UPDATE: Bournemouth children's home investigated as part of latest Jimmy Savile abuse claims

Bournemouth Echo: Bournemouth children's home being investigated as part of latest Jimmy Savile abuse claims Bournemouth children's home being investigated as part of latest Jimmy Savile abuse claims

Claims that disgraced television presenter Jimmy Savile abused children in more than 20 children's homes and schools across England are to be investigated.

It includes a Bournemouth children's home, the name of which has not been revealed.

Allegations dating back to the 1960s, 1970s and 1980s have been handed to the Department for Education (DfE) following a review of documents by the Metropolitan Police.

Local authorities and other relevant institutions have been asked to further investigate the claims, Education Secretary Michael Gove said in a written statement.

Jane Portman, executive director for Adults & Children at Bournemouth Council, said: “On Tuesday we were advised by the Department for Education about an alleged historical incident in a children’s home in the Bournemouth area. 

"This incident is believed to be isolated and relates to Jimmy Savile.  It has been referred to us as part of the Metropolitan Police’s national Operation Yewtree.

“We are very concerned to hear of this allegation and are treating its investigation as an urgent priority.

"Our aim is to establish the facts surrounding the allegation and whether there is any implication for current policy and practice.  We will then publish a report which indicates what the investigation covered, any findings and any conclusions reached.

“We fully expect that report to be made available to the public, unless exceptional circumstances apply.

“We must reassure local people that practices to protect children from harm are very different now to the time in which the alleged incident is understood to have taken place. 

"However, we will welcome any recommendations that may arise from the investigation that could further enhance child protection.”

Jimmy Savile had several links to Bournemouth. He bought a flat on the East Cliff and moved in during April 1972.

He kept the flat and visited occasionally where he was often seen running along the promenade.

The flat was reportedly sold for charity when he died in 2011, aged 84.

Savile also once owned the popular Bournemouth cafe Norwegian Wood in Glen Fern Road and surrounding buildings.

He also worked as a public relations consultant for the Maison Royale/Le Cardinal nightclub complex on Glen Fern Road from 1973 until 1978.

Among children's homes and schools to be further investigated are Henshaw School for the Blind, one of four institutions in Savile's birthplace of Leeds, and a Barnardo's children's home in the London Borough of Redbridge.

Children's homes and schools in focus are spread across England, including Bournemouth, Devon, Gloucestershire, Leeds, London and Manchester among others.

Mr Gove said that, to ensure consistency with the NHS Savile investigations, he would repeat arrangements put in place by the Department of Health to oversee the new inquiries.

Human rights lawyer Lucy Scott-Moncrieff will oversee the process, undertaking a similar role to Kate Lampard in the NHS trust investigations, he added.

''I have asked Lucy Scott-Moncrieff to ensure that investigating organisations take all practicable steps to establish what happened and why at the time of the incidents, and any lessons there might be to inform current safeguarding practice in our schools and children's homes,'' Mr Gove said.

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10:40am Thu 27 Mar 14

Controversial But True says...

Sick Paedo should be dug up and burnt at the stake!
Sick Paedo should be dug up and burnt at the stake! Controversial But True
  • Score: -34

10:46am Thu 27 Mar 14

TheDistrict says...

Not much of him left thank god, but what is can be ground down and scattered in some far off place. I still say his knighthood should be recinded, although apparently the law states that he had not been convicted before death therefore he can retain it. I am sure if Her Majesty was given a gentle nudge, would consider it.
Not much of him left thank god, but what is can be ground down and scattered in some far off place. I still say his knighthood should be recinded, although apparently the law states that he had not been convicted before death therefore he can retain it. I am sure if Her Majesty was given a gentle nudge, would consider it. TheDistrict
  • Score: -34

10:47am Thu 27 Mar 14

TheDistrict says...

I also think the Echo should remove his picture from these pages.
I also think the Echo should remove his picture from these pages. TheDistrict
  • Score: 30

10:59am Thu 27 Mar 14

retry69 says...

TheDistrict wrote:
I also think the Echo should remove his picture from these pages.
I am not so sure,his picture may serve as a stark reminder as to how many people in several authorities were taken in by his ability to cover up his unacceptable behaviour on so many for so long.Lessons may be learnt,one hopes
[quote][p][bold]TheDistrict[/bold] wrote: I also think the Echo should remove his picture from these pages.[/p][/quote]I am not so sure,his picture may serve as a stark reminder as to how many people in several authorities were taken in by his ability to cover up his unacceptable behaviour on so many for so long.Lessons may be learnt,one hopes retry69
  • Score: 16

11:02am Thu 27 Mar 14

Buddles says...

TheDistrict wrote:
I also think the Echo should remove his picture from these pages.
Quite.

I'm sick and tired of seeing this creature's "cheeky chirpy" fizzog in any article concerning investigations into his visits to children's homes and/or hospitals. We all know what the creep looks like.

