Cyclist attacks OAP after 'riding on the pavement' row, Boscombe

Cyclist attacks OAP after 'riding on the pavement' row, Boscombe

Cyclist attacks OAP after 'riding on the pavement' row, Boscombe

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AN elderly man sustained a broken hip after being attacked by a cyclist in Boscombe today.

The incident, in which a 77-year-old Bournemouth pensioner was pushed to the floor by a male cyclist, happened outside the George Fry electrical store on the corner of Christchurch Road and Parkwood Road just after 9am.

The victim was rushed to Poole Hospital, where he is still receiving treatment.

Detective Sergeant Andy Bell, of Bournemouth CID, said: "I understand that the victim asked a group of cyclists to stop riding along the pavement and that one of these cyclists pushed him to the ground, causing serious injury.

"The offender then cycled away along Christchurch Road toward Boscombe town centre."

The offender is white and was wearing a grey hooded top, with the hood up. He was riding a dark coloured bicycle.

DS Bell continued: "The elderly victim requires surgery to treat his injuries and is facing a lengthy recovery.

"I am appealing for anyone who witnessed this incident, and anyone with any information about the man responsible, to contact me urgently.

"This area will have been busy at this time of the morning and I am keen to speak with anyone who can help me with this investigation."

Witnesses and anyone with information should call Dorset Police in confidence on 101, quoting incident number 19:119. Alternatively, call the free and anonymous Crimestoppers line on 0800 555 111 where mobile phone tariffs may apply.

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5:23pm Sat 19 Apr 14

Huey says...

Hmmm yet again. Maybe instead of building the tardis cops could actually police our pavements a bit. Not as newsworthy but a lot more useful.
Hope the old gent pulls through ok.
Hmmm yet again. Maybe instead of building the tardis cops could actually police our pavements a bit. Not as newsworthy but a lot more useful. Hope the old gent pulls through ok. Huey
  • Score: 153

5:24pm Sat 19 Apr 14

notapeopleperson says...

these people that commit these acts bring absolutely nothing to society, absolute scumbag, I hope at some point the perp gets hit very hard by a bus travelling very fast
these people that commit these acts bring absolutely nothing to society, absolute scumbag, I hope at some point the perp gets hit very hard by a bus travelling very fast notapeopleperson
  • Score: 107

5:28pm Sat 19 Apr 14

RM says...

Broken hips can indeed be a problem for the elderly. Hope he makes a quick recovery & that the cyclist is identified. Obviously a 'real man'getting physical with an OAP - not!
Broken hips can indeed be a problem for the elderly. Hope he makes a quick recovery & that the cyclist is identified. Obviously a 'real man'getting physical with an OAP - not! RM
  • Score: 107

5:34pm Sat 19 Apr 14

chrisii1991 says...

Disgusting. its illegal to cycle on pavements how many times do these morons have to be told!!! and attacking the man is an even worse disgrace
Disgusting. its illegal to cycle on pavements how many times do these morons have to be told!!! and attacking the man is an even worse disgrace chrisii1991
  • Score: 114

5:45pm Sat 19 Apr 14

alasdair1967 says...

To the pro cyclist lobby try defending this incident ,I hope the elderly gentleman makes a good recovery I know how much time this will take for him to get better as my mother suffered a broken hip ,not nice at all for the gentleman especially given the circumstances !
To the pro cyclist lobby try defending this incident ,I hope the elderly gentleman makes a good recovery I know how much time this will take for him to get better as my mother suffered a broken hip ,not nice at all for the gentleman especially given the circumstances ! alasdair1967
  • Score: 36

5:45pm Sat 19 Apr 14

Yankee1 says...

This is a time when all of those CCTV cameras are needed.

It takes time, but wade through all the footage, and find shots of the offender.

Sorry. "Alleged Offender'.

Post them; we will ID him. That is how they caught the Boston Marathon bombers.

The key is in the hands of the Council and the Police. Get a photo.
This is a time when all of those CCTV cameras are needed. It takes time, but wade through all the footage, and find shots of the offender. Sorry. "Alleged Offender'. Post them; we will ID him. That is how they caught the Boston Marathon bombers. The key is in the hands of the Council and the Police. Get a photo. Yankee1
  • Score: 86

5:47pm Sat 19 Apr 14

Lucky Rich says...

Poor old bloke ,still got the spirit that made Britain great, unlike the person on the bike ......ive had to stop my elderly mum standing up for herself like that ,told her she wont bounce like she used to & the youngsters wont give a **** any way ...........
Poor old bloke ,still got the spirit that made Britain great, unlike the person on the bike ......ive had to stop my elderly mum standing up for herself like that ,told her she wont bounce like she used to & the youngsters wont give a **** any way ........... Lucky Rich
  • Score: 63

5:47pm Sat 19 Apr 14

Yankee1 says...

alasdair1967 wrote:
To the pro cyclist lobby try defending this incident ,I hope the elderly gentleman makes a good recovery I know how much time this will take for him to get better as my mother suffered a broken hip ,not nice at all for the gentleman especially given the circumstances !
As a 'pro cyclist' please be assured that real cyclists deplore actions such as this. I hope he gets nailed.
[quote][p][bold]alasdair1967[/bold] wrote: To the pro cyclist lobby try defending this incident ,I hope the elderly gentleman makes a good recovery I know how much time this will take for him to get better as my mother suffered a broken hip ,not nice at all for the gentleman especially given the circumstances ![/p][/quote]As a 'pro cyclist' please be assured that real cyclists deplore actions such as this. I hope he gets nailed. Yankee1
  • Score: 136

6:00pm Sat 19 Apr 14

pete woodley says...

Had it done twice,nobody really cares,except one young lad, who on the first incident came to my aid and waded in.
Had it done twice,nobody really cares,except one young lad, who on the first incident came to my aid and waded in. pete woodley
  • Score: 19

6:02pm Sat 19 Apr 14

twynham says...

What mentality thinks the pro cyclist lobby would try to defending this incident?
Would the "pro car lobby" defend the actions of the thousands of car drivers who maliciously cause injury or death each year?
What mentality thinks the pro cyclist lobby would try to defending this incident? Would the "pro car lobby" defend the actions of the thousands of car drivers who maliciously cause injury or death each year? twynham
  • Score: -23

6:17pm Sat 19 Apr 14

Tracknut says...

They're not cyclists if they're on the pavement but clearly a moron on a bike. Hope the gent heals up quickly and can put this hiring act behind him. Some people have no shame.
They're not cyclists if they're on the pavement but clearly a moron on a bike. Hope the gent heals up quickly and can put this hiring act behind him. Some people have no shame. Tracknut
  • Score: 64

6:22pm Sat 19 Apr 14

Theo63 says...

Yankee1 wrote:
alasdair1967 wrote:
To the pro cyclist lobby try defending this incident ,I hope the elderly gentleman makes a good recovery I know how much time this will take for him to get better as my mother suffered a broken hip ,not nice at all for the gentleman especially given the circumstances !
As a 'pro cyclist' please be assured that real cyclists deplore actions such as this. I hope he gets nailed.
Well said Yankee 1!
[quote][p][bold]Yankee1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alasdair1967[/bold] wrote: To the pro cyclist lobby try defending this incident ,I hope the elderly gentleman makes a good recovery I know how much time this will take for him to get better as my mother suffered a broken hip ,not nice at all for the gentleman especially given the circumstances ![/p][/quote]As a 'pro cyclist' please be assured that real cyclists deplore actions such as this. I hope he gets nailed.[/p][/quote]Well said Yankee 1! Theo63
  • Score: 34

6:24pm Sat 19 Apr 14

Mike_French says...

I was hit myself - a lot younger than the gentleman involved here - a few yards away in front of the chip shop.
Yes it was on the pavement, yes it hurt and yes it took a while for the pain to go........ had a recovering shattered wrist at the time.....
My witnesses? A PCSO and a serving constable, both saw the incident but both chose to ignore it and the quote was: "We are on our lunch" -
Hope you enjoyed your chips that day, a TARDIS?, makes hell of a difference that does.............
I was hit myself - a lot younger than the gentleman involved here - a few yards away in front of the chip shop. Yes it was on the pavement, yes it hurt and yes it took a while for the pain to go........ had a recovering shattered wrist at the time..... My witnesses? A PCSO and a serving constable, both saw the incident but both chose to ignore it and the quote was: "We are on our lunch" - Hope you enjoyed your chips that day, a TARDIS?, makes hell of a difference that does............. Mike_French
  • Score: 44

6:26pm Sat 19 Apr 14

agp1337 says...

Isn't there a case for anyone cycling on the pavement receiving a fixed penalty, perhaps £50, as we would do for illegal parking? It seems that this offence (and it is an offence) is just ignored, unlike illegal parking. What about parking attendants having these powers as well? Only issue is with young children. I wouldn't be happy with an unescorted 10-year-old being on the road.
Isn't there a case for anyone cycling on the pavement receiving a fixed penalty, perhaps £50, as we would do for illegal parking? It seems that this offence (and it is an offence) is just ignored, unlike illegal parking. What about parking attendants having these powers as well? Only issue is with young children. I wouldn't be happy with an unescorted 10-year-old being on the road. agp1337
  • Score: 22

6:27pm Sat 19 Apr 14

saynomore says...

How about a "No Excuses " applied to pavement cyclists as applied to motorists.Perhaps the police will stop turning a blind eye.
How about a "No Excuses " applied to pavement cyclists as applied to motorists.Perhaps the police will stop turning a blind eye. saynomore
  • Score: 39

6:30pm Sat 19 Apr 14

BmthNewshound says...

I've been verbally abused by cyclists when refusing to make way for them on the pavement. Its all well and good spending £'000's creating cycle lanes to protect cyclists from other road users but what about spending some of that money on enforcing the highway code and protecting pedestrians from irresponsible and often aggressive cyclists ?
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I wish the elderly gentleman a speedy recovery and hope that the offenders are caught and punished.
I've been verbally abused by cyclists when refusing to make way for them on the pavement. Its all well and good spending £'000's creating cycle lanes to protect cyclists from other road users but what about spending some of that money on enforcing the highway code and protecting pedestrians from irresponsible and often aggressive cyclists ? . I wish the elderly gentleman a speedy recovery and hope that the offenders are caught and punished. BmthNewshound
  • Score: 45

6:35pm Sat 19 Apr 14

cromwell9 says...

Nothing will be done until UKIP takes control .Then watch out,
Nothing will be done until UKIP takes control .Then watch out, cromwell9
  • Score: 15

6:38pm Sat 19 Apr 14

BIGTONE says...

Yankee1 says...
This is a time when all of those CCTV cameras are needed.......

Most of them probably don't work.
The Council or Police never tell the public they are fully operational so from the silence we can assume they don't.
Yankee1 says... This is a time when all of those CCTV cameras are needed....... Most of them probably don't work. The Council or Police never tell the public they are fully operational so from the silence we can assume they don't. BIGTONE
  • Score: 4

6:46pm Sat 19 Apr 14

uvox44 says...

There are yobs who cycle, there are yobs who drive and yobs who walk- to use the term cyclist is fine if it just means someone who was on a bicycle at the time , but if it is trying to imply that all people who enjoy cycling are the same then it is misleading and pointless- and I cycle , both for pleasure and to get to work, I work as a bus driver and I also drive a car, I do all these things responsibly and safely- my personality and attitude doesn't change according to which mode of transport I happen to be in charge of.
There are yobs who cycle, there are yobs who drive and yobs who walk- to use the term cyclist is fine if it just means someone who was on a bicycle at the time , but if it is trying to imply that all people who enjoy cycling are the same then it is misleading and pointless- and I cycle , both for pleasure and to get to work, I work as a bus driver and I also drive a car, I do all these things responsibly and safely- my personality and attitude doesn't change according to which mode of transport I happen to be in charge of. uvox44
  • Score: 47

6:47pm Sat 19 Apr 14

Carolyn43 says...

That's dreadful. Seems pushing a pensioner is considered good sport by some youngsters. My 80 odd year-old neighbour was pushed over by a teenager on a cycle and hit her head on the pavement. Fortunately a good Samaritan realised she wasn't conscious and dialed 999.
......
Happily she only spent a night in hospital and recovered fully, but the perpetrator was never caught.
....
Breaking hips can be very serious for us oldies. Hope the victim recovers fully and that the moron who pushed him is caught, charged with anything they can find that's appropriate and is suitably punished - not much hope of that with some of the magistrates.
That's dreadful. Seems pushing a pensioner is considered good sport by some youngsters. My 80 odd year-old neighbour was pushed over by a teenager on a cycle and hit her head on the pavement. Fortunately a good Samaritan realised she wasn't conscious and dialed 999. ...... Happily she only spent a night in hospital and recovered fully, but the perpetrator was never caught. .... Breaking hips can be very serious for us oldies. Hope the victim recovers fully and that the moron who pushed him is caught, charged with anything they can find that's appropriate and is suitably punished - not much hope of that with some of the magistrates. Carolyn43
  • Score: 31

7:02pm Sat 19 Apr 14

politicaltrainspotter says...

Public opinion has now changed.Once we accepted it be grudgingly and now we don't.

So can we now see some action please ?
Public opinion has now changed.Once we accepted it be grudgingly and now we don't. So can we now see some action please ? politicaltrainspotter
  • Score: 12

7:04pm Sat 19 Apr 14

Townee says...

If caught this yob should be charged with GBH minimum.
If caught this yob should be charged with GBH minimum. Townee
  • Score: 29

7:05pm Sat 19 Apr 14

Huey says...

agp1337 wrote:
Isn't there a case for anyone cycling on the pavement receiving a fixed penalty, perhaps £50, as we would do for illegal parking? It seems that this offence (and it is an offence) is just ignored, unlike illegal parking. What about parking attendants having these powers as well? Only issue is with young children. I wouldn't be happy with an unescorted 10-year-old being on the road.
They should do the following:
Get pcso's to issue an on the spot £50 fine for pavement cyclists.
Not a one week crackdown, but an ongoing policy.
No payment results in seized bike.
I am at varying times a cyclist, pedestrian, and motorist, but cycling on the pavement is not acceptable.
I cycled to school at the age of 10 back in the 80s, and went to cycling proficiency classes, I bet they still run them.
[quote][p][bold]agp1337[/bold] wrote: Isn't there a case for anyone cycling on the pavement receiving a fixed penalty, perhaps £50, as we would do for illegal parking? It seems that this offence (and it is an offence) is just ignored, unlike illegal parking. What about parking attendants having these powers as well? Only issue is with young children. I wouldn't be happy with an unescorted 10-year-old being on the road.[/p][/quote]They should do the following: Get pcso's to issue an on the spot £50 fine for pavement cyclists. Not a one week crackdown, but an ongoing policy. No payment results in seized bike. I am at varying times a cyclist, pedestrian, and motorist, but cycling on the pavement is not acceptable. I cycled to school at the age of 10 back in the 80s, and went to cycling proficiency classes, I bet they still run them. Huey
  • Score: 17

7:09pm Sat 19 Apr 14

arthur1948 says...

Pretty hard is a waste of money and space.....what is needed is effective policing..... I've seen cyclist ride past police officers in the precinct...all they seem to do pose about with their new toy...
Pretty hard is a waste of money and space.....what is needed is effective policing..... I've seen cyclist ride past police officers in the precinct...all they seem to do pose about with their new toy... arthur1948
  • Score: 12

7:12pm Sat 19 Apr 14

arthur1948 says...

Pretty tardis is a waste of money and space.....what is needed is effective policing..... I've seen cyclist ride past police officers in the precinct...all they seem to do pose about with their new toy...
Pretty tardis is a waste of money and space.....what is needed is effective policing..... I've seen cyclist ride past police officers in the precinct...all they seem to do pose about with their new toy... arthur1948
  • Score: -5

8:04pm Sat 19 Apr 14

JackJohnson says...

uvox44 wrote:
There are yobs who cycle, there are yobs who drive and yobs who walk- to use the term cyclist is fine if it just means someone who was on a bicycle at the time , but if it is trying to imply that all people who enjoy cycling are the same then it is misleading and pointless- and I cycle , both for pleasure and to get to work, I work as a bus driver and I also drive a car, I do all these things responsibly and safely- my personality and attitude doesn't change according to which mode of transport I happen to be in charge of.
It's easy to be a yob on a bike. Anonymity and a quick getaway. It's long gone time for a clampdown on bad cycling, with the threat of a compulsory registration and numbering system if they don't start behaving.
[quote][p][bold]uvox44[/bold] wrote: There are yobs who cycle, there are yobs who drive and yobs who walk- to use the term cyclist is fine if it just means someone who was on a bicycle at the time , but if it is trying to imply that all people who enjoy cycling are the same then it is misleading and pointless- and I cycle , both for pleasure and to get to work, I work as a bus driver and I also drive a car, I do all these things responsibly and safely- my personality and attitude doesn't change according to which mode of transport I happen to be in charge of.[/p][/quote]It's easy to be a yob on a bike. Anonymity and a quick getaway. It's long gone time for a clampdown on bad cycling, with the threat of a compulsory registration and numbering system if they don't start behaving. JackJohnson
  • Score: -6

8:12pm Sat 19 Apr 14

agp1337 says...

