[quote][p][bold]SympatheticSam[/bold] wrote: I bet you've been in one of my stores before. One in Winton and on Commercial road. Let the guessing begin.[/p][/quote]Better still, name your businesses so we can make an informed choice whether we want to line your pocket or not! West moors 1
  • Score: 2

5:40pm Sat 17 May 14

SympatheticSam says...

nothingtofear wrote:
SympatheticSam wrote:
I bet you've been in one of my stores before. One in Winton and on Commercial road. Let the guessing begin.
Are you a Big Issue seller?
Is there big issue stores in Winton and Bournemouth? No. Try to engage brain first. Dimwit.
[quote][p][bold]nothingtofear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SympatheticSam[/bold] wrote: I bet you've been in one of my stores before. One in Winton and on Commercial road. Let the guessing begin.[/p][/quote]Are you a Big Issue seller?[/p][/quote]Is there big issue stores in Winton and Bournemouth? No. Try to engage brain first. Dimwit. SympatheticSam
  • Score: -4

10:20pm Sat 17 May 14

loftusrod says...

Where's Boscombe East?
Never seen it on a signpost or map.
Where's Boscombe East? Never seen it on a signpost or map. loftusrod
  • Score: 2

10:47pm Sat 17 May 14

Lord Spring says...

loftusrod wrote:
Where's Boscombe East?
Never seen it on a signpost or map.
It is East of the Fremantle area of Bournemouth.
[quote][p][bold]loftusrod[/bold] wrote: Where's Boscombe East? Never seen it on a signpost or map.[/p][/quote]It is East of the Fremantle area of Bournemouth. Lord Spring
  • Score: 0

10:48pm Sat 17 May 14

s-pb2 says...

They have only just finished the last lot of roadworks there that took months for these pointless cycles lanes.

They say its for the benefit of residents. Cant see how. As they are going to be taking away all their parking spaces and pushing them into the side roads, clogging them up even more. Im sure Kalra is on a payment scheme where he gets a bonus for every parking spot he removes in residential areas.
They have only just finished the last lot of roadworks there that took months for these pointless cycles lanes. They say its for the benefit of residents. Cant see how. As they are going to be taking away all their parking spaces and pushing them into the side roads, clogging them up even more. Im sure Kalra is on a payment scheme where he gets a bonus for every parking spot he removes in residential areas. s-pb2
  • Score: 4

8:50am Sun 18 May 14

chelsea53 says...

Bike lanes. Anyone walking from Iford to the hospital in the mornings and after work, will tell you that the cyclists are all on the pavements. Grown men in flashy lycra speeding along dangerously - lads on bikes - women on bikes. Shout at you to get out of the way. Yet the bike lanes remain empty. I would like to suggest the police patrol this area again. Counted 17 on the pavement on my walk the other morning. None in the bike lane. You want them, then use them or face a heavy fine for cycling on the pavement
Bike lanes. Anyone walking from Iford to the hospital in the mornings and after work, will tell you that the cyclists are all on the pavements. Grown men in flashy lycra speeding along dangerously - lads on bikes - women on bikes. Shout at you to get out of the way. Yet the bike lanes remain empty. I would like to suggest the police patrol this area again. Counted 17 on the pavement on my walk the other morning. None in the bike lane. You want them, then use them or face a heavy fine for cycling on the pavement chelsea53
  • Score: 10

9:26am Sun 18 May 14

pete woodley says...

SympatheticSam wrote:
nothingtofear wrote:
SympatheticSam wrote:
I bet you've been in one of my stores before. One in Winton and on Commercial road. Let the guessing begin.
Are you a Big Issue seller?
Is there big issue stores in Winton and Bournemouth? No. Try to engage brain first. Dimwit.
Careful Sam dont upset the dimwits.I have had over 30 shops over the years,and am fully aware of the excuses some shops use when trade is bad.Its not all easy going especially nowadays with high rents and rates,but some shopkeepers seem to live above their takings then look for an excuse.More and more shops are opening later,closing earlier,often shut.Parking their own cars outside,all day leaving little room for shoppers.Sometimes expensive cars and vans with expensive sign writing.In the days gone by it used to be start small get bigger,now its start big,and then blame others when times are hard.
[quote][p][bold]SympatheticSam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nothingtofear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SympatheticSam[/bold] wrote: I bet you've been in one of my stores before. One in Winton and on Commercial road. Let the guessing begin.[/p][/quote]Are you a Big Issue seller?[/p][/quote]Is there big issue stores in Winton and Bournemouth? No. Try to engage brain first. Dimwit.[/p][/quote]Careful Sam dont upset the dimwits.I have had over 30 shops over the years,and am fully aware of the excuses some shops use when trade is bad.Its not all easy going especially nowadays with high rents and rates,but some shopkeepers seem to live above their takings then look for an excuse.More and more shops are opening later,closing earlier,often shut.Parking their own cars outside,all day leaving little room for shoppers.Sometimes expensive cars and vans with expensive sign writing.In the days gone by it used to be start small get bigger,now its start big,and then blame others when times are hard. pete woodley
  • Score: 6

10:15am Sun 18 May 14

muscliffman says...