He needs digging up and deposited out at sea, preferably over the Mariana Trench.
[quote][p][bold]TheDistrict[/bold] wrote: I also think the Echo should remove his picture from these pages.[/p][/quote]Quite. I'm sick and tired of seeing this creature's "cheeky chirpy" fizzog in any article concerning investigations into his visits to children's homes and/or hospitals. We all know what the creep looks like. He needs digging up and deposited out at sea, preferably over the Mariana Trench. Buddles
  • Score: -18

11:18am Thu 27 Mar 14

skydriver says...

TheDistrict wrote:
I also think the Echo should remove his picture from these pages.
Yes quite agree, why does his picture always have to attach its self to the story, everyone, sadly, can remember his horrible face
[quote][p][bold]TheDistrict[/bold] wrote: I also think the Echo should remove his picture from these pages.[/p][/quote]Yes quite agree, why does his picture always have to attach its self to the story, everyone, sadly, can remember his horrible face skydriver
  • Score: 19

11:28am Thu 27 Mar 14

60plus says...

I am a bit bothered a lot of people are jumping on the band wagon to claim compensation .
I am a bit bothered a lot of people are jumping on the band wagon to claim compensation . 60plus
  • Score: 51

12:51pm Thu 27 Mar 14

Richard 1976 says...

The week of his funeral I was working on a garden in North Yorkshire hence I had bbc radio York on my radio.. The station gave full coverage of his funeral as though it was a state occasion..the journey from Leeds down the 60 or so miles to scarborough and to where he was buried..people looking out for the cortège from bridges, clapping as he slowly moved along scarboroughs seafront.. The coverage was way over the top to say the least.. Little did we know what that bas***d had been doing.. What a truly evil man to have hoodwinked us all let alone the poor individuals who were collared by him.. Rot in hell you freak saville
The week of his funeral I was working on a garden in North Yorkshire hence I had bbc radio York on my radio.. The station gave full coverage of his funeral as though it was a state occasion..the journey from Leeds down the 60 or so miles to scarborough and to where he was buried..people looking out for the cortège from bridges, clapping as he slowly moved along scarboroughs seafront.. The coverage was way over the top to say the least.. Little did we know what that bas***d had been doing.. What a truly evil man to have hoodwinked us all let alone the poor individuals who were collared by him.. Rot in hell you freak saville Richard 1976
  • Score: -29

1:16pm Thu 27 Mar 14

Sir Beachy Head says...

Lets not forget he did a lot of good work for charity. And I mean LOTS.
Lets not forget he did a lot of good work for charity. And I mean LOTS. Sir Beachy Head
  • Score: 27

1:24pm Thu 27 Mar 14

apm1954 says...

Sir Beachy Head wrote:
Lets not forget he did a lot of good work for charity. And I mean LOTS.
and helped himself to innocent kids hope he is rotting in hell.
[quote][p][bold]Sir Beachy Head[/bold] wrote: Lets not forget he did a lot of good work for charity. And I mean LOTS.[/p][/quote]and helped himself to innocent kids hope he is rotting in hell. apm1954
  • Score: 9

1:27pm Thu 27 Mar 14

BourneRiver says...

Sir Beachy Head wrote:
Lets not forget he did a lot of good work for charity. And I mean LOTS.
Well that's ok then.....I just wish you had pointed this out earlier so we could have continued to worship him for the saint he was.
[quote][p][bold]Sir Beachy Head[/bold] wrote: Lets not forget he did a lot of good work for charity. And I mean LOTS.[/p][/quote]Well that's ok then.....I just wish you had pointed this out earlier so we could have continued to worship him for the saint he was. BourneRiver
  • Score: 9

1:35pm Thu 27 Mar 14

Sir Beachy Head says...

BourneRiver wrote:
Sir Beachy Head wrote:
Lets not forget he did a lot of good work for charity. And I mean LOTS.
Well that's ok then.....I just wish you had pointed this out earlier so we could have continued to worship him for the saint he was.
Are we all not a mixture of good and bad ?

Let he without sin cast the first stone as they say.
[quote][p][bold]BourneRiver[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sir Beachy Head[/bold] wrote: Lets not forget he did a lot of good work for charity. And I mean LOTS.[/p][/quote]Well that's ok then.....I just wish you had pointed this out earlier so we could have continued to worship him for the saint he was.[/p][/quote]Are we all not a mixture of good and bad ? Let he without sin cast the first stone as they say. Sir Beachy Head
  • Score: 15

1:39pm Thu 27 Mar 14

we-shall-see says...

60plus wrote:
I am a bit bothered a lot of people are jumping on the band wagon to claim compensation .
I totally agree - and since almost every other celebrity who has been to court so far, has been found NOT GUILTY - who is to say that Saville would have been found guilty? It's trial by media, not by the courts and I for one am not entirely happy with the way he has been branded like this, without the ability to have a fair trial.

