Anti-cuts protesters demonstrate at Poole

Bournemouth Echo: Anti-cuts protesters demonstrate at Poole Anti-cuts protesters demonstrate at Poole

CAMPAIGNERS opposed to swingeing government cuts and the privatisation of public services demonstrated outside Poole Civic Centre this evening.

Around 20 Bournemouth & Poole Anti-Cuts Coalition members, who think Borough of Poole could be reducing its budget for care provision, gathered ahead of the evening’s full council meeting.

Carer and group coalition member Shelley Wilson told the Daily Echo: “At the moment we have letters from private companies saying they’re cutting wages because local authorities are cutting their budgets, but I have not got it clarified that local authorities here, in Bournemouth, Poole or Dorset, have done this. We will have to wait and see.”

Poole’s adult social care cabinet member, Cllr Karen Rampton, said the majority of the town’s residents fund their own care, and that the council is only “responsible for funding a very small portion of the care market”.

The councillor added: “The council does not control the business end of the private care sector but the wellbeing and safety of all our residents is paramount.”

The Anti-Cuts Coalition says Borough of Poole is one of a number of local authorities identified by private care providers as reducing its budget.

Campaigners say this can have the knock-on effect of lowered wages for carers. “Unimaginable a few years ago, private care providers nationally are now slashing staff wages by up to 50 per cent,” said a coalition spokesman.

“If carers refuse the cut they are being dismissed and re-engaged at a lower rate.” The spokesman said many carers had been forced out of jobs they loved and worked in for decades.

He added: “Now 40 per cent of the cuts have been rolled out nationally, many people in receipt of care or working as a carer are being subjected to loss of benefits, mobility cars, day care and many carers facing this cut in their wage.”

Cllr Rampton stressed the council is committed to providing the best levels of care and monitors services to ensure high standards.

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7:01pm Tue 22 Apr 14

BIGTONE says...

They are too busy filling in their expense forms to see what's going on outside the building.

Move on......

Nothing to see here....
They are too busy filling in their expense forms to see what's going on outside the building. Move on...... Nothing to see here.... BIGTONE
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7:37pm Tue 22 Apr 14

High Treason says...

Private care.....the biggest rip off there is. Hotels offer better food and accommodation a lot cheaper. I have never known a private care home to go bankrupt. Care in the home is a con, they charge a fortune but only pay staff a pittance.
Private care.....the biggest rip off there is. Hotels offer better food and accommodation a lot cheaper. I have never known a private care home to go bankrupt. Care in the home is a con, they charge a fortune but only pay staff a pittance. High Treason
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8:11pm Tue 22 Apr 14

NormalPerson21 says...

Some of those look pure evil.. like they'd hit me with those banners. 2ND CUT PAY YES WAY!!!!
Some of those look pure evil.. like they'd hit me with those banners. 2ND CUT PAY YES WAY!!!! NormalPerson21
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8:12pm Tue 22 Apr 14

bobthedestroyer says...

Its unfortunate that the previous government borrowed like mad and didn't care about future generations. On the flip side the current bunch are addressing the debt but aren't thinking of the non-executive workers regardless of job.
Its unfortunate that the previous government borrowed like mad and didn't care about future generations. On the flip side the current bunch are addressing the debt but aren't thinking of the non-executive workers regardless of job. bobthedestroyer
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8:15pm Tue 22 Apr 14

NormalPerson21 says...

Wish I could have been down there to do a counter-protest but I am too scared.
Wish I could have been down there to do a counter-protest but I am too scared. NormalPerson21
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8:59pm Tue 22 Apr 14

Baysider says...

bobthedestroyer wrote:
Its unfortunate that the previous government borrowed like mad and didn't care about future generations. On the flip side the current bunch are addressing the debt but aren't thinking of the non-executive workers regardless of job.
Rubbish. George Osborne has already borrowed far more than Labour did during their whole time in government.
[quote][p][bold]bobthedestroyer[/bold] wrote: Its unfortunate that the previous government borrowed like mad and didn't care about future generations. On the flip side the current bunch are addressing the debt but aren't thinking of the non-executive workers regardless of job.[/p][/quote]Rubbish. George Osborne has already borrowed far more than Labour did during their whole time in government. Baysider
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9:08pm Tue 22 Apr 14

Bournemouth Ohec says...

