Collision that killed elderly woman on Herbert Avenue was 'accident waiting to happen'

FATALITY: The scene of the crash

ACCIDENT: Mick Marshall

PRECARIOUS: Barrie Sansom

DANGEROUS: Dave Evans

TRAFFIC: Barrie Appleby

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SHOCKED residents say the collision that killed an elderly woman in Poole was ‘an accident waiting to happen’.

Police confirmed early yesterday that the woman, who was involved in a collision with a car on Wednesday evening, had died.

Residents expressed their sadness at the news of the death and some said they had watched with anxiety from their windows as emergency services tended to the victim.

The pedestrian, who has still not been named, was involved in a collision with a white Renault Megane in Herbert Avenue at around 7.45pm near Tesco Express and the junction of Stanfield Road.

Paramedics treated her at the scene and police closed the road between Sark Road and Arne Avenue for around three hours while police carried out investigations, including checking the pedestrian crossing.

A police spokesman confirmed at 12.40am yesterday that the woman had died from her injuries.

A number of people in the area said that the Herbert Avenue junction with Stanfield Road was particularly dangerous.

Mick Marshall, 72, who lives nearby, said: “It has been an accident waiting to happen.

“It is a nightmare at that junction and I have had one or two near misses myself.”

Dave Evans, of Wyvern Close, added that the road was particularly dangerous for elderly people crossing the road to use the shops.

Barrie Sansom, 44, who helps at Good Shepherd Church in Stanfield Road, said the road could be precarious for older users.

“It is one of the most dangerous junctions in Parkstone. It is a very nasty corner and always busy,” he added.

Barrie Appleby, a resident at Ralph Jessop Court, said: “There is so much traffic which comes past and it is dangerous for both drivers and pedestrians.”

Cllr Tony Trent, who has represented the Alderney ward for 30 years, said that the crossing near the junction of Stanfield Road had been there since it was fought for 20 years ago following the death of an elderly woman.

“It’s particularly sad that someone has been killed near it,” he added.

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7:37am Fri 21 Feb 14

BIGTONE says...

As a reader posted previously.......see
ms strange the Council have now put temporary road surface signs at each end of Herbert Ave.
Did the appalling road surface have any bearing on this accident?

Anyway,it makes no difference that the signs are there because they are not on all adjoining junctions to Herbert Ave,,so if the Council are trying a disclaimer cover they have been sussed.
As a reader posted previously.......see ms strange the Council have now put temporary road surface signs at each end of Herbert Ave. Did the appalling road surface have any bearing on this accident? Anyway,it makes no difference that the signs are there because they are not on all adjoining junctions to Herbert Ave,,so if the Council are trying a disclaimer cover they have been sussed. BIGTONE
  • Score: 3

9:09am Fri 21 Feb 14

Wesoblind says...

people impatiantly leaving the school with half their car stuck out over the giveway lines always worries me there as they force people to squeeze between them and people stopped to turn right.. There is way to much going on, The school turning, the lane to turn into the road with tescos on, the bus stop, the crossing. A good idea would be no turning right out of the school rd, no turning right in or out of the tesco rd. But then people should see the danger at this point of the road and take it slow and vigilant.
people impatiantly leaving the school with half their car stuck out over the giveway lines always worries me there as they force people to squeeze between them and people stopped to turn right.. There is way to much going on, The school turning, the lane to turn into the road with tescos on, the bus stop, the crossing. A good idea would be no turning right out of the school rd, no turning right in or out of the tesco rd. But then people should see the danger at this point of the road and take it slow and vigilant. Wesoblind
  • Score: 6

10:13am Fri 21 Feb 14

Victor_Meldrew_Lives! says...

Cr4p driving basically cannot be legislated against.
Cr4p driving basically cannot be legislated against. Victor_Meldrew_Lives!
  • Score: 1

10:17am Fri 21 Feb 14

speedy231278 says...

There's a set of traffic lights right outside the Tesco Express. I fail to see how that makes it 'dangerous' to cross the road at that point unless motorists are ignoring the lights. There are no dangerous roads, only dangerous road users.
There's a set of traffic lights right outside the Tesco Express. I fail to see how that makes it 'dangerous' to cross the road at that point unless motorists are ignoring the lights. There are no dangerous roads, only dangerous road users. speedy231278
  • Score: 20

10:40am Fri 21 Feb 14

Branksome Boy says...

