War of words breaks out over Wiggle cycle event after posters warn of ‘risk to public’

War of words breaks out over Wiggle cycle event after posters warn of ‘risk to public’

CONTROVERSIAL: Riders on a previous Wiggle event

WARNING: The poster

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A BITTER row has broken out in the New Forest as the area braces itself for the first mass cycling event of the year.

Both sides in the debate have gone on the offensive ahead of the two-day Wiggle New Forest Spring Sportive, which starts tomorrow.

More than 2,000 cyclists have entered the event, sparking fears that the forest will witness a repeat of the problems experienced last year.

Cyclists were accused of endangering the safety of walkers and horseriders, swearing at motorists and even defecating at the roadside.

Now opponents of the latest event have published posters urging residents to alert the authorities if any of the entrants cause trouble.

The posters list 15 towns and villages across the forest where critics claim incidents could occur over the weekend.

They add: “This notice is to alert local residents and visitors to the New Forest of this abuse of our tranquil locality and warn that this event could put members of the public at risk as they go about their daily lives.”

The sell-out ride has also come under fire from the New Forest Equestrian Association.

Chairman Tony Hockley said: “Many people will obviously be unable to avoid using parts of the route while the event takes place.

“They will need to take very great care as there will be a fast moving stream of entrants for several hours each day.”

But cyclists have hit back in a series of Tweets defending the event and accusing its opponents of Nimbyism.

Rod Howell Tweeted: “Some of the words in that (poster) are disgraceful.

“Staying away this year.”

Another Tweeter said: “The allegations against cyclists have no basis in fact whatsoever. Utter fiction.”

Most of the previous Wiggle rides were based in the Brockenhurst area, but organisers were banned from the site last year.

As reported in the Daily Echo, this weekend’s event is starting from Matchams Leisure Park, near Ringwood.

Cyclists have a choice of two routes – one of 84 miles and one of 62. The UK Cycling Events website says: “Riding with 2,000+ like-minded riders will ensure you have a magical experience.”

Wiggle boss Martin Barden sought to calm fears surrounding the event when he addressed a meeting of Ringwood Town Council last month.

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5:22am Fri 11 Apr 14

Ash_69 says...

Cyclists out.

The New Forest should be for locals only. Horse riding and hunting comes first.

I'm more important than you and live in Burley so listen to me!!

Off to the hardware shop later this morning then for me...









;)
Cyclists out. The New Forest should be for locals only. Horse riding and hunting comes first. I'm more important than you and live in Burley so listen to me!! Off to the hardware shop later this morning then for me... ;) Ash_69
  • Score: -11

5:29am Fri 11 Apr 14

Ash_69 says...

Echo, please add this photo to your story from some other locals -

https://m.flickr.com
/#/photos/downfader/
13720958055/
Echo, please add this photo to your story from some other locals - https://m.flickr.com /#/photos/downfader/ 13720958055/ Ash_69
  • Score: 15

7:34am Fri 11 Apr 14

Mangiafuoco says...

Lock up your women and daughters!!! The men in lycra are coming!!!!!.......
Lock up your women and daughters!!! The men in lycra are coming!!!!!....... Mangiafuoco
  • Score: 21

7:58am Fri 11 Apr 14

itsneverblackorwhite says...

Well most of the dog walkers have been scared off by Alabama Rot or nails in sausages, so go ahead and annoy cyclists as well then with a bit of luck nobody will visit the New Forest and in no time at all businesses and local economy will disappear!
Well most of the dog walkers have been scared off by Alabama Rot or nails in sausages, so go ahead and annoy cyclists as well then with a bit of luck nobody will visit the New Forest and in no time at all businesses and local economy will disappear! itsneverblackorwhite
  • Score: 48

8:10am Fri 11 Apr 14

breamoreboy says...

Ash_69 wrote:
Echo, please add this photo to your story from some other locals -

https://m.flickr.com

/#/photos/downfader/

13720958055/
Awesome :)
[quote][p][bold]Ash_69[/bold] wrote: Echo, please add this photo to your story from some other locals - https://m.flickr.com /#/photos/downfader/ 13720958055/[/p][/quote]Awesome :) breamoreboy
  • Score: 6

8:38am Fri 11 Apr 14

Hessenford says...

Another Tweeter said: “The allegations against cyclists have no basis in fact whatsoever. Utter fiction.”
.
Self denial as usual from the lycra suited brigade.
Have a look at http://www.youtube.c
om/results?search_qu
ery=york+cyclists on you tube, plenty of evidence there on the stupidity of some people on two wheels.
Another Tweeter said: “The allegations against cyclists have no basis in fact whatsoever. Utter fiction.” . Self denial as usual from the lycra suited brigade. Have a look at http://www.youtube.c om/results?search_qu ery=york+cyclists on you tube, plenty of evidence there on the stupidity of some people on two wheels. Hessenford
  • Score: -20

8:44am Fri 11 Apr 14

anotherfatslob says...

It's their own fault for wearing helmets,they make you look alien.

Dress as a normal person on a bike and you'll be treated as one.

Dress as some weird alien and you'll be treated like one.

Drive a car,and you're obviously a selfish idiot.
It's their own fault for wearing helmets,they make you look alien. Dress as a normal person on a bike and you'll be treated as one. Dress as some weird alien and you'll be treated like one. Drive a car,and you're obviously a selfish idiot. anotherfatslob
  • Score: 0

9:11am Fri 11 Apr 14

suzigirl says...

All cyclists obey the law at all times, are a very friendly bunch of people, are not abusive and only cycle on the roads and cycle lanes - utter fiction......
All cyclists obey the law at all times, are a very friendly bunch of people, are not abusive and only cycle on the roads and cycle lanes - utter fiction...... suzigirl
  • Score: -26

9:12am Fri 11 Apr 14

Theo63 says...

When will people learn to live together in harmony!

I'm sure it's a small percentage of people who live in the New Forest who are objecting and I suspect some of them are "persistent/vexatiou
s complainants!

It would be good if we could harness and channel their energy into fighting causes that really do matter!
When will people learn to live together in harmony! I'm sure it's a small percentage of people who live in the New Forest who are objecting and I suspect some of them are "persistent/vexatiou s complainants! It would be good if we could harness and channel their energy into fighting causes that really do matter! Theo63
  • Score: 40

9:13am Fri 11 Apr 14

Scarecrow52 says...

The objections to this event have nothing to do with nimbyism, it has everything to do with access to our homes and safety.
3,000 cyclists is a huge number, particularly when he stated that it would be closer to 2,000 at a recent RTC meeting.
It's way to big, with cyclists not going to abide by the laws of the road as they are being timed and therefore it must constitute a 'race' and therefore should the roads be closed for this event?
Mr Barden will generate huge amount of income from this event and, I suspect, very little of it will make the coffers of the NFNP or surrounding area, not from him anyway, might be a few b&b's that benefit.
It's wrong and it's done for profit only.
The objections to this event have nothing to do with nimbyism, it has everything to do with access to our homes and safety. 3,000 cyclists is a huge number, particularly when he stated that it would be closer to 2,000 at a recent RTC meeting. It's way to big, with cyclists not going to abide by the laws of the road as they are being timed and therefore it must constitute a 'race' and therefore should the roads be closed for this event? Mr Barden will generate huge amount of income from this event and, I suspect, very little of it will make the coffers of the NFNP or surrounding area, not from him anyway, might be a few b&b's that benefit. It's wrong and it's done for profit only. Scarecrow52
  • Score: -15

9:17am Fri 11 Apr 14

Franks Tank says...

Ash_69 wrote:
Echo, please add this photo to your story from some other locals -

https://m.flickr.com

/#/photos/downfader/

13720958055/
Very good, unfortunately the irony will be lost on them.
[quote][p][bold]Ash_69[/bold] wrote: Echo, please add this photo to your story from some other locals - https://m.flickr.com /#/photos/downfader/ 13720958055/[/p][/quote]Very good, unfortunately the irony will be lost on them. Franks Tank
  • Score: 13

9:20am Fri 11 Apr 14

uvox44 says...

weird how these people never complain about the New Forest hunt - now they are people with a record recklessly ignoring others property and generally being a menace- guess the feudal mentality is alive and kicking !
weird how these people never complain about the New Forest hunt - now they are people with a record recklessly ignoring others property and generally being a menace- guess the feudal mentality is alive and kicking ! uvox44
  • Score: 39

9:21am Fri 11 Apr 14

sfby says...

Scarecrow52 wrote:
The objections to this event have nothing to do with nimbyism, it has everything to do with access to our homes and safety. 3,000 cyclists is a huge number, particularly when he stated that it would be closer to 2,000 at a recent RTC meeting. It's way to big, with cyclists not going to abide by the laws of the road as they are being timed and therefore it must constitute a 'race' and therefore should the roads be closed for this event? Mr Barden will generate huge amount of income from this event and, I suspect, very little of it will make the coffers of the NFNP or surrounding area, not from him anyway, might be a few b&b's that benefit. It's wrong and it's done for profit only.
According to the website a donation of £3,000 will be made to Oakhaven Hospice - that, and the income to pubs / hotels / B&Bs before the "traditional" start to the season over the Easter weekend, makes me think putting up with a minor inconvenience for a few hours is worth it.

Can any of the objectors really claim that the event is a major blight on their lives?
[quote][p][bold]Scarecrow52[/bold] wrote: The objections to this event have nothing to do with nimbyism, it has everything to do with access to our homes and safety. 3,000 cyclists is a huge number, particularly when he stated that it would be closer to 2,000 at a recent RTC meeting. It's way to big, with cyclists not going to abide by the laws of the road as they are being timed and therefore it must constitute a 'race' and therefore should the roads be closed for this event? Mr Barden will generate huge amount of income from this event and, I suspect, very little of it will make the coffers of the NFNP or surrounding area, not from him anyway, might be a few b&b's that benefit. It's wrong and it's done for profit only.[/p][/quote]According to the website a donation of £3,000 will be made to Oakhaven Hospice - that, and the income to pubs / hotels / B&Bs before the "traditional" start to the season over the Easter weekend, makes me think putting up with a minor inconvenience for a few hours is worth it. Can any of the objectors really claim that the event is a major blight on their lives? sfby
  • Score: 39

9:22am Fri 11 Apr 14

Adrian XX says...

I am a cyclist and very pro-cycling, but I think the idea of a mass time-trial on public roads is just wrong. If it were just 20 people doing a time trial it would go unnoticed and it would not upset anyone, but it will be far more than this.
I am a cyclist and very pro-cycling, but I think the idea of a mass time-trial on public roads is just wrong. If it were just 20 people doing a time trial it would go unnoticed and it would not upset anyone, but it will be far more than this. Adrian XX
  • Score: 30

9:57am Fri 11 Apr 14

In Absentia says...

When the residents of the New Forest campaigned for it to become a National Park, perhaps they failed to realise that other members of the nation might want to use it?
When the residents of the New Forest campaigned for it to become a National Park, perhaps they failed to realise that other members of the nation might want to use it? In Absentia
  • Score: 48

9:59am Fri 11 Apr 14

madras says...

Everyone, please, a little restraint. Understanding. Share our lovely forest. Room for all. Patience. Take your time. Show courtesy...

Sorry, I must have been dreaming!
Everyone, please, a little restraint. Understanding. Share our lovely forest. Room for all. Patience. Take your time. Show courtesy... Sorry, I must have been dreaming! madras
  • Score: 25

10:04am Fri 11 Apr 14

Hessenford says...

In Absentia wrote:
When the residents of the New Forest campaigned for it to become a National Park, perhaps they failed to realise that other members of the nation might want to use it?
use it not take it over.
[quote][p][bold]In Absentia[/bold] wrote: When the residents of the New Forest campaigned for it to become a National Park, perhaps they failed to realise that other members of the nation might want to use it?[/p][/quote]use it not take it over. Hessenford
  • Score: -29

10:07am Fri 11 Apr 14

Hessenford says...

Theo63 wrote:
When will people learn to live together in harmony!

I'm sure it's a small percentage of people who live in the New Forest who are objecting and I suspect some of them are "persistent/vex
atiou
s complainants!

It would be good if we could harness and channel their energy into fighting causes that really do matter!
Like stopping cyclists from taking over the New Forest.
[quote][p][bold]Theo63[/bold] wrote: When will people learn to live together in harmony! I'm sure it's a small percentage of people who live in the New Forest who are objecting and I suspect some of them are "persistent/vex atiou s complainants! It would be good if we could harness and channel their energy into fighting causes that really do matter![/p][/quote]Like stopping cyclists from taking over the New Forest. Hessenford
  • Score: -32

10:18am Fri 11 Apr 14

speedy231278 says...

Are there enough pavements in the New Forest for this many cyclists?
Are there enough pavements in the New Forest for this many cyclists? speedy231278
  • Score: -10

10:21am Fri 11 Apr 14

Dibbles2 says...

Ash_69 wrote:
Cyclists out.

The New Forest should be for locals only. Horse riding and hunting comes first.

I'm more important than you and live in Burley so listen to me!!

Off to the hardware shop later this morning then for me...









;)
Really? The residents wouldn't get far in life without the tourists putting business in their direction so your comment is either a joke and a bad one at that or you are completely narrow minded.

However I cannot see how a bike ride on speed resticted routes is a good idea in the first place.
[quote][p][bold]Ash_69[/bold] wrote: Cyclists out. The New Forest should be for locals only. Horse riding and hunting comes first. I'm more important than you and live in Burley so listen to me!! Off to the hardware shop later this morning then for me... ;)[/p][/quote]Really? The residents wouldn't get far in life without the tourists putting business in their direction so your comment is either a joke and a bad one at that or you are completely narrow minded. However I cannot see how a bike ride on speed resticted routes is a good idea in the first place. Dibbles2
  • Score: -7

10:22am Fri 11 Apr 14

GeorgeW64 says...

Are the people who live in the New Forest still living in the dark ages ?
Lets hope someone organises a motor cycle event that will really p**s them off.
Are the people who live in the New Forest still living in the dark ages ? Lets hope someone organises a motor cycle event that will really p**s them off. GeorgeW64
  • Score: 18

10:23am Fri 11 Apr 14

ashleycross says...

What about a special report on the dangers to the public and burden on our hospitals of people not cycling and exercising more-casualty units full up with fat heart attack victims. asthma admissions for fat people through the roof as soon as the sun shines for more than a week, fat people on benefits because they are unable to walk. Just take some pictures of fat people waddling around the entrance of Poole hospital with their fags to prove the point.
We need more cycling events and less of the echo moaning about them. Get on the right side of public opinion for a change and start campaigning for more safer cycling please instead of bowing to and even joining the winge bag fatty lobby.
What about a special report on the dangers to the public and burden on our hospitals of people not cycling and exercising more-casualty units full up with fat heart attack victims. asthma admissions for fat people through the roof as soon as the sun shines for more than a week, fat people on benefits because they are unable to walk. Just take some pictures of fat people waddling around the entrance of Poole hospital with their fags to prove the point. We need more cycling events and less of the echo moaning about them. Get on the right side of public opinion for a change and start campaigning for more safer cycling please instead of bowing to and even joining the winge bag fatty lobby. ashleycross
  • Score: 24

10:29am Fri 11 Apr 14

Richard of Wantage says...

suzigirl wrote:
All cyclists obey the law at all times, are a very friendly bunch of people, are not abusive and only cycle on the roads and cycle lanes - utter fiction......
It must be spring, the 1st sign of the anti-cycle trolls!
[quote][p][bold]suzigirl[/bold] wrote: All cyclists obey the law at all times, are a very friendly bunch of people, are not abusive and only cycle on the roads and cycle lanes - utter fiction......[/p][/quote]It must be spring, the 1st sign of the anti-cycle trolls! Richard of Wantage
  • Score: 22

10:38am Fri 11 Apr 14

strippervicar says...

I believe the route this year takes in the Avon Causeway. If true then this is very bad planning, that road backs up when cars have to trail just one cyclist. Stick a few hundred on there and it'll be carnage.
I believe the route this year takes in the Avon Causeway. If true then this is very bad planning, that road backs up when cars have to trail just one cyclist. Stick a few hundred on there and it'll be carnage. strippervicar
  • Score: 11

10:45am Fri 11 Apr 14

Theo63 says...

