Wiggle Cycling event boss aiming to calm nerves in New Forest

Bournemouth Echo: Organiser of controversial New Forest cycling event trying to calm fears about latest ride Organiser of controversial New Forest cycling event trying to calm fears about latest ride

THE man behind a controversial series of mass cycle rides in the New Forest has sought to calm fears surrounding the next event.

Martin Barden, director of UK Cycling Events, outlined a series of measures aimed at preventing the Wiggle New Forest Spring Sportive from sparking another round of protests.

It follows months of controversy over the problems caused by thousands of riders taking part in Wiggle events in the Forest.

Riders have been accused of endangering the safety of walkers and horse riders, swearing at motorists and even defecating at the roadside.

Most of the previous events have been based in the Brockenhurst area, including New Park – home of the New Forest Show.

But organisers were banned from the site last year after a pony round-up on neighbouring land was cancelled on safety grounds.

UK Cycling Events has now decided to use Matchams Leisure Park, sparking fears that Ringwood will experience the same sort of problems seen in other parts of the district. But Mr Barden sought to placate his critics at a meeting of Ringwood Town Council.

Outlining plans to stage the Spring Sportive on April 12 and 13, he pledged that extra marshals would be deployed in a bid to prevent cyclists from causing any upset.

He also said the numbers worn by riders would be more visible, making it easier for any bad behaviour to be reported and dealt with.

The number of entrants would be limited to 2,500, although the figure on the day was more likely to be about 1,800, councillors were told.

Mr Barden said organisers would refrain from publishing individual finish times in a bid to reduce any competiveness among the cyclists.

He was joined at the meeting by Steve Avery, director of park services at the New Forest National Park Authority.

Mr Avery listed the steps taken in response to criticism of previous mass cycling events.

He confirmed that a cyclists’ code had already been agreed and a charter was due to be published by the end of the year.

But councillors warned that cyclists would pass through one of the most built-up parts of Ringwood in the middle of the Easter holidays.

Cllr Neville Chard said he strongly objected to the event, claiming it was not in the interests of his constituents.

However, Mr Barden said cyclists were told to obey the Highway Code as well as observing the event’s terms and conditions.

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8:54am Thu 6 Mar 14

Franks Tank says...

"Even defecating at the roadside".
Ah, the fictitious Godshill stool raised its ugly head again.
A turd that was only discovered a month after the event.
Strange that.
"Even defecating at the roadside". Ah, the fictitious Godshill stool raised its ugly head again. A turd that was only discovered a month after the event. Strange that. Franks Tank
  • Score: 5

9:05am Thu 6 Mar 14

thevoiceofreason1 says...

these events should not be allowed as they pose a risk to everyone else due to the idiocy of many cyclists in the way they believe they own the road due to the mass publicity in the last few years.
at the last one i came to a junction and indicated to turn left at which point a mass of riders poured passed me on the inside and i received a torrent of abuse for trying to turn left and blocking there way.
what if we got 2500 car drivers to race round the county?
soon have the police out handing out fines for various offences.
its about time cyclists were registered in some way so they can be identified and made responsible for there actions
these events should not be allowed as they pose a risk to everyone else due to the idiocy of many cyclists in the way they believe they own the road due to the mass publicity in the last few years. at the last one i came to a junction and indicated to turn left at which point a mass of riders poured passed me on the inside and i received a torrent of abuse for trying to turn left and blocking there way. what if we got 2500 car drivers to race round the county? soon have the police out handing out fines for various offences. its about time cyclists were registered in some way so they can be identified and made responsible for there actions thevoiceofreason1
  • Score: -1

9:12am Thu 6 Mar 14

suzigirl says...

thevoiceofreason1 wrote:
these events should not be allowed as they pose a risk to everyone else due to the idiocy of many cyclists in the way they believe they own the road due to the mass publicity in the last few years. at the last one i came to a junction and indicated to turn left at which point a mass of riders poured passed me on the inside and i received a torrent of abuse for trying to turn left and blocking there way. what if we got 2500 car drivers to race round the county? soon have the police out handing out fines for various offences. its about time cyclists were registered in some way so they can be identified and made responsible for there actions
Totally agree with you and as for the cyclists obeying the Highway Code - don't make me laugh!
[quote][p][bold]thevoiceofreason1[/bold] wrote: these events should not be allowed as they pose a risk to everyone else due to the idiocy of many cyclists in the way they believe they own the road due to the mass publicity in the last few years. at the last one i came to a junction and indicated to turn left at which point a mass of riders poured passed me on the inside and i received a torrent of abuse for trying to turn left and blocking there way. what if we got 2500 car drivers to race round the county? soon have the police out handing out fines for various offences. its about time cyclists were registered in some way so they can be identified and made responsible for there actions[/p][/quote]Totally agree with you and as for the cyclists obeying the Highway Code - don't make me laugh! suzigirl
  • Score: -8

9:12am Thu 6 Mar 14

suzigirl says...

Franks Tank wrote:
"Even defecating at the roadside". Ah, the fictitious Godshill stool raised its ugly head again. A turd that was only discovered a month after the event. Strange that.
Did they discover you a month after the event then?
[quote][p][bold]Franks Tank[/bold] wrote: "Even defecating at the roadside". Ah, the fictitious Godshill stool raised its ugly head again. A turd that was only discovered a month after the event. Strange that.[/p][/quote]Did they discover you a month after the event then? suzigirl
  • Score: -21

9:17am Thu 6 Mar 14

jobsworthwatch says...

thevoiceofreason1 wrote:
these events should not be allowed as they pose a risk to everyone else due to the idiocy of many cyclists in the way they believe they own the road due to the mass publicity in the last few years.
at the last one i came to a junction and indicated to turn left at which point a mass of riders poured passed me on the inside and i received a torrent of abuse for trying to turn left and blocking there way.
what if we got 2500 car drivers to race round the county?
soon have the police out handing out fines for various offences.
its about time cyclists were registered in some way so they can be identified and made responsible for there actions
The damage done, and the danger to all, posed by 2500 car drivers 'racing around the county' would be orders of magnitude greater than that posed by cyclists.
[quote][p][bold]thevoiceofreason1[/bold] wrote: these events should not be allowed as they pose a risk to everyone else due to the idiocy of many cyclists in the way they believe they own the road due to the mass publicity in the last few years. at the last one i came to a junction and indicated to turn left at which point a mass of riders poured passed me on the inside and i received a torrent of abuse for trying to turn left and blocking there way. what if we got 2500 car drivers to race round the county? soon have the police out handing out fines for various offences. its about time cyclists were registered in some way so they can be identified and made responsible for there actions[/p][/quote]The damage done, and the danger to all, posed by 2500 car drivers 'racing around the county' would be orders of magnitude greater than that posed by cyclists. jobsworthwatch
  • Score: 9

9:24am Thu 6 Mar 14

thevoiceofreason1 says...

jobsworthwatch wrote:
thevoiceofreason1 wrote:
these events should not be allowed as they pose a risk to everyone else due to the idiocy of many cyclists in the way they believe they own the road due to the mass publicity in the last few years.
at the last one i came to a junction and indicated to turn left at which point a mass of riders poured passed me on the inside and i received a torrent of abuse for trying to turn left and blocking there way.
what if we got 2500 car drivers to race round the county?
soon have the police out handing out fines for various offences.
its about time cyclists were registered in some way so they can be identified and made responsible for there actions
The damage done, and the danger to all, posed by 2500 car drivers 'racing around the county' would be orders of magnitude greater than that posed by cyclists.
wrong a cyclist can easily cause an accident just as serious as a car.
example-cyclist swerves,car driver attempts to avoid cyclist,car driver then loses control and hits a group of pedestrians.
seems to be the same order of magnitude to me.
oh and when it happens the car drivers insurance company will be there to pay out.
and the cyclist...oh thats ok the car drivers insurance will still end up pazing for it!
[quote][p][bold]jobsworthwatch[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thevoiceofreason1[/bold] wrote: these events should not be allowed as they pose a risk to everyone else due to the idiocy of many cyclists in the way they believe they own the road due to the mass publicity in the last few years. at the last one i came to a junction and indicated to turn left at which point a mass of riders poured passed me on the inside and i received a torrent of abuse for trying to turn left and blocking there way. what if we got 2500 car drivers to race round the county? soon have the police out handing out fines for various offences. its about time cyclists were registered in some way so they can be identified and made responsible for there actions[/p][/quote]The damage done, and the danger to all, posed by 2500 car drivers 'racing around the county' would be orders of magnitude greater than that posed by cyclists.[/p][/quote]wrong a cyclist can easily cause an accident just as serious as a car. example-cyclist swerves,car driver attempts to avoid cyclist,car driver then loses control and hits a group of pedestrians. seems to be the same order of magnitude to me. oh and when it happens the car drivers insurance company will be there to pay out. and the cyclist...oh thats ok the car drivers insurance will still end up pazing for it! thevoiceofreason1
  • Score: -5

9:25am Thu 6 Mar 14

jobsworthwatch says...

thevoiceofreason1 wrote:
jobsworthwatch wrote:
thevoiceofreason1 wrote:
these events should not be allowed as they pose a risk to everyone else due to the idiocy of many cyclists in the way they believe they own the road due to the mass publicity in the last few years.
at the last one i came to a junction and indicated to turn left at which point a mass of riders poured passed me on the inside and i received a torrent of abuse for trying to turn left and blocking there way.
what if we got 2500 car drivers to race round the county?
soon have the police out handing out fines for various offences.
its about time cyclists were registered in some way so they can be identified and made responsible for there actions
The damage done, and the danger to all, posed by 2500 car drivers 'racing around the county' would be orders of magnitude greater than that posed by cyclists.
wrong a cyclist can easily cause an accident just as serious as a car.
example-cyclist swerves,car driver attempts to avoid cyclist,car driver then loses control and hits a group of pedestrians.
seems to be the same order of magnitude to me.
oh and when it happens the car drivers insurance company will be there to pay out.
and the cyclist...oh thats ok the car drivers insurance will still end up pazing for it!
What a load of bollards, go check the statistics.
[quote][p][bold]thevoiceofreason1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jobsworthwatch[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thevoiceofreason1[/bold] wrote: these events should not be allowed as they pose a risk to everyone else due to the idiocy of many cyclists in the way they believe they own the road due to the mass publicity in the last few years. at the last one i came to a junction and indicated to turn left at which point a mass of riders poured passed me on the inside and i received a torrent of abuse for trying to turn left and blocking there way. what if we got 2500 car drivers to race round the county? soon have the police out handing out fines for various offences. its about time cyclists were registered in some way so they can be identified and made responsible for there actions[/p][/quote]The damage done, and the danger to all, posed by 2500 car drivers 'racing around the county' would be orders of magnitude greater than that posed by cyclists.[/p][/quote]wrong a cyclist can easily cause an accident just as serious as a car. example-cyclist swerves,car driver attempts to avoid cyclist,car driver then loses control and hits a group of pedestrians. seems to be the same order of magnitude to me. oh and when it happens the car drivers insurance company will be there to pay out. and the cyclist...oh thats ok the car drivers insurance will still end up pazing for it![/p][/quote]What a load of bollards, go check the statistics. jobsworthwatch
  • Score: 5