Sorry but everyone is jumping to conclusions as usual! We don't know what happened in this incident! All we know is that one poor lady has lost her life and 2 people had to be cut out of their car! The other point which needs to be checked up on is the state of the road! Herbert Avenue is in a terrible state of repair and putting up signs saying the surface is temporary is a cop out by Poole Council! Why are our local Councillors not bringing this up - instead of all this rubbish about travellers sites!
Sorry but everyone is jumping to conclusions as usual! We don't know what happened in this incident! All we know is that one poor lady has lost her life and 2 people had to be cut out of their car! The other point which needs to be checked up on is the state of the road! Herbert Avenue is in a terrible state of repair and putting up signs saying the surface is temporary is a cop out by Poole Council! Why are our local Councillors not bringing this up - instead of all this rubbish about travellers sites! Branksome Boy
  • Score: 15

12:11pm Fri 21 Feb 14

Tony Trent says...

Branksome Boy wrote:
Sorry but everyone is jumping to conclusions as usual! We don't know what happened in this incident! All we know is that one poor lady has lost her life and 2 people had to be cut out of their car! The other point which needs to be checked up on is the state of the road! Herbert Avenue is in a terrible state of repair and putting up signs saying the surface is temporary is a cop out by Poole Council! Why are our local Councillors not bringing this up - instead of all this rubbish about travellers sites!
My understanding is that Herbert Avenue is up for a complete re-surface, and has been for a few months. I suspect that it's programmed in not to clash with the major works on parallel Ashley Road. I would be surprised however if the state of the road surface has any bearing on the accident, but I wouldn't want to second guess why and how the accident happenned. It took place outside the peak busy times, but at a time when there might have been poor visability due to drizzle (I was inside at a meeting just down the road so not sure what the weather was doing at the time). The accident was tragic, but untill the Police report back you cannot make a judgement.
[quote][p][bold]Branksome Boy[/bold] wrote: Sorry but everyone is jumping to conclusions as usual! We don't know what happened in this incident! All we know is that one poor lady has lost her life and 2 people had to be cut out of their car! The other point which needs to be checked up on is the state of the road! Herbert Avenue is in a terrible state of repair and putting up signs saying the surface is temporary is a cop out by Poole Council! Why are our local Councillors not bringing this up - instead of all this rubbish about travellers sites![/p][/quote]My understanding is that Herbert Avenue is up for a complete re-surface, and has been for a few months. I suspect that it's programmed in not to clash with the major works on parallel Ashley Road. I would be surprised however if the state of the road surface has any bearing on the accident, but I wouldn't want to second guess why and how the accident happenned. It took place outside the peak busy times, but at a time when there might have been poor visability due to drizzle (I was inside at a meeting just down the road so not sure what the weather was doing at the time). The accident was tragic, but untill the Police report back you cannot make a judgement. Tony Trent
  • Score: 9

12:19pm Fri 21 Feb 14

pete woodley says...

It has been a race track ever since i was a kid,over 70 years.
It has been a race track ever since i was a kid,over 70 years. pete woodley
  • Score: 1

12:50pm Fri 21 Feb 14

Branksome Boy says...

Mmmm I will believe that Herbert Avenue is going to be totally resurfaced when I see it! I've marked on my calender today that Councillor Trent believes it will be resurfaced and I will count how many weeks before it actually happens! LOL !
Mmmm I will believe that Herbert Avenue is going to be totally resurfaced when I see it! I've marked on my calender today that Councillor Trent believes it will be resurfaced and I will count how many weeks before it actually happens! LOL ! Branksome Boy
  • Score: 3

2:05pm Fri 21 Feb 14

grumpyfromparkstone says...

Does Counciollor Trent actually know whats going on?
Does Counciollor Trent actually know whats going on? grumpyfromparkstone
  • Score: -2

2:24pm Fri 21 Feb 14

Chris the plumber says...