Huey wrote:
agp1337 wrote:
Isn't there a case for anyone cycling on the pavement receiving a fixed penalty, perhaps £50, as we would do for illegal parking? It seems that this offence (and it is an offence) is just ignored, unlike illegal parking. What about parking attendants having these powers as well? Only issue is with young children. I wouldn't be happy with an unescorted 10-year-old being on the road.
They should do the following:
Get pcso's to issue an on the spot £50 fine for pavement cyclists.
Not a one week crackdown, but an ongoing policy.
No payment results in seized bike.
I am at varying times a cyclist, pedestrian, and motorist, but cycling on the pavement is not acceptable.
I cycled to school at the age of 10 back in the 80s, and went to cycling proficiency classes, I bet they still run them.
Well said. If it's just ignored it will continue. Regarding my original comment about ten year olds, I take your point. However, I stand by it - we are talking about the difference between roughly 30 years ago and now. A lot has changed and the roads are much more dangerous.
[quote][p][bold]Huey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]agp1337[/bold] wrote: Isn't there a case for anyone cycling on the pavement receiving a fixed penalty, perhaps £50, as we would do for illegal parking? It seems that this offence (and it is an offence) is just ignored, unlike illegal parking. What about parking attendants having these powers as well? Only issue is with young children. I wouldn't be happy with an unescorted 10-year-old being on the road.[/p][/quote]They should do the following: Get pcso's to issue an on the spot £50 fine for pavement cyclists. Not a one week crackdown, but an ongoing policy. No payment results in seized bike. I am at varying times a cyclist, pedestrian, and motorist, but cycling on the pavement is not acceptable. I cycled to school at the age of 10 back in the 80s, and went to cycling proficiency classes, I bet they still run them.[/p][/quote]Well said. If it's just ignored it will continue. Regarding my original comment about ten year olds, I take your point. However, I stand by it - we are talking about the difference between roughly 30 years ago and now. A lot has changed and the roads are much more dangerous. agp1337
  • Score: -3

8:29pm Sat 19 Apr 14

charlie2004 says...

Huey wrote:
Hmmm yet again. Maybe instead of building the tardis cops could actually police our pavements a bit. Not as newsworthy but a lot more useful.
Hope the old gent pulls through ok.
Best wishes to the injured man. Took the kids along to look at the police box today and the two females, one cop and one pretend cop couldn't be bothered to answer or even look up when the kids spoke to them, just carried on nattering with each other. Very good public relations....Not.
[quote][p][bold]Huey[/bold] wrote: Hmmm yet again. Maybe instead of building the tardis cops could actually police our pavements a bit. Not as newsworthy but a lot more useful. Hope the old gent pulls through ok.[/p][/quote]Best wishes to the injured man. Took the kids along to look at the police box today and the two females, one cop and one pretend cop couldn't be bothered to answer or even look up when the kids spoke to them, just carried on nattering with each other. Very good public relations....Not. charlie2004
  • Score: 31

8:42pm Sat 19 Apr 14

Boscombe Warrior says...

What is the problem with these idiotic people on pushbikes? They ride on pavements, ride at people (been nearly knocked over twice in the last week), and majority of the time on the phone! They also ride through the middle of Boscombe where there are NO CYCLING signs which are totally ignored! And what do the council or police do? NOTHING! Seems we pay tax for nothing round here!
What is the problem with these idiotic people on pushbikes? They ride on pavements, ride at people (been nearly knocked over twice in the last week), and majority of the time on the phone! They also ride through the middle of Boscombe where there are NO CYCLING signs which are totally ignored! And what do the council or police do? NOTHING! Seems we pay tax for nothing round here! Boscombe Warrior
  • Score: 27

8:42pm Sat 19 Apr 14

Hobad1 says...

Tracknut wrote:
They're not cyclists if they're on the pavement but clearly a moron on a bike. Hope the gent heals up quickly and can put this hiring act behind him. Some people have no shame.
So what are they if they are cycling on the pavement ? Pavementists ?! I didn't realise that being a cyclist meant you had to be cycling along a road. I must be dumb.
[quote][p][bold]Tracknut[/bold] wrote: They're not cyclists if they're on the pavement but clearly a moron on a bike. Hope the gent heals up quickly and can put this hiring act behind him. Some people have no shame.[/p][/quote]So what are they if they are cycling on the pavement ? Pavementists ?! I didn't realise that being a cyclist meant you had to be cycling along a road. I must be dumb. Hobad1
  • Score: -23

8:46pm Sat 19 Apr 14

FNS-man says...

Huey wrote:
agp1337 wrote:
Isn't there a case for anyone cycling on the pavement receiving a fixed penalty, perhaps £50, as we would do for illegal parking? It seems that this offence (and it is an offence) is just ignored, unlike illegal parking. What about parking attendants having these powers as well? Only issue is with young children. I wouldn't be happy with an unescorted 10-year-old being on the road.
They should do the following:
Get pcso's to issue an on the spot £50 fine for pavement cyclists.
Not a one week crackdown, but an ongoing policy.
No payment results in seized bike.
I am at varying times a cyclist, pedestrian, and motorist, but cycling on the pavement is not acceptable.
I cycled to school at the age of 10 back in the 80s, and went to cycling proficiency classes, I bet they still run them.
There are two things here that stupid people are conflating.

One is riding on the pavement, the on-the-spot penalty for which the government has said should be applied with discretion. Anyone who says it is pleasant and safe to be cycling down Christchurch Road is a moron. The cycling on the pavement is a massive red herring, and not worth discussing.

The assault on the pensioner is terrible. If true, this crime deserves strong punishment.

Huey, were you demanding more speed cameras and double yellow lines after the drive-by shooting reported the other day?
[quote][p][bold]Huey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]agp1337[/bold] wrote: Isn't there a case for anyone cycling on the pavement receiving a fixed penalty, perhaps £50, as we would do for illegal parking? It seems that this offence (and it is an offence) is just ignored, unlike illegal parking. What about parking attendants having these powers as well? Only issue is with young children. I wouldn't be happy with an unescorted 10-year-old being on the road.[/p][/quote]They should do the following: Get pcso's to issue an on the spot £50 fine for pavement cyclists. Not a one week crackdown, but an ongoing policy. No payment results in seized bike. I am at varying times a cyclist, pedestrian, and motorist, but cycling on the pavement is not acceptable. I cycled to school at the age of 10 back in the 80s, and went to cycling proficiency classes, I bet they still run them.[/p][/quote]There are two things here that stupid people are conflating. One is riding on the pavement, the on-the-spot penalty for which the government has said should be applied with discretion. Anyone who says it is pleasant and safe to be cycling down Christchurch Road is a moron. The cycling on the pavement is a massive red herring, and not worth discussing. The assault on the pensioner is terrible. If true, this crime deserves strong punishment. Huey, were you demanding more speed cameras and double yellow lines after the drive-by shooting reported the other day? FNS-man
  • Score: -3

8:58pm Sat 19 Apr 14

carrrob says...

Find the tw@t and lock him up !
Find the tw@t and lock him up ! carrrob
  • Score: 25

9:02pm Sat 19 Apr 14

leotuttle says...

This has got bugger all to do with a cyclist and all to do with thug who rides a bike. Hope the elderly gentleman makes a swift recovery and the thug is caught.
This has got bugger all to do with a cyclist and all to do with thug who rides a bike. Hope the elderly gentleman makes a swift recovery and the thug is caught. leotuttle
  • Score: 54

10:09pm Sat 19 Apr 14

hooplaa says...

Mike_French wrote:
I was hit myself - a lot younger than the gentleman involved here - a few yards away in front of the chip shop.
Yes it was on the pavement, yes it hurt and yes it took a while for the pain to go........ had a recovering shattered wrist at the time.....
My witnesses? A PCSO and a serving constable, both saw the incident but both chose to ignore it and the quote was: "We are on our lunch" -
Hope you enjoyed your chips that day, a TARDIS?, makes hell of a difference that does.............
What a load of made up rubbish
[quote][p][bold]Mike_French[/bold] wrote: I was hit myself - a lot younger than the gentleman involved here - a few yards away in front of the chip shop. Yes it was on the pavement, yes it hurt and yes it took a while for the pain to go........ had a recovering shattered wrist at the time..... My witnesses? A PCSO and a serving constable, both saw the incident but both chose to ignore it and the quote was: "We are on our lunch" - Hope you enjoyed your chips that day, a TARDIS?, makes hell of a difference that does.............[/p][/quote]What a load of made up rubbish hooplaa
  • Score: -10

10:23pm Sat 19 Apr 14

Huey says...

FNS-man wrote:
Huey wrote:
agp1337 wrote:
Isn't there a case for anyone cycling on the pavement receiving a fixed penalty, perhaps £50, as we would do for illegal parking? It seems that this offence (and it is an offence) is just ignored, unlike illegal parking. What about parking attendants having these powers as well? Only issue is with young children. I wouldn't be happy with an unescorted 10-year-old being on the road.
They should do the following:
Get pcso's to issue an on the spot £50 fine for pavement cyclists.
Not a one week crackdown, but an ongoing policy.
No payment results in seized bike.
I am at varying times a cyclist, pedestrian, and motorist, but cycling on the pavement is not acceptable.
I cycled to school at the age of 10 back in the 80s, and went to cycling proficiency classes, I bet they still run them.
There are two things here that stupid people are conflating.

One is riding on the pavement, the on-the-spot penalty for which the government has said should be applied with discretion. Anyone who says it is pleasant and safe to be cycling down Christchurch Road is a moron. The cycling on the pavement is a massive red herring, and not worth discussing.

The assault on the pensioner is terrible. If true, this crime deserves strong punishment.

Huey, were you demanding more speed cameras and double yellow lines after the drive-by shooting reported the other day?
No I didn't comment on that story
[quote][p][bold]FNS-man[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Huey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]agp1337[/bold] wrote: Isn't there a case for anyone cycling on the pavement receiving a fixed penalty, perhaps £50, as we would do for illegal parking? It seems that this offence (and it is an offence) is just ignored, unlike illegal parking. What about parking attendants having these powers as well? Only issue is with young children. I wouldn't be happy with an unescorted 10-year-old being on the road.[/p][/quote]They should do the following: Get pcso's to issue an on the spot £50 fine for pavement cyclists. Not a one week crackdown, but an ongoing policy. No payment results in seized bike. I am at varying times a cyclist, pedestrian, and motorist, but cycling on the pavement is not acceptable. I cycled to school at the age of 10 back in the 80s, and went to cycling proficiency classes, I bet they still run them.[/p][/quote]There are two things here that stupid people are conflating. One is riding on the pavement, the on-the-spot penalty for which the government has said should be applied with discretion. Anyone who says it is pleasant and safe to be cycling down Christchurch Road is a moron. The cycling on the pavement is a massive red herring, and not worth discussing. The assault on the pensioner is terrible. If true, this crime deserves strong punishment. Huey, were you demanding more speed cameras and double yellow lines after the drive-by shooting reported the other day?[/p][/quote]No I didn't comment on that story Huey
  • Score: 0

11:31pm Sat 19 Apr 14

ragj195 says...

alasdair1967 wrote:
To the pro cyclist lobby try defending this incident ,I hope the elderly gentleman makes a good recovery I know how much time this will take for him to get better as my mother suffered a broken hip ,not nice at all for the gentleman especially given the circumstances !
Yeah, like the pro-cyclist lobby would defend a few smack heads riding stolen bikes on the pavements of Boscombe at 9am.
[quote][p][bold]alasdair1967[/bold] wrote: To the pro cyclist lobby try defending this incident ,I hope the elderly gentleman makes a good recovery I know how much time this will take for him to get better as my mother suffered a broken hip ,not nice at all for the gentleman especially given the circumstances ![/p][/quote]Yeah, like the pro-cyclist lobby would defend a few smack heads riding stolen bikes on the pavements of Boscombe at 9am. ragj195
  • Score: 12

12:09am Sun 20 Apr 14

Sir Beachy Head says...

Boscombe AGAIN

It's always blooming Boscombe. It's high time they put a big electric fence around it.
Boscombe AGAIN It's always blooming Boscombe. It's high time they put a big electric fence around it. Sir Beachy Head
  • Score: 17

12:29am Sun 20 Apr 14

s-pb2 says...

ragj195 wrote:
alasdair1967 wrote:
To the pro cyclist lobby try defending this incident ,I hope the elderly gentleman makes a good recovery I know how much time this will take for him to get better as my mother suffered a broken hip ,not nice at all for the gentleman especially given the circumstances !
Yeah, like the pro-cyclist lobby would defend a few smack heads riding stolen bikes on the pavements of Boscombe at 9am.
Your probably closer to the truth than anyone else here. We all know about the drugs trade in Boscombe, and a lot of those involved use bikes, you see some of the well known dealers riding up and down the precinct on their bikes all day.

Although it seems that some people are on here criticising the police because they arent on every street corner 24 hours a day, just in case something happens.
[quote][p][bold]ragj195[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alasdair1967[/bold] wrote: To the pro cyclist lobby try defending this incident ,I hope the elderly gentleman makes a good recovery I know how much time this will take for him to get better as my mother suffered a broken hip ,not nice at all for the gentleman especially given the circumstances ![/p][/quote]Yeah, like the pro-cyclist lobby would defend a few smack heads riding stolen bikes on the pavements of Boscombe at 9am.[/p][/quote]Your probably closer to the truth than anyone else here. We all know about the drugs trade in Boscombe, and a lot of those involved use bikes, you see some of the well known dealers riding up and down the precinct on their bikes all day. Although it seems that some people are on here criticising the police because they arent on every street corner 24 hours a day, just in case something happens. s-pb2
  • Score: 12

12:37am Sun 20 Apr 14

rotcoddam says...

Amazing no letter on here from Mike Chakley explaining how the cyclist was of course entirely blameless for this incident
Amazing no letter on here from Mike Chakley explaining how the cyclist was of course entirely blameless for this incident rotcoddam
  • Score: -3

2:51am Sun 20 Apr 14

breamoreboy says...

saynomore wrote:
How about a "No Excuses " applied to pavement cyclists as applied to motorists.Perhaps the police will stop turning a blind eye.
I've voted you up on that one and I'm a cyclist. Actually at one point a year or two back they had something like this in the Purewell and Stanpit areas of Christchurch, I don't know if similar things have happened elsewhere.
[quote][p][bold]saynomore[/bold] wrote: How about a "No Excuses " applied to pavement cyclists as applied to motorists.Perhaps the police will stop turning a blind eye.[/p][/quote]I've voted you up on that one and I'm a cyclist. Actually at one point a year or two back they had something like this in the Purewell and Stanpit areas of Christchurch, I don't know if similar things have happened elsewhere. breamoreboy
  • Score: 7

8:13am Sun 20 Apr 14

retry69 says...

rotcoddam wrote:
Amazing no letter on here from Mike Chakley explaining how the cyclist was of course entirely blameless for this incident
Not really ,he's probably got more sense than to get involved in a debate that has already degenerated into abusive name calling of other commenters.Its an idiot and bully on two wheels you don't have to look far to see them in abundance on four wheels or even two legs, that is modern life on the roads and pavements,time for some to look further than their front door or computer screen
[quote][p][bold]rotcoddam[/bold] wrote: Amazing no letter on here from Mike Chakley explaining how the cyclist was of course entirely blameless for this incident[/p][/quote]Not really ,he's probably got more sense than to get involved in a debate that has already degenerated into abusive name calling of other commenters.Its an idiot and bully on two wheels you don't have to look far to see them in abundance on four wheels or even two legs, that is modern life on the roads and pavements,time for some to look further than their front door or computer screen retry69
  • Score: 8

9:00am Sun 20 Apr 14

Ralph Horris says...

pete woodley wrote:
Had it done twice,nobody really cares,except one young lad, who on the first incident came to my aid and waded in.
I've had it done three times.........
[quote][p][bold]pete woodley[/bold] wrote: Had it done twice,nobody really cares,except one young lad, who on the first incident came to my aid and waded in.[/p][/quote]I've had it done three times......... Ralph Horris
  • Score: 0

9:17am Sun 20 Apr 14

nickynoodah says...

I wish the old ****** lived near me here at bere
he would be in bed now with a full English breakfast inside his belly and a mug of black Columbian coffee on his side table,
I would know how to treat a lonely old man .
.
I wish the old ****** lived near me here at bere he would be in bed now with a full English breakfast inside his belly and a mug of black Columbian coffee on his side table, I would know how to treat a lonely old man . . nickynoodah
  • Score: -7

9:41am Sun 20 Apr 14

bobsworthforever says...

Ive no idea how you can stop this sort of behaviour ive come across pavement cyclists if your getting on a bit don't challenge them cant believe how aggressive they are lets hope they meet their match someday soon
Ive no idea how you can stop this sort of behaviour ive come across pavement cyclists if your getting on a bit don't challenge them cant believe how aggressive they are lets hope they meet their match someday soon bobsworthforever
  • Score: 4

9:45am Sun 20 Apr 14

bmthgirl64 says...

I have been nearly hit by cyclists many times in the Boscombe precinct.. that's the place where the bye laws state 'No Cycling'. This isn't enforced even when there is a Police presence. The last time I was coming out of Boots and had to jump back to avoid being knocked over.. the cyclist screamed at me to 'get out of the f...... way, you stupid cow!' Oh well... that's the charm of Boscombe 'village'.
I have been nearly hit by cyclists many times in the Boscombe precinct.. that's the place where the bye laws state 'No Cycling'. This isn't enforced even when there is a Police presence. The last time I was coming out of Boots and had to jump back to avoid being knocked over.. the cyclist screamed at me to 'get out of the f...... way, you stupid cow!' Oh well... that's the charm of Boscombe 'village'. bmthgirl64
  • Score: 14

9:47am Sun 20 Apr 14

Dorset Logic says...

I hope the gentleman recover's fully.
I wish people had the ability to distinguish between a young dumb kid on a bicycle and someone who is responsible and perhaps a little older. Why pre-judge a group. The oh its human nature argument is reserved for people who can't rise above human nature and use thought.


