New food waste bins end up at landfill after Bournemouth council staff throw them away by accident

COLLECTED: Pictured here with two of the remaining food bins are Redhill residents Nikki Edwards, left, Gordon Harvey, back left, Bob Stocker and Karen Speeden

COLLECTED: Pictured here with two of the remaining food bins are Redhill residents Nikki Edwards, left, Gordon Harvey, back left, Bob Stocker and Karen Speeden

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BOURNEMOUTH’S much-publicised food waste collection service has got off to a bad start after more than 100 food bins were accidentally thrown away – by council staff.

Residents who collected their food scraps for recycling were stunned to see their brand new bins chucked on to refuse lorries and carted off to landfill.

The food waste collection service was launched this week following months of publicity by the council.

The £7.1million scheme was funded by central government to try and boost the amount of waste recycled in Bournemouth.

The problems occurred with food caddies that were clipped into residents’ ‘little bins,’ as advised by Bournemouth council.

In some cases refuse workers forgot to remove the caddies but simply emptied the ‘little bins’ into the truck – food caddies and all.

Karen Speeden, of Aberdare Road in Redhill, who saw her caddy being thrown away said: “It’s just so disappointing. You’re advised to do something, you follow the instructions exactly and yet somehow the bin gets chucked away.

“It is such an appalling waste of money.”

And neighbour Robert Stocker, who also lost his bin, said: “At first I thought I had done something wrong but I read the instructions again and realised it wasn’t my fault.

“It is very unfortunate.”

Many residents also complained to the council via Facebook and Twitter. Mick Sheavyn wrote on Facebook: “Put our food caddy in bin as instructed, now in the back of the bin lorry!”

Jessica Walton said: “My food caddy has gone missing after duly having been filled up and placed in the smaller bin – my neighbours have had the same... disappointed that such a good idea has gone rather wrong.”

And Ray Roberts said: “Put my food waste out yesterday nowhere to be seen now.

“I guess that food and container filling up a landfill site.”

Bournemouth council said yesterday it had received reports of 108 containers going missing – a tiny proportion of the 62,000 households included in the scheme. Each caddy costs £5 and the council has been sending rep-lacements to affected residents.

It is also attempting to recover any discarded caddies from the landfill site at Canford Magna.

‘A few teething problems’

Larry Austin, strategic operations manager at Bournemouth council, said: “There’s been a few teething problems which I suppose you would expect when rolling out a scheme of this magnitude.

“It’s an entirely new scheme for Bournemouth and for our collection crews. They have been involved in this scheme from the start but they now need to get in the habit of checking every single bin.

They collect 1,200 to 1,500 bins per day so it really is isolated problems.

“My message to residents is please bear with us. It’s really beneficial for residents, for the council and for the environment to support the food waste scheme.”

Anyone who needs a new container should call the council on 01202 451199.

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7:17am Sat 8 Mar 14

Huey says...

Proof if ever needed how rubbish council staff are.
Proof if ever needed how rubbish council staff are. Huey
  • Score: 15

7:19am Sat 8 Mar 14

BIGTONE says...

WASTERS........
WASTERS........ BIGTONE
  • Score: 17

7:20am Sat 8 Mar 14

apop3d says...

Classic photo, Echo. Crossed arms, stern faces, demo of how to put a smoked fish into a bin. That's a keeper.

“It is such an appalling waste of money.” Not just that some collection guys made a mistake and forgot to check inside the little bins for the food waste bins...that quote sums up the entire scheme. They may as well take my food bins away with the other trash, too. I'm never going to use them and don't want to store them. The expense and effort wasted on this entire concept make me shake my head.
Classic photo, Echo. Crossed arms, stern faces, demo of how to put a smoked fish into a bin. That's a keeper. “It is such an appalling waste of money.” Not just that some collection guys made a mistake and forgot to check inside the little bins for the food waste bins...that quote sums up the entire scheme. They may as well take my food bins away with the other trash, too. I'm never going to use them and don't want to store them. The expense and effort wasted on this entire concept make me shake my head. apop3d
  • Score: 36

7:37am Sat 8 Mar 14

afcb-mark says...

Only one out of the four with arms folded, that's more disappointing than the bins getting thrown in the lorry. These bins have now taken their place on a shelf in my shed, very useful for storing small tools in.
Only one out of the four with arms folded, that's more disappointing than the bins getting thrown in the lorry. These bins have now taken their place on a shelf in my shed, very useful for storing small tools in. afcb-mark
  • Score: 26

7:41am Sat 8 Mar 14

steve518 says...

apop3d wrote:
Classic photo, Echo. Crossed arms, stern faces, demo of how to put a smoked fish into a bin. That's a keeper.

“It is such an appalling waste of money.” Not just that some collection guys made a mistake and forgot to check inside the little bins for the food waste bins...that quote sums up the entire scheme. They may as well take my food bins away with the other trash, too. I'm never going to use them and don't want to store them. The expense and effort wasted on this entire concept make me shake my head.
I'm with you on that !
[quote][p][bold]apop3d[/bold] wrote: Classic photo, Echo. Crossed arms, stern faces, demo of how to put a smoked fish into a bin. That's a keeper. “It is such an appalling waste of money.” Not just that some collection guys made a mistake and forgot to check inside the little bins for the food waste bins...that quote sums up the entire scheme. They may as well take my food bins away with the other trash, too. I'm never going to use them and don't want to store them. The expense and effort wasted on this entire concept make me shake my head.[/p][/quote]I'm with you on that ! steve518
  • Score: 17

7:49am Sat 8 Mar 14

Lord Spring says...

“My message to residents is please bear with us. It’s really beneficial for residents, for the council and for the environment to support the food waste scheme.”

What a statement it the last thing to support such a scheme it should be to stop food waste.
“My message to residents is please bear with us. It’s really beneficial for residents, for the council and for the environment to support the food waste scheme.” What a statement it the last thing to support such a scheme it should be to stop food waste. Lord Spring
  • Score: 13

8:20am Sat 8 Mar 14

Carolyn43 says...

So have I got this right? Residents are given a small brown bin to clip inside their larger refuse bin. When the refuse is collected the bin men have to lift the lid on the larger bin to see if there's a brown bin clipped inside. If there is, unclip the brown bin and empty the contents into a separate collector, then empty the larger bin as usual, and put the brown bin back inside it and return it to the resident.
......
Who thought that up? Bet is wasn't bin men. How very inefficient. How much longer does that add to the refuse collection round?
......
Wouldn't it be better for residents to unclip the brown bin and put it beside the large bin for collection if it has food waste in it, or is that too simple?
So have I got this right? Residents are given a small brown bin to clip inside their larger refuse bin. When the refuse is collected the bin men have to lift the lid on the larger bin to see if there's a brown bin clipped inside. If there is, unclip the brown bin and empty the contents into a separate collector, then empty the larger bin as usual, and put the brown bin back inside it and return it to the resident. ...... Who thought that up? Bet is wasn't bin men. How very inefficient. How much longer does that add to the refuse collection round? ...... Wouldn't it be better for residents to unclip the brown bin and put it beside the large bin for collection if it has food waste in it, or is that too simple? Carolyn43
  • Score: 61

8:22am Sat 8 Mar 14

djd says...

Contrary to what some people say, it is a good idea if it cuts down on landfill and makes money for the borough.
My only moan is that the container is not big enough for a family of four adults and, I know some will say cut down on your food waste, but a chicken carcass, fruit & vegetables peelings and skins soon fill the bin without any actual wasted food.
We must have the better bin men in BH6 'cos we all had our bins emptied and returned correctly, so well done to the Monday men.
Contrary to what some people say, it is a good idea if it cuts down on landfill and makes money for the borough. My only moan is that the container is not big enough for a family of four adults and, I know some will say cut down on your food waste, but a chicken carcass, fruit & vegetables peelings and skins soon fill the bin without any actual wasted food. We must have the better bin men in BH6 'cos we all had our bins emptied and returned correctly, so well done to the Monday men. djd
  • Score: 24

8:42am Sat 8 Mar 14

ranger_bob says...

OMG! Binmen make a human error. Quick run to the Echo and look grumpy! I bet all those binmen ride bikes to work as well!
OMG! Binmen make a human error. Quick run to the Echo and look grumpy! I bet all those binmen ride bikes to work as well! ranger_bob
  • Score: 48

8:43am Sat 8 Mar 14

politicaltrainspotter says...

‘A few teething problems’

Larry Austin, strategic operations manager at Bournemouth council, said: “There’s been a few teething problems which I suppose you would expect when rolling out a scheme of this magnitude.

'Teething problems.'Thats an understatement. More like a whole new set of dentures ! The amount i have seen laying around smashed and damaged beyond repair.

