Condor Ferries could switch to Poole from Weymouth when it brings in bigger vessels, report reveals

Weymouth's loss could be Poole's gain on the high seas

Weymouth's loss could be Poole's gain on the high seas

Borough of Poole leader Cllr Elaine Atkinson

First published in News

CONDOR Ferries is set to move its operation to Poole next year because its new boats won't fit its current home.

The Daily Echo has learnt that the future of the firm in Weymouth remains uncertain following plans to replace its existing vessels with a new and larger hydrofoil.

A Weymouth and Portland Borough Council report revealed that Condor has rejected using the refurbished No 3 Berth in Weymouth port due to the size of the new vessel, despite £4m worth of repair works just being spent on the harbour wall.

It says that the ferry firm favours using No 1 Berth, which will need £10 million to make it fit for purpose.

That has left the cash-strapped council debating its next move - and means that Poole is likely to benefit for at least a year, if not longer.

If work on No 1 berth went ahead, Condor would switch its cross-Channel sailings to Poole for the 2015 season and return to Weymouth the following year.

Last night, Elaine Atkinson, leader of Borough of Poole, said: “We would be delighted for Poole, but sorry for Weymouth's loss.

“We've been working really hard to enhance the port in Poole and this could only add to that.

“It would bring significant sums to our local economy and it will at least be staying in Dorset.”

Weymouth borough councillor Ian Bruce confirmed the contents of the confidential report, which was shown to councillors, and revealed that the move had sparked problems between the council and Condor.

Cllr Bruce said it was thought a deposit has already been put down on the new hydrofoil.

Captain Fran Collins, ports and guests services director at Condor Ferries, said: “We are considering options for a new vessel in the fleet and are engaging in discussions with all ports across our network of routes between the UK, Channel Islands and France.”

Sailings are currently bookable up until March 24, 2015, she added.

IN November last year, councillors heard that Condor Ferries was set to sign a 15-year contract to use Weymouth as its main route to and from the Channel Islands.

Condor switched to Poole for 17 months while Weymouth's crumbling quay was repaired in a project worth more than £4million. As Weymouth port's biggest customer, Condor - which returned last July - brings at least £7.7million a year to the local economy.

Condor revealed it was planning to bring in a new vessel to sail out of Weymouth in April 2015, but concerns have now been raised about the ferry firm's demands.

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6:57am Thu 17 Apr 14

Huey says...

Nice one Poole, better idea than Weymouth anyway.
Nice one Poole, better idea than Weymouth anyway. Huey
  • Score: 10

7:31am Thu 17 Apr 14

Derf says...

PHC only have 2 ferry berths at the docks one of which is too small for the current ferries that berth there (the ferry companies currently try to arrange their schedules so both boats aren't in Poole at the same time to avoid having to anchor in the bay). Be interesting to see how they plan to accomodate 3 vessels...
PHC only have 2 ferry berths at the docks one of which is too small for the current ferries that berth there (the ferry companies currently try to arrange their schedules so both boats aren't in Poole at the same time to avoid having to anchor in the bay). Be interesting to see how they plan to accomodate 3 vessels... Derf
  • Score: 8

8:04am Thu 17 Apr 14

Redgolfer says...

Does not matter to me where they go because I will not be on any of those ''TUBS'' only time in 67 years I have been sea sick was on one of those last year going to Jersey, I reckon 95% of passengers where ill that day ???
Does not matter to me where they go because I will not be on any of those ''TUBS'' only time in 67 years I have been sea sick was on one of those last year going to Jersey, I reckon 95% of passengers where ill that day ??? Redgolfer
  • Score: -12

8:27am Thu 17 Apr 14

Lord Spring says...

Redgolfer wrote:
Does not matter to me where they go because I will not be on any of those ''TUBS'' only time in 67 years I have been sea sick was on one of those last year going to Jersey, I reckon 95% of passengers where ill that day ???
You used to hang over the rail going to the IoW LOL.
[quote][p][bold]Redgolfer[/bold] wrote: Does not matter to me where they go because I will not be on any of those ''TUBS'' only time in 67 years I have been sea sick was on one of those last year going to Jersey, I reckon 95% of passengers where ill that day ???[/p][/quote]You used to hang over the rail going to the IoW LOL. Lord Spring
  • Score: 8

8:39am Thu 17 Apr 14

misplacedspaniard says...