9:44am Thu 6 Mar 14

boardsandphotos says...

thevoiceofreason1 wrote:
jobsworthwatch wrote:
thevoiceofreason1 wrote:
these events should not be allowed as they pose a risk to everyone else due to the idiocy of many cyclists in the way they believe they own the road due to the mass publicity in the last few years.
at the last one i came to a junction and indicated to turn left at which point a mass of riders poured passed me on the inside and i received a torrent of abuse for trying to turn left and blocking there way.
what if we got 2500 car drivers to race round the county?
soon have the police out handing out fines for various offences.
its about time cyclists were registered in some way so they can be identified and made responsible for there actions
The damage done, and the danger to all, posed by 2500 car drivers 'racing around the county' would be orders of magnitude greater than that posed by cyclists.
wrong a cyclist can easily cause an accident just as serious as a car.
example-cyclist swerves,car driver attempts to avoid cyclist,car driver then loses control and hits a group of pedestrians.
seems to be the same order of magnitude to me.
oh and when it happens the car drivers insurance company will be there to pay out.
and the cyclist...oh thats ok the car drivers insurance will still end up pazing for it!
A car hitting a group of pedestrians is going to cause a lot more damage than a cycle hitting the same group. The risk of serious injury or damage to pedestrians, property and wildlife would also be far higher in a car race, which was the point.
[quote][p][bold]thevoiceofreason1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jobsworthwatch[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thevoiceofreason1[/bold] wrote: these events should not be allowed as they pose a risk to everyone else due to the idiocy of many cyclists in the way they believe they own the road due to the mass publicity in the last few years. at the last one i came to a junction and indicated to turn left at which point a mass of riders poured passed me on the inside and i received a torrent of abuse for trying to turn left and blocking there way. what if we got 2500 car drivers to race round the county? soon have the police out handing out fines for various offences. its about time cyclists were registered in some way so they can be identified and made responsible for there actions[/p][/quote]The damage done, and the danger to all, posed by 2500 car drivers 'racing around the county' would be orders of magnitude greater than that posed by cyclists.[/p][/quote]wrong a cyclist can easily cause an accident just as serious as a car. example-cyclist swerves,car driver attempts to avoid cyclist,car driver then loses control and hits a group of pedestrians. seems to be the same order of magnitude to me. oh and when it happens the car drivers insurance company will be there to pay out. and the cyclist...oh thats ok the car drivers insurance will still end up pazing for it![/p][/quote]A car hitting a group of pedestrians is going to cause a lot more damage than a cycle hitting the same group. The risk of serious injury or damage to pedestrians, property and wildlife would also be far higher in a car race, which was the point. boardsandphotos
  • Score: 8

9:46am Thu 6 Mar 14

The-Bleeding-Obvious says...

thevoiceofreason1 wrote:
jobsworthwatch wrote:
thevoiceofreason1 wrote:
these events should not be allowed as they pose a risk to everyone else due to the idiocy of many cyclists in the way they believe they own the road due to the mass publicity in the last few years.
at the last one i came to a junction and indicated to turn left at which point a mass of riders poured passed me on the inside and i received a torrent of abuse for trying to turn left and blocking there way.
what if we got 2500 car drivers to race round the county?
soon have the police out handing out fines for various offences.
its about time cyclists were registered in some way so they can be identified and made responsible for there actions
The damage done, and the danger to all, posed by 2500 car drivers 'racing around the county' would be orders of magnitude greater than that posed by cyclists.
wrong a cyclist can easily cause an accident just as serious as a car.
example-cyclist swerves,car driver attempts to avoid cyclist,car driver then loses control and hits a group of pedestrians.
seems to be the same order of magnitude to me.
oh and when it happens the car drivers insurance company will be there to pay out.
and the cyclist...oh thats ok the car drivers insurance will still end up pazing for it!
Wrong.....much more likely.....
Example:- car swerves, cyclist attempts to avoid car, cyclist then loses control and hits a group of pedestrians. Cyclist comes off bike and breaks collar bone, group of pedestrians are largely unharmed. Car driver drives off without stopping.
[quote][p][bold]thevoiceofreason1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jobsworthwatch[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thevoiceofreason1[/bold] wrote: these events should not be allowed as they pose a risk to everyone else due to the idiocy of many cyclists in the way they believe they own the road due to the mass publicity in the last few years. at the last one i came to a junction and indicated to turn left at which point a mass of riders poured passed me on the inside and i received a torrent of abuse for trying to turn left and blocking there way. what if we got 2500 car drivers to race round the county? soon have the police out handing out fines for various offences. its about time cyclists were registered in some way so they can be identified and made responsible for there actions[/p][/quote]The damage done, and the danger to all, posed by 2500 car drivers 'racing around the county' would be orders of magnitude greater than that posed by cyclists.[/p][/quote]wrong a cyclist can easily cause an accident just as serious as a car. example-cyclist swerves,car driver attempts to avoid cyclist,car driver then loses control and hits a group of pedestrians. seems to be the same order of magnitude to me. oh and when it happens the car drivers insurance company will be there to pay out. and the cyclist...oh thats ok the car drivers insurance will still end up pazing for it![/p][/quote]Wrong.....much more likely..... Example:- car swerves, cyclist attempts to avoid car, cyclist then loses control and hits a group of pedestrians. Cyclist comes off bike and breaks collar bone, group of pedestrians are largely unharmed. Car driver drives off without stopping. The-Bleeding-Obvious
  • Score: 16

9:53am Thu 6 Mar 14

thevoiceofreason1 says...

jobsworthwatch wrote:
thevoiceofreason1 wrote:
jobsworthwatch wrote:
thevoiceofreason1 wrote:
these events should not be allowed as they pose a risk to everyone else due to the idiocy of many cyclists in the way they believe they own the road due to the mass publicity in the last few years.
at the last one i came to a junction and indicated to turn left at which point a mass of riders poured passed me on the inside and i received a torrent of abuse for trying to turn left and blocking there way.
what if we got 2500 car drivers to race round the county?
soon have the police out handing out fines for various offences.
its about time cyclists were registered in some way so they can be identified and made responsible for there actions
The damage done, and the danger to all, posed by 2500 car drivers 'racing around the county' would be orders of magnitude greater than that posed by cyclists.
wrong a cyclist can easily cause an accident just as serious as a car.
example-cyclist swerves,car driver attempts to avoid cyclist,car driver then loses control and hits a group of pedestrians.
seems to be the same order of magnitude to me.
oh and when it happens the car drivers insurance company will be there to pay out.
and the cyclist...oh thats ok the car drivers insurance will still end up pazing for it!
What a load of bollards, go check the statistics.
i quote "There are lies, damned lies and statistics."
they can be made to say anything,i base what i say on over a million miles driven in the last 20 years...with no accidents with fault attributed to me.
this week alone i have twice nearly had cyclist across the bonnet of the car when pulling up to a junction as they shoot across from one pavement to the other and turning right into a main rd to meet one riding down the middle of the wrong side of the road with no lights.
the second caused me to take major evasive action close to a busy bus stop,if it had been wet it could have been nasty.
i do not need statistics for what i can see with my own eyes!
[quote][p][bold]jobsworthwatch[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thevoiceofreason1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jobsworthwatch[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thevoiceofreason1[/bold] wrote: these events should not be allowed as they pose a risk to everyone else due to the idiocy of many cyclists in the way they believe they own the road due to the mass publicity in the last few years. at the last one i came to a junction and indicated to turn left at which point a mass of riders poured passed me on the inside and i received a torrent of abuse for trying to turn left and blocking there way. what if we got 2500 car drivers to race round the county? soon have the police out handing out fines for various offences. its about time cyclists were registered in some way so they can be identified and made responsible for there actions[/p][/quote]The damage done, and the danger to all, posed by 2500 car drivers 'racing around the county' would be orders of magnitude greater than that posed by cyclists.[/p][/quote]wrong a cyclist can easily cause an accident just as serious as a car. example-cyclist swerves,car driver attempts to avoid cyclist,car driver then loses control and hits a group of pedestrians. seems to be the same order of magnitude to me. oh and when it happens the car drivers insurance company will be there to pay out. and the cyclist...oh thats ok the car drivers insurance will still end up pazing for it![/p][/quote]What a load of bollards, go check the statistics.[/p][/quote]i quote "There are lies, damned lies and statistics." they can be made to say anything,i base what i say on over a million miles driven in the last 20 years...with no accidents with fault attributed to me. this week alone i have twice nearly had cyclist across the bonnet of the car when pulling up to a junction as they shoot across from one pavement to the other and turning right into a main rd to meet one riding down the middle of the wrong side of the road with no lights. the second caused me to take major evasive action close to a busy bus stop,if it had been wet it could have been nasty. i do not need statistics for what i can see with my own eyes! thevoiceofreason1
  • Score: -7

9:56am Thu 6 Mar 14

thevoiceofreason1 says...

boardsandphotos wrote:
thevoiceofreason1 wrote:
jobsworthwatch wrote:
thevoiceofreason1 wrote:
these events should not be allowed as they pose a risk to everyone else due to the idiocy of many cyclists in the way they believe they own the road due to the mass publicity in the last few years.
at the last one i came to a junction and indicated to turn left at which point a mass of riders poured passed me on the inside and i received a torrent of abuse for trying to turn left and blocking there way.
what if we got 2500 car drivers to race round the county?
soon have the police out handing out fines for various offences.
its about time cyclists were registered in some way so they can be identified and made responsible for there actions
The damage done, and the danger to all, posed by 2500 car drivers 'racing around the county' would be orders of magnitude greater than that posed by cyclists.
wrong a cyclist can easily cause an accident just as serious as a car.
example-cyclist swerves,car driver attempts to avoid cyclist,car driver then loses control and hits a group of pedestrians.
seems to be the same order of magnitude to me.
oh and when it happens the car drivers insurance company will be there to pay out.
and the cyclist...oh thats ok the car drivers insurance will still end up pazing for it!
A car hitting a group of pedestrians is going to cause a lot more damage than a cycle hitting the same group. The risk of serious injury or damage to pedestrians, property and wildlife would also be far higher in a car race, which was the point.
oh so it is a race now...something that is illegal for every other form of transport on the public highway....i guess that is obviously ok as they are cyclists....
[quote][p][bold]boardsandphotos[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thevoiceofreason1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jobsworthwatch[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thevoiceofreason1[/bold] wrote: these events should not be allowed as they pose a risk to everyone else due to the idiocy of many cyclists in the way they believe they own the road due to the mass publicity in the last few years. at the last one i came to a junction and indicated to turn left at which point a mass of riders poured passed me on the inside and i received a torrent of abuse for trying to turn left and blocking there way. what if we got 2500 car drivers to race round the county? soon have the police out handing out fines for various offences. its about time cyclists were registered in some way so they can be identified and made responsible for there actions[/p][/quote]The damage done, and the danger to all, posed by 2500 car drivers 'racing around the county' would be orders of magnitude greater than that posed by cyclists.[/p][/quote]wrong a cyclist can easily cause an accident just as serious as a car. example-cyclist swerves,car driver attempts to avoid cyclist,car driver then loses control and hits a group of pedestrians. seems to be the same order of magnitude to me. oh and when it happens the car drivers insurance company will be there to pay out. and the cyclist...oh thats ok the car drivers insurance will still end up pazing for it![/p][/quote]A car hitting a group of pedestrians is going to cause a lot more damage than a cycle hitting the same group. The risk of serious injury or damage to pedestrians, property and wildlife would also be far higher in a car race, which was the point.[/p][/quote]oh so it is a race now...something that is illegal for every other form of transport on the public highway....i guess that is obviously ok as they are cyclists.... thevoiceofreason1
  • Score: -5

