Senior councillor resigns from Tory group on Poole council after dispute with leader

Senior councillor resigns from Tory group on Poole council after dispute with leader

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Councillor Tony Woodcock

Council leader Elaine Atkinson

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A LEADING Conservative councillor has quit the party’s group on Poole council after disagreements with the leader.

The resignation of Councillor Tony Woodcock, a former member of the council’s cabinet, leaves the Tories with only one more seat than the Liberal Democrats on the hung council.

It is understood he quit over disagreements with council leader Cllr Elaine Atkinson.

Cllr Woodcock represents Parkstone ward and has served as cabinet member for education and children’s services. He sits on several key council committees, including the planning committee. He is a retired educational administrator who founded a primary school in Brussels.

He confirmed he had resigned from the Tory group but he said he would set out his reasons in a statement to be issued later.

Fellow Conservative Cllr Judy Butt was recently sacked from the council’s cabinet for opposing plans for a transit site for gypsies and travellers at Creekmoor.

Cllr Butt said: “I’m so sad. Tony and I have been friends for many years and were elected on the same day in May 1999.

“Tony is a highly intelligent, much respected member of the Conservative group, respected for his knowledge and his ability to challenge where necessary.

“He’s a massive loss to the conservative group but he’s a very reasonable guy and I hope we will be able to find ways of working with him in the future.”

Cllr Woodcock’s split from the Conservatives leaves his party with 19 seats, while the Liberal Democrats have 18 and Poole People Party four.

It is not known whether he will join another group.

The council’s leader could not be reached for comment at the weekend.

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8:15am Mon 17 Mar 14

Carolyn43 says...

Oh dear, the Black Queen's losing her power. Only needs a couple more. Hope Tony Woodcock goes independent. Time politics was taken out of local government.
Oh dear, the Black Queen's losing her power. Only needs a couple more. Hope Tony Woodcock goes independent. Time politics was taken out of local government. Carolyn43
  • Score: 30

8:56am Mon 17 Mar 14

skydriver says...

Carolyn43 wrote:
Oh dear, the Black Queen's losing her power. Only needs a couple more. Hope Tony Woodcock goes independent. Time politics was taken out of local government.
Yes quite agree with you, although I don't live in Bournemouth , I support your views. Here in Christchurch we have the same problems with the councillors and it's leader. All the councillors throughout our county have become too vocal, not listening to the folk who put them there. The quicker they are all removed and a fresh start takes place the better for all, and yes take politics out of local government.
[quote][p][bold]Carolyn43[/bold] wrote: Oh dear, the Black Queen's losing her power. Only needs a couple more. Hope Tony Woodcock goes independent. Time politics was taken out of local government.[/p][/quote]Yes quite agree with you, although I don't live in Bournemouth , I support your views. Here in Christchurch we have the same problems with the councillors and it's leader. All the councillors throughout our county have become too vocal, not listening to the folk who put them there. The quicker they are all removed and a fresh start takes place the better for all, and yes take politics out of local government. skydriver
  • Score: 20

9:04am Mon 17 Mar 14

John T says...

So, Parkstone's Councillor, who lives in Southbourne, has resigned.

' It is not known whether he will join another group.'
He is not wanted by the Liberal Democrats, and living in Southbourne, he could hardly claim to be one of Poole People.
Perhaps, Tony, you could jump on the Noddy Train and Go East, Old Man!
So, Parkstone's Councillor, who lives in Southbourne, has resigned. ' It is not known whether he will join another group.' He is not wanted by the Liberal Democrats, and living in Southbourne, he could hardly claim to be one of Poole People. Perhaps, Tony, you could jump on the Noddy Train and Go East, Old Man! John T
  • Score: -2

9:14am Mon 17 Mar 14

BmthNewshound says...

Councillors on Bournemouth Council should take a leaf out of Tony Woodcocks book. A growing number of Bournemouth Tory Councillors disagree with John Beesleys autocractic, almost dictatorial, leadership of the Council but only one has had the courage to break ranks to leave the Tory group
Councillors on Bournemouth Council should take a leaf out of Tony Woodcocks book. A growing number of Bournemouth Tory Councillors disagree with John Beesleys autocractic, almost dictatorial, leadership of the Council but only one has had the courage to break ranks to leave the Tory group BmthNewshound
  • Score: 12

9:20am Mon 17 Mar 14

moleman says...

