LiveLIVE COVERAGE: Public meeting over Navitus wind farm plans

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Summary

  • A public meeting is being held at the BIC over how Bournemouth council should respond to the Navitus Bay wind farm application.
  • The Planning Inspectorate has confirmed Navitus Bay has lodged a valid planning application and has published 18,000 pages of supporting documents.
  • The £3billion wind farm would consist of up to 194 turbines, up to 200 metres high.
  • Cables would hit land at Taddiford Gap, between Barton-on-Sea and New Milton, and run 22 miles to a new sub-station at Mannington near Wimborne.
  • Bournemouth Borough Council does not get to decide on the application but is being consulted.
  • The Planning Inspectorate is expected to make the final decision next year.

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2:13pm Sat 10 May 14

Townee says...

NIMBY's out in force, stirred up by a minority as usual.
I hope this government do the right thing and build them offshore, better than onshore.
NIMBY's out in force, stirred up by a minority as usual. I hope this government do the right thing and build them offshore, better than onshore. Townee
  • Score: -3

2:15pm Sat 10 May 14

Townee says...

Nearly enough hot air to generate megawatts of power.
Nearly enough hot air to generate megawatts of power. Townee
  • Score: -5

2:29pm Sat 10 May 14

muscliffman says...

Townee wrote:
NIMBY's out in force, stirred up by a minority as usual.
I hope this government do the right thing and build them offshore, better than onshore.
NIMBY's are NOT the real threat to these wind farm proposals, it's people engaging their brains and using a bit of common sense who will probably put an end to them.
[quote][p][bold]Townee[/bold] wrote: NIMBY's out in force, stirred up by a minority as usual. I hope this government do the right thing and build them offshore, better than onshore.[/p][/quote]NIMBY's are NOT the real threat to these wind farm proposals, it's people engaging their brains and using a bit of common sense who will probably put an end to them. muscliffman
  • Score: 3

3:31pm Sat 10 May 14

roysses says...

There are four Anti's alowed to speak, including an MP. The MP in favour was not invited by the "independed" chairman. One of those four is an Ofiicer of the Council paid for by me.

Only two speakers were allowed to talk in favour of the proposal, Navitas and a resident from Southbourne. Where were the other two to make equal time for both the Pro and Aniti views?

Have the Bournemouth Chief Executive and Tourism Director both decided to use our money to decide the decision?
There are four Anti's alowed to speak, including an MP. The MP in favour was not invited by the "independed" chairman. One of those four is an Ofiicer of the Council paid for by me. Only two speakers were allowed to talk in favour of the proposal, Navitas and a resident from Southbourne. Where were the other two to make equal time for both the Pro and Aniti views? Have the Bournemouth Chief Executive and Tourism Director both decided to use our money to decide the decision? roysses
  • Score: 0

3:58pm Sat 10 May 14

Townee says...

As usual the meeting is anti and so is the Echo, most comments are anti and as was said only a few people got to speak for the wind farm while many were allowed to speak against it.
This shows what Beasley and his clan want as usual nothing good for Bournemouth unless they get their cut.
This will be built and the government will have the final say not all the NIMBY's who would have us all back in the dark ages. We need power and not from Europe and Russia, we need our own power generation.
As usual the meeting is anti and so is the Echo, most comments are anti and as was said only a few people got to speak for the wind farm while many were allowed to speak against it. This shows what Beasley and his clan want as usual nothing good for Bournemouth unless they get their cut. This will be built and the government will have the final say not all the NIMBY's who would have us all back in the dark ages. We need power and not from Europe and Russia, we need our own power generation. Townee
  • Score: -2

5:28pm Sat 10 May 14

carrrob says...

Townee wrote:
As usual the meeting is anti and so is the Echo, most comments are anti and as was said only a few people got to speak for the wind farm while many were allowed to speak against it.
This shows what Beasley and his clan want as usual nothing good for Bournemouth unless they get their cut.
This will be built and the government will have the final say not all the NIMBY's who would have us all back in the dark ages. We need power and not from Europe and Russia, we need our own power generation.
Get real you have China and The rest of the world outside of europe polluting on a massive scale what this country doed will make no difference !
Be assured this is all about money and not save the planet.
[quote][p][bold]Townee[/bold] wrote: As usual the meeting is anti and so is the Echo, most comments are anti and as was said only a few people got to speak for the wind farm while many were allowed to speak against it. This shows what Beasley and his clan want as usual nothing good for Bournemouth unless they get their cut. This will be built and the government will have the final say not all the NIMBY's who would have us all back in the dark ages. We need power and not from Europe and Russia, we need our own power generation.[/p][/quote]Get real you have China and The rest of the world outside of europe polluting on a massive scale what this country doed will make no difference ! Be assured this is all about money and not save the planet. carrrob
  • Score: 1

5:38pm Sat 10 May 14

Sir Retry69 says...