10:08am Thu 6 Mar 14

The-Bleeding-Obvious says...

thevoiceofreason1 wrote:
jobsworthwatch wrote:
thevoiceofreason1 wrote:
jobsworthwatch wrote:
thevoiceofreason1 wrote:
these events should not be allowed as they pose a risk to everyone else due to the idiocy of many cyclists in the way they believe they own the road due to the mass publicity in the last few years.
at the last one i came to a junction and indicated to turn left at which point a mass of riders poured passed me on the inside and i received a torrent of abuse for trying to turn left and blocking there way.
what if we got 2500 car drivers to race round the county?
soon have the police out handing out fines for various offences.
its about time cyclists were registered in some way so they can be identified and made responsible for there actions
The damage done, and the danger to all, posed by 2500 car drivers 'racing around the county' would be orders of magnitude greater than that posed by cyclists.
wrong a cyclist can easily cause an accident just as serious as a car.
example-cyclist swerves,car driver attempts to avoid cyclist,car driver then loses control and hits a group of pedestrians.
seems to be the same order of magnitude to me.
oh and when it happens the car drivers insurance company will be there to pay out.
and the cyclist...oh thats ok the car drivers insurance will still end up pazing for it!
What a load of bollards, go check the statistics.
i quote "There are lies, damned lies and statistics."
they can be made to say anything,i base what i say on over a million miles driven in the last 20 years...with no accidents with fault attributed to me.
this week alone i have twice nearly had cyclist across the bonnet of the car when pulling up to a junction as they shoot across from one pavement to the other and turning right into a main rd to meet one riding down the middle of the wrong side of the road with no lights.
the second caused me to take major evasive action close to a busy bus stop,if it had been wet it could have been nasty.
i do not need statistics for what i can see with my own eyes!
You don't understand statistics.
Perhaps I should have said check the facts and figures and STATISTICALLY you will see that motor vehicles cause, and are to blame, for much more death and destruction than cyclists.
[quote][p][bold]thevoiceofreason1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jobsworthwatch[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thevoiceofreason1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jobsworthwatch[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thevoiceofreason1[/bold] wrote: these events should not be allowed as they pose a risk to everyone else due to the idiocy of many cyclists in the way they believe they own the road due to the mass publicity in the last few years. at the last one i came to a junction and indicated to turn left at which point a mass of riders poured passed me on the inside and i received a torrent of abuse for trying to turn left and blocking there way. what if we got 2500 car drivers to race round the county? soon have the police out handing out fines for various offences. its about time cyclists were registered in some way so they can be identified and made responsible for there actions[/p][/quote]The damage done, and the danger to all, posed by 2500 car drivers 'racing around the county' would be orders of magnitude greater than that posed by cyclists.[/p][/quote]wrong a cyclist can easily cause an accident just as serious as a car. example-cyclist swerves,car driver attempts to avoid cyclist,car driver then loses control and hits a group of pedestrians. seems to be the same order of magnitude to me. oh and when it happens the car drivers insurance company will be there to pay out. and the cyclist...oh thats ok the car drivers insurance will still end up pazing for it![/p][/quote]What a load of bollards, go check the statistics.[/p][/quote]i quote "There are lies, damned lies and statistics." they can be made to say anything,i base what i say on over a million miles driven in the last 20 years...with no accidents with fault attributed to me. this week alone i have twice nearly had cyclist across the bonnet of the car when pulling up to a junction as they shoot across from one pavement to the other and turning right into a main rd to meet one riding down the middle of the wrong side of the road with no lights. the second caused me to take major evasive action close to a busy bus stop,if it had been wet it could have been nasty. i do not need statistics for what i can see with my own eyes![/p][/quote]You don't understand statistics. Perhaps I should have said check the facts and figures and STATISTICALLY you will see that motor vehicles cause, and are to blame, for much more death and destruction than cyclists. The-Bleeding-Obvious
  • Score: 10

10:13am Thu 6 Mar 14

Franks Tank says...

suzigirl wrote:
Franks Tank wrote:
"Even defecating at the roadside". Ah, the fictitious Godshill stool raised its ugly head again. A turd that was only discovered a month after the event. Strange that.
Did they discover you a month after the event then?
I really don't understand this trolling comment.
[quote][p][bold]suzigirl[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Franks Tank[/bold] wrote: "Even defecating at the roadside". Ah, the fictitious Godshill stool raised its ugly head again. A turd that was only discovered a month after the event. Strange that.[/p][/quote]Did they discover you a month after the event then?[/p][/quote]I really don't understand this trolling comment. Franks Tank
  • Score: 6

10:17am Thu 6 Mar 14

thevoiceofreason1 says...

The-Bleeding-Obvious wrote:
thevoiceofreason1 wrote:
jobsworthwatch wrote:
thevoiceofreason1 wrote:
jobsworthwatch wrote:
thevoiceofreason1 wrote:
these events should not be allowed as they pose a risk to everyone else due to the idiocy of many cyclists in the way they believe they own the road due to the mass publicity in the last few years.
at the last one i came to a junction and indicated to turn left at which point a mass of riders poured passed me on the inside and i received a torrent of abuse for trying to turn left and blocking there way.
what if we got 2500 car drivers to race round the county?
soon have the police out handing out fines for various offences.
its about time cyclists were registered in some way so they can be identified and made responsible for there actions
The damage done, and the danger to all, posed by 2500 car drivers 'racing around the county' would be orders of magnitude greater than that posed by cyclists.
wrong a cyclist can easily cause an accident just as serious as a car.
example-cyclist swerves,car driver attempts to avoid cyclist,car driver then loses control and hits a group of pedestrians.
seems to be the same order of magnitude to me.
oh and when it happens the car drivers insurance company will be there to pay out.
and the cyclist...oh thats ok the car drivers insurance will still end up pazing for it!
What a load of bollards, go check the statistics.
i quote "There are lies, damned lies and statistics."
they can be made to say anything,i base what i say on over a million miles driven in the last 20 years...with no accidents with fault attributed to me.
this week alone i have twice nearly had cyclist across the bonnet of the car when pulling up to a junction as they shoot across from one pavement to the other and turning right into a main rd to meet one riding down the middle of the wrong side of the road with no lights.
the second caused me to take major evasive action close to a busy bus stop,if it had been wet it could have been nasty.
i do not need statistics for what i can see with my own eyes!
You don't understand statistics.
Perhaps I should have said check the facts and figures and STATISTICALLY you will see that motor vehicles cause, and are to blame, for much more death and destruction than cyclists.
no i understand statistics but they can be made to say pretty much anything and seen as there are far more car drivers on the road it would seem obvious to me that there would be far more accidents attributed to them.
but then again that is LOGIC something you obviously do not understand.
[quote][p][bold]The-Bleeding-Obvious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thevoiceofreason1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jobsworthwatch[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thevoiceofreason1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jobsworthwatch[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thevoiceofreason1[/bold] wrote: these events should not be allowed as they pose a risk to everyone else due to the idiocy of many cyclists in the way they believe they own the road due to the mass publicity in the last few years. at the last one i came to a junction and indicated to turn left at which point a mass of riders poured passed me on the inside and i received a torrent of abuse for trying to turn left and blocking there way. what if we got 2500 car drivers to race round the county? soon have the police out handing out fines for various offences. its about time cyclists were registered in some way so they can be identified and made responsible for there actions[/p][/quote]The damage done, and the danger to all, posed by 2500 car drivers 'racing around the county' would be orders of magnitude greater than that posed by cyclists.[/p][/quote]wrong a cyclist can easily cause an accident just as serious as a car. example-cyclist swerves,car driver attempts to avoid cyclist,car driver then loses control and hits a group of pedestrians. seems to be the same order of magnitude to me. oh and when it happens the car drivers insurance company will be there to pay out. and the cyclist...oh thats ok the car drivers insurance will still end up pazing for it![/p][/quote]What a load of bollards, go check the statistics.[/p][/quote]i quote "There are lies, damned lies and statistics." they can be made to say anything,i base what i say on over a million miles driven in the last 20 years...with no accidents with fault attributed to me. this week alone i have twice nearly had cyclist across the bonnet of the car when pulling up to a junction as they shoot across from one pavement to the other and turning right into a main rd to meet one riding down the middle of the wrong side of the road with no lights. the second caused me to take major evasive action close to a busy bus stop,if it had been wet it could have been nasty. i do not need statistics for what i can see with my own eyes![/p][/quote]You don't understand statistics. Perhaps I should have said check the facts and figures and STATISTICALLY you will see that motor vehicles cause, and are to blame, for much more death and destruction than cyclists.[/p][/quote]no i understand statistics but they can be made to say pretty much anything and seen as there are far more car drivers on the road it would seem obvious to me that there would be far more accidents attributed to them. but then again that is LOGIC something you obviously do not understand. thevoiceofreason1
  • Score: -7

10:36am Thu 6 Mar 14

TobyB1960 says...

O'dear the anti-cycling trolls are out again. Perhaps if they got out of their darkened bedsits and got some fresh air they might have a different point of view.
O'dear the anti-cycling trolls are out again. Perhaps if they got out of their darkened bedsits and got some fresh air they might have a different point of view. TobyB1960
  • Score: 7

10:41am Thu 6 Mar 14

boardsandphotos says...

thevoiceofreason1 wrote:
boardsandphotos wrote:
thevoiceofreason1 wrote:
jobsworthwatch wrote:
thevoiceofreason1 wrote:
these events should not be allowed as they pose a risk to everyone else due to the idiocy of many cyclists in the way they believe they own the road due to the mass publicity in the last few years.
at the last one i came to a junction and indicated to turn left at which point a mass of riders poured passed me on the inside and i received a torrent of abuse for trying to turn left and blocking there way.
what if we got 2500 car drivers to race round the county?
soon have the police out handing out fines for various offences.
its about time cyclists were registered in some way so they can be identified and made responsible for there actions
The damage done, and the danger to all, posed by 2500 car drivers 'racing around the county' would be orders of magnitude greater than that posed by cyclists.
wrong a cyclist can easily cause an accident just as serious as a car.
example-cyclist swerves,car driver attempts to avoid cyclist,car driver then loses control and hits a group of pedestrians.
seems to be the same order of magnitude to me.
oh and when it happens the car drivers insurance company will be there to pay out.
and the cyclist...oh thats ok the car drivers insurance will still end up pazing for it!
A car hitting a group of pedestrians is going to cause a lot more damage than a cycle hitting the same group. The risk of serious injury or damage to pedestrians, property and wildlife would also be far higher in a car race, which was the point.
oh so it is a race now...something that is illegal for every other form of transport on the public highway....i guess that is obviously ok as they are cyclists....
Race, Rally, Event, Festival......whatev
er you want to call it.