Time for a vote of "no confidence" in the leader of Poole Council.
Time for a vote of "no confidence" in the leader of Poole Council. moleman
  • Score: 25

9:31am Mon 17 Mar 14

sea poole says...

John T - I don't care where he lives. He's been a really active Cllr for many years and gives freely of his time to meet residents, talk with groups and has, where necessary, voted with his conscience. How does living in P'stone make that any different? It's what the guy does- NOT where he lives...but your sarcasm would cloud any judgment of that, wouldn't it?
John T - I don't care where he lives. He's been a really active Cllr for many years and gives freely of his time to meet residents, talk with groups and has, where necessary, voted with his conscience. How does living in P'stone make that any different? It's what the guy does- NOT where he lives...but your sarcasm would cloud any judgment of that, wouldn't it? sea poole
  • Score: 4

9:38am Mon 17 Mar 14

Tictock says...

Something rank and desperate seems to be bubbling down Civic Centre, and it ain't gas works in the road!
Something rank and desperate seems to be bubbling down Civic Centre, and it ain't gas works in the road! Tictock
  • Score: 16

9:46am Mon 17 Mar 14

Jo__Go says...

Atkinson the Dud ... looking increasingly lonely and desperate.
Time for a shake-up!
Atkinson the Dud ... looking increasingly lonely and desperate. Time for a shake-up! Jo__Go
  • Score: 18

9:49am Mon 17 Mar 14

John T says...

sea poole wrote:
John T - I don't care where he lives. He's been a really active Cllr for many years and gives freely of his time to meet residents, talk with groups and has, where necessary, voted with his conscience. How does living in P'stone make that any different? It's what the guy does- NOT where he lives...but your sarcasm would cloud any judgment of that, wouldn't it?
sea poole
What a shame for you that Judy Butt lives in Creekmoor and not Baiter,eh?...Then you could also have a traveller addressing your local concerns!
But then your personal interest might cloud any judgment of that, mightn't it?
[quote][p][bold]sea poole[/bold] wrote: John T - I don't care where he lives. He's been a really active Cllr for many years and gives freely of his time to meet residents, talk with groups and has, where necessary, voted with his conscience. How does living in P'stone make that any different? It's what the guy does- NOT where he lives...but your sarcasm would cloud any judgment of that, wouldn't it?[/p][/quote]sea poole What a shame for you that Judy Butt lives in Creekmoor and not Baiter,eh?...Then you could also have a traveller addressing your local concerns! But then your personal interest might cloud any judgment of that, mightn't it? John T
  • Score: -2

10:10am Mon 17 Mar 14

Gordon Cann says...

Lets be realistic- unless Councils have an elected mayor- and I am not suggesting that is my preference, then Councils like we have today in most parts of the country, including Bournemouth and Poole,. will continue and party rule is inevitable; and probably desirable; at least it enables the voter to now where responsibility lies.

My objection is the lack of independence shown by Councillors within the present system; that I believe could be overcome if Councillors were limited to two terms of office; it would certainly act to bring in younger fresh talent, and help for more open debate.


There might then even be a case fro restoring somethIng like the old Alderman where a few senior Councillors were elected for a further tern, but that is a separate argument
Lets be realistic- unless Councils have an elected mayor- and I am not suggesting that is my preference, then Councils like we have today in most parts of the country, including Bournemouth and Poole,. will continue and party rule is inevitable; and probably desirable; at least it enables the voter to now where responsibility lies. My objection is the lack of independence shown by Councillors within the present system; that I believe could be overcome if Councillors were limited to two terms of office; it would certainly act to bring in younger fresh talent, and help for more open debate. There might then even be a case fro restoring somethIng like the old Alderman where a few senior Councillors were elected for a further tern, but that is a separate argument Gordon Cann
  • Score: 8

10:12am Mon 17 Mar 14

Gordon Cann says...