GeorgeW64 wrote:
Are the people who live in the New Forest still living in the dark ages ?
Lets hope someone organises a motor cycle event that will really p**s them off.
This really made me smile! Just my sense of humour:)
[quote][p][bold]GeorgeW64[/bold] wrote: Are the people who live in the New Forest still living in the dark ages ? Lets hope someone organises a motor cycle event that will really p**s them off.[/p][/quote]This really made me smile! Just my sense of humour:) Theo63
  • Score: 23

10:52am Fri 11 Apr 14

suzigirl says...

Richard of Wantage wrote:
suzigirl wrote: All cyclists obey the law at all times, are a very friendly bunch of people, are not abusive and only cycle on the roads and cycle lanes - utter fiction......
It must be spring, the 1st sign of the anti-cycle trolls!
YAWWNNNNN.......
[quote][p][bold]Richard of Wantage[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]suzigirl[/bold] wrote: All cyclists obey the law at all times, are a very friendly bunch of people, are not abusive and only cycle on the roads and cycle lanes - utter fiction......[/p][/quote]It must be spring, the 1st sign of the anti-cycle trolls![/p][/quote]YAWWNNNNN....... suzigirl
  • Score: -31

10:56am Fri 11 Apr 14

suzigirl says...

GeorgeW64 wrote:
Are the people who live in the New Forest still living in the dark ages ? Lets hope someone organises a motor cycle event that will really p**s them off.
What a good idea - I could organise that - should I make it the same day as the Wiggle event - sports bikes only - no Harleys aka tractors - and I think three abreast should be fine.....
[quote][p][bold]GeorgeW64[/bold] wrote: Are the people who live in the New Forest still living in the dark ages ? Lets hope someone organises a motor cycle event that will really p**s them off.[/p][/quote]What a good idea - I could organise that - should I make it the same day as the Wiggle event - sports bikes only - no Harleys aka tractors - and I think three abreast should be fine..... suzigirl
  • Score: -24

11:21am Fri 11 Apr 14

speedy231278 says...

As an aside, how exactly do you pole dance and cycle at the same time?
As an aside, how exactly do you pole dance and cycle at the same time? speedy231278
  • Score: 4

12:13pm Fri 11 Apr 14

sundaydriver says...

2000 cyclists is a lot of people - then add in the people that are coming along to watch and cheer - then add in the number of peeps that go to the forest every weekend who live within - then add in all the press people looking for a bad angle story to report on and you have doubled the original 2000.

I think Lyndhurst does now really have a good case for a Ride Through McDonalds to support everyone. Maybe a branch in Brock as well if we start a petition.
2000 cyclists is a lot of people - then add in the people that are coming along to watch and cheer - then add in the number of peeps that go to the forest every weekend who live within - then add in all the press people looking for a bad angle story to report on and you have doubled the original 2000. I think Lyndhurst does now really have a good case for a Ride Through McDonalds to support everyone. Maybe a branch in Brock as well if we start a petition. sundaydriver
  • Score: -8

12:17pm Fri 11 Apr 14

boardsandphotos says...

Theo63 wrote:
When will people learn to live together in harmony!

I'm sure it's a small percentage of people who live in the New Forest who are objecting and I suspect some of them are "persistent/vex
atiou
s complainants!

It would be good if we could harness and channel their energy into fighting causes that really do matter!
Yes there's enough hot wind coming from this bunch of moaners in the New Forest to make me think the Navitus WInd Farm should be relocated.
[quote][p][bold]Theo63[/bold] wrote: When will people learn to live together in harmony! I'm sure it's a small percentage of people who live in the New Forest who are objecting and I suspect some of them are "persistent/vex atiou s complainants! It would be good if we could harness and channel their energy into fighting causes that really do matter![/p][/quote]Yes there's enough hot wind coming from this bunch of moaners in the New Forest to make me think the Navitus WInd Farm should be relocated. boardsandphotos
  • Score: 21

12:23pm Fri 11 Apr 14

p.smith1958 says...

abuse of OUR tranquil locality, yes your right it belongs to England, not just a few potty locals
abuse of OUR tranquil locality, yes your right it belongs to England, not just a few potty locals p.smith1958
  • Score: 17

12:28pm Fri 11 Apr 14

In Absentia says...

Only in this country could we have a bunch of nimbys and trolls moaning about a large group of people getting outside and taking exercise. On the continent, these types of events happen every weekend with positive support from the local communities.
Only in this country could we have a bunch of nimbys and trolls moaning about a large group of people getting outside and taking exercise. On the continent, these types of events happen every weekend with positive support from the local communities. In Absentia
  • Score: 19

12:30pm Fri 11 Apr 14

sundaydriver says...

Why don't we all get a cycle and join them? See if we could break a record for the most cyclists gathered in one place for charity?
Why don't we all get a cycle and join them? See if we could break a record for the most cyclists gathered in one place for charity? sundaydriver
  • Score: 17

12:33pm Fri 11 Apr 14

cynicist says...

It's just two days. I'm sure you will survive and the smell of urine will wash away in the Spring rains. It is a really good sign when people get so concerned about a cycling event. Clearly life is good when that is your major complaint.
It's just two days. I'm sure you will survive and the smell of urine will wash away in the Spring rains. It is a really good sign when people get so concerned about a cycling event. Clearly life is good when that is your major complaint. cynicist
  • Score: 18

12:33pm Fri 11 Apr 14

suzigirl says...

ashleycross wrote:
What about a special report on the dangers to the public and burden on our hospitals of people not cycling and exercising more-casualty units full up with fat heart attack victims. asthma admissions for fat people through the roof as soon as the sun shines for more than a week, fat people on benefits because they are unable to walk. Just take some pictures of fat people waddling around the entrance of Poole hospital with their fags to prove the point. We need more cycling events and less of the echo moaning about them. Get on the right side of public opinion for a change and start campaigning for more safer cycling please instead of bowing to and even joining the winge bag fatty lobby.
So cycling is the only form of exercise? Obviously your mouth gets a lot of exercise as well LOL!
[quote][p][bold]ashleycross[/bold] wrote: What about a special report on the dangers to the public and burden on our hospitals of people not cycling and exercising more-casualty units full up with fat heart attack victims. asthma admissions for fat people through the roof as soon as the sun shines for more than a week, fat people on benefits because they are unable to walk. Just take some pictures of fat people waddling around the entrance of Poole hospital with their fags to prove the point. We need more cycling events and less of the echo moaning about them. Get on the right side of public opinion for a change and start campaigning for more safer cycling please instead of bowing to and even joining the winge bag fatty lobby.[/p][/quote]So cycling is the only form of exercise? Obviously your mouth gets a lot of exercise as well LOL! suzigirl
  • Score: -25

12:33pm Fri 11 Apr 14

FNS-man says...

The roads are brought to a standstill twice a day, five days a week by cars. Cars also kill pedestrians, cyclists and ponies in the forest. Maybe we should be looking at doing something about that instead.
The roads are brought to a standstill twice a day, five days a week by cars. Cars also kill pedestrians, cyclists and ponies in the forest. Maybe we should be looking at doing something about that instead. FNS-man
  • Score: 29

12:35pm Fri 11 Apr 14

Dibbles2 says...

Hessenford wrote:
Dibbles2 wrote:
Hessenford wrote:
sfby wrote:
Scarecrow52 wrote:
The objections to this event have nothing to do with nimbyism, it has everything to do with access to our homes and safety. 3,000 cyclists is a huge number, particularly when he stated that it would be closer to 2,000 at a recent RTC meeting. It's way to big, with cyclists not going to abide by the laws of the road as they are being timed and therefore it must constitute a 'race' and therefore should the roads be closed for this event? Mr Barden will generate huge amount of income from this event and, I suspect, very little of it will make the coffers of the NFNP or surrounding area, not from him anyway, might be a few b&b's that benefit. It's wrong and it's done for profit only.
According to the website a donation of £3,000 will be made to Oakhaven Hospice - that, and the income to pubs / hotels / B&Bs before the "traditional" start to the season over the Easter weekend, makes me think putting up with a minor inconvenience for a few hours is worth it.

Can any of the objectors really claim that the event is a major blight on their lives?
Urine stained fields would be a good starting point.
So are all residents of the new forest and ponies and cows catheterised?
Cows and ponies are entitled to, residents do not, cyclists just go where they like, much like they do on the roads.
Im pretty sure that you cant limit that statement to cyclists! Do you go round inspecting the "urine stained grass". Do you have proof its cyclists. If not its a statement that really isn't worth making isn't it?

Lets be honest if someone gets caught short miles from a toilet be they a child or a cyclist its hardly going to ruin the New Forest. try living in towns where dogs pee all over the school playing fields and poop outside your garden gate and then perhaps you will have cause to complain about it. from experience I was refused the use of a pub toilet in the New Forest when heavily pregnant some years ago because I wasnt a customer and if thats how visitors are treated then they are going to use the grass.
[quote][p][bold]Hessenford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dibbles2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hessenford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sfby[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Scarecrow52[/bold] wrote: The objections to this event have nothing to do with nimbyism, it has everything to do with access to our homes and safety. 3,000 cyclists is a huge number, particularly when he stated that it would be closer to 2,000 at a recent RTC meeting. It's way to big, with cyclists not going to abide by the laws of the road as they are being timed and therefore it must constitute a 'race' and therefore should the roads be closed for this event? Mr Barden will generate huge amount of income from this event and, I suspect, very little of it will make the coffers of the NFNP or surrounding area, not from him anyway, might be a few b&b's that benefit. It's wrong and it's done for profit only.[/p][/quote]According to the website a donation of £3,000 will be made to Oakhaven Hospice - that, and the income to pubs / hotels / B&Bs before the "traditional" start to the season over the Easter weekend, makes me think putting up with a minor inconvenience for a few hours is worth it. Can any of the objectors really claim that the event is a major blight on their lives?[/p][/quote]Urine stained fields would be a good starting point.[/p][/quote]So are all residents of the new forest and ponies and cows catheterised?[/p][/quote]Cows and ponies are entitled to, residents do not, cyclists just go where they like, much like they do on the roads.[/p][/quote]Im pretty sure that you cant limit that statement to cyclists! Do you go round inspecting the "urine stained grass". Do you have proof its cyclists. If not its a statement that really isn't worth making isn't it? Lets be honest if someone gets caught short miles from a toilet be they a child or a cyclist its hardly going to ruin the New Forest. try living in towns where dogs pee all over the school playing fields and poop outside your garden gate and then perhaps you will have cause to complain about it. from experience I was refused the use of a pub toilet in the New Forest when heavily pregnant some years ago because I wasnt a customer and if thats how visitors are treated then they are going to use the grass. Dibbles2
  • Score: 16

12:35pm Fri 11 Apr 14

FONFA says...

see from Wriggle signs this morning that Matchams Lane, the Avon Causeway, Sopley and Derritt Lane are on the route - Oh Joy - not.
see from Wriggle signs this morning that Matchams Lane, the Avon Causeway, Sopley and Derritt Lane are on the route - Oh Joy - not. FONFA
  • Score: 10

12:38pm Fri 11 Apr 14

Hessenford says...

boardsandphotos wrote:
Hessenford wrote:
Dibbles2 wrote:
Hessenford wrote:
sfby wrote:
Scarecrow52 wrote:
The objections to this event have nothing to do with nimbyism, it has everything to do with access to our homes and safety. 3,000 cyclists is a huge number, particularly when he stated that it would be closer to 2,000 at a recent RTC meeting. It's way to big, with cyclists not going to abide by the laws of the road as they are being timed and therefore it must constitute a 'race' and therefore should the roads be closed for this event? Mr Barden will generate huge amount of income from this event and, I suspect, very little of it will make the coffers of the NFNP or surrounding area, not from him anyway, might be a few b&b's that benefit. It's wrong and it's done for profit only.
According to the website a donation of £3,000 will be made to Oakhaven Hospice - that, and the income to pubs / hotels / B&Bs before the "traditional" start to the season over the Easter weekend, makes me think putting up with a minor inconvenience for a few hours is worth it.

Can any of the objectors really claim that the event is a major blight on their lives?
Urine stained fields would be a good starting point.
So are all residents of the new forest and ponies and cows catheterised?
Cows and ponies are entitled to, residents do not, cyclists just go where they like, much like they do on the roads.
Hessenford -

Never happy are you, you don't want bikes on the roads, you don't want them on the pavements, in the forest on paths or off road across fields, you don't want a closed road event, you don't want an open road event.

Cyclists are no better or worse collectively than pedestrians, car drivers, lorry drivers, taxi drivers, bus drivers, motorcyclists and any other group of people who use the highways and byways for commuting, leisure, travelling and generally going about their daily business.

This event will help raise money for charity, it will help bring money to businesses in the area, it will help raise the profile of the fantastic open space that is the New Forest.

A small minority of people (probably less than the number of people cycling in the event) might be inconvenienced for a short period of time, well hey, in the real world we all have to try and get on and we all have to deal with small inconveniences, with money to charity and with local businesses benefiting I'm sure the good people of the New Forest can cope, after all it's been well publicised so they know it's coming and can plan accordingly.
I don't really have a problem with bikes on the road as long as they use it sensibly, there are plenty of you tube vidios taken by a guy with a helmet cam which shows just ho stupid some cyclists are, running red lights, riding down one way streets the wrong way to name a couple, there are loads of vids showing this and that is why some of us show hostility towards cyclists.
I wonder what the council would say if a load of car drivers wanted the New Forest shut fo a day so they could drive all over the place side by side, that would be a resounding no I think.
[quote][p][bold]boardsandphotos[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hessenford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dibbles2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hessenford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sfby[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Scarecrow52[/bold] wrote: The objections to this event have nothing to do with nimbyism, it has everything to do with access to our homes and safety. 3,000 cyclists is a huge number, particularly when he stated that it would be closer to 2,000 at a recent RTC meeting. It's way to big, with cyclists not going to abide by the laws of the road as they are being timed and therefore it must constitute a 'race' and therefore should the roads be closed for this event? Mr Barden will generate huge amount of income from this event and, I suspect, very little of it will make the coffers of the NFNP or surrounding area, not from him anyway, might be a few b&b's that benefit. It's wrong and it's done for profit only.[/p][/quote]According to the website a donation of £3,000 will be made to Oakhaven Hospice - that, and the income to pubs / hotels / B&Bs before the "traditional" start to the season over the Easter weekend, makes me think putting up with a minor inconvenience for a few hours is worth it. Can any of the objectors really claim that the event is a major blight on their lives?[/p][/quote]Urine stained fields would be a good starting point.[/p][/quote]So are all residents of the new forest and ponies and cows catheterised?[/p][/quote]Cows and ponies are entitled to, residents do not, cyclists just go where they like, much like they do on the roads.[/p][/quote]Hessenford - Never happy are you, you don't want bikes on the roads, you don't want them on the pavements, in the forest on paths or off road across fields, you don't want a closed road event, you don't want an open road event. Cyclists are no better or worse collectively than pedestrians, car drivers, lorry drivers, taxi drivers, bus drivers, motorcyclists and any other group of people who use the highways and byways for commuting, leisure, travelling and generally going about their daily business. This event will help raise money for charity, it will help bring money to businesses in the area, it will help raise the profile of the fantastic open space that is the New Forest. A small minority of people (probably less than the number of people cycling in the event) might be inconvenienced for a short period of time, well hey, in the real world we all have to try and get on and we all have to deal with small inconveniences, with money to charity and with local businesses benefiting I'm sure the good people of the New Forest can cope, after all it's been well publicised so they know it's coming and can plan accordingly.[/p][/quote]I don't really have a problem with bikes on the road as long as they use it sensibly, there are plenty of you tube vidios taken by a guy with a helmet cam which shows just ho stupid some cyclists are, running red lights, riding down one way streets the wrong way to name a couple, there are loads of vids showing this and that is why some of us show hostility towards cyclists. I wonder what the council would say if a load of car drivers wanted the New Forest shut fo a day so they could drive all over the place side by side, that would be a resounding no I think. Hessenford
  • Score: -16

12:50pm Fri 11 Apr 14

kingstonpaul says...