Humans by their very nature are competitive, you can be pedantic if you want but my point still stands, a car, for whatever reason, would cause more damage than a cyclist.

That's not semantics or statistics. That's Physics.......
[quote][p][bold]thevoiceofreason1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]boardsandphotos[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thevoiceofreason1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jobsworthwatch[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thevoiceofreason1[/bold] wrote: these events should not be allowed as they pose a risk to everyone else due to the idiocy of many cyclists in the way they believe they own the road due to the mass publicity in the last few years. at the last one i came to a junction and indicated to turn left at which point a mass of riders poured passed me on the inside and i received a torrent of abuse for trying to turn left and blocking there way. what if we got 2500 car drivers to race round the county? soon have the police out handing out fines for various offences. its about time cyclists were registered in some way so they can be identified and made responsible for there actions[/p][/quote]The damage done, and the danger to all, posed by 2500 car drivers 'racing around the county' would be orders of magnitude greater than that posed by cyclists.[/p][/quote]wrong a cyclist can easily cause an accident just as serious as a car. example-cyclist swerves,car driver attempts to avoid cyclist,car driver then loses control and hits a group of pedestrians. seems to be the same order of magnitude to me. oh and when it happens the car drivers insurance company will be there to pay out. and the cyclist...oh thats ok the car drivers insurance will still end up pazing for it![/p][/quote]A car hitting a group of pedestrians is going to cause a lot more damage than a cycle hitting the same group. The risk of serious injury or damage to pedestrians, property and wildlife would also be far higher in a car race, which was the point.[/p][/quote]oh so it is a race now...something that is illegal for every other form of transport on the public highway....i guess that is obviously ok as they are cyclists....[/p][/quote]Race, Rally, Event, Festival......whatev er you want to call it. Humans by their very nature are competitive, you can be pedantic if you want but my point still stands, a car, for whatever reason, would cause more damage than a cyclist. That's not semantics or statistics. That's Physics....... boardsandphotos
  • Score: 2

10:42am Thu 6 Mar 14

suzigirl says...

TobyB1960 wrote:
O'dear the anti-cycling trolls are out again. Perhaps if they got out of their darkened bedsits and got some fresh air they might have a different point of view.
Oh the cycling trolls are out again - YAWNNN
[quote][p][bold]TobyB1960[/bold] wrote: O'dear the anti-cycling trolls are out again. Perhaps if they got out of their darkened bedsits and got some fresh air they might have a different point of view.[/p][/quote]Oh the cycling trolls are out again - YAWNNN suzigirl
  • Score: -11

10:52am Thu 6 Mar 14

The-Bleeding-Obvious says...

thevoiceofreason1 wrote:
The-Bleeding-Obvious wrote:
thevoiceofreason1 wrote:
jobsworthwatch wrote:
thevoiceofreason1 wrote:
jobsworthwatch wrote:
thevoiceofreason1 wrote:
these events should not be allowed as they pose a risk to everyone else due to the idiocy of many cyclists in the way they believe they own the road due to the mass publicity in the last few years.
at the last one i came to a junction and indicated to turn left at which point a mass of riders poured passed me on the inside and i received a torrent of abuse for trying to turn left and blocking there way.
what if we got 2500 car drivers to race round the county?
soon have the police out handing out fines for various offences.
its about time cyclists were registered in some way so they can be identified and made responsible for there actions
The damage done, and the danger to all, posed by 2500 car drivers 'racing around the county' would be orders of magnitude greater than that posed by cyclists.
wrong a cyclist can easily cause an accident just as serious as a car.
example-cyclist swerves,car driver attempts to avoid cyclist,car driver then loses control and hits a group of pedestrians.
seems to be the same order of magnitude to me.
oh and when it happens the car drivers insurance company will be there to pay out.
and the cyclist...oh thats ok the car drivers insurance will still end up pazing for it!
What a load of bollards, go check the statistics.
i quote "There are lies, damned lies and statistics."
they can be made to say anything,i base what i say on over a million miles driven in the last 20 years...with no accidents with fault attributed to me.
this week alone i have twice nearly had cyclist across the bonnet of the car when pulling up to a junction as they shoot across from one pavement to the other and turning right into a main rd to meet one riding down the middle of the wrong side of the road with no lights.
the second caused me to take major evasive action close to a busy bus stop,if it had been wet it could have been nasty.
i do not need statistics for what i can see with my own eyes!
You don't understand statistics.
Perhaps I should have said check the facts and figures and STATISTICALLY you will see that motor vehicles cause, and are to blame, for much more death and destruction than cyclists.
no i understand statistics but they can be made to say pretty much anything and seen as there are far more car drivers on the road it would seem obvious to me that there would be far more accidents attributed to them.
but then again that is LOGIC something you obviously do not understand.
Ok there are more car drivers than cyclists so to make it simple for you, cars cause much more death and destruction per incident than cyclists. How's that for logic?
[quote][p][bold]thevoiceofreason1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The-Bleeding-Obvious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thevoiceofreason1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jobsworthwatch[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thevoiceofreason1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jobsworthwatch[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thevoiceofreason1[/bold] wrote: these events should not be allowed as they pose a risk to everyone else due to the idiocy of many cyclists in the way they believe they own the road due to the mass publicity in the last few years. at the last one i came to a junction and indicated to turn left at which point a mass of riders poured passed me on the inside and i received a torrent of abuse for trying to turn left and blocking there way. what if we got 2500 car drivers to race round the county? soon have the police out handing out fines for various offences. its about time cyclists were registered in some way so they can be identified and made responsible for there actions[/p][/quote]The damage done, and the danger to all, posed by 2500 car drivers 'racing around the county' would be orders of magnitude greater than that posed by cyclists.[/p][/quote]wrong a cyclist can easily cause an accident just as serious as a car. example-cyclist swerves,car driver attempts to avoid cyclist,car driver then loses control and hits a group of pedestrians. seems to be the same order of magnitude to me. oh and when it happens the car drivers insurance company will be there to pay out. and the cyclist...oh thats ok the car drivers insurance will still end up pazing for it![/p][/quote]What a load of bollards, go check the statistics.[/p][/quote]i quote "There are lies, damned lies and statistics." they can be made to say anything,i base what i say on over a million miles driven in the last 20 years...with no accidents with fault attributed to me. this week alone i have twice nearly had cyclist across the bonnet of the car when pulling up to a junction as they shoot across from one pavement to the other and turning right into a main rd to meet one riding down the middle of the wrong side of the road with no lights. the second caused me to take major evasive action close to a busy bus stop,if it had been wet it could have been nasty. i do not need statistics for what i can see with my own eyes![/p][/quote]You don't understand statistics. Perhaps I should have said check the facts and figures and STATISTICALLY you will see that motor vehicles cause, and are to blame, for much more death and destruction than cyclists.[/p][/quote]no i understand statistics but they can be made to say pretty much anything and seen as there are far more car drivers on the road it would seem obvious to me that there would be far more accidents attributed to them. but then again that is LOGIC something you obviously do not understand.[/p][/quote]Ok there are more car drivers than cyclists so to make it simple for you, cars cause much more death and destruction per incident than cyclists. How's that for logic? The-Bleeding-Obvious
  • Score: 6

10:55am Thu 6 Mar 14

The-Bleeding-Obvious says...

The-Bleeding-Obvious wrote:
thevoiceofreason1 wrote:
The-Bleeding-Obvious wrote:
thevoiceofreason1 wrote:
jobsworthwatch wrote:
thevoiceofreason1 wrote:
jobsworthwatch wrote:
thevoiceofreason1 wrote:
these events should not be allowed as they pose a risk to everyone else due to the idiocy of many cyclists in the way they believe they own the road due to the mass publicity in the last few years.
at the last one i came to a junction and indicated to turn left at which point a mass of riders poured passed me on the inside and i received a torrent of abuse for trying to turn left and blocking there way.
what if we got 2500 car drivers to race round the county?
soon have the police out handing out fines for various offences.
its about time cyclists were registered in some way so they can be identified and made responsible for there actions
The damage done, and the danger to all, posed by 2500 car drivers 'racing around the county' would be orders of magnitude greater than that posed by cyclists.
wrong a cyclist can easily cause an accident just as serious as a car.
example-cyclist swerves,car driver attempts to avoid cyclist,car driver then loses control and hits a group of pedestrians.
seems to be the same order of magnitude to me.
oh and when it happens the car drivers insurance company will be there to pay out.
and the cyclist...oh thats ok the car drivers insurance will still end up pazing for it!
What a load of bollards, go check the statistics.
i quote "There are lies, damned lies and statistics."
they can be made to say anything,i base what i say on over a million miles driven in the last 20 years...with no accidents with fault attributed to me.
this week alone i have twice nearly had cyclist across the bonnet of the car when pulling up to a junction as they shoot across from one pavement to the other and turning right into a main rd to meet one riding down the middle of the wrong side of the road with no lights.
the second caused me to take major evasive action close to a busy bus stop,if it had been wet it could have been nasty.
i do not need statistics for what i can see with my own eyes!
You don't understand statistics.
Perhaps I should have said check the facts and figures and STATISTICALLY you will see that motor vehicles cause, and are to blame, for much more death and destruction than cyclists.
no i understand statistics but they can be made to say pretty much anything and seen as there are far more car drivers on the road it would seem obvious to me that there would be far more accidents attributed to them.
but then again that is LOGIC something you obviously do not understand.
Ok there are more car drivers than cyclists so to make it simple for you, cars cause much more death and destruction per incident than cyclists. How's that for logic?
@ 'thevoiceofreason1', I think you should seriously consider changing your user name.
[quote][p][bold]The-Bleeding-Obvious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thevoiceofreason1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The-Bleeding-Obvious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thevoiceofreason1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jobsworthwatch[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thevoiceofreason1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jobsworthwatch[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thevoiceofreason1[/bold] wrote: these events should not be allowed as they pose a risk to everyone else due to the idiocy of many cyclists in the way they believe they own the road due to the mass publicity in the last few years. at the last one i came to a junction and indicated to turn left at which point a mass of riders poured passed me on the inside and i received a torrent of abuse for trying to turn left and blocking there way. what if we got 2500 car drivers to race round the county? soon have the police out handing out fines for various offences. its about time cyclists were registered in some way so they can be identified and made responsible for there actions[/p][/quote]The damage done, and the danger to all, posed by 2500 car drivers 'racing around the county' would be orders of magnitude greater than that posed by cyclists.[/p][/quote]wrong a cyclist can easily cause an accident just as serious as a car. example-cyclist swerves,car driver attempts to avoid cyclist,car driver then loses control and hits a group of pedestrians. seems to be the same order of magnitude to me. oh and when it happens the car drivers insurance company will be there to pay out. and the cyclist...oh thats ok the car drivers insurance will still end up pazing for it![/p][/quote]What a load of bollards, go check the statistics.[/p][/quote]i quote "There are lies, damned lies and statistics." they can be made to say anything,i base what i say on over a million miles driven in the last 20 years...with no accidents with fault attributed to me. this week alone i have twice nearly had cyclist across the bonnet of the car when pulling up to a junction as they shoot across from one pavement to the other and turning right into a main rd to meet one riding down the middle of the wrong side of the road with no lights. the second caused me to take major evasive action close to a busy bus stop,if it had been wet it could have been nasty. i do not need statistics for what i can see with my own eyes![/p][/quote]You don't understand statistics. Perhaps I should have said check the facts and figures and STATISTICALLY you will see that motor vehicles cause, and are to blame, for much more death and destruction than cyclists.[/p][/quote]no i understand statistics but they can be made to say pretty much anything and seen as there are far more car drivers on the road it would seem obvious to me that there would be far more accidents attributed to them. but then again that is LOGIC something you obviously do not understand.[/p][/quote]Ok there are more car drivers than cyclists so to make it simple for you, cars cause much more death and destruction per incident than cyclists. How's that for logic?[/p][/quote]@ 'thevoiceofreason1', I think you should seriously consider changing your user name. The-Bleeding-Obvious
  • Score: 7

11:08am Thu 6 Mar 14

thevoiceofreason1 says...