As a young woman in the 70's I can tell you everyone threw themselves at the DJ's etc. We knew what we were doing of course - so why would those women now come forward to say he molested them or worse? Band wagon jumping and money is the reason in my opinion.
[quote][p][bold]60plus[/bold] wrote: I am a bit bothered a lot of people are jumping on the band wagon to claim compensation .[/p][/quote]I totally agree - and since almost every other celebrity who has been to court so far, has been found NOT GUILTY - who is to say that Saville would have been found guilty? It's trial by media, not by the courts and I for one am not entirely happy with the way he has been branded like this, without the ability to have a fair trial. As a young woman in the 70's I can tell you everyone threw themselves at the DJ's etc. We knew what we were doing of course - so why would those women now come forward to say he molested them or worse? Band wagon jumping and money is the reason in my opinion. we-shall-see
  • Score: 39

2:15pm Thu 27 Mar 14

big_afcb_fan says...

Sir Beachy Head wrote:
BourneRiver wrote:
Sir Beachy Head wrote:
Lets not forget he did a lot of good work for charity. And I mean LOTS.
Well that's ok then.....I just wish you had pointed this out earlier so we could have continued to worship him for the saint he was.
Are we all not a mixture of good and bad ?

Let he without sin cast the first stone as they say.
troll of the highest order you are.
[quote][p][bold]Sir Beachy Head[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BourneRiver[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sir Beachy Head[/bold] wrote: Lets not forget he did a lot of good work for charity. And I mean LOTS.[/p][/quote]Well that's ok then.....I just wish you had pointed this out earlier so we could have continued to worship him for the saint he was.[/p][/quote]Are we all not a mixture of good and bad ? Let he without sin cast the first stone as they say.[/p][/quote]troll of the highest order you are. big_afcb_fan
  • Score: -7

2:55pm Thu 27 Mar 14

coolgranny says...

PLEASE can a photo be found of this despicable person that doesn't show his smug, self-satisfied face, with the false smile that hides so much evil.
PLEASE can a photo be found of this despicable person that doesn't show his smug, self-satisfied face, with the false smile that hides so much evil. coolgranny
  • Score: -3

3:07pm Thu 27 Mar 14

Controversial But True says...

Controversial But True wrote:
Sick Paedo should be dug up and burnt at the stake!
Clearly a lot of paedo sympathisers out there judging by all the thumbs down!

Disgusting!
[quote][p][bold]Controversial But True[/bold] wrote: Sick Paedo should be dug up and burnt at the stake![/p][/quote]Clearly a lot of paedo sympathisers out there judging by all the thumbs down! Disgusting! Controversial But True
  • Score: -8

3:21pm Thu 27 Mar 14

rozmister says...

Controversial But True wrote:
Controversial But True wrote: Sick Paedo should be dug up and burnt at the stake!
Clearly a lot of paedo sympathisers out there judging by all the thumbs down! Disgusting!
I think people just find your suggestion of digging up a dead body, dragging it out of a grave in a decomposed state, tying it to a stake and setting on fire extremely repulsive. The fact other people don't share your morbid concept of justice doesn't make them paedo sympathisers.
[quote][p][bold]Controversial But True[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Controversial But True[/bold] wrote: Sick Paedo should be dug up and burnt at the stake![/p][/quote]Clearly a lot of paedo sympathisers out there judging by all the thumbs down! Disgusting![/p][/quote]I think people just find your suggestion of digging up a dead body, dragging it out of a grave in a decomposed state, tying it to a stake and setting on fire extremely repulsive. The fact other people don't share your morbid concept of justice doesn't make them paedo sympathisers. rozmister
  • Score: 26

3:57pm Thu 27 Mar 14

keith milton says...

i was telling people 20yrs ago about savile,and the rest of the paedo's in government,media,roy
als etc,

and was called a nutter,makes me laugh to see you all slagging him off now.

but concentrating on savile is letting the rest of the filthy perverts,who rule over you,get away with it,because it is still going on.
i was telling people 20yrs ago about savile,and the rest of the paedo's in government,media,roy als etc, and was called a nutter,makes me laugh to see you all slagging him off now. but concentrating on savile is letting the rest of the filthy perverts,who rule over you,get away with it,because it is still going on. keith milton
  • Score: 6

4:21pm Thu 27 Mar 14

Gingertree says...

Controversial But True wrote:
Sick Paedo should be dug up and burnt at the stake!
I'd even gladly light the fire
[quote][p][bold]Controversial But True[/bold] wrote: Sick Paedo should be dug up and burnt at the stake![/p][/quote]I'd even gladly light the fire Gingertree
  • Score: -16

4:33pm Thu 27 Mar 14

abc100 says...

