Magna Academy in Poole proposes longer hours for children to improve their learning

LONGER DAY: Richard Tutt, principal of Magna Academy Poole

LONGER DAY: Richard Tutt, principal of Magna Academy Poole

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TEENAGERS at a Poole academy could be putting in an extra four hours of study if proposals to extend the working day are approved.

Magna Academy Poole at Canford Heath is currently consulting parents about extending the school day until 4.30pm three days a week for Year 10 and 11 students from September this year.

The proposal is to lengthen the day on Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday each week, which would be mandatory for all Year 10 and 11 students aged 14-16.

This would provide an extra four hours of teaching and the academy says educational research indicates that longer school days are one of the best ways to bring about school improvement.

The additional teaching time would allow all Year 10 and 11 students to receive more English and maths tuition compared to other schools.

The academy said it believed that it was “absolutely vital” to secure the very best grades for their students, who range in age from 12 to 18.

Having what would be a sixth period of study in the day would provide the opportunity to either study an additional GCSE subject, receive additional English or maths, benefit from small group tuition or another activity, the academy said.

Principal Richard Tutt said: “Magna Academy Poole is committed to achieving the very best outcomes for every student in its care, both personally and academically.

“Our intention to lengthen the academy day is part of our ongoing determined drive to achieve excellence, in order to significantly raise achievement and maximise the life chances of our students.”

There will be an information evening for parents after the Easter holidays.

The former technology college was opened as an academy by the Aspirations Academies Trust in September 2013.

It has benefited from a £14million new build and a £1.3million IT system.

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7:24am Tue 22 Apr 14

BluebirdDorset says...

And meanwhile teachers threaten more industrial action in June.
And meanwhile teachers threaten more industrial action in June. BluebirdDorset
  • Score: -8

7:32am Tue 22 Apr 14

apm1954 says...

oh dear i can ses a strike 2 weeks xmas 2 weeks easter 6 weeks summer plus all the half terms about 12 weeks holiday tells you a story i think.
oh dear i can ses a strike 2 weeks xmas 2 weeks easter 6 weeks summer plus all the half terms about 12 weeks holiday tells you a story i think. apm1954
  • Score: -18

8:46am Tue 22 Apr 14

Tango Charlie says...

It would be more interesting if the schools were to fall into line with the government plans for the NHS. |
The NHS idea being that, as important (expensive) pieces of equipment or not being used during the night, it is OK to expect the sick, frail and elderly come in at midnight for a scan.
So why not the schools?
After all, these are expensive buildings with lots of expensive equipment in them so we should have 24 hour schooling too. As there is talk about sending 2 year olds to school now, why not send them at 10pm? It would free up space during the day.
Of course, the late slots, midnight plus, would be better suited to teenagers. Their bodies are suited to mornings in bed and it would keep them off the streets in the evening.
It would be more interesting if the schools were to fall into line with the government plans for the NHS. | The NHS idea being that, as important (expensive) pieces of equipment or not being used during the night, it is OK to expect the sick, frail and elderly come in at midnight for a scan. So why not the schools? After all, these are expensive buildings with lots of expensive equipment in them so we should have 24 hour schooling too. As there is talk about sending 2 year olds to school now, why not send them at 10pm? It would free up space during the day. Of course, the late slots, midnight plus, would be better suited to teenagers. Their bodies are suited to mornings in bed and it would keep them off the streets in the evening. Tango Charlie
  • Score: 6

9:03am Tue 22 Apr 14

Carolyn43 says...

The teachers there might not belong to any union. If they don't then there'll be no strikes. There are 3 main teachers unions, usually it's only one of them that is fond of strikes. That's why not all teachers go on strike when one is called.

Plus, being academy, it can employ anyone it likes to teach, not necessarily qualified teachers and pay them what they like. They are outside the local authority control and can do as they please to make a profit for the sponsor.
The teachers there might not belong to any union. If they don't then there'll be no strikes. There are 3 main teachers unions, usually it's only one of them that is fond of strikes. That's why not all teachers go on strike when one is called. Plus, being academy, it can employ anyone it likes to teach, not necessarily qualified teachers and pay them what they like. They are outside the local authority control and can do as they please to make a profit for the sponsor. Carolyn43
  • Score: 15

9:05am Tue 22 Apr 14

RM says...