At last the whole of the silent majority have shown up,all 600+ slight improvement on the usual dirty dozen lol :)
At last the whole of the silent majority have shown up,all 600+ slight improvement on the usual dirty dozen lol :) Sir Retry69
  • Score: -5

5:42pm Sat 10 May 14

ShuttleX says...

roysses wrote:
There are four Anti's alowed to speak, including an MP. The MP in favour was not invited by the "independed" chairman. One of those four is an Ofiicer of the Council paid for by me.

Only two speakers were allowed to talk in favour of the proposal, Navitas and a resident from Southbourne. Where were the other two to make equal time for both the Pro and Aniti views?

Have the Bournemouth Chief Executive and Tourism Director both decided to use our money to decide the decision?
The Council can't decide roysses. All they can do is try and please everybody, so as not to lose votes by taking sides.I find it funny really. For years the Council have been "consulting" the public, then doing what they like anyway. Now the shoe is on the other foot. They are being "consulted" but no notice will be taken of what they want. Priceless. Meetings like this are a waste of time. Those who are anti windfarm won't change their minds, nor will the ones in favour. Just go ahead and build the thing.
[quote][p][bold]roysses[/bold] wrote: There are four Anti's alowed to speak, including an MP. The MP in favour was not invited by the "independed" chairman. One of those four is an Ofiicer of the Council paid for by me. Only two speakers were allowed to talk in favour of the proposal, Navitas and a resident from Southbourne. Where were the other two to make equal time for both the Pro and Aniti views? Have the Bournemouth Chief Executive and Tourism Director both decided to use our money to decide the decision?[/p][/quote]The Council can't decide roysses. All they can do is try and please everybody, so as not to lose votes by taking sides.I find it funny really. For years the Council have been "consulting" the public, then doing what they like anyway. Now the shoe is on the other foot. They are being "consulted" but no notice will be taken of what they want. Priceless. Meetings like this are a waste of time. Those who are anti windfarm won't change their minds, nor will the ones in favour. Just go ahead and build the thing. ShuttleX
  • Score: -7

5:43pm Sat 10 May 14

Sir Retry69 says...

Don't see the usual handful of commenters on here ,obviously down there to make up the numbers
Don't see the usual handful of commenters on here ,obviously down there to make up the numbers Sir Retry69
  • Score: -3

6:16pm Sat 10 May 14

muscliffman says...

Townee wrote:
As usual the meeting is anti and so is the Echo, most comments are anti and as was said only a few people got to speak for the wind farm while many were allowed to speak against it.
This shows what Beasley and his clan want as usual nothing good for Bournemouth unless they get their cut.
This will be built and the government will have the final say not all the NIMBY's who would have us all back in the dark ages. We need power and not from Europe and Russia, we need our own power generation.
Correct "We need power and not from Europe and Russia, we need our own power generation."

But is has to be efficient, reliable 24/7 and inexpensive - so clean coal, shale gas and nuclear are the ONLY realistic options available to us at present - and we already have our own absolutely vast UK stocks of the first two fuels.
[quote][p][bold]Townee[/bold] wrote: As usual the meeting is anti and so is the Echo, most comments are anti and as was said only a few people got to speak for the wind farm while many were allowed to speak against it. This shows what Beasley and his clan want as usual nothing good for Bournemouth unless they get their cut. This will be built and the government will have the final say not all the NIMBY's who would have us all back in the dark ages. We need power and not from Europe and Russia, we need our own power generation.[/p][/quote]Correct "We need power and not from Europe and Russia, we need our own power generation." But is has to be efficient, reliable 24/7 and inexpensive - so clean coal, shale gas and nuclear are the ONLY realistic options available to us at present - and we already have our own absolutely vast UK stocks of the first two fuels. muscliffman
  • Score: 3

6:41pm Sat 10 May 14

Flusters says...