Is the Echo reporting this impartially?

By using an opening sentence describing government cuts as 'swingeing' I would suggest not.
Is the Echo reporting this impartially? By using an opening sentence describing government cuts as 'swingeing' I would suggest not. Bournemouth Ohec
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9:11pm Tue 22 Apr 14

Baysider says...

High Treason wrote:
Private care.....the biggest rip off there is. Hotels offer better food and accommodation a lot cheaper. I have never known a private care home to go bankrupt. Care in the home is a con, they charge a fortune but only pay staff a pittance.
Never heard of Southern Cross care homes then? Google it you might find it educational and it'll be a useful experience in actually equiping yourself with some facts before spouting your opinion ad nausea.
[quote][p][bold]High Treason[/bold] wrote: Private care.....the biggest rip off there is. Hotels offer better food and accommodation a lot cheaper. I have never known a private care home to go bankrupt. Care in the home is a con, they charge a fortune but only pay staff a pittance.[/p][/quote]Never heard of Southern Cross care homes then? Google it you might find it educational and it'll be a useful experience in actually equiping yourself with some facts before spouting your opinion ad nausea. Baysider
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9:21pm Tue 22 Apr 14

ldc says...

NormalPerson21 wrote:
Some of those look pure evil.. like they'd hit me with those banners. 2ND CUT PAY YES WAY!!!!
Normal person the irony . I like to think most normal people don't look at group of disabled people and staff and label them scary . Maybe best you do stay inside as you suggest
[quote][p][bold]NormalPerson21[/bold] wrote: Some of those look pure evil.. like they'd hit me with those banners. 2ND CUT PAY YES WAY!!!![/p][/quote]Normal person the irony . I like to think most normal people don't look at group of disabled people and staff and label them scary . Maybe best you do stay inside as you suggest ldc
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10:34pm Tue 22 Apr 14

Brock_and_Roll says...

Not sure what these protestors are going on about. The amount paid to care home providers has been frozen for quite a few years. At a time of rising food and energy costs this has seen many care homes go bust and staff had not seen wage rises etc. Our home has been to the very edge during this period.

BUT only a week or so ago we got a letter from Dorset CC saying that at long last there will be a modest but welcome INCREASE in the fee level paid. I understand that other service purchasers (i.e. local authorities) in the area will follow suit.

As for those who say care fees are a rip off, I cannot speak for home helps, but the council pay £435 or so for residential care per week. Sounds a lot....but we are talking 24 hour care with all that this involves. Our staff work bl**dy hard in a job that can be unpleasant - we look forward to giving them a well deserved rise!
Not sure what these protestors are going on about. The amount paid to care home providers has been frozen for quite a few years. At a time of rising food and energy costs this has seen many care homes go bust and staff had not seen wage rises etc. Our home has been to the very edge during this period. BUT only a week or so ago we got a letter from Dorset CC saying that at long last there will be a modest but welcome INCREASE in the fee level paid. I understand that other service purchasers (i.e. local authorities) in the area will follow suit. As for those who say care fees are a rip off, I cannot speak for home helps, but the council pay £435 or so for residential care per week. Sounds a lot....but we are talking 24 hour care with all that this involves. Our staff work bl**dy hard in a job that can be unpleasant - we look forward to giving them a well deserved rise! Brock_and_Roll
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10:56pm Tue 22 Apr 14

ldc says...

Brock_and_Roll wrote:
Not sure what these protestors are going on about. The amount paid to care home providers has been frozen for quite a few years. At a time of rising food and energy costs this has seen many care homes go bust and staff had not seen wage rises etc. Our home has been to the very edge during this period.

BUT only a week or so ago we got a letter from Dorset CC saying that at long last there will be a modest but welcome INCREASE in the fee level paid. I understand that other service purchasers (i.e. local authorities) in the area will follow suit.