TobyB1960 wrote:
O'dear the anti-cycling trolls are out again. Perhaps if they got out of their darkened bedsits and got some fresh air they might have a different point of view.
what an intelligent comment...try reading posts from the beginning.
"over a million miles in the last 20 years" i think i might have to get out to do that...IDIOT.
incidentally i own my own home outright and have my own business.
[quote][p][bold]TobyB1960[/bold] wrote: O'dear the anti-cycling trolls are out again. Perhaps if they got out of their darkened bedsits and got some fresh air they might have a different point of view.[/p][/quote]what an intelligent comment...try reading posts from the beginning. "over a million miles in the last 20 years" i think i might have to get out to do that...IDIOT. incidentally i own my own home outright and have my own business. thevoiceofreason1
  • Score: -16

11:11am Thu 6 Mar 14

thevoiceofreason1 says...

The-Bleeding-Obvious wrote:
thevoiceofreason1 wrote:
The-Bleeding-Obvious wrote:
thevoiceofreason1 wrote:
jobsworthwatch wrote:
thevoiceofreason1 wrote:
jobsworthwatch wrote:
thevoiceofreason1 wrote:
these events should not be allowed as they pose a risk to everyone else due to the idiocy of many cyclists in the way they believe they own the road due to the mass publicity in the last few years.
at the last one i came to a junction and indicated to turn left at which point a mass of riders poured passed me on the inside and i received a torrent of abuse for trying to turn left and blocking there way.
what if we got 2500 car drivers to race round the county?
soon have the police out handing out fines for various offences.
its about time cyclists were registered in some way so they can be identified and made responsible for there actions
The damage done, and the danger to all, posed by 2500 car drivers 'racing around the county' would be orders of magnitude greater than that posed by cyclists.
wrong a cyclist can easily cause an accident just as serious as a car.
example-cyclist swerves,car driver attempts to avoid cyclist,car driver then loses control and hits a group of pedestrians.
seems to be the same order of magnitude to me.
oh and when it happens the car drivers insurance company will be there to pay out.
and the cyclist...oh thats ok the car drivers insurance will still end up pazing for it!
What a load of bollards, go check the statistics.
i quote "There are lies, damned lies and statistics."
they can be made to say anything,i base what i say on over a million miles driven in the last 20 years...with no accidents with fault attributed to me.
this week alone i have twice nearly had cyclist across the bonnet of the car when pulling up to a junction as they shoot across from one pavement to the other and turning right into a main rd to meet one riding down the middle of the wrong side of the road with no lights.
the second caused me to take major evasive action close to a busy bus stop,if it had been wet it could have been nasty.
i do not need statistics for what i can see with my own eyes!
You don't understand statistics.
Perhaps I should have said check the facts and figures and STATISTICALLY you will see that motor vehicles cause, and are to blame, for much more death and destruction than cyclists.
no i understand statistics but they can be made to say pretty much anything and seen as there are far more car drivers on the road it would seem obvious to me that there would be far more accidents attributed to them.
but then again that is LOGIC something you obviously do not understand.
Ok there are more car drivers than cyclists so to make it simple for you, cars cause much more death and destruction per incident than cyclists. How's that for logic?
not proved in any way,even your STATISTICS do not infer this
[quote][p][bold]The-Bleeding-Obvious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thevoiceofreason1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The-Bleeding-Obvious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thevoiceofreason1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jobsworthwatch[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thevoiceofreason1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jobsworthwatch[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thevoiceofreason1[/bold] wrote: these events should not be allowed as they pose a risk to everyone else due to the idiocy of many cyclists in the way they believe they own the road due to the mass publicity in the last few years. at the last one i came to a junction and indicated to turn left at which point a mass of riders poured passed me on the inside and i received a torrent of abuse for trying to turn left and blocking there way. what if we got 2500 car drivers to race round the county? soon have the police out handing out fines for various offences. its about time cyclists were registered in some way so they can be identified and made responsible for there actions[/p][/quote]The damage done, and the danger to all, posed by 2500 car drivers 'racing around the county' would be orders of magnitude greater than that posed by cyclists.[/p][/quote]wrong a cyclist can easily cause an accident just as serious as a car. example-cyclist swerves,car driver attempts to avoid cyclist,car driver then loses control and hits a group of pedestrians. seems to be the same order of magnitude to me. oh and when it happens the car drivers insurance company will be there to pay out. and the cyclist...oh thats ok the car drivers insurance will still end up pazing for it![/p][/quote]What a load of bollards, go check the statistics.[/p][/quote]i quote "There are lies, damned lies and statistics." they can be made to say anything,i base what i say on over a million miles driven in the last 20 years...with no accidents with fault attributed to me. this week alone i have twice nearly had cyclist across the bonnet of the car when pulling up to a junction as they shoot across from one pavement to the other and turning right into a main rd to meet one riding down the middle of the wrong side of the road with no lights. the second caused me to take major evasive action close to a busy bus stop,if it had been wet it could have been nasty. i do not need statistics for what i can see with my own eyes![/p][/quote]You don't understand statistics. Perhaps I should have said check the facts and figures and STATISTICALLY you will see that motor vehicles cause, and are to blame, for much more death and destruction than cyclists.[/p][/quote]no i understand statistics but they can be made to say pretty much anything and seen as there are far more car drivers on the road it would seem obvious to me that there would be far more accidents attributed to them. but then again that is LOGIC something you obviously do not understand.[/p][/quote]Ok there are more car drivers than cyclists so to make it simple for you, cars cause much more death and destruction per incident than cyclists. How's that for logic?[/p][/quote]not proved in any way,even your STATISTICS do not infer this thevoiceofreason1
  • Score: -8

11:25am Thu 6 Mar 14

joeinpoole says...

suzigirl wrote:
thevoiceofreason1 wrote:
these events should not be allowed as they pose a risk to everyone else due to the idiocy of many cyclists in the way they believe they own the road due to the mass publicity in the last few years. at the last one i came to a junction and indicated to turn left at which point a mass of riders poured passed me on the inside and i received a torrent of abuse for trying to turn left and blocking there way. what if we got 2500 car drivers to race round the county? soon have the police out handing out fines for various offences. its about time cyclists were registered in some way so they can be identified and made responsible for there actions
Totally agree with you and as for the cyclists obeying the Highway Code - don't make me laugh!
I thought you were in favour of motorcyclists riding at speeds of 80mph+ on country roads? Where's that in the Highway Code?
[quote][p][bold]suzigirl[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thevoiceofreason1[/bold] wrote: these events should not be allowed as they pose a risk to everyone else due to the idiocy of many cyclists in the way they believe they own the road due to the mass publicity in the last few years. at the last one i came to a junction and indicated to turn left at which point a mass of riders poured passed me on the inside and i received a torrent of abuse for trying to turn left and blocking there way. what if we got 2500 car drivers to race round the county? soon have the police out handing out fines for various offences. its about time cyclists were registered in some way so they can be identified and made responsible for there actions[/p][/quote]Totally agree with you and as for the cyclists obeying the Highway Code - don't make me laugh![/p][/quote]I thought you were in favour of motorcyclists riding at speeds of 80mph+ on country roads? Where's that in the Highway Code? joeinpoole
  • Score: 10

11:47am Thu 6 Mar 14

The-Bleeding-Obvious says...

thevoiceofreason1 wrote:
The-Bleeding-Obvious wrote:
thevoiceofreason1 wrote:
The-Bleeding-Obvious wrote:
thevoiceofreason1 wrote:
jobsworthwatch wrote:
thevoiceofreason1 wrote:
jobsworthwatch wrote:
thevoiceofreason1 wrote:
these events should not be allowed as they pose a risk to everyone else due to the idiocy of many cyclists in the way they believe they own the road due to the mass publicity in the last few years.
at the last one i came to a junction and indicated to turn left at which point a mass of riders poured passed me on the inside and i received a torrent of abuse for trying to turn left and blocking there way.
what if we got 2500 car drivers to race round the county?
soon have the police out handing out fines for various offences.
its about time cyclists were registered in some way so they can be identified and made responsible for there actions
The damage done, and the danger to all, posed by 2500 car drivers 'racing around the county' would be orders of magnitude greater than that posed by cyclists.
wrong a cyclist can easily cause an accident just as serious as a car.
example-cyclist swerves,car driver attempts to avoid cyclist,car driver then loses control and hits a group of pedestrians.
seems to be the same order of magnitude to me.
oh and when it happens the car drivers insurance company will be there to pay out.
and the cyclist...oh thats ok the car drivers insurance will still end up pazing for it!
What a load of bollards, go check the statistics.
i quote "There are lies, damned lies and statistics."
they can be made to say anything,i base what i say on over a million miles driven in the last 20 years...with no accidents with fault attributed to me.
this week alone i have twice nearly had cyclist across the bonnet of the car when pulling up to a junction as they shoot across from one pavement to the other and turning right into a main rd to meet one riding down the middle of the wrong side of the road with no lights.
the second caused me to take major evasive action close to a busy bus stop,if it had been wet it could have been nasty.
i do not need statistics for what i can see with my own eyes!
You don't understand statistics.
Perhaps I should have said check the facts and figures and STATISTICALLY you will see that motor vehicles cause, and are to blame, for much more death and destruction than cyclists.
no i understand statistics but they can be made to say pretty much anything and seen as there are far more car drivers on the road it would seem obvious to me that there would be far more accidents attributed to them.
but then again that is LOGIC something you obviously do not understand.
Ok there are more car drivers than cyclists so to make it simple for you, cars cause much more death and destruction per incident than cyclists. How's that for logic?
not proved in any way,even your STATISTICS do not infer this
OMG you're a no hoper.
[quote][p][bold]thevoiceofreason1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The-Bleeding-Obvious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thevoiceofreason1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The-Bleeding-Obvious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thevoiceofreason1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jobsworthwatch[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thevoiceofreason1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jobsworthwatch[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thevoiceofreason1[/bold] wrote: these events should not be allowed as they pose a risk to everyone else due to the idiocy of many cyclists in the way they believe they own the road due to the mass publicity in the last few years. at the last one i came to a junction and indicated to turn left at which point a mass of riders poured passed me on the inside and i received a torrent of abuse for trying to turn left and blocking there way. what if we got 2500 car drivers to race round the county? soon have the police out handing out fines for various offences. its about time cyclists were registered in some way so they can be identified and made responsible for there actions[/p][/quote]The damage done, and the danger to all, posed by 2500 car drivers 'racing around the county' would be orders of magnitude greater than that posed by cyclists.[/p][/quote]wrong a cyclist can easily cause an accident just as serious as a car. example-cyclist swerves,car driver attempts to avoid cyclist,car driver then loses control and hits a group of pedestrians. seems to be the same order of magnitude to me. oh and when it happens the car drivers insurance company will be there to pay out. and the cyclist...oh thats ok the car drivers insurance will still end up pazing for it![/p][/quote]What a load of bollards, go check the statistics.[/p][/quote]i quote "There are lies, damned lies and statistics." they can be made to say anything,i base what i say on over a million miles driven in the last 20 years...with no accidents with fault attributed to me. this week alone i have twice nearly had cyclist across the bonnet of the car when pulling up to a junction as they shoot across from one pavement to the other and turning right into a main rd to meet one riding down the middle of the wrong side of the road with no lights. the second caused me to take major evasive action close to a busy bus stop,if it had been wet it could have been nasty. i do not need statistics for what i can see with my own eyes![/p][/quote]You don't understand statistics. Perhaps I should have said check the facts and figures and STATISTICALLY you will see that motor vehicles cause, and are to blame, for much more death and destruction than cyclists.[/p][/quote]no i understand statistics but they can be made to say pretty much anything and seen as there are far more car drivers on the road it would seem obvious to me that there would be far more accidents attributed to them. but then again that is LOGIC something you obviously do not understand.[/p][/quote]Ok there are more car drivers than cyclists so to make it simple for you, cars cause much more death and destruction per incident than cyclists. How's that for logic?[/p][/quote]not proved in any way,even your STATISTICS do not infer this[/p][/quote]OMG you're a no hoper. The-Bleeding-Obvious
  • Score: 5