Total waste of money.
‘A few teething problems’ Larry Austin, strategic operations manager at Bournemouth council, said: “There’s been a few teething problems which I suppose you would expect when rolling out a scheme of this magnitude. 'Teething problems.'Thats an understatement. More like a whole new set of dentures ! The amount i have seen laying around smashed and damaged beyond repair. Total waste of money. politicaltrainspotter
  • Score: 3

8:44am Sat 8 Mar 14

beej22 says...

I had the misfortune to be sitting behind a dustbin lorry for a very long time this week and was surprised to see the bin men empty a brown bin into the same place as the little bin so i wont bother separating it again.....
I had the misfortune to be sitting behind a dustbin lorry for a very long time this week and was surprised to see the bin men empty a brown bin into the same place as the little bin so i wont bother separating it again..... beej22
  • Score: 21

8:44am Sat 8 Mar 14

Recovery999 says...

How is this proof council staff are rubbish what this report fails to tell you is that the food collection started monday but residents of bournemouth had been using there food bins at least 2weeks prior even though they were told not to so when the regular collection of rubbish was due the loaders were unaware that the food bins were there as they shouldn't have been used
How is this proof council staff are rubbish what this report fails to tell you is that the food collection started monday but residents of bournemouth had been using there food bins at least 2weeks prior even though they were told not to so when the regular collection of rubbish was due the loaders were unaware that the food bins were there as they shouldn't have been used Recovery999
  • Score: 23

8:47am Sat 8 Mar 14

whataboutthat says...

Clearly this harebrained scheme, which even with 100% compliance would 'save' very little, is doomed to failure.
Clearly this harebrained scheme, which even with 100% compliance would 'save' very little, is doomed to failure. whataboutthat
  • Score: 1

8:49am Sat 8 Mar 14

Kiki1973 says...

ranger_bob wrote:
OMG! Binmen make a human error. Quick run to the Echo and look grumpy! I bet all those binmen ride bikes to work as well!
Well said! Human error, a tiny percentage at at that. Not the end of the world, and completely fixable. Ok, yes, an error, but I think a bit of perspective might not go amiss on this one. Accidents happen. Glass houses and all that, right?
[quote][p][bold]ranger_bob[/bold] wrote: OMG! Binmen make a human error. Quick run to the Echo and look grumpy! I bet all those binmen ride bikes to work as well![/p][/quote]Well said! Human error, a tiny percentage at at that. Not the end of the world, and completely fixable. Ok, yes, an error, but I think a bit of perspective might not go amiss on this one. Accidents happen. Glass houses and all that, right? Kiki1973
  • Score: 43

8:58am Sat 8 Mar 14

hooplaa says...

How does this stuff make the news section? Madness
How does this stuff make the news section? Madness hooplaa
  • Score: 14

9:01am Sat 8 Mar 14

TheDistrict says...

Recovery999 wrote:
How is this proof council staff are rubbish what this report fails to tell you is that the food collection started monday but residents of bournemouth had been using there food bins at least 2weeks prior even though they were told not to so when the regular collection of rubbish was due the loaders were unaware that the food bins were there as they shouldn't have been used
This on Monday. Surely the refuse teams had induction training.

Personally, not bothering. We have a porch which holds one bin, then the council issued a larger 2nd bin. We had to lose a washing line to make a compound for an extra 14 large bins. Now we have the new food waste bins taking up more space. Waste of time, waste of money.
[quote][p][bold]Recovery999[/bold] wrote: How is this proof council staff are rubbish what this report fails to tell you is that the food collection started monday but residents of bournemouth had been using there food bins at least 2weeks prior even though they were told not to so when the regular collection of rubbish was due the loaders were unaware that the food bins were there as they shouldn't have been used[/p][/quote]This on Monday. Surely the refuse teams had induction training. Personally, not bothering. We have a porch which holds one bin, then the council issued a larger 2nd bin. We had to lose a washing line to make a compound for an extra 14 large bins. Now we have the new food waste bins taking up more space. Waste of time, waste of money. TheDistrict
  • Score: -4

9:15am Sat 8 Mar 14

Drew_Peacock says...

Carolyn43 wrote:
So have I got this right? Residents are given a small brown bin to clip inside their larger refuse bin. When the refuse is collected the bin men have to lift the lid on the larger bin to see if there's a brown bin clipped inside. If there is, unclip the brown bin and empty the contents into a separate collector, then empty the larger bin as usual, and put the brown bin back inside it and return it to the resident.
......
Who thought that up? Bet is wasn't bin men. How very inefficient. How much longer does that add to the refuse collection round?
......
Wouldn't it be better for residents to unclip the brown bin and put it beside the large bin for collection if it has food waste in it, or is that too simple?
If this is correct, then yes the rounds not only will the rounds take longer, but the bin lorries will be running their engines longer, so any environmental benefits from separating food waste will be offset by increased emissions from the diesel engines of the bin wagons!
[quote][p][bold]Carolyn43[/bold] wrote: So have I got this right? Residents are given a small brown bin to clip inside their larger refuse bin. When the refuse is collected the bin men have to lift the lid on the larger bin to see if there's a brown bin clipped inside. If there is, unclip the brown bin and empty the contents into a separate collector, then empty the larger bin as usual, and put the brown bin back inside it and return it to the resident. ...... Who thought that up? Bet is wasn't bin men. How very inefficient. How much longer does that add to the refuse collection round? ...... Wouldn't it be better for residents to unclip the brown bin and put it beside the large bin for collection if it has food waste in it, or is that too simple?[/p][/quote]If this is correct, then yes the rounds not only will the rounds take longer, but the bin lorries will be running their engines longer, so any environmental benefits from separating food waste will be offset by increased emissions from the diesel engines of the bin wagons! Drew_Peacock
  • Score: 30

9:27am Sat 8 Mar 14

southbourne lover says...

TheDistrict wrote:
Recovery999 wrote:
How is this proof council staff are rubbish what this report fails to tell you is that the food collection started monday but residents of bournemouth had been using there food bins at least 2weeks prior even though they were told not to so when the regular collection of rubbish was due the loaders were unaware that the food bins were there as they shouldn't have been used
This on Monday. Surely the refuse teams had induction training.

Personally, not bothering. We have a porch which holds one bin, then the council issued a larger 2nd bin. We had to lose a washing line to make a compound for an extra 14 large bins. Now we have the new food waste bins taking up more space. Waste of time, waste of money.
Sounds like you are just too lazy to even give it a go.
[quote][p][bold]TheDistrict[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Recovery999[/bold] wrote: How is this proof council staff are rubbish what this report fails to tell you is that the food collection started monday but residents of bournemouth had been using there food bins at least 2weeks prior even though they were told not to so when the regular collection of rubbish was due the loaders were unaware that the food bins were there as they shouldn't have been used[/p][/quote]This on Monday. Surely the refuse teams had induction training. Personally, not bothering. We have a porch which holds one bin, then the council issued a larger 2nd bin. We had to lose a washing line to make a compound for an extra 14 large bins. Now we have the new food waste bins taking up more space. Waste of time, waste of money.[/p][/quote]Sounds like you are just too lazy to even give it a go. southbourne lover
  • Score: 11

9:31am Sat 8 Mar 14

Bonjovigirl says...

Bloody crap idea anyway, no-one down our road are using them ! Still can't see how mixing raw food and cooked food together is going to work in recycling ? Our compost bin does the job nicely and the cooked food scraps will still be going into little bin, I am not having a scrap pot on my kitchen side ! .
Bloody crap idea anyway, no-one down our road are using them ! Still can't see how mixing raw food and cooked food together is going to work in recycling ? Our compost bin does the job nicely and the cooked food scraps will still be going into little bin, I am not having a scrap pot on my kitchen side ! . Bonjovigirl
  • Score: 8

10:21am Sat 8 Mar 14

cherrygood says...

Another garbage non story from the Echo.

And I think you'll find that Council staff are human beings like the rest of us and are therefore prone to human error. Its just that when they do make mistakes people rush to the echo at the first opportunity. Private sector staff are equally capable of **** ups and i'm sure they happen regularly but it isn't newsworthy so we never hear about them.
Another garbage non story from the Echo. And I think you'll find that Council staff are human beings like the rest of us and are therefore prone to human error. Its just that when they do make mistakes people rush to the echo at the first opportunity. Private sector staff are equally capable of **** ups and i'm sure they happen regularly but it isn't newsworthy so we never hear about them. cherrygood
  • Score: 29

10:25am Sat 8 Mar 14

Recovery999 says...

TheDistrict wrote:
Recovery999 wrote:
How is this proof council staff are rubbish what this report fails to tell you is that the food collection started monday but residents of bournemouth had been using there food bins at least 2weeks prior even though they were told not to so when the regular collection of rubbish was due the loaders were unaware that the food bins were there as they shouldn't have been used
This on Monday. Surely the refuse teams had induction training.