Redgolfer wrote:
Does not matter to me where they go because I will not be on any of those ''TUBS'' only time in 67 years I have been sea sick was on one of those last year going to Jersey, I reckon 95% of passengers where ill that day ???
My uncle used to work for p&ostena in the engine room. They used to nickname those catamarans 'the vomit comet'
[quote][p][bold]Redgolfer[/bold] wrote: Does not matter to me where they go because I will not be on any of those ''TUBS'' only time in 67 years I have been sea sick was on one of those last year going to Jersey, I reckon 95% of passengers where ill that day ???[/p][/quote]My uncle used to work for p&ostena in the engine room. They used to nickname those catamarans 'the vomit comet' misplacedspaniard
  • Score: 0

8:39am Thu 17 Apr 14

Mad Karew says...

I see Atkinson's putting out her usual meaningless tripe, as usual she's contributed nothing to any economic benefit this will bring to Poole.

Poole will be much better off when she's gone.
I see Atkinson's putting out her usual meaningless tripe, as usual she's contributed nothing to any economic benefit this will bring to Poole. Poole will be much better off when she's gone. Mad Karew
  • Score: 14

8:57am Thu 17 Apr 14

60plus says...

More traffic for the A31 great,but great news for Poole their roads can really take the extra traffic .
More traffic for the A31 great,but great news for Poole their roads can really take the extra traffic . 60plus
  • Score: -1

9:28am Thu 17 Apr 14

KLH says...

With regard to the word hydrofoil, do they actually mean trimaran? The Austal one?

Poole os going to be brimming with ferries - great!!
With regard to the word hydrofoil, do they actually mean trimaran? The Austal one? Poole os going to be brimming with ferries - great!! KLH
  • Score: 9

9:35am Thu 17 Apr 14

BmthNewshound says...

Condor must have known that they would be taking delivery of larger vessels when Weymouth Council spent £4m repairing berth 3, didn't anyone think to advise the council that their money would be better spent making berth 1 suitable for the new ferries ?.
Condor must have known that they would be taking delivery of larger vessels when Weymouth Council spent £4m repairing berth 3, didn't anyone think to advise the council that their money would be better spent making berth 1 suitable for the new ferries ?. BmthNewshound
  • Score: 8

10:16am Thu 17 Apr 14

speedy231278 says...

No idea what the OP is moaning about, I've been on the 'Vomit Comet' to Jersey and it was more like you were floating above the water rather than on it!
No idea what the OP is moaning about, I've been on the 'Vomit Comet' to Jersey and it was more like you were floating above the water rather than on it! speedy231278
  • Score: 9

10:54am Thu 17 Apr 14

KLH says...

Vomit Comet is more often applicable to when there is bad weather. I have been on both the Condor ferries and the Brittany Ferries Normandie Express, which is another high speed vessel. Both times were fine weather, and the ships were incredibly comfortable, just as in conventional ships. They are known to bump around a bit in rougher seas and this is where the expression comes from. You don't feel a thing when the sea is nice and calm.
Vomit Comet is more often applicable to when there is bad weather. I have been on both the Condor ferries and the Brittany Ferries Normandie Express, which is another high speed vessel. Both times were fine weather, and the ships were incredibly comfortable, just as in conventional ships. They are known to bump around a bit in rougher seas and this is where the expression comes from. You don't feel a thing when the sea is nice and calm. KLH
  • Score: 6

1:01pm Thu 17 Apr 14

MattGillett says...

Derf wrote:
PHC only have 2 ferry berths at the docks one of which is too small for the current ferries that berth there (the ferry companies currently try to arrange their schedules so both boats aren't in Poole at the same time to avoid having to anchor in the bay). Be interesting to see how they plan to accomodate 3 vessels...
In Dover they have 67 ferries per day, with nine docks; an average of 7.5 visits each. If the logistics are set up correctly they should be ok.
[quote][p][bold]Derf[/bold] wrote: PHC only have 2 ferry berths at the docks one of which is too small for the current ferries that berth there (the ferry companies currently try to arrange their schedules so both boats aren't in Poole at the same time to avoid having to anchor in the bay). Be interesting to see how they plan to accomodate 3 vessels...[/p][/quote]In Dover they have 67 ferries per day, with nine docks; an average of 7.5 visits each. If the logistics are set up correctly they should be ok. MattGillett
  • Score: 5

1:22pm Thu 17 Apr 14

Mad Karew says...