'voter to know' -not now
'voter to know' -not now Gordon Cann
  • Score: -1

10:28am Mon 17 Mar 14

DorsetFerret says...

Surely it's time for a vote of 'No Confidence' in the towns leadership. Quite amazing how Cllr Elaine Atkinson can do a disappearance act when the heat is on!
Surely it's time for a vote of 'No Confidence' in the towns leadership. Quite amazing how Cllr Elaine Atkinson can do a disappearance act when the heat is on! DorsetFerret
  • Score: 15

10:59am Mon 17 Mar 14

sea poole says...

John T- I don't care where any Cllr lives- as long as they represent the views and concerns of residents, but it appears you have a total fixation about cllrs 'squatting' in the ward they represent. Guess just because Cllr Woodcock isn't a socialist you haven't any time for him. Personal interest isn't quite the same as personal involvement or even interest...or maybe you're not aware of the difference
John T- I don't care where any Cllr lives- as long as they represent the views and concerns of residents, but it appears you have a total fixation about cllrs 'squatting' in the ward they represent. Guess just because Cllr Woodcock isn't a socialist you haven't any time for him. Personal interest isn't quite the same as personal involvement or even interest...or maybe you're not aware of the difference sea poole
  • Score: 3

11:05am Mon 17 Mar 14

Marty Caine UKIP says...

Carolyn43 wrote:
Oh dear, the Black Queen's losing her power. Only needs a couple more. Hope Tony Woodcock goes independent. Time politics was taken out of local government.
Politics is politics be it at a national or a local level and independent councillors are about as much use as independent MPs, when it comes to crucial decision making they will always get treated like the kid at the back of the class. Sometimes you do need the party weight behind you to get things done and changes made at central government level. The real problem arises when party rule stops a local councillor doing what he/she believes is best for those who elected them and which is why UKIP has no party whip for its councillors.

Tony Woodcock has certainly worked hard for his Parkstone constituents over the past 15 years so it will be interesting to see what has made him make this decision, hopefully Cllr Atkinson and a few others are about to find out the first rule of physics, for every action there is an opposed reaction.
[quote][p][bold]Carolyn43[/bold] wrote: Oh dear, the Black Queen's losing her power. Only needs a couple more. Hope Tony Woodcock goes independent. Time politics was taken out of local government.[/p][/quote]Politics is politics be it at a national or a local level and independent councillors are about as much use as independent MPs, when it comes to crucial decision making they will always get treated like the kid at the back of the class. Sometimes you do need the party weight behind you to get things done and changes made at central government level. The real problem arises when party rule stops a local councillor doing what he/she believes is best for those who elected them and which is why UKIP has no party whip for its councillors. Tony Woodcock has certainly worked hard for his Parkstone constituents over the past 15 years so it will be interesting to see what has made him make this decision, hopefully Cllr Atkinson and a few others are about to find out the first rule of physics, for every action there is an opposed reaction. Marty Caine UKIP
  • Score: 6

11:36am Mon 17 Mar 14

Carolyn43 says...

Marty Caine UKIP wrote:
Carolyn43 wrote:
Oh dear, the Black Queen's losing her power. Only needs a couple more. Hope Tony Woodcock goes independent. Time politics was taken out of local government.
Politics is politics be it at a national or a local level and independent councillors are about as much use as independent MPs, when it comes to crucial decision making they will always get treated like the kid at the back of the class. Sometimes you do need the party weight behind you to get things done and changes made at central government level. The real problem arises when party rule stops a local councillor doing what he/she believes is best for those who elected them and which is why UKIP has no party whip for its councillors.