12:28pm Thu 6 Mar 14

skydriver says...

They were told to obey the Highway Code, that indicates they don't usually, and we have all seen that, riding on the pathway, jumping traffic lights, total disregard for other road users and so on. I think enough said.
They were told to obey the Highway Code, that indicates they don't usually, and we have all seen that, riding on the pathway, jumping traffic lights, total disregard for other road users and so on. I think enough said. skydriver
  • Score: -5

12:41pm Thu 6 Mar 14

thevoiceofreason1 says...

The-Bleeding-Obvious wrote:
thevoiceofreason1 wrote:
The-Bleeding-Obvious wrote:
thevoiceofreason1 wrote:
The-Bleeding-Obvious wrote:
thevoiceofreason1 wrote:
jobsworthwatch wrote:
thevoiceofreason1 wrote:
jobsworthwatch wrote:
thevoiceofreason1 wrote:
these events should not be allowed as they pose a risk to everyone else due to the idiocy of many cyclists in the way they believe they own the road due to the mass publicity in the last few years.
at the last one i came to a junction and indicated to turn left at which point a mass of riders poured passed me on the inside and i received a torrent of abuse for trying to turn left and blocking there way.
what if we got 2500 car drivers to race round the county?
soon have the police out handing out fines for various offences.
its about time cyclists were registered in some way so they can be identified and made responsible for there actions
The damage done, and the danger to all, posed by 2500 car drivers 'racing around the county' would be orders of magnitude greater than that posed by cyclists.
wrong a cyclist can easily cause an accident just as serious as a car.
example-cyclist swerves,car driver attempts to avoid cyclist,car driver then loses control and hits a group of pedestrians.
seems to be the same order of magnitude to me.
oh and when it happens the car drivers insurance company will be there to pay out.
and the cyclist...oh thats ok the car drivers insurance will still end up pazing for it!
What a load of bollards, go check the statistics.
i quote "There are lies, damned lies and statistics."
they can be made to say anything,i base what i say on over a million miles driven in the last 20 years...with no accidents with fault attributed to me.
this week alone i have twice nearly had cyclist across the bonnet of the car when pulling up to a junction as they shoot across from one pavement to the other and turning right into a main rd to meet one riding down the middle of the wrong side of the road with no lights.
the second caused me to take major evasive action close to a busy bus stop,if it had been wet it could have been nasty.
i do not need statistics for what i can see with my own eyes!
You don't understand statistics.
Perhaps I should have said check the facts and figures and STATISTICALLY you will see that motor vehicles cause, and are to blame, for much more death and destruction than cyclists.
no i understand statistics but they can be made to say pretty much anything and seen as there are far more car drivers on the road it would seem obvious to me that there would be far more accidents attributed to them.
but then again that is LOGIC something you obviously do not understand.
Ok there are more car drivers than cyclists so to make it simple for you, cars cause much more death and destruction per incident than cyclists. How's that for logic?
not proved in any way,even your STATISTICS do not infer this
OMG you're a no hoper.
and you have made it bleeding obvious you are a TROLL
[quote][p][bold]The-Bleeding-Obvious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thevoiceofreason1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The-Bleeding-Obvious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thevoiceofreason1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The-Bleeding-Obvious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thevoiceofreason1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jobsworthwatch[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thevoiceofreason1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jobsworthwatch[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thevoiceofreason1[/bold] wrote: these events should not be allowed as they pose a risk to everyone else due to the idiocy of many cyclists in the way they believe they own the road due to the mass publicity in the last few years. at the last one i came to a junction and indicated to turn left at which point a mass of riders poured passed me on the inside and i received a torrent of abuse for trying to turn left and blocking there way. what if we got 2500 car drivers to race round the county? soon have the police out handing out fines for various offences. its about time cyclists were registered in some way so they can be identified and made responsible for there actions[/p][/quote]The damage done, and the danger to all, posed by 2500 car drivers 'racing around the county' would be orders of magnitude greater than that posed by cyclists.[/p][/quote]wrong a cyclist can easily cause an accident just as serious as a car. example-cyclist swerves,car driver attempts to avoid cyclist,car driver then loses control and hits a group of pedestrians. seems to be the same order of magnitude to me. oh and when it happens the car drivers insurance company will be there to pay out. and the cyclist...oh thats ok the car drivers insurance will still end up pazing for it![/p][/quote]What a load of bollards, go check the statistics.[/p][/quote]i quote "There are lies, damned lies and statistics." they can be made to say anything,i base what i say on over a million miles driven in the last 20 years...with no accidents with fault attributed to me. this week alone i have twice nearly had cyclist across the bonnet of the car when pulling up to a junction as they shoot across from one pavement to the other and turning right into a main rd to meet one riding down the middle of the wrong side of the road with no lights. the second caused me to take major evasive action close to a busy bus stop,if it had been wet it could have been nasty. i do not need statistics for what i can see with my own eyes![/p][/quote]You don't understand statistics. Perhaps I should have said check the facts and figures and STATISTICALLY you will see that motor vehicles cause, and are to blame, for much more death and destruction than cyclists.[/p][/quote]no i understand statistics but they can be made to say pretty much anything and seen as there are far more car drivers on the road it would seem obvious to me that there would be far more accidents attributed to them. but then again that is LOGIC something you obviously do not understand.[/p][/quote]Ok there are more car drivers than cyclists so to make it simple for you, cars cause much more death and destruction per incident than cyclists. How's that for logic?[/p][/quote]not proved in any way,even your STATISTICS do not infer this[/p][/quote]OMG you're a no hoper.[/p][/quote]and you have made it bleeding obvious you are a TROLL thevoiceofreason1
  • Score: -10

12:54pm Thu 6 Mar 14

jobsworthwatch says...

thevoiceofreason1 wrote:
TobyB1960 wrote:
O'dear the anti-cycling trolls are out again. Perhaps if they got out of their darkened bedsits and got some fresh air they might have a different point of view.
what an intelligent comment...try reading posts from the beginning.
"over a million miles in the last 20 years" i think i might have to get out to do that...IDIOT.
incidentally i own my own home outright and have my own business.
Blimey that's 50,000 miles a year, hope you're not texting your comments while you're driving!
[quote][p][bold]thevoiceofreason1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TobyB1960[/bold] wrote: O'dear the anti-cycling trolls are out again. Perhaps if they got out of their darkened bedsits and got some fresh air they might have a different point of view.[/p][/quote]what an intelligent comment...try reading posts from the beginning. "over a million miles in the last 20 years" i think i might have to get out to do that...IDIOT. incidentally i own my own home outright and have my own business.[/p][/quote]Blimey that's 50,000 miles a year, hope you're not texting your comments while you're driving! jobsworthwatch
  • Score: 12

1:03pm Thu 6 Mar 14

The-Bleeding-Obvious says...

thevoiceofreason1 wrote:
The-Bleeding-Obvious wrote:
thevoiceofreason1 wrote:
The-Bleeding-Obvious wrote:
thevoiceofreason1 wrote:
The-Bleeding-Obvious wrote:
thevoiceofreason1 wrote:
jobsworthwatch wrote:
thevoiceofreason1 wrote:
jobsworthwatch wrote:
thevoiceofreason1 wrote:
these events should not be allowed as they pose a risk to everyone else due to the idiocy of many cyclists in the way they believe they own the road due to the mass publicity in the last few years.
at the last one i came to a junction and indicated to turn left at which point a mass of riders poured passed me on the inside and i received a torrent of abuse for trying to turn left and blocking there way.
what if we got 2500 car drivers to race round the county?
soon have the police out handing out fines for various offences.
its about time cyclists were registered in some way so they can be identified and made responsible for there actions
The damage done, and the danger to all, posed by 2500 car drivers 'racing around the county' would be orders of magnitude greater than that posed by cyclists.
wrong a cyclist can easily cause an accident just as serious as a car.
example-cyclist swerves,car driver attempts to avoid cyclist,car driver then loses control and hits a group of pedestrians.
seems to be the same order of magnitude to me.
oh and when it happens the car drivers insurance company will be there to pay out.
and the cyclist...oh thats ok the car drivers insurance will still end up pazing for it!
What a load of bollards, go check the statistics.
i quote "There are lies, damned lies and statistics."
they can be made to say anything,i base what i say on over a million miles driven in the last 20 years...with no accidents with fault attributed to me.
this week alone i have twice nearly had cyclist across the bonnet of the car when pulling up to a junction as they shoot across from one pavement to the other and turning right into a main rd to meet one riding down the middle of the wrong side of the road with no lights.
the second caused me to take major evasive action close to a busy bus stop,if it had been wet it could have been nasty.
i do not need statistics for what i can see with my own eyes!
You don't understand statistics.
Perhaps I should have said check the facts and figures and STATISTICALLY you will see that motor vehicles cause, and are to blame, for much more death and destruction than cyclists.
no i understand statistics but they can be made to say pretty much anything and seen as there are far more car drivers on the road it would seem obvious to me that there would be far more accidents attributed to them.
but then again that is LOGIC something you obviously do not understand.
Ok there are more car drivers than cyclists so to make it simple for you, cars cause much more death and destruction per incident than cyclists. How's that for logic?
not proved in any way,even your STATISTICS do not infer this
OMG you're a no hoper.
and you have made it bleeding obvious you are a TROLL
An interesting read for you; oh and I seldom cycle.