As for those who say care fees are a rip off, I cannot speak for home helps, but the council pay £435 or so for residential care per week. Sounds a lot....but we are talking 24 hour care with all that this involves. Our staff work bl**dy hard in a job that can be unpleasant - we look forward to giving them a well deserved rise!
That is because you are lucky enough to be still employed in the public sector . Learning disability and challenging behaviour services where privatised in 2011. After decades of service to the nhs months after the tupe transfer we lost thirty percent of wage . We now face a twenty percent cut from hourly rate and many feel they just as well stack shelves as they don't hit back for the new hourly rate or have to leave as a 50percent cut since transfer is hard to adjust to . Meaning those we care for will lose long term trusted staff . The private providers claim the authorities are putting them under pressure and have cut their funding hence the reason we need to take another twenty percent hit . Hope that explains it beware of privatisation plenty of cash for the directors though
[quote][p][bold]Brock_and_Roll[/bold] wrote: Not sure what these protestors are going on about. The amount paid to care home providers has been frozen for quite a few years. At a time of rising food and energy costs this has seen many care homes go bust and staff had not seen wage rises etc. Our home has been to the very edge during this period. BUT only a week or so ago we got a letter from Dorset CC saying that at long last there will be a modest but welcome INCREASE in the fee level paid. I understand that other service purchasers (i.e. local authorities) in the area will follow suit. As for those who say care fees are a rip off, I cannot speak for home helps, but the council pay £435 or so for residential care per week. Sounds a lot....but we are talking 24 hour care with all that this involves. Our staff work bl**dy hard in a job that can be unpleasant - we look forward to giving them a well deserved rise![/p][/quote]That is because you are lucky enough to be still employed in the public sector . Learning disability and challenging behaviour services where privatised in 2011. After decades of service to the nhs months after the tupe transfer we lost thirty percent of wage . We now face a twenty percent cut from hourly rate and many feel they just as well stack shelves as they don't hit back for the new hourly rate or have to leave as a 50percent cut since transfer is hard to adjust to . Meaning those we care for will lose long term trusted staff . The private providers claim the authorities are putting them under pressure and have cut their funding hence the reason we need to take another twenty percent hit . Hope that explains it beware of privatisation plenty of cash for the directors though ldc
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11:28pm Tue 22 Apr 14

step up says...

12:49pm Tue 22 Apr 14
step up says...

Bournemouth Council tried the same with Tarik Zavadil and lost. Forget protests and go to Judicial Review. His staff of 15 years were to be sacked and 'reinstated' at entry level wages after years of service to him. They were his extended family. The council were found to have guilty of malpractice and service failure by the ombudsman. Take the council to court and dont accept this kind of treatment. Its the only thing they understand. Protest wont do it. Irwin Mitchell will defend the vulnerable against this kind of undermining of their care. Tarik was found to be at risk of further disability or even fatality if his trained staff were sacked and replaced. Probably the case for many Poole residents too.
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12:49pm Tue 22 Apr 14 step up says... Bournemouth Council tried the same with Tarik Zavadil and lost. Forget protests and go to Judicial Review. His staff of 15 years were to be sacked and 'reinstated' at entry level wages after years of service to him. They were his extended family. The council were found to have guilty of malpractice and service failure by the ombudsman. Take the council to court and dont accept this kind of treatment. Its the only thing they understand. Protest wont do it. Irwin Mitchell will defend the vulnerable against this kind of undermining of their care. Tarik was found to be at risk of further disability or even fatality if his trained staff were sacked and replaced. Probably the case for many Poole residents too. Score: 1 Like Dislike Quote » Report this post » step up
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11:33pm Tue 22 Apr 14

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3:17pm Tue 22 Apr 14
step up says...

