VIDEO: Severe delays after crash between lorry and van on A31 near Ringwood

Delays after collision on A31 near Ringwood

Delays after crash between lorry and van on A31 near Ringwood

Delays after crash between lorry and van on A31 near Ringwood

Delays after crash between lorry and van on A31 near Ringwood

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MILES of traffic queues built-up near Ringwood this morning following a three-vehicle collision on a major road.

At around 11am emergency services were called to the westbound carriageway of the A31 following a collision involving a heavy goods vehicle, a Citroen van and a Peugeot 107.

A spokesman from Hampshire Fire and Rescue Service said the heavy goods vehicle, a DAS truck, was in collision with the van, pushing it against the central reservation.

The driver of the van, who escaped with minor injuries, had to be released by firefighters after he became trapped inside the vehicle.

The spokesman from Hampshire Fire and Rescue Service said: “The male driver was unable to get out of the vehicle. Fire crews were called to the scene to release him.”

The collision took place between the A338 junction to Ringwood and the Ashley Heath Roundabout.
Following the incident, severe traffic built up in the area with motorists reporting traffic queuing as far back as Cadnam.

The Highways Agency closed both lanes of the dual carriageway for ten minutes while emergency services made the scene safe.

A spokesman from Hampshire Police said: “At 11.20am the Highways Agency closed the road for ten minutes.

“One lane was reopened to allow traffic to past while the vehicles were recovered.”

The police spokesman said no one was believed to have suffered serious injuries during the crash.

All vehicles were recovered and the road was fully reopened at around 1.30pm. 

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12:02pm Mon 7 Apr 14

Mike_French says...

Good to hear that nobody was injured.
I now await the usual comments about how bad the road is (lower the speed limit etc), no such thing as a bad road - just bad drivers.
Good to hear that nobody was injured. I now await the usual comments about how bad the road is (lower the speed limit etc), no such thing as a bad road - just bad drivers. Mike_French
  • Score: 20

12:03pm Mon 7 Apr 14

skydriver says...

Regardless of what happened , if the speed was reduced it MAY, have helped. But, alas no, the minister for highways thinks he knows best. I guess he is an authority he comes down once a year in his chauffeur drive car.
He too is another MP that's not worth his inflated state salary.
Regardless of what happened , if the speed was reduced it MAY, have helped. But, alas no, the minister for highways thinks he knows best. I guess he is an authority he comes down once a year in his chauffeur drive car. He too is another MP that's not worth his inflated state salary. skydriver
  • Score: -4

12:05pm Mon 7 Apr 14

speedy231278 says...

Most likely people too close together for the wet road conditions. Speed and road layout are merely secondary, casual factors in most accidents. The cause is almost exclusively poor driving, except in the cases of mechanical failure or so-called 'acts of God'.
Most likely people too close together for the wet road conditions. Speed and road layout are merely secondary, casual factors in most accidents. The cause is almost exclusively poor driving, except in the cases of mechanical failure or so-called 'acts of God'. speedy231278
  • Score: 21

12:12pm Mon 7 Apr 14

Leesaclare says...

Its not always the speed as proven by statistics of what the accidents were/how they were caused. its the incompetency of drivers that then cause a knock on effect! I had a collision here, have lived here all my life never had a problem and the person in-front said oh sorry I don't know the road and slammed his breaks on because he saw a slip road, If people were educated on how to drive properly and use slip roads correctly along with people on the duel carriage way it would help! Glad no body was injured
Its not always the speed as proven by statistics of what the accidents were/how they were caused. its the incompetency of drivers that then cause a knock on effect! I had a collision here, have lived here all my life never had a problem and the person in-front said oh sorry I don't know the road and slammed his breaks on because he saw a slip road, If people were educated on how to drive properly and use slip roads correctly along with people on the duel carriage way it would help! Glad no body was injured Leesaclare
  • Score: 14

12:29pm Mon 7 Apr 14

gileto says...