Tony Woodcock has certainly worked hard for his Parkstone constituents over the past 15 years so it will be interesting to see what has made him make this decision, hopefully Cllr Atkinson and a few others are about to find out the first rule of physics, for every action there is an opposed reaction.
The first rule of physics is "For every action there is an EQUAL AND OPPOSITE (not opposed) reaction". - retired teacher including physics.
[quote][p][bold]Marty Caine UKIP[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Carolyn43[/bold] wrote: Oh dear, the Black Queen's losing her power. Only needs a couple more. Hope Tony Woodcock goes independent. Time politics was taken out of local government.[/p][/quote]Politics is politics be it at a national or a local level and independent councillors are about as much use as independent MPs, when it comes to crucial decision making they will always get treated like the kid at the back of the class. Sometimes you do need the party weight behind you to get things done and changes made at central government level. The real problem arises when party rule stops a local councillor doing what he/she believes is best for those who elected them and which is why UKIP has no party whip for its councillors. Tony Woodcock has certainly worked hard for his Parkstone constituents over the past 15 years so it will be interesting to see what has made him make this decision, hopefully Cllr Atkinson and a few others are about to find out the first rule of physics, for every action there is an opposed reaction.[/p][/quote]The first rule of physics is "For every action there is an EQUAL AND OPPOSITE (not opposed) reaction". - retired teacher including physics. Carolyn43
  • Score: -2

11:57am Mon 17 Mar 14

Gordon Cann says...

Pigs might fly!!!

If UKIP were to win an outright majority at the next General Election would Prime Minister Farage insist on Cabinet collective responsibility? Would a three line whip be imposed on UKIP members of Parliament?

Perhaps as well that pigs cant fly!
Pigs might fly!!! If UKIP were to win an outright majority at the next General Election would Prime Minister Farage insist on Cabinet collective responsibility? Would a three line whip be imposed on UKIP members of Parliament? Perhaps as well that pigs cant fly! Gordon Cann
  • Score: -1

12:32pm Mon 17 Mar 14

John T says...

Woodcock will be emigrating to UKIP, where he should find his natural home.

Editor's Note:
'The woodcock is largely nocturnal, spending most of its life under dense cover.'
Woodcock will be emigrating to UKIP, where he should find his natural home. Editor's Note: 'The woodcock is largely nocturnal, spending most of its life under dense cover.' John T
  • Score: -1

12:35pm Mon 17 Mar 14

Jeff in Parkstone says...

I know that Tony W put in a huge amount of work helping one family in Poole some years ago who were the victim of not just violant anti-social behaviour but as bad if not far worse massive failure by council authorities and police to provide adequate protection and security.

He is certainly if nothing an independent minded councillor - in that particular case taking on a huge amount of in-house beurocracy in council and police in his efforts to speak up for and help the family.

As for where any Cllr lives I personally think this is highly relevant. I don't doubt that any Cllr can make worth-while contributions even if they do not live in the borough they represent. But then how much more so when Cllrs live in the borough and better still the ward they represent then using local facilities and schools in their daily lives.

I think that is critically important. No Cllr knows what is going on in a borough let alone in "their ward" unless they are in contact weekly if not daily with all that is going on. In the end the whole matter to my mind gives authenticity as in from a Cllr "I live in your ward I know the problem first hand I am here in the ward to take a lead"

None-the-less as Cllr Butt says Tony W brings a great deal of experience to bear in his work not least from his life-time education and business experience. I personally throughly disgree with him on the off-shore wind farm and climate warming issues but none-the-less a fair minded Cllr prepared to stick up for anyone he think is getting a rough deal from council ....

Jeff Williams
I know that Tony W put in a huge amount of work helping one family in Poole some years ago who were the victim of not just violant anti-social behaviour but as bad if not far worse massive failure by council authorities and police to provide adequate protection and security. He is certainly if nothing an independent minded councillor - in that particular case taking on a huge amount of in-house beurocracy in council and police in his efforts to speak up for and help the family. As for where any Cllr lives I personally think this is highly relevant. I don't doubt that any Cllr can make worth-while contributions even if they do not live in the borough they represent. But then how much more so when Cllrs live in the borough and better still the ward they represent then using local facilities and schools in their daily lives. I think that is critically important. No Cllr knows what is going on in a borough let alone in "their ward" unless they are in contact weekly if not daily with all that is going on. In the end the whole matter to my mind gives authenticity as in from a Cllr "I live in your ward I know the problem first hand I am here in the ward to take a lead" None-the-less as Cllr Butt says Tony W brings a great deal of experience to bear in his work not least from his life-time education and business experience. I personally throughly disgree with him on the off-shore wind farm and climate warming issues but none-the-less a fair minded Cllr prepared to stick up for anyone he think is getting a rough deal from council .... Jeff Williams Jeff in Parkstone
  • Score: 6

12:41pm Mon 17 Mar 14

Major Futtock says...