keith milton wrote:
i was telling people 20yrs ago about savile,and the rest of the paedo's in government,media,roy als etc, and was called a nutter,makes me laugh to see you all slagging him off now. but concentrating on savile is letting the rest of the filthy perverts,who rule over you,get away with it,because it is still going on.
What did the police say 20 years ago when you contacted them to tell them Saville was a paedophile?? Have they re interviewed you since all these allegations have come out?? I'm to young to remember when he was hanging around at the ice rink on westover rd but from the rumours I've heard for years it was always talked about
[quote][p][bold]keith milton[/bold] wrote: i was telling people 20yrs ago about savile,and the rest of the paedo's in government,media,roy als etc, and was called a nutter,makes me laugh to see you all slagging him off now. but concentrating on savile is letting the rest of the filthy perverts,who rule over you,get away with it,because it is still going on.[/p][/quote]What did the police say 20 years ago when you contacted them to tell them Saville was a paedophile?? Have they re interviewed you since all these allegations have come out?? I'm to young to remember when he was hanging around at the ice rink on westover rd but from the rumours I've heard for years it was always talked about abc100
  • Score: 3

4:50pm Thu 27 Mar 14

rusty james says...

Genuinely stunned and appalled. Reading through the comments and taking account of the thumb votes it would seem there's still a lot of love around these parts for that odious freak. I'm assuming it's the older section of the community who can't see beyond his charity work. Come on! He molested children. Like your grandkids!
Genuinely stunned and appalled. Reading through the comments and taking account of the thumb votes it would seem there's still a lot of love around these parts for that odious freak. I'm assuming it's the older section of the community who can't see beyond his charity work. Come on! He molested children. Like your grandkids! rusty james
  • Score: -12

5:08pm Thu 27 Mar 14

Controversial But True says...

rozmister wrote:
Controversial But True wrote:
Controversial But True wrote: Sick Paedo should be dug up and burnt at the stake!
Clearly a lot of paedo sympathisers out there judging by all the thumbs down! Disgusting!
I think people just find your suggestion of digging up a dead body, dragging it out of a grave in a decomposed state, tying it to a stake and setting on fire extremely repulsive. The fact other people don't share your morbid concept of justice doesn't make them paedo sympathisers.
Most people can usually spot and indeed recognise a metaphor!
[quote][p][bold]rozmister[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Controversial But True[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Controversial But True[/bold] wrote: Sick Paedo should be dug up and burnt at the stake![/p][/quote]Clearly a lot of paedo sympathisers out there judging by all the thumbs down! Disgusting![/p][/quote]I think people just find your suggestion of digging up a dead body, dragging it out of a grave in a decomposed state, tying it to a stake and setting on fire extremely repulsive. The fact other people don't share your morbid concept of justice doesn't make them paedo sympathisers.[/p][/quote]Most people can usually spot and indeed recognise a metaphor! Controversial But True
  • Score: -10

5:24pm Thu 27 Mar 14

HRH of Boscombe says...

Sir Beachy Head wrote:
Lets not forget he did a lot of good work for charity. And I mean LOTS.
Only to worm his way into establishments full of vulnerable victims like children's homes and hospitals.
.
Just look at those hospitals. Stoke Mandeville Hospital, Leeds General Infirmary and Broadmoor Hospital, all places where he is accused of abuse.
.
How can you be so blind?
.
Are you Judge Wiggs?
[quote][p][bold]Sir Beachy Head[/bold] wrote: Lets not forget he did a lot of good work for charity. And I mean LOTS.[/p][/quote]Only to worm his way into establishments full of vulnerable victims like children's homes and hospitals. . Just look at those hospitals. Stoke Mandeville Hospital, Leeds General Infirmary and Broadmoor Hospital, all places where he is accused of abuse. . How can you be so blind? . Are you Judge Wiggs? HRH of Boscombe
  • Score: -10

6:01pm Thu 27 Mar 14

BmthLocalite says...

'jumping on the bandwagon for compensation' or 'everyone was at it in the 70s'????

Do you have any idea what views like that do to people that have been genuine victims of abuse and from somewhere find the strength to tell the people they need to?

And yes, he might have done a lot of good work for charity, this doesn't override the fact that he was a predator, and there isn't some sort of 'balance sheet' in these things... he's destroyed hundreds of lives and robbed people's innocence. Abuse is abuse and it cannot be tolerated.
'jumping on the bandwagon for compensation' or 'everyone was at it in the 70s'???? Do you have any idea what views like that do to people that have been genuine victims of abuse and from somewhere find the strength to tell the people they need to? And yes, he might have done a lot of good work for charity, this doesn't override the fact that he was a predator, and there isn't some sort of 'balance sheet' in these things... he's destroyed hundreds of lives and robbed people's innocence. Abuse is abuse and it cannot be tolerated. BmthLocalite
  • Score: -10

6:06pm Thu 27 Mar 14

Phixer says...

retry69 wrote:
TheDistrict wrote:
I also think the Echo should remove his picture from these pages.
I am not so sure,his picture may serve as a stark reminder as to how many people in several authorities were taken in by his ability to cover up his unacceptable behaviour on so many for so long.Lessons may be learnt,one hopes
Whether a picture is published or not the Echo management is once again insensitive in its choice of mugshot for someone who is alleged - and they are nothing more than allegations - of committing crimes.
[quote][p][bold]retry69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TheDistrict[/bold] wrote: I also think the Echo should remove his picture from these pages.[/p][/quote]I am not so sure,his picture may serve as a stark reminder as to how many people in several authorities were taken in by his ability to cover up his unacceptable behaviour on so many for so long.Lessons may be learnt,one hopes[/p][/quote]Whether a picture is published or not the Echo management is once again insensitive in its choice of mugshot for someone who is alleged - and they are nothing more than allegations - of committing crimes. Phixer
  • Score: 0

6:08pm Thu 27 Mar 14

Phixer says...