Personally, not bothering. We have a porch which holds one bin, then the council issued a larger 2nd bin. We had to lose a washing line to make a compound for an extra 14 large bins. Now we have the new food waste bins taking up more space. Waste of time, waste of money.
Agreed they would have had induction training but as stated in other posts mistakes will be made we all make them i also agree the food waste is a waste of time but people shouldnt tar all council staff with the same brush not all council workers are rubbish
[quote][p][bold]TheDistrict[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Recovery999[/bold] wrote: How is this proof council staff are rubbish what this report fails to tell you is that the food collection started monday but residents of bournemouth had been using there food bins at least 2weeks prior even though they were told not to so when the regular collection of rubbish was due the loaders were unaware that the food bins were there as they shouldn't have been used[/p][/quote]This on Monday. Surely the refuse teams had induction training. Personally, not bothering. We have a porch which holds one bin, then the council issued a larger 2nd bin. We had to lose a washing line to make a compound for an extra 14 large bins. Now we have the new food waste bins taking up more space. Waste of time, waste of money.[/p][/quote]Agreed they would have had induction training but as stated in other posts mistakes will be made we all make them i also agree the food waste is a waste of time but people shouldnt tar all council staff with the same brush not all council workers are rubbish Recovery999
  • Score: 12

10:30am Sat 8 Mar 14

cherrygood says...

Bonjovigirl wrote:
Bloody crap idea anyway, no-one down our road are using them ! Still can't see how mixing raw food and cooked food together is going to work in recycling ? Our compost bin does the job nicely and the cooked food scraps will still be going into little bin, I am not having a scrap pot on my kitchen side ! .
It's not a new idea in any case, East Dorset has had these bins for years.
[quote][p][bold]Bonjovigirl[/bold] wrote: Bloody crap idea anyway, no-one down our road are using them ! Still can't see how mixing raw food and cooked food together is going to work in recycling ? Our compost bin does the job nicely and the cooked food scraps will still be going into little bin, I am not having a scrap pot on my kitchen side ! .[/p][/quote]It's not a new idea in any case, East Dorset has had these bins for years. cherrygood
  • Score: 9

10:37am Sat 8 Mar 14

ragj195 says...

Carolyn43 wrote:
So have I got this right? Residents are given a small brown bin to clip inside their larger refuse bin. When the refuse is collected the bin men have to lift the lid on the larger bin to see if there's a brown bin clipped inside. If there is, unclip the brown bin and empty the contents into a separate collector, then empty the larger bin as usual, and put the brown bin back inside it and return it to the resident.
......
Who thought that up? Bet is wasn't bin men. How very inefficient. How much longer does that add to the refuse collection round?
......
Wouldn't it be better for residents to unclip the brown bin and put it beside the large bin for collection if it has food waste in it, or is that too simple?
The reason is has to stay high in the bin is so that rats, foxes etc don't spread it all over the pavement.
[quote][p][bold]Carolyn43[/bold] wrote: So have I got this right? Residents are given a small brown bin to clip inside their larger refuse bin. When the refuse is collected the bin men have to lift the lid on the larger bin to see if there's a brown bin clipped inside. If there is, unclip the brown bin and empty the contents into a separate collector, then empty the larger bin as usual, and put the brown bin back inside it and return it to the resident. ...... Who thought that up? Bet is wasn't bin men. How very inefficient. How much longer does that add to the refuse collection round? ...... Wouldn't it be better for residents to unclip the brown bin and put it beside the large bin for collection if it has food waste in it, or is that too simple?[/p][/quote]The reason is has to stay high in the bin is so that rats, foxes etc don't spread it all over the pavement. ragj195
  • Score: 3

11:14am Sat 8 Mar 14

southbourne lover says...

ragj195 wrote:
Carolyn43 wrote:
So have I got this right? Residents are given a small brown bin to clip inside their larger refuse bin. When the refuse is collected the bin men have to lift the lid on the larger bin to see if there's a brown bin clipped inside. If there is, unclip the brown bin and empty the contents into a separate collector, then empty the larger bin as usual, and put the brown bin back inside it and return it to the resident.
......
Who thought that up? Bet is wasn't bin men. How very inefficient. How much longer does that add to the refuse collection round?
......
Wouldn't it be better for residents to unclip the brown bin and put it beside the large bin for collection if it has food waste in it, or is that too simple?
The reason is has to stay high in the bin is so that rats, foxes etc don't spread it all over the pavement.
The bins lock - just to stop that.
[quote][p][bold]ragj195[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Carolyn43[/bold] wrote: So have I got this right? Residents are given a small brown bin to clip inside their larger refuse bin. When the refuse is collected the bin men have to lift the lid on the larger bin to see if there's a brown bin clipped inside. If there is, unclip the brown bin and empty the contents into a separate collector, then empty the larger bin as usual, and put the brown bin back inside it and return it to the resident. ...... Who thought that up? Bet is wasn't bin men. How very inefficient. How much longer does that add to the refuse collection round? ...... Wouldn't it be better for residents to unclip the brown bin and put it beside the large bin for collection if it has food waste in it, or is that too simple?[/p][/quote]The reason is has to stay high in the bin is so that rats, foxes etc don't spread it all over the pavement.[/p][/quote]The bins lock - just to stop that. southbourne lover
  • Score: 14

11:25am Sat 8 Mar 14

Mamma Troll says...

we haven't been given a food waste bin yet ay bh11
we haven't been given a food waste bin yet ay bh11 Mamma Troll
  • Score: 4

11:38am Sat 8 Mar 14

Phixer says...

ragj195 wrote:
Carolyn43 wrote:
So have I got this right? Residents are given a small brown bin to clip inside their larger refuse bin. When the refuse is collected the bin men have to lift the lid on the larger bin to see if there's a brown bin clipped inside. If there is, unclip the brown bin and empty the contents into a separate collector, then empty the larger bin as usual, and put the brown bin back inside it and return it to the resident.
......
Who thought that up? Bet is wasn't bin men. How very inefficient. How much longer does that add to the refuse collection round?
......
Wouldn't it be better for residents to unclip the brown bin and put it beside the large bin for collection if it has food waste in it, or is that too simple?
The reason is has to stay high in the bin is so that rats, foxes etc don't spread it all over the pavement.
Do you have a trap door in the bottom of your bin to let the rats, cats, foxes in? The only bins I've seen have the lid on top, which is where the food caddy goes! Doh!
[quote][p][bold]ragj195[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Carolyn43[/bold] wrote: So have I got this right? Residents are given a small brown bin to clip inside their larger refuse bin. When the refuse is collected the bin men have to lift the lid on the larger bin to see if there's a brown bin clipped inside. If there is, unclip the brown bin and empty the contents into a separate collector, then empty the larger bin as usual, and put the brown bin back inside it and return it to the resident. ...... Who thought that up? Bet is wasn't bin men. How very inefficient. How much longer does that add to the refuse collection round? ...... Wouldn't it be better for residents to unclip the brown bin and put it beside the large bin for collection if it has food waste in it, or is that too simple?[/p][/quote]The reason is has to stay high in the bin is so that rats, foxes etc don't spread it all over the pavement.[/p][/quote]Do you have a trap door in the bottom of your bin to let the rats, cats, foxes in? The only bins I've seen have the lid on top, which is where the food caddy goes! Doh! Phixer
  • Score: 2

11:39am Sat 8 Mar 14

alanhl says...

when these bins were delivered the label said store until March, start of March? middle of March? end of March? it did not say when to start using them. a complete ****-up by those in charge
when these bins were delivered the label said store until March, start of March? middle of March? end of March? it did not say when to start using them. a complete ****-up by those in charge alanhl
  • Score: -7

11:49am Sat 8 Mar 14

Teecee1309 says...

Really not sure this scheme will work. Because of the size of the bags supplied with the kitchen caddy, you can only half fill them up,allowing for the bags to be tied up, so more bags witll have to be used, which in the long-term will increase costs.
Before we went out yesterday, we put our bigger food waste bin out to be emptied, and when we returned, we found it had been slung over our garden wall, and was laying on it's side against a decorative piece of stone we have in the garden. If that is done every time, it will not take long for it to end up smashed to bits, deeming it useless, and another £5 will have to be spent by Bournemouth council to replace it.
More thought should have been put into this scheme before it was live.
Really not sure this scheme will work. Because of the size of the bags supplied with the kitchen caddy, you can only half fill them up,allowing for the bags to be tied up, so more bags witll have to be used, which in the long-term will increase costs. Before we went out yesterday, we put our bigger food waste bin out to be emptied, and when we returned, we found it had been slung over our garden wall, and was laying on it's side against a decorative piece of stone we have in the garden. If that is done every time, it will not take long for it to end up smashed to bits, deeming it useless, and another £5 will have to be spent by Bournemouth council to replace it. More thought should have been put into this scheme before it was live. Teecee1309
  • Score: 2

11:51am Sat 8 Mar 14

Beach2014 says...

