Appeal for witnesses after two-year-old girl bitten by dog in Muscliff

Appeal for witnesses after two-year-old girl bitten by dog in Muscliff

Appeal for witnesses after two-year-old girl bitten by dog in Muscliff

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A TWO-year-old girl was left needing stitches after being attacked by a dog in Muscliff.

Police said this morning that the girl was bitten on the face by the dog at around 10.30am on Thursday.

It happened at Tolpuddle Gardens, outside Rowlands Pharmacy.

PC Dan Smith, of Bournemouth police, said: “This incident left the victim and her mother very distressed. It was fortunate that the injury was not more serious.

“They both approached a light brown dog, believed to be a Beagle, which was tied up outside the pharmacy. While the mother had briefly turned away, the child stroked it and she was bitten.

“I am particularly keen to speak to a young woman, described to be white, in her late teens with long dark hair. She was seen with the dog at the time and I believe she could help us ascertain exactly what happened.

“I would like to speak the owner of the offending dog and to any witnesses or anyone with information as soon as possible.”

Witnesses and anyone with information should call Dorset Police in confidence on 101, quoting incident number 13:336.

Alternatively, call the free and anonymous Crimestoppers line on 0800 555 111 where mobile phone tariffs may apply.

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9:21am Wed 19 Feb 14

reallypig says...

Why would you let your daughter stroke a dog without the owner saying it's safe to do so? Idiot.
Why would you let your daughter stroke a dog without the owner saying it's safe to do so? Idiot. reallypig
  • Score: 109

9:25am Wed 19 Feb 14

lilliputian says...

"offending dog"??.....rather the child's mother at fault for not training daughter that it is unwise to approach strange dogs.
"offending dog"??.....rather the child's mother at fault for not training daughter that it is unwise to