Branksome Boy wrote:
Sorry but everyone is jumping to conclusions as usual! We don't know what happened in this incident! All we know is that one poor lady has lost her life and 2 people had to be cut out of their car! The other point which needs to be checked up on is the state of the road! Herbert Avenue is in a terrible state of repair and putting up signs saying the surface is temporary is a cop out by Poole Council! Why are our local Councillors not bringing this up - instead of all this rubbish about travellers sites!
Yes we do know what happened A Car Ran Over Lady, as usual going to fast to stop in time.... if you cant see what in in front of you GO SLOWER.
Roads, junctions and bends are NOT dangerious they don't do anything drivers and motorcycle riders are the problem. All urban areas should be 20 mph, it wont be long till that is the norm, Parts or parkstone already are.
[quote][p][bold]Branksome Boy[/bold] wrote: Sorry but everyone is jumping to conclusions as usual! We don't know what happened in this incident! All we know is that one poor lady has lost her life and 2 people had to be cut out of their car! The other point which needs to be checked up on is the state of the road! Herbert Avenue is in a terrible state of repair and putting up signs saying the surface is temporary is a cop out by Poole Council! Why are our local Councillors not bringing this up - instead of all this rubbish about travellers sites![/p][/quote]Yes we do know what happened A Car Ran Over Lady, as usual going to fast to stop in time.... if you cant see what in in front of you GO SLOWER. Roads, junctions and bends are NOT dangerious they don't do anything drivers and motorcycle riders are the problem. All urban areas should be 20 mph, it wont be long till that is the norm, Parts or parkstone already are. Chris the plumber
  • Score: 1

3:28pm Fri 21 Feb 14

Wackerone says...

Chris the plumber wrote:
Branksome Boy wrote:
Sorry but everyone is jumping to conclusions as usual! We don't know what happened in this incident! All we know is that one poor lady has lost her life and 2 people had to be cut out of their car! The other point which needs to be checked up on is the state of the road! Herbert Avenue is in a terrible state of repair and putting up signs saying the surface is temporary is a cop out by Poole Council! Why are our local Councillors not bringing this up - instead of all this rubbish about travellers sites!
Yes we do know what happened A Car Ran Over Lady, as usual going to fast to stop in time.... if you cant see what in in front of you GO SLOWER.
Roads, junctions and bends are NOT dangerious they don't do anything drivers and motorcycle riders are the problem. All urban areas should be 20 mph, it wont be long till that is the norm, Parts or parkstone already are.
Unless you were a witness to the collision, how do you know the car driver was going too fast?? She may have been too busy trying to pick her way round all the pot holes though, not to see the the lady who should have been crossing at the designated Pelican. And when was the last time that you achieved 20 mph along this road, I'm normally averaging about 10 mph. 20 mph is being achieved by design and not by legislation.
[quote][p][bold]Chris the plumber[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Branksome Boy[/bold] wrote: Sorry but everyone is jumping to conclusions as usual! We don't know what happened in this incident! All we know is that one poor lady has lost her life and 2 people had to be cut out of their car! The other point which needs to be checked up on is the state of the road! Herbert Avenue is in a terrible state of repair and putting up signs saying the surface is temporary is a cop out by Poole Council! Why are our local Councillors not bringing this up - instead of all this rubbish about travellers sites![/p][/quote]Yes we do know what happened A Car Ran Over Lady, as usual going to fast to stop in time.... if you cant see what in in front of you GO SLOWER. Roads, junctions and bends are NOT dangerious they don't do anything drivers and motorcycle riders are the problem. All urban areas should be 20 mph, it wont be long till that is the norm, Parts or parkstone already are.[/p][/quote]Unless you were a witness to the collision, how do you know the car driver was going too fast?? She may have been too busy trying to pick her way round all the pot holes though, not to see the the lady who should have been crossing at the designated Pelican. And when was the last time that you achieved 20 mph along this road, I'm normally averaging about 10 mph. 20 mph is being achieved by design and not by legislation. Wackerone
  • Score: 5

4:18pm Fri 21 Feb 14

Wesoblind says...

Chris the plumber wrote:
Branksome Boy wrote:
Sorry but everyone is jumping to conclusions as usual! We don't know what happened in this incident! All we know is that one poor lady has lost her life and 2 people had to be cut out of their car! The other point which needs to be checked up on is the state of the road! Herbert Avenue is in a terrible state of repair and putting up signs saying the surface is temporary is a cop out by Poole Council! Why are our local Councillors not bringing this up - instead of all this rubbish about travellers sites!
Yes we do know what happened A Car Ran Over Lady, as usual going to fast to stop in time.... if you cant see what in in front of you GO SLOWER.
Roads, junctions and bends are NOT dangerious they don't do anything drivers and motorcycle riders are the problem. All urban areas should be 20 mph, it wont be long till that is the norm, Parts or parkstone already are.
Or people stepping out in the road without looking? Just saying.
[quote][p][bold]Chris the plumber[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Branksome Boy[/bold] wrote: Sorry but everyone is jumping to conclusions as usual! We don't know what happened in this incident! All we know is that one poor lady has lost her life and 2 people had to be cut out of their car! The other point which needs to be checked up on is the state of the road! Herbert Avenue is in a terrible state of repair and putting up signs saying the surface is temporary is a cop out by Poole Council! Why are our local Councillors not bringing this up - instead of all this rubbish about travellers sites![/p][/quote]Yes we do know what happened A Car Ran Over Lady, as usual going to fast to stop in time.... if you cant see what in in front of you GO SLOWER. Roads, junctions and bends are NOT dangerious they don't do anything drivers and motorcycle riders are the problem. All urban areas should be 20 mph, it wont be long till that is the norm, Parts or parkstone already are.[/p][/quote]Or people stepping out in the road without looking? Just saying. Wesoblind
  • Score: 6

7:19pm Fri 21 Feb 14

Snail32 says...

