Crackdown on speeding drivers is hailed a success after volunteers take to the streets

Bournemouth Echo: Volunteers conducting speed checks Volunteers conducting speed checks

A COMMUNITY speed watch scheme in Bournemouth is being hailed a success two months after it started.

Back in January, members of Poole Hill Neighbourhood Watch joined forces to set up the group, who use hand-held devices to measure traffic speed on roads in and around the town centre.

Drivers breaking the speed limit have their registration number taken down and passed on to Dorset Police, who then send a warning letter to the address of the vehicle’s registered keeper.

Norman Decent, the group’s co-ordinator, said: “I hadn’t thought I would ever do something like this before but we are very pleased with how it has gone so far.

“We have a team of nine, with three cameras between us, and we have been out a few times since January – all local people doing their bit for their community and encouraging people to be safer drivers.

“We have had great training from the local safer neighbourhood team, and when we are out they check up on us to make sure we aren’t having any problems.”

The group has targeted roads where problems have been reported, with mixed results.

One group on East Overcliff Drive recorded 19 speeding motorists out of 46 cars which passed in the time they were there. On another occasion, in West Hill Road, West Cliff, only two out of 106 cars were recorded breaking the limit.

The group are planning to target Suffolk Road in the near future after complaints from local residents at Tuesday’s Poole Hill Neighbourhood Watch meeting.

“It is quite a wide road and we understand that cars tend to speed along there between the car park and Cambridge Road,” Mr Decent added.

The volunteers are also noting the details of drivers using mobile phones or not wearing seat belts. The police then send out warning letters. If a vehicle is observed breaking the speed limit three times police may take further action.

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11:12am Wed 19 Mar 14

suzigirl says...

Curtain twitchers!
Curtain twitchers! suzigirl
  • Score: 10

11:17am Wed 19 Mar 14

billy bumble says...

Decent by name but apparently not by nature

Bunch of Quislings
Decent by name but apparently not by nature Bunch of Quislings billy bumble
  • Score: 11

11:25am Wed 19 Mar 14

muscliffman says...

We have publicly paid professionals employed to do this sort of thing. It must take a particularly unpleasant and nasty type of person to do this to their fellow citizens - free of charge. They should all be thoroughly ashamed of themselves, the old Soviet KGB however would be delighted!
We have publicly paid professionals employed to do this sort of thing. It must take a particularly unpleasant and nasty type of person to do this to their fellow citizens - free of charge. They should all be thoroughly ashamed of themselves, the old Soviet KGB however would be delighted! muscliffman
  • Score: 22

11:56am Wed 19 Mar 14

billy bumble says...

My Lord - imagine being married to that woman
My Lord - imagine being married to that woman billy bumble
  • Score: 11

12:28pm Wed 19 Mar 14

rayc says...

"A COMMUNITY speed watch scheme in Bournemouth is being hailed a success two months after it started."
By whom and by what criteria?
"A COMMUNITY speed watch scheme in Bournemouth is being hailed a success two months after it started." By whom and by what criteria? rayc
  • Score: 19

1:00pm Wed 19 Mar 14

kalebmoledirt says...

Now these dodgy old **** have found a hobby to replace clogging up checkouts,can we expect the traffic police to abandon their expensive cars and be assigned to proper policing.that cannot be done by giddy old people
Now these dodgy old **** have found a hobby to replace clogging up checkouts,can we expect the traffic police to abandon their expensive cars and be assigned to proper policing.that cannot be done by giddy old people kalebmoledirt
  • Score: 6

1:09pm Wed 19 Mar 14

Tictock says...

Well, what a said bunch of people, vigilantes to extreme! Can you not find something worthwhile to do, like charity work.
Few questions:
Are the measuring machines calibrated and how frequently checked?
What training on siting and using the devices given and it at a national policing standard?
How legal is the police letter and what happens to the data once the letters have been sent?
What is the appeals procedure?
Come on Echo, get into this and do some real investigate journalism, let's have comments from the police, ACPO and the Police Federation?