Should add the totally vulnerable and disabled and their
dedicated long term committed care staff caused the financial crisis didnt they??? Not the spivs in the City still raking in telephone number bonuses not taking 50% in salaries or any cut at all! Dont take it ! These folk dont have a voice !!!
The irony is that one of the protesters featured in the photo used to work for Bournemouth Council as an officer proposing and instigating exactly the cuts to staff and pay that he is now shouting about !!
3:17pm Tue 22 Apr 14 step up says... Should add the totally vulnerable and disabled and their dedicated long term committed care staff caused the financial crisis didnt they??? Not the spivs in the City still raking in telephone number bonuses not taking 50% in salaries or any cut at all! Dont take it ! These folk dont have a voice !!! The irony is that one of the protesters featured in the photo used to work for Bournemouth Council as an officer proposing and instigating exactly the cuts to staff and pay that he is now shouting about !! step up
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11:54pm Tue 22 Apr 14

bobthedestroyer says...

Baysider wrote:
bobthedestroyer wrote:
Its unfortunate that the previous government borrowed like mad and didn't care about future generations. On the flip side the current bunch are addressing the debt but aren't thinking of the non-executive workers regardless of job.
Rubbish. George Osborne has already borrowed far more than Labour did during their whole time in government.
Apologies for having an opinion based on the information that I have seen on the BBC
[quote][p][bold]Baysider[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bobthedestroyer[/bold] wrote: Its unfortunate that the previous government borrowed like mad and didn't care about future generations. On the flip side the current bunch are addressing the debt but aren't thinking of the non-executive workers regardless of job.[/p][/quote]Rubbish. George Osborne has already borrowed far more than Labour did during their whole time in government.[/p][/quote]Apologies for having an opinion based on the information that I have seen on the BBC bobthedestroyer
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8:09am Wed 23 Apr 14

dorsetspeed says...

If we just had a bit of efficiency and common sense there would be no need for cuts. School buses have been cancelled to our school because the council won't pay the subsidies, resulting in increased congestion, pollution, danger, etc. but they are happy spending millions on cycles lanes that will never be used and pointless traffic lights on roundabouts etc. (which also increase congestion, pollutions, accidents, etc).

You could hardly make it up.
If we just had a bit of efficiency and common sense there would be no need for cuts. School buses have been cancelled to our school because the council won't pay the subsidies, resulting in increased congestion, pollution, danger, etc. but they are happy spending millions on cycles lanes that will never be used and pointless traffic lights on roundabouts etc. (which also increase congestion, pollutions, accidents, etc). You could hardly make it up. dorsetspeed
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8:47am Wed 23 Apr 14

Mad Karew says...

While most of the cuts originate from central government, the council's PFH shouldn't just be shrugging her shoulders and disowning the problem; she should be looking to see what the council can do about it.

Doesn't the council have a responsibility to oversee the quality of care of its residents? Surely that includes making sure that the people who deliver that care are given the best opportunity to do their job, not driven out of the industry by low wages?
While most of the cuts originate from central government, the council's PFH shouldn't just be shrugging her shoulders and disowning the problem; she should be looking to see what the council can do about it. Doesn't the council have a responsibility to oversee the quality of care of its residents? Surely that includes making sure that the people who deliver that care are given the best opportunity to do their job, not driven out of the industry by low wages? Mad Karew
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8:50am Wed 23 Apr 14

Baysider says...

bobthedestroyer wrote:
Baysider wrote:
bobthedestroyer wrote:
Its unfortunate that the previous government borrowed like mad and didn't care about future generations. On the flip side the current bunch are addressing the debt but aren't thinking of the non-executive workers regardless of job.
Rubbish. George Osborne has already borrowed far more than Labour did during their whole time in government.
Apologies for having an opinion based on the information that I have seen on the BBC
No you haven't. You think you've seen it on the BBC because that's what you wanted to see not what the reality is.
[quote][p][bold]bobthedestroyer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baysider[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bobthedestroyer[/bold] wrote: Its unfortunate that the previous government borrowed like mad and didn't care about future generations. On the flip side the current bunch are addressing the debt but aren't thinking of the non-executive workers regardless of job.[/p][/quote]Rubbish. George Osborne has already borrowed far more than Labour did during their whole time in government.[/p][/quote]Apologies for having an opinion based on the information that I have seen on the BBC[/p][/quote]No you haven't. You think you've seen it on the BBC because that's what you wanted to see not what the reality is. Baysider
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