Leesaclare wrote:
Its not always the speed as proven by statistics of what the accidents were/how they were caused. its the incompetency of drivers that then cause a knock on effect! I had a collision here, have lived here all my life never had a problem and the person in-front said oh sorry I don't know the road and slammed his breaks on because he saw a slip road, If people were educated on how to drive properly and use slip roads correctly along with people on the duel carriage way it would help! Glad no body was injured
You're another that went into the back of a car presumably. Regardless of the reason for them slamming their brakes on, you failed to (along with many others on this and other roads) allow a sufficient breaking distance for the road conditions at the time...suggest you're another one that needs driver education here!
[quote][p][bold]Leesaclare[/bold] wrote: Its not always the speed as proven by statistics of what the accidents were/how they were caused. its the incompetency of drivers that then cause a knock on effect! I had a collision here, have lived here all my life never had a problem and the person in-front said oh sorry I don't know the road and slammed his breaks on because he saw a slip road, If people were educated on how to drive properly and use slip roads correctly along with people on the duel carriage way it would help! Glad no body was injured[/p][/quote]You're another that went into the back of a car presumably. Regardless of the reason for them slamming their brakes on, you failed to (along with many others on this and other roads) allow a sufficient breaking distance for the road conditions at the time...suggest you're another one that needs driver education here! gileto
  • Score: 12

12:34pm Mon 7 Apr 14

Leesaclare says...

gileto wrote:
Leesaclare wrote:
Its not always the speed as proven by statistics of what the accidents were/how they were caused. its the incompetency of drivers that then cause a knock on effect! I had a collision here, have lived here all my life never had a problem and the person in-front said oh sorry I don't know the road and slammed his breaks on because he saw a slip road, If people were educated on how to drive properly and use slip roads correctly along with people on the duel carriage way it would help! Glad no body was injured
You're another that went into the back of a car presumably. Regardless of the reason for them slamming their brakes on, you failed to (along with many others on this and other roads) allow a sufficient breaking distance for the road conditions at the time...suggest you're another one that needs driver education here!
actually no someone went into the back of me, I was able to stop in time the person behind did not
[quote][p][bold]gileto[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Leesaclare[/bold] wrote: Its not always the speed as proven by statistics of what the accidents were/how they were caused. its the incompetency of drivers that then cause a knock on effect! I had a collision here, have lived here all my life never had a problem and the person in-front said oh sorry I don't know the road and slammed his breaks on because he saw a slip road, If people were educated on how to drive properly and use slip roads correctly along with people on the duel carriage way it would help! Glad no body was injured[/p][/quote]You're another that went into the back of a car presumably. Regardless of the reason for them slamming their brakes on, you failed to (along with many others on this and other roads) allow a sufficient breaking distance for the road conditions at the time...suggest you're another one that needs driver education here![/p][/quote]actually no someone went into the back of me, I was able to stop in time the person behind did not Leesaclare
  • Score: 13

12:36pm Mon 7 Apr 14

djd says...

Leesaclare wrote:
gileto wrote:
Leesaclare wrote:
Its not always the speed as proven by statistics of what the accidents were/how they were caused. its the incompetency of drivers that then cause a knock on effect! I had a collision here, have lived here all my life never had a problem and the person in-front said oh sorry I don't know the road and slammed his breaks on because he saw a slip road, If people were educated on how to drive properly and use slip roads correctly along with people on the duel carriage way it would help! Glad no body was injured
You're another that went into the back of a car presumably. Regardless of the reason for them slamming their brakes on, you failed to (along with many others on this and other roads) allow a sufficient breaking distance for the road conditions at the time...suggest you're another one that needs driver education here!
actually no someone went into the back of me, I was able to stop in time the person behind did not
Oh dear, how do I get my foot out of my mouth !!!
[quote][p][bold]Leesaclare[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gileto[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Leesaclare[/bold] wrote: Its not always the speed as proven by statistics of what the accidents were/how they were caused. its the incompetency of drivers that then cause a knock on effect! I had a collision here, have lived here all my life never had a problem and the person in-front said oh sorry I don't know the road and slammed his breaks on because he saw a slip road, If people were educated on how to drive properly and use slip roads correctly along with people on the duel carriage way it would help! Glad no body was injured[/p][/quote]You're another that went into the back of a car presumably. Regardless of the reason for them slamming their brakes on, you failed to (along with many others on this and other roads) allow a sufficient breaking distance for the road conditions at the time...suggest you're another one that needs driver education here![/p][/quote]actually no someone went into the back of me, I was able to stop in time the person behind did not[/p][/quote]Oh dear, how do I get my foot out of my mouth !!! djd
  • Score: 6

1:09pm Mon 7 Apr 14

Stop Press says...