Controversial But True wrote:
Sick Paedo should be dug up and burnt at the stake!
I must have been asleep! Remind me, when was his trial and how many allegations were proven?
[quote][p][bold]Controversial But True[/bold] wrote: Sick Paedo should be dug up and burnt at the stake![/p][/quote]I must have been asleep! Remind me, when was his trial and how many allegations were proven? Phixer
  • Score: 12

6:32pm Thu 27 Mar 14

we-shall-see says...

The uneducated pack mentality is what causes all this rumpus. One allegation - NOT PROVED - turns into many and ALL without PROOF of any kind.

As I said before, trial by MEDIA does NOT make of of the ALLEGATIONS TRUE.

Yes, he was weird and eccentric even, but I seriously have my doubts about anything else and since he can never stand trial for his accusers, then I feel ashamed that this country has allowed his name to be smeared in this way without the benefit of a FAIR AND LEGAL TRIAL.

DLT = NOT GUILTY

William Roache = NOT GUILTY

Michael LeVeil = NOT GUILTY

and a host of others, so why do people ASSUME Savile was GUILTY? He could just as easily have been proved otherwise had he lived to be taken to trial.

The thing I find most amazing is how many people come out with accusations after he died. Why did they not come out with it before? And now we are told some of those will be getting compensation - WHY? He has not been proved guilty in a court of LAW!!!

The whole affair is sick and twisted and I do not refer to the actions of a man who spent his whole life helping other people >:o(
The uneducated pack mentality is what causes all this rumpus. One allegation - NOT PROVED - turns into many and ALL without PROOF of any kind. As I said before, trial by MEDIA does NOT make of of the ALLEGATIONS TRUE. Yes, he was weird and eccentric even, but I seriously have my doubts about anything else and since he can never stand trial for his accusers, then I feel ashamed that this country has allowed his name to be smeared in this way without the benefit of a FAIR AND LEGAL TRIAL. DLT = NOT GUILTY William Roache = NOT GUILTY Michael LeVeil = NOT GUILTY and a host of others, so why do people ASSUME Savile was GUILTY? He could just as easily have been proved otherwise had he lived to be taken to trial. The thing I find most amazing is how many people come out with accusations after he died. Why did they not come out with it before? And now we are told some of those will be getting compensation - WHY? He has not been proved guilty in a court of LAW!!! The whole affair is sick and twisted and I do not refer to the actions of a man who spent his whole life helping other people >:o( we-shall-see
  • Score: 11

6:32pm Thu 27 Mar 14

retry69 says...

Phixer wrote:
retry69 wrote:
TheDistrict wrote:
I also think the Echo should remove his picture from these pages.
I am not so sure,his picture may serve as a stark reminder as to how many people in several authorities were taken in by his ability to cover up his unacceptable behaviour on so many for so long.Lessons may be learnt,one hopes
Whether a picture is published or not the Echo management is once again insensitive in its choice of mugshot for someone who is alleged - and they are nothing more than allegations - of committing crimes.
You name is not Wiggs by any chance is it ? Just asking.
[quote][p][bold]Phixer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]retry69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TheDistrict[/bold] wrote: I also think the Echo should remove his picture from these pages.[/p][/quote]I am not so sure,his picture may serve as a stark reminder as to how many people in several authorities were taken in by his ability to cover up his unacceptable behaviour on so many for so long.Lessons may be learnt,one hopes[/p][/quote]Whether a picture is published or not the Echo management is once again insensitive in its choice of mugshot for someone who is alleged - and they are nothing more than allegations - of committing crimes.[/p][/quote]You name is not Wiggs by any chance is it ? Just asking. retry69
  • Score: -4

6:58pm Thu 27 Mar 14

abc100 says...

we-shall-see wrote:
The uneducated pack mentality is what causes all this rumpus. One allegation - NOT PROVED - turns into many and ALL without PROOF of any kind.

As I said before, trial by MEDIA does NOT make of of the ALLEGATIONS TRUE.

Yes, he was weird and eccentric even, but I seriously have my doubts about anything else and since he can never stand trial for his accusers, then I feel ashamed that this country has allowed his name to be smeared in this way without the benefit of a FAIR AND LEGAL TRIAL.

DLT = NOT GUILTY

William Roache = NOT GUILTY

Michael LeVeil = NOT GUILTY

and a host of others, so why do people ASSUME Savile was GUILTY? He could just as easily have been proved otherwise had he lived to be taken to trial.