pete woodley wrote:
SympatheticSam wrote:
nothingtofear wrote:
SympatheticSam wrote:
I bet you've been in one of my stores before. One in Winton and on Commercial road. Let the guessing begin.
Are you a Big Issue seller?
Is there big issue stores in Winton and Bournemouth? No. Try to engage brain first. Dimwit.
Careful Sam dont upset the dimwits.I have had over 30 shops over the years,and am fully aware of the excuses some shops use when trade is bad.Its not all easy going especially nowadays with high rents and rates,but some shopkeepers seem to live above their takings then look for an excuse.More and more shops are opening later,closing earlier,often shut.Parking their own cars outside,all day leaving little room for shoppers.Sometimes expensive cars and vans with expensive sign writing.In the days gone by it used to be start small get bigger,now its start big,and then blame others when times are hard.
Some wise words in there for anyone who wants to read them.
[quote][p][bold]pete woodley[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SympatheticSam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nothingtofear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SympatheticSam[/bold] wrote: I bet you've been in one of my stores before. One in Winton and on Commercial road. Let the guessing begin.[/p][/quote]Are you a Big Issue seller?[/p][/quote]Is there big issue stores in Winton and Bournemouth? No. Try to engage brain first. Dimwit.[/p][/quote]Careful Sam dont upset the dimwits.I have had over 30 shops over the years,and am fully aware of the excuses some shops use when trade is bad.Its not all easy going especially nowadays with high rents and rates,but some shopkeepers seem to live above their takings then look for an excuse.More and more shops are opening later,closing earlier,often shut.Parking their own cars outside,all day leaving little room for shoppers.Sometimes expensive cars and vans with expensive sign writing.In the days gone by it used to be start small get bigger,now its start big,and then blame others when times are hard.[/p][/quote]Some wise words in there for anyone who wants to read them. muscliffman
  • Score: 2

4:33pm Sun 18 May 14

sprintervanman says...

Interesting reading regarding cycle lanes in the UK.Take a look at the average cycle lane design in the UK.They follow a straight line and then ends at a junction, the point when a cyclist requires a safe space.The cyclist then has to rejoin traffic requiring the motorist behind to allow them to do this.So perhaps not the case of why cyclist do not use cycle lanes but more the case of why should they use poorly designed ones to start with when they are no better off at the end of it.
Interesting reading regarding cycle lanes in the UK.Take a look at the average cycle lane design in the UK.They follow a straight line and then ends at a junction, the point when a cyclist requires a safe space.The cyclist then has to rejoin traffic requiring the motorist behind to allow them to do this.So perhaps not the case of why cyclist do not use cycle lanes but more the case of why should they use poorly designed ones to start with when they are no better off at the end of it. sprintervanman
  • Score: 2

5:23pm Sun 18 May 14

susi.m says...

Are all the local councillors and senior managers at the council now going to be not using their cars. Will they now be cycling everywhere or using the buses every day. I don't think so.
Do as I say not as I do ....................
........
At the local elections next year we should all just vote for non car using councillors. Not many votes to be cast then.
Are all the local councillors and senior managers at the council now going to be not using their cars. Will they now be cycling everywhere or using the buses every day. I don't think so. Do as I say not as I do .................... ........ At the local elections next year we should all just vote for non car using councillors. Not many votes to be cast then. susi.m
  • Score: 1

6:58pm Sun 18 May 14

mikeymagic says...

Well they screwed up the so called improvements at the bottom of Pokesdown Hill so might as well continue making a pigs ear of it all.
Well they screwed up the so called improvements at the bottom of Pokesdown Hill so might as well continue making a pigs ear of it all. mikeymagic
  • Score: 1

10:09pm Sun 18 May 14

super_soup says...

I'm as cynical as anybody on this site, however, credit where credit is due, I do think the new traffic lights at the end of Holdenhurst Avenue have made things better. Still not sure what benefit these cycle lanes bring though!
I'm as cynical as anybody on this site, however, credit where credit is due, I do think the new traffic lights at the end of Holdenhurst Avenue have made things better. Still not sure what benefit these cycle lanes bring though! super_soup
  • Score: 3

5:24pm Mon 19 May 14

loftusrod says...

sprintervanman wrote:
Interesting reading regarding cycle lanes in the UK.Take a look at the average cycle lane design in the UK.They follow a straight line and then ends at a junction, the point when a cyclist requires a safe space.The cyclist then has to rejoin traffic requiring the motorist behind to allow them to do this.So perhaps not the case of why cyclist do not use cycle lanes but more the case of why should they use poorly designed ones to start with when they are no better off at the end of it.
Absolutely.
As l've said before in these stories, bike lanes are dangerous.
[quote][p][bold]sprintervanman[/bold] wrote: Interesting reading regarding cycle lanes in the UK.Take a look at the average cycle lane design in the UK.They follow a straight line and then ends at a junction, the point when a cyclist requires a safe space.The cyclist then has to rejoin traffic requiring the motorist behind to allow them to do this.So perhaps not the case of why cyclist do not use cycle lanes but more the case of why should they use poorly designed ones to start with when they are no better off at the end of it.[/p][/quote]Absolutely. As l've said before in these stories, bike lanes are dangerous. loftusrod
  • Score: 1

4:37pm Wed 21 May 14

Carl Baron says...

Hundreds of thousands of pounds Lost due to Roadworks being carried out in Prime Summertime Trading periods this goes on all over the UK No good management skills whatsoever. As you can see from this video not one person doing any WORK @ http://tinyurl.com/o
jx3zs6

In France they often carry out roadworks at night under floodlight on one lane then the next day the do the other lane but not here in the UK

It seems UK Government are doing everything they can to wreck the country. Vote UKIP for common sense.
Hundreds of thousands of pounds Lost due to Roadworks being carried out in Prime Summertime Trading periods this goes on all over the UK No good management skills whatsoever. As you can see from this video not one person doing any WORK @ http://tinyurl.com/o jx3zs6 In France they often carry out roadworks at night under floodlight on one lane then the next day the do the other lane but not here in the UK It seems UK Government are doing everything they can to wreck the country. Vote UKIP for common sense. Carl Baron
  • Score: 0

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