Pathetic. So what exactly are these 'risks to the public'? It soooo depresses me when the 'risks to humanity' card is played. These New Forest residents are showing all the tribal instincts of animals, peeing over their territory with their pitiful signs.
Come on people, 2,000 cyclists really isn't such a huge number. After all, 16,000 turned out for Ride London last year; this weekend 25,000 runners will take to London streets
Pathetic. So what exactly are these 'risks to the public'? It soooo depresses me when the 'risks to humanity' card is played. These New Forest residents are showing all the tribal instincts of animals, peeing over their territory with their pitiful signs. Come on people, 2,000 cyclists really isn't such a huge number. After all, 16,000 turned out for Ride London last year; this weekend 25,000 runners will take to London streets kingstonpaul
  • Score: 19

12:54pm Fri 11 Apr 14

In Absentia says...

suzigirl wrote:
ashleycross wrote: What about a special report on the dangers to the public and burden on our hospitals of people not cycling and exercising more-casualty units full up with fat heart attack victims. asthma admissions for fat people through the roof as soon as the sun shines for more than a week, fat people on benefits because they are unable to walk. Just take some pictures of fat people waddling around the entrance of Poole hospital with their fags to prove the point. We need more cycling events and less of the echo moaning about them. Get on the right side of public opinion for a change and start campaigning for more safer cycling please instead of bowing to and even joining the winge bag fatty lobby.
So cycling is the only form of exercise? Obviously your mouth gets a lot of exercise as well LOL!
A pity that your brain doesn't.............
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[quote][p][bold]suzigirl[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ashleycross[/bold] wrote: What about a special report on the dangers to the public and burden on our hospitals of people not cycling and exercising more-casualty units full up with fat heart attack victims. asthma admissions for fat people through the roof as soon as the sun shines for more than a week, fat people on benefits because they are unable to walk. Just take some pictures of fat people waddling around the entrance of Poole hospital with their fags to prove the point. We need more cycling events and less of the echo moaning about them. Get on the right side of public opinion for a change and start campaigning for more safer cycling please instead of bowing to and even joining the winge bag fatty lobby.[/p][/quote]So cycling is the only form of exercise? Obviously your mouth gets a lot of exercise as well LOL![/p][/quote]A pity that your brain doesn't............. .................... .......... In Absentia
  • Score: 9

1:03pm Fri 11 Apr 14

Dorset Logic says...

Will someone please think of the begonia's
Will someone please think of the begonia's Dorset Logic
  • Score: 10

1:30pm Fri 11 Apr 14

localres1 says...

Correct me if I'm wrong but don't we live in a free country?
Who dares to think they have the right to say who can and who can't have access to something that isn't even theirs, even if they do live there!
The New Forest is for anybody and everybody so all of those winging on about their rights as walkers, riders or cyclists grow up and stop being so ridiculous.
I walk my dogs, ride my bike and play with my kids in the NF oh and yes I live there to so what you got to say about that !!!
Enjoy the ride this weekend "Wiggle" your very welcome to share "OUR" Forest.
Correct me if I'm wrong but don't we live in a free country? Who dares to think they have the right to say who can and who can't have access to something that isn't even theirs, even if they do live there! The New Forest is for anybody and everybody so all of those winging on about their rights as walkers, riders or cyclists grow up and stop being so ridiculous. I walk my dogs, ride my bike and play with my kids in the NF oh and yes I live there to so what you got to say about that !!! Enjoy the ride this weekend "Wiggle" your very welcome to share "OUR" Forest. localres1
  • Score: 25

1:53pm Fri 11 Apr 14

Arthur Maureen says...

Ash_69 wrote:
Cyclists out.

The New Forest should be for locals only. Horse riding and hunting comes first.

I'm more important than you and live in Burley so listen to me!!

Off to the hardware shop later this morning then for me...









;)
Stop it, you've nicked Suzygirls quote!!
[quote][p][bold]Ash_69[/bold] wrote: Cyclists out. The New Forest should be for locals only. Horse riding and hunting comes first. I'm more important than you and live in Burley so listen to me!! Off to the hardware shop later this morning then for me... ;)[/p][/quote]Stop it, you've nicked Suzygirls quote!! Arthur Maureen
  • Score: 1

2:09pm Fri 11 Apr 14

Bournemouth87 says...

I see no problem with the bike ride, however I do have problems with the attitude of some of the cyclists. I seen a child knocked down by a group of cyclist klast time and not one stopped to help. I am suprised that hasnt been made public. The cyclists need to be a bit more careful off the public and not think that this day is all about them. I see why people whinge about cyclists, they are a law upon themselves. I will be down there dog walking and filiming the event, and we will see who is in the wrong from the footage gathered.
I see no problem with the bike ride, however I do have problems with the attitude of some of the cyclists. I seen a child knocked down by a group of cyclist klast time and not one stopped to help. I am suprised that hasnt been made public. The cyclists need to be a bit more careful off the public and not think that this day is all about them. I see why people whinge about cyclists, they are a law upon themselves. I will be down there dog walking and filiming the event, and we will see who is in the wrong from the footage gathered. Bournemouth87
  • Score: -4

2:10pm Fri 11 Apr 14

Johankins says...

I've lived in Sopley for the past 23 years , we always have an abundance of cyclists through the village during the months April thru September, so bloody what , the country would be a better place if more people took to the saddle instead of getting angry behind the wheel of lethal weapon.
I think we should be cheering them on NOT geering them.
The people that are doing all the moaning have obviously got far too much time on there hands ,maybe they would be better off volunteering a little of there precious time to Marshall the event so they would be on the front line to 'report' anybody tearing up the forest to their local councillor , so sad.....
I've lived in Sopley for the past 23 years , we always have an abundance of cyclists through the village during the months April thru September, so bloody what , the country would be a better place if more people took to the saddle instead of getting angry behind the wheel of lethal weapon. I think we should be cheering them on NOT geering them. The people that are doing all the moaning have obviously got far too much time on there hands ,maybe they would be better off volunteering a little of there precious time to Marshall the event so they would be on the front line to 'report' anybody tearing up the forest to their local councillor , so sad..... Johankins
  • Score: 19

2:18pm Fri 11 Apr 14

uberbloke says...

You can get the route here
http://www.ukcycling
events.co.uk/events/
wiggle-new-forest-sp
ring-sportive-2014/

Direct link http://www.ukcycling
events.co.uk/maps/uk
ce_wss_nf_spring_spo
rtive_2014.pdf

Matchhams, Avon Causeway (both ways), the main Ringwood to Christchurch road, Burley, Derrit Lane, and that just with 5miles of the start/finish!

Dear God the route planner must be one of the finest comedians this country has ever produced!
You can get the route here http://www.ukcycling events.co.uk/events/ wiggle-new-forest-sp ring-sportive-2014/ Direct link http://www.ukcycling events.co.uk/maps/uk ce_wss_nf_spring_spo rtive_2014.pdf Matchhams, Avon Causeway (both ways), the main Ringwood to Christchurch road, Burley, Derrit Lane, and that just with 5miles of the start/finish! Dear God the route planner must be one of the finest comedians this country has ever produced! uberbloke
  • Score: 1

2:18pm Fri 11 Apr 14

suzigirl says...

Bournemouth87 wrote:
I see no problem with the bike ride, however I do have problems with the attitude of some of the cyclists. I seen a child knocked down by a group of cyclist klast time and not one stopped to help. I am suprised that hasnt been made public. The cyclists need to be a bit more careful off the public and not think that this day is all about them. I see why people whinge about cyclists, they are a law upon themselves. I will be down there dog walking and filiming the event, and we will see who is in the wrong from the footage gathered.
I wish you luck with that - don't forget to bring some more poo bags with you for the cyclists............
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[quote][p][bold]Bournemouth87[/bold] wrote: I see no problem with the bike ride, however I do have problems with the attitude of some of the cyclists. I seen a child knocked down by a group of cyclist klast time and not one stopped to help. I am suprised that hasnt been made public. The cyclists need to be a bit more careful off the public and not think that this day is all about them. I see why people whinge about cyclists, they are a law upon themselves. I will be down there dog walking and filiming the event, and we will see who is in the wrong from the footage gathered.[/p][/quote]I wish you luck with that - don't forget to bring some more poo bags with you for the cyclists............ .. suzigirl
  • Score: -10

2:20pm Fri 11 Apr 14

uberbloke says...

oh my, I've just had a mental image of the one way section of the Avon Causeway as you go over the bridge... I do hope that everyone gives way to the oncoming traffic....
oh my, I've just had a mental image of the one way section of the Avon Causeway as you go over the bridge... I do hope that everyone gives way to the oncoming traffic.... uberbloke
  • Score: 2

2:22pm Fri 11 Apr 14

GarrySibbald says...

It is depressingly sad that people can get so upset when there is even the slightest likelihood that their normal routine might be interrupted and can't view events like this in a positive light. All I can say don't go to London this weekend to escape the cycling or you'll see another group of enthusiastic people enjoying the London Marathon!
It is depressingly sad that people can get so upset when there is even the slightest likelihood that their normal routine might be interrupted and can't view events like this in a positive light. All I can say don't go to London this weekend to escape the cycling or you'll see another group of enthusiastic people enjoying the London Marathon! GarrySibbald
  • Score: 5

2:25pm Fri 11 Apr 14

uberbloke says...

GarrySibbald wrote:
It is depressingly sad that people can get so upset when there is even the slightest likelihood that their normal routine might be interrupted and can't view events like this in a positive light. All I can say don't go to London this weekend to escape the cycling or you'll see another group of enthusiastic people enjoying the London Marathon!
Yep, been there it is fantastic; the whole route gets marked out, you get road closures, marshalls along the whole route, the runners separated from the traffic, no nonofficial entries just joining in where they feel like it...

Crikey it's almost exactly like what we are discussing here!
[quote][p][bold]GarrySibbald[/bold] wrote: It is depressingly sad that people can get so upset when there is even the slightest likelihood that their normal routine might be interrupted and can't view events like this in a positive light. All I can say don't go to London this weekend to escape the cycling or you'll see another group of enthusiastic people enjoying the London Marathon![/p][/quote]Yep, been there it is fantastic; the whole route gets marked out, you get road closures, marshalls along the whole route, the runners separated from the traffic, no nonofficial entries just joining in where they feel like it... Crikey it's almost exactly like what we are discussing here! uberbloke
  • Score: 7

2:32pm Fri 11 Apr 14

sundaydriver says...

GarrySibbald wrote:
It is depressingly sad that people can get so upset when there is even the slightest likelihood that their normal routine might be interrupted and can't view events like this in a positive light. All I can say don't go to London this weekend to escape the cycling or you'll see another group of enthusiastic people enjoying the London Marathon!
Why don't we have a New Forest marathon?

Or do we? lol
[quote][p][bold]GarrySibbald[/bold] wrote: It is depressingly sad that people can get so upset when there is even the slightest likelihood that their normal routine might be interrupted and can't view events like this in a positive light. All I can say don't go to London this weekend to escape the cycling or you'll see another group of enthusiastic people enjoying the London Marathon![/p][/quote]Why don't we have a New Forest marathon? Or do we? lol sundaydriver
  • Score: 0

2:32pm Fri 11 Apr 14

Arthur Maureen says...

Bournemouth87 wrote:
I see no problem with the bike ride, however I do have problems with the attitude of some of the cyclists. I seen a child knocked down by a group of cyclist klast time and not one stopped to help. I am suprised that hasnt been made public. The cyclists need to be a bit more careful off the public and not think that this day is all about them. I see why people whinge about cyclists, they are a law upon themselves. I will be down there dog walking and filiming the event, and we will see who is in the wrong from the footage gathered.
What a sad case
[quote][p][bold]Bournemouth87[/bold] wrote: I see no problem with the bike ride, however I do have problems with the attitude of some of the cyclists. I seen a child knocked down by a group of cyclist klast time and not one stopped to help. I am suprised that hasnt been made public. The cyclists need to be a bit more careful off the public and not think that this day is all about them. I see why people whinge about cyclists, they are a law upon themselves. I will be down there dog walking and filiming the event, and we will see who is in the wrong from the footage gathered.[/p][/quote]What a sad case Arthur Maureen
  • Score: -5

2:36pm Fri 11 Apr 14

Arthur Maureen says...

suzigirl wrote:
ashleycross wrote:
What about a special report on the dangers to the public and burden on our hospitals of people not cycling and exercising more-casualty units full up with fat heart attack victims. asthma admissions for fat people through the roof as soon as the sun shines for more than a week, fat people on benefits because they are unable to walk. Just take some pictures of fat people waddling around the entrance of Poole hospital with their fags to prove the point. We need more cycling events and less of the echo moaning about them. Get on the right side of public opinion for a change and start campaigning for more safer cycling please instead of bowing to and even joining the winge bag fatty lobby.
So cycling is the only form of exercise? Obviously your mouth gets a lot of exercise as well LOL!
Seems your digits do from the bile you type on here - LOL?? your 70 odd not 15 :p
[quote][p][bold]suzigirl[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ashleycross[/bold] wrote: What about a special report on the dangers to the public and burden on our hospitals of people not cycling and exercising more-casualty units full up with fat heart attack victims. asthma admissions for fat people through the roof as soon as the sun shines for more than a week, fat people on benefits because they are unable to walk. Just take some pictures of fat people waddling around the entrance of Poole hospital with their fags to prove the point. We need more cycling events and less of the echo moaning about them. Get on the right side of public opinion for a change and start campaigning for more safer cycling please instead of bowing to and even joining the winge bag fatty lobby.[/p][/quote]So cycling is the only form of exercise? Obviously your mouth gets a lot of exercise as well LOL![/p][/quote]Seems your digits do from the bile you type on here - LOL?? your 70 odd not 15 :p Arthur Maureen
  • Score: 2

2:36pm Fri 11 Apr 14

Johankins says...

sundaydriver wrote:
GarrySibbald wrote:
It is depressingly sad that people can get so upset when there is even the slightest likelihood that their normal routine might be interrupted and can't view events like this in a positive light. All I can say don't go to London this weekend to escape the cycling or you'll see another group of enthusiastic people enjoying the London Marathon!
Why don't we have a New Forest marathon?

Or do we? lol
We do normally , not enough people entered this year so didn't go ahead.
[quote][p][bold]sundaydriver[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]GarrySibbald[/bold] wrote: It is depressingly sad that people can get so upset when there is even the slightest likelihood that their normal routine might be interrupted and can't view events like this in a positive light. All I can say don't go to London this weekend to escape the cycling or you'll see another group of enthusiastic people enjoying the London Marathon![/p][/quote]Why don't we have a New Forest marathon? Or do we? lol[/p][/quote]We do normally , not enough people entered this year so didn't go ahead. Johankins
  • Score: 0

2:38pm Fri 11 Apr 14

suzigirl says...

Arthur Maureen wrote:
Bournemouth87 wrote: I see no problem with the bike ride, however I do have problems with the attitude of some of the cyclists. I seen a child knocked down by a group of cyclist klast time and not one stopped to help. I am suprised that hasnt been made public. The cyclists need to be a bit more careful off the public and not think that this day is all about them. I see why people whinge about cyclists, they are a law upon themselves. I will be down there dog walking and filiming the event, and we will see who is in the wrong from the footage gathered.
What a sad case
Not as sad as you!
[quote][p][bold]Arthur Maureen[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bournemouth87[/bold] wrote: I see no problem with the bike ride, however I do have problems with the attitude of some of the cyclists. I seen a child knocked down by a group of cyclist klast time and not one stopped to help. I am suprised that hasnt been made public. The cyclists need to be a bit more careful off the public and not think that this day is all about them. I see why people whinge about cyclists, they are a law upon themselves. I will be down there dog walking and filiming the event, and we will see who is in the wrong from the footage gathered.[/p][/quote]What a sad case[/p][/quote]Not as sad as you! suzigirl
  • Score: -17

2:46pm Fri 11 Apr 14

Johankins says...