Not in my back yard... in my opinion that's what the French and Dutch, who own Navitus say. Why don't they build wind farms on their most beautiful parts of coastline instead of ours? St Tropez... Cap d'azure... can you imagine it? Why don't they then send us their energy via a pipeline across the Kent coastline and accept fracking in their country side (which doesn't seem on the face of it such a bad thing to me) instead of taking power from ours?

There are SO many anti Navitus valid points... preservation of wildlife, and migrating birds, ruining iconic boating areas and coastline, tourism and the beauty of this iconic area, yet most of the comments here are making personal insults and not maintaining a valid argument.

Young or old, rich or poor, if you are a local resident and especially if your ancestors have been born here for generations you are entitled to an opinion on this subject.

After he and his brother gave their lives defending the mouth of Poole harbour, Harry Paye must be turning in his grave as we just give this global heritage, historical, magnificent nautical site away.
Not in my back yard... in my opinion that's what the French and Dutch, who own Navitus say. Why don't they build wind farms on their most beautiful parts of coastline instead of ours? St Tropez... Cap d'azure... can you imagine it? Why don't they then send us their energy via a pipeline across the Kent coastline and accept fracking in their country side (which doesn't seem on the face of it such a bad thing to me) instead of taking power from ours? There are SO many anti Navitus valid points... preservation of wildlife, and migrating birds, ruining iconic boating areas and coastline, tourism and the beauty of this iconic area, yet most of the comments here are making personal insults and not maintaining a valid argument. Young or old, rich or poor, if you are a local resident and especially if your ancestors have been born here for generations you are entitled to an opinion on this subject. After he and his brother gave their lives defending the mouth of Poole harbour, Harry Paye must be turning in his grave as we just give this global heritage, historical, magnificent nautical site away. Flusters
  • Score: 0

7:37pm Sat 10 May 14

ShuttleX says...

muscliffman said ..."But is has to be efficient, reliable 24/7 and inexpensive - so clean coal, shale gas and nuclear are the ONLY realistic options available to us at present - and we already have our own absolutely vast UK stocks of the first two fuels."

As long as none of them are produced in your back yard? No problem if somebody else has to put up with the coal mines, shale extraction sites, or a nice big nuclear power station? All the arguments I have heard against this windfarm all seem to have one thing in common....Not In My Back Yard.
muscliffman said ..."But is has to be efficient, reliable 24/7 and inexpensive - so clean coal, shale gas and nuclear are the ONLY realistic options available to us at present - and we already have our own absolutely vast UK stocks of the first two fuels." As long as none of them are produced in your back yard? No problem if somebody else has to put up with the coal mines, shale extraction sites, or a nice big nuclear power station? All the arguments I have heard against this windfarm all seem to have one thing in common....Not In My Back Yard. ShuttleX
  • Score: 0

8:13pm Sat 10 May 14

rogerlu says...

Had i been able to attend I would have attempted to make the following points in favour of the proposal.
1) The East Coast tourism industry has not been damaged by wind farms and oil installation off the Lincolnshire and Norfolk coasts. Why should Bournemouth be any different?
2) A postcode map recently published shows that every address in Bournemouth is in danger of "fracking". Fracking seems to be the alternative energy source to Windfarms. Having lived over 40 years in a colliery area I have seen the ravages of subsidence on homes businesses and roads; fracking has similar undermining effects. Is this really what residents want.
If residents are so determined to prevent steps being taken to contain climate change that they risk their lives through drowning as the planet heats that is their affair. Just don't expose others to the effects of their Nimbyist attitudes.
Had i been able to attend I would have attempted to make the following points in favour of the proposal. 1) The East Coast tourism industry has not been damaged by wind farms and oil installation off the Lincolnshire and Norfolk coasts. Why should Bournemouth be any different? 2) A postcode map recently published shows that every address in Bournemouth is in danger of "fracking". Fracking seems to be the alternative energy source to Windfarms. Having lived over 40 years in a colliery area I have seen the ravages of subsidence on homes businesses and roads; fracking has similar undermining effects. Is this really what residents want. If residents are so determined to prevent steps being taken to contain climate change that they risk their lives through drowning as the planet heats that is their affair. Just don't expose others to the effects of their Nimbyist attitudes. rogerlu
  • Score: 0

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