Mike_French wrote:
Good to hear that nobody was injured.
I now await the usual comments about how bad the road is (lower the speed limit etc), no such thing as a bad road - just bad drivers.
It's because of the bad drivers that the speed limit needs to be lowered!
[quote][p][bold]Mike_French[/bold] wrote: Good to hear that nobody was injured. I now await the usual comments about how bad the road is (lower the speed limit etc), no such thing as a bad road - just bad drivers.[/p][/quote]It's because of the bad drivers that the speed limit needs to be lowered! Stop Press
  • Score: 2

1:41pm Mon 7 Apr 14

sniffer says...

I use this junction every day joing the A31 and I hate it. You have to try and get up to speed coming up the slip road to match the cars speed coming over the fly over, then often have to break to stop running in to the back of people coming out by the Fish or the petrol station at 20 mph.

Been doing it for 30 years, not hit anybody yet though, but the traffic is double what it was in the 80's, needs sorting, surprised the aren't more accidents tbh.
I use this junction every day joing the A31 and I hate it. You have to try and get up to speed coming up the slip road to match the cars speed coming over the fly over, then often have to break to stop running in to the back of people coming out by the Fish or the petrol station at 20 mph. Been doing it for 30 years, not hit anybody yet though, but the traffic is double what it was in the 80's, needs sorting, surprised the aren't more accidents tbh. sniffer
  • Score: 20

1:50pm Mon 7 Apr 14

gileto says...

Leesaclare wrote:
gileto wrote:
Leesaclare wrote:
Its not always the speed as proven by statistics of what the accidents were/how they were caused. its the incompetency of drivers that then cause a knock on effect! I had a collision here, have lived here all my life never had a problem and the person in-front said oh sorry I don't know the road and slammed his breaks on because he saw a slip road, If people were educated on how to drive properly and use slip roads correctly along with people on the duel carriage way it would help! Glad no body was injured
You're another that went into the back of a car presumably. Regardless of the reason for them slamming their brakes on, you failed to (along with many others on this and other roads) allow a sufficient breaking distance for the road conditions at the time...suggest you're another one that needs driver education here!
actually no someone went into the back of me, I was able to stop in time the person behind did not
oops, sorry, reading you're description again still suggests to me something different had occurred....years ago I used to deal with motor claims so should have reminded myself that accident descriptions can be misleading in the least..
[quote][p][bold]Leesaclare[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gileto[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Leesaclare[/bold] wrote: Its not always the speed as proven by statistics of what the accidents were/how they were caused. its the incompetency of drivers that then cause a knock on effect! I had a collision here, have lived here all my life never had a problem and the person in-front said oh sorry I don't know the road and slammed his breaks on because he saw a slip road, If people were educated on how to drive properly and use slip roads correctly along with people on the duel carriage way it would help! Glad no body was injured[/p][/quote]You're another that went into the back of a car presumably. Regardless of the reason for them slamming their brakes on, you failed to (along with many others on this and other roads) allow a sufficient breaking distance for the road conditions at the time...suggest you're another one that needs driver education here![/p][/quote]actually no someone went into the back of me, I was able to stop in time the person behind did not[/p][/quote]oops, sorry, reading you're description again still suggests to me something different had occurred....years ago I used to deal with motor claims so should have reminded myself that accident descriptions can be misleading in the least.. gileto
  • Score: 4

2:01pm Mon 7 Apr 14

Pawnstrar says...

Another **** accident at the Ringwood on slip!!!!!!!
Another **** accident at the Ringwood on slip!!!!!!! Pawnstrar
  • Score: 5

2:44pm Mon 7 Apr 14

CliveH77 says...

Mike_French wrote:
Good to hear that nobody was injured.
I now await the usual comments about how bad the road is (lower the speed limit etc), no such thing as a bad road - just bad drivers.
No such thing as a bad road!?! Are you from the Highways Agency? This 1 miles stretch of the A31 is notorious for serious accidents. The data is clear, this is a very very bad road, the layout is appalling and it desperately needs redesigning. To put it another way, if it wasn't for the mutiple junctions on this high speed road would there be a single accident here? Of course not.

Having a 70mph road with 3 feed-in lanes within a space of 400 metres, all of which feed-in without appropriate space to pick up speed is a recipe for disaster. The only way this road could be any worse is if they put in some random chicanes!