Get well sir, I hope the lad gets the old what goes around, comes around at some time. I suspect with his attitude he will.
Have some of you who have lived a good few years, still not learnt the life lesson.... Judge people one at a time.
I hope the gentleman recover's fully. I wish people had the ability to distinguish between a young dumb kid on a bicycle and someone who is responsible and perhaps a little older. Why pre-judge a group. The oh its human nature argument is reserved for people who can't rise above human nature and use thought. Get well sir, I hope the lad gets the old what goes around, comes around at some time. I suspect with his attitude he will. Have some of you who have lived a good few years, still not learnt the life lesson.... Judge people one at a time. Dorset Logic
  • Score: 10

10:17am Sun 20 Apr 14

Is it me says...

How many more people have to get killed, assaulted and hurt before the Dorset Police get out of there cars and apply the law to all, including cyclists. If I was this lazy and incompetent I would be sacked.
How many more people have to get killed, assaulted and hurt before the Dorset Police get out of there cars and apply the law to all, including cyclists. If I was this lazy and incompetent I would be sacked. Is it me
  • Score: 5

10:20am Sun 20 Apr 14

MCAME1989 says...

This makes me so angry!
So many times my children hav nearly been mowed down by idiots on their bikes!

In London we hav CCTV and officers pratroling the streets giving fines to all the ride their bikes on pavements!
This makes me so angry! So many times my children hav nearly been mowed down by idiots on their bikes! In London we hav CCTV and officers pratroling the streets giving fines to all the ride their bikes on pavements! MCAME1989
  • Score: 4

10:21am Sun 20 Apr 14

Bh_media says...

As a cyclist myself I find this disgusting. These are the kinds do morons that give cyclists a bad name! He shouldn't have been on the pavement, end of. Hope the gentleman makes a speedy recovery.
As a cyclist myself I find this disgusting. These are the kinds do morons that give cyclists a bad name! He shouldn't have been on the pavement, end of. Hope the gentleman makes a speedy recovery. Bh_media
  • Score: 20

10:21am Sun 20 Apr 14

anotherfatslob says...

Twosides to every story.

He may not have been "attacked".

Maybe he blocked the path,the cyclist tried to push past,he fell over.

Entirely possible.
Twosides to every story. He may not have been "attacked". Maybe he blocked the path,the cyclist tried to push past,he fell over. Entirely possible. anotherfatslob
  • Score: -17

10:23am Sun 20 Apr 14

anotherfatslob says...

Beligerent pensioners are a menace behind the wheel.
Beligerent pensioners are a menace behind the wheel. anotherfatslob
  • Score: -16

10:25am Sun 20 Apr 14

Telscombe Cliffy says...

arthur1948 wrote:
Pretty hard is a waste of money and space.....what is needed is effective policing..... I've seen cyclist ride past police officers in the precinct...all they seem to do pose about with their new toy...
Quite right, the tardis is fixed in one place. The problems with all the bad behaviour along Christhurch Rd stretch from Lynden Hall lights to Pokesdown, then down to Seabourne rd to Southbourne Grove, where it peters out.
[quote][p][bold]arthur1948[/bold] wrote: Pretty hard is a waste of money and space.....what is needed is effective policing..... I've seen cyclist ride past police officers in the precinct...all they seem to do pose about with their new toy...[/p][/quote]Quite right, the tardis is fixed in one place. The problems with all the bad behaviour along Christhurch Rd stretch from Lynden Hall lights to Pokesdown, then down to Seabourne rd to Southbourne Grove, where it peters out. Telscombe Cliffy
  • Score: 4

10:30am Sun 20 Apr 14

nickynoodah says...

I wouldn't knowingly walk down the same street as stinky nobath
let alone knock him into the gutter ,he hates me you know,
you know.
I wouldn't knowingly walk down the same street as stinky nobath let alone knock him into the gutter ,he hates me you know, you know. nickynoodah
  • Score: -8

10:54am Sun 20 Apr 14

SFF says...

My friend was hit by a car when she was on her bike, the car was completely in the wrong. The police told her that she should be riding on the pavement. No word of a lie. This poor old man is told that cycling is on pavements is illegal, while the police think you deserve to get hit by a car if you are stupid enough to cycle on the road.

This problem is not so much cyclists but yobs. I was in Boscombe Macdonalds just after a large group of youths had thrown a very confused man with learning difficulties up against a wall because he had got in their way. The community has been telling the council for years that there is a problem with disenfranchised youth in the area and they have chosen to ignore us. Who suffers? Us normal residents again. Thanks Council
My friend was hit by a car when she was on her bike, the car was completely in the wrong. The police told her that she should be riding on the pavement. No word of a lie. This poor old man is told that cycling is on pavements is illegal, while the police think you deserve to get hit by a car if you are stupid enough to cycle on the road. This problem is not so much cyclists but yobs. I was in Boscombe Macdonalds just after a large group of youths had thrown a very confused man with learning difficulties up against a wall because he had got in their way. The community has been telling the council for years that there is a problem with disenfranchised youth in the area and they have chosen to ignore us. Who suffers? Us normal residents again. Thanks Council SFF
  • Score: 5

10:58am Sun 20 Apr 14

Boscombe Warrior says...

From the Highway Code: 64
You MUST NOT cycle on a pavement.
Laws HA 1835 sect 72 & R(S)A 1984, sect 129

https://www.gov.uk/r
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From the Highway Code: 64 You MUST NOT cycle on a pavement. Laws HA 1835 sect 72 & R(S)A 1984, sect 129 https://www.gov.uk/r ules-for-cyclists-59 -to-82/overview-59-t o-71 Boscombe Warrior
  • Score: 6

10:59am Sun 20 Apr 14

pete woodley says...

SFF wrote:
My friend was hit by a car when she was on her bike, the car was completely in the wrong. The police told her that she should be riding on the pavement. No word of a lie. This poor old man is told that cycling is on pavements is illegal, while the police think you deserve to get hit by a car if you are stupid enough to cycle on the road.

This problem is not so much cyclists but yobs. I was in Boscombe Macdonalds just after a large group of youths had thrown a very confused man with learning difficulties up against a wall because he had got in their way. The community has been telling the council for years that there is a problem with disenfranchised youth in the area and they have chosen to ignore us. Who suffers? Us normal residents again. Thanks Council
Boscombe is getting to be a no-go area,especially for the elderly and disabled,PCSO'S DO NOTHING ABOUT THE CONSTANT CYCLING ON PAVEMENTS.
[quote][p][bold]SFF[/bold] wrote: My friend was hit by a car when she was on her bike, the car was completely in the wrong. The police told her that she should be riding on the pavement. No word of a lie. This poor old man is told that cycling is on pavements is illegal, while the police think you deserve to get hit by a car if you are stupid enough to cycle on the road. This problem is not so much cyclists but yobs. I was in Boscombe Macdonalds just after a large group of youths had thrown a very confused man with learning difficulties up against a wall because he had got in their way. The community has been telling the council for years that there is a problem with disenfranchised youth in the area and they have chosen to ignore us. Who suffers? Us normal residents again. Thanks Council[/p][/quote]Boscombe is getting to be a no-go area,especially for the elderly and disabled,PCSO'S DO NOTHING ABOUT THE CONSTANT CYCLING ON PAVEMENTS. pete woodley
  • Score: 4

11:07am Sun 20 Apr 14

Petelucas says...

Some weeks ago on Avon Causeway near Christchurch about 6 cyclists in cycle helmets and obligatory ridiculous black tights were cycling towards me all abreast and taking up most of the oncoming carriageway. An impatient BMW driver overtook them on a bend and almost caused a head on collision with me. I was still shaken when I got to my destination. God knows how I avoided a serious crash. This really begs the two points. Cyclists have breath taking arrogance with the way most of them use a bicycle and car drivers show breath-taking ignorance by taking huge risks in these situations. Dont forget cyclists USE the roads TAX free.

I really hope they catch this little scroat riding on the PATH and the old man in hospital makes a good recovery
Some weeks ago on Avon Causeway near Christchurch about 6 cyclists in cycle helmets and obligatory ridiculous black tights were cycling towards me all abreast and taking up most of the oncoming carriageway. An impatient BMW driver overtook them on a bend and almost caused a head on collision with me. I was still shaken when I got to my destination. God knows how I avoided a serious crash. This really begs the two points. Cyclists have breath taking arrogance with the way most of them use a bicycle and car drivers show breath-taking ignorance by taking huge risks in these situations. Dont forget cyclists USE the roads TAX free. I really hope they catch this little scroat riding on the PATH and the old man in hospital makes a good recovery Petelucas
  • Score: -4

11:25am Sun 20 Apr 14

Azphreal says...

As a child a VERY long time ago i thought the rule of thumb was the wheel size on the bike ment if the police would allow it on the path (so a child on a childs bike was ok) but sadly its not just 'young thugs' who do this. Two days ago i had to quickly move out of the way as a woman who looked like she was in her 60s with shopping bags on both handles flew past me on the pavement. The police should fine and remove the bike straight away if the fine is not paid on the spot,children if acting in an unsafe manner should also lose the bike until some training has been taken then maybe idiots would think about what they are doing. I hope this moron is found and the book thrown at them.
As a child a VERY long time ago i thought the rule of thumb was the wheel size on the bike ment if the police would allow it on the path (so a child on a childs bike was ok) but sadly its not just 'young thugs' who do this. Two days ago i had to quickly move out of the way as a woman who looked like she was in her 60s with shopping bags on both handles flew past me on the pavement. The police should fine and remove the bike straight away if the fine is not paid on the spot,children if acting in an unsafe manner should also lose the bike until some training has been taken then maybe idiots would think about what they are doing. I hope this moron is found and the book thrown at them. Azphreal
  • Score: 6

11:38am Sun 20 Apr 14

ragj195 says...

Petelucas wrote:
Some weeks ago on Avon Causeway near Christchurch about 6 cyclists in cycle helmets and obligatory ridiculous black tights were cycling towards me all abreast and taking up most of the oncoming carriageway. An impatient BMW driver overtook them on a bend and almost caused a head on collision with me. I was still shaken when I got to my destination. God knows how I avoided a serious crash. This really begs the two points. Cyclists have breath taking arrogance with the way most of them use a bicycle and car drivers show breath-taking ignorance by taking huge risks in these situations. Dont forget cyclists USE the roads TAX free.

I really hope they catch this little scroat riding on the PATH and the old man in hospital makes a good recovery
No they don't use it tax free. A cyclist without a car and a good job will be paying more towards the roads than a car driver on benefits. This is about done yobs in Boscombe but don't let that stop you.
[quote][p][bold]Petelucas[/bold] wrote: Some weeks ago on Avon Causeway near Christchurch about 6 cyclists in cycle helmets and obligatory ridiculous black tights were cycling towards me all abreast and taking up most of the oncoming carriageway. An impatient BMW driver overtook them on a bend and almost caused a head on collision with me. I was still shaken when I got to my destination. God knows how I avoided a serious crash. This really begs the two points. Cyclists have breath taking arrogance with the way most of them use a bicycle and car drivers show breath-taking ignorance by taking huge risks in these situations. Dont forget cyclists USE the roads TAX free. I really hope they catch this little scroat riding on the PATH and the old man in hospital makes a good recovery[/p][/quote]No they don't use it tax free. A cyclist without a car and a good job will be paying more towards the roads than a car driver on benefits. This is about done yobs in Boscombe but don't let that stop you. ragj195
  • Score: 8

11:53am Sun 20 Apr 14

fireflier says...

The low life who did this should be made to go swimming off Mudeford Quay ....with his bike wrapped round his neck!!!

SCUMBAG!
The low life who did this should be made to go swimming off Mudeford Quay ....with his bike wrapped round his neck!!! SCUMBAG! fireflier
  • Score: 11

11:54am Sun 20 Apr 14

Bob49 says...

Sadly nothing will be done - just as with these idiots wjhen riding with no lights.

All we got last winter was some useless 'press release' that two coppers were going to go out on one or two nights and tell those cyclist without lights that they were being 'rather naughty' .... then what, nothing.

And as usual this nonsense over excited the terminally dim who claimed that something was being done. Something that amounted to nothing.

As long as the police continue to ignore nuisance cyclists this kind of thing will continue - and as long as the wiless continue to support their doing nothing they will not change either.
Sadly nothing will be done - just as with these idiots wjhen riding with no lights. All we got last winter was some useless 'press release' that two coppers were going to go out on one or two nights and tell those cyclist without lights that they were being 'rather naughty' .... then what, nothing. And as usual this nonsense over excited the terminally dim who claimed that something was being done. Something that amounted to nothing. As long as the police continue to ignore nuisance cyclists this kind of thing will continue - and as long as the wiless continue to support their doing nothing they will not change either. Bob49
  • Score: 2

12:01pm Sun 20 Apr 14

uvox44 says...

what this story is about is attitude, and aggression, not mode of transport, despite the Echo no doubt trying to stir up car vs cyclist debate (yet again). I use a shared cycle/footpath, pedestrians are generally oblivious to me and often get in the way- I can then react in one of two ways 1. be aggressive and rude 2. slow up and give a wry smile once o can get past. I chose option 2 because it is a. better for them and b. better for me. Most of the problems on the road , whether by cars, cyclists or pedestrians come down to having a bad attitude and this is part of the wider prevailing culture of rush rush everywhere.
what this story is about is attitude, and aggression, not mode of transport, despite the Echo no doubt trying to stir up car vs cyclist debate (yet again). I use a shared cycle/footpath, pedestrians are generally oblivious to me and often get in the way- I can then react in one of two ways 1. be aggressive and rude 2. slow up and give a wry smile once o can get past. I chose option 2 because it is a. better for them and b. better for me. Most of the problems on the road , whether by cars, cyclists or pedestrians come down to having a bad attitude and this is part of the wider prevailing culture of rush rush everywhere. uvox44
  • Score: 10

12:07pm Sun 20 Apr 14

hghandyman says...

Isn't it about time that cyclists should have compulsory registration plates, pay road tax and sit a cycling proficiency test? They should also have to have insurance and an mot. They all seem to want special treatment but don't want to pay for it. Pavements, roads, footpaths, bridleways, woodland walks and canal towpaths all seem to be the domain of the inconsiderate cyclist. Oh, and by the way, I'm a cyclist, motorcyclist, van driver and car driver.
Isn't it about time that cyclists should have compulsory registration plates, pay road tax and sit a cycling proficiency test? They should also have to have insurance and an mot. They all seem to want special treatment but don't want to pay for it. Pavements, roads, footpaths, bridleways, woodland walks and canal towpaths all seem to be the domain of the inconsiderate cyclist. Oh, and by the way, I'm a cyclist, motorcyclist, van driver and car driver. hghandyman
  • Score: -11

12:08pm Sun 20 Apr 14

scrumpyjack says...

Mike_French wrote:
I was hit myself - a lot younger than the gentleman involved here - a few yards away in front of the chip shop.
Yes it was on the pavement, yes it hurt and yes it took a while for the pain to go........ had a recovering shattered wrist at the time.....
My witnesses? A PCSO and a serving constable, both saw the incident but both chose to ignore it and the quote was: "We are on our lunch" -
Hope you enjoyed your chips that day, a TARDIS?, makes hell of a difference that does.............
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[quote][p][bold]Mike_French[/bold] wrote: I was hit myself - a lot younger than the gentleman involved here - a few yards away in front of the chip shop. Yes it was on the pavement, yes it hurt and yes it took a while for the pain to go........ had a recovering shattered wrist at the time..... My witnesses? A PCSO and a serving constable, both saw the incident but both chose to ignore it and the quote was: "We are on our lunch" - Hope you enjoyed your chips that day, a TARDIS?, makes hell of a difference that does.............[/p][/quote]http://img.pandawhal e.com/post-20629-I-D ont-Believe-You-gif- Anchorm-JFIx.gif scrumpyjack
  • Score: 1

12:10pm Sun 20 Apr 14

scrumpyjack says...

hghandyman wrote:
Isn't it about time that cyclists should have compulsory registration plates, pay road tax and sit a cycling proficiency test? They should also have to have insurance and an mot. They all seem to want special treatment but don't want to pay for it. Pavements, roads, footpaths, bridleways, woodland walks and canal towpaths all seem to be the domain of the inconsiderate cyclist. Oh, and by the way, I'm a cyclist, motorcyclist, van driver and car driver.
Stupid is as stupid says.
[quote][p][bold]hghandyman[/bold] wrote: Isn't it about time that cyclists should have compulsory registration plates, pay road tax and sit a cycling proficiency test? They should also have to have insurance and an mot. They all seem to want special treatment but don't want to pay for it. Pavements, roads, footpaths, bridleways, woodland walks and canal towpaths all seem to be the domain of the inconsiderate cyclist. Oh, and by the way, I'm a cyclist, motorcyclist, van driver and car driver.[/p][/quote]Stupid is as stupid says. scrumpyjack
  • Score: 5

12:14pm Sun 20 Apr 14

speedy231278 says...

scrumpyjack wrote:
hghandyman wrote:
Isn't it about time that cyclists should have compulsory registration plates, pay road tax and sit a cycling proficiency test? They should also have to have insurance and an mot. They all seem to want special treatment but don't want to pay for it. Pavements, roads, footpaths, bridleways, woodland walks and canal towpaths all seem to be the domain of the inconsiderate cyclist. Oh, and by the way, I'm a cyclist, motorcyclist, van driver and car driver.
Stupid is as stupid says.
And you are more stupid than most.
[quote][p][bold]scrumpyjack[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hghandyman[/bold] wrote: Isn't it about time that cyclists should have compulsory registration plates, pay road tax and sit a cycling proficiency test? They should also have to have insurance and an mot. They all seem to want special treatment but don't want to pay for it. Pavements, roads, footpaths, bridleways, woodland walks and canal towpaths all seem to be the domain of the inconsiderate cyclist. Oh, and by the way, I'm a cyclist, motorcyclist, van driver and car driver.[/p][/quote]Stupid is as stupid says.[/p][/quote]And you are more stupid than most. speedy231278
  • Score: -6

12:14pm Sun 20 Apr 14

speedy231278 says...

hghandyman wrote:
Isn't it about time that cyclists should have compulsory registration plates, pay road tax and sit a cycling proficiency test? They should also have to have insurance and an mot. They all seem to want special treatment but don't want to pay for it. Pavements, roads, footpaths, bridleways, woodland walks and canal towpaths all seem to be the domain of the inconsiderate cyclist. Oh, and by the way, I'm a cyclist, motorcyclist, van driver and car driver.
That would be daft, they would then be accountable for their actions!
[quote][p][bold]hghandyman[/bold] wrote: Isn't it about time that cyclists should have compulsory registration plates, pay road tax and sit a cycling proficiency test? They should also have to have insurance and an mot. They all seem to want special treatment but don't want to pay for it. Pavements, roads, footpaths, bridleways, woodland walks and canal towpaths all seem to be the domain of the inconsiderate cyclist. Oh, and by the way, I'm a cyclist, motorcyclist, van driver and car driver.[/p][/quote]That would be daft, they would then be accountable for their actions! speedy231278
  • Score: -11

12:21pm Sun 20 Apr 14

Petelucas says...

ragj195 wrote:
Petelucas wrote:
Some weeks ago on Avon Causeway near Christchurch about 6 cyclists in cycle helmets and obligatory ridiculous black tights were cycling towards me all abreast and taking up most of the oncoming carriageway. An impatient BMW driver overtook them on a bend and almost caused a head on collision with me. I was still shaken when I got to my destination. God knows how I avoided a serious crash. This really begs the two points. Cyclists have breath taking arrogance with the way most of them use a bicycle and car drivers show breath-taking ignorance by taking huge risks in these situations. Dont forget cyclists USE the roads TAX free.