Lets see some journo energy as with the FSB reporting.
Well, what a said bunch of people, vigilantes to extreme! Can you not find something worthwhile to do, like charity work. Few questions: Are the measuring machines calibrated and how frequently checked? What training on siting and using the devices given and it at a national policing standard? How legal is the police letter and what happens to the data once the letters have been sent? What is the appeals procedure? Come on Echo, get into this and do some real investigate journalism, let's have comments from the police, ACPO and the Police Federation? Lets see some journo energy as with the FSB reporting. Tictock
  • Score: 12

3:41pm Wed 19 Mar 14

skydriver says...

Clearly these hand held machines are not that accurate what about the shakey hand syndrome , so not a true reading .
This I thought was a country who had a police force who did this work ,or am I mistaken.
Clearly these hand held machines are not that accurate what about the shakey hand syndrome , so not a true reading . This I thought was a country who had a police force who did this work ,or am I mistaken. skydriver
  • Score: 4

4:40pm Wed 19 Mar 14

whataboutthat says...

Vigilante far*suckers
Vigilante far*suckers whataboutthat
  • Score: 3

4:45pm Wed 19 Mar 14

ShuttleX says...

If a vehicle is observed breaking the speed limit three times police may take further action.

What action can the Police take? None of these readings can be used in a Court, so the letters sent out are not worth the cost of postage. I have to agree with other posters, this is just a bunch of do gooders who think they are better then others. Once the public catch on who they are, they will just carry on speeding, sticking two fingers up to the old biddies on the side of the road.

If roads are well known for speeders, then get the Police down there. At least they can do something.
If a vehicle is observed breaking the speed limit three times police may take further action. What action can the Police take? None of these readings can be used in a Court, so the letters sent out are not worth the cost of postage. I have to agree with other posters, this is just a bunch of do gooders who think they are better then others. Once the public catch on who they are, they will just carry on speeding, sticking two fingers up to the old biddies on the side of the road. If roads are well known for speeders, then get the Police down there. At least they can do something. ShuttleX
  • Score: 11

7:29pm Wed 19 Mar 14

Phixer says...

Amazing how commenters are openly condoning breaking the law. And they must think that policemen and women come from outer space; they couldn't possibly be our neighbours.

In a perfect world, communities would self-regulate for their common preservation. In the western civilised -sic - world, we expect others to do it for us.
Amazing how commenters are openly condoning breaking the law. And they must think that policemen and women come from outer space; they couldn't possibly be our neighbours. In a perfect world, communities would self-regulate for their common preservation. In the western civilised -sic - world, we expect others to do it for us. Phixer
  • Score: -3

8:06pm Wed 19 Mar 14

kalebmoledirt says...

Phixer wrote:
Amazing how commenters are openly condoning breaking the law. And they must think that policemen and women come from outer space; they couldn't possibly be our neighbours.

In a perfect world, communities would self-regulate for their common preservation. In the western civilised -sic - world, we expect others to do it for us.
There are such communities .policed by thugs in hoodies with pit bulls
[quote][p][bold]Phixer[/bold] wrote: Amazing how commenters are openly condoning breaking the law. And they must think that policemen and women come from outer space; they couldn't possibly be our neighbours. In a perfect world, communities would self-regulate for their common preservation. In the western civilised -sic - world, we expect others to do it for us.[/p][/quote]There are such communities .policed by thugs in hoodies with pit bulls kalebmoledirt
  • Score: 3

8:14pm Wed 19 Mar 14

Chriswood says...

Great idea. Potential life-savers.
Great idea. Potential life-savers. Chriswood
  • Score: -5

9:41pm Wed 19 Mar 14

tbpoole says...

muscliffman wrote:
We have publicly paid professionals employed to do this sort of thing. It must take a particularly unpleasant and nasty type of person to do this to their fellow citizens - free of charge. They should all be thoroughly ashamed of themselves, the old Soviet KGB however would be delighted!
Frightened of getting caught then matey?
[quote][p][bold]muscliffman[/bold] wrote: We have publicly paid professionals employed to do this sort of thing. It must take a particularly unpleasant and nasty type of person to do this to their fellow citizens - free of charge. They should all be thoroughly ashamed of themselves, the old Soviet KGB however would be delighted![/p][/quote]Frightened of getting caught then matey? tbpoole
  • Score: -4

10:24pm Wed 19 Mar 14

muscliffman says...

tbpoole wrote:
muscliffman wrote:
We have publicly paid professionals employed to do this sort of thing. It must take a particularly unpleasant and nasty type of person to do this to their fellow citizens - free of charge. They should all be thoroughly ashamed of themselves, the old Soviet KGB however would be delighted!
Frightened of getting caught then matey?
No not at all, because I do my best not to speed - thank you.