There are easy solutions to the problem -

1)Widen the bridge and road to 3 lanes.
2)Block off the access to the petrol station and co-op and lengthen the feed-in from Ringwood junction.
3)Reduce the speed limit to 50mph with speed camera enforcement.
[quote][p][bold]Mike_French[/bold] wrote: Good to hear that nobody was injured. I now await the usual comments about how bad the road is (lower the speed limit etc), no such thing as a bad road - just bad drivers.[/p][/quote]No such thing as a bad road!?! Are you from the Highways Agency? This 1 miles stretch of the A31 is notorious for serious accidents. The data is clear, this is a very very bad road, the layout is appalling and it desperately needs redesigning. To put it another way, if it wasn't for the mutiple junctions on this high speed road would there be a single accident here? Of course not. Having a 70mph road with 3 feed-in lanes within a space of 400 metres, all of which feed-in without appropriate space to pick up speed is a recipe for disaster. The only way this road could be any worse is if they put in some random chicanes! There are easy solutions to the problem - 1)Widen the bridge and road to 3 lanes. 2)Block off the access to the petrol station and co-op and lengthen the feed-in from Ringwood junction. 3)Reduce the speed limit to 50mph with speed camera enforcement. CliveH77
  • Score: -4

3:13pm Mon 7 Apr 14

Tig says...

Maybe the lorry was changing lanes and that's how the van got pushed into the barrier? Just a thought. If so, then that's driver error - either the lorry or the van, or even both. Or perhaps the lorry cut across the outer lane. My point being, the accident doesn't need to be speed related.
Maybe the lorry was changing lanes and that's how the van got pushed into the barrier? Just a thought. If so, then that's driver error - either the lorry or the van, or even both. Or perhaps the lorry cut across the outer lane. My point being, the accident doesn't need to be speed related. Tig
  • Score: 9

4:17pm Mon 7 Apr 14

speedy231278 says...

Stop Press wrote:
Mike_French wrote:
Good to hear that nobody was injured.
I now await the usual comments about how bad the road is (lower the speed limit etc), no such thing as a bad road - just bad drivers.
It's because of the bad drivers that the speed limit needs to be lowered!
By that logic, the speed limit everywhere should be 0mph!
[quote][p][bold]Stop Press[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mike_French[/bold] wrote: Good to hear that nobody was injured. I now await the usual comments about how bad the road is (lower the speed limit etc), no such thing as a bad road - just bad drivers.[/p][/quote]It's because of the bad drivers that the speed limit needs to be lowered![/p][/quote]By that logic, the speed limit everywhere should be 0mph! speedy231278
  • Score: 4

4:18pm Mon 7 Apr 14

Telscombe Cliffy says...

CliveH77 wrote:
Mike_French wrote:
Good to hear that nobody was injured.
I now await the usual comments about how bad the road is (lower the speed limit etc), no such thing as a bad road - just bad drivers.
No such thing as a bad road!?! Are you from the Highways Agency? This 1 miles stretch of the A31 is notorious for serious accidents. The data is clear, this is a very very bad road, the layout is appalling and it desperately needs redesigning. To put it another way, if it wasn't for the mutiple junctions on this high speed road would there be a single accident here? Of course not.

Having a 70mph road with 3 feed-in lanes within a space of 400 metres, all of which feed-in without appropriate space to pick up speed is a recipe for disaster. The only way this road could be any worse is if they put in some random chicanes!

There are easy solutions to the problem -

1)Widen the bridge and road to 3 lanes.
2)Block off the access to the petrol station and co-op and lengthen the feed-in from Ringwood junction.
3)Reduce the speed limit to 50mph with speed camera enforcement.
Agree, and if there are no bad roads why have the nations roads been improved constantly over the last 100 years then. Ringwood's A31 has been improved constantly too but is lagging behind now and has been for over ten years.
[quote][p][bold]CliveH77[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mike_French[/bold] wrote: Good to hear that nobody was injured. I now await the usual comments about how bad the road is (lower the speed limit etc), no such thing as a bad road - just bad drivers.[/p][/quote]No such thing as a bad road!?! Are you from the Highways Agency? This 1 miles stretch of the A31 is notorious for serious accidents. The data is clear, this is a very very bad road, the layout is appalling and it desperately needs redesigning. To put it another way, if it wasn't for the mutiple junctions on this high speed road would there be a single accident here? Of course not. Having a 70mph road with 3 feed-in lanes within a space of 400 metres, all of which feed-in without appropriate space to pick up speed is a recipe for disaster. The only way this road could be any worse is if they put in some random chicanes! There are easy solutions to the problem - 1)Widen the bridge and road to 3 lanes. 2)Block off the access to the petrol station and co-op and lengthen the feed-in from Ringwood junction. 3)Reduce the speed limit to 50mph with speed camera enforcement.[/p][/quote]Agree, and if there are no bad roads why have the nations roads been improved constantly over the last 100 years then. Ringwood's A31 has been improved constantly too but is lagging behind now and has been for over ten years. Telscombe Cliffy
  • Score: 5