Johankins wrote:
I've lived in Sopley for the past 23 years , we always have an abundance of cyclists through the village during the months April thru September, so bloody what , the country would be a better place if more people took to the saddle instead of getting angry behind the wheel of lethal weapon.
I think we should be cheering them on NOT geering them.
The people that are doing all the moaning have obviously got far too much time on there hands ,maybe they would be better off volunteering a little of there precious time to Marshall the event so they would be on the front line to 'report' anybody tearing up the forest to their local councillor , so sad.....
Also it is all for charity , and the event organisers will alone be donating £3000.00 for the oak haven hospice in lymington ,so not a bad thing people .
Just think if you lived in London you'd have 37,000 people pounding the streets in the marathon , STOP moaning and get supporting .
[quote][p][bold]Johankins[/bold] wrote: I've lived in Sopley for the past 23 years , we always have an abundance of cyclists through the village during the months April thru September, so bloody what , the country would be a better place if more people took to the saddle instead of getting angry behind the wheel of lethal weapon. I think we should be cheering them on NOT geering them. The people that are doing all the moaning have obviously got far too much time on there hands ,maybe they would be better off volunteering a little of there precious time to Marshall the event so they would be on the front line to 'report' anybody tearing up the forest to their local councillor , so sad.....[/p][/quote]Also it is all for charity , and the event organisers will alone be donating £3000.00 for the oak haven hospice in lymington ,so not a bad thing people . Just think if you lived in London you'd have 37,000 people pounding the streets in the marathon , STOP moaning and get supporting . Johankins
  • Score: 6

2:50pm Fri 11 Apr 14

GarrySibbald says...

uberbloke wrote:
GarrySibbald wrote:
It is depressingly sad that people can get so upset when there is even the slightest likelihood that their normal routine might be interrupted and can't view events like this in a positive light. All I can say don't go to London this weekend to escape the cycling or you'll see another group of enthusiastic people enjoying the London Marathon!
Yep, been there it is fantastic; the whole route gets marked out, you get road closures, marshalls along the whole route, the runners separated from the traffic, no nonofficial entries just joining in where they feel like it...

Crikey it's almost exactly like what we are discussing here!
Oh, my mistake, I thought the protests were primarily because the locals didn't like cycle events in the forest full stop. Would the complainers actually be happier if the roads were shut to traffic for the event? That was a rhetorical question - I believe I already know the answer!
[quote][p][bold]uberbloke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]GarrySibbald[/bold] wrote: It is depressingly sad that people can get so upset when there is even the slightest likelihood that their normal routine might be interrupted and can't view events like this in a positive light. All I can say don't go to London this weekend to escape the cycling or you'll see another group of enthusiastic people enjoying the London Marathon![/p][/quote]Yep, been there it is fantastic; the whole route gets marked out, you get road closures, marshalls along the whole route, the runners separated from the traffic, no nonofficial entries just joining in where they feel like it... Crikey it's almost exactly like what we are discussing here![/p][/quote]Oh, my mistake, I thought the protests were primarily because the locals didn't like cycle events in the forest full stop. Would the complainers actually be happier if the roads were shut to traffic for the event? That was a rhetorical question - I believe I already know the answer! GarrySibbald
  • Score: 6

2:50pm Fri 11 Apr 14

The-Bleeding-Obvious says...

suzigirl wrote:
Arthur Maureen wrote:
Bournemouth87 wrote: I see no problem with the bike ride, however I do have problems with the attitude of some of the cyclists. I seen a child knocked down by a group of cyclist klast time and not one stopped to help. I am suprised that hasnt been made public. The cyclists need to be a bit more careful off the public and not think that this day is all about them. I see why people whinge about cyclists, they are a law upon themselves. I will be down there dog walking and filiming the event, and we will see who is in the wrong from the footage gathered.
What a sad case
Not as sad as you!
Err, careful who you call sad, I think you must hold the record for being the commenter that's attracted, by far, the most 'thumbs down'!
[quote][p][bold]suzigirl[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Arthur Maureen[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bournemouth87[/bold] wrote: I see no problem with the bike ride, however I do have problems with the attitude of some of the cyclists. I seen a child knocked down by a group of cyclist klast time and not one stopped to help. I am suprised that hasnt been made public. The cyclists need to be a bit more careful off the public and not think that this day is all about them. I see why people whinge about cyclists, they are a law upon themselves. I will be down there dog walking and filiming the event, and we will see who is in the wrong from the footage gathered.[/p][/quote]What a sad case[/p][/quote]Not as sad as you![/p][/quote]Err, careful who you call sad, I think you must hold the record for being the commenter that's attracted, by far, the most 'thumbs down'! The-Bleeding-Obvious
  • Score: 6

2:53pm Fri 11 Apr 14

The-Bleeding-Obvious says...

The-Bleeding-Obvious wrote:
suzigirl wrote:
Arthur Maureen wrote:
Bournemouth87 wrote: I see no problem with the bike ride, however I do have problems with the attitude of some of the cyclists. I seen a child knocked down by a group of cyclist klast time and not one stopped to help. I am suprised that hasnt been made public. The cyclists need to be a bit more careful off the public and not think that this day is all about them. I see why people whinge about cyclists, they are a law upon themselves. I will be down there dog walking and filiming the event, and we will see who is in the wrong from the footage gathered.
What a sad case
Not as sad as you!
Err, careful who you call sad, I think you must hold the record for being the commenter that's attracted, by far, the most 'thumbs down'!
....that's across all threads but you must be tops when it's anything to do with cycling.
[quote][p][bold]The-Bleeding-Obvious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]suzigirl[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Arthur Maureen[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bournemouth87[/bold] wrote: I see no problem with the bike ride, however I do have problems with the attitude of some of the cyclists. I seen a child knocked down by a group of cyclist klast time and not one stopped to help. I am suprised that hasnt been made public. The cyclists need to be a bit more careful off the public and not think that this day is all about them. I see why people whinge about cyclists, they are a law upon themselves. I will be down there dog walking and filiming the event, and we will see who is in the wrong from the footage gathered.[/p][/quote]What a sad case[/p][/quote]Not as sad as you![/p][/quote]Err, careful who you call sad, I think you must hold the record for being the commenter that's attracted, by far, the most 'thumbs down'![/p][/quote]....that's across all threads but you must be tops when it's anything to do with cycling. The-Bleeding-Obvious
  • Score: 12

3:15pm Fri 11 Apr 14

retry69 says...

Right o if any of you 2000+ cyclists are reading these comments and taking any notice I wish you a safe and enjoyable couple of days.
Right o if any of you 2000+ cyclists are reading these comments and taking any notice I wish you a safe and enjoyable couple of days. retry69
  • Score: 1

3:15pm Fri 11 Apr 14

suzigirl says...

The-Bleeding-Obvious wrote:
The-Bleeding-Obvious wrote:
suzigirl wrote:
Arthur Maureen wrote:
Bournemouth87 wrote: I see no problem with the bike ride, however I do have problems with the attitude of some of the cyclists. I seen a child knocked down by a group of cyclist klast time and not one stopped to help. I am suprised that hasnt been made public. The cyclists need to be a bit more careful off the public and not think that this day is all about them. I see why people whinge about cyclists, they are a law upon themselves. I will be down there dog walking and filiming the event, and we will see who is in the wrong from the footage gathered.
What a sad case
Not as sad as you!
Err, careful who you call sad, I think you must hold the record for being the commenter that's attracted, by far, the most 'thumbs down'!
....that's across all threads but you must be tops when it's anything to do with cycling.
What a sad case (using your words). I didn't think you could count past 10.......
[quote][p][bold]The-Bleeding-Obvious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The-Bleeding-Obvious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]suzigirl[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Arthur Maureen[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bournemouth87[/bold] wrote: I see no problem with the bike ride, however I do have problems with the attitude of some of the cyclists. I seen a child knocked down by a group of cyclist klast time and not one stopped to help. I am suprised that hasnt been made public. The cyclists need to be a bit more careful off the public and not think that this day is all about them. I see why people whinge about cyclists, they are a law upon themselves. I will be down there dog walking and filiming the event, and we will see who is in the wrong from the footage gathered.[/p][/quote]What a sad case[/p][/quote]Not as sad as you![/p][/quote]Err, careful who you call sad, I think you must hold the record for being the commenter that's attracted, by far, the most 'thumbs down'![/p][/quote]....that's across all threads but you must be tops when it's anything to do with cycling.[/p][/quote]What a sad case (using your words). I didn't think you could count past 10....... suzigirl
  • Score: -15

4:33pm Fri 11 Apr 14

JackJohnson says...

So, all you eco-warriors. Your carbon footprints are something to behold, when you're travelling to and from work, not using the car. But when so many of you will be strapping your bikes to roof-racks and driving up to hundreds of miles to get to this abuse of public space you are undoing all the good work. How about organising events nearer your own homes so you can cycle to them. Smaller events that will not create such a nuisance for residents and other tourists.

Get yourselves organised to be less of a nuisance - otherwise you'll, finally, be organised by enforced legislation.

You know it makes sense.
So, all you eco-warriors. Your carbon footprints are something to behold, when you're travelling to and from work, not using the car. But when so many of you will be strapping your bikes to roof-racks and driving up to hundreds of miles to get to this abuse of public space you are undoing all the good work. How about organising events nearer your own homes so you can cycle to them. Smaller events that will not create such a nuisance for residents and other tourists. Get yourselves organised to be less of a nuisance - otherwise you'll, finally, be organised by enforced legislation. You know it makes sense. JackJohnson
  • Score: -21

5:00pm Fri 11 Apr 14

suzigirl says...

JackJohnson wrote:
So, all you eco-warriors. Your carbon footprints are something to behold, when you're travelling to and from work, not using the car. But when so many of you will be strapping your bikes to roof-racks and driving up to hundreds of miles to get to this abuse of public space you are undoing all the good work. How about organising events nearer your own homes so you can cycle to them. Smaller events that will not create such a nuisance for residents and other tourists. Get yourselves organised to be less of a nuisance - otherwise you'll, finally, be organised by enforced legislation. You know it makes sense.
Well said......I wonder how many thumbs down you will get......
[quote][p][bold]JackJohnson[/bold] wrote: So, all you eco-warriors. Your carbon footprints are something to behold, when you're travelling to and from work, not using the car. But when so many of you will be strapping your bikes to roof-racks and driving up to hundreds of miles to get to this abuse of public space you are undoing all the good work. How about organising events nearer your own homes so you can cycle to them. Smaller events that will not create such a nuisance for residents and other tourists. Get yourselves organised to be less of a nuisance - otherwise you'll, finally, be organised by enforced legislation. You know it makes sense.[/p][/quote]Well said......I wonder how many thumbs down you will get...... suzigirl
  • Score: -22

5:45pm Fri 11 Apr 14

boardsandphotos says...

JackJohnson wrote:
So, all you eco-warriors. Your carbon footprints are something to behold, when you're travelling to and from work, not using the car. But when so many of you will be strapping your bikes to roof-racks and driving up to hundreds of miles to get to this abuse of public space you are undoing all the good work. How about organising events nearer your own homes so you can cycle to them. Smaller events that will not create such a nuisance for residents and other tourists.

Get yourselves organised to be less of a nuisance - otherwise you'll, finally, be organised by enforced legislation.

You know it makes sense.
I commute to work every day by bike, that's about 1500 miles a year banked up. I'd be hard pressed to 'undo' all that hard work just by attending a couple of events a year.

BUT Imagine if every biker read your comment and just said yeah you know what it's a waste of time, I'll drive to work tomorrow, how many more cars on the road would that be? How much worse would the traffic be? Who is more affected by that? YOU! Every single day!

What would you prefer, an extra few thousand cars on the road EVERY morning and evening or cyclists continuing to do what they do, which is by and large keep out your way, reduce traffic on the roads for most of the year and then just for a few weekends a year cause some minor disruption in a few rural towns and villages while at the same time spending money in B&B's, Pubs, Camp Sites, local shops etc AND raising money for charity all at the same time.

You know it makes sense.
[quote][p][bold]JackJohnson[/bold] wrote: So, all you eco-warriors. Your carbon footprints are something to behold, when you're travelling to and from work, not using the car. But when so many of you will be strapping your bikes to roof-racks and driving up to hundreds of miles to get to this abuse of public space you are undoing all the good work. How about organising events nearer your own homes so you can cycle to them. Smaller events that will not create such a nuisance for residents and other tourists. Get yourselves organised to be less of a nuisance - otherwise you'll, finally, be organised by enforced legislation. You know it makes sense.[/p][/quote]I commute to work every day by bike, that's about 1500 miles a year banked up. I'd be hard pressed to 'undo' all that hard work just by attending a couple of events a year. BUT Imagine if every biker read your comment and just said yeah you know what it's a waste of time, I'll drive to work tomorrow, how many more cars on the road would that be? How much worse would the traffic be? Who is more affected by that? YOU! Every single day! What would you prefer, an extra few thousand cars on the road EVERY morning and evening or cyclists continuing to do what they do, which is by and large keep out your way, reduce traffic on the roads for most of the year and then just for a few weekends a year cause some minor disruption in a few rural towns and villages while at the same time spending money in B&B's, Pubs, Camp Sites, local shops etc AND raising money for charity all at the same time. You know it makes sense. boardsandphotos
  • Score: 21

5:54pm Fri 11 Apr 14

JackJohnson says...

boardsandphotos wrote:
JackJohnson wrote:
So, all you eco-warriors. Your carbon footprints are something to behold, when you're travelling to and from work, not using the car. But when so many of you will be strapping your bikes to roof-racks and driving up to hundreds of miles to get to this abuse of public space you are undoing all the good work. How about organising events nearer your own homes so you can cycle to them. Smaller events that will not create such a nuisance for residents and other tourists.

Get yourselves organised to be less of a nuisance - otherwise you'll, finally, be organised by enforced legislation.

You know it makes sense.
I commute to work every day by bike, that's about 1500 miles a year banked up. I'd be hard pressed to 'undo' all that hard work just by attending a couple of events a year.

BUT Imagine if every biker read your comment and just said yeah you know what it's a waste of time, I'll drive to work tomorrow, how many more cars on the road would that be? How much worse would the traffic be? Who is more affected by that? YOU! Every single day!

What would you prefer, an extra few thousand cars on the road EVERY morning and evening or cyclists continuing to do what they do, which is by and large keep out your way, reduce traffic on the roads for most of the year and then just for a few weekends a year cause some minor disruption in a few rural towns and villages while at the same time spending money in B&B's, Pubs, Camp Sites, local shops etc AND raising money for charity all at the same time.

You know it makes sense.
What a pillock. Do you have any comprehension what-so-ever? Read, and understand. Using your bicycle to travel to and from work is commendable. Stickiing your bike on a rack and driving it to events that cause a nuisance to so many people and add to you carbon footprint for something so unnecessary is not.

These events should be banned. In time they'll cause so much trouble that they will be.
[quote][p][bold]boardsandphotos[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JackJohnson[/bold] wrote: So, all you eco-warriors. Your carbon footprints are something to behold, when you're travelling to and from work, not using the car. But when so many of you will be strapping your bikes to roof-racks and driving up to hundreds of miles to get to this abuse of public space you are undoing all the good work. How about organising events nearer your own homes so you can cycle to them. Smaller events that will not create such a nuisance for residents and other tourists. Get yourselves organised to be less of a nuisance - otherwise you'll, finally, be organised by enforced legislation. You know it makes sense.[/p][/quote]I commute to work every day by bike, that's about 1500 miles a year banked up. I'd be hard pressed to 'undo' all that hard work just by attending a couple of events a year. BUT Imagine if every biker read your comment and just said yeah you know what it's a waste of time, I'll drive to work tomorrow, how many more cars on the road would that be? How much worse would the traffic be? Who is more affected by that? YOU! Every single day! What would you prefer, an extra few thousand cars on the road EVERY morning and evening or cyclists continuing to do what they do, which is by and large keep out your way, reduce traffic on the roads for most of the year and then just for a few weekends a year cause some minor disruption in a few rural towns and villages while at the same time spending money in B&B's, Pubs, Camp Sites, local shops etc AND raising money for charity all at the same time. You know it makes sense.[/p][/quote]What a pillock. Do you have any comprehension what-so-ever? Read, and understand. Using your bicycle to travel to and from work is commendable. Stickiing your bike on a rack and driving it to events that cause a nuisance to so many people and add to you carbon footprint for something so unnecessary is not. These events should be banned. In time they'll cause so much trouble that they will be. JackJohnson
  • Score: -24

6:13pm Fri 11 Apr 14

boardsandphotos says...

JackJohnson wrote:
boardsandphotos wrote:
JackJohnson wrote:
So, all you eco-warriors. Your carbon footprints are something to behold, when you're travelling to and from work, not using the car. But when so many of you will be strapping your bikes to roof-racks and driving up to hundreds of miles to get to this abuse of public space you are undoing all the good work. How about organising events nearer your own homes so you can cycle to them. Smaller events that will not create such a nuisance for residents and other tourists.