It's not just the amount of hours that count but how they are spent. The equivalent of the business phrase 'doing the right things - doing things right'. Are academies a good thing or just another social engineering experiment that are costing our children dearly by failing to actually educate them?
It's not just the amount of hours that count but how they are spent. The equivalent of the business phrase 'doing the right things - doing things right'. Are academies a good thing or just another social engineering experiment that are costing our children dearly by failing to actually educate them? RM
  • Score: 24

10:14am Tue 22 Apr 14

uvox44 says...

Strange idea as I thought the prevailing idea now was less hours not more, quality not quantity. Even prestigious Universities like Harvard are telling their students to work less to get a more rounded experience- or is it that we are, as usual, several years behind in our approach? One day education will be focused on providing students with the widest range of skills to flourish not just about collecting certificates and becoming useful economic assets to big companies- one can but dream!
Strange idea as I thought the prevailing idea now was less hours not more, quality not quantity. Even prestigious Universities like Harvard are telling their students to work less to get a more rounded experience- or is it that we are, as usual, several years behind in our approach? One day education will be focused on providing students with the widest range of skills to flourish not just about collecting certificates and becoming useful economic assets to big companies- one can but dream! uvox44
  • Score: 19

10:20am Tue 22 Apr 14

High Treason says...

More hours for the same pay and most likely by the unqualified, all for profit.
Teachers hours of work, here it is.
http://www.bbc.co.uk
/news/education-2708
7942
More hours for the same pay and most likely by the unqualified, all for profit. Teachers hours of work, here it is. http://www.bbc.co.uk /news/education-2708 7942 High Treason
  • Score: 9

10:36am Tue 22 Apr 14

i hate do gooders has returned after having account closed !! says...

if they didn't have so many teacher training days and strikes ect !!!!!!!
if they didn't have so many teacher training days and strikes ect !!!!!!! i hate do gooders has returned after having account closed !!
  • Score: -20

11:16am Tue 22 Apr 14

keith milton says...

nothing to do with improving anything,

its about the further brainwashing of kids by 'common purpose',

and keeping families apart for longer,

the state now owns your children and the destruction of the family unit is the agenda,an EU/COMMON PURPOSE PLAN.
nothing to do with improving anything, its about the further brainwashing of kids by 'common purpose', and keeping families apart for longer, the state now owns your children and the destruction of the family unit is the agenda,an EU/COMMON PURPOSE PLAN. keith milton
  • Score: -6

1:42pm Tue 22 Apr 14

Morrigan says...

When I was at both secondary and junior schools in the 70's, we started at 8.45am and finished at 4.00pm with 45 min lunch break and that was from age 4 ½ to 16. These days schools start at 9, lunch is up to 90 mins and finish at 3pm. Hardly enough time to open a book, let alone LEARN something!! All schools should be open until at least 3.30pm in my opinion .....
When I was at both secondary and junior schools in the 70's, we started at 8.45am and finished at 4.00pm with 45 min lunch break and that was from age 4 ½ to 16. These days schools start at 9, lunch is up to 90 mins and finish at 3pm. Hardly enough time to open a book, let alone LEARN something!! All schools should be open until at least 3.30pm in my opinion ..... Morrigan
  • Score: 2

1:50pm Tue 22 Apr 14

guisselle says...