4:25pm Mon 7 Apr 14

MotorbikeSam says...

Bring on the 40 or 50 mph limit sooner the better and for all you speedsters out there who say "Oh dear it will take me another 47 seconds to get to bournemouth when the speed limit come in" just think would you be rather waiting an hour once a week because of the fast drivers or go silly when they get to Ringwood....?? but only by luck this time no one was killed !! if it happened to be a small car that got squashed by a 40 tonne artic you would have been waiting in the queue a long log time ...
Bring on the 40 or 50 mph limit sooner the better and for all you speedsters out there who say "Oh dear it will take me another 47 seconds to get to bournemouth when the speed limit come in" just think would you be rather waiting an hour once a week because of the fast drivers or go silly when they get to Ringwood....?? but only by luck this time no one was killed !! if it happened to be a small car that got squashed by a 40 tonne artic you would have been waiting in the queue a long log time ... MotorbikeSam
  • Score: 1

4:28pm Mon 7 Apr 14

Snow53 says...

CliveH77 wrote:
Mike_French wrote:
Good to hear that nobody was injured.
I now await the usual comments about how bad the road is (lower the speed limit etc), no such thing as a bad road - just bad drivers.
No such thing as a bad road!?! Are you from the Highways Agency? This 1 miles stretch of the A31 is notorious for serious accidents. The data is clear, this is a very very bad road, the layout is appalling and it desperately needs redesigning. To put it another way, if it wasn't for the mutiple junctions on this high speed road would there be a single accident here? Of course not.

Having a 70mph road with 3 feed-in lanes within a space of 400 metres, all of which feed-in without appropriate space to pick up speed is a recipe for disaster. The only way this road could be any worse is if they put in some random chicanes!

There are easy solutions to the problem -

1)Widen the bridge and road to 3 lanes.
2)Block off the access to the petrol station and co-op and lengthen the feed-in from Ringwood junction.
3)Reduce the speed limit to 50mph with speed camera enforcement.
To be honest any reactions from the Highways Agency will be laughable, what does the death rate have to be before the idiots in Highways take their blinkers off? A 5 yr old can see how absolutely rediculous the road layout is at that point, fast traffic,blind bend,brow of hill,short slip road, pub, garage and rat run from the town plus very poor road signage and excessive roads on and off with 4 lanes at one point! I was passing this incident which shook me, saddened me and maddened me. Where are the MEN in charge, get your act together and sort this out before another fatal accident occurs. People of Ringwood - need to protest en mass! As for stupid drivers they are everywhere - but stupid road systems make them worse.
[quote][p][bold]CliveH77[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mike_French[/bold] wrote: Good to hear that nobody was injured. I now await the usual comments about how bad the road is (lower the speed limit etc), no such thing as a bad road - just bad drivers.[/p][/quote]No such thing as a bad road!?! Are you from the Highways Agency? This 1 miles stretch of the A31 is notorious for serious accidents. The data is clear, this is a very very bad road, the layout is appalling and it desperately needs redesigning. To put it another way, if it wasn't for the mutiple junctions on this high speed road would there be a single accident here? Of course not. Having a 70mph road with 3 feed-in lanes within a space of 400 metres, all of which feed-in without appropriate space to pick up speed is a recipe for disaster. The only way this road could be any worse is if they put in some random chicanes! There are easy solutions to the problem - 1)Widen the bridge and road to 3 lanes. 2)Block off the access to the petrol station and co-op and lengthen the feed-in from Ringwood junction. 3)Reduce the speed limit to 50mph with speed camera enforcement.[/p][/quote]To be honest any reactions from the Highways Agency will be laughable, what does the death rate have to be before the idiots in Highways take their blinkers off? A 5 yr old can see how absolutely rediculous the road layout is at that point, fast traffic,blind bend,brow of hill,short slip road, pub, garage and rat run from the town plus very poor road signage and excessive roads on and off with 4 lanes at one point! I was passing this incident which shook me, saddened me and maddened me. Where are the MEN in charge, get your act together and sort this out before another fatal accident occurs. People of Ringwood - need to protest en mass! As for stupid drivers they are everywhere - but stupid road systems make them worse. Snow53
  • Score: 9