Get yourselves organised to be less of a nuisance - otherwise you'll, finally, be organised by enforced legislation.

You know it makes sense.
I commute to work every day by bike, that's about 1500 miles a year banked up. I'd be hard pressed to 'undo' all that hard work just by attending a couple of events a year.

BUT Imagine if every biker read your comment and just said yeah you know what it's a waste of time, I'll drive to work tomorrow, how many more cars on the road would that be? How much worse would the traffic be? Who is more affected by that? YOU! Every single day!

What would you prefer, an extra few thousand cars on the road EVERY morning and evening or cyclists continuing to do what they do, which is by and large keep out your way, reduce traffic on the roads for most of the year and then just for a few weekends a year cause some minor disruption in a few rural towns and villages while at the same time spending money in B&B's, Pubs, Camp Sites, local shops etc AND raising money for charity all at the same time.

You know it makes sense.
What a pillock. Do you have any comprehension what-so-ever? Read, and understand. Using your bicycle to travel to and from work is commendable. Stickiing your bike on a rack and driving it to events that cause a nuisance to so many people and add to you carbon footprint for something so unnecessary is not.

These events should be banned. In time they'll cause so much trouble that they will be.
Oh so your fine for cyclists commuting then, breathing in dirty air on the rat run to work, it's not that much fun for us but it's OK for you because hey! you know it's one less car you have to queue behind on your way to work.

But Heaven forbid we might all want to get together in a big open space in the fresh air and have some fun once in a while, promoting healthy living, as well as helping small businesses and also raise some money for charity, no no we can't do that just because a small number of people might be a little inconvenienced for a couple of weekends a year.

If you want to preach about carbon footprint then take a look at car drivers, how many single occupancy vehicles on the road all the time? How many unnecessary short trips taken every day down to laziness, how many car share schemes are ignored at work because people are just to selfish and lazy to try and make something other than having your own car all to yourself even though you are sat in a queue full of single occupancy vehicles all heading to the same school, town, business park.

When you've sorted that out then you can come to us and preach about carbon footprint.
[quote][p][bold]JackJohnson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]boardsandphotos[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JackJohnson[/bold] wrote: So, all you eco-warriors. Your carbon footprints are something to behold, when you're travelling to and from work, not using the car. But when so many of you will be strapping your bikes to roof-racks and driving up to hundreds of miles to get to this abuse of public space you are undoing all the good work. How about organising events nearer your own homes so you can cycle to them. Smaller events that will not create such a nuisance for residents and other tourists. Get yourselves organised to be less of a nuisance - otherwise you'll, finally, be organised by enforced legislation. You know it makes sense.[/p][/quote]I commute to work every day by bike, that's about 1500 miles a year banked up. I'd be hard pressed to 'undo' all that hard work just by attending a couple of events a year. BUT Imagine if every biker read your comment and just said yeah you know what it's a waste of time, I'll drive to work tomorrow, how many more cars on the road would that be? How much worse would the traffic be? Who is more affected by that? YOU! Every single day! What would you prefer, an extra few thousand cars on the road EVERY morning and evening or cyclists continuing to do what they do, which is by and large keep out your way, reduce traffic on the roads for most of the year and then just for a few weekends a year cause some minor disruption in a few rural towns and villages while at the same time spending money in B&B's, Pubs, Camp Sites, local shops etc AND raising money for charity all at the same time. You know it makes sense.[/p][/quote]What a pillock. Do you have any comprehension what-so-ever? Read, and understand. Using your bicycle to travel to and from work is commendable. Stickiing your bike on a rack and driving it to events that cause a nuisance to so many people and add to you carbon footprint for something so unnecessary is not. These events should be banned. In time they'll cause so much trouble that they will be.[/p][/quote]Oh so your fine for cyclists commuting then, breathing in dirty air on the rat run to work, it's not that much fun for us but it's OK for you because hey! you know it's one less car you have to queue behind on your way to work. But Heaven forbid we might all want to get together in a big open space in the fresh air and have some fun once in a while, promoting healthy living, as well as helping small businesses and also raise some money for charity, no no we can't do that just because a small number of people might be a little inconvenienced for a couple of weekends a year. If you want to preach about carbon footprint then take a look at car drivers, how many single occupancy vehicles on the road all the time? How many unnecessary short trips taken every day down to laziness, how many car share schemes are ignored at work because people are just to selfish and lazy to try and make something other than having your own car all to yourself even though you are sat in a queue full of single occupancy vehicles all heading to the same school, town, business park. When you've sorted that out then you can come to us and preach about carbon footprint. boardsandphotos
  • Score: 7

6:13pm Fri 11 Apr 14

JackJohnson says...

suzigirl wrote:
JackJohnson wrote:
So, all you eco-warriors. Your carbon footprints are something to behold, when you're travelling to and from work, not using the car. But when so many of you will be strapping your bikes to roof-racks and driving up to hundreds of miles to get to this abuse of public space you are undoing all the good work. How about organising events nearer your own homes so you can cycle to them. Smaller events that will not create such a nuisance for residents and other tourists. Get yourselves organised to be less of a nuisance - otherwise you'll, finally, be organised by enforced legislation. You know it makes sense.
Well said......I wonder how many thumbs down you will get......
I know I'm far from alone in wanting cyclists to start behaving responsibly. Use cycle paths where they exist, ride the correct way on one way streets, observe and obey red lights, travel at a sensible speed on shared routes etc etc;

Organise gatherings to promote cycling, by all means. But call a time trial what it is - a race. Against the clock, but still a race and therefore illegal. Make the gatherings local, and not so big that they are severely disrupitive to locals and other tourists. Cycling is not meant to be intrusive.

The way they're behaving at present they really are louts in lycra, judged by the majority of law abiding pedestrians, motorists and motorcyclists. Cyclists are turning cycling into something perceived to be for lawless mavericks with no respect for anyone, or anything. They're driving potential cyclists away. To get more people on their bikes they need to regain the moral high ground by following the rules that already exist, and showing a little respect. They need non-cyclists to start thinking "I want to do that."

As for the number of thumbs down I'm expecting, I know that cyclists will be sharing the link to this story so I'm not expecting to be Mr Popular.
[quote][p][bold]suzigirl[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JackJohnson[/bold] wrote: So, all you eco-warriors. Your carbon footprints are something to behold, when you're travelling to and from work, not using the car. But when so many of you will be strapping your bikes to roof-racks and driving up to hundreds of miles to get to this abuse of public space you are undoing all the good work. How about organising events nearer your own homes so you can cycle to them. Smaller events that will not create such a nuisance for residents and other tourists. Get yourselves organised to be less of a nuisance - otherwise you'll, finally, be organised by enforced legislation. You know it makes sense.[/p][/quote]Well said......I wonder how many thumbs down you will get......[/p][/quote]I know I'm far from alone in wanting cyclists to start behaving responsibly. Use cycle paths where they exist, ride the correct way on one way streets, observe and obey red lights, travel at a sensible speed on shared routes etc etc; Organise gatherings to promote cycling, by all means. But call a time trial what it is - a race. Against the clock, but still a race and therefore illegal. Make the gatherings local, and not so big that they are severely disrupitive to locals and other tourists. Cycling is not meant to be intrusive. The way they're behaving at present they really are louts in lycra, judged by the majority of law abiding pedestrians, motorists and motorcyclists. Cyclists are turning cycling into something perceived to be for lawless mavericks with no respect for anyone, or anything. They're driving potential cyclists away. To get more people on their bikes they need to regain the moral high ground by following the rules that already exist, and showing a little respect. They need non-cyclists to start thinking "I want to do that." As for the number of thumbs down I'm expecting, I know that cyclists will be sharing the link to this story so I'm not expecting to be Mr Popular. JackJohnson
  • Score: -3

6:20pm Fri 11 Apr 14

breamoreboy says...

boardsandphotos wrote:
Theo63 wrote:
When will people learn to live together in harmony!

I'm sure it's a small percentage of people who live in the New Forest who are objecting and I suspect some of them are "persistent/vex

atiou
s complainants!

It would be good if we could harness and channel their energy into fighting causes that really do matter!
Yes there's enough hot wind coming from this bunch of moaners in the New Forest to make me think the Navitus WInd Farm should be relocated.
I suspect a lot of nostrils could get damaged by them, "would you stand up please, your voices are rather muffled".
[quote][p][bold]boardsandphotos[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Theo63[/bold] wrote: When will people learn to live together in harmony! I'm sure it's a small percentage of people who live in the New Forest who are objecting and I suspect some of them are "persistent/vex atiou s complainants! It would be good if we could harness and channel their energy into fighting causes that really do matter![/p][/quote]Yes there's enough hot wind coming from this bunch of moaners in the New Forest to make me think the Navitus WInd Farm should be relocated.[/p][/quote]I suspect a lot of nostrils could get damaged by them, "would you stand up please, your voices are rather muffled". breamoreboy
  • Score: 0

6:28pm Fri 11 Apr 14

mythoughts! says...

who cares? cant we all get on together? its like being back in the school playground
who cares? cant we all get on together? its like being back in the school playground mythoughts!
  • Score: 4

6:32pm Fri 11 Apr 14

JackJohnson says...

boardsandphotos wrote:
JackJohnson wrote:
boardsandphotos wrote:
JackJohnson wrote:
So, all you eco-warriors. Your carbon footprints are something to behold, when you're travelling to and from work, not using the car. But when so many of you will be strapping your bikes to roof-racks and driving up to hundreds of miles to get to this abuse of public space you are undoing all the good work. How about organising events nearer your own homes so you can cycle to them. Smaller events that will not create such a nuisance for residents and other tourists.

Get yourselves organised to be less of a nuisance - otherwise you'll, finally, be organised by enforced legislation.

You know it makes sense.
I commute to work every day by bike, that's about 1500 miles a year banked up. I'd be hard pressed to 'undo' all that hard work just by attending a couple of events a year.

BUT Imagine if every biker read your comment and just said yeah you know what it's a waste of time, I'll drive to work tomorrow, how many more cars on the road would that be? How much worse would the traffic be? Who is more affected by that? YOU! Every single day!

What would you prefer, an extra few thousand cars on the road EVERY morning and evening or cyclists continuing to do what they do, which is by and large keep out your way, reduce traffic on the roads for most of the year and then just for a few weekends a year cause some minor disruption in a few rural towns and villages while at the same time spending money in B&B's, Pubs, Camp Sites, local shops etc AND raising money for charity all at the same time.

You know it makes sense.
What a pillock. Do you have any comprehension what-so-ever? Read, and understand. Using your bicycle to travel to and from work is commendable. Stickiing your bike on a rack and driving it to events that cause a nuisance to so many people and add to you carbon footprint for something so unnecessary is not.

These events should be banned. In time they'll cause so much trouble that they will be.
Oh so your fine for cyclists commuting then, breathing in dirty air on the rat run to work, it's not that much fun for us but it's OK for you because hey! you know it's one less car you have to queue behind on your way to work.

But Heaven forbid we might all want to get together in a big open space in the fresh air and have some fun once in a while, promoting healthy living, as well as helping small businesses and also raise some money for charity, no no we can't do that just because a small number of people might be a little inconvenienced for a couple of weekends a year.

If you want to preach about carbon footprint then take a look at car drivers, how many single occupancy vehicles on the road all the time? How many unnecessary short trips taken every day down to laziness, how many car share schemes are ignored at work because people are just to selfish and lazy to try and make something other than having your own car all to yourself even though you are sat in a queue full of single occupancy vehicles all heading to the same school, town, business park.

When you've sorted that out then you can come to us and preach about carbon footprint.
My carbon footprint is fine, sunshine. I work from home, so I'm not a lycra lout either.

When I do need to travel I usually need to carry upwards of 200lbs of equipment more than about 50 miles so using a bike would be unrealistic.
[quote][p][bold]boardsandphotos[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JackJohnson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]boardsandphotos[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JackJohnson[/bold] wrote: So, all you eco-warriors. Your carbon footprints are something to behold, when you're travelling to and from work, not using the car. But when so many of you will be strapping your bikes to roof-racks and driving up to hundreds of miles to get to this abuse of public space you are undoing all the good work. How about organising events nearer your own homes so you can cycle to them. Smaller events that will not create such a nuisance for residents and other tourists. Get yourselves organised to be less of a nuisance - otherwise you'll, finally, be organised by enforced legislation. You know it makes sense.[/p][/quote]I commute to work every day by bike, that's about 1500 miles a year banked up. I'd be hard pressed to 'undo' all that hard work just by attending a couple of events a year. BUT Imagine if every biker read your comment and just said yeah you know what it's a waste of time, I'll drive to work tomorrow, how many more cars on the road would that be? How much worse would the traffic be? Who is more affected by that? YOU! Every single day! What would you prefer, an extra few thousand cars on the road EVERY morning and evening or cyclists continuing to do what they do, which is by and large keep out your way, reduce traffic on the roads for most of the year and then just for a few weekends a year cause some minor disruption in a few rural towns and villages while at the same time spending money in B&B's, Pubs, Camp Sites, local shops etc AND raising money for charity all at the same time. You know it makes sense.[/p][/quote]What a pillock. Do you have any comprehension what-so-ever? Read, and understand. Using your bicycle to travel to and from work is commendable. Stickiing your bike on a rack and driving it to events that cause a nuisance to so many people and add to you carbon footprint for something so unnecessary is not. These events should be banned. In time they'll cause so much trouble that they will be.[/p][/quote]Oh so your fine for cyclists commuting then, breathing in dirty air on the rat run to work, it's not that much fun for us but it's OK for you because hey! you know it's one less car you have to queue behind on your way to work. But Heaven forbid we might all want to get together in a big open space in the fresh air and have some fun once in a while, promoting healthy living, as well as helping small businesses and also raise some money for charity, no no we can't do that just because a small number of people might be a little inconvenienced for a couple of weekends a year. If you want to preach about carbon footprint then take a look at car drivers, how many single occupancy vehicles on the road all the time? How many unnecessary short trips taken every day down to laziness, how many car share schemes are ignored at work because people are just to selfish and lazy to try and make something other than having your own car all to yourself even though you are sat in a queue full of single occupancy vehicles all heading to the same school, town, business park. When you've sorted that out then you can come to us and preach about carbon footprint.[/p][/quote]My carbon footprint is fine, sunshine. I work from home, so I'm not a lycra lout either. When I do need to travel I usually need to carry upwards of 200lbs of equipment more than about 50 miles so using a bike would be unrealistic. JackJohnson
  • Score: -4

6:44pm Fri 11 Apr 14

scrumpyjack says...

Ash_69 wrote:
Cyclists out.

The New Forest should be for locals only. Horse riding and hunting comes first.

I'm more important than you and live in Burley so listen to me!!

Off to the hardware shop later this morning then for me...









;)
I down voted you thinking you were serious. My bad.
[quote][p][bold]Ash_69[/bold] wrote: Cyclists out. The New Forest should be for locals only. Horse riding and hunting comes first. I'm more important than you and live in Burley so listen to me!! Off to the hardware shop later this morning then for me... ;)[/p][/quote]I down voted you thinking you were serious. My bad. scrumpyjack
  • Score: -1

6:52pm Fri 11 Apr 14

scrumpyjack says...

suzigirl wrote:
All cyclists obey the law at all times, are a very friendly bunch of people, are not abusive and only cycle on the roads and cycle lanes - utter fiction......
Like all bikers?

Especially those with 50cc mopeds and L plates.
[quote][p][bold]suzigirl[/bold] wrote: All cyclists obey the law at all times, are a very friendly bunch of people, are not abusive and only cycle on the roads and cycle lanes - utter fiction......[/p][/quote]Like all bikers? Especially those with 50cc mopeds and L plates. scrumpyjack
  • Score: 5

7:11pm Fri 11 Apr 14

Ayles 10 says...

kingstonpaul wrote:
Pathetic. So what exactly are these 'risks to the public'? It soooo depresses me when the 'risks to humanity' card is played. These New Forest residents are showing all the tribal instincts of animals, peeing over their territory with their pitiful signs.
Come on people, 2,000 cyclists really isn't such a huge number. After all, 16,000 turned out for Ride London last year; this weekend 25,000 runners will take to London streets
THIS IS NOT LONDON!
[quote][p][bold]kingstonpaul[/bold] wrote: Pathetic. So what exactly are these 'risks to the public'? It soooo depresses me when the 'risks to humanity' card is played. These New Forest residents are showing all the tribal instincts of animals, peeing over their territory with their pitiful signs. Come on people, 2,000 cyclists really isn't such a huge number. After all, 16,000 turned out for Ride London last year; this weekend 25,000 runners will take to London streets[/p][/quote]THIS IS NOT LONDON! Ayles 10
  • Score: -5

8:01pm Fri 11 Apr 14

scrumpyjack says...