I really hope they catch this little scroat riding on the PATH and the old man in hospital makes a good recovery
No they don't use it tax free. A cyclist without a car and a good job will be paying more towards the roads than a car driver on benefits. This is about done yobs in Boscombe but don't let that stop you.
@ragj195 says...

"No they don't use it tax free. A cyclist without a car and a good job will be paying more towards the roads than a car driver on benefits. This is about done yobs in Boscombe but don't let that stop you."

What on earth has this got to do with benefits et al.
You lot always change the goal posts of the debate. I said that I hope they catch the scroat. All I said and I put in it plain English so that your limited intellect will grasp it is that there are faults on both sides. If you had experienced what I did on Avon Causeway you may have a differing view. Cyclists DO NOT pay tax to use the road end of. All road users should respect one another. This is about a 77 y/o man in hospital because of an IGNORANT CYCLIST end of !!!
[quote][p][bold]ragj195[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Petelucas[/bold] wrote: Some weeks ago on Avon Causeway near Christchurch about 6 cyclists in cycle helmets and obligatory ridiculous black tights were cycling towards me all abreast and taking up most of the oncoming carriageway. An impatient BMW driver overtook them on a bend and almost caused a head on collision with me. I was still shaken when I got to my destination. God knows how I avoided a serious crash. This really begs the two points. Cyclists have breath taking arrogance with the way most of them use a bicycle and car drivers show breath-taking ignorance by taking huge risks in these situations. Dont forget cyclists USE the roads TAX free. I really hope they catch this little scroat riding on the PATH and the old man in hospital makes a good recovery[/p][/quote]No they don't use it tax free. A cyclist without a car and a good job will be paying more towards the roads than a car driver on benefits. This is about done yobs in Boscombe but don't let that stop you.[/p][/quote]@ragj195 says... "No they don't use it tax free. A cyclist without a car and a good job will be paying more towards the roads than a car driver on benefits. This is about done yobs in Boscombe but don't let that stop you." What on earth has this got to do with benefits et al. You lot always change the goal posts of the debate. I said that I hope they catch the scroat. All I said and I put in it plain English so that your limited intellect will grasp it is that there are faults on both sides. If you had experienced what I did on Avon Causeway you may have a differing view. Cyclists DO NOT pay tax to use the road end of. All road users should respect one another. This is about a 77 y/o man in hospital because of an IGNORANT CYCLIST end of !!! Petelucas
  • Score: -8

12:28pm Sun 20 Apr 14

scrumpyjack says...

ragj195 wrote:
Petelucas wrote:
Some weeks ago on Avon Causeway near Christchurch about 6 cyclists in cycle helmets and obligatory ridiculous black tights were cycling towards me all abreast and taking up most of the oncoming carriageway. An impatient BMW driver overtook them on a bend and almost caused a head on collision with me. I was still shaken when I got to my destination. God knows how I avoided a serious crash. This really begs the two points. Cyclists have breath taking arrogance with the way most of them use a bicycle and car drivers show breath-taking ignorance by taking huge risks in these situations. Dont forget cyclists USE the roads TAX free.

I really hope they catch this little scroat riding on the PATH and the old man in hospital makes a good recovery
No they don't use it tax free. A cyclist without a car and a good job will be paying more towards the roads than a car driver on benefits. This is about done yobs in Boscombe but don't let that stop you.
You're wasting your time.

Apparantly all cyclists are ignorant a'holes who have never paid a penny in tax in their miserablelives, according to an astounding number of stupid, stupid, bloinkered people on this site.

TIme and again it is explained to them but they choose to completey ignore any thing like 'facts', 'reaility' or the simple truth.

Oh and I drive every day rather than cycle. Wonder how this affects the tax I pay, err that's right not one iota. (well apart from fuel duty)
[quote][p][bold]ragj195[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Petelucas[/bold] wrote: Some weeks ago on Avon Causeway near Christchurch about 6 cyclists in cycle helmets and obligatory ridiculous black tights were cycling towards me all abreast and taking up most of the oncoming carriageway. An impatient BMW driver overtook them on a bend and almost caused a head on collision with me. I was still shaken when I got to my destination. God knows how I avoided a serious crash. This really begs the two points. Cyclists have breath taking arrogance with the way most of them use a bicycle and car drivers show breath-taking ignorance by taking huge risks in these situations. Dont forget cyclists USE the roads TAX free. I really hope they catch this little scroat riding on the PATH and the old man in hospital makes a good recovery[/p][/quote]No they don't use it tax free. A cyclist without a car and a good job will be paying more towards the roads than a car driver on benefits. This is about done yobs in Boscombe but don't let that stop you.[/p][/quote]You're wasting your time. Apparantly all cyclists are ignorant a'holes who have never paid a penny in tax in their miserablelives, according to an astounding number of stupid, stupid, bloinkered people on this site. TIme and again it is explained to them but they choose to completey ignore any thing like 'facts', 'reaility' or the simple truth. Oh and I drive every day rather than cycle. Wonder how this affects the tax I pay, err that's right not one iota. (well apart from fuel duty) scrumpyjack
  • Score: 7

12:38pm Sun 20 Apr 14

scrumpyjack says...

Petelucas wrote:
ragj195 wrote:
Petelucas wrote:
Some weeks ago on Avon Causeway near Christchurch about 6 cyclists in cycle helmets and obligatory ridiculous black tights were cycling towards me all abreast and taking up most of the oncoming carriageway. An impatient BMW driver overtook them on a bend and almost caused a head on collision with me. I was still shaken when I got to my destination. God knows how I avoided a serious crash. This really begs the two points. Cyclists have breath taking arrogance with the way most of them use a bicycle and car drivers show breath-taking ignorance by taking huge risks in these situations. Dont forget cyclists USE the roads TAX free.

I really hope they catch this little scroat riding on the PATH and the old man in hospital makes a good recovery
No they don't use it tax free. A cyclist without a car and a good job will be paying more towards the roads than a car driver on benefits. This is about done yobs in Boscombe but don't let that stop you.
@ragj195 says...

"No they don't use it tax free. A cyclist without a car and a good job will be paying more towards the roads than a car driver on benefits. This is about done yobs in Boscombe but don't let that stop you."

What on earth has this got to do with benefits et al.
You lot always change the goal posts of the debate. I said that I hope they catch the scroat. All I said and I put in it plain English so that your limited intellect will grasp it is that there are faults on both sides. If you had experienced what I did on Avon Causeway you may have a differing view. Cyclists DO NOT pay tax to use the road end of. All road users should respect one another. This is about a 77 y/o man in hospital because of an IGNORANT CYCLIST end of !!!
Here we go.

What tax do you pay to "use the road"?

How are roads actually 'paid for'?

And if this is "about a 77 year old man" why have you dragged all cyclists and "road tax" into it. Ignorant and a hypocrite?

Good day to you.
[quote][p][bold]Petelucas[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ragj195[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Petelucas[/bold] wrote: Some weeks ago on Avon Causeway near Christchurch about 6 cyclists in cycle helmets and obligatory ridiculous black tights were cycling towards me all abreast and taking up most of the oncoming carriageway. An impatient BMW driver overtook them on a bend and almost caused a head on collision with me. I was still shaken when I got to my destination. God knows how I avoided a serious crash. This really begs the two points. Cyclists have breath taking arrogance with the way most of them use a bicycle and car drivers show breath-taking ignorance by taking huge risks in these situations. Dont forget cyclists USE the roads TAX free. I really hope they catch this little scroat riding on the PATH and the old man in hospital makes a good recovery[/p][/quote]No they don't use it tax free. A cyclist without a car and a good job will be paying more towards the roads than a car driver on benefits. This is about done yobs in Boscombe but don't let that stop you.[/p][/quote]@ragj195 says... "No they don't use it tax free. A cyclist without a car and a good job will be paying more towards the roads than a car driver on benefits. This is about done yobs in Boscombe but don't let that stop you." What on earth has this got to do with benefits et al. You lot always change the goal posts of the debate. I said that I hope they catch the scroat. All I said and I put in it plain English so that your limited intellect will grasp it is that there are faults on both sides. If you had experienced what I did on Avon Causeway you may have a differing view. Cyclists DO NOT pay tax to use the road end of. All road users should respect one another. This is about a 77 y/o man in hospital because of an IGNORANT CYCLIST end of !!![/p][/quote]Here we go. What tax do you pay to "use the road"? How are roads actually 'paid for'? And if this is "about a 77 year old man" why have you dragged all cyclists and "road tax" into it. Ignorant and a hypocrite? Good day to you. scrumpyjack
  • Score: 10

12:40pm Sun 20 Apr 14

kinsonjim says...

LOOKS LIKE THE 'SCUM' FROM 1661 HAVE MOVED THEIR ANTICS TO BOSCOMBE. ALL THE BEST OLD PAL. HOPE YOU RECOVER SOON.
LOOKS LIKE THE 'SCUM' FROM 1661 HAVE MOVED THEIR ANTICS TO BOSCOMBE. ALL THE BEST OLD PAL. HOPE YOU RECOVER SOON. kinsonjim
  • Score: 1

12:46pm Sun 20 Apr 14

scrumpyjack says...

speedy231278 wrote:
scrumpyjack wrote:
hghandyman wrote:
Isn't it about time that cyclists should have compulsory registration plates, pay road tax and sit a cycling proficiency test? They should also have to have insurance and an mot. They all seem to want special treatment but don't want to pay for it. Pavements, roads, footpaths, bridleways, woodland walks and canal towpaths all seem to be the domain of the inconsiderate cyclist. Oh, and by the way, I'm a cyclist, motorcyclist, van driver and car driver.
Stupid is as stupid says.
And you are more stupid than most.
From you I will take that a compliment.
[quote][p][bold]speedy231278[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]scrumpyjack[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hghandyman[/bold] wrote: Isn't it about time that cyclists should have compulsory registration plates, pay road tax and sit a cycling proficiency test? They should also have to have insurance and an mot. They all seem to want special treatment but don't want to pay for it. Pavements, roads, footpaths, bridleways, woodland walks and canal towpaths all seem to be the domain of the inconsiderate cyclist. Oh, and by the way, I'm a cyclist, motorcyclist, van driver and car driver.[/p][/quote]Stupid is as stupid says.[/p][/quote]And you are more stupid than most.[/p][/quote]From you I will take that a compliment. scrumpyjack
  • Score: 0

12:46pm Sun 20 Apr 14

winton50 says...

more echo clickbait
more echo clickbait winton50
  • Score: -1

12:49pm Sun 20 Apr 14

scrumpyjack says...

cromwell9 wrote:
Nothing will be done until UKIP takes control .Then watch out,
Really? Oh what wonderous thing will magically happen then?

Perhaps you might to want to go on record so you can say 'I told you so' if it ever happens.
[quote][p][bold]cromwell9[/bold] wrote: Nothing will be done until UKIP takes control .Then watch out,[/p][/quote]Really? Oh what wonderous thing will magically happen then? Perhaps you might to want to go on record so you can say 'I told you so' if it ever happens. scrumpyjack
  • Score: 1

12:54pm Sun 20 Apr 14

DanWeston says...

chrisii1991 wrote:
Disgusting. its illegal to cycle on pavements how many times do these morons have to be told!!! and attacking the man is an even worse disgrace
Probably as many times as motorist have to be told not to park on them?

Despite the desperate attempts to turn this into an "anti cycling" campaign - the reality is that 98% of pedestrian injuries occurring on pavements involve motor vehicles.

However, this is not about cyclists on pavements at all, it is about a group of antisocial yobs who happened to be on bicycles at the time.

I hope the gentleman in question has a speedy t=recovery and is able to gain the confidence to return to his normal life
[quote][p][bold]chrisii1991[/bold] wrote: Disgusting. its illegal to cycle on pavements how many times do these morons have to be told!!! and attacking the man is an even worse disgrace[/p][/quote]Probably as many times as motorist have to be told not to park on them? Despite the desperate attempts to turn this into an "anti cycling" campaign - the reality is that 98% of pedestrian injuries occurring on pavements involve motor vehicles. However, this is not about cyclists on pavements at all, it is about a group of antisocial yobs who happened to be on bicycles at the time. I hope the gentleman in question has a speedy t=recovery and is able to gain the confidence to return to his normal life DanWeston
  • Score: 13

1:07pm Sun 20 Apr 14

scrumpyjack says...

Is it me wrote:
How many more people have to get killed, assaulted and hurt before the Dorset Police get out of there cars and apply the law to all, including cyclists. If I was this lazy and incompetent I would be sacked.
How many more? Apart from one unique case in Banksome Chine when has a cyclist killed anyone walking on the pavement?
[quote][p][bold]Is it me[/bold] wrote: How many more people have to get killed, assaulted and hurt before the Dorset Police get out of there cars and apply the law to all, including cyclists. If I was this lazy and incompetent I would be sacked.[/p][/quote]How many more? Apart from one unique case in Banksome Chine when has a cyclist killed anyone walking on the pavement? scrumpyjack
  • Score: 6

1:23pm Sun 20 Apr 14

DanWeston says...

scrumpyjack wrote:
Is it me wrote:
How many more people have to get killed, assaulted and hurt before the Dorset Police get out of there cars and apply the law to all, including cyclists. If I was this lazy and incompetent I would be sacked.
How many more? Apart from one unique case in Banksome Chine when has a cyclist killed anyone walking on the pavement?
Scrumpyjack has a fair point....

A zero tolerance police clampdown on antisocial behaviour including pavement parking, pavement cycling and ALL the other manifestations would go a long way to improving the area
[quote][p][bold]scrumpyjack[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Is it me[/bold] wrote: How many more people have to get killed, assaulted and hurt before the Dorset Police get out of there cars and apply the law to all, including cyclists. If I was this lazy and incompetent I would be sacked.[/p][/quote]How many more? Apart from one unique case in Banksome Chine when has a cyclist killed anyone walking on the pavement?[/p][/quote]Scrumpyjack has a fair point.... A zero tolerance police clampdown on antisocial behaviour including pavement parking, pavement cycling and ALL the other manifestations would go a long way to improving the area DanWeston
  • Score: 7

1:56pm Sun 20 Apr 14

old bod says...

maybe if more of the general public stood up to the pavement cyclists we would see less of them using the pavement as though its part of their human rights , I'm forever having words and occasionally paying the price ! oh by the way I'm also a motorist and a cyclist that can actually manage to cycle on the road rather than the pavement.
maybe if more of the general public stood up to the pavement cyclists we would see less of them using the pavement as though its part of their human rights , I'm forever having words and occasionally paying the price ! oh by the way I'm also a motorist and a cyclist that can actually manage to cycle on the road rather than the pavement. old bod
  • Score: 7

2:51pm Sun 20 Apr 14

breamoreboy says...

anotherfatslob wrote:
Beligerent pensioners are a menace behind the wheel.
They are indeed, but that is completely irrelevant to this story.
[quote][p][bold]anotherfatslob[/bold] wrote: Beligerent pensioners are a menace behind the wheel.[/p][/quote]They are indeed, but that is completely irrelevant to this story. breamoreboy
  • Score: 4

2:57pm Sun 20 Apr 14

breamoreboy says...

Petelucas wrote:
Some weeks ago on Avon Causeway near Christchurch about 6 cyclists in cycle helmets and obligatory ridiculous black tights were cycling towards me all abreast and taking up most of the oncoming carriageway. An impatient BMW driver overtook them on a bend and almost caused a head on collision with me. I was still shaken when I got to my destination. God knows how I avoided a serious crash. This really begs the two points. Cyclists have breath taking arrogance with the way most of them use a bicycle and car drivers show breath-taking ignorance by taking huge risks in these situations. Dont forget cyclists USE the roads TAX free.

I really hope they catch this little scroat riding on the PATH and the old man in hospital makes a good recovery
You learn something new every day, cyclists don't pay tax. If that were actually the case I suspect the number of bikes on the roads would go up by a factor of what, 100 fold?