The thing I find most amazing is how many people come out with accusations after he died. Why did they not come out with it before? And now we are told some of those will be getting compensation - WHY? He has not been proved guilty in a court of LAW!!!

The whole affair is sick and twisted and I do not refer to the actions of a man who spent his whole life helping other people >:o(
Bring found not guilty does not mean they didn't do it, plenty of people are found not guilty of things, and not everyone in prison is guilty of what they are supposed to of done, also plenty came forward when Saville was alive,
[quote][p][bold]we-shall-see[/bold] wrote: The uneducated pack mentality is what causes all this rumpus. One allegation - NOT PROVED - turns into many and ALL without PROOF of any kind. As I said before, trial by MEDIA does NOT make of of the ALLEGATIONS TRUE. Yes, he was weird and eccentric even, but I seriously have my doubts about anything else and since he can never stand trial for his accusers, then I feel ashamed that this country has allowed his name to be smeared in this way without the benefit of a FAIR AND LEGAL TRIAL. DLT = NOT GUILTY William Roache = NOT GUILTY Michael LeVeil = NOT GUILTY and a host of others, so why do people ASSUME Savile was GUILTY? He could just as easily have been proved otherwise had he lived to be taken to trial. The thing I find most amazing is how many people come out with accusations after he died. Why did they not come out with it before? And now we are told some of those will be getting compensation - WHY? He has not been proved guilty in a court of LAW!!! The whole affair is sick and twisted and I do not refer to the actions of a man who spent his whole life helping other people >:o([/p][/quote]Bring found not guilty does not mean they didn't do it, plenty of people are found not guilty of things, and not everyone in prison is guilty of what they are supposed to of done, also plenty came forward when Saville was alive, abc100
  • Score: -2

7:25pm Thu 27 Mar 14

rusty james says...

we-shall-see wrote:
The uneducated pack mentality is what causes all this rumpus. One allegation - NOT PROVED - turns into many and ALL without PROOF of any kind.

As I said before, trial by MEDIA does NOT make of of the ALLEGATIONS TRUE.

Yes, he was weird and eccentric even, but I seriously have my doubts about anything else and since he can never stand trial for his accusers, then I feel ashamed that this country has allowed his name to be smeared in this way without the benefit of a FAIR AND LEGAL TRIAL.

DLT = NOT GUILTY

William Roache = NOT GUILTY

Michael LeVeil = NOT GUILTY

and a host of others, so why do people ASSUME Savile was GUILTY? He could just as easily have been proved otherwise had he lived to be taken to trial.

The thing I find most amazing is how many people come out with accusations after he died. Why did they not come out with it before? And now we are told some of those will be getting compensation - WHY? He has not been proved guilty in a court of LAW!!!

The whole affair is sick and twisted and I do not refer to the actions of a man who spent his whole life helping other people >:o(
Scary.
Bungalow minds with the blinds closed tight.
[quote][p][bold]we-shall-see[/bold] wrote: The uneducated pack mentality is what causes all this rumpus. One allegation - NOT PROVED - turns into many and ALL without PROOF of any kind. As I said before, trial by MEDIA does NOT make of of the ALLEGATIONS TRUE. Yes, he was weird and eccentric even, but I seriously have my doubts about anything else and since he can never stand trial for his accusers, then I feel ashamed that this country has allowed his name to be smeared in this way without the benefit of a FAIR AND LEGAL TRIAL. DLT = NOT GUILTY William Roache = NOT GUILTY Michael LeVeil = NOT GUILTY and a host of others, so why do people ASSUME Savile was GUILTY? He could just as easily have been proved otherwise had he lived to be taken to trial. The thing I find most amazing is how many people come out with accusations after he died. Why did they not come out with it before? And now we are told some of those will be getting compensation - WHY? He has not been proved guilty in a court of LAW!!! The whole affair is sick and twisted and I do not refer to the actions of a man who spent his whole life helping other people >:o([/p][/quote]Scary. Bungalow minds with the blinds closed tight. rusty james
  • Score: 3

7:33pm Thu 27 Mar 14

O'Reilly says...

HRH of Boscombe wrote:
Sir Beachy Head wrote:
Lets not forget he did a lot of good work for charity. And I mean LOTS.
Only to worm his way into establishments full of vulnerable victims like children's homes and hospitals.
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Just look at those hospitals. Stoke Mandeville Hospital, Leeds General Infirmary and Broadmoor Hospital, all places where he is accused of abuse.
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How can you be so blind?
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Are you Judge Wiggs?
He was also brought in for questioning vis-a-vis the Yorkshire Ripper Murders.....and of course later became a good friend of Sutcliffe in Broadmoor. Still remember the slimey bast*rd introducing Frank Bruno to Sutcliffe with a handshake and a photo opportunity, poor old Frank didn't know who he was shaking hands with.......
[quote][p][bold]HRH of Boscombe[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sir Beachy Head[/bold] wrote: Lets not forget he did a lot of good work for charity. And I mean LOTS.[/p][/quote]Only to worm his way into establishments full of vulnerable victims like children's homes and hospitals. . Just look at those hospitals. Stoke Mandeville Hospital, Leeds General Infirmary and Broadmoor Hospital, all places where he is accused of abuse. . How can you be so blind? . Are you Judge Wiggs?[/p][/quote]He was also brought in for questioning vis-a-vis the Yorkshire Ripper Murders.....and of course later became a good friend of Sutcliffe in Broadmoor. Still remember the slimey bast*rd introducing Frank Bruno to Sutcliffe with a handshake and a photo opportunity, poor old Frank didn't know who he was shaking hands with....... O'Reilly
  • Score: 2

7:36pm Thu 27 Mar 14

O'Reilly says...