It would have better suited and more cost effective if the Council actually ASKED Bournemouth residents to opt in with the idea of caddy bins, instead of forced dropped and so many bins being not used.
It would have better suited and more cost effective if the Council actually ASKED Bournemouth residents to opt in with the idea of caddy bins, instead of forced dropped and so many bins being not used. Beach2014
  • Score: 7

12:10pm Sat 8 Mar 14

richardcompton3 says...

Well, that takes the biscuit or at least it would if the bins hadn,t been taken. Sums up Council staff & training!
Well, that takes the biscuit or at least it would if the bins hadn,t been taken. Sums up Council staff & training! richardcompton3
  • Score: -1

12:34pm Sat 8 Mar 14

Just_Sayin' says...

This is an excellent scheme and just some dopey half asleep binmen forgeting there job. Hardly worth the spot in the echo really as they are hardly going to make that mistake again.
On Bournemouth'scurrent waste action though I would like to see some real investigation into the New Earth Solutions MSW Recycling Plant that is producing an end product derived as CLO! The fact is they are pretending to use this on Whites Landfill which they actually own! When in reality they are producing tonnes of CLO each day and burying it on there own land making out this process is producing a recycled product which is actually WASTE chuck in all the government funding, a huge amount of pollution created in recycling black bag waste and again we have another company doing more damage in the name of recycling to make profit and sell shares instead of protecting the one thing that is real the PLANET!!!
This is an excellent scheme and just some dopey half asleep binmen forgeting there job. Hardly worth the spot in the echo really as they are hardly going to make that mistake again. On Bournemouth'scurrent waste action though I would like to see some real investigation into the New Earth Solutions MSW Recycling Plant that is producing an end product derived as CLO! The fact is they are pretending to use this on Whites Landfill which they actually own! When in reality they are producing tonnes of CLO each day and burying it on there own land making out this process is producing a recycled product which is actually WASTE chuck in all the government funding, a huge amount of pollution created in recycling black bag waste and again we have another company doing more damage in the name of recycling to make profit and sell shares instead of protecting the one thing that is real the PLANET!!! Just_Sayin'
  • Score: 5

1:51pm Sat 8 Mar 14

spooki says...

I thought they were meant to go in the top of the recycle bin? Either way, we have a narrow kitchen with three bins (we have a compost bin for the garden) and now another bin to get in the way just so some fool can tip it all into the same lorry. Brilliant!
I thought they were meant to go in the top of the recycle bin? Either way, we have a narrow kitchen with three bins (we have a compost bin for the garden) and now another bin to get in the way just so some fool can tip it all into the same lorry. Brilliant! spooki
  • Score: 4

2:42pm Sat 8 Mar 14

ragj195 says...

Phixer wrote:
ragj195 wrote:
Carolyn43 wrote:
So have I got this right? Residents are given a small brown bin to clip inside their larger refuse bin. When the refuse is collected the bin men have to lift the lid on the larger bin to see if there's a brown bin clipped inside. If there is, unclip the brown bin and empty the contents into a separate collector, then empty the larger bin as usual, and put the brown bin back inside it and return it to the resident.
......
Who thought that up? Bet is wasn't bin men. How very inefficient. How much longer does that add to the refuse collection round?
......
Wouldn't it be better for residents to unclip the brown bin and put it beside the large bin for collection if it has food waste in it, or is that too simple?
The reason is has to stay high in the bin is so that rats, foxes etc don't spread it all over the pavement.
Do you have a trap door in the bottom of your bin to let the rats, cats, foxes in? The only bins I've seen have the lid on top, which is where the food caddy goes! Doh!
In the bin rather than beside the bin doh !
[quote][p][bold]Phixer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ragj195[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Carolyn43[/bold] wrote: So have I got this right? Residents are given a small brown bin to clip inside their larger refuse bin. When the refuse is collected the bin men have to lift the lid on the larger bin to see if there's a brown bin clipped inside. If there is, unclip the brown bin and empty the contents into a separate collector, then empty the larger bin as usual, and put the brown bin back inside it and return it to the resident. ...... Who thought that up? Bet is wasn't bin men. How very inefficient. How much longer does that add to the refuse collection round? ...... Wouldn't it be better for residents to unclip the brown bin and put it beside the large bin for collection if it has food waste in it, or is that too simple?[/p][/quote]The reason is has to stay high in the bin is so that rats, foxes etc don't spread it all over the pavement.[/p][/quote]Do you have a trap door in the bottom of your bin to let the rats, cats, foxes in? The only bins I've seen have the lid on top, which is where the food caddy goes! Doh![/p][/quote]In the bin rather than beside the bin doh ! ragj195
  • Score: 1

3:15pm Sat 8 Mar 14

sc61 says...

"The £7.1million scheme was funded by central government"

Should presumably read:-

"The £7.1million scheme was funded by taxpayers"
"The £7.1million scheme was funded by central government" Should presumably read:- "The £7.1million scheme was funded by taxpayers" sc61
  • Score: 11

4:31pm Sat 8 Mar 14

southbourne lover says...

alanhl wrote:
when these bins were delivered the label said store until March, start of March? middle of March? end of March? it did not say when to start using them. a complete ****-up by those in charge
You are connected to the internet-you only had to look on the council's website to find all the details and even where and when the council would be out and about to explain it all. It's not rocket science.
[quote][p][bold]alanhl[/bold] wrote: when these bins were delivered the label said store until March, start of March? middle of March? end of March? it did not say when to start using them. a complete ****-up by those in charge[/p][/quote]You are connected to the internet-you only had to look on the council's website to find all the details and even where and when the council would be out and about to explain it all. It's not rocket science. southbourne lover
  • Score: 12

4:36pm Sat 8 Mar 14

southbourne lover says...

Beach2014 wrote:
It would have better suited and more cost effective if the Council actually ASKED Bournemouth residents to opt in with the idea of caddy bins, instead of forced dropped and so many bins being not used.
If recycling saves money, as the council says then it's about time that a way was found that made people recycle and had some form of penalty for those that do not. Why should the lazy ones benefit from the people who do re cycle..
[quote][p][bold]Beach2014[/bold] wrote: It would have better suited and more cost effective if the Council actually ASKED Bournemouth residents to opt in with the idea of caddy bins, instead of forced dropped and so many bins being not used.[/p][/quote]If recycling saves money, as the council says then it's about time that a way was found that made people recycle and had some form of penalty for those that do not. Why should the lazy ones benefit from the people who do re cycle.. southbourne lover
  • Score: -6

4:43pm Sat 8 Mar 14

Teddy 1 says...

sc61 wrote:
"The £7.1million scheme was funded by central government"

Should presumably read:-

"The £7.1million scheme was funded by taxpayers"
Would rather have a reduction in tax. Pointless waste of money. Slops bins...yuk!!
[quote][p][bold]sc61[/bold] wrote: "The £7.1million scheme was funded by central government" Should presumably read:- "The £7.1million scheme was funded by taxpayers"[/p][/quote]Would rather have a reduction in tax. Pointless waste of money. Slops bins...yuk!! Teddy 1
  • Score: 4

4:56pm Sat 8 Mar 14

seaviews says...

This has been standard practice for a lot of Europe for 10+ years and works well, yet Bournemouth council cant manage to setup and train their employees to empty the bins correctly!
This has been standard practice for a lot of Europe for 10+ years and works well, yet Bournemouth council cant manage to setup and train their employees to empty the bins correctly! seaviews
  • Score: 1

5:16pm Sat 8 Mar 14

O'Reilly says...

Those nice little brown food waste bins will make lovely bait boxes.....cue - Lonnie Donegan....
Those nice little brown food waste bins will make lovely bait boxes.....cue - Lonnie Donegan.... O'Reilly
  • Score: 7

5:30pm Sat 8 Mar 14

Jetwasher says...

Im sure mine might end up there as well I'm not too keen on the idea of food bin in the kitchen stinking the place out. I recycle enough already, is there a way we can opt out of this ?
Im sure mine might end up there as well I'm not too keen on the idea of food bin in the kitchen stinking the place out. I recycle enough already, is there a way we can opt out of this ? Jetwasher
  • Score: 5

5:35pm Sat 8 Mar 14

ShuttleX says...