I agree that they catch the little scroat and that the gentleman makes a full recovery.
[quote][p][bold]Petelucas[/bold] wrote: Some weeks ago on Avon Causeway near Christchurch about 6 cyclists in cycle helmets and obligatory ridiculous black tights were cycling towards me all abreast and taking up most of the oncoming carriageway. An impatient BMW driver overtook them on a bend and almost caused a head on collision with me. I was still shaken when I got to my destination. God knows how I avoided a serious crash. This really begs the two points. Cyclists have breath taking arrogance with the way most of them use a bicycle and car drivers show breath-taking ignorance by taking huge risks in these situations. Dont forget cyclists USE the roads TAX free. I really hope they catch this little scroat riding on the PATH and the old man in hospital makes a good recovery[/p][/quote]You learn something new every day, cyclists don't pay tax. If that were actually the case I suspect the number of bikes on the roads would go up by a factor of what, 100 fold? I agree that they catch the little scroat and that the gentleman makes a full recovery. breamoreboy
  • Score: 6

3:06pm Sun 20 Apr 14

Stopmoaninganddo1 says...

Twice I was nearly hit by a cyclist, but I hit them 1st.. The 1st one was crossing a road on the green man red for him, on his phone.. pushed him to the floor and left him there.. 2nd in boscombe high street...
Twice I was nearly hit by a cyclist, but I hit them 1st.. The 1st one was crossing a road on the green man red for him, on his phone.. pushed him to the floor and left him there.. 2nd in boscombe high street... Stopmoaninganddo1
  • Score: 3

3:07pm Sun 20 Apr 14

breamoreboy says...

Petelucas wrote:
ragj195 wrote:
Petelucas wrote:
Some weeks ago on Avon Causeway near Christchurch about 6 cyclists in cycle helmets and obligatory ridiculous black tights were cycling towards me all abreast and taking up most of the oncoming carriageway. An impatient BMW driver overtook them on a bend and almost caused a head on collision with me. I was still shaken when I got to my destination. God knows how I avoided a serious crash. This really begs the two points. Cyclists have breath taking arrogance with the way most of them use a bicycle and car drivers show breath-taking ignorance by taking huge risks in these situations. Dont forget cyclists USE the roads TAX free.

I really hope they catch this little scroat riding on the PATH and the old man in hospital makes a good recovery
No they don't use it tax free. A cyclist without a car and a good job will be paying more towards the roads than a car driver on benefits. This is about done yobs in Boscombe but don't let that stop you.
@ragj195 says...

"No they don't use it tax free. A cyclist without a car and a good job will be paying more towards the roads than a car driver on benefits. This is about done yobs in Boscombe but don't let that stop you."

What on earth has this got to do with benefits et al.
You lot always change the goal posts of the debate. I said that I hope they catch the scroat. All I said and I put in it plain English so that your limited intellect will grasp it is that there are faults on both sides. If you had experienced what I did on Avon Causeway you may have a differing view. Cyclists DO NOT pay tax to use the road end of. All road users should respect one another. This is about a 77 y/o man in hospital because of an IGNORANT CYCLIST end of !!!
Interesting. In one sentence you're talking about "limited intellect", two sentences later you're banging on about " Cyclists DO NOT pay tax to use the road end of". Complete nonsense of course. As a cyclist I suspect that some of the (say) insurance tax that I pay goes towards the roads
[quote][p][bold]Petelucas[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ragj195[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Petelucas[/bold] wrote: Some weeks ago on Avon Causeway near Christchurch about 6 cyclists in cycle helmets and obligatory ridiculous black tights were cycling towards me all abreast and taking up most of the oncoming carriageway. An impatient BMW driver overtook them on a bend and almost caused a head on collision with me. I was still shaken when I got to my destination. God knows how I avoided a serious crash. This really begs the two points. Cyclists have breath taking arrogance with the way most of them use a bicycle and car drivers show breath-taking ignorance by taking huge risks in these situations. Dont forget cyclists USE the roads TAX free. I really hope they catch this little scroat riding on the PATH and the old man in hospital makes a good recovery[/p][/quote]No they don't use it tax free. A cyclist without a car and a good job will be paying more towards the roads than a car driver on benefits. This is about done yobs in Boscombe but don't let that stop you.[/p][/quote]@ragj195 says... "No they don't use it tax free. A cyclist without a car and a good job will be paying more towards the roads than a car driver on benefits. This is about done yobs in Boscombe but don't let that stop you." What on earth has this got to do with benefits et al. You lot always change the goal posts of the debate. I said that I hope they catch the scroat. All I said and I put in it plain English so that your limited intellect will grasp it is that there are faults on both sides. If you had experienced what I did on Avon Causeway you may have a differing view. Cyclists DO NOT pay tax to use the road end of. All road users should respect one another. This is about a 77 y/o man in hospital because of an IGNORANT CYCLIST end of !!![/p][/quote]Interesting. In one sentence you're talking about "limited intellect", two sentences later you're banging on about " Cyclists DO NOT pay tax to use the road end of". Complete nonsense of course. As a cyclist I suspect that some of the (say) insurance tax that I pay goes towards the roads breamoreboy
  • Score: 3

3:09pm Sun 20 Apr 14

DanWeston says...

old bod wrote:
maybe if more of the general public stood up to the pavement cyclists we would see less of them using the pavement as though its part of their human rights , I'm forever having words and occasionally paying the price ! oh by the way I'm also a motorist and a cyclist that can actually manage to cycle on the road rather than the pavement.
Maybe if more of the general public stood up to the pavement parking motorists we would see less of them using the pavement to park on as though its part of their human rights, and claiming that they "need to obstruct the pavements"?

Why are you only keen on cyclists being censured?

The misuse of pavements is antisocial, as was the behaviour of these yobs.

Surely we should be consistent and condemn all antisocial behaviour as opposed to accepting it form one group, but notthe other.

Old bod - would you support a zero tolerance campaign for ALL antisocial behaviour including parking on pavements as well as cycling on them?
[quote][p][bold]old bod[/bold] wrote: maybe if more of the general public stood up to the pavement cyclists we would see less of them using the pavement as though its part of their human rights , I'm forever having words and occasionally paying the price ! oh by the way I'm also a motorist and a cyclist that can actually manage to cycle on the road rather than the pavement.[/p][/quote]Maybe if more of the general public stood up to the pavement parking motorists we would see less of them using the pavement to park on as though its part of their human rights, and claiming that they "need to obstruct the pavements"? Why are you only keen on cyclists being censured? The misuse of pavements is antisocial, as was the behaviour of these yobs. Surely we should be consistent and condemn all antisocial behaviour as opposed to accepting it form one group, but notthe other. Old bod - would you support a zero tolerance campaign for ALL antisocial behaviour including parking on pavements as well as cycling on them? DanWeston
  • Score: 6

3:11pm Sun 20 Apr 14

breamoreboy says...

scrumpyjack wrote:
ragj195 wrote:
Petelucas wrote:
Some weeks ago on Avon Causeway near Christchurch about 6 cyclists in cycle helmets and obligatory ridiculous black tights were cycling towards me all abreast and taking up most of the oncoming carriageway. An impatient BMW driver overtook them on a bend and almost caused a head on collision with me. I was still shaken when I got to my destination. God knows how I avoided a serious crash. This really begs the two points. Cyclists have breath taking arrogance with the way most of them use a bicycle and car drivers show breath-taking ignorance by taking huge risks in these situations. Dont forget cyclists USE the roads TAX free.

I really hope they catch this little scroat riding on the PATH and the old man in hospital makes a good recovery
No they don't use it tax free. A cyclist without a car and a good job will be paying more towards the roads than a car driver on benefits. This is about done yobs in Boscombe but don't let that stop you.
You're wasting your time.

Apparantly all cyclists are ignorant a'holes who have never paid a penny in tax in their miserablelives, according to an astounding number of stupid, stupid, bloinkered people on this site.

TIme and again it is explained to them but they choose to completey ignore any thing like 'facts', 'reaility' or the simple truth.

Oh and I drive every day rather than cycle. Wonder how this affects the tax I pay, err that's right not one iota. (well apart from fuel duty)
You've short changed yourself, don't you pay 20% VAT on top of the fuel duty?
[quote][p][bold]scrumpyjack[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ragj195[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Petelucas[/bold] wrote: Some weeks ago on Avon Causeway near Christchurch about 6 cyclists in cycle helmets and obligatory ridiculous black tights were cycling towards me all abreast and taking up most of the oncoming carriageway. An impatient BMW driver overtook them on a bend and almost caused a head on collision with me. I was still shaken when I got to my destination. God knows how I avoided a serious crash. This really begs the two points. Cyclists have breath taking arrogance with the way most of them use a bicycle and car drivers show breath-taking ignorance by taking huge risks in these situations. Dont forget cyclists USE the roads TAX free. I really hope they catch this little scroat riding on the PATH and the old man in hospital makes a good recovery[/p][/quote]No they don't use it tax free. A cyclist without a car and a good job will be paying more towards the roads than a car driver on benefits. This is about done yobs in Boscombe but don't let that stop you.[/p][/quote]You're wasting your time. Apparantly all cyclists are ignorant a'holes who have never paid a penny in tax in their miserablelives, according to an astounding number of stupid, stupid, bloinkered people on this site. TIme and again it is explained to them but they choose to completey ignore any thing like 'facts', 'reaility' or the simple truth. Oh and I drive every day rather than cycle. Wonder how this affects the tax I pay, err that's right not one iota. (well apart from fuel duty)[/p][/quote]You've short changed yourself, don't you pay 20% VAT on top of the fuel duty? breamoreboy
  • Score: 1

3:11pm Sun 20 Apr 14

Stopmoaninganddo1 says...

breamoreboy: just so you know car tax is not for the road its for the vehicle.. I not a fan of cyclists on pavements but hate the same old argument of tax etc you know something you every day... I am not in any way defending the scroat who knocked the poor chap over... Those who ride on pavements wind me up, I NEVER move out the way for them..
breamoreboy: just so you know car tax is not for the road its for the vehicle.. I not a fan of cyclists on pavements but hate the same old argument of tax etc you know something you every day... I am not in any way defending the scroat who knocked the poor chap over... Those who ride on pavements wind me up, I NEVER move out the way for them.. Stopmoaninganddo1
  • Score: 2

3:12pm Sun 20 Apr 14

DanWeston says...

Stopmoaninganddo1 wrote:
Twice I was nearly hit by a cyclist, but I hit them 1st.. The 1st one was crossing a road on the green man red for him, on his phone.. pushed him to the floor and left him there.. 2nd in boscombe high street...
Assuming that you are not another sad internet warrior making caims out of their fantasies....

Your actions really put you squarely in the same category as the Scrote who pushed over this elderly gentleman.

An ignorant, aggressive and violent individual that needs to be taken off the streets
[quote][p][bold]Stopmoaninganddo1[/bold] wrote: Twice I was nearly hit by a cyclist, but I hit them 1st.. The 1st one was crossing a road on the green man red for him, on his phone.. pushed him to the floor and left him there.. 2nd in boscombe high street...[/p][/quote]Assuming that you are not another sad internet warrior making caims out of their fantasies.... Your actions really put you squarely in the same category as the Scrote who pushed over this elderly gentleman. An ignorant, aggressive and violent individual that needs to be taken off the streets DanWeston
  • Score: 11

3:12pm Sun 20 Apr 14

cpf242 says...

winton50 wrote:
more echo clickbait
You got it.Didn't realise how many Jeremy Clarkson's lived in Bournemouth.
[quote][p][bold]winton50[/bold] wrote: more echo clickbait[/p][/quote]You got it.Didn't realise how many Jeremy Clarkson's lived in Bournemouth. cpf242
  • Score: 0

3:15pm Sun 20 Apr 14

breamoreboy says...

scrumpyjack wrote:
speedy231278 wrote:
scrumpyjack wrote:
hghandyman wrote:
Isn't it about time that cyclists should have compulsory registration plates, pay road tax and sit a cycling proficiency test? They should also have to have insurance and an mot. They all seem to want special treatment but don't want to pay for it. Pavements, roads, footpaths, bridleways, woodland walks and canal towpaths all seem to be the domain of the inconsiderate cyclist. Oh, and by the way, I'm a cyclist, motorcyclist, van driver and car driver.
Stupid is as stupid says.
And you are more stupid than most.
From you I will take that a compliment.
I have a great solution to our problems, let's call each other names. To put it another way, please don't drag yourselves down to the level of the idiot that has started the story, and let's have a bit more thought for the poor blighter who's taken the hammering.
[quote][p][bold]scrumpyjack[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]speedy231278[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]scrumpyjack[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hghandyman[/bold] wrote: Isn't it about time that cyclists should have compulsory registration plates, pay road tax and sit a cycling proficiency test? They should also have to have insurance and an mot. They all seem to want special treatment but don't want to pay for it. Pavements, roads, footpaths, bridleways, woodland walks and canal towpaths all seem to be the domain of the inconsiderate cyclist. Oh, and by the way, I'm a cyclist, motorcyclist, van driver and car driver.[/p][/quote]Stupid is as stupid says.[/p][/quote]And you are more stupid than most.[/p][/quote]From you I will take that a compliment.[/p][/quote]I have a great solution to our problems, let's call each other names. To put it another way, please don't drag yourselves down to the level of the idiot that has started the story, and let's have a bit more thought for the poor blighter who's taken the hammering. breamoreboy
  • Score: 5

3:16pm Sun 20 Apr 14

Staynor66 says...

Why not give the power to issue tickets to cyclists to traffic wardens, they always seem to be ideally placed to deal with the issue. Police have far more higher priorities dealing with the rest of societies issues.
Why not give the power to issue tickets to cyclists to traffic wardens, they always seem to be ideally placed to deal with the issue. Police have far more higher priorities dealing with the rest of societies issues. Staynor66
  • Score: 5

3:53pm Sun 20 Apr 14

ekimnoslen says...

Huey wrote:
Hmmm yet again. Maybe instead of building the tardis cops could actually police our pavements a bit. Not as newsworthy but a lot more useful.
Hope the old gent pulls through ok.
It would appear that the police have been instructed not to enforce the law that prohibits cycling on footpaths, cycling across pedestrian crossings, cycling through traffic and pedestrian lights on red apart from one day a year when they get out of their cars and slap a few wrists for cycling without lights.
Obviously the police have joined the "don't give a b****r society" in which we appear to live.
Would the Chief Constable or Commissioner of Police care to comment?
In your dreams!
[quote][p][bold]Huey[/bold] wrote: Hmmm yet again. Maybe instead of building the tardis cops could actually police our pavements a bit. Not as newsworthy but a lot more useful. Hope the old gent pulls through ok.[/p][/quote]It would appear that the police have been instructed not to enforce the law that prohibits cycling on footpaths, cycling across pedestrian crossings, cycling through traffic and pedestrian lights on red apart from one day a year when they get out of their cars and slap a few wrists for cycling without lights. Obviously the police have joined the "don't give a b****r society" in which we appear to live. Would the Chief Constable or Commissioner of Police care to comment? In your dreams! ekimnoslen
  • Score: 3

3:56pm Sun 20 Apr 14

s-pb2 says...

hghandyman wrote:
Isn't it about time that cyclists should have compulsory registration plates, pay road tax and sit a cycling proficiency test? They should also have to have insurance and an mot. They all seem to want special treatment but don't want to pay for it. Pavements, roads, footpaths, bridleways, woodland walks and canal towpaths all seem to be the domain of the inconsiderate cyclist. Oh, and by the way, I'm a cyclist, motorcyclist, van driver and car driver.
Yawn!!!

I knew this boring stupid argument would come up again.

Would you seriously register, test and tax an 8 year old? All your dumb suggestion would do is put more people in the road in cars causing more traffic problems than ever before.

Then what about other road users. The same would have to be done for skateboarders, bladers, longboarders, kids scooters, mobility vehicles. They all use the roads too, and while you at it tax and test pedestrians!

And for the millionth time there is no such thing as road tax!! There is VED which you call road tax which is based on CO2 emissions. The roads are paid from general tax and council tax. So if anything cyclists are actually subsidising the motorist!
[quote][p][bold]hghandyman[/bold] wrote: Isn't it about time that cyclists should have compulsory registration plates, pay road tax and sit a cycling proficiency test? They should also have to have insurance and an mot. They all seem to want special treatment but don't want to pay for it. Pavements, roads, footpaths, bridleways, woodland walks and canal towpaths all seem to be the domain of the inconsiderate cyclist. Oh, and by the way, I'm a cyclist, motorcyclist, van driver and car driver.[/p][/quote]Yawn!!! I knew this boring stupid argument would come up again. Would you seriously register, test and tax an 8 year old? All your dumb suggestion would do is put more people in the road in cars causing more traffic problems than ever before. Then what about other road users. The same would have to be done for skateboarders, bladers, longboarders, kids scooters, mobility vehicles. They all use the roads too, and while you at it tax and test pedestrians! And for the millionth time there is no such thing as road tax!! There is VED which you call road tax which is based on CO2 emissions. The roads are paid from general tax and council tax. So if anything cyclists are actually subsidising the motorist! s-pb2
  • Score: 3

4:11pm Sun 20 Apr 14

Artoo says...

scrumpyjack wrote:
hghandyman wrote:
Isn't it about time that cyclists should have compulsory registration plates, pay road tax and sit a cycling proficiency test? They should also have to have insurance and an mot. They all seem to want special treatment but don't want to pay for it. Pavements, roads, footpaths, bridleways, woodland walks and canal towpaths all seem to be the domain of the inconsiderate cyclist. Oh, and by the way, I'm a cyclist, motorcyclist, van driver and car driver.
Stupid is as stupid says.
Only if car drivers start paying road tax as well... The VEL (vehicle excise licence) is a tax on using a car, not a tax on using the road!
[quote][p][bold]scrumpyjack[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hghandyman[/bold] wrote: Isn't it about time that cyclists should have compulsory registration plates, pay road tax and sit a cycling proficiency test? They should also have to have insurance and an mot. They all seem to want special treatment but don't want to pay for it. Pavements, roads, footpaths, bridleways, woodland walks and canal towpaths all seem to be the domain of the inconsiderate cyclist. Oh, and by the way, I'm a cyclist, motorcyclist, van driver and car driver.[/p][/quote]Stupid is as stupid says.[/p][/quote]Only if car drivers start paying road tax as well... The VEL (vehicle excise licence) is a tax on using a car, not a tax on using the road! Artoo
  • Score: 6

4:11pm Sun 20 Apr 14

DanWeston says...

ekimnoslen wrote:
Huey wrote:
Hmmm yet again. Maybe instead of building the tardis cops could actually police our pavements a bit. Not as newsworthy but a lot more useful.
Hope the old gent pulls through ok.
It would appear that the police have been instructed not to enforce the law that prohibits cycling on footpaths, cycling across pedestrian crossings, cycling through traffic and pedestrian lights on red apart from one day a year when they get out of their cars and slap a few wrists for cycling without lights.
Obviously the police have joined the "don't give a b****r society" in which we appear to live.
Would the Chief Constable or Commissioner of Police care to comment?
In your dreams!
I always find the hypocrisy and double standards on these forums laughable

All these people who want a clampdown on cycling on the pavement, yet seem to be less keen when it is suggested that the equally antisocial and far more dangerous endemic parking on pavements should be tackled as well.