Anyway it's NOT about what these 'vigilantes' are doing, it is the extremely unpleasant and sinister way in which these unpaid folk are becoming involved in something best left to our professional law enforcers. For we all risk sliding down a very slippery slope by encouraging this sort of 'Orwellian' society activity. The old chestnut 'if you do nothing wrong you have nothing to fear' usually goes straight out the window when you have this type of pubic amateur monitoring, so for many of us it is the manner that is NOT acceptable not the ambition.
[quote][p][bold]tbpoole[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]muscliffman[/bold] wrote: We have publicly paid professionals employed to do this sort of thing. It must take a particularly unpleasant and nasty type of person to do this to their fellow citizens - free of charge. They should all be thoroughly ashamed of themselves, the old Soviet KGB however would be delighted![/p][/quote]Frightened of getting caught then matey?[/p][/quote]No not at all, because I do my best not to speed - thank you. Anyway it's NOT about what these 'vigilantes' are doing, it is the extremely unpleasant and sinister way in which these unpaid folk are becoming involved in something best left to our professional law enforcers. For we all risk sliding down a very slippery slope by encouraging this sort of 'Orwellian' society activity. The old chestnut 'if you do nothing wrong you have nothing to fear' usually goes straight out the window when you have this type of pubic amateur monitoring, so for many of us it is the manner that is NOT acceptable not the ambition. muscliffman
  • Score: 3

6:19am Thu 20 Mar 14

ShuttleX says...

tbpoole wrote:
muscliffman wrote:
We have publicly paid professionals employed to do this sort of thing. It must take a particularly unpleasant and nasty type of person to do this to their fellow citizens - free of charge. They should all be thoroughly ashamed of themselves, the old Soviet KGB however would be delighted!
Frightened of getting caught then matey?
tbpoole wrote:- Frightened of getting caught then matey?

The point is tbpoole, the speeders are not being caught. They are getting reported by members of the public. As no conviction can be handed out based on what these people say to the police, they are next to useless. If you don't believe me, try phoning 101 next time you see a speeder, and see how much interest that generates by the police. A cardboard cutout of a police officer would have more effect in slowing people down.
[quote][p][bold]tbpoole[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]muscliffman[/bold] wrote: We have publicly paid professionals employed to do this sort of thing. It must take a particularly unpleasant and nasty type of person to do this to their fellow citizens - free of charge. They should all be thoroughly ashamed of themselves, the old Soviet KGB however would be delighted![/p][/quote]Frightened of getting caught then matey?[/p][/quote]tbpoole wrote:- Frightened of getting caught then matey? The point is tbpoole, the speeders are not being caught. They are getting reported by members of the public. As no conviction can be handed out based on what these people say to the police, they are next to useless. If you don't believe me, try phoning 101 next time you see a speeder, and see how much interest that generates by the police. A cardboard cutout of a police officer would have more effect in slowing people down. ShuttleX
  • Score: 0

7:49am Thu 20 Mar 14

tbpoole says...

ShuttleX wrote:
tbpoole wrote:
muscliffman wrote:
We have publicly paid professionals employed to do this sort of thing. It must take a particularly unpleasant and nasty type of person to do this to their fellow citizens - free of charge. They should all be thoroughly ashamed of themselves, the old Soviet KGB however would be delighted!
Frightened of getting caught then matey?
tbpoole wrote:- Frightened of getting caught then matey?