Huey wrote:
Proof if ever needed how rubbish council staff are.
Of course if you, or anybody else, think you can do better, then feel free to apply for a job. Easy to pick fault from the comfort of your armchair. The bulk of the Council workers, at least at the coal face, do a very good job. It's the overpaid pen pushing waste of space managers that need to have a boot up the harris. As always with the Council, the Service Directors send emails to each other, the Mangers sometimes get a copy, and duly send emails back, but nobody at the top ever listens to those that do the work on the ground. In fact the bin men were told about the scheme, but it was never fully explained to them by their bosses, as is usual. Just like Mr Beeselys plan to ram new contracts through, regardless of how much money people were going to lose. It was only after the top bosses realised how much they would have to pay in Agency fees, when staff refused to sign the new contracts, and the possibility of strike action bringing the whole Council to a screaming halt, that they have "postponed" the roll out of new contracts. As I said at the beginning, if anybody thinks they can do better, get an application form now.
[quote][p][bold]Huey[/bold] wrote: Proof if ever needed how rubbish council staff are.[/p][/quote]Of course if you, or anybody else, think you can do better, then feel free to apply for a job. Easy to pick fault from the comfort of your armchair. The bulk of the Council workers, at least at the coal face, do a very good job. It's the overpaid pen pushing waste of space managers that need to have a boot up the harris. As always with the Council, the Service Directors send emails to each other, the Mangers sometimes get a copy, and duly send emails back, but nobody at the top ever listens to those that do the work on the ground. In fact the bin men were told about the scheme, but it was never fully explained to them by their bosses, as is usual. Just like Mr Beeselys plan to ram new contracts through, regardless of how much money people were going to lose. It was only after the top bosses realised how much they would have to pay in Agency fees, when staff refused to sign the new contracts, and the possibility of strike action bringing the whole Council to a screaming halt, that they have "postponed" the roll out of new contracts. As I said at the beginning, if anybody thinks they can do better, get an application form now. ShuttleX
  • Score: 7

5:43pm Sat 8 Mar 14

Jetwasher says...

O'Reilly wrote:
Those nice little brown food waste bins will make lovely bait boxes.....cue - Lonnie Donegan....
You can have mine if you want it ?
[quote][p][bold]O'Reilly[/bold] wrote: Those nice little brown food waste bins will make lovely bait boxes.....cue - Lonnie Donegan....[/p][/quote]You can have mine if you want it ? Jetwasher
  • Score: 4

5:45pm Sat 8 Mar 14

rozmister says...

ShuttleX wrote:
Huey wrote:
Proof if ever needed how rubbish council staff are.
Of course if you, or anybody else, think you can do better, then feel free to apply for a job. Easy to pick fault from the comfort of your armchair. The bulk of the Council workers, at least at the coal face, do a very good job. It's the overpaid pen pushing waste of space managers that need to have a boot up the harris. As always with the Council, the Service Directors send emails to each other, the Mangers sometimes get a copy, and duly send emails back, but nobody at the top ever listens to those that do the work on the ground. In fact the bin men were told about the scheme, but it was never fully explained to them by their bosses, as is usual. Just like Mr Beeselys plan to ram new contracts through, regardless of how much money people were going to lose. It was only after the top bosses realised how much they would have to pay in Agency fees, when staff refused to sign the new contracts, and the possibility of strike action bringing the whole Council to a screaming halt, that they have "postponed" the roll out of new contracts. As I said at the beginning, if anybody thinks they can do better, get an application form now.
Postponed until after next years elections...
[quote][p][bold]ShuttleX[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Huey[/bold] wrote: Proof if ever needed how rubbish council staff are.[/p][/quote]Of course if you, or anybody else, think you can do better, then feel free to apply for a job. Easy to pick fault from the comfort of your armchair. The bulk of the Council workers, at least at the coal face, do a very good job. It's the overpaid pen pushing waste of space managers that need to have a boot up the harris. As always with the Council, the Service Directors send emails to each other, the Mangers sometimes get a copy, and duly send emails back, but nobody at the top ever listens to those that do the work on the ground. In fact the bin men were told about the scheme, but it was never fully explained to them by their bosses, as is usual. Just like Mr Beeselys plan to ram new contracts through, regardless of how much money people were going to lose. It was only after the top bosses realised how much they would have to pay in Agency fees, when staff refused to sign the new contracts, and the possibility of strike action bringing the whole Council to a screaming halt, that they have "postponed" the roll out of new contracts. As I said at the beginning, if anybody thinks they can do better, get an application form now.[/p][/quote]Postponed until after next years elections... rozmister
  • Score: 5

6:03pm Sat 8 Mar 14

oversixty says...

Will never use it as I have two wormeries!
Will never use it as I have two wormeries! oversixty
  • Score: 2

6:44pm Sat 8 Mar 14

P A NEWMAN says...

It is well past the time when landfill was minimally used and recovery of recyclable materials was maximised. While I am a Green thinker i disagree with Friends of the Earth opposition to incineration, particularly when allied to carbon/gas filter flues and energy generation.
It is well past the time when landfill was minimally used and recovery of recyclable materials was maximised. While I am a Green thinker i disagree with Friends of the Earth opposition to incineration, particularly when allied to carbon/gas filter flues and energy generation. P A NEWMAN
  • Score: 3

8:10pm Sat 8 Mar 14

GeorgeW64 says...

I use the big one for keeping cleaning stuff in and the small one to store dog biscuits, Thank you Bournemouth Council.
I use the big one for keeping cleaning stuff in and the small one to store dog biscuits, Thank you Bournemouth Council. GeorgeW64
  • Score: 6

12:18am Sun 9 Mar 14

Yankee1 says...

Union jobs.
Union jobs. Yankee1
  • Score: -1

3:14am Sun 9 Mar 14

Nigel Blumenthal says...

Did anyone on the council do any research into how the collection scheme might work, and how other cities that have organic waste collection have set this up?

The whole concept of a resident's having to clip their own small waste container inside another bin is just asking for trouble, and it increases the time taken at every house, because the collectors have to lift the lid of every bin to see whether there's a brown container inside, then remove it and empty it separately. What a waste of time this is. In other cities where this scheme works well, there is a separate green (or brown) bin that is, or is not (depending on whether you've got enough waste for it) put out for collection on rubbish days. That's a totally separate bin from the smaller container that lives in your kitchen, which is never put outside. You just empty the contents of the smaller container into the bigger green bin, which you then take to the kerb on collection days. Simple story.

Why Bournemouth never foresaw how unwieldy this scheme is, I'll never know. They've succeeded in making a good scheme (for organic rubbish collection) into a laughing-stock, that just makes people not want to co-operate. Everyone will have to co-operate eventually, though, so it's up to the councils to make it easy for people to put their waste out correctly.
Did anyone on the council do any research into how the collection scheme might work, and how other cities that have organic waste collection have set this up? The whole concept of a resident's having to clip their own small waste container inside another bin is just asking for trouble, and it increases the time taken at every house, because the collectors have to lift the lid of every bin to see whether there's a brown container inside, then remove it and empty it separately. What a waste of time this is. In other cities where this scheme works well, there is a separate green (or brown) bin that is, or is not (depending on whether you've got enough waste for it) put out for collection on rubbish days. That's a totally separate bin from the smaller container that lives in your kitchen, which is never put outside. You just empty the contents of the smaller container into the bigger green bin, which you then take to the kerb on collection days. Simple story. Why Bournemouth never foresaw how unwieldy this scheme is, I'll never know. They've succeeded in making a good scheme (for organic rubbish collection) into a laughing-stock, that just makes people not want to co-operate. Everyone will have to co-operate eventually, though, so it's up to the councils to make it easy for people to put their waste out correctly. Nigel Blumenthal
  • Score: 0

6:35am Sun 9 Mar 14

WTFRUON says...

afcb-mark wrote:
Only one out of the four with arms folded, that's more disappointing than the bins getting thrown in the lorry. These bins have now taken their place on a shelf in my shed, very useful for storing small tools in.
files and hammers in the big one screwdrivers in the small one veg peelings in my compost bin, any cooked food left which is rare goes in the dogs.
[quote][p][bold]afcb-mark[/bold] wrote: Only one out of the four with arms folded, that's more disappointing than the bins getting thrown in the lorry. These bins have now taken their place on a shelf in my shed, very useful for storing small tools in.[/p][/quote]files and hammers in the big one screwdrivers in the small one veg peelings in my compost bin, any cooked food left which is rare goes in the dogs. WTFRUON
  • Score: 3

7:55am Sun 9 Mar 14

Richard 1976 says...