Well, Well, Well. Here we go again.
It looks as though The Poole Dictator~ OOPS sorry~Council leader has scored yet another own goal. Is she QUITE determined to rid Poole Council of ALL the decent councillors? Stribly had better watch her back or she be the next one heading for 'Madame Guillotine'!
I really do think a vote of no confidence is called for immediately. Unless of course she does the decent thing and takes the 'silver bullet'.
But if she hasn't even got the guts to be available for comment over TW's departure, the the Pig Squadron will fly over the Poole 'Kremlin' before she does the honourable thing and falls on her sword.
Disgusted of Dorset!
Well, Well, Well. Here we go again. It looks as though The Poole Dictator~ OOPS sorry~Council leader has scored yet another own goal. Is she QUITE determined to rid Poole Council of ALL the decent councillors? Stribly had better watch her back or she be the next one heading for 'Madame Guillotine'! I really do think a vote of no confidence is called for immediately. Unless of course she does the decent thing and takes the 'silver bullet'. But if she hasn't even got the guts to be available for comment over TW's departure, the the Pig Squadron will fly over the Poole 'Kremlin' before she does the honourable thing and falls on her sword. Disgusted of Dorset! Major Futtock
  • Score: 4

4:01pm Mon 17 Mar 14

speedy231278 says...

Carolyn43 wrote:
Marty Caine UKIP wrote:
Carolyn43 wrote:
Oh dear, the Black Queen's losing her power. Only needs a couple more. Hope Tony Woodcock goes independent. Time politics was taken out of local government.
Politics is politics be it at a national or a local level and independent councillors are about as much use as independent MPs, when it comes to crucial decision making they will always get treated like the kid at the back of the class. Sometimes you do need the party weight behind you to get things done and changes made at central government level. The real problem arises when party rule stops a local councillor doing what he/she believes is best for those who elected them and which is why UKIP has no party whip for its councillors.

Tony Woodcock has certainly worked hard for his Parkstone constituents over the past 15 years so it will be interesting to see what has made him make this decision, hopefully Cllr Atkinson and a few others are about to find out the first rule of physics, for every action there is an opposed reaction.
The first rule of physics is "For every action there is an EQUAL AND OPPOSITE (not opposed) reaction". - retired teacher including physics.
That's actually Newton's third law of motion.....
[quote][p][bold]Carolyn43[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Marty Caine UKIP[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Carolyn43[/bold] wrote: Oh dear, the Black Queen's losing her power. Only needs a couple more. Hope Tony Woodcock goes independent. Time politics was taken out of local government.[/p][/quote]Politics is politics be it at a national or a local level and independent councillors are about as much use as independent MPs, when it comes to crucial decision making they will always get treated like the kid at the back of the class. Sometimes you do need the party weight behind you to get things done and changes made at central government level. The real problem arises when party rule stops a local councillor doing what he/she believes is best for those who elected them and which is why UKIP has no party whip for its councillors. Tony Woodcock has certainly worked hard for his Parkstone constituents over the past 15 years so it will be interesting to see what has made him make this decision, hopefully Cllr Atkinson and a few others are about to find out the first rule of physics, for every action there is an opposed reaction.[/p][/quote]The first rule of physics is "For every action there is an EQUAL AND OPPOSITE (not opposed) reaction". - retired teacher including physics.[/p][/quote]That's actually Newton's third law of motion..... speedy231278
  • Score: 1

6:04pm Mon 17 Mar 14

Mad Karew says...