Tango Charlie wrote:
It would be more interesting if the schools were to fall into line with the government plans for the NHS. |
The NHS idea being that, as important (expensive) pieces of equipment or not being used during the night, it is OK to expect the sick, frail and elderly come in at midnight for a scan.
So why not the schools?
After all, these are expensive buildings with lots of expensive equipment in them so we should have 24 hour schooling too. As there is talk about sending 2 year olds to school now, why not send them at 10pm? It would free up space during the day.
Of course, the late slots, midnight plus, would be better suited to teenagers. Their bodies are suited to mornings in bed and it would keep them off the streets in the evening.
Good thinking outside the box, why not the whole school system needs a
shake-up, good luck to Magna Academy!
[quote][p][bold]Tango Charlie[/bold] wrote: It would be more interesting if the schools were to fall into line with the government plans for the NHS. | The NHS idea being that, as important (expensive) pieces of equipment or not being used during the night, it is OK to expect the sick, frail and elderly come in at midnight for a scan. So why not the schools? After all, these are expensive buildings with lots of expensive equipment in them so we should have 24 hour schooling too. As there is talk about sending 2 year olds to school now, why not send them at 10pm? It would free up space during the day. Of course, the late slots, midnight plus, would be better suited to teenagers. Their bodies are suited to mornings in bed and it would keep them off the streets in the evening.[/p][/quote]Good thinking outside the box, why not the whole school system needs a shake-up, good luck to Magna Academy! guisselle
  • Score: 1

3:39pm Tue 22 Apr 14

guisselle says...

Morrigan wrote:
When I was at both secondary and junior schools in the 70's, we started at 8.45am and finished at 4.00pm with 45 min lunch break and that was from age 4 ½ to 16. These days schools start at 9, lunch is up to 90 mins and finish at 3pm. Hardly enough time to open a book, let alone LEARN something!! All schools should be open until at least 3.30pm in my opinion .....
Gerry mandering seems to be gaining ground, if the system works why change
it? Choice should be given to parents as to how their off-spring are taught.
[quote][p][bold]Morrigan[/bold] wrote: When I was at both secondary and junior schools in the 70's, we started at 8.45am and finished at 4.00pm with 45 min lunch break and that was from age 4 ½ to 16. These days schools start at 9, lunch is up to 90 mins and finish at 3pm. Hardly enough time to open a book, let alone LEARN something!! All schools should be open until at least 3.30pm in my opinion .....[/p][/quote]Gerry mandering seems to be gaining ground, if the system works why change it? Choice should be given to parents as to how their off-spring are taught. guisselle
  • Score: -3

4:55pm Tue 22 Apr 14

twynhamob says...

Morrigan wrote:
When I was at both secondary and junior schools in the 70's, we started at 8.45am and finished at 4.00pm with 45 min lunch break and that was from age 4 ½ to 16. These days schools start at 9, lunch is up to 90 mins and finish at 3pm. Hardly enough time to open a book, let alone LEARN something!! All schools should be open until at least 3.30pm in my opinion .....
So where did you go to school. You can see where I went from my "handle" I too went to school in the 70's our day started at 8:55, 20 minute break mid-morning, 1 hour and 20mins for lunch and we finished at 3:40. 90% of us came out fine, the difference, is not how long, but the quality, we all knew how to be disciplined and how to act in the classroom, it is all a matter of ethics, and more importantly, the quality of teachers back then. Back then only about 10% of students had behavioural problems, unfortunately today it only 10% who are wanting to learn.
[quote][p][bold]Morrigan[/bold] wrote: When I was at both secondary and junior schools in the 70's, we started at 8.45am and finished at 4.00pm with 45 min lunch break and that was from age 4 ½ to 16. These days schools start at 9, lunch is up to 90 mins and finish at 3pm. Hardly enough time to open a book, let alone LEARN something!! All schools should be open until at least 3.30pm in my opinion .....[/p][/quote]So where did you go to school. You can see where I went from my "handle" I too went to school in the 70's our day started at 8:55, 20 minute break mid-morning, 1 hour and 20mins for lunch and we finished at 3:40. 90% of us came out fine, the difference, is not how long, but the quality, we all knew how to be disciplined and how to act in the classroom, it is all a matter of ethics, and more importantly, the quality of teachers back then. Back then only about 10% of students had behavioural problems, unfortunately today it only 10% who are wanting to learn. twynhamob
  • Score: 10

5:54pm Tue 22 Apr 14

apm1954 says...

apm1954 wrote:
oh dear i can ses a strike 2 weeks xmas 2 weeks easter 6 weeks summer plus all the half terms about 12 weeks holiday tells you a story i think.
am i right think so should rename teachers tourists.
[quote][p][bold]apm1954[/bold] wrote: oh dear i can ses a strike 2 weeks xmas 2 weeks easter 6 weeks summer plus all the half terms about 12 weeks holiday tells you a story i think.[/p][/quote]am i right think so should rename teachers tourists. apm1954
  • Score: -5

6:14pm Tue 22 Apr 14

ToniandJeff says...