http://www.ctc.org.u
k/sites/default/file
s/file_public/pedest
riansbrf.pdf
[quote][p][bold]thevoiceofreason1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The-Bleeding-Obvious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thevoiceofreason1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The-Bleeding-Obvious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thevoiceofreason1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The-Bleeding-Obvious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thevoiceofreason1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jobsworthwatch[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thevoiceofreason1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jobsworthwatch[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thevoiceofreason1[/bold] wrote: these events should not be allowed as they pose a risk to everyone else due to the idiocy of many cyclists in the way they believe they own the road due to the mass publicity in the last few years. at the last one i came to a junction and indicated to turn left at which point a mass of riders poured passed me on the inside and i received a torrent of abuse for trying to turn left and blocking there way. what if we got 2500 car drivers to race round the county? soon have the police out handing out fines for various offences. its about time cyclists were registered in some way so they can be identified and made responsible for there actions[/p][/quote]The damage done, and the danger to all, posed by 2500 car drivers 'racing around the county' would be orders of magnitude greater than that posed by cyclists.[/p][/quote]wrong a cyclist can easily cause an accident just as serious as a car. example-cyclist swerves,car driver attempts to avoid cyclist,car driver then loses control and hits a group of pedestrians. seems to be the same order of magnitude to me. oh and when it happens the car drivers insurance company will be there to pay out. and the cyclist...oh thats ok the car drivers insurance will still end up pazing for it![/p][/quote]What a load of bollards, go check the statistics.[/p][/quote]i quote "There are lies, damned lies and statistics." they can be made to say anything,i base what i say on over a million miles driven in the last 20 years...with no accidents with fault attributed to me. this week alone i have twice nearly had cyclist across the bonnet of the car when pulling up to a junction as they shoot across from one pavement to the other and turning right into a main rd to meet one riding down the middle of the wrong side of the road with no lights. the second caused me to take major evasive action close to a busy bus stop,if it had been wet it could have been nasty. i do not need statistics for what i can see with my own eyes![/p][/quote]You don't understand statistics. Perhaps I should have said check the facts and figures and STATISTICALLY you will see that motor vehicles cause, and are to blame, for much more death and destruction than cyclists.[/p][/quote]no i understand statistics but they can be made to say pretty much anything and seen as there are far more car drivers on the road it would seem obvious to me that there would be far more accidents attributed to them. but then again that is LOGIC something you obviously do not understand.[/p][/quote]Ok there are more car drivers than cyclists so to make it simple for you, cars cause much more death and destruction per incident than cyclists. How's that for logic?[/p][/quote]not proved in any way,even your STATISTICS do not infer this[/p][/quote]OMG you're a no hoper.[/p][/quote]and you have made it bleeding obvious you are a TROLL[/p][/quote]An interesting read for you; oh and I seldom cycle. http://www.ctc.org.u k/sites/default/file s/file_public/pedest riansbrf.pdf The-Bleeding-Obvious
  • Score: 2

1:14pm Thu 6 Mar 14

fedupwithjobsworths says...

The-Bleeding-Obvious wrote:
thevoiceofreason1 wrote:
jobsworthwatch wrote:
thevoiceofreason1 wrote:
these events should not be allowed as they pose a risk to everyone else due to the idiocy of many cyclists in the way they believe they own the road due to the mass publicity in the last few years.
at the last one i came to a junction and indicated to turn left at which point a mass of riders poured passed me on the inside and i received a torrent of abuse for trying to turn left and blocking there way.
what if we got 2500 car drivers to race round the county?
soon have the police out handing out fines for various offences.
its about time cyclists were registered in some way so they can be identified and made responsible for there actions
The damage done, and the danger to all, posed by 2500 car drivers 'racing around the county' would be orders of magnitude greater than that posed by cyclists.
wrong a cyclist can easily cause an accident just as serious as a car.
example-cyclist swerves,car driver attempts to avoid cyclist,car driver then loses control and hits a group of pedestrians.
seems to be the same order of magnitude to me.
oh and when it happens the car drivers insurance company will be there to pay out.
and the cyclist...oh thats ok the car drivers insurance will still end up pazing for it!
Wrong.....much more likely.....
Example:- car swerves, cyclist attempts to avoid car, cyclist then loses control and hits a group of pedestrians. Cyclist comes off bike and breaks collar bone, group of pedestrians are largely unharmed. Car driver drives off without stopping.
.... and this last comment coming from someone who fell off his bike (when pi$$ed) and broke his collar bone, on his way back from the Bankes Arms Beer Festival the other year!
[quote][p][bold]The-Bleeding-Obvious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thevoiceofreason1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jobsworthwatch[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thevoiceofreason1[/bold] wrote: these events should not be allowed as they pose a risk to everyone else due to the idiocy of many cyclists in the way they believe they own the road due to the mass publicity in the last few years. at the last one i came to a junction and indicated to turn left at which point a mass of riders poured passed me on the inside and i received a torrent of abuse for trying to turn left and blocking there way. what if we got 2500 car drivers to race round the county? soon have the police out handing out fines for various offences. its about time cyclists were registered in some way so they can be identified and made responsible for there actions[/p][/quote]The damage done, and the danger to all, posed by 2500 car drivers 'racing around the county' would be orders of magnitude greater than that posed by cyclists.[/p][/quote]wrong a cyclist can easily cause an accident just as serious as a car. example-cyclist swerves,car driver attempts to avoid cyclist,car driver then loses control and hits a group of pedestrians. seems to be the same order of magnitude to me. oh and when it happens the car drivers insurance company will be there to pay out. and the cyclist...oh thats ok the car drivers insurance will still end up pazing for it![/p][/quote]Wrong.....much more likely..... Example:- car swerves, cyclist attempts to avoid car, cyclist then loses control and hits a group of pedestrians. Cyclist comes off bike and breaks collar bone, group of pedestrians are largely unharmed. Car driver drives off without stopping.[/p][/quote].... and this last comment coming from someone who fell off his bike (when pi$$ed) and broke his collar bone, on his way back from the Bankes Arms Beer Festival the other year! fedupwithjobsworths
  • Score: 2

1:24pm Thu 6 Mar 14

sprintervanman says...

Funny how France, Spain, Italy etc never have problems when organising events like these, usually on a far bigger scale and often over several days.Something to do with not having the lame British attitude I should guess.
Funny how France, Spain, Italy etc never have problems when organising events like these, usually on a far bigger scale and often over several days.Something to do with not having the lame British attitude I should guess. sprintervanman
  • Score: 9

1:25pm Thu 6 Mar 14

The-Bleeding-Obvious says...

fedupwithjobsworths wrote:
The-Bleeding-Obvious wrote:
thevoiceofreason1 wrote:
jobsworthwatch wrote:
thevoiceofreason1 wrote:
these events should not be allowed as they pose a risk to everyone else due to the idiocy of many cyclists in the way they believe they own the road due to the mass publicity in the last few years.
at the last one i came to a junction and indicated to turn left at which point a mass of riders poured passed me on the inside and i received a torrent of abuse for trying to turn left and blocking there way.
what if we got 2500 car drivers to race round the county?
soon have the police out handing out fines for various offences.
its about time cyclists were registered in some way so they can be identified and made responsible for there actions
The damage done, and the danger to all, posed by 2500 car drivers 'racing around the county' would be orders of magnitude greater than that posed by cyclists.
wrong a cyclist can easily cause an accident just as serious as a car.
example-cyclist swerves,car driver attempts to avoid cyclist,car driver then loses control and hits a group of pedestrians.
seems to be the same order of magnitude to me.
oh and when it happens the car drivers insurance company will be there to pay out.
and the cyclist...oh thats ok the car drivers insurance will still end up pazing for it!
Wrong.....much more likely.....
Example:- car swerves, cyclist attempts to avoid car, cyclist then loses control and hits a group of pedestrians. Cyclist comes off bike and breaks collar bone, group of pedestrians are largely unharmed. Car driver drives off without stopping.
.... and this last comment coming from someone who fell off his bike (when pi$$ed) and broke his collar bone, on his way back from the Bankes Arms Beer Festival the other year!
It's not true! I was forced off the road by idiot car drivers racing to get the last ferry! I was lucky I only suffered a broken collar bone!
[quote][p][bold]fedupwithjobsworths[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The-Bleeding-Obvious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thevoiceofreason1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jobsworthwatch[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thevoiceofreason1[/bold] wrote: these events should not be allowed as they pose a risk to everyone else due to the idiocy of many cyclists in the way they believe they own the road due to the mass publicity in the last few years. at the last one i came to a junction and indicated to turn left at which point a mass of riders poured passed me on the inside and i received a torrent of abuse for trying to turn left and blocking there way. what if we got 2500 car drivers to race round the county? soon have the police out handing out fines for various offences. its about time cyclists were registered in some way so they can be identified and made responsible for there actions[/p][/quote]The damage done, and the danger to all, posed by 2500 car drivers 'racing around the county' would be orders of magnitude greater than that posed by cyclists.[/p][/quote]wrong a cyclist can easily cause an accident just as serious as a car. example-cyclist swerves,car driver attempts to avoid cyclist,car driver then loses control and hits a group of pedestrians. seems to be the same order of magnitude to me. oh and when it happens the car drivers insurance company will be there to pay out. and the cyclist...oh thats ok the car drivers insurance will still end up pazing for it![/p][/quote]Wrong.....much more likely..... Example:- car swerves, cyclist attempts to avoid car, cyclist then loses control and hits a group of pedestrians. Cyclist comes off bike and breaks collar bone, group of pedestrians are largely unharmed. Car driver drives off without stopping.[/p][/quote].... and this last comment coming from someone who fell off his bike (when pi$$ed) and broke his collar bone, on his way back from the Bankes Arms Beer Festival the other year![/p][/quote]It's not true! I was forced off the road by idiot car drivers racing to get the last ferry! I was lucky I only suffered a broken collar bone! The-Bleeding-Obvious
  • Score: 2

2:09pm Thu 6 Mar 14

skydriver says...

Looking at these comment I can now see why this has been cancelled. Some of these cyclist only see things from their perspective, and the rest of us don't matter. You only have to look at the slanging matches between many of the commenters. The cyclist think they are right all the time . And yes from my comment we have all seen cyclist jumping traffic lights and often have total disregard for other road users. I drive and I do ride a bike, but not with a heard, I don't jump lights and I do have consideration for other road users.
FACT,!
Looking at these comment I can now see why this has been cancelled. Some of these cyclist only see things from their perspective, and the rest of us don't matter. You only have to look at the slanging matches between many of the commenters. The cyclist think they are right all the time . And yes from my comment we have all seen cyclist jumping traffic lights and often have total disregard for other road users. I drive and I do ride a bike, but not with a heard, I don't jump lights and I do have consideration for other road users. FACT,! skydriver
  • Score: 2

2:29pm Thu 6 Mar 14

fedupwithbadcyclists says...

