Christchurch councillor celebrates after bus service is saved

MPORTANT: The 21 service was vital to some residents

CELEBRATING: Cllr Margaret Phipps

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A CHRISTCHURCH councillor is celebrating after a campaign to keep an “important” bus service was successful.

Dorset County and Christchurch borough councillor, Margaret Phipps, who represents residents of St Catherine’s said she is “absolutely delighted” the county council will continue to sponsor the route.

It currently runs from Burton to Royal Bournemouth Hospital via Christchurch, and is due to be rebranded from the number 21 to number 24 from April 6.

Cllr Phipps said: “This is a great example of residents and councillors working together to achieve a really good outcome for the community.

“I spoke on behalf of residents at two cabinet meetings in Dorchester, emphasising how important this bus is to residents of St Catherine’s and River Way, and I want to thank the cabinet for paying attention to what I said.

“Local councillor Sue Spittle and residents did a great deal of work collecting signatures for two petitions which were also sent. “The result was county’s recognition that people needed this valuable bus to be able to get to work, the hospital, the shops, and out and about.

“The original suggestion was to withdraw sponsorship of the number 21 from Burton to Bournemouth Hospital, return, but after listening to local councillors and residents, the county council realised its importance and has decided to continue to sponsor this route Monday to Saturday inclusive.”

Mark Ambler, Yellow Buses’ head of network development, said previously: “We must stress that these new arrangements are on a trial basis due to the substantial amount of funding which has been cut.

“It is absolutely essential that residents of Burton and River Way in Christchurch make full use of the service. We have worked really hard to try and save this route, at least in the short-term, but are now looking to the local community to support the service.”

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1:48pm Wed 2 Apr 14

bsjc1234 says...

Do not wish to put a dampener on this story but I regret to say the celebrations will be very short lived, I guess six months at the most, why? for some reason best known to YB themselves they have changed the times of the Burton inbound bus to leave Bournemouth Hospital at 57 minuets past each hour at peak times Mon-Fri, any one who uses this service knows that in the afternoons the bus can turn up near empty and all the NHS Hospital staff who finished their 16:00 or 17:00 shifts normally just make it to the bus that currently arrives at 16:06/17:06, with the new number and bus now arriving at 3 mins to the hour all these passengers will now not make this bus and will have to revert to the only other option, the X1/X2, this alone will ultimately cost Burton this service. Remember, you read it hear first!
Do not wish to put a dampener on this story but I regret to say the celebrations will be very short lived, I guess six months at the most, why? for some reason best known to YB themselves they have changed the times of the Burton inbound bus to leave Bournemouth Hospital at 57 minuets past each hour at peak times Mon-Fri, any one who uses this service knows that in the afternoons the bus can turn up near empty and all the NHS Hospital staff who finished their 16:00 or 17:00 shifts normally just make it to the bus that currently arrives at 16:06/17:06, with the new number and bus now arriving at 3 mins to the hour all these passengers will now not make this bus and will have to revert to the only other option, the X1/X2, this alone will ultimately cost Burton this service. Remember, you read it hear first! bsjc1234
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4:52pm Wed 2 Apr 14

richt says...

I also know people who will no longer be able to use this bus back to Burton because of the earlier times, so more lost revenue...

Unless they provide a RELIABLE service at times suited to people commuting and using it for school travel - then they can't use lower numbers to justify removing it.
I hope lots more people complain then they will have to listen.

Mr Ambler previously stated in his 6th March article, that LATE evening and Sunday services would be cut but they are no longer providing a service back from Bournemouth after 5.40PM, even worse for people wanting to commute by bus. Sorry but the 7pm service cannot be classed as Late Evening by anyone's rules!
I cannot call this a "celebration" either, and Yellows cannot describe the new timetables as "same great service".
I also know people who will no longer be able to use this bus back to Burton because of the earlier times, so more lost revenue... Unless they provide a RELIABLE service at times suited to people commuting and using it for school travel - then they can't use lower numbers to justify removing it. I hope lots more people complain then they will have to listen. Mr Ambler previously stated in his 6th March article, that LATE evening and Sunday services would be cut but they are no longer providing a service back from Bournemouth after 5.40PM, even worse for people wanting to commute by bus. Sorry but the 7pm service cannot be classed as Late Evening by anyone's rules! I cannot call this a "celebration" either, and Yellows cannot describe the new timetables as "same great service". richt
  • Score: 3

5:08pm Wed 2 Apr 14

bsjc1234 says...

Anyone who want to help move the new YB service 24 onwards by 10 minutes to help the NHS staff, and others including school children, join the debate on twitter using hashtag #yb24
Anyone who want to help move the new YB service 24 onwards by 10 minutes to help the NHS staff, and others including school children, join the debate on twitter using hashtag #yb24 bsjc1234
  • Score: 2

5:34pm Wed 2 Apr 14

skydriver says...