I don't know about longer hours but I believe that a school should actually have education during school time from proper qualified teachers and with my experience so far with this school SINCE IT TURNED TO AN ACADEMY, this surely isn't the case !!! The students who attend this school are those who are suffering..
I don't know about longer hours but I believe that a school should actually have education during school time from proper qualified teachers and with my experience so far with this school SINCE IT TURNED TO AN ACADEMY, this surely isn't the case !!! The students who attend this school are those who are suffering.. ToniandJeff
  • Score: 13

6:56pm Tue 22 Apr 14

60plus says...

I know someone who goes to their sixth form and claims they are sitting around half the day because their ain't enough teachers.
I know someone who goes to their sixth form and claims they are sitting around half the day because their ain't enough teachers. 60plus
  • Score: 9

7:26pm Tue 22 Apr 14

nermal says...

Private schools all work longer days.

Discuss.
Private schools all work longer days. Discuss. nermal
  • Score: 3

7:43pm Tue 22 Apr 14

High Treason says...

ToniandJeff wrote:
I don't know about longer hours but I believe that a school should actually have education during school time from proper qualified teachers and with my experience so far with this school SINCE IT TURNED TO AN ACADEMY, this surely isn't the case !!! The students who attend this school are those who are suffering..
Qualified teachers cost more because most have spent years learning specialist subjects and have degrees. Unqualified teachers teach from a script and have no specialist knowledge in a subject, therefore more are available and at a cheaper rate.
[quote][p][bold]ToniandJeff[/bold] wrote: I don't know about longer hours but I believe that a school should actually have education during school time from proper qualified teachers and with my experience so far with this school SINCE IT TURNED TO AN ACADEMY, this surely isn't the case !!! The students who attend this school are those who are suffering..[/p][/quote]Qualified teachers cost more because most have spent years learning specialist subjects and have degrees. Unqualified teachers teach from a script and have no specialist knowledge in a subject, therefore more are available and at a cheaper rate. High Treason
  • Score: 8

7:44pm Tue 22 Apr 14

High Treason says...

nermal wrote:
Private schools all work longer days.

Discuss.
Maybe but the pay and conditions are better.
[quote][p][bold]nermal[/bold] wrote: Private schools all work longer days. Discuss.[/p][/quote]Maybe but the pay and conditions are better. High Treason
  • Score: 8

7:58pm Tue 22 Apr 14

nermal says...

High Treason wrote:
nermal wrote:
Private schools all work longer days.

Discuss.
Maybe but the pay and conditions are better.
Actually they aren't.
[quote][p][bold]High Treason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nermal[/bold] wrote: Private schools all work longer days. Discuss.[/p][/quote]Maybe but the pay and conditions are better.[/p][/quote]Actually they aren't. nermal
  • Score: -1

8:48pm Tue 22 Apr 14

fireflier says...

nermal wrote:
High Treason wrote:
nermal wrote:
Private schools all work longer days.

Discuss.
Maybe but the pay and conditions are better.
Actually they aren't.
But the kids clear off on their holidays at least a week and sometimes more before the state schools break up!
[quote][p][bold]nermal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]High Treason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nermal[/bold] wrote: Private schools all work longer days. Discuss.[/p][/quote]Maybe but the pay and conditions are better.[/p][/quote]Actually they aren't.[/p][/quote]But the kids clear off on their holidays at least a week and sometimes more before the state schools break up! fireflier
  • Score: 5

10:32pm Tue 22 Apr 14

sammmymac says...