Why does our council fiddle around with such unimportant money wasting projects? Is it just to keep folk in the town hall in jobs? I wonder! So many things need sorting in bournemouth I don't see where putting slops in a brown bucket comes into the list of priorities? Clearly above encouraging redevelopment in the town centre, sorting out the pigs ear of a road system, tackling anti social behaviour, blah blah.. Please do tell me when the councils bottom wiping service starts?
Why does our council fiddle around with such unimportant money wasting projects? Is it just to keep folk in the town hall in jobs? I wonder! So many things need sorting in bournemouth I don't see where putting slops in a brown bucket comes into the list of priorities? Clearly above encouraging redevelopment in the town centre, sorting out the pigs ear of a road system, tackling anti social behaviour, blah blah.. Please do tell me when the councils bottom wiping service starts? Richard 1976
  • Score: 4

8:12am Sun 9 Mar 14

foggy1965 says...

landfills recover the gas made by food waste, as well as other rubbish and turn it into electricity, how can having a little bin for food waste that takes longer for the bin men to empty, more fuel used by the lorry's, more staff to proses the food waste, and keeps some environmental "nut job" getting a big salary at the council? we have this scam?..... opps scheme in the Purbecks and in 120 homes in our street only 2 bins were put out? I saw a good 50 plus getting crushed when they tipped them off in the landfill. so the government have given councils OUR money on top of what we pay them anyway, to go ahead with this stupid idea. only real winner is the office staff in the councils who now have extra staff in well paid jobs in the name of the environment? bin men don't get more money. and they are the ones if asked think its a bloody stupid idea to start with.
would it shock some of you to know that waste from Poole and Bournemouth, is driven to a yard, more fuel, loaded on to 44 ton lorry's and driven upto the edge of the m25 to go into a incinerator........ how's that for helping the environment?

it's sunday and I haven't said one thing about lycra clad terrorists on bikes?????????
landfills recover the gas made by food waste, as well as other rubbish and turn it into electricity, how can having a little bin for food waste that takes longer for the bin men to empty, more fuel used by the lorry's, more staff to proses the food waste, and keeps some environmental "nut job" getting a big salary at the council? we have this scam?..... opps scheme in the Purbecks and in 120 homes in our street only 2 bins were put out? I saw a good 50 plus getting crushed when they tipped them off in the landfill. so the government have given councils OUR money on top of what we pay them anyway, to go ahead with this stupid idea. only real winner is the office staff in the councils who now have extra staff in well paid jobs in the name of the environment? bin men don't get more money. and they are the ones if asked think its a bloody stupid idea to start with. would it shock some of you to know that waste from Poole and Bournemouth, is driven to a yard, more fuel, loaded on to 44 ton lorry's and driven upto the edge of the m25 to go into a incinerator........ how's that for helping the environment? it's sunday and I haven't said one thing about lycra clad terrorists on bikes????????? foggy1965
  • Score: 3

9:26am Sun 9 Mar 14

chridrum says...

Sadly this is not one of Bournemouth's finest schemes.
The concept is good and well tested by other councils, so why has this gone so wrong?
It seems to be the one size fits all and everyone wants it implementation method.
So I for example with a family of 5 vegetable & fruit munching adults have a full bin half way through the week just with peelings and real waste. In order to get a larger bin I have to be interviewed about my food waste habits...... What are they going to advise eat less fruit & veg, get a compost bin ( already have one), get someone to move out? On the other hand my elderly next door neighbour who lives alone has exactly the same bin.

So here is the real problem.
Bournemouth is cluttered with bins due to millions of flats. Why don't flats have communal bins? In fact why don't we get rid of household bins and do what the French do, take all your rubbish to communal bins. Surely that saves money and then there is the capacity for all households with the added incentive to reduce waste because you have to get it to the communal bins yourself.

Nothing that sensible/radical will happen, so to solve the current problem:-

I doubt the poor bin men have been allocated extra time to do this new round. Even if they have surely it's more sensible to place the brown bin on top of your small bin on collection day to make their life easier. (Bending down for small bins will be a back killer)
Please could the council just give a larger bin to households requesting one, we don't need you to waste your time and ours coming to interview us.

It will be interesting to see how this develops ....
Sadly this is not one of Bournemouth's finest schemes. The concept is good and well tested by other councils, so why has this gone so wrong? It seems to be the one size fits all and everyone wants it implementation method. So I for example with a family of 5 vegetable & fruit munching adults have a full bin half way through the week just with peelings and real waste. In order to get a larger bin I have to be interviewed about my food waste habits...... What are they going to advise eat less fruit & veg, get a compost bin ( already have one), get someone to move out? On the other hand my elderly next door neighbour who lives alone has exactly the same bin. So here is the real problem. Bournemouth is cluttered with bins due to millions of flats. Why don't flats have communal bins? In fact why don't we get rid of household bins and do what the French do, take all your rubbish to communal bins. Surely that saves money and then there is the capacity for all households with the added incentive to reduce waste because you have to get it to the communal bins yourself. Nothing that sensible/radical will happen, so to solve the current problem:- I doubt the poor bin men have been allocated extra time to do this new round. Even if they have surely it's more sensible to place the brown bin on top of your small bin on collection day to make their life easier. (Bending down for small bins will be a back killer) Please could the council just give a larger bin to households requesting one, we don't need you to waste your time and ours coming to interview us. It will be interesting to see how this develops .... chridrum
  • Score: 1

9:47am Sun 9 Mar 14

Hawkstone says...

Purbeck council residents have similar little brown bins for food waste......theirs has a locking handle so that it can be left on the pavement with no chance of animals disturbing them......just saying!
Purbeck council residents have similar little brown bins for food waste......theirs has a locking handle so that it can be left on the pavement with no chance of animals disturbing them......just saying! Hawkstone
  • Score: 2

11:49am Sun 9 Mar 14

rozmister says...

Nigel Blumenthal wrote:
Did anyone on the council do any research into how the collection scheme might work, and how other cities that have organic waste collection have set this up?

The whole concept of a resident's having to clip their own small waste container inside another bin is just asking for trouble, and it increases the time taken at every house, because the collectors have to lift the lid of every bin to see whether there's a brown container inside, then remove it and empty it separately. What a waste of time this is. In other cities where this scheme works well, there is a separate green (or brown) bin that is, or is not (depending on whether you've got enough waste for it) put out for collection on rubbish days. That's a totally separate bin from the smaller container that lives in your kitchen, which is never put outside. You just empty the contents of the smaller container into the bigger green bin, which you then take to the kerb on collection days. Simple story.

Why Bournemouth never foresaw how unwieldy this scheme is, I'll never know. They've succeeded in making a good scheme (for organic rubbish collection) into a laughing-stock, that just makes people not want to co-operate. Everyone will have to co-operate eventually, though, so it's up to the councils to make it easy for people to put their waste out correctly.
In Bournemouth there is a separate container for outside and a smaller container for inside...just like the other services. That's a totally separate container from the smaller caddy that lives in the kitchen...just like you describe.

Do you understand how Bournemouth's food waste collections work? They're identical to what you describe in the rest of the country the only difference being the outside container can sit in your bin as well as by the side with the handle locked to keep animals out.
[quote][p][bold]Nigel Blumenthal[/bold] wrote: Did anyone on the council do any research into how the collection scheme might work, and how other cities that have organic waste collection have set this up? The whole concept of a resident's having to clip their own small waste container inside another bin is just asking for trouble, and it increases the time taken at every house, because the collectors have to lift the lid of every bin to see whether there's a brown container inside, then remove it and empty it separately. What a waste of time this is. In other cities where this scheme works well, there is a separate green (or brown) bin that is, or is not (depending on whether you've got enough waste for it) put out for collection on rubbish days. That's a totally separate bin from the smaller container that lives in your kitchen, which is never put outside. You just empty the contents of the smaller container into the bigger green bin, which you then take to the kerb on collection days. Simple story. Why Bournemouth never foresaw how unwieldy this scheme is, I'll never know. They've succeeded in making a good scheme (for organic rubbish collection) into a laughing-stock, that just makes people not want to co-operate. Everyone will have to co-operate eventually, though, so it's up to the councils to make it easy for people to put their waste out correctly.[/p][/quote]In Bournemouth there is a separate container for outside and a smaller container for inside...just like the other services. That's a totally separate container from the smaller caddy that lives in the kitchen...just like you describe. Do you understand how Bournemouth's food waste collections work? They're identical to what you describe in the rest of the country the only difference being the outside container can sit in your bin as well as by the side with the handle locked to keep animals out. rozmister
  • Score: 4

12:47pm Sun 9 Mar 14

carrrob says...

Mmmm council staff not the brightest bunch !
Mmmm council staff not the brightest bunch ! carrrob
  • Score: -4

5:13pm Sun 9 Mar 14

Plumber64 says...