JackJohnson wrote:
suzigirl wrote:
JackJohnson wrote:
So, all you eco-warriors. Your carbon footprints are something to behold, when you're travelling to and from work, not using the car. But when so many of you will be strapping your bikes to roof-racks and driving up to hundreds of miles to get to this abuse of public space you are undoing all the good work. How about organising events nearer your own homes so you can cycle to them. Smaller events that will not create such a nuisance for residents and other tourists. Get yourselves organised to be less of a nuisance - otherwise you'll, finally, be organised by enforced legislation. You know it makes sense.
Well said......I wonder how many thumbs down you will get......
I know I'm far from alone in wanting cyclists to start behaving responsibly. Use cycle paths where they exist, ride the correct way on one way streets, observe and obey red lights, travel at a sensible speed on shared routes etc etc;

Organise gatherings to promote cycling, by all means. But call a time trial what it is - a race. Against the clock, but still a race and therefore illegal. Make the gatherings local, and not so big that they are severely disrupitive to locals and other tourists. Cycling is not meant to be intrusive.

The way they're behaving at present they really are louts in lycra, judged by the majority of law abiding pedestrians, motorists and motorcyclists. Cyclists are turning cycling into something perceived to be for lawless mavericks with no respect for anyone, or anything. They're driving potential cyclists away. To get more people on their bikes they need to regain the moral high ground by following the rules that already exist, and showing a little respect. They need non-cyclists to start thinking "I want to do that."

As for the number of thumbs down I'm expecting, I know that cyclists will be sharing the link to this story so I'm not expecting to be Mr Popular.
I'm not a cyclist and still think your comments are ridiculous and clichéd.

Have a down vote.
[quote][p][bold]JackJohnson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]suzigirl[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JackJohnson[/bold] wrote: So, all you eco-warriors. Your carbon footprints are something to behold, when you're travelling to and from work, not using the car. But when so many of you will be strapping your bikes to roof-racks and driving up to hundreds of miles to get to this abuse of public space you are undoing all the good work. How about organising events nearer your own homes so you can cycle to them. Smaller events that will not create such a nuisance for residents and other tourists. Get yourselves organised to be less of a nuisance - otherwise you'll, finally, be organised by enforced legislation. You know it makes sense.[/p][/quote]Well said......I wonder how many thumbs down you will get......[/p][/quote]I know I'm far from alone in wanting cyclists to start behaving responsibly. Use cycle paths where they exist, ride the correct way on one way streets, observe and obey red lights, travel at a sensible speed on shared routes etc etc; Organise gatherings to promote cycling, by all means. But call a time trial what it is - a race. Against the clock, but still a race and therefore illegal. Make the gatherings local, and not so big that they are severely disrupitive to locals and other tourists. Cycling is not meant to be intrusive. The way they're behaving at present they really are louts in lycra, judged by the majority of law abiding pedestrians, motorists and motorcyclists. Cyclists are turning cycling into something perceived to be for lawless mavericks with no respect for anyone, or anything. They're driving potential cyclists away. To get more people on their bikes they need to regain the moral high ground by following the rules that already exist, and showing a little respect. They need non-cyclists to start thinking "I want to do that." As for the number of thumbs down I'm expecting, I know that cyclists will be sharing the link to this story so I'm not expecting to be Mr Popular.[/p][/quote]I'm not a cyclist and still think your comments are ridiculous and clichéd. Have a down vote. scrumpyjack
  • Score: 15

8:03pm Fri 11 Apr 14

scrumpyjack says...

suzigirl wrote:
JackJohnson wrote:
So, all you eco-warriors. Your carbon footprints are something to behold, when you're travelling to and from work, not using the car. But when so many of you will be strapping your bikes to roof-racks and driving up to hundreds of miles to get to this abuse of public space you are undoing all the good work. How about organising events nearer your own homes so you can cycle to them. Smaller events that will not create such a nuisance for residents and other tourists. Get yourselves organised to be less of a nuisance - otherwise you'll, finally, be organised by enforced legislation. You know it makes sense.
Well said......I wonder how many thumbs down you will get......
Look at the 2 patting themselves on the back.

Says all we need to know.
[quote][p][bold]suzigirl[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JackJohnson[/bold] wrote: So, all you eco-warriors. Your carbon footprints are something to behold, when you're travelling to and from work, not using the car. But when so many of you will be strapping your bikes to roof-racks and driving up to hundreds of miles to get to this abuse of public space you are undoing all the good work. How about organising events nearer your own homes so you can cycle to them. Smaller events that will not create such a nuisance for residents and other tourists. Get yourselves organised to be less of a nuisance - otherwise you'll, finally, be organised by enforced legislation. You know it makes sense.[/p][/quote]Well said......I wonder how many thumbs down you will get......[/p][/quote]Look at the 2 patting themselves on the back. Says all we need to know. scrumpyjack
  • Score: 5

8:06pm Fri 11 Apr 14

scrumpyjack says...

Ayles 10 wrote:
kingstonpaul wrote:
Pathetic. So what exactly are these 'risks to the public'? It soooo depresses me when the 'risks to humanity' card is played. These New Forest residents are showing all the tribal instincts of animals, peeing over their territory with their pitiful signs.
Come on people, 2,000 cyclists really isn't such a huge number. After all, 16,000 turned out for Ride London last year; this weekend 25,000 runners will take to London streets
THIS IS NOT LONDON!
You're right we have way more space than them; good point....(though no need to shout)
[quote][p][bold]Ayles 10[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kingstonpaul[/bold] wrote: Pathetic. So what exactly are these 'risks to the public'? It soooo depresses me when the 'risks to humanity' card is played. These New Forest residents are showing all the tribal instincts of animals, peeing over their territory with their pitiful signs. Come on people, 2,000 cyclists really isn't such a huge number. After all, 16,000 turned out for Ride London last year; this weekend 25,000 runners will take to London streets[/p][/quote]THIS IS NOT LONDON![/p][/quote]You're right we have way more space than them; good point....(though no need to shout) scrumpyjack
  • Score: 12

8:07pm Fri 11 Apr 14

sprintervanman says...

If only motorized vehicles in mass are welcome into the New Forest then that's solved the problem of the Travelers sites for Bournemouth and Poole.Plenty of space for the Travelers,they own large 4x4's for the Caravans so no risk of arriving on a bicycle in large numbers.Well if the point of a National Park is for all to enjoy which it obviously is not seen that way by the locals, you may as put the land to another use.
If only motorized vehicles in mass are welcome into the New Forest then that's solved the problem of the Travelers sites for Bournemouth and Poole.Plenty of space for the Travelers,they own large 4x4's for the Caravans so no risk of arriving on a bicycle in large numbers.Well if the point of a National Park is for all to enjoy which it obviously is not seen that way by the locals, you may as put the land to another use. sprintervanman
  • Score: 6

8:46pm Fri 11 Apr 14

STRIPEY51 says...

Bike riders are a bloody menace on the road, to start with they should only ride single file and not get in a bunch all over the road, they should all have to wear hi/visibility jackets by law, no wonder so many get killed and inured each year, and abide by the hi way code in traffic.
Bike riders are a bloody menace on the road, to start with they should only ride single file and not get in a bunch all over the road, they should all have to wear hi/visibility jackets by law, no wonder so many get killed and inured each year, and abide by the hi way code in traffic. STRIPEY51
  • Score: -16

9:23pm Fri 11 Apr 14

breamoreboy says...

FNS-man wrote:
The roads are brought to a standstill twice a day, five days a week by cars. Cars also kill pedestrians, cyclists and ponies in the forest. Maybe we should be looking at doing something about that instead.
Please note that some roads are brought to a standstill once a day at bank holiday weekends, with the standstill being permanent, or so it seems.
[quote][p][bold]FNS-man[/bold] wrote: The roads are brought to a standstill twice a day, five days a week by cars. Cars also kill pedestrians, cyclists and ponies in the forest. Maybe we should be looking at doing something about that instead.[/p][/quote]Please note that some roads are brought to a standstill once a day at bank holiday weekends, with the standstill being permanent, or so it seems. breamoreboy
  • Score: 6

9:32pm Fri 11 Apr 14

breamoreboy says...

JackJohnson wrote:
suzigirl wrote:
JackJohnson wrote:
So, all you eco-warriors. Your carbon footprints are something to behold, when you're travelling to and from work, not using the car. But when so many of you will be strapping your bikes to roof-racks and driving up to hundreds of miles to get to this abuse of public space you are undoing all the good work. How about organising events nearer your own homes so you can cycle to them. Smaller events that will not create such a nuisance for residents and other tourists. Get yourselves organised to be less of a nuisance - otherwise you'll, finally, be organised by enforced legislation. You know it makes sense.
Well said......I wonder how many thumbs down you will get......
I know I'm far from alone in wanting cyclists to start behaving responsibly. Use cycle paths where they exist, ride the correct way on one way streets, observe and obey red lights, travel at a sensible speed on shared routes etc etc;

Organise gatherings to promote cycling, by all means. But call a time trial what it is - a race. Against the clock, but still a race and therefore illegal. Make the gatherings local, and not so big that they are severely disrupitive to locals and other tourists. Cycling is not meant to be intrusive.

The way they're behaving at present they really are louts in lycra, judged by the majority of law abiding pedestrians, motorists and motorcyclists. Cyclists are turning cycling into something perceived to be for lawless mavericks with no respect for anyone, or anything. They're driving potential cyclists away. To get more people on their bikes they need to regain the moral high ground by following the rules that already exist, and showing a little respect. They need non-cyclists to start thinking "I want to do that."

As for the number of thumbs down I'm expecting, I know that cyclists will be sharing the link to this story so I'm not expecting to be Mr Popular.
I just wish I'd called the police when some complete burke knocked me off my bike on the Purewell Cross roundabout. I guess I was so shocked and grateful to get up in one piece that I wasn't thinking straight. What I thought funny about it was that my bike was left lying in the middle of the road with the lights flashing away like merry hell, so how could bozo chops have possibly not seen them, short of having his eyes closed? Do I think that cars should be banned? No. Do I think that all car drivers are useless? No. Funnily enough I think the same thing about bikes and cyclists, but clearly my common sense approach doesn't belong on these pages.
[quote][p][bold]JackJohnson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]suzigirl[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JackJohnson[/bold] wrote: So, all you eco-warriors. Your carbon footprints are something to behold, when you're travelling to and from work, not using the car. But when so many of you will be strapping your bikes to roof-racks and driving up to hundreds of miles to get to this abuse of public space you are undoing all the good work. How about organising events nearer your own homes so you can cycle to them. Smaller events that will not create such a nuisance for residents and other tourists. Get yourselves organised to be less of a nuisance - otherwise you'll, finally, be organised by enforced legislation. You know it makes sense.[/p][/quote]Well said......I wonder how many thumbs down you will get......[/p][/quote]I know I'm far from alone in wanting cyclists to start behaving responsibly. Use cycle paths where they exist, ride the correct way on one way streets, observe and obey red lights, travel at a sensible speed on shared routes etc etc; Organise gatherings to promote cycling, by all means. But call a time trial what it is - a race. Against the clock, but still a race and therefore illegal. Make the gatherings local, and not so big that they are severely disrupitive to locals and other tourists. Cycling is not meant to be intrusive. The way they're behaving at present they really are louts in lycra, judged by the majority of law abiding pedestrians, motorists and motorcyclists. Cyclists are turning cycling into something perceived to be for lawless mavericks with no respect for anyone, or anything. They're driving potential cyclists away. To get more people on their bikes they need to regain the moral high ground by following the rules that already exist, and showing a little respect. They need non-cyclists to start thinking "I want to do that." As for the number of thumbs down I'm expecting, I know that cyclists will be sharing the link to this story so I'm not expecting to be Mr Popular.[/p][/quote]I just wish I'd called the police when some complete burke knocked me off my bike on the Purewell Cross roundabout. I guess I was so shocked and grateful to get up in one piece that I wasn't thinking straight. What I thought funny about it was that my bike was left lying in the middle of the road with the lights flashing away like merry hell, so how could bozo chops have possibly not seen them, short of having his eyes closed? Do I think that cars should be banned? No. Do I think that all car drivers are useless? No. Funnily enough I think the same thing about bikes and cyclists, but clearly my common sense approach doesn't belong on these pages. breamoreboy
  • Score: 14

9:36pm Fri 11 Apr 14

eaststandman says...

mythoughts! wrote:
who cares? cant we all get on together? its like being back in the school playground
There were rules in the school playground. Let's hope the cyclists can read roadsigns on the Avon causeway.......other
wise this route will be catastrophic.
[quote][p][bold]mythoughts![/bold] wrote: who cares? cant we all get on together? its like being back in the school playground[/p][/quote]There were rules in the school playground. Let's hope the cyclists can read roadsigns on the Avon causeway.......other wise this route will be catastrophic. eaststandman
  • Score: -5

9:38pm Fri 11 Apr 14

breamoreboy says...

sprintervanman wrote:
If only motorized vehicles in mass are welcome into the New Forest then that's solved the problem of the Travelers sites for Bournemouth and Poole.Plenty of space for the Travelers,they own large 4x4's for the Caravans so no risk of arriving on a bicycle in large numbers.Well if the point of a National Park is for all to enjoy which it obviously is not seen that way by the locals, you may as put the land to another use.
Don't be stupid, that means that the poor little things might have to travel miles to do their thieving, hence breaching their human rights.
[quote][p][bold]sprintervanman[/bold] wrote: If only motorized vehicles in mass are welcome into the New Forest then that's solved the problem of the Travelers sites for Bournemouth and Poole.Plenty of space for the Travelers,they own large 4x4's for the Caravans so no risk of arriving on a bicycle in large numbers.Well if the point of a National Park is for all to enjoy which it obviously is not seen that way by the locals, you may as put the land to another use.[/p][/quote]Don't be stupid, that means that the poor little things might have to travel miles to do their thieving, hence breaching their human rights. breamoreboy
  • Score: 5

9:49pm Fri 11 Apr 14

louuuuuu says...

It's just two days!! Get a life everyone and find something more important and relevant to worry about.
It's just two days!! Get a life everyone and find something more important and relevant to worry about. louuuuuu
  • Score: 7

9:52pm Fri 11 Apr 14

rozmister says...

JackJohnson wrote:
suzigirl wrote:
JackJohnson wrote:
So, all you eco-warriors. Your carbon footprints are something to behold, when you're travelling to and from work, not using the car. But when so many of you will be strapping your bikes to roof-racks and driving up to hundreds of miles to get to this abuse of public space you are undoing all the good work. How about organising events nearer your own homes so you can cycle to them. Smaller events that will not create such a nuisance for residents and other tourists. Get yourselves organised to be less of a nuisance - otherwise you'll, finally, be organised by enforced legislation. You know it makes sense.
Well said......I wonder how many thumbs down you will get......
I know I'm far from alone in wanting cyclists to start behaving responsibly. Use cycle paths where they exist, ride the correct way on one way streets, observe and obey red lights, travel at a sensible speed on shared routes etc etc;

Organise gatherings to promote cycling, by all means. But call a time trial what it is - a race. Against the clock, but still a race and therefore illegal. Make the gatherings local, and not so big that they are severely disrupitive to locals and other tourists. Cycling is not meant to be intrusive.

The way they're behaving at present they really are louts in lycra, judged by the majority of law abiding pedestrians, motorists and motorcyclists. Cyclists are turning cycling into something perceived to be for lawless mavericks with no respect for anyone, or anything. They're driving potential cyclists away. To get more people on their bikes they need to regain the moral high ground by following the rules that already exist, and showing a little respect. They need non-cyclists to start thinking "I want to do that."

As for the number of thumbs down I'm expecting, I know that cyclists will be sharing the link to this story so I'm not expecting to be Mr Popular.
I can just about ride a bike on a good day in a quiet area off road so I'm not a cyclist and I second scrumpyjack's comment.