I notice the Jimmy Savile fan club are out in force........hang your heads in shame.
I notice the Jimmy Savile fan club are out in force........hang your heads in shame. O'Reilly
  • Score: -2

7:58pm Thu 27 Mar 14

themindboggles says...

Anyone thing people with something to hide maybe logging in and out to adjust the arrows? I always wondered what the arrows were for. Maybe this is it, to try to falsify public opinion.
Anyone thing people with something to hide maybe logging in and out to adjust the arrows? I always wondered what the arrows were for. Maybe this is it, to try to falsify public opinion. themindboggles
  • Score: -4

9:51pm Thu 27 Mar 14

sprintervanman says...

As someone who was raised in the care system, it was safer than having more than one fractured skull and broken bones staying in the family home at 11 years old.Two points i would like to make.Savile is dead in case no one has noticed and i really dont think he is at this moment in time slightly worried about his accountability for his crimes so why drag it up over and over.My up bringing in the care homes was one of love, understanding and knowing right from wrong.Dont any of you dare bring down the love that many who worked within care homes and gave hope and trust to children like me when people assume that they were all like Savile.I've raised a Family of my own and built a solid life for us through hard work, morels and being taught to take care of those less fortunate than myself or more vulnerable. Bless all those who rebuild a childs life when it was destroyed by those closest to them....Thankyou.
As someone who was raised in the care system, it was safer than having more than one fractured skull and broken bones staying in the family home at 11 years old.Two points i would like to make.Savile is dead in case no one has noticed and i really dont think he is at this moment in time slightly worried about his accountability for his crimes so why drag it up over and over.My up bringing in the care homes was one of love, understanding and knowing right from wrong.Dont any of you dare bring down the love that many who worked within care homes and gave hope and trust to children like me when people assume that they were all like Savile.I've raised a Family of my own and built a solid life for us through hard work, morels and being taught to take care of those less fortunate than myself or more vulnerable. Bless all those who rebuild a childs life when it was destroyed by those closest to them....Thankyou. sprintervanman
  • Score: 0

10:20pm Thu 27 Mar 14

Yankee1 says...

The inscription on his headstone:

'It was good while it lasted.'

That alone is good reason to scatter his bones to oblivion. The bu@@er got away with it..in life.
The inscription on his headstone: 'It was good while it lasted.' That alone is good reason to scatter his bones to oblivion. The bu@@er got away with it..in life. Yankee1
  • Score: 3

10:22pm Thu 27 Mar 14

Yankee1 says...

60plus wrote:
I am a bit bothered a lot of people are jumping on the band wagon to claim compensation .
That is exactly the response John Paul II had about problems in his church. Exactly.
[quote][p][bold]60plus[/bold] wrote: I am a bit bothered a lot of people are jumping on the band wagon to claim compensation .[/p][/quote]That is exactly the response John Paul II had about problems in his church. Exactly. Yankee1
  • Score: 5

12:49am Fri 28 Mar 14

Nigel Blumenthal says...

This may be an unpopular point of view, but... why are we having an enquiry now? What possible use can there be in dragging the past of all these people, whether alleged perpetrators or alleged victims, through the media, when Saville is now dead.

It's typical of the British approach to major issues like this: "Don't let's actually do anything, we'll have an enquiry, which will make recommendations, which will be totally ignored". I can hear the nauseating, snivelling apologies now, from the people who were in charge of child protection agencies, but who failed to do their jobs: "Oh, we're so sorry. Lessons will be learned."

The time to have done anything about this was long ago, when rumours and stories first surfaced. Now there's nothing positive that will come out of this, except that more lawyers will earn a lot of money for court appearances. In typical Brit fashion, there will be no consequences for anyone. Mark my words.
This may be an unpopular point of view, but... why are we having an enquiry now? What possible use can there be in dragging the past of all these people, whether alleged perpetrators or alleged victims, through the media, when Saville is now dead. It's typical of the British approach to major issues like this: "Don't let's actually do anything, we'll have an enquiry, which will make recommendations, which will be totally ignored". I can hear the nauseating, snivelling apologies now, from the people who were in charge of child protection agencies, but who failed to do their jobs: "Oh, we're so sorry. Lessons will be learned." The time to have done anything about this was long ago, when rumours and stories first surfaced. Now there's nothing positive that will come out of this, except that more lawyers will earn a lot of money for court appearances. In typical Brit fashion, there will be no consequences for anyone. Mark my words. Nigel Blumenthal
  • Score: 0