The usual lets knock the Bin men not the the people who got it wrong . I expect while most people are in bed or watch Breakfast TV . They are out in all winds and weather doing a good job being hammered with reduce benefits and pensions while the fat cats and society middle class nock them .
Bet most of you who post don't even say good morning to them ??
The usual lets knock the Bin men not the the people who got it wrong . I expect while most people are in bed or watch Breakfast TV . They are out in all winds and weather doing a good job being hammered with reduce benefits and pensions while the fat cats and society middle class nock them . Bet most of you who post don't even say good morning to them ?? Plumber64
  • Score: 7

5:19pm Sun 9 Mar 14

cromwell9 says...

Whatching Humans ,in their every day life is better entertainment than TV,
I am not Surprised .
Whatching Humans ,in their every day life is better entertainment than TV, I am not Surprised . cromwell9
  • Score: 2

5:51pm Sun 9 Mar 14

O'Reilly says...

Richard 1976 wrote:
Why does our council fiddle around with such unimportant money wasting projects? Is it just to keep folk in the town hall in jobs? I wonder! So many things need sorting in bournemouth I don't see where putting slops in a brown bucket comes into the list of priorities? Clearly above encouraging redevelopment in the town centre, sorting out the pigs ear of a road system, tackling anti social behaviour, blah blah.. Please do tell me when the councils bottom wiping service starts?
I think you will find Richard that they get shed loads of money from central goverment and the EU to persue these activities.....
[quote][p][bold]Richard 1976[/bold] wrote: Why does our council fiddle around with such unimportant money wasting projects? Is it just to keep folk in the town hall in jobs? I wonder! So many things need sorting in bournemouth I don't see where putting slops in a brown bucket comes into the list of priorities? Clearly above encouraging redevelopment in the town centre, sorting out the pigs ear of a road system, tackling anti social behaviour, blah blah.. Please do tell me when the councils bottom wiping service starts?[/p][/quote]I think you will find Richard that they get shed loads of money from central goverment and the EU to persue these activities..... O'Reilly
  • Score: 1

5:52pm Sun 9 Mar 14

O'Reilly says...

O'Reilly wrote:
Richard 1976 wrote:
Why does our council fiddle around with such unimportant money wasting projects? Is it just to keep folk in the town hall in jobs? I wonder! So many things need sorting in bournemouth I don't see where putting slops in a brown bucket comes into the list of priorities? Clearly above encouraging redevelopment in the town centre, sorting out the pigs ear of a road system, tackling anti social behaviour, blah blah.. Please do tell me when the councils bottom wiping service starts?
I think you will find Richard that they get shed loads of money from central goverment and the EU to persue these activities.....
*pursue*.... ;-)
[quote][p][bold]O'Reilly[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Richard 1976[/bold] wrote: Why does our council fiddle around with such unimportant money wasting projects? Is it just to keep folk in the town hall in jobs? I wonder! So many things need sorting in bournemouth I don't see where putting slops in a brown bucket comes into the list of priorities? Clearly above encouraging redevelopment in the town centre, sorting out the pigs ear of a road system, tackling anti social behaviour, blah blah.. Please do tell me when the councils bottom wiping service starts?[/p][/quote]I think you will find Richard that they get shed loads of money from central goverment and the EU to persue these activities.....[/p][/quote]*pursue*.... ;-) O'Reilly
  • Score: 1

1:10am Mon 10 Mar 14

s-pb2 says...

Richard 1976 wrote:
Why does our council fiddle around with such unimportant money wasting projects? Is it just to keep folk in the town hall in jobs? I wonder! So many things need sorting in bournemouth I don't see where putting slops in a brown bucket comes into the list of priorities? Clearly above encouraging redevelopment in the town centre, sorting out the pigs ear of a road system, tackling anti social behaviour, blah blah.. Please do tell me when the councils bottom wiping service starts?
Im very glad you arent in charge of the council because id put caring for the elderly, helping people with mental health issues and people with disabilities and keeping safe children who have suffered from neglect and abuse above redeveloping the town centre!
[quote][p][bold]Richard 1976[/bold] wrote: Why does our council fiddle around with such unimportant money wasting projects? Is it just to keep folk in the town hall in jobs? I wonder! So many things need sorting in bournemouth I don't see where putting slops in a brown bucket comes into the list of priorities? Clearly above encouraging redevelopment in the town centre, sorting out the pigs ear of a road system, tackling anti social behaviour, blah blah.. Please do tell me when the councils bottom wiping service starts?[/p][/quote]Im very glad you arent in charge of the council because id put caring for the elderly, helping people with mental health issues and people with disabilities and keeping safe children who have suffered from neglect and abuse above redeveloping the town centre! s-pb2
  • Score: 2

1:11am Mon 10 Mar 14

s-pb2 says...

alanhl wrote:
when these bins were delivered the label said store until March, start of March? middle of March? end of March? it did not say when to start using them. a complete ****-up by those in charge
This is when i feel sorry for the council when they have to deal with people like you.
[quote][p][bold]alanhl[/bold] wrote: when these bins were delivered the label said store until March, start of March? middle of March? end of March? it did not say when to start using them. a complete ****-up by those in charge[/p][/quote]This is when i feel sorry for the council when they have to deal with people like you. s-pb2
  • Score: 4

3:01am Mon 10 Mar 14

Nigel Blumenthal says...

@rozmister:

"Do you understand how Bournemouth's food waste collections work? "

Sorry but no; we live in a flat, and they're just starting to introduce trial schemes for flat-dwellers. Sadly, I have no detailed knowledge of the domestic scheme for houses; I was just going by what I read here.
@rozmister: "Do you understand how Bournemouth's food waste collections work? " Sorry but no; we live in a flat, and they're just starting to introduce trial schemes for flat-dwellers. Sadly, I have no detailed knowledge of the domestic scheme for houses; I was just going by what I read here. Nigel Blumenthal
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2:50pm Mon 10 Mar 14

speedy231278 says...

So, let me get this straight.... some clever person decided to put rubbish bins inside rubbish bins, then there's a ****-up when the contents of the bin get thrown away, including the second bin? I think the person who devised such a stupid scheme ought to personally fish these bins out of the landfill. Surely such a thing was inevitable?
So, let me get this straight.... some clever person decided to put rubbish bins inside rubbish bins, then there's a ****-up when the contents of the bin get thrown away, including the second bin? I think the person who devised such a stupid scheme ought to personally fish these bins out of the landfill. Surely such a thing was inevitable? speedy231278
  • Score: 5

8:46pm Mon 10 Mar 14

rozmister says...

Nigel Blumenthal wrote:
@rozmister:

"Do you understand how Bournemouth's food waste collections work? "

Sorry but no; we live in a flat, and they're just starting to introduce trial schemes for flat-dwellers. Sadly, I have no detailed knowledge of the domestic scheme for houses; I was just going by what I read here.
If you visit the council's website it's all explained on there. It also explains how flats can get food waste collections, it's not a 'trial scheme' any flats with communal bins can opt in and as long as their managing agents give permission and a site visit by the council is ok the flats get food waste collctions.
[quote][p][bold]Nigel Blumenthal[/bold] wrote: @rozmister: "Do you understand how Bournemouth's food waste collections work? " Sorry but no; we live in a flat, and they're just starting to introduce trial schemes for flat-dwellers. Sadly, I have no detailed knowledge of the domestic scheme for houses; I was just going by what I read here.[/p][/quote]If you visit the council's website it's all explained on there. It also explains how flats can get food waste collections, it's not a 'trial scheme' any flats with communal bins can opt in and as long as their managing agents give permission and a site visit by the council is ok the flats get food waste collctions. rozmister
  • Score: 1

8:11pm Tue 11 Mar 14

The Barrel says...