4:56pm Mon 7 Apr 14

scrumpyjack says...

gileto wrote:
Leesaclare wrote:
Its not always the speed as proven by statistics of what the accidents were/how they were caused. its the incompetency of drivers that then cause a knock on effect! I had a collision here, have lived here all my life never had a problem and the person in-front said oh sorry I don't know the road and slammed his breaks on because he saw a slip road, If people were educated on how to drive properly and use slip roads correctly along with people on the duel carriage way it would help! Glad no body was injured
You're another that went into the back of a car presumably. Regardless of the reason for them slamming their brakes on, you failed to (along with many others on this and other roads) allow a sufficient breaking distance for the road conditions at the time...suggest you're another one that needs driver education here!
Spot on.

And the fact they can't even see that just makes it even more ironic.
[quote][p][bold]gileto[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Leesaclare[/bold] wrote: Its not always the speed as proven by statistics of what the accidents were/how they were caused. its the incompetency of drivers that then cause a knock on effect! I had a collision here, have lived here all my life never had a problem and the person in-front said oh sorry I don't know the road and slammed his breaks on because he saw a slip road, If people were educated on how to drive properly and use slip roads correctly along with people on the duel carriage way it would help! Glad no body was injured[/p][/quote]You're another that went into the back of a car presumably. Regardless of the reason for them slamming their brakes on, you failed to (along with many others on this and other roads) allow a sufficient breaking distance for the road conditions at the time...suggest you're another one that needs driver education here![/p][/quote]Spot on. And the fact they can't even see that just makes it even more ironic. scrumpyjack
  • Score: -1

5:07pm Mon 7 Apr 14

sc61 says...

Telscombe Cliffy wrote:
CliveH77 wrote:
Mike_French wrote:
Good to hear that nobody was injured.
I now await the usual comments about how bad the road is (lower the speed limit etc), no such thing as a bad road - just bad drivers.
No such thing as a bad road!?! Are you from the Highways Agency? This 1 miles stretch of the A31 is notorious for serious accidents. The data is clear, this is a very very bad road, the layout is appalling and it desperately needs redesigning. To put it another way, if it wasn't for the mutiple junctions on this high speed road would there be a single accident here? Of course not.

Having a 70mph road with 3 feed-in lanes within a space of 400 metres, all of which feed-in without appropriate space to pick up speed is a recipe for disaster. The only way this road could be any worse is if they put in some random chicanes!

There are easy solutions to the problem -

1)Widen the bridge and road to 3 lanes.
2)Block off the access to the petrol station and co-op and lengthen the feed-in from Ringwood junction.
3)Reduce the speed limit to 50mph with speed camera enforcement.
Agree, and if there are no bad roads why have the nations roads been improved constantly over the last 100 years then. Ringwood's A31 has been improved constantly too but is lagging behind now and has been for over ten years.
Indeed; OK the root cause of most accidents is crap driving, wouldn't argue with that....but there are some stretches of road which are far worse than others in terms of the likelihood of an error of judgement on someone's part leading to an accident. The stretch of A31 between Picket Post and the Spur Road has a whole selection of design problems, and urgently needs sorting out. A cheap solution like a 50 mph limit is unlikely to achieve much.
[quote][p][bold]Telscombe Cliffy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]CliveH77[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mike_French[/bold] wrote: Good to hear that nobody was injured. I now await the usual comments about how bad the road is (lower the speed limit etc), no such thing as a bad road - just bad drivers.[/p][/quote]No such thing as a bad road!?! Are you from the Highways Agency? This 1 miles stretch of the A31 is notorious for serious accidents. The data is clear, this is a very very bad road, the layout is appalling and it desperately needs redesigning. To put it another way, if it wasn't for the mutiple junctions on this high speed road would there be a single accident here? Of course not. Having a 70mph road with 3 feed-in lanes within a space of 400 metres, all of which feed-in without appropriate space to pick up speed is a recipe for disaster. The only way this road could be any worse is if they put in some random chicanes! There are easy solutions to the problem - 1)Widen the bridge and road to 3 lanes. 2)Block off the access to the petrol station and co-op and lengthen the feed-in from Ringwood junction. 3)Reduce the speed limit to 50mph with speed camera enforcement.[/p][/quote]Agree, and if there are no bad roads why have the nations roads been improved constantly over the last 100 years then. Ringwood's A31 has been improved constantly too but is lagging behind now and has been for over ten years.[/p][/quote]Indeed; OK the root cause of most accidents is crap driving, wouldn't argue with that....but there are some stretches of road which are far worse than others in terms of the likelihood of an error of judgement on someone's part leading to an accident. The stretch of A31 between Picket Post and the Spur Road has a whole selection of design problems, and urgently needs sorting out. A cheap solution like a 50 mph limit is unlikely to achieve much. sc61
  • Score: 6