Clearly something Nottage was NOT involved in, otherwise this would never have happened , well there's nothing it for him.
Clearly something Nottage was NOT involved in, otherwise this would never have happened , well there's nothing it for him. skydriver
  • Score: 3

7:22pm Wed 2 Apr 14

fuhamfc12 says...

We're in this position because the old bids wait till 09.30am so they can use the bus pass. The bus company make no money so they aren't able to afford to pay the council.

Get rid of all bus passes. People who need to get to work will miss out as the timings of the new service is mad. The company say people if burton should make full use of the new service, we'll they won't as the old bids will wait until 09.30am to yes the passes, so again no money being made.
We're in this position because the old bids wait till 09.30am so they can use the bus pass. The bus company make no money so they aren't able to afford to pay the council. Get rid of all bus passes. People who need to get to work will miss out as the timings of the new service is mad. The company say people if burton should make full use of the new service, we'll they won't as the old bids will wait until 09.30am to yes the passes, so again no money being made. fuhamfc12
  • Score: -5

8:18pm Wed 2 Apr 14

agp1337 says...

fuhamfc12 wrote:
We're in this position because the old bids wait till 09.30am so they can use the bus pass. The bus company make no money so they aren't able to afford to pay the council.

Get rid of all bus passes. People who need to get to work will miss out as the timings of the new service is mad. The company say people if burton should make full use of the new service, we'll they won't as the old bids will wait until 09.30am to yes the passes, so again no money being made.
Garbage. Have you seen how the bus passes are paid for? The documentation is available, though it's quite (actually very) dull. After churning through it, as I always wondered how the charges were calculated because they have no idea of the length of journey, it's actually worked out as the average cost of a paid journey. In addition there are other, minor, charges - something like .0001p for each journey for administration. This is actually what keeps the bus companies going.
[quote][p][bold]fuhamfc12[/bold] wrote: We're in this position because the old bids wait till 09.30am so they can use the bus pass. The bus company make no money so they aren't able to afford to pay the council. Get rid of all bus passes. People who need to get to work will miss out as the timings of the new service is mad. The company say people if burton should make full use of the new service, we'll they won't as the old bids will wait until 09.30am to yes the passes, so again no money being made.[/p][/quote]Garbage. Have you seen how the bus passes are paid for? The documentation is available, though it's quite (actually very) dull. After churning through it, as I always wondered how the charges were calculated because they have no idea of the length of journey, it's actually worked out as the average cost of a paid journey. In addition there are other, minor, charges - something like .0001p for each journey for administration. This is actually what keeps the bus companies going. agp1337
  • Score: 0

5:25pm Wed 9 Apr 14

grizzly-bear says...

richt wrote:
I also know people who will no longer be able to use this bus back to Burton because of the earlier times, so more lost revenue...

Unless they provide a RELIABLE service at times suited to people commuting and using it for school travel - then they can't use lower numbers to justify removing it.
I hope lots more people complain then they will have to listen.

Mr Ambler previously stated in his 6th March article, that LATE evening and Sunday services would be cut but they are no longer providing a service back from Bournemouth after 5.40PM, even worse for people wanting to commute by bus. Sorry but the 7pm service cannot be classed as Late Evening by anyone's rules!
I cannot call this a "celebration" either, and Yellows cannot describe the new timetables as "same great service".
Exactly.

When the 21 was running my bus fares with the child fares were £42 a week. Now, that drops to £15 for just me as we can no longer catch it home from school. The only people who aren't affected by these changes are the pensioners, the council and yellow buses seem to have forgotten that we aren't all 75 and just meandering to the shops?!

I'd still love to know which schools the "school" services in term time was intended for as they mean anyone leaving burton for other local schools has the choice of being one hour early or 5-15 minutes late (and that's if the buses are running on time!)
[quote][p][bold]richt[/bold] wrote: I also know people who will no longer be able to use this bus back to Burton because of the earlier times, so more lost revenue... Unless they provide a RELIABLE service at times suited to people commuting and using it for school travel - then they can't use lower numbers to justify removing it. I hope lots more people complain then they will have to listen. Mr Ambler previously stated in his 6th March article, that LATE evening and Sunday services would be cut but they are no longer providing a service back from Bournemouth after 5.40PM, even worse for people wanting to commute by bus. Sorry but the 7pm service cannot be classed as Late Evening by anyone's rules! I cannot call this a "celebration" either, and Yellows cannot describe the new timetables as "same great service".[/p][/quote]Exactly. When the 21 was running my bus fares with the child fares were £42 a week. Now, that drops to £15 for just me as we can no longer catch it home from school. The only people who aren't affected by these changes are the pensioners, the council and yellow buses seem to have forgotten that we aren't all 75 and just meandering to the shops?! I'd still love to know which schools the "school" services in term time was intended for as they mean anyone leaving burton for other local schools has the choice of being one hour early or 5-15 minutes late (and that's if the buses are running on time!) grizzly-bear
  • Score: 1

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