Who can blame the man, abandoning a sTinking ship!!! What ever his reasons be they polictical or otherwise, the abject failure of Atkinson to maintain her group's membership is pathetic. That's three of her group who have left in just over 2 and a half years, all trashed by her after they left.
She has to go, come on Atkinson do the first fair honourable thing you have done for the people of Poole and resign immediately!
The Temporary Stopping Place planning applications which ever way they go will only exacerbate your gross mismanagement of people, go now or face yet another disgrace on Thursday, how much more pain do you think it is fair to inflict on what is left of your group and Poole residents?
How much longer can you claim the huge allowance you are paid for hiding from the public when you are needed to deal with yet another crisis.
If there was a referendum on you going or staying no guesses for which way that would go.
Come on Judy Butt step up to the mark and lead us all out of this mess, ppplllllllleeeeeeeee
eeaaaaaaaaaaaassssss
sseeeeeeee!!!
Who can blame the man, abandoning a sTinking ship!!! What ever his reasons be they polictical or otherwise, the abject failure of Atkinson to maintain her group's membership is pathetic. That's three of her group who have left in just over 2 and a half years, all trashed by her after they left. She has to go, come on Atkinson do the first fair honourable thing you have done for the people of Poole and resign immediately! The Temporary Stopping Place planning applications which ever way they go will only exacerbate your gross mismanagement of people, go now or face yet another disgrace on Thursday, how much more pain do you think it is fair to inflict on what is left of your group and Poole residents? How much longer can you claim the huge allowance you are paid for hiding from the public when you are needed to deal with yet another crisis. If there was a referendum on you going or staying no guesses for which way that would go. Come on Judy Butt step up to the mark and lead us all out of this mess, ppplllllllleeeeeeeee eeaaaaaaaaaaaassssss sseeeeeeee!!! Mad Karew
  • Score: -1

6:34pm Mon 17 Mar 14

Carolyn43 says...

speedy231278 wrote:
Carolyn43 wrote:
Marty Caine UKIP wrote:
Carolyn43 wrote:
Oh dear, the Black Queen's losing her power. Only needs a couple more. Hope Tony Woodcock goes independent. Time politics was taken out of local government.
Politics is politics be it at a national or a local level and independent councillors are about as much use as independent MPs, when it comes to crucial decision making they will always get treated like the kid at the back of the class. Sometimes you do need the party weight behind you to get things done and changes made at central government level. The real problem arises when party rule stops a local councillor doing what he/she believes is best for those who elected them and which is why UKIP has no party whip for its councillors.

Tony Woodcock has certainly worked hard for his Parkstone constituents over the past 15 years so it will be interesting to see what has made him make this decision, hopefully Cllr Atkinson and a few others are about to find out the first rule of physics, for every action there is an opposed reaction.
The first rule of physics is "For every action there is an EQUAL AND OPPOSITE (not opposed) reaction". - retired teacher including physics.
That's actually Newton's third law of motion.....
Yes, you're quite right. I was going to check, but was so in incensed that Marty Caine tried to turn something from a highly respected person into a political point by changing the wording that I just typed and hit "post comment".
[quote][p][bold]speedy231278[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Carolyn43[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Marty Caine UKIP[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Carolyn43[/bold] wrote: Oh dear, the Black Queen's losing her power. Only needs a couple more. Hope Tony Woodcock goes independent. Time politics was taken out of local government.[/p][/quote]Politics is politics be it at a national or a local level and independent councillors are about as much use as independent MPs, when it comes to crucial decision making they will always get treated like the kid at the back of the class. Sometimes you do need the party weight behind you to get things done and changes made at central government level. The real problem arises when party rule stops a local councillor doing what he/she believes is best for those who elected them and which is why UKIP has no party whip for its councillors. Tony Woodcock has certainly worked hard for his Parkstone constituents over the past 15 years so it will be interesting to see what has made him make this decision, hopefully Cllr Atkinson and a few others are about to find out the first rule of physics, for every action there is an opposed reaction.[/p][/quote]The first rule of physics is "For every action there is an EQUAL AND OPPOSITE (not opposed) reaction". - retired teacher including physics.[/p][/quote]That's actually Newton's third law of motion.....[/p][/quote]Yes, you're quite right. I was going to check, but was so in incensed that Marty Caine tried to turn something from a highly respected person into a political point by changing the wording that I just typed and hit "post comment". Carolyn43
  • Score: -1

8:49am Tue 18 Mar 14

Hotoffthepress says...