The-Bleeding-Obvious wrote:
fedupwithjobsworths wrote:
The-Bleeding-Obvious wrote:
thevoiceofreason1 wrote:
jobsworthwatch wrote:
thevoiceofreason1 wrote:
these events should not be allowed as they pose a risk to everyone else due to the idiocy of many cyclists in the way they believe they own the road due to the mass publicity in the last few years.
at the last one i came to a junction and indicated to turn left at which point a mass of riders poured passed me on the inside and i received a torrent of abuse for trying to turn left and blocking there way.
what if we got 2500 car drivers to race round the county?
soon have the police out handing out fines for various offences.
its about time cyclists were registered in some way so they can be identified and made responsible for there actions
The damage done, and the danger to all, posed by 2500 car drivers 'racing around the county' would be orders of magnitude greater than that posed by cyclists.
wrong a cyclist can easily cause an accident just as serious as a car.
example-cyclist swerves,car driver attempts to avoid cyclist,car driver then loses control and hits a group of pedestrians.
seems to be the same order of magnitude to me.
oh and when it happens the car drivers insurance company will be there to pay out.
and the cyclist...oh thats ok the car drivers insurance will still end up pazing for it!
Wrong.....much more likely.....
Example:- car swerves, cyclist attempts to avoid car, cyclist then loses control and hits a group of pedestrians. Cyclist comes off bike and breaks collar bone, group of pedestrians are largely unharmed. Car driver drives off without stopping.
.... and this last comment coming from someone who fell off his bike (when pi$$ed) and broke his collar bone, on his way back from the Bankes Arms Beer Festival the other year!
It's not true! I was forced off the road by idiot car drivers racing to get the last ferry! I was lucky I only suffered a broken collar bone!
Obviously so drunk you were hallucinating - !!
" Drinking to excess and cycling irresponsily "should be your motto.
no doubt a cost to the tax payers and NHS service to sort you out
[quote][p][bold]The-Bleeding-Obvious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fedupwithjobsworths[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The-Bleeding-Obvious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thevoiceofreason1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jobsworthwatch[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thevoiceofreason1[/bold] wrote: these events should not be allowed as they pose a risk to everyone else due to the idiocy of many cyclists in the way they believe they own the road due to the mass publicity in the last few years. at the last one i came to a junction and indicated to turn left at which point a mass of riders poured passed me on the inside and i received a torrent of abuse for trying to turn left and blocking there way. what if we got 2500 car drivers to race round the county? soon have the police out handing out fines for various offences. its about time cyclists were registered in some way so they can be identified and made responsible for there actions[/p][/quote]The damage done, and the danger to all, posed by 2500 car drivers 'racing around the county' would be orders of magnitude greater than that posed by cyclists.[/p][/quote]wrong a cyclist can easily cause an accident just as serious as a car. example-cyclist swerves,car driver attempts to avoid cyclist,car driver then loses control and hits a group of pedestrians. seems to be the same order of magnitude to me. oh and when it happens the car drivers insurance company will be there to pay out. and the cyclist...oh thats ok the car drivers insurance will still end up pazing for it![/p][/quote]Wrong.....much more likely..... Example:- car swerves, cyclist attempts to avoid car, cyclist then loses control and hits a group of pedestrians. Cyclist comes off bike and breaks collar bone, group of pedestrians are largely unharmed. Car driver drives off without stopping.[/p][/quote].... and this last comment coming from someone who fell off his bike (when pi$$ed) and broke his collar bone, on his way back from the Bankes Arms Beer Festival the other year![/p][/quote]It's not true! I was forced off the road by idiot car drivers racing to get the last ferry! I was lucky I only suffered a broken collar bone![/p][/quote]Obviously so drunk you were hallucinating - !! " Drinking to excess and cycling irresponsily "should be your motto. no doubt a cost to the tax payers and NHS service to sort you out fedupwithbadcyclists
  • Score: -3

3:40pm Thu 6 Mar 14

eaststandman says...

TobyB1960 wrote:
O'dear the anti-cycling trolls are out again. Perhaps if they got out of their darkened bedsits and got some fresh air they might have a different point of view.
I don't think the trolls are out again.

As long as everyone on the road obeys the highway code we'll all be ok...............tha
t includes cyclists travelling in single file..........lol...
.
[quote][p][bold]TobyB1960[/bold] wrote: O'dear the anti-cycling trolls are out again. Perhaps if they got out of their darkened bedsits and got some fresh air they might have a different point of view.[/p][/quote]I don't think the trolls are out again. As long as everyone on the road obeys the highway code we'll all be ok...............tha t includes cyclists travelling in single file..........lol... . eaststandman
  • Score: 2

3:44pm Thu 6 Mar 14

suzigirl says...

skydriver wrote:
They were told to obey the Highway Code, that indicates they don't usually, and we have all seen that, riding on the pathway, jumping traffic lights, total disregard for other road users and so on. I think enough said.
You had better watch your comments as I have just had a warning!
[quote][p][bold]skydriver[/bold] wrote: They were told to obey the Highway Code, that indicates they don't usually, and we have all seen that, riding on the pathway, jumping traffic lights, total disregard for other road users and so on. I think enough said.[/p][/quote]You had better watch your comments as I have just had a warning! suzigirl
  • Score: -9

3:44pm Thu 6 Mar 14

thevoiceofreason1 says...

jobsworthwatch wrote:
thevoiceofreason1 wrote:
TobyB1960 wrote:
O'dear the anti-cycling trolls are out again. Perhaps if they got out of their darkened bedsits and got some fresh air they might have a different point of view.
what an intelligent comment...try reading posts from the beginning.
"over a million miles in the last 20 years" i think i might have to get out to do that...IDIOT.
incidentally i own my own home outright and have my own business.
Blimey that's 50,000 miles a year, hope you're not texting your comments while you're driving!
i don#t even text at a standstill...when minutes are free why bother.
i use the lost art of talking on a proper permanently fitted bluetooth hands free.
[quote][p][bold]jobsworthwatch[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thevoiceofreason1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TobyB1960[/bold] wrote: O'dear the anti-cycling trolls are out again. Perhaps if they got out of their darkened bedsits and got some fresh air they might have a different point of view.[/p][/quote]what an intelligent comment...try reading posts from the beginning. "over a million miles in the last 20 years" i think i might have to get out to do that...IDIOT. incidentally i own my own home outright and have my own business.[/p][/quote]Blimey that's 50,000 miles a year, hope you're not texting your comments while you're driving![/p][/quote]i don#t even text at a standstill...when minutes are free why bother. i use the lost art of talking on a proper permanently fitted bluetooth hands free. thevoiceofreason1
  • Score: -1

6:24pm Thu 6 Mar 14

pugs0404 says...

Breaking news........


Tour De France has been canceled due to a french letter being discovered on the start line.

organizers response was
Breaking news........ Tour De France has been canceled due to a french letter being discovered on the start line. organizers response was pugs0404
  • Score: -2

6:59pm Thu 6 Mar 14

fedupwithbadcyclists says...

come again?
come again? fedupwithbadcyclists
  • Score: -2

6:56pm Wed 12 Mar 14

Letcommonsenseprevail says...

The-Bleeding-Obvious wrote:
thevoiceofreason1 wrote:
jobsworthwatch wrote:
thevoiceofreason1 wrote:
jobsworthwatch wrote:
thevoiceofreason1 wrote:
these events should not be allowed as they pose a risk to everyone else due to the idiocy of many cyclists in the way they believe they own the road due to the mass publicity in the last few years.
at the last one i came to a junction and indicated to turn left at which point a mass of riders poured passed me on the inside and i received a torrent of abuse for trying to turn left and blocking there way.
what if we got 2500 car drivers to race round the county?
soon have the police out handing out fines for various offences.
its about time cyclists were registered in some way so they can be identified and made responsible for there actions
The damage done, and the danger to all, posed by 2500 car drivers 'racing around the county' would be orders of magnitude greater than that posed by cyclists.
wrong a cyclist can easily cause an accident just as serious as a car.
example-cyclist swerves,car driver attempts to avoid cyclist,car driver then loses control and hits a group of pedestrians.
seems to be the same order of magnitude to me.
oh and when it happens the car drivers insurance company will be there to pay out.
and the cyclist...oh thats ok the car drivers insurance will still end up pazing for it!
What a load of bollards, go check the statistics.
i quote "There are lies, damned lies and statistics."
they can be made to say anything,i base what i say on over a million miles driven in the last 20 years...with no accidents with fault attributed to me.
this week alone i have twice nearly had cyclist across the bonnet of the car when pulling up to a junction as they shoot across from one pavement to the other and turning right into a main rd to meet one riding down the middle of the wrong side of the road with no lights.
the second caused me to take major evasive action close to a busy bus stop,if it had been wet it could have been nasty.
i do not need statistics for what i can see with my own eyes!
You don't understand statistics.
Perhaps I should have said check the facts and figures and STATISTICALLY you will see that motor vehicles cause, and are to blame, for much more death and destruction than cyclists.
It is a well known fact that 85% of all statistics are made up on the spot. Including that one. Probably. Why can't you all play nicely and get on like good children?
[quote][p][bold]The-Bleeding-Obvious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thevoiceofreason1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jobsworthwatch[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thevoiceofreason1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jobsworthwatch[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thevoiceofreason1[/bold] wrote: these events should not be allowed as they pose a risk to everyone else due to the idiocy of many cyclists in the way they believe they own the road due to the mass publicity in the last few years. at the last one i came to a junction and indicated to turn left at which point a mass of riders poured passed me on the inside and i received a torrent of abuse for trying to turn left and blocking there way. what if we got 2500 car drivers to race round the county? soon have the police out handing out fines for various offences. its about time cyclists were registered in some way so they can be identified and made responsible for there actions[/p][/quote]The damage done, and the danger to all, posed by 2500 car drivers 'racing around the county' would be orders of magnitude greater than that posed by cyclists.[/p][/quote]wrong a cyclist can easily cause an accident just as serious as a car. example-cyclist swerves,car driver attempts to avoid cyclist,car driver then loses control and hits a group of pedestrians. seems to be the same order of magnitude to me. oh and when it happens the car drivers insurance company will be there to pay out. and the cyclist...oh thats ok the car drivers insurance will still end up pazing for it![/p][/quote]What a load of bollards, go check the statistics.[/p][/quote]i quote "There are lies, damned lies and statistics." they can be made to say anything,i base what i say on over a million miles driven in the last 20 years...with no accidents with fault attributed to me. this week alone i have twice nearly had cyclist across the bonnet of the car when pulling up to a junction as they shoot across from one pavement to the other and turning right into a main rd to meet one riding down the middle of the wrong side of the road with no lights. the second caused me to take major evasive action close to a busy bus stop,if it had been wet it could have been nasty. i do not need statistics for what i can see with my own eyes![/p][/quote]You don't understand statistics. Perhaps I should have said check the facts and figures and STATISTICALLY you will see that motor vehicles cause, and are to blame, for much more death and destruction than cyclists.[/p][/quote]It is a well known fact that 85% of all statistics are made up on the spot. Including that one. Probably. Why can't you all play nicely and get on like good children? Letcommonsenseprevail
  • Score: 0

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