4:20am Fri 28 Mar 14

Dr Martin says...

keith milton wrote:
i was telling people 20yrs ago about savile,and the rest of the paedo's in government,media,roy

als etc,

and was called a nutter,makes me laugh to see you all slagging him off now.

but concentrating on savile is letting the rest of the filthy perverts,who rule over you,get away with it,because it is still going on.
I suppose you can back this up with evidence rather than hearsay
[quote][p][bold]keith milton[/bold] wrote: i was telling people 20yrs ago about savile,and the rest of the paedo's in government,media,roy als etc, and was called a nutter,makes me laugh to see you all slagging him off now. but concentrating on savile is letting the rest of the filthy perverts,who rule over you,get away with it,because it is still going on.[/p][/quote]I suppose you can back this up with evidence rather than hearsay Dr Martin
  • Score: 3

7:14am Fri 28 Mar 14

abc100 says...

Dr Martin wrote:
keith milton wrote:
i was telling people 20yrs ago about savile,and the rest of the paedo's in government,media,roy


als etc,

and was called a nutter,makes me laugh to see you all slagging him off now.

but concentrating on savile is letting the rest of the filthy perverts,who rule over you,get away with it,because it is still going on.
I suppose you can back this up with evidence rather than hearsay
I've asked Keith what the police said 20 years ago when he passed on this information that he has, have they re interviewed him since Saville died, so far he hasn't replied that I have seen but I am looking forward to his answer !!!!!
[quote][p][bold]Dr Martin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]keith milton[/bold] wrote: i was telling people 20yrs ago about savile,and the rest of the paedo's in government,media,roy als etc, and was called a nutter,makes me laugh to see you all slagging him off now. but concentrating on savile is letting the rest of the filthy perverts,who rule over you,get away with it,because it is still going on.[/p][/quote]I suppose you can back this up with evidence rather than hearsay[/p][/quote]I've asked Keith what the police said 20 years ago when he passed on this information that he has, have they re interviewed him since Saville died, so far he hasn't replied that I have seen but I am looking forward to his answer !!!!! abc100
  • Score: 7

8:45am Fri 28 Mar 14

pete woodley says...

The police do act on information,i know i have helped convict offenders before,but they often want more than one person to report,not just one person perhaps having a personal grudge.Regrettable the process is sometimes slow,as parents of children involved do not want publicity, and worst still a lot of the public "turn a blind eye".I believe that if a suspect is in the public eye,and well known,then the police do tread very carefully.When i was a park patrolman for the council based in the pleasure gardens,my attention was brought several times to "suspects",one was a TV personality,who was with a council official (now deceased) i reported this to council and police,but heard nothing.
The police do act on information,i know i have helped convict offenders before,but they often want more than one person to report,not just one person perhaps having a personal grudge.Regrettable the process is sometimes slow,as parents of children involved do not want publicity, and worst still a lot of the public "turn a blind eye".I believe that if a suspect is in the public eye,and well known,then the police do tread very carefully.When i was a park patrolman for the council based in the pleasure gardens,my attention was brought several times to "suspects",one was a TV personality,who was with a council official (now deceased) i reported this to council and police,but heard nothing. pete woodley
  • Score: 4

1:27pm Fri 28 Mar 14

Moor Larkin says...

Jimmy's Bournemouth flat featured on "Through the Keyhole" as it happens. His Leeds flat was also featured in that show another time. Sounds like a man living in plain sight rather than hiding anything. Given the general revealing of Operation Yewtree to be such a sinister propaganda with no basis in truth, I'm more and more inclined to treat these wild allegations about Jimmy himself with derision. It's already been established that much that was written originally was wrong factually. For instance, the allegations he abused folk at BBC TV Centre on Top of the Pops could not have been true because in the last Sixties that show wasn't made at that place. Similarly his two series at the heart of the "Duncroft/Exposure" allegations were not made there either, even though the Victims seem to have visualised themselves in that building. The legal Establishment in this country seems to have lost its marbles.
Jimmy's Bournemouth flat featured on "Through the Keyhole" as it happens. His Leeds flat was also featured in that show another time. Sounds like a man living in plain sight rather than hiding anything. Given the general revealing of Operation Yewtree to be such a sinister propaganda with no basis in truth, I'm more and more inclined to treat these wild allegations about Jimmy himself with derision. It's already been established that much that was written originally was wrong factually. For instance, the allegations he abused folk at BBC TV Centre on Top of the Pops could not have been true because in the last Sixties that show wasn't made at that place. Similarly his two series at the heart of the "Duncroft/Exposure" allegations were not made there either, even though the Victims seem to have visualised themselves in that building. The legal Establishment in this country seems to have lost its marbles. Moor Larkin
  • Score: 2

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