I'm a pedestrian and I come across inconsiderate dangerous louts both in cars and in lycra as well as on foot but they still make up a small minority of ALL people. It's the person that creates the problem not their mode of transport, cyclists don't need any additional regulation anymore than road users. The problem is idiocy and that can't be regulated by any law.
[quote][p][bold]JackJohnson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]suzigirl[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JackJohnson[/bold] wrote: So, all you eco-warriors. Your carbon footprints are something to behold, when you're travelling to and from work, not using the car. But when so many of you will be strapping your bikes to roof-racks and driving up to hundreds of miles to get to this abuse of public space you are undoing all the good work. How about organising events nearer your own homes so you can cycle to them. Smaller events that will not create such a nuisance for residents and other tourists. Get yourselves organised to be less of a nuisance - otherwise you'll, finally, be organised by enforced legislation. You know it makes sense.[/p][/quote]Well said......I wonder how many thumbs down you will get......[/p][/quote]I know I'm far from alone in wanting cyclists to start behaving responsibly. Use cycle paths where they exist, ride the correct way on one way streets, observe and obey red lights, travel at a sensible speed on shared routes etc etc; Organise gatherings to promote cycling, by all means. But call a time trial what it is - a race. Against the clock, but still a race and therefore illegal. Make the gatherings local, and not so big that they are severely disrupitive to locals and other tourists. Cycling is not meant to be intrusive. The way they're behaving at present they really are louts in lycra, judged by the majority of law abiding pedestrians, motorists and motorcyclists. Cyclists are turning cycling into something perceived to be for lawless mavericks with no respect for anyone, or anything. They're driving potential cyclists away. To get more people on their bikes they need to regain the moral high ground by following the rules that already exist, and showing a little respect. They need non-cyclists to start thinking "I want to do that." As for the number of thumbs down I'm expecting, I know that cyclists will be sharing the link to this story so I'm not expecting to be Mr Popular.[/p][/quote]I can just about ride a bike on a good day in a quiet area off road so I'm not a cyclist and I second scrumpyjack's comment. I'm a pedestrian and I come across inconsiderate dangerous louts both in cars and in lycra as well as on foot but they still make up a small minority of ALL people. It's the person that creates the problem not their mode of transport, cyclists don't need any additional regulation anymore than road users. The problem is idiocy and that can't be regulated by any law. rozmister
  • Score: 13

9:54pm Fri 11 Apr 14

sprintervanman says...

breamoreboy wrote:
sprintervanman wrote:
If only motorized vehicles in mass are welcome into the New Forest then that's solved the problem of the Travelers sites for Bournemouth and Poole.Plenty of space for the Travelers,they own large 4x4's for the Caravans so no risk of arriving on a bicycle in large numbers.Well if the point of a National Park is for all to enjoy which it obviously is not seen that way by the locals, you may as put the land to another use.
Don't be stupid, that means that the poor little things might have to travel miles to do their thieving, hence breaching their human rights.
Brilliant point made.The New Forest is miles from any significant place so a group of cyclists would really not be noticed and would be able to continue their journey and enjoy their Human Right to use a National Park :-)
[quote][p][bold]breamoreboy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sprintervanman[/bold] wrote: If only motorized vehicles in mass are welcome into the New Forest then that's solved the problem of the Travelers sites for Bournemouth and Poole.Plenty of space for the Travelers,they own large 4x4's for the Caravans so no risk of arriving on a bicycle in large numbers.Well if the point of a National Park is for all to enjoy which it obviously is not seen that way by the locals, you may as put the land to another use.[/p][/quote]Don't be stupid, that means that the poor little things might have to travel miles to do their thieving, hence breaching their human rights.[/p][/quote]Brilliant point made.The New Forest is miles from any significant place so a group of cyclists would really not be noticed and would be able to continue their journey and enjoy their Human Right to use a National Park :-) sprintervanman
  • Score: 5

10:18pm Fri 11 Apr 14

scrumpyjack says...

eaststandman wrote:
mythoughts! wrote:
who cares? cant we all get on together? its like being back in the school playground
There were rules in the school playground. Let's hope the cyclists can read roadsigns on the Avon causeway.......other

wise this route will be catastrophic.
Not like us motorists eh? We never break a goddam rule?

There is no such offence as Dangerous Driving, Driving Without Due Care and Attention, Drink Driving, Speeding, Failing To Stop, Driving While Disqualified, Causing Death by Careless/Drunk/Drugs
, Using a Defect and Dangerous Vehicle, Failing to Comply with Road Signs and on and on and on.
[quote][p][bold]eaststandman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mythoughts![/bold] wrote: who cares? cant we all get on together? its like being back in the school playground[/p][/quote]There were rules in the school playground. Let's hope the cyclists can read roadsigns on the Avon causeway.......other wise this route will be catastrophic.[/p][/quote]Not like us motorists eh? We never break a goddam rule? There is no such offence as Dangerous Driving, Driving Without Due Care and Attention, Drink Driving, Speeding, Failing To Stop, Driving While Disqualified, Causing Death by Careless/Drunk/Drugs , Using a Defect and Dangerous Vehicle, Failing to Comply with Road Signs and on and on and on. scrumpyjack
  • Score: 4

10:29pm Fri 11 Apr 14

Theo63 says...

JackJohnson wrote:
suzigirl wrote:
JackJohnson wrote:
So, all you eco-warriors. Your carbon footprints are something to behold, when you're travelling to and from work, not using the car. But when so many of you will be strapping your bikes to roof-racks and driving up to hundreds of miles to get to this abuse of public space you are undoing all the good work. How about organising events nearer your own homes so you can cycle to them. Smaller events that will not create such a nuisance for residents and other tourists. Get yourselves organised to be less of a nuisance - otherwise you'll, finally, be organised by enforced legislation. You know it makes sense.
Well said......I wonder how many thumbs down you will get......
I know I'm far from alone in wanting cyclists to start behaving responsibly. Use cycle paths where they exist, ride the correct way on one way streets, observe and obey red lights, travel at a sensible speed on shared routes etc etc;

Organise gatherings to promote cycling, by all means. But call a time trial what it is - a race. Against the clock, but still a race and therefore illegal. Make the gatherings local, and not so big that they are severely disrupitive to locals and other tourists. Cycling is not meant to be intrusive.

The way they're behaving at present they really are louts in lycra, judged by the majority of law abiding pedestrians, motorists and motorcyclists. Cyclists are turning cycling into something perceived to be for lawless mavericks with no respect for anyone, or anything. They're driving potential cyclists away. To get more people on their bikes they need to regain the moral high ground by following the rules that already exist, and showing a little respect. They need non-cyclists to start thinking "I want to do that."

As for the number of thumbs down I'm expecting, I know that cyclists will be sharing the link to this story so I'm not expecting to be Mr Popular.
I'm wondering how many cyclists you know personally? My husband is a keen cyclist and funnily enough also a pedestrian, motorcyclist, and motorist as is our daughter's boyfriend. They are both professional respectable people who wear lycra and have been inspired like many by the success of British Cycling in recent years.
[quote][p][bold]JackJohnson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]suzigirl[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JackJohnson[/bold] wrote: So, all you eco-warriors. Your carbon footprints are something to behold, when you're travelling to and from work, not using the car. But when so many of you will be strapping your bikes to roof-racks and driving up to hundreds of miles to get to this abuse of public space you are undoing all the good work. How about organising events nearer your own homes so you can cycle to them. Smaller events that will not create such a nuisance for residents and other tourists. Get yourselves organised to be less of a nuisance - otherwise you'll, finally, be organised by enforced legislation. You know it makes sense.[/p][/quote]Well said......I wonder how many thumbs down you will get......[/p][/quote]I know I'm far from alone in wanting cyclists to start behaving responsibly. Use cycle paths where they exist, ride the correct way on one way streets, observe and obey red lights, travel at a sensible speed on shared routes etc etc; Organise gatherings to promote cycling, by all means. But call a time trial what it is - a race. Against the clock, but still a race and therefore illegal. Make the gatherings local, and not so big that they are severely disrupitive to locals and other tourists. Cycling is not meant to be intrusive. The way they're behaving at present they really are louts in lycra, judged by the majority of law abiding pedestrians, motorists and motorcyclists. Cyclists are turning cycling into something perceived to be for lawless mavericks with no respect for anyone, or anything. They're driving potential cyclists away. To get more people on their bikes they need to regain the moral high ground by following the rules that already exist, and showing a little respect. They need non-cyclists to start thinking "I want to do that." As for the number of thumbs down I'm expecting, I know that cyclists will be sharing the link to this story so I'm not expecting to be Mr Popular.[/p][/quote]I'm wondering how many cyclists you know personally? My husband is a keen cyclist and funnily enough also a pedestrian, motorcyclist, and motorist as is our daughter's boyfriend. They are both professional respectable people who wear lycra and have been inspired like many by the success of British Cycling in recent years. Theo63
  • Score: 5

10:39pm Fri 11 Apr 14

JackJohnson says...

Theo63 wrote:
JackJohnson wrote:
suzigirl wrote:
JackJohnson wrote:
So, all you eco-warriors. Your carbon footprints are something to behold, when you're travelling to and from work, not using the car. But when so many of you will be strapping your bikes to roof-racks and driving up to hundreds of miles to get to this abuse of public space you are undoing all the good work. How about organising events nearer your own homes so you can cycle to them. Smaller events that will not create such a nuisance for residents and other tourists. Get yourselves organised to be less of a nuisance - otherwise you'll, finally, be organised by enforced legislation. You know it makes sense.
Well said......I wonder how many thumbs down you will get......
I know I'm far from alone in wanting cyclists to start behaving responsibly. Use cycle paths where they exist, ride the correct way on one way streets, observe and obey red lights, travel at a sensible speed on shared routes etc etc;

Organise gatherings to promote cycling, by all means. But call a time trial what it is - a race. Against the clock, but still a race and therefore illegal. Make the gatherings local, and not so big that they are severely disrupitive to locals and other tourists. Cycling is not meant to be intrusive.

The way they're behaving at present they really are louts in lycra, judged by the majority of law abiding pedestrians, motorists and motorcyclists. Cyclists are turning cycling into something perceived to be for lawless mavericks with no respect for anyone, or anything. They're driving potential cyclists away. To get more people on their bikes they need to regain the moral high ground by following the rules that already exist, and showing a little respect. They need non-cyclists to start thinking "I want to do that."

As for the number of thumbs down I'm expecting, I know that cyclists will be sharing the link to this story so I'm not expecting to be Mr Popular.
I'm wondering how many cyclists you know personally? My husband is a keen cyclist and funnily enough also a pedestrian, motorcyclist, and motorist as is our daughter's boyfriend. They are both professional respectable people who wear lycra and have been inspired like many by the success of British Cycling in recent years.
Maybe it's just the usual problem of the 95% giving the 5% a bad name.
[quote][p][bold]Theo63[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JackJohnson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]suzigirl[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JackJohnson[/bold] wrote: So, all you eco-warriors. Your carbon footprints are something to behold, when you're travelling to and from work, not using the car. But when so many of you will be strapping your bikes to roof-racks and driving up to hundreds of miles to get to this abuse of public space you are undoing all the good work. How about organising events nearer your own homes so you can cycle to them. Smaller events that will not create such a nuisance for residents and other tourists. Get yourselves organised to be less of a nuisance - otherwise you'll, finally, be organised by enforced legislation. You know it makes sense.[/p][/quote]Well said......I wonder how many thumbs down you will get......[/p][/quote]I know I'm far from alone in wanting cyclists to start behaving responsibly. Use cycle paths where they exist, ride the correct way on one way streets, observe and obey red lights, travel at a sensible speed on shared routes etc etc; Organise gatherings to promote cycling, by all means. But call a time trial what it is - a race. Against the clock, but still a race and therefore illegal. Make the gatherings local, and not so big that they are severely disrupitive to locals and other tourists. Cycling is not meant to be intrusive. The way they're behaving at present they really are louts in lycra, judged by the majority of law abiding pedestrians, motorists and motorcyclists. Cyclists are turning cycling into something perceived to be for lawless mavericks with no respect for anyone, or anything. They're driving potential cyclists away. To get more people on their bikes they need to regain the moral high ground by following the rules that already exist, and showing a little respect. They need non-cyclists to start thinking "I want to do that." As for the number of thumbs down I'm expecting, I know that cyclists will be sharing the link to this story so I'm not expecting to be Mr Popular.[/p][/quote]I'm wondering how many cyclists you know personally? My husband is a keen cyclist and funnily enough also a pedestrian, motorcyclist, and motorist as is our daughter's boyfriend. They are both professional respectable people who wear lycra and have been inspired like many by the success of British Cycling in recent years.[/p][/quote]Maybe it's just the usual problem of the 95% giving the 5% a bad name. JackJohnson
  • Score: -3

10:47pm Fri 11 Apr 14

sprintervanman says...

Theo63 spot on.I drive for a living, ride motorcycles but dont cycle though i love seeing people out on bikes and always respect and support them.Regarding the last couple of years in British cycling achievements it amazes me that people go mad over a useless England Football team when it comes to the top level yet hardly bat an eyelid when the Brits have won glory in cycling.
Theo63 spot on.I drive for a living, ride motorcycles but dont cycle though i love seeing people out on bikes and always respect and support them.Regarding the last couple of years in British cycling achievements it amazes me that people go mad over a useless England Football team when it comes to the top level yet hardly bat an eyelid when the Brits have won glory in cycling. sprintervanman
  • Score: 7

7:40am Sat 12 Apr 14

Theo63 says...

sprintervanman wrote:
Theo63 spot on.I drive for a living, ride motorcycles but dont cycle though i love seeing people out on bikes and always respect and support them.Regarding the last couple of years in British cycling achievements it amazes me that people go mad over a useless England Football team when it comes to the top level yet hardly bat an eyelid when the Brits have won glory in cycling.
Totally agree! I have nothing but admiration for the British Cycling team and also the Tour de France competitors. Their dedication to training and levels of fitness and stamina are incredible compared to footballers.

As the Tour is starting in Yorkshire this year, it would be great for a leg in this area in the future!
[quote][p][bold]sprintervanman[/bold] wrote: Theo63 spot on.I drive for a living, ride motorcycles but dont cycle though i love seeing people out on bikes and always respect and support them.Regarding the last couple of years in British cycling achievements it amazes me that people go mad over a useless England Football team when it comes to the top level yet hardly bat an eyelid when the Brits have won glory in cycling.[/p][/quote]Totally agree! I have nothing but admiration for the British Cycling team and also the Tour de France competitors. Their dedication to training and levels of fitness and stamina are incredible compared to footballers. As the Tour is starting in Yorkshire this year, it would be great for a leg in this area in the future! Theo63
  • Score: 9

8:22am Sat 12 Apr 14

ABCD1 says...

Echo please remove the ability to comment before this gets out of hand. Hopefully our men in blue will be patrolling the area tonight to make sure that people like Ash 69 don't ruin it for others!
Echo please remove the ability to comment before this gets out of hand. Hopefully our men in blue will be patrolling the area tonight to make sure that people like Ash 69 don't ruin it for others! ABCD1
  • Score: 0

8:28am Sat 12 Apr 14

retry69 says...

ABCD1 wrote:
Echo please remove the ability to comment before this gets out of hand. Hopefully our men in blue will be patrolling the area tonight to make sure that people like Ash 69 don't ruin it for others!
Far far too late I'm afraid
[quote][p][bold]ABCD1[/bold] wrote: Echo please remove the ability to comment before this gets out of hand. Hopefully our men in blue will be patrolling the area tonight to make sure that people like Ash 69 don't ruin it for others![/p][/quote]Far far too late I'm afraid retry69
  • Score: 2

8:56am Sat 12 Apr 14

newforestbloke says...

FONFA wrote:
see from Wriggle signs this morning that Matchams Lane, the Avon Causeway, Sopley and Derritt Lane are on the route - Oh Joy - not.
yes, and Shirley Holmes and Nrleywood...single track roads with blind bends

And how many days before the next event...and the next...and the next?