Surely the aim should be quality if lessons rather than quantity of lessons.
Surely the aim should be quality if lessons rather than quantity of lessons. sammmymac
  • Score: 8

3:54am Wed 23 Apr 14

guisselle says...

To have a degree or not to have a degree that is the question!
To have a degree or not to have a degree that is the question! guisselle
  • Score: -3

2:12pm Wed 23 Apr 14

Ganmor says...

It would be a good idea if the Headmaster were to review his strategies & only make changes when he has full support of the majority of parents/guardians.

The Academy has not made an impressive performance during the initial few months, possibly the problem is poor quality of the staff and the need to improve their skills.
It would be a good idea if the Headmaster were to review his strategies & only make changes when he has full support of the majority of parents/guardians. The Academy has not made an impressive performance during the initial few months, possibly the problem is poor quality of the staff and the need to improve their skills. Ganmor
  • Score: 1

9:49pm Wed 23 Apr 14

Hippity Dog says...

nermal wrote:
Private schools all work longer days.

Discuss.
And have longer holidays
[quote][p][bold]nermal[/bold] wrote: Private schools all work longer days. Discuss.[/p][/quote]And have longer holidays Hippity Dog
  • Score: 1

9:52pm Wed 23 Apr 14

Hippity Dog says...

nermal wrote:
High Treason wrote:
nermal wrote:
Private schools all work longer days.

Discuss.
Maybe but the pay and conditions are better.
Actually they aren't.
Nermal, you generalise far too much. Many teachers at private school get free board and lodgings, others do not. Private schools, and academies, are not bound by national pay and conditions and can therefore do as they please.
[quote][p][bold]nermal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]High Treason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nermal[/bold] wrote: Private schools all work longer days. Discuss.[/p][/quote]Maybe but the pay and conditions are better.[/p][/quote]Actually they aren't.[/p][/quote]Nermal, you generalise far too much. Many teachers at private school get free board and lodgings, others do not. Private schools, and academies, are not bound by national pay and conditions and can therefore do as they please. Hippity Dog
  • Score: 0

11:17am Thu 24 Apr 14

fireflier says...

Hippity Dog wrote:
nermal wrote:
High Treason wrote:
nermal wrote:
Private schools all work longer days.

Discuss.
Maybe but the pay and conditions are better.
Actually they aren't.
Nermal, you generalise far too much. Many teachers at private school get free board and lodgings, others do not. Private schools, and academies, are not bound by national pay and conditions and can therefore do as they please.
The political move to allow Academies to jump ship from the rules that guide teaching allows them to do as they please, which in the case of St Aldhems/Rushmoor/Kem
p Welsh meant the management were totally free to make the huge mess of letting some thief free access to their financial accounts.
If this Magna Academy finds the school day extension doesn't work how many hours of experiementation will have gone on with these kids before realisation dawns on the leadership?

If you put too much into the hands of some of these unelected power-rangers who are running these places there is no overall limiting factors to keep them from doing whatever comes into their head.
[quote][p][bold]Hippity Dog[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nermal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]High Treason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nermal[/bold] wrote: Private schools all work longer days. Discuss.[/p][/quote]Maybe but the pay and conditions are better.[/p][/quote]Actually they aren't.[/p][/quote]Nermal, you generalise far too much. Many teachers at private school get free board and lodgings, others do not. Private schools, and academies, are not bound by national pay and conditions and can therefore do as they please.[/p][/quote]The political move to allow Academies to jump ship from the rules that guide teaching allows them to do as they please, which in the case of St Aldhems/Rushmoor/Kem p Welsh meant the management were totally free to make the huge mess of letting some thief free access to their financial accounts. If this Magna Academy finds the school day extension doesn't work how many hours of experiementation will have gone on with these kids before realisation dawns on the leadership? If you put too much into the hands of some of these unelected power-rangers who are running these places there is no overall limiting factors to keep them from doing whatever comes into their head. fireflier
  • Score: 0

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