11:06pm Mon 7 Apr 14

ragj195 says...

sc61 wrote:
Telscombe Cliffy wrote:
CliveH77 wrote:
Mike_French wrote:
Good to hear that nobody was injured.
I now await the usual comments about how bad the road is (lower the speed limit etc), no such thing as a bad road - just bad drivers.
No such thing as a bad road!?! Are you from the Highways Agency? This 1 miles stretch of the A31 is notorious for serious accidents. The data is clear, this is a very very bad road, the layout is appalling and it desperately needs redesigning. To put it another way, if it wasn't for the mutiple junctions on this high speed road would there be a single accident here? Of course not.

Having a 70mph road with 3 feed-in lanes within a space of 400 metres, all of which feed-in without appropriate space to pick up speed is a recipe for disaster. The only way this road could be any worse is if they put in some random chicanes!

There are easy solutions to the problem -

1)Widen the bridge and road to 3 lanes.
2)Block off the access to the petrol station and co-op and lengthen the feed-in from Ringwood junction.
3)Reduce the speed limit to 50mph with speed camera enforcement.
Agree, and if there are no bad roads why have the nations roads been improved constantly over the last 100 years then. Ringwood's A31 has been improved constantly too but is lagging behind now and has been for over ten years.
Indeed; OK the root cause of most accidents is crap driving, wouldn't argue with that....but there are some stretches of road which are far worse than others in terms of the likelihood of an error of judgement on someone's part leading to an accident. The stretch of A31 between Picket Post and the Spur Road has a whole selection of design problems, and urgently needs sorting out. A cheap solution like a 50 mph limit is unlikely to achieve much.
Exactly because the majority of accidents occur at speeds well below 50mph. The layout is a nightmare not the speed limit.
[quote][p][bold]sc61[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Telscombe Cliffy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]CliveH77[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mike_French[/bold] wrote: Good to hear that nobody was injured. I now await the usual comments about how bad the road is (lower the speed limit etc), no such thing as a bad road - just bad drivers.[/p][/quote]No such thing as a bad road!?! Are you from the Highways Agency? This 1 miles stretch of the A31 is notorious for serious accidents. The data is clear, this is a very very bad road, the layout is appalling and it desperately needs redesigning. To put it another way, if it wasn't for the mutiple junctions on this high speed road would there be a single accident here? Of course not. Having a 70mph road with 3 feed-in lanes within a space of 400 metres, all of which feed-in without appropriate space to pick up speed is a recipe for disaster. The only way this road could be any worse is if they put in some random chicanes! There are easy solutions to the problem - 1)Widen the bridge and road to 3 lanes. 2)Block off the access to the petrol station and co-op and lengthen the feed-in from Ringwood junction. 3)Reduce the speed limit to 50mph with speed camera enforcement.[/p][/quote]Agree, and if there are no bad roads why have the nations roads been improved constantly over the last 100 years then. Ringwood's A31 has been improved constantly too but is lagging behind now and has been for over ten years.[/p][/quote]Indeed; OK the root cause of most accidents is crap driving, wouldn't argue with that....but there are some stretches of road which are far worse than others in terms of the likelihood of an error of judgement on someone's part leading to an accident. The stretch of A31 between Picket Post and the Spur Road has a whole selection of design problems, and urgently needs sorting out. A cheap solution like a 50 mph limit is unlikely to achieve much.[/p][/quote]Exactly because the majority of accidents occur at speeds well below 50mph. The layout is a nightmare not the speed limit. ragj195
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