Since these events are unregulated, campaigners aim to change the law to limit the size and frequency of these events.They pressurised New Park into not being a cycling event venue, the next suggestion was near Hythe which was also turned down,hence the move to Matchams which is outside the New Forest

Keep fit - try walking. ypu'll see so much more of the Forest and its wildlife

Charity support. try donating some incomeor sell something on eBay
[quote][p][bold]FONFA[/bold] wrote: see from Wriggle signs this morning that Matchams Lane, the Avon Causeway, Sopley and Derritt Lane are on the route - Oh Joy - not.[/p][/quote]yes, and Shirley Holmes and Nrleywood...single track roads with blind bends And how many days before the next event...and the next...and the next? Since these events are unregulated, campaigners aim to change the law to limit the size and frequency of these events.They pressurised New Park into not being a cycling event venue, the next suggestion was near Hythe which was also turned down,hence the move to Matchams which is outside the New Forest Keep fit - try walking. ypu'll see so much more of the Forest and its wildlife Charity support. try donating some incomeor sell something on eBay newforestbloke
  • Score: -9

9:37am Sat 12 Apr 14

boardsandphotos says...

newforestbloke wrote:
FONFA wrote:
see from Wriggle signs this morning that Matchams Lane, the Avon Causeway, Sopley and Derritt Lane are on the route - Oh Joy - not.
yes, and Shirley Holmes and Nrleywood...single track roads with blind bends

And how many days before the next event...and the next...and the next?

Since these events are unregulated, campaigners aim to change the law to limit the size and frequency of these events.They pressurised New Park into not being a cycling event venue, the next suggestion was near Hythe which was also turned down,hence the move to Matchams which is outside the New Forest

Keep fit - try walking. ypu'll see so much more of the Forest and its wildlife

Charity support. try donating some incomeor sell something on eBay
So what size and frequency of event would suit the good people of the New Forest then? Any of you volunteer to help marshal the event?

I walk, I ride, I donate income to charity and I sell on ebay, these things aren't mutually exclusive.
[quote][p][bold]newforestbloke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]FONFA[/bold] wrote: see from Wriggle signs this morning that Matchams Lane, the Avon Causeway, Sopley and Derritt Lane are on the route - Oh Joy - not.[/p][/quote]yes, and Shirley Holmes and Nrleywood...single track roads with blind bends And how many days before the next event...and the next...and the next? Since these events are unregulated, campaigners aim to change the law to limit the size and frequency of these events.They pressurised New Park into not being a cycling event venue, the next suggestion was near Hythe which was also turned down,hence the move to Matchams which is outside the New Forest Keep fit - try walking. ypu'll see so much more of the Forest and its wildlife Charity support. try donating some incomeor sell something on eBay[/p][/quote]So what size and frequency of event would suit the good people of the New Forest then? Any of you volunteer to help marshal the event? I walk, I ride, I donate income to charity and I sell on ebay, these things aren't mutually exclusive. boardsandphotos
  • Score: 1

10:25am Sat 12 Apr 14

newforestbloke says...

boardsandphotos wrote:
newforestbloke wrote:
FONFA wrote:
see from Wriggle signs this morning that Matchams Lane, the Avon Causeway, Sopley and Derritt Lane are on the route - Oh Joy - not.
yes, and Shirley Holmes and Nrleywood...single track roads with blind bends

And how many days before the next event...and the next...and the next?

Since these events are unregulated, campaigners aim to change the law to limit the size and frequency of these events.They pressurised New Park into not being a cycling event venue, the next suggestion was near Hythe which was also turned down,hence the move to Matchams which is outside the New Forest

Keep fit - try walking. ypu'll see so much more of the Forest and its wildlife

Charity support. try donating some incomeor sell something on eBay
So what size and frequency of event would suit the good people of the New Forest then? Any of you volunteer to help marshal the event?

I walk, I ride, I donate income to charity and I sell on ebay, these things aren't mutually exclusive.
So you are prepared to listen to and discuss issues anjd concerns of those living and workng on the New Forest regarding these events rather than replying as several others regarding this article alone with abuse?

Big step in right direction. Everyone apparently has the right to enjoy the New Forest - apart from those who live and/or work there
[quote][p][bold]boardsandphotos[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]newforestbloke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]FONFA[/bold] wrote: see from Wriggle signs this morning that Matchams Lane, the Avon Causeway, Sopley and Derritt Lane are on the route - Oh Joy - not.[/p][/quote]yes, and Shirley Holmes and Nrleywood...single track roads with blind bends And how many days before the next event...and the next...and the next? Since these events are unregulated, campaigners aim to change the law to limit the size and frequency of these events.They pressurised New Park into not being a cycling event venue, the next suggestion was near Hythe which was also turned down,hence the move to Matchams which is outside the New Forest Keep fit - try walking. ypu'll see so much more of the Forest and its wildlife Charity support. try donating some incomeor sell something on eBay[/p][/quote]So what size and frequency of event would suit the good people of the New Forest then? Any of you volunteer to help marshal the event? I walk, I ride, I donate income to charity and I sell on ebay, these things aren't mutually exclusive.[/p][/quote]So you are prepared to listen to and discuss issues anjd concerns of those living and workng on the New Forest regarding these events rather than replying as several others regarding this article alone with abuse? Big step in right direction. Everyone apparently has the right to enjoy the New Forest - apart from those who live and/or work there newforestbloke
  • Score: -4

11:02am Sat 12 Apr 14

sundaydriver says...

retry69 wrote:
ABCD1 wrote:
Echo please remove the ability to comment before this gets out of hand. Hopefully our men in blue will be patrolling the area tonight to make sure that people like Ash 69 don't ruin it for others!
Far far too late I'm afraid
mr retry cant think of anything to say prob because it has all been said - this column is starting to get like sky tv now all repeats
[quote][p][bold]retry69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ABCD1[/bold] wrote: Echo please remove the ability to comment before this gets out of hand. Hopefully our men in blue will be patrolling the area tonight to make sure that people like Ash 69 don't ruin it for others![/p][/quote]Far far too late I'm afraid[/p][/quote]mr retry cant think of anything to say prob because it has all been said - this column is starting to get like sky tv now all repeats sundaydriver
  • Score: 1

11:12am Sat 12 Apr 14

retry69 says...

sundaydriver wrote:
retry69 wrote:
ABCD1 wrote:
Echo please remove the ability to comment before this gets out of hand. Hopefully our men in blue will be patrolling the area tonight to make sure that people like Ash 69 don't ruin it for others!
Far far too late I'm afraid
mr retry cant think of anything to say prob because it has all been said - this column is starting to get like sky tv now all repeats
You are absolutely correct,at one time I would be avidly commenting on this sort of topic along with a few other regulars but it is getting boring as nothing new is being brought to the table as it were.All we get are over exaggerated remarks that most of us know contain hardly any truth in them.Its become boring even for the most hardened trolls :)
[quote][p][bold]sundaydriver[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]retry69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ABCD1[/bold] wrote: Echo please remove the ability to comment before this gets out of hand. Hopefully our men in blue will be patrolling the area tonight to make sure that people like Ash 69 don't ruin it for others![/p][/quote]Far far too late I'm afraid[/p][/quote]mr retry cant think of anything to say prob because it has all been said - this column is starting to get like sky tv now all repeats[/p][/quote]You are absolutely correct,at one time I would be avidly commenting on this sort of topic along with a few other regulars but it is getting boring as nothing new is being brought to the table as it were.All we get are over exaggerated remarks that most of us know contain hardly any truth in them.Its become boring even for the most hardened trolls :) retry69
  • Score: 3

4:12pm Sat 12 Apr 14

breamoreboy says...

scrumpyjack wrote:
eaststandman wrote:
mythoughts! wrote:
who cares? cant we all get on together? its like being back in the school playground
There were rules in the school playground. Let's hope the cyclists can read roadsigns on the Avon causeway.......other


wise this route will be catastrophic.
Not like us motorists eh? We never break a goddam rule?

There is no such offence as Dangerous Driving, Driving Without Due Care and Attention, Drink Driving, Speeding, Failing To Stop, Driving While Disqualified, Causing Death by Careless/Drunk/Drugs

, Using a Defect and Dangerous Vehicle, Failing to Comply with Road Signs and on and on and on.
If you accidentally kill somebody, you can be prosecuted for manslaughter, but if a vehicle is involved it becomes causing death by dangerous driving. Can someone please explain the difference, I have never understood this?
[quote][p][bold]scrumpyjack[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]eaststandman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mythoughts![/bold] wrote: who cares? cant we all get on together? its like being back in the school playground[/p][/quote]There were rules in the school playground. Let's hope the cyclists can read roadsigns on the Avon causeway.......other wise this route will be catastrophic.[/p][/quote]Not like us motorists eh? We never break a goddam rule? There is no such offence as Dangerous Driving, Driving Without Due Care and Attention, Drink Driving, Speeding, Failing To Stop, Driving While Disqualified, Causing Death by Careless/Drunk/Drugs , Using a Defect and Dangerous Vehicle, Failing to Comply with Road Signs and on and on and on.[/p][/quote]If you accidentally kill somebody, you can be prosecuted for manslaughter, but if a vehicle is involved it becomes causing death by dangerous driving. Can someone please explain the difference, I have never understood this? breamoreboy
  • Score: 2

11:41pm Sat 12 Apr 14

tim m says...

strippervicar wrote:
I believe the route this year takes in the Avon Causeway. If true then this is very bad planning, that road backs up when cars have to trail just one cyclist. Stick a few hundred on there and it'll be carnage.
Avoid the Avon Causeway then.
[quote][p][bold]strippervicar[/bold] wrote: I believe the route this year takes in the Avon Causeway. If true then this is very bad planning, that road backs up when cars have to trail just one cyclist. Stick a few hundred on there and it'll be carnage.[/p][/quote]Avoid the Avon Causeway then. tim m
  • Score: 2

1:02am Sun 13 Apr 14

scrumpyjack says...

breamoreboy wrote:
scrumpyjack wrote:
eaststandman wrote:
mythoughts! wrote:
who cares? cant we all get on together? its like being back in the school playground
There were rules in the school playground. Let's hope the cyclists can read roadsigns on the Avon causeway.......other



wise this route will be catastrophic.
Not like us motorists eh? We never break a goddam rule?

There is no such offence as Dangerous Driving, Driving Without Due Care and Attention, Drink Driving, Speeding, Failing To Stop, Driving While Disqualified, Causing Death by Careless/Drunk/Drugs


, Using a Defect and Dangerous Vehicle, Failing to Comply with Road Signs and on and on and on.
If you accidentally kill somebody, you can be prosecuted for manslaughter, but if a vehicle is involved it becomes causing death by dangerous driving. Can someone please explain the difference, I have never understood this?
Because killing with a car without intent is a lot easier due to physics . Not exactly difficult.
[quote][p][bold]breamoreboy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]scrumpyjack[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]eaststandman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mythoughts![/bold] wrote: who cares? cant we all get on together? its like being back in the school playground[/p][/quote]There were rules in the school playground. Let's hope the cyclists can read roadsigns on the Avon causeway.......other wise this route will be catastrophic.[/p][/quote]Not like us motorists eh? We never break a goddam rule? There is no such offence as Dangerous Driving, Driving Without Due Care and Attention, Drink Driving, Speeding, Failing To Stop, Driving While Disqualified, Causing Death by Careless/Drunk/Drugs , Using a Defect and Dangerous Vehicle, Failing to Comply with Road Signs and on and on and on.[/p][/quote]If you accidentally kill somebody, you can be prosecuted for manslaughter, but if a vehicle is involved it becomes causing death by dangerous driving. Can someone please explain the difference, I have never understood this?[/p][/quote]Because killing with a car without intent is a lot easier due to physics . Not exactly difficult. scrumpyjack
  • Score: 3

1:22pm Tue 15 Apr 14

Dorset Logic says...

These cyclists caused me a slight inconvenience on my way to buy an Acer and some Petunia. This makes me very livid.
I can see how live's are ruined by these cyclist / lycra types.
The world was not created for them, and I feel the time has come to judge them as a group rather than as individuals. In that way I can generalise and produce some stats to show how my frothing is valid.

Do you know for example that 100% of people who went to buy Acer's and Petunia's during the event where inconvenienced. This is unacceptable.

Could I also add that 100% of cyclists go through red lights, I don't think anyone has brought this up before, but they may have and I maybe repeating a statement that someone said, who may have heard it from someone or other, but I don't think its a generalisation.

Yours
Brigadier Fortescue Smyth Wilkinson (desc)
These cyclists caused me a slight inconvenience on my way to buy an Acer and some Petunia. This makes me very livid. I can see how live's are ruined by these cyclist / lycra types. The world was not created for them, and I feel the time has come to judge them as a group rather than as individuals. In that way I can generalise and produce some stats to show how my frothing is valid. Do you know for example that 100% of people who went to buy Acer's and Petunia's during the event where inconvenienced. This is unacceptable. Could I also add that 100% of cyclists go through red lights, I don't think anyone has brought this up before, but they may have and I maybe repeating a statement that someone said, who may have heard it from someone or other, but I don't think its a generalisation. Yours Brigadier Fortescue Smyth Wilkinson (desc) Dorset Logic
  • Score: -1

1:48pm Tue 15 Apr 14

mythoughts! says...

There are some real stupid comments on here by people that have nothing better to do than moan. Get a grip, and live your lives, stop moaning about silly petty insignificant things.
There are some real stupid comments on here by people that have nothing better to do than moan. Get a grip, and live your lives, stop moaning about silly petty insignificant things. mythoughts!
  • Score: 1

6:33pm Tue 15 Apr 14

Dorset Logic says...

mythoughts! wrote:
There are some real stupid comments on here by people that have nothing better to do than moan. Get a grip, and live your lives, stop moaning about silly petty insignificant things.
you have obviously not had to make an emergency begonia purchase at a garden centre.
[quote][p][bold]mythoughts![/bold] wrote: There are some real stupid comments on here by people that have nothing better to do than moan. Get a grip, and live your lives, stop moaning about silly petty insignificant things.[/p][/quote]you have obviously not had to make an emergency begonia purchase at a garden centre. Dorset Logic
  • Score: 0

7:56am Wed 16 Apr 14

JackJohnson says...

STRIPEY51 wrote:
Bike riders are a bloody menace on the road, to start with they should only ride single file and not get in a bunch all over the road, they should all have to wear hi/visibility jackets by law, no wonder so many get killed and inured each year, and abide by the hi way code in traffic.
There's a blind summit on a narrow, but busy road near where I live. I drove over it a few days ago to find a bunch of cyclists honking their way up the opposite side. Some had given up and were walking their bikes up - up to three abreast. There was also a number of them standing in the middle of the left-hand (my) lane watching for anything heading towards them over the brow of the hill.

It's a good job I never do more than about 30 going over that blind summit. Many drivers go over it doing far more than that.
[quote][p][bold]STRIPEY51[/bold] wrote: Bike riders are a bloody menace on the road, to start with they should only ride single file and not get in a bunch all over the road, they should all have to wear hi/visibility jackets by law, no wonder so many get killed and inured each year, and abide by the hi way code in traffic.[/p][/quote]There's a blind summit on a narrow, but busy road near where I live. I drove over it a few days ago to find a bunch of cyclists honking their way up the opposite side. Some had given up and were walking their bikes up - up to three abreast. There was also a number of them standing in the middle of the left-hand (my) lane watching for anything heading towards them over the brow of the hill. It's a good job I never do more than about 30 going over that blind summit. Many drivers go over it doing far more than that. JackJohnson
  • Score: 0

12:11pm Wed 16 Apr 14

MrPitiful says...

The inhabitants of the New Forest area really are an inward-thinking bunch full of their own self-importance.

Moaning about a cycle event - God help them if they had the problems faced by others out in the real world.

I think one of the worst things to have happened was giving this area National Park status - is made the locals think they are even more precious.

I know quite a few people from the area and they basically need to get out more. They plod up and down the A35 at 45mph all day and think they are a cut above the rest of the South.

The New Forest? - Just about the posh part of Southampton if you ask me and full of dead-heads.
The inhabitants of the New Forest area really are an inward-thinking bunch full of their own self-importance. Moaning about a cycle event - God help them if they had the problems faced by others out in the real world. I think one of the worst things to have happened was giving this area National Park status - is made the locals think they are even more precious. I know quite a few people from the area and they basically need to get out more. They plod up and down the A35 at 45mph all day and think they are a cut above the rest of the South. The New Forest? - Just about the posh part of Southampton if you ask me and full of dead-heads. MrPitiful
  • Score: 1

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