Here is a challenge, either support a zero tolerance clampdown on ALL misuse of the pavements or explain why you feel it is alright for motorists to injure pedestrians, but not cyclists

To any reasonable person NEITHER should be acceptable.
[quote][p][bold]ekimnoslen[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Huey[/bold] wrote: Hmmm yet again. Maybe instead of building the tardis cops could actually police our pavements a bit. Not as newsworthy but a lot more useful. Hope the old gent pulls through ok.[/p][/quote]It would appear that the police have been instructed not to enforce the law that prohibits cycling on footpaths, cycling across pedestrian crossings, cycling through traffic and pedestrian lights on red apart from one day a year when they get out of their cars and slap a few wrists for cycling without lights. Obviously the police have joined the "don't give a b****r society" in which we appear to live. Would the Chief Constable or Commissioner of Police care to comment? In your dreams![/p][/quote]I always find the hypocrisy and double standards on these forums laughable All these people who want a clampdown on cycling on the pavement, yet seem to be less keen when it is suggested that the equally antisocial and far more dangerous endemic parking on pavements should be tackled as well. Here is a challenge, either support a zero tolerance clampdown on ALL misuse of the pavements or explain why you feel it is alright for motorists to injure pedestrians, but not cyclists To any reasonable person NEITHER should be acceptable. DanWeston
  • Score: 8

4:47pm Sun 20 Apr 14

Stopmoaninganddo1 says...

DanWeston you sound a like in a fantasy yourself, yes I do that! I don't go around hitting people... but If your stupid enough to ride on a pavement the 1st thing I'm going to do is to hold my hand out. if someone is riding towards me at 10x my speed what else shall I do?!
DanWeston you sound a like in a fantasy yourself, yes I do that! I don't go around hitting people... but If your stupid enough to ride on a pavement the 1st thing I'm going to do is to hold my hand out. if someone is riding towards me at 10x my speed what else shall I do?! Stopmoaninganddo1
  • Score: 0

4:55pm Sun 20 Apr 14

DanWeston says...

Stopmoaninganddo1 wrote:
DanWeston you sound a like in a fantasy yourself, yes I do that! I don't go around hitting people... but If your stupid enough to ride on a pavement the 1st thing I'm going to do is to hold my hand out. if someone is riding towards me at 10x my speed what else shall I do?!
I think we can safely let your two posts speak for themselves....

When you have read them both and decided which one you are going to claim is accurate let us know.




In the meanwhile where do you stand on the mater of the elderly, infirm and disabled being obstructed and injured by parked cars?

Or are you one of the hypocrites who finds this acceptable for motorists and not for cyclists ?
[quote][p][bold]Stopmoaninganddo1[/bold] wrote: DanWeston you sound a like in a fantasy yourself, yes I do that! I don't go around hitting people... but If your stupid enough to ride on a pavement the 1st thing I'm going to do is to hold my hand out. if someone is riding towards me at 10x my speed what else shall I do?![/p][/quote]I think we can safely let your two posts speak for themselves.... When you have read them both and decided which one you are going to claim is accurate let us know. In the meanwhile where do you stand on the mater of the elderly, infirm and disabled being obstructed and injured by parked cars? Or are you one of the hypocrites who finds this acceptable for motorists and not for cyclists ? DanWeston
  • Score: 5

5:15pm Sun 20 Apr 14

scrumpyjack says...

leotuttle wrote:
This has got bugger all to do with a cyclist and all to do with thug who rides a bike. Hope the elderly gentleman makes a swift recovery and the thug is caught.
2 lines. That is all it took sum this story up.
[quote][p][bold]leotuttle[/bold] wrote: This has got bugger all to do with a cyclist and all to do with thug who rides a bike. Hope the elderly gentleman makes a swift recovery and the thug is caught.[/p][/quote]2 lines. That is all it took sum this story up. scrumpyjack
  • Score: 9

5:29pm Sun 20 Apr 14

scrumpyjack says...

hooplaa wrote:
Mike_French wrote:
I was hit myself - a lot younger than the gentleman involved here - a few yards away in front of the chip shop.
Yes it was on the pavement, yes it hurt and yes it took a while for the pain to go........ had a recovering shattered wrist at the time.....
My witnesses? A PCSO and a serving constable, both saw the incident but both chose to ignore it and the quote was: "We are on our lunch" -
Hope you enjoyed your chips that day, a TARDIS?, makes hell of a difference that does.............
What a load of made up rubbish
Oh you spotted that as well.
[quote][p][bold]hooplaa[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mike_French[/bold] wrote: I was hit myself - a lot younger than the gentleman involved here - a few yards away in front of the chip shop. Yes it was on the pavement, yes it hurt and yes it took a while for the pain to go........ had a recovering shattered wrist at the time..... My witnesses? A PCSO and a serving constable, both saw the incident but both chose to ignore it and the quote was: "We are on our lunch" - Hope you enjoyed your chips that day, a TARDIS?, makes hell of a difference that does.............[/p][/quote]What a load of made up rubbish[/p][/quote]Oh you spotted that as well. scrumpyjack
  • Score: 4

5:43pm Sun 20 Apr 14

Theo63 says...

I personally dont think this incident is about cyclists versus motorists versus pedestrians. It's about living in a society where many individuals have no respect for people or their property and the elderly gentleman was taking responsibility and asking them not to ride on the pavement.

This had nothing to do with age either - it's to do with upbringing, teaching your children to act responsibly and take responsibility.
I personally dont think this incident is about cyclists versus motorists versus pedestrians. It's about living in a society where many individuals have no respect for people or their property and the elderly gentleman was taking responsibility and asking them not to ride on the pavement. This had nothing to do with age either - it's to do with upbringing, teaching your children to act responsibly and take responsibility. Theo63
  • Score: 14

5:50pm Sun 20 Apr 14

scrumpyjack says...

Artoo wrote:
scrumpyjack wrote:
hghandyman wrote:
Isn't it about time that cyclists should have compulsory registration plates, pay road tax and sit a cycling proficiency test? They should also have to have insurance and an mot. They all seem to want special treatment but don't want to pay for it. Pavements, roads, footpaths, bridleways, woodland walks and canal towpaths all seem to be the domain of the inconsiderate cyclist. Oh, and by the way, I'm a cyclist, motorcyclist, van driver and car driver.
Stupid is as stupid says.
Only if car drivers start paying road tax as well... The VEL (vehicle excise licence) is a tax on using a car, not a tax on using the road!
Yes I know.
[quote][p][bold]Artoo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]scrumpyjack[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hghandyman[/bold] wrote: Isn't it about time that cyclists should have compulsory registration plates, pay road tax and sit a cycling proficiency test? They should also have to have insurance and an mot. They all seem to want special treatment but don't want to pay for it. Pavements, roads, footpaths, bridleways, woodland walks and canal towpaths all seem to be the domain of the inconsiderate cyclist. Oh, and by the way, I'm a cyclist, motorcyclist, van driver and car driver.[/p][/quote]Stupid is as stupid says.[/p][/quote]Only if car drivers start paying road tax as well... The VEL (vehicle excise licence) is a tax on using a car, not a tax on using the road![/p][/quote]Yes I know. scrumpyjack
  • Score: 2

5:50pm Sun 20 Apr 14

scrumpyjack says...

Artoo wrote:
scrumpyjack wrote:
hghandyman wrote:
Isn't it about time that cyclists should have compulsory registration plates, pay road tax and sit a cycling proficiency test? They should also have to have insurance and an mot. They all seem to want special treatment but don't want to pay for it. Pavements, roads, footpaths, bridleways, woodland walks and canal towpaths all seem to be the domain of the inconsiderate cyclist. Oh, and by the way, I'm a cyclist, motorcyclist, van driver and car driver.
Stupid is as stupid says.
Only if car drivers start paying road tax as well... The VEL (vehicle excise licence) is a tax on using a car, not a tax on using the road!
Yes I know.
[quote][p][bold]Artoo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]scrumpyjack[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hghandyman[/bold] wrote: Isn't it about time that cyclists should have compulsory registration plates, pay road tax and sit a cycling proficiency test? They should also have to have insurance and an mot. They all seem to want special treatment but don't want to pay for it. Pavements, roads, footpaths, bridleways, woodland walks and canal towpaths all seem to be the domain of the inconsiderate cyclist. Oh, and by the way, I'm a cyclist, motorcyclist, van driver and car driver.[/p][/quote]Stupid is as stupid says.[/p][/quote]Only if car drivers start paying road tax as well... The VEL (vehicle excise licence) is a tax on using a car, not a tax on using the road![/p][/quote]Yes I know. scrumpyjack
  • Score: 4

5:57pm Sun 20 Apr 14

scrumpyjack says...

Stopmoaninganddo1 wrote:
Twice I was nearly hit by a cyclist, but I hit them 1st.. The 1st one was crossing a road on the green man red for him, on his phone.. pushed him to the floor and left him there.. 2nd in boscombe high street...
No you didn't.

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[quote][p][bold]Stopmoaninganddo1[/bold] wrote: Twice I was nearly hit by a cyclist, but I hit them 1st.. The 1st one was crossing a road on the green man red for him, on his phone.. pushed him to the floor and left him there.. 2nd in boscombe high street...[/p][/quote]No you didn't. http://img.pandawhal e.com/post-20629-I-D ont-Believe-You-gif- Anchorm-JFIx.gif scrumpyjack
  • Score: 5

6:27pm Sun 20 Apr 14

breamoreboy says...

Staynor66 wrote:
Why not give the power to issue tickets to cyclists to traffic wardens, they always seem to be ideally placed to deal with the issue. Police have far more higher priorities dealing with the rest of societies issues.
I'd agree that letting traffic wardens deal with cyclists is a reasonable idea. But if a bloke put in hospital isn't an issue for the police, what on earth is?
[quote][p][bold]Staynor66[/bold] wrote: Why not give the power to issue tickets to cyclists to traffic wardens, they always seem to be ideally placed to deal with the issue. Police have far more higher priorities dealing with the rest of societies issues.[/p][/quote]I'd agree that letting traffic wardens deal with cyclists is a reasonable idea. But if a bloke put in hospital isn't an issue for the police, what on earth is? breamoreboy
  • Score: 7

7:25pm Sun 20 Apr 14

sprintervanman says...

yet again the Bournemouth Echo have come up trumps in boosting their Advertising revenue by including the word 'cyclist' in a headline knowing it will bring in a load of comments.In truth it was not a cyclist but some low life scum who happened to be on a bicycle that assaulted the Gent.Hope he recovers well.
yet again the Bournemouth Echo have come up trumps in boosting their Advertising revenue by including the word 'cyclist' in a headline knowing it will bring in a load of comments.In truth it was not a cyclist but some low life scum who happened to be on a bicycle that assaulted the Gent.Hope he recovers well. sprintervanman
  • Score: 5

7:58pm Sun 20 Apr 14

nickynoodah says...

I would want £50 to smell the saddle on nobaths bike
and £100 to sit on it. you know
NOOO £200
I would want £50 to smell the saddle on nobaths bike and £100 to sit on it. you know NOOO £200 nickynoodah
  • Score: -7

8:32pm Sun 20 Apr 14

Dont drop litter says...

speedy231278 wrote:
scrumpyjack wrote:
hghandyman wrote:
Isn't it about time that cyclists should have compulsory registration plates, pay road tax and sit a cycling proficiency test? They should also have to have insurance and an mot. They all seem to want special treatment but don't want to pay for it. Pavements, roads, footpaths, bridleways, woodland walks and canal towpaths all seem to be the domain of the inconsiderate cyclist. Oh, and by the way, I'm a cyclist, motorcyclist, van driver and car driver.
Stupid is as stupid says.
And you are more stupid than most.
it would be completely unworkable. Have you any idea how many bikes are stolen? do you even suspect for one minute that the waster that pushed this old man to the ground actually owned the bike he was riding? I doubt it. In which case how would have a vehicle registration help? All that would result, assuming that the police managed to trace the offender, who be returning the bike to it's original owner.
[quote][p][bold]speedy231278[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]scrumpyjack[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hghandyman[/bold] wrote: Isn't it about time that cyclists should have compulsory registration plates, pay road tax and sit a cycling proficiency test? They should also have to have insurance and an mot. They all seem to want special treatment but don't want to pay for it. Pavements, roads, footpaths, bridleways, woodland walks and canal towpaths all seem to be the domain of the inconsiderate cyclist. Oh, and by the way, I'm a cyclist, motorcyclist, van driver and car driver.[/p][/quote]Stupid is as stupid says.[/p][/quote]And you are more stupid than most.[/p][/quote]it would be completely unworkable. Have you any idea how many bikes are stolen? do you even suspect for one minute that the waster that pushed this old man to the ground actually owned the bike he was riding? I doubt it. In which case how would have a vehicle registration help? All that would result, assuming that the police managed to trace the offender, who be returning the bike to it's original owner. Dont drop litter
  • Score: 6

8:32pm Sun 20 Apr 14

Dont drop litter says...

speedy231278 wrote:
scrumpyjack wrote:
hghandyman wrote:
Isn't it about time that cyclists should have compulsory registration plates, pay road tax and sit a cycling proficiency test? They should also have to have insurance and an mot. They all seem to want special treatment but don't want to pay for it. Pavements, roads, footpaths, bridleways, woodland walks and canal towpaths all seem to be the domain of the inconsiderate cyclist. Oh, and by the way, I'm a cyclist, motorcyclist, van driver and car driver.
Stupid is as stupid says.
And you are more stupid than most.
it would be completely unworkable. Have you any idea how many bikes are stolen? do you even suspect for one minute that the waster that pushed this old man to the ground actually owned the bike he was riding? I doubt it. In which case how would have a vehicle registration help? All that would result, assuming that the police managed to trace the offender, who be returning the bike to it's original owner.
[quote][p][bold]speedy231278[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]scrumpyjack[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hghandyman[/bold] wrote: Isn't it about time that cyclists should have compulsory registration plates, pay road tax and sit a cycling proficiency test? They should also have to have insurance and an mot. They all seem to want special treatment but don't want to pay for it. Pavements, roads, footpaths, bridleways, woodland walks and canal towpaths all seem to be the domain of the inconsiderate cyclist. Oh, and by the way, I'm a cyclist, motorcyclist, van driver and car driver.[/p][/quote]Stupid is as stupid says.[/p][/quote]And you are more stupid than most.[/p][/quote]it would be completely unworkable. Have you any idea how many bikes are stolen? do you even suspect for one minute that the waster that pushed this old man to the ground actually owned the bike he was riding? I doubt it. In which case how would have a vehicle registration help? All that would result, assuming that the police managed to trace the offender, who be returning the bike to it's original owner. Dont drop litter
  • Score: 4

8:41pm Sun 20 Apr 14

Dont drop litter says...

Boscombe Warrior wrote:
From the Highway Code: 64
You MUST NOT cycle on a pavement.
Laws HA 1835 sect 72 & R(S)A 1984, sect 129

https://www.gov.uk/r

ules-for-cyclists-59

-to-82/overview-59-t

o-71
Yeah Yeah yeah, we all know that but the law is about 100 years old and dates back to an era where there were no cars. The roads aren't that safe for cyclists anymore. In town centres and busy shopping streets etc. I would agree that the pavement is not for cycling but in other areas there's no real reason why not.
The problem with this particular incident is that the person involved doesn't sound exactly like a decent, responsible member of society - you just can't expect these sort of people to abide by the rules.
[quote][p][bold]Boscombe Warrior[/bold] wrote: From the Highway Code: 64 You MUST NOT cycle on a pavement. Laws HA 1835 sect 72 & R(S)A 1984, sect 129 https://www.gov.uk/r ules-for-cyclists-59 -to-82/overview-59-t o-71[/p][/quote]Yeah Yeah yeah, we all know that but the law is about 100 years old and dates back to an era where there were no cars. The roads aren't that safe for cyclists anymore. In town centres and busy shopping streets etc. I would agree that the pavement is not for cycling but in other areas there's no real reason why not. The problem with this particular incident is that the person involved doesn't sound exactly like a decent, responsible member of society - you just can't expect these sort of people to abide by the rules. Dont drop litter
  • Score: 1

8:56pm Sun 20 Apr 14

DanWeston says...