PHC actually have another larger berth, Ro-Ro1, which is unused at the moment and is being used as a mini-marina. It wouldn't be too difficult to bring that back into use by moving the pontoons elsewhere.
PHC actually have another larger berth, Ro-Ro1, which is unused at the moment and is being used as a mini-marina. It wouldn't be too difficult to bring that back into use by moving the pontoons elsewhere. Mad Karew
  • Score: 5

2:00pm Thu 17 Apr 14

KLH says...

High speed vessels are probably easier to 'park' somewhere than conventionals, they will need the berths to load and unload, but outside of those times they can berth elsewhere, easier for them to find somewhere else without having to 'sleep' out in the Bay like Barfleur and the Norman Asturius, they have to share a berth. from the Open Day, it is quite easy for the HSCs to come over to the Quay, something the conventionals can't do. Or can they - thinking of depth.
High speed vessels are probably easier to 'park' somewhere than conventionals, they will need the berths to load and unload, but outside of those times they can berth elsewhere, easier for them to find somewhere else without having to 'sleep' out in the Bay like Barfleur and the Norman Asturius, they have to share a berth. from the Open Day, it is quite easy for the HSCs to come over to the Quay, something the conventionals can't do. Or can they - thinking of depth. KLH
  • Score: 2

2:23pm Thu 17 Apr 14

Letcommonsenseprevail says...

Atkinson getting in on the act again - what the hell does it have to do with her - she will have no influence on the decision.

And get a better picture.
Atkinson getting in on the act again - what the hell does it have to do with her - she will have no influence on the decision. And get a better picture. Letcommonsenseprevail
  • Score: 3

5:02pm Thu 17 Apr 14

Mike R-B says...

KLH wrote:
High speed vessels are probably easier to 'park' somewhere than conventionals, they will need the berths to load and unload, but outside of those times they can berth elsewhere, easier for them to find somewhere else without having to 'sleep' out in the Bay like Barfleur and the Norman Asturius, they have to share a berth. from the Open Day, it is quite easy for the HSCs to come over to the Quay, something the conventionals can't do. Or can they - thinking of depth.
Don't think too deeply but try Rockley Pier with it's "free" car parking and good loos !
[quote][p][bold]KLH[/bold] wrote: High speed vessels are probably easier to 'park' somewhere than conventionals, they will need the berths to load and unload, but outside of those times they can berth elsewhere, easier for them to find somewhere else without having to 'sleep' out in the Bay like Barfleur and the Norman Asturius, they have to share a berth. from the Open Day, it is quite easy for the HSCs to come over to the Quay, something the conventionals can't do. Or can they - thinking of depth.[/p][/quote]Don't think too deeply but try Rockley Pier with it's "free" car parking and good loos ! Mike R-B
  • Score: 0

6:12pm Thu 17 Apr 14

nickynoodah says...

There is NO PIER AT ROCKLEY you CLOWN go back to bed george
There is NO PIER AT ROCKLEY you CLOWN go back to bed george nickynoodah
  • Score: -3

6:16pm Thu 17 Apr 14

nickynoodah says...

Redgolfer wrote:
Does not matter to me where they go because I will not be on any of those ''TUBS'' only time in 67 years I have been sea sick was on one of those last year going to Jersey, I reckon 95% of passengers where ill that day ???
So it was you who spread the Delhi belly .... no surprise there then george
[quote][p][bold]Redgolfer[/bold] wrote: Does not matter to me where they go because I will not be on any of those ''TUBS'' only time in 67 years I have been sea sick was on one of those last year going to Jersey, I reckon 95% of passengers where ill that day ???[/p][/quote]So it was you who spread the Delhi belly .... no surprise there then george nickynoodah
  • Score: -2

10:27pm Thu 17 Apr 14

BIGTONE says...

Better kiss some botty
Better kiss some botty BIGTONE
  • Score: -1

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