Wackerone wrote:
Chris the plumber wrote:
Branksome Boy wrote:
Sorry but everyone is jumping to conclusions as usual! We don't know what happened in this incident! All we know is that one poor lady has lost her life and 2 people had to be cut out of their car! The other point which needs to be checked up on is the state of the road! Herbert Avenue is in a terrible state of repair and putting up signs saying the surface is temporary is a cop out by Poole Council! Why are our local Councillors not bringing this up - instead of all this rubbish about travellers sites!
Yes we do know what happened A Car Ran Over Lady, as usual going to fast to stop in time.... if you cant see what in in front of you GO SLOWER.
Roads, junctions and bends are NOT dangerious they don't do anything drivers and motorcycle riders are the problem. All urban areas should be 20 mph, it wont be long till that is the norm, Parts or parkstone already are.
Unless you were a witness to the collision, how do you know the car driver was going too fast?? She may have been too busy trying to pick her way round all the pot holes though, not to see the the lady who should have been crossing at the designated Pelican. And when was the last time that you achieved 20 mph along this road, I'm normally averaging about 10 mph. 20 mph is being achieved by design and not by legislation.
She was crossing at the crossing because I was there when it happend so as far as people kept saying it here is a crossing, this is correct and the lady was using it and the lights were red when we all started to cross.
[quote][p][bold]Wackerone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chris the plumber[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Branksome Boy[/bold] wrote: Sorry but everyone is jumping to conclusions as usual! We don't know what happened in this incident! All we know is that one poor lady has lost her life and 2 people had to be cut out of their car! The other point which needs to be checked up on is the state of the road! Herbert Avenue is in a terrible state of repair and putting up signs saying the surface is temporary is a cop out by Poole Council! Why are our local Councillors not bringing this up - instead of all this rubbish about travellers sites![/p][/quote]Yes we do know what happened A Car Ran Over Lady, as usual going to fast to stop in time.... if you cant see what in in front of you GO SLOWER. Roads, junctions and bends are NOT dangerious they don't do anything drivers and motorcycle riders are the problem. All urban areas should be 20 mph, it wont be long till that is the norm, Parts or parkstone already are.[/p][/quote]Unless you were a witness to the collision, how do you know the car driver was going too fast?? She may have been too busy trying to pick her way round all the pot holes though, not to see the the lady who should have been crossing at the designated Pelican. And when was the last time that you achieved 20 mph along this road, I'm normally averaging about 10 mph. 20 mph is being achieved by design and not by legislation.[/p][/quote]She was crossing at the crossing because I was there when it happend so as far as people kept saying it here is a crossing, this is correct and the lady was using it and the lights were red when we all started to cross. Snail32
  • Score: 4

9:24pm Fri 21 Feb 14

ashleycross says...

Unfortunately central government puts terrible pressure on local government to keep car traffic moving by avoiding putting in pedestrian crossings.
Ridiculously enough this actually puts people off walking because crossing the road is such a nightmare so we have far too many cars on the road which in turn causes traffic jams.
About time for a mass boycott of the AA because of all their anti pedestrian lobbying please.
Unfortunately central government puts terrible pressure on local government to keep car traffic moving by avoiding putting in pedestrian crossings. Ridiculously enough this actually puts people off walking because crossing the road is such a nightmare so we have far too many cars on the road which in turn causes traffic jams. About time for a mass boycott of the AA because of all their anti pedestrian lobbying please. ashleycross
  • Score: -1

12:54pm Sun 23 Feb 14

wilkiemini says...

I was talking to residents at Ralph jessops court today and they said she came out of the gate on that property just down from the crossing towards alder road end and then she crossed as she could see the lights had changed ....apparently she was not actually on the crossing!
I was talking to residents at Ralph jessops court today and they said she came out of the gate on that property just down from the crossing towards alder road end and then she crossed as she could see the lights had changed ....apparently she was not actually on the crossing! wilkiemini
  • Score: 2

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