Dont drop litter wrote:
Boscombe Warrior wrote:
From the Highway Code: 64
You MUST NOT cycle on a pavement.
Laws HA 1835 sect 72 & R(S)A 1984, sect 129

https://www.gov.uk/r


ules-for-cyclists-59


-to-82/overview-59-t


o-71
Yeah Yeah yeah, we all know that but the law is about 100 years old and dates back to an era where there were no cars. The roads aren't that safe for cyclists anymore. In town centres and busy shopping streets etc. I would agree that the pavement is not for cycling but in other areas there's no real reason why not.
The problem with this particular incident is that the person involved doesn't sound exactly like a decent, responsible member of society - you just can't expect these sort of people to abide by the rules.
Highway code rule 244

You MUST NOT park partially or wholly on the pavement in London, and should not do so elsewhere unless signs permit it. Parking on the pavement can obstruct and seriously inconvenience pedestrians, people in wheelchairs or with visual impairments and people with prams or pushchairs.
Law GL(GP)A sect 15

... and your point about cyclists was?

The Highway code gives clear reasions why tyou should not park on teh pavement yet it endemic in many parts of Boscombe.

Again, as "Old bod" and "Stopmoaninganddo1" seem to be reluctant to condemn the more dangerous pavement parking (no surprise there really) where do you stand?

Given that both cyclists and vehicles are a a threat to safety would you support a zero tolerance policy for BOTH cyclists and motorists abusing the pavement
[quote][p][bold]Dont drop litter[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Boscombe Warrior[/bold] wrote: From the Highway Code: 64 You MUST NOT cycle on a pavement. Laws HA 1835 sect 72 & R(S)A 1984, sect 129 https://www.gov.uk/r ules-for-cyclists-59 -to-82/overview-59-t o-71[/p][/quote]Yeah Yeah yeah, we all know that but the law is about 100 years old and dates back to an era where there were no cars. The roads aren't that safe for cyclists anymore. In town centres and busy shopping streets etc. I would agree that the pavement is not for cycling but in other areas there's no real reason why not. The problem with this particular incident is that the person involved doesn't sound exactly like a decent, responsible member of society - you just can't expect these sort of people to abide by the rules.[/p][/quote]Highway code rule 244 You MUST NOT park partially or wholly on the pavement in London, and should not do so elsewhere unless signs permit it. Parking on the pavement can obstruct and seriously inconvenience pedestrians, people in wheelchairs or with visual impairments and people with prams or pushchairs. Law GL(GP)A sect 15 ... and your point about cyclists was? The Highway code gives clear reasions why tyou should not park on teh pavement yet it endemic in many parts of Boscombe. Again, as "Old bod" and "Stopmoaninganddo1" seem to be reluctant to condemn the more dangerous pavement parking (no surprise there really) where do you stand? Given that both cyclists and vehicles are a a threat to safety would you support a zero tolerance policy for BOTH cyclists and motorists abusing the pavement DanWeston
  • Score: 6

9:02pm Sun 20 Apr 14

DanWeston says...

Dont drop litter wrote:
Boscombe Warrior wrote:
From the Highway Code: 64
You MUST NOT cycle on a pavement.
Laws HA 1835 sect 72 & R(S)A 1984, sect 129

https://www.gov.uk/r


ules-for-cyclists-59


-to-82/overview-59-t


o-71
Yeah Yeah yeah, we all know that but the law is about 100 years old and dates back to an era where there were no cars. The roads aren't that safe for cyclists anymore. In town centres and busy shopping streets etc. I would agree that the pavement is not for cycling but in other areas there's no real reason why not.
The problem with this particular incident is that the person involved doesn't sound exactly like a decent, responsible member of society - you just can't expect these sort of people to abide by the rules.
Highway code rule 244

You MUST NOT park partially or wholly on the pavement in London, and should not do so elsewhere unless signs permit it. Parking on the pavement can obstruct and seriously inconvenience pedestrians, people in wheelchairs or with visual impairments and people with prams or pushchairs.
Law GL(GP)A sect 15

... and your point about cyclists was?

The Highway code gives clear reasions why tyou should not park on teh pavement yet it endemic in many parts of Boscombe.

Again, as "Old bod" and "Stopmoaninganddo1" seem to be reluctant to condemn the more dangerous pavement parking (no surprise there really) where do you stand?

Given that both cyclists and vehicles are a a threat to safety would you support a zero tolerance policy for BOTH cyclists and motorists abusing the pavement
[quote][p][bold]Dont drop litter[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Boscombe Warrior[/bold] wrote: From the Highway Code: 64 You MUST NOT cycle on a pavement. Laws HA 1835 sect 72 & R(S)A 1984, sect 129 https://www.gov.uk/r ules-for-cyclists-59 -to-82/overview-59-t o-71[/p][/quote]Yeah Yeah yeah, we all know that but the law is about 100 years old and dates back to an era where there were no cars. The roads aren't that safe for cyclists anymore. In town centres and busy shopping streets etc. I would agree that the pavement is not for cycling but in other areas there's no real reason why not. The problem with this particular incident is that the person involved doesn't sound exactly like a decent, responsible member of society - you just can't expect these sort of people to abide by the rules.[/p][/quote]Highway code rule 244 You MUST NOT park partially or wholly on the pavement in London, and should not do so elsewhere unless signs permit it. Parking on the pavement can obstruct and seriously inconvenience pedestrians, people in wheelchairs or with visual impairments and people with prams or pushchairs. Law GL(GP)A sect 15 ... and your point about cyclists was? The Highway code gives clear reasions why tyou should not park on teh pavement yet it endemic in many parts of Boscombe. Again, as "Old bod" and "Stopmoaninganddo1" seem to be reluctant to condemn the more dangerous pavement parking (no surprise there really) where do you stand? Given that both cyclists and vehicles are a a threat to safety would you support a zero tolerance policy for BOTH cyclists and motorists abusing the pavement DanWeston
  • Score: 2

9:11pm Sun 20 Apr 14

DanWeston says...

Funnily enough Boscombe Warrior's post ironically makes a point in my favour, the offence under the 1835 act is to :

Driving animals or a 'carriage of any description' on the footway

The carriage of any description included bicycles in 1885 and motor vehicles in the 1903 amendments.
Funnily enough Boscombe Warrior's post ironically makes a point in my favour, the offence under the 1835 act is to : Driving animals or a 'carriage of any description' on the footway The carriage of any description included bicycles in 1885 and motor vehicles in the 1903 amendments. DanWeston
  • Score: 2

9:26pm Sun 20 Apr 14

sprintervanman says...

DanWeston wrote:
Funnily enough Boscombe Warrior's post ironically makes a point in my favour, the offence under the 1835 act is to :

Driving animals or a 'carriage of any description' on the footway

The carriage of any description included bicycles in 1885 and motor vehicles in the 1903 amendments.
Also the act passed that a bicycle being classed as a carriage allows them to use any part of the road so as not to restrict them to the gutter.That applies to A and B Roads but obviously not motorways...as the name implies for motor vehicles only.
[quote][p][bold]DanWeston[/bold] wrote: Funnily enough Boscombe Warrior's post ironically makes a point in my favour, the offence under the 1835 act is to : Driving animals or a 'carriage of any description' on the footway The carriage of any description included bicycles in 1885 and motor vehicles in the 1903 amendments.[/p][/quote]Also the act passed that a bicycle being classed as a carriage allows them to use any part of the road so as not to restrict them to the gutter.That applies to A and B Roads but obviously not motorways...as the name implies for motor vehicles only. sprintervanman
  • Score: 2

9:28pm Sun 20 Apr 14

Staynor66 says...

breamoreboy wrote:
Staynor66 wrote:
Why not give the power to issue tickets to cyclists to traffic wardens, they always seem to be ideally placed to deal with the issue. Police have far more higher priorities dealing with the rest of societies issues.
I'd agree that letting traffic wardens deal with cyclists is a reasonable idea. But if a bloke put in hospital isn't an issue for the police, what on earth is?
My comment was actually only in respect of cycling offences, whichever piece of scum assaulted this old gent should be strung up by his marbles and dangled into the sea at the end of boscombe pier. Hope this assists with clarifying the issue.
[quote][p][bold]breamoreboy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Staynor66[/bold] wrote: Why not give the power to issue tickets to cyclists to traffic wardens, they always seem to be ideally placed to deal with the issue. Police have far more higher priorities dealing with the rest of societies issues.[/p][/quote]I'd agree that letting traffic wardens deal with cyclists is a reasonable idea. But if a bloke put in hospital isn't an issue for the police, what on earth is?[/p][/quote]My comment was actually only in respect of cycling offences, whichever piece of scum assaulted this old gent should be strung up by his marbles and dangled into the sea at the end of boscombe pier. Hope this assists with clarifying the issue. Staynor66
  • Score: 5

11:05pm Sun 20 Apr 14

GeorgeW64 says...

Has no one who commented on here NEVER cycled on a pavement then ? Let him who is without sin cast the first stone.
Has no one who commented on here NEVER cycled on a pavement then ? Let him who is without sin cast the first stone. GeorgeW64
  • Score: -1

11:46pm Sun 20 Apr 14

baylin says...

Top and bottom of Fishermans walk zig zag there are no cycling signs no one takes a blind bit of notice you get snarled at if you dare to get in their way no cycling signs both ends of fishermans walk gardens all day people cycle threw there can anyone explain to me what is the point of putting up signs if you have no intention of enforcing them.
Top and bottom of Fishermans walk zig zag there are no cycling signs no one takes a blind bit of notice you get snarled at if you dare to get in their way no cycling signs both ends of fishermans walk gardens all day people cycle threw there can anyone explain to me what is the point of putting up signs if you have no intention of enforcing them. baylin
  • Score: 2

12:03am Mon 21 Apr 14

mpdor says...

Today I had to phone the police because 2 drunks were outside causing problems, the police were here very quick, the problem is that they sent them on their way using a directive that tells this type to leave the area, the police went, the 2 men dropped their trousers and urinated on the public pavement, I phoned the police back and was told that unless an officer sees them urinate there is nothing that can be done, they then went down a couple of rds away to bother others, where is the deterrent? - they were able to shout throw rubbish at peoples houses etc and nothing was done to show them it was unacceptable, I DO NOT BLAME THE PLOICE OFFICERS I blame those that make policy, boscombe police are over worked and do not have the resources the only thing that will change boscombe is enforcement of existing police powers used on the low life that make our lives hell, and most of those that defend the low life are actually the ones causing the problems
Today I had to phone the police because 2 drunks were outside causing problems, the police were here very quick, the problem is that they sent them on their way using a directive that tells this type to leave the area, the police went, the 2 men dropped their trousers and urinated on the public pavement, I phoned the police back and was told that unless an officer sees them urinate there is nothing that can be done, they then went down a couple of rds away to bother others, where is the deterrent? - they were able to shout throw rubbish at peoples houses etc and nothing was done to show them it was unacceptable, I DO NOT BLAME THE PLOICE OFFICERS I blame those that make policy, boscombe police are over worked and do not have the resources the only thing that will change boscombe is enforcement of existing police powers used on the low life that make our lives hell, and most of those that defend the low life are actually the ones causing the problems mpdor
  • Score: 4

12:43am Mon 21 Apr 14

scrumpyjack says...

GeorgeW64 wrote:
Has no one who commented on here NEVER cycled on a pavement then ? Let him who is without sin cast the first stone.
I have over the years and have never come close to hitting someone.

I have also had people cycle past me, sometimes faster than I would like, but that is the extreme and is so rare and I have to admit I have never once been hit and that is my point,

I would love all of the people on this thread to admit to how many times they have (truthfully) been hit by a cyclist.



I see and hear people all the time who have had a bike ride past them say things lie like 'he nearly knocked me over then' and 'oh my god they nearly killed me' and the actual truth is the bikes were never actually near them.

It's the same as the sea front; I have heard so many people claim they were nearly hit by a cyclist when I could see that the bike was never going to hit them- it was just their shock and fear that something moved past them at speed that created this 'I nearly got hit' syndrome.

Reality check: If you, like me, have never been hit by a bike that is not a coincidence that is reality. Now move on.
[quote][p][bold]GeorgeW64[/bold] wrote: Has no one who commented on here NEVER cycled on a pavement then ? Let him who is without sin cast the first stone.[/p][/quote]I have over the years and have never come close to hitting someone. I have also had people cycle past me, sometimes faster than I would like, but that is the extreme and is so rare and I have to admit I have never once been hit and that is my point, I would love all of the people on this thread to admit to how many times they have (truthfully) been hit by a cyclist. I see and hear people all the time who have had a bike ride past them say things lie like 'he nearly knocked me over then' and 'oh my god they nearly killed me' and the actual truth is the bikes were never actually near them. It's the same as the sea front; I have heard so many people claim they were nearly hit by a cyclist when I could see that the bike was never going to hit them- it was just their shock and fear that something moved past them at speed that created this 'I nearly got hit' syndrome. Reality check: If you, like me, have never been hit by a bike that is not a coincidence that is reality. Now move on. scrumpyjack
  • Score: 3

7:34am Mon 21 Apr 14

DanWeston says...

GeorgeW64 wrote:
Has no one who commented on here NEVER cycled on a pavement then ? Let him who is without sin cast the first stone.
Has anyone who has commented on here NEVER driven or parked on a pavement?

Let he who is without sin cast the first stone...

Note how the previous ranters about pavement cycling hall accept this practice and refuse to condemn it despite 98% of pedestrians being injured on the pavement by a motor vehicle as opposed to 2% by cyclists.

Neither should be acceptable, but the stench of hypocrisy is overpowering when the far more dangerous activity is accepted.
[quote][p][bold]GeorgeW64[/bold] wrote: Has no one who commented on here NEVER cycled on a pavement then ? Let him who is without sin cast the first stone.[/p][/quote]Has anyone who has commented on here NEVER driven or parked on a pavement? Let he who is without sin cast the first stone... Note how the previous ranters about pavement cycling hall accept this practice and refuse to condemn it despite 98% of pedestrians being injured on the pavement by a motor vehicle as opposed to 2% by cyclists. Neither should be acceptable, but the stench of hypocrisy is overpowering when the far more dangerous activity is accepted. DanWeston
  • Score: 4

9:04am Mon 21 Apr 14

ragj195 says...

DanWeston wrote:
GeorgeW64 wrote:
Has no one who commented on here NEVER cycled on a pavement then ? Let him who is without sin cast the first stone.
Has anyone who has commented on here NEVER driven or parked on a pavement?

Let he who is without sin cast the first stone...

Note how the previous ranters about pavement cycling hall accept this practice and refuse to condemn it despite 98% of pedestrians being injured on the pavement by a motor vehicle as opposed to 2% by cyclists.

Neither should be acceptable, but the stench of hypocrisy is overpowering when the far more dangerous activity is accepted.
I'm not a cyclist but i regularly run on pavements around Southbourne, Tuckton, Christchurch. I've never really understood what I see as an over-reaction when it comes to cycling on pavements. On an average 1hr run it's unlikely I'll see one cyclist on the pavement whereas during a 1hr drive in my car I'd probably come across at-least five people either tailgating, being on the phone, texting, significantly speeding etc. Both issues raise lots of comments on this website however the number of negative comments relating to cycling on pavements for some reason seem disproportionally high considering a cyclist on a pavement is pretty harmless. I don't think the accident rates justify any pro-active action by the Police and rightly so.

If I do run past them I don't feel like I've just had a close brush with death. Perhaps it's the elderly who understandably feel more vulnerable but then how many actual injuries result from someone cycling on a pavement. Let's not forgot this incident is an assault, nothing to do with cycling.

When I go cycling with my 8 year old daughter (which isn't often) she will often ride on the pavement while I cycle on the road. I've told her to respect pedestrians and to stop if she can't give one a wide berth. When she's old enough to cycle to school I tell her to carry on cycling on pavements because the roads in 2014 aren't like when I went to school in the 80's. There is 20x more traffic on the roads because kids don't walk or cycle to school anymore. The roads are jammed and unfortunately many of the drivers have their heads staring at their phones between their legs, and not on the road ahead. If anyone thinks I'm going to let my daughter share the road with cars that are a hairs width from being out of control they're mistaken. It's simply not going to happen.

Maybe people resent seeing someone openly committing what they feel is an illegal act so blatantly. Personally when I see someone cycling on the pavement, then I look at cars on the road and see someone driving past at 30mph while staring down at their knees, I find it pretty hard to condemn the cyclist because they are a million times less likely to kill someone than the car driver.
[quote][p][bold]DanWeston[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]GeorgeW64[/bold] wrote: Has no one who commented on here NEVER cycled on a pavement then ? Let him who is without sin cast the first stone.[/p][/quote]Has anyone who has commented on here NEVER driven or parked on a pavement? Let he who is without sin cast the first stone... Note how the previous ranters about pavement cycling hall accept this practice and refuse to condemn it despite 98% of pedestrians being injured on the pavement by a motor vehicle as opposed to 2% by cyclists. Neither should be acceptable, but the stench of hypocrisy is overpowering when the far more dangerous activity is accepted.[/p][/quote]I'm not a cyclist but i regularly run on pavements around Southbourne, Tuckton, Christchurch. I've never really understood what I see as an over-reaction when it comes to cycling on pavements. On an average 1hr run it's unlikely I'll see one cyclist on the pavement whereas during a 1hr drive in my car I'd probably come across at-least five people either tailgating, being on the phone, texting, significantly speeding etc. Both issues raise lots of comments on this website however the number of negative comments relating to cycling on pavements for some reason seem disproportionally high considering a cyclist on a pavement is pretty harmless. I don't think the accident rates justify any pro-active action by the Police and rightly so. If I do run past them I don't feel like I've just had a close brush with death. Perhaps it's the elderly who understandably feel more vulnerable but then how many actual injuries result from someone cycling on a pavement. Let's not forgot this incident is an assault, nothing to do with cycling. When I go cycling with my 8 year old daughter (which isn't often) she will often ride on the pavement while I cycle on the road. I've told her to respect pedestrians and to stop if she can't give one a wide berth. When she's old enough to cycle to school I tell her to carry on cycling on pavements because the roads in 2014 aren't like when I went to school in the 80's. There is 20x more traffic on the roads because kids don't walk or cycle to school anymore. The roads are jammed and unfortunately many of the drivers have their heads staring at their phones between their legs, and not on the road ahead. If anyone thinks I'm going to let my daughter share the road with cars that are a hairs width from being out of control they're mistaken. It's simply not going to happen. Maybe people resent seeing someone openly committing what they feel is an illegal act so blatantly. Personally when I see someone cycling on the pavement, then I look at cars on the road and see someone driving past at 30mph while staring down at their knees, I find it pretty hard to condemn the cyclist because they are a million times less likely to kill someone than the car driver. ragj195
  • Score: 5

6:51pm Mon 21 Apr 14

breamoreboy says...

ragj195 wrote:
DanWeston wrote:
GeorgeW64 wrote:
Has no one who commented on here NEVER cycled on a pavement then ? Let him who is without sin cast the first stone.
Has anyone who has commented on here NEVER driven or parked on a pavement?

Let he who is without sin cast the first stone...

Note how the previous ranters about pavement cycling hall accept this practice and refuse to condemn it despite 98% of pedestrians being injured on the pavement by a motor vehicle as opposed to 2% by cyclists.

Neither should be acceptable, but the stench of hypocrisy is overpowering when the far more dangerous activity is accepted.
I'm not a cyclist but i regularly run on pavements around Southbourne, Tuckton, Christchurch. I've never really understood what I see as an over-reaction when it comes to cycling on pavements. On an average 1hr run it's unlikely I'll see one cyclist on the pavement whereas during a 1hr drive in my car I'd probably come across at-least five people either tailgating, being on the phone, texting, significantly speeding etc. Both issues raise lots of comments on this website however the number of negative comments relating to cycling on pavements for some reason seem disproportionally high considering a cyclist on a pavement is pretty harmless. I don't think the accident rates justify any pro-active action by the Police and rightly so.

If I do run past them I don't feel like I've just had a close brush with death. Perhaps it's the elderly who understandably feel more vulnerable but then how many actual injuries result from someone cycling on a pavement. Let's not forgot this incident is an assault, nothing to do with cycling.

When I go cycling with my 8 year old daughter (which isn't often) she will often ride on the pavement while I cycle on the road. I've told her to respect pedestrians and to stop if she can't give one a wide berth. When she's old enough to cycle to school I tell her to carry on cycling on pavements because the roads in 2014 aren't like when I went to school in the 80's. There is 20x more traffic on the roads because kids don't walk or cycle to school anymore. The roads are jammed and unfortunately many of the drivers have their heads staring at their phones between their legs, and not on the road ahead. If anyone thinks I'm going to let my daughter share the road with cars that are a hairs width from being out of control they're mistaken. It's simply not going to happen.

Maybe people resent seeing someone openly committing what they feel is an illegal act so blatantly. Personally when I see someone cycling on the pavement, then I look at cars on the road and see someone driving past at 30mph while staring down at their knees, I find it pretty hard to condemn the cyclist because they are a million times less likely to kill someone than the car driver.
Blimey, common sense, and there I was thinking I was on the Bournemouth Echo website.
[quote][p][bold]ragj195[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DanWeston[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]GeorgeW64[/bold] wrote: Has no one who commented on here NEVER cycled on a pavement then ? Let him who is without sin cast the first stone.[/p][/quote]Has anyone who has commented on here NEVER driven or parked on a pavement? Let he who is without sin cast the first stone... Note how the previous ranters about pavement cycling hall accept this practice and refuse to condemn it despite 98% of pedestrians being injured on the pavement by a motor vehicle as opposed to 2% by cyclists. Neither should be acceptable, but the stench of hypocrisy is overpowering when the far more dangerous activity is accepted.[/p][/quote]I'm not a cyclist but i regularly run on pavements around Southbourne, Tuckton, Christchurch. I've never really understood what I see as an over-reaction when it comes to cycling on pavements. On an average 1hr run it's unlikely I'll see one cyclist on the pavement whereas during a 1hr drive in my car I'd probably come across at-least five people either tailgating, being on the phone, texting, significantly speeding etc. Both issues raise lots of comments on this website however the number of negative comments relating to cycling on pavements for some reason seem disproportionally high considering a cyclist on a pavement is pretty harmless. I don't think the accident rates justify any pro-active action by the Police and rightly so. If I do run past them I don't feel like I've just had a close brush with death. Perhaps it's the elderly who understandably feel more vulnerable but then how many actual injuries result from someone cycling on a pavement. Let's not forgot this incident is an assault, nothing to do with cycling. When I go cycling with my 8 year old daughter (which isn't often) she will often ride on the pavement while I cycle on the road. I've told her to respect pedestrians and to stop if she can't give one a wide berth. When she's old enough to cycle to school I tell her to carry on cycling on pavements because the roads in 2014 aren't like when I went to school in the 80's. There is 20x more traffic on the roads because kids don't walk or cycle to school anymore. The roads are jammed and unfortunately many of the drivers have their heads staring at their phones between their legs, and not on the road ahead. If anyone thinks I'm going to let my daughter share the road with cars that are a hairs width from being out of control they're mistaken. It's simply not going to happen. Maybe people resent seeing someone openly committing what they feel is an illegal act so blatantly. Personally when I see someone cycling on the pavement, then I look at cars on the road and see someone driving past at 30mph while staring down at their knees, I find it pretty hard to condemn the cyclist because they are a million times less likely to kill someone than the car driver.[/p][/quote]Blimey, common sense, and there I was thinking I was on the Bournemouth Echo website. breamoreboy
  • Score: 3

10:15pm Mon 21 Apr 14

Hobad1 says...

Its great to see that the Bournemouth Sicko/Echo has decided to remove my comments criticising cyclists. Proves what a worthless publication it is. Hey cyclists...do what you want, as the Errorco will only publish what they feel is appropriate. Pathetic newspaper.
Its great to see that the Bournemouth Sicko/Echo has decided to remove my comments criticising cyclists. Proves what a worthless publication it is. Hey cyclists...do what you want, as the Errorco will only publish what they feel is appropriate. Pathetic newspaper. Hobad1
  • Score: -5

10:34pm Mon 21 Apr 14

Hobad1 says...

nickynoodah wrote:
I wouldn't knowingly walk down the same street as stinky nobath
let alone knock him into the gutter ,he hates me you know,
you know.
Everyone hates you.
[quote][p][bold]nickynoodah[/bold] wrote: I wouldn't knowingly walk down the same street as stinky nobath let alone knock him into the gutter ,he hates me you know, you know.[/p][/quote]Everyone hates you. Hobad1
  • Score: 2

11:56am Tue 22 Apr 14

FNS-man says...

breamoreboy wrote:
ragj195 wrote:
DanWeston wrote:
GeorgeW64 wrote: Has no one who commented on here NEVER cycled on a pavement then ? Let him who is without sin cast the first stone.
Has anyone who has commented on here NEVER driven or parked on a pavement? Let he who is without sin cast the first stone... Note how the previous ranters about pavement cycling hall accept this practice and refuse to condemn it despite 98% of pedestrians being injured on the pavement by a motor vehicle as opposed to 2% by cyclists. Neither should be acceptable, but the stench of hypocrisy is overpowering when the far more dangerous activity is accepted.
I'm not a cyclist but i regularly run on pavements around Southbourne, Tuckton, Christchurch. I've never really understood what I see as an over-reaction when it comes to cycling on pavements. On an average 1hr run it's unlikely I'll see one cyclist on the pavement whereas during a 1hr drive in my car I'd probably come across at-least five people either tailgating, being on the phone, texting, significantly speeding etc. Both issues raise lots of comments on this website however the number of negative comments relating to cycling on pavements for some reason seem disproportionally high considering a cyclist on a pavement is pretty harmless. I don't think the accident rates justify any pro-active action by the Police and rightly so. If I do run past them I don't feel like I've just had a close brush with death. Perhaps it's the elderly who understandably feel more vulnerable but then how many actual injuries result from someone cycling on a pavement. Let's not forgot this incident is an assault, nothing to do with cycling. When I go cycling with my 8 year old daughter (which isn't often) she will often ride on the pavement while I cycle on the road. I've told her to respect pedestrians and to stop if she can't give one a wide berth. When she's old enough to cycle to school I tell her to carry on cycling on pavements because the roads in 2014 aren't like when I went to school in the 80's. There is 20x more traffic on the roads because kids don't walk or cycle to school anymore. The roads are jammed and unfortunately many of the drivers have their heads staring at their phones between their legs, and not on the road ahead. If anyone thinks I'm going to let my daughter share the road with cars that are a hairs width from being out of control they're mistaken. It's simply not going to happen. Maybe people resent seeing someone openly committing what they feel is an illegal act so blatantly. Personally when I see someone cycling on the pavement, then I look at cars on the road and see someone driving past at 30mph while staring down at their knees, I find it pretty hard to condemn the cyclist because they are a million times less likely to kill someone than the car driver.
Blimey, common sense, and there I was thinking I was on the Bournemouth Echo website.
Indeed. And week after week we see pedestrians being killed by cars. And no-one really seems to think it's a problem.
[quote][p][bold]breamoreboy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ragj195[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DanWeston[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]GeorgeW64[/bold] wrote: Has no one who commented on here NEVER cycled on a pavement then ? Let him who is without sin cast the first stone.[/p][/quote]Has anyone who has commented on here NEVER driven or parked on a pavement? Let he who is without sin cast the first stone... Note how the previous ranters about pavement cycling hall accept this practice and refuse to condemn it despite 98% of pedestrians being injured on the pavement by a motor vehicle as opposed to 2% by cyclists. Neither should be acceptable, but the stench of hypocrisy is overpowering when the far more dangerous activity is accepted.[/p][/quote]I'm not a cyclist but i regularly run on pavements around Southbourne, Tuckton, Christchurch. I've never really understood what I see as an over-reaction when it comes to cycling on pavements. On an average 1hr run it's unlikely I'll see one cyclist on the pavement whereas during a 1hr drive in my car I'd probably come across at-least five people either tailgating, being on the phone, texting, significantly speeding etc. Both issues raise lots of comments on this website however the number of negative comments relating to cycling on pavements for some reason seem disproportionally high considering a cyclist on a pavement is pretty harmless. I don't think the accident rates justify any pro-active action by the Police and rightly so. If I do run past them I don't feel like I've just had a close brush with death. Perhaps it's the elderly who understandably feel more vulnerable but then how many actual injuries result from someone cycling on a pavement. Let's not forgot this incident is an assault, nothing to do with cycling. When I go cycling with my 8 year old daughter (which isn't often) she will often ride on the pavement while I cycle on the road. I've told her to respect pedestrians and to stop if she can't give one a wide berth. When she's old enough to cycle to school I tell her to carry on cycling on pavements because the roads in 2014 aren't like when I went to school in the 80's. There is 20x more traffic on the roads because kids don't walk or cycle to school anymore. The roads are jammed and unfortunately many of the drivers have their heads staring at their phones between their legs, and not on the road ahead. If anyone thinks I'm going to let my daughter share the road with cars that are a hairs width from being out of control they're mistaken. It's simply not going to happen. Maybe people resent seeing someone openly committing what they feel is an illegal act so blatantly. Personally when I see someone cycling on the pavement, then I look at cars on the road and see someone driving past at 30mph while staring down at their knees, I find it pretty hard to condemn the cyclist because they are a million times less likely to kill someone than the car driver.[/p][/quote]Blimey, common sense, and there I was thinking I was on the Bournemouth Echo website.[/p][/quote]Indeed. And week after week we see pedestrians being killed by cars. And no-one really seems to think it's a problem. FNS-man
  • Score: 3

9:25pm Tue 22 Apr 14

Sazzielou says...

I think what people seem to be forgetting is that someone got assaulted not just ridden by but purposely attacked. Rather than moaning about road tax etc show some compassion for the man who was attacked and his family.
I think what people seem to be forgetting is that someone got assaulted not just ridden by but purposely attacked. Rather than moaning about road tax etc show some compassion for the man who was attacked and his family. Sazzielou
  • Score: 3

9:55pm Tue 22 Apr 14

LJT1966 says...

How soon the tradegy in Charminster has been forgotten?? This so easily could have ended the same way. What is the matter with these idiot cyclists??? Hope they catch him and throw the book at him but sadly think he will get a slap on the wrist. Best wishes to the gentleman injured - wishing you a speedy recovery.
How soon the tradegy in Charminster has been forgotten?? This so easily could have ended the same way. What is the matter with these idiot cyclists??? Hope they catch him and throw the book at him but sadly think he will get a slap on the wrist. Best wishes to the gentleman injured - wishing you a speedy recovery. LJT1966
  • Score: -1

11:51pm Tue 22 Apr 14

christimemachine says...

The Police just can't be bothered with cyclists. Cycling on pavements should be treated as an endorsement licence offence, if they don't hold a licence, the endorsement should be held on file or something similar. Cycling on the pavement is not an *accidental offence*, such as speeding. Pedestrians should be safe on the pavement. It also gives all a huge amount of disrespect for the Law and the law enforcers such as the Police, who often drive past, pavement cyclists, condoning this behavior. I guess a few cyclists have cycled past the big Police Box at Boscombe. They could alternatively change the law that all cyclists should cycle on the pavements or just remove the pavements. My worry being I have an 85 year old mother and I do worry about her getting run down on the pavement, as she is not always aware of fast moving cyclists approaching her.
The Police just can't be bothered with cyclists. Cycling on pavements should be treated as an endorsement licence offence, if they don't hold a licence, the endorsement should be held on file or something similar. Cycling on the pavement is not an *accidental offence*, such as speeding. Pedestrians should be safe on the pavement. It also gives all a huge amount of disrespect for the Law and the law enforcers such as the Police, who often drive past, pavement cyclists, condoning this behavior. I guess a few cyclists have cycled past the big Police Box at Boscombe. They could alternatively change the law that all cyclists should cycle on the pavements or just remove the pavements. My worry being I have an 85 year old mother and I do worry about her getting run down on the pavement, as she is not always aware of fast moving cyclists approaching her. christimemachine
  • Score: -1

4:58am Wed 23 Apr 14

guisselle says...

Mobility scooters can be a menace, maybe we should have pavement law
or at least etiquette for pedestrians. Everyone should walk in single file
and be aware that at any moment bat-man will appear on a bike or a scooter
skateboards also present a hazard especially in Poole bus station!
Mobility scooters can be a menace, maybe we should have pavement law or at least etiquette for pedestrians. Everyone should walk in single file and be aware that at any moment bat-man will appear on a bike or a scooter skateboards also present a hazard especially in Poole bus station! guisselle
  • Score: 1

8:05pm Wed 23 Apr 14

DanWeston says...

christimemachine wrote:
The Police just can't be bothered with cyclists. Cycling on pavements should be treated as an endorsement licence offence, if they don't hold a licence, the endorsement should be held on file or something similar. Cycling on the pavement is not an *accidental offence*, such as speeding. Pedestrians should be safe on the pavement. It also gives all a huge amount of disrespect for the Law and the law enforcers such as the Police, who often drive past, pavement cyclists, condoning this behavior. I guess a few cyclists have cycled past the big Police Box at Boscombe. They could alternatively change the law that all cyclists should cycle on the pavements or just remove the pavements. My worry being I have an 85 year old mother and I do worry about her getting run down on the pavement, as she is not always aware of fast moving cyclists approaching her.
The Police just can't be bothered with motorists. Parking on pavements should be treated as an endorsement licence offence,

Parking on the pavement is not an *accidental offence*, such as speeding. Pedestrians should be safe on the pavement. It also gives all a huge amount of disrespect for the Law and the law enforcers such as the Police, who often drive past cars parked on the pavement, condoning this behavior.

They could alternatively change the law that all motorists should park on the pavements or just remove the pavements.

My worry being I have a partially sighted 90 year old mother in law and a disabled wife is that one is not aware of motor vehicles obstructing her path, and both regularly have their safety jeopardised as they often have to retrace their tracks to a dropped kerb and then negotiate oncoming traffic when forced to use the road to avoid the vehicle obstructing the pavement
[quote][p][bold]christimemachine[/bold] wrote: The Police just can't be bothered with cyclists. Cycling on pavements should be treated as an endorsement licence offence, if they don't hold a licence, the endorsement should be held on file or something similar. Cycling on the pavement is not an *accidental offence*, such as speeding. Pedestrians should be safe on the pavement. It also gives all a huge amount of disrespect for the Law and the law enforcers such as the Police, who often drive past, pavement cyclists, condoning this behavior. I guess a few cyclists have cycled past the big Police Box at Boscombe. They could alternatively change the law that all cyclists should cycle on the pavements or just remove the pavements. My worry being I have an 85 year old mother and I do worry about her getting run down on the pavement, as she is not always aware of fast moving cyclists approaching her.[/p][/quote]The Police just can't be bothered with motorists. Parking on pavements should be treated as an endorsement licence offence, Parking on the pavement is not an *accidental offence*, such as speeding. Pedestrians should be safe on the pavement. It also gives all a huge amount of disrespect for the Law and the law enforcers such as the Police, who often drive past cars parked on the pavement, condoning this behavior. They could alternatively change the law that all motorists should park on the pavements or just remove the pavements. My worry being I have a partially sighted 90 year old mother in law and a disabled wife is that one is not aware of motor vehicles obstructing her path, and both regularly have their safety jeopardised as they often have to retrace their tracks to a dropped kerb and then negotiate oncoming traffic when forced to use the road to avoid the vehicle obstructing the pavement DanWeston
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