This man is of the highest integrity, a true gutsy honest player who always seeks a fair playing field, he fights and battles for justice in a Council that is dishonest, corrupt and hides its wrong-doing and denigrates, trashes and attempts to crush those who challenge them. It is very hard to keep battling and fighting those who are often so recklessly arrogant and unreasonable and I expect that Councillor Woodcock in the end realised he was flogging a dead horse.
This man is of the highest integrity, a true gutsy honest player who always seeks a fair playing field, he fights and battles for justice in a Council that is dishonest, corrupt and hides its wrong-doing and denigrates, trashes and attempts to crush those who challenge them. It is very hard to keep battling and fighting those who are often so recklessly arrogant and unreasonable and I expect that Councillor Woodcock in the end realised he was flogging a dead horse. Hotoffthepress
  • Score: -1

9:07am Tue 18 Mar 14

mimi55 says...

Well done Cllr Woodcock. Good to know there are still people with
principles.
Well done Cllr Woodcock. Good to know there are still people with principles. mimi55
  • Score: -2

2:42pm Tue 18 Mar 14

Marty Caine UKIP says...

Carolyn43 wrote:
Marty Caine UKIP wrote:
Carolyn43 wrote:
Oh dear, the Black Queen's losing her power. Only needs a couple more. Hope Tony Woodcock goes independent. Time politics was taken out of local government.
Politics is politics be it at a national or a local level and independent councillors are about as much use as independent MPs, when it comes to crucial decision making they will always get treated like the kid at the back of the class. Sometimes you do need the party weight behind you to get things done and changes made at central government level. The real problem arises when party rule stops a local councillor doing what he/she believes is best for those who elected them and which is why UKIP has no party whip for its councillors.

Tony Woodcock has certainly worked hard for his Parkstone constituents over the past 15 years so it will be interesting to see what has made him make this decision, hopefully Cllr Atkinson and a few others are about to find out the first rule of physics, for every action there is an opposed reaction.
The first rule of physics is "For every action there is an EQUAL AND OPPOSITE (not opposed) reaction". - retired teacher including physics.
You are correct, opposed was the wrong word, in the physics book that I was taught from the word was in fact opposing, my bad, but thanks for the lesson and the smile it has brought to my face seeing that you completely missed the point I was making anyway.
[quote][p][bold]Carolyn43[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Marty Caine UKIP[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Carolyn43[/bold] wrote: Oh dear, the Black Queen's losing her power. Only needs a couple more. Hope Tony Woodcock goes independent. Time politics was taken out of local government.[/p][/quote]Politics is politics be it at a national or a local level and independent councillors are about as much use as independent MPs, when it comes to crucial decision making they will always get treated like the kid at the back of the class. Sometimes you do need the party weight behind you to get things done and changes made at central government level. The real problem arises when party rule stops a local councillor doing what he/she believes is best for those who elected them and which is why UKIP has no party whip for its councillors. Tony Woodcock has certainly worked hard for his Parkstone constituents over the past 15 years so it will be interesting to see what has made him make this decision, hopefully Cllr Atkinson and a few others are about to find out the first rule of physics, for every action there is an opposed reaction.[/p][/quote]The first rule of physics is "For every action there is an EQUAL AND OPPOSITE (not opposed) reaction". - retired teacher including physics.[/p][/quote]You are correct, opposed was the wrong word, in the physics book that I was taught from the word was in fact opposing, my bad, but thanks for the lesson and the smile it has brought to my face seeing that you completely missed the point I was making anyway. Marty Caine UKIP
  • Score: 0

1:31am Thu 20 Mar 14

Son of Bad Rabbit says...

Tony Woodcock thinks principles is a disgustingly PC way of talking about Headmasters or at the very best, a shop. He'll be joining UKIP, he'll find the name easier to spell...
Tony Woodcock thinks principles is a disgustingly PC way of talking about Headmasters or at the very best, a shop. He'll be joining UKIP, he'll find the name easier to spell... Son of Bad Rabbit
  • Score: -1

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