I am NOT IN THE LEAST SURPRISED at this monumental **** up of the council's bin men. It is NOT a new problem. Our binmen are a real lazy dozey lot of pillocks. On 3 separate occasions in the last couple of years they have literally TAKEN RECYCLING TO THE ULTIMATE LIMIT - BY TAKING THE RECYCLING BOXES AND BINS AWAY IN THE BACK OF THE DUSTCART ASWELL!!! Both myself and my neighbour's bins have been subjected to the same fate causing us both to have to hot-foot it up the road to ask for our bins back, only to be greeted with the usual BLANK/THE LIGHTS ARE ON BUT THERE'S NO-ONE AT HOME look from these gormless morons, telling us that they've "put them in the back of the lorry coz they thought they were for recycling - "DER"!!!! SO INFURIATING> It's not rocket science! So no surprise for their latest low achievements whatsoever. Utterly useless and a persistent waste of tax payers money. (And patience)
I am NOT IN THE LEAST SURPRISED at this monumental **** up of the council's bin men. It is NOT a new problem. Our binmen are a real lazy dozey lot of pillocks. On 3 separate occasions in the last couple of years they have literally TAKEN RECYCLING TO THE ULTIMATE LIMIT - BY TAKING THE RECYCLING BOXES AND BINS AWAY IN THE BACK OF THE DUSTCART ASWELL!!! Both myself and my neighbour's bins have been subjected to the same fate causing us both to have to hot-foot it up the road to ask for our bins back, only to be greeted with the usual BLANK/THE LIGHTS ARE ON BUT THERE'S NO-ONE AT HOME look from these gormless morons, telling us that they've "put them in the back of the lorry coz they thought they were for recycling - "DER"!!!! SO INFURIATING> It's not rocket science! So no surprise for their latest low achievements whatsoever. Utterly useless and a persistent waste of tax payers money. (And patience) The Barrel
  • Score: -2

11:50am Wed 12 Mar 14

JackJohnson says...

s-pb2 wrote:
alanhl wrote:
when these bins were delivered the label said store until March, start of March? middle of March? end of March? it did not say when to start using them. a complete ****-up by those in charge
This is when i feel sorry for the council when they have to deal with people like you.
It's not unreasonable to expect to be told the exact date a change to a weekly service is to be introduced.
[quote][p][bold]s-pb2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alanhl[/bold] wrote: when these bins were delivered the label said store until March, start of March? middle of March? end of March? it did not say when to start using them. a complete ****-up by those in charge[/p][/quote]This is when i feel sorry for the council when they have to deal with people like you.[/p][/quote]It's not unreasonable to expect to be told the exact date a change to a weekly service is to be introduced. JackJohnson
  • Score: 1

12:16pm Wed 12 Mar 14

JackJohnson says...

chridrum wrote:
Sadly this is not one of Bournemouth's finest schemes.
The concept is good and well tested by other councils, so why has this gone so wrong?
It seems to be the one size fits all and everyone wants it implementation method.
So I for example with a family of 5 vegetable & fruit munching adults have a full bin half way through the week just with peelings and real waste. In order to get a larger bin I have to be interviewed about my food waste habits...... What are they going to advise eat less fruit & veg, get a compost bin ( already have one), get someone to move out? On the other hand my elderly next door neighbour who lives alone has exactly the same bin.

So here is the real problem.
Bournemouth is cluttered with bins due to millions of flats. Why don't flats have communal bins? In fact why don't we get rid of household bins and do what the French do, take all your rubbish to communal bins. Surely that saves money and then there is the capacity for all households with the added incentive to reduce waste because you have to get it to the communal bins yourself.

Nothing that sensible/radical will happen, so to solve the current problem:-

I doubt the poor bin men have been allocated extra time to do this new round. Even if they have surely it's more sensible to place the brown bin on top of your small bin on collection day to make their life easier. (Bending down for small bins will be a back killer)
Please could the council just give a larger bin to households requesting one, we don't need you to waste your time and ours coming to interview us.

It will be interesting to see how this develops ....
I think it's easy to predict one direction this will develop,

Before long a microchip will be fitted to each bin. It will uniquely associate that bin with your household. When the bin is emptied, by the iifting gear on the back of the lorry, it will automatically be weighed and the weight recorded. When the lorry is emptied the data will be downloaded to a billing system and you will be required to pay, periodically, for your household waste.

Watch out for kerbside wars with neighbours who transfer waste from their bins to their neighbours bins on collection day.
[quote][p][bold]chridrum[/bold] wrote: Sadly this is not one of Bournemouth's finest schemes. The concept is good and well tested by other councils, so why has this gone so wrong? It seems to be the one size fits all and everyone wants it implementation method. So I for example with a family of 5 vegetable & fruit munching adults have a full bin half way through the week just with peelings and real waste. In order to get a larger bin I have to be interviewed about my food waste habits...... What are they going to advise eat less fruit & veg, get a compost bin ( already have one), get someone to move out? On the other hand my elderly next door neighbour who lives alone has exactly the same bin. So here is the real problem. Bournemouth is cluttered with bins due to millions of flats. Why don't flats have communal bins? In fact why don't we get rid of household bins and do what the French do, take all your rubbish to communal bins. Surely that saves money and then there is the capacity for all households with the added incentive to reduce waste because you have to get it to the communal bins yourself. Nothing that sensible/radical will happen, so to solve the current problem:- I doubt the poor bin men have been allocated extra time to do this new round. Even if they have surely it's more sensible to place the brown bin on top of your small bin on collection day to make their life easier. (Bending down for small bins will be a back killer) Please could the council just give a larger bin to households requesting one, we don't need you to waste your time and ours coming to interview us. It will be interesting to see how this develops ....[/p][/quote]I think it's easy to predict one direction this will develop, Before long a microchip will be fitted to each bin. It will uniquely associate that bin with your household. When the bin is emptied, by the iifting gear on the back of the lorry, it will automatically be weighed and the weight recorded. When the lorry is emptied the data will be downloaded to a billing system and you will be required to pay, periodically, for your household waste. Watch out for kerbside wars with neighbours who transfer waste from their bins to their neighbours bins on collection day. JackJohnson
  • Score: 0

12:52pm Wed 12 Mar 14

The Barrel says...

Its all very well Jack Johnson saying why don't we adopt the French method of delivering bags of our own rubbish to communal bin sites. What if you don't drive and the communal bins are too far away to drag a heavy bag? Bit short sited this. Don't see why also, that we should get charged extra for the amount of waste we dispose of - we already pay heavily for this service in our Council Tax. I'm damned if I'm gonna pay twice!
Its all very well Jack Johnson saying why don't we adopt the French method of delivering bags of our own rubbish to communal bin sites. What if you don't drive and the communal bins are too far away to drag a heavy bag? Bit short sited this. Don't see why also, that we should get charged extra for the amount of waste we dispose of - we already pay heavily for this service in our Council Tax. I'm damned if I'm gonna pay twice! The Barrel
  • Score: 0

1:52pm Wed 12 Mar 14

JackJohnson says...

The Barrel wrote:
Its all very well Jack Johnson saying why don't we adopt the French method of delivering bags of our own rubbish to communal bin sites. What if you don't drive and the communal bins are too far away to drag a heavy bag? Bit short sited this. Don't see why also, that we should get charged extra for the amount of waste we dispose of - we already pay heavily for this service in our Council Tax. I'm damned if I'm gonna pay twice!
Can you let me know where I suggested this?

Just curious.
[quote][p][bold]The Barrel[/bold] wrote: Its all very well Jack Johnson saying why don't we adopt the French method of delivering bags of our own rubbish to communal bin sites. What if you don't drive and the communal bins are too far away to drag a heavy bag? Bit short sited this. Don't see why also, that we should get charged extra for the amount of waste we dispose of - we already pay heavily for this service in our Council Tax. I'm damned if I'm gonna pay twice![/p][/quote]Can you let me know where I suggested this? Just curious. JackJohnson
  • Score: 0

1:57pm Wed 12 Mar 14

The Barrel says...

pen-ultimate paragraph "so here is the real problem"
pen-ultimate paragraph "so here is the real problem" The Barrel
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2:07pm Wed 12 Mar 14

JackJohnson says...

The Barrel wrote:
pen-ultimate paragraph "so here is the real problem"
Ah. That would be Chridrum you're quoting.
[quote][p][bold]The Barrel[/bold] wrote: pen-ultimate paragraph "so here is the real problem"[/p][/quote]Ah. That would be Chridrum you're quoting. JackJohnson
  • Score: 0

9:35am Fri 14 Mar 14

rozmister says...

The Barrel wrote:
Its all very well Jack Johnson saying why don't we adopt the French method of delivering bags of our own rubbish to communal bin sites. What if you don't drive and the communal bins are too far away to drag a heavy bag? Bit short sited this. Don't see why also, that we should get charged extra for the amount of waste we dispose of - we already pay heavily for this service in our Council Tax. I'm damned if I'm gonna pay twice!
If you look at the council tax leaflet you received last year the amount of budget allocated to waste & recycling collections is £1.34 on average per household per week. That's a tiny amount of money to deliver a weekly rubbish collection and a fortnightly recycling collection plus green waste, etc - Bournemouth residents definitely don't pay heavily for it!
[quote][p][bold]The Barrel[/bold] wrote: Its all very well Jack Johnson saying why don't we adopt the French method of delivering bags of our own rubbish to communal bin sites. What if you don't drive and the communal bins are too far away to drag a heavy bag? Bit short sited this. Don't see why also, that we should get charged extra for the amount of waste we dispose of - we already pay heavily for this service in our Council Tax. I'm damned if I'm gonna pay twice![/p][/quote]If you look at the council tax leaflet you received last year the amount of budget allocated to waste & recycling collections is £1.34 on average per household per week. That's a tiny amount of money to deliver a weekly rubbish collection and a fortnightly recycling collection plus green waste, etc - Bournemouth residents definitely don't pay heavily for it! rozmister
  • Score: 0

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