The point is tbpoole, the speeders are not being caught. They are getting reported by members of the public. As no conviction can be handed out based on what these people say to the police, they are next to useless. If you don't believe me, try phoning 101 next time you see a speeder, and see how much interest that generates by the police. A cardboard cutout of a police officer would have more effect in slowing people down.
But they will be if they keep speeding at the same spot. Read the article again.
[quote][p][bold]ShuttleX[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tbpoole[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]muscliffman[/bold] wrote: We have publicly paid professionals employed to do this sort of thing. It must take a particularly unpleasant and nasty type of person to do this to their fellow citizens - free of charge. They should all be thoroughly ashamed of themselves, the old Soviet KGB however would be delighted![/p][/quote]Frightened of getting caught then matey?[/p][/quote]tbpoole wrote:- Frightened of getting caught then matey? The point is tbpoole, the speeders are not being caught. They are getting reported by members of the public. As no conviction can be handed out based on what these people say to the police, they are next to useless. If you don't believe me, try phoning 101 next time you see a speeder, and see how much interest that generates by the police. A cardboard cutout of a police officer would have more effect in slowing people down.[/p][/quote]But they will be if they keep speeding at the same spot. Read the article again. tbpoole
  • Score: 0

8:47am Thu 20 Mar 14

Hessenford says...

What will come next, drunk drivers let off 3 times before being prosecuted.
What will come next, drunk drivers let off 3 times before being prosecuted. Hessenford
  • Score: 0

4:58pm Thu 20 Mar 14

ShuttleX says...

tbpoole wrote:
ShuttleX wrote:
tbpoole wrote:
muscliffman wrote:
We have publicly paid professionals employed to do this sort of thing. It must take a particularly unpleasant and nasty type of person to do this to their fellow citizens - free of charge. They should all be thoroughly ashamed of themselves, the old Soviet KGB however would be delighted!
Frightened of getting caught then matey?
tbpoole wrote:- Frightened of getting caught then matey?

The point is tbpoole, the speeders are not being caught. They are getting reported by members of the public. As no conviction can be handed out based on what these people say to the police, they are next to useless. If you don't believe me, try phoning 101 next time you see a speeder, and see how much interest that generates by the police. A cardboard cutout of a police officer would have more effect in slowing people down.
But they will be if they keep speeding at the same spot. Read the article again.
I did read the article. The point I am making is no matter how many times these people spot speeders, their "evidence" is worthless. Under the law, the Police can not prosecute any driver for what a member of the public has seen. So a speeder can go past them 20 times a day, but until a Police officer, or camera car etc, actually catches them, then they can get away with it. The letters the Police are sending out are only a scare tactic. Say you get a Court Summons for speeding 5 times in the same spot. the first thing you are going to ask the CPS is "Prove it". Just what are the CPS going to say to that. "Well M'lud. We have these old biddies with time on their hands who say they saw this bloke doing it" I'm not condoning speeding, but if you want to stop it, then get warranted Police Officers out doing the checking.
[quote][p][bold]tbpoole[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ShuttleX[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tbpoole[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]muscliffman[/bold] wrote: We have publicly paid professionals employed to do this sort of thing. It must take a particularly unpleasant and nasty type of person to do this to their fellow citizens - free of charge. They should all be thoroughly ashamed of themselves, the old Soviet KGB however would be delighted![/p][/quote]Frightened of getting caught then matey?[/p][/quote]tbpoole wrote:- Frightened of getting caught then matey? The point is tbpoole, the speeders are not being caught. They are getting reported by members of the public. As no conviction can be handed out based on what these people say to the police, they are next to useless. If you don't believe me, try phoning 101 next time you see a speeder, and see how much interest that generates by the police. A cardboard cutout of a police officer would have more effect in slowing people down.[/p][/quote]But they will be if they keep speeding at the same spot. Read the article again.[/p][/quote]I did read the article. The point I am making is no matter how many times these people spot speeders, their "evidence" is worthless. Under the law, the Police can not prosecute any driver for what a member of the public has seen. So a speeder can go past them 20 times a day, but until a Police officer, or camera car etc, actually catches them, then they can get away with it. The letters the Police are sending out are only a scare tactic. Say you get a Court Summons for speeding 5 times in the same spot. the first thing you are going to ask the CPS is "Prove it". Just what are the CPS going to say to that. "Well M'lud. We have these old biddies with time on their hands who say they saw this bloke doing it" I'm not condoning speeding, but if you want to stop it, then get warranted Police Officers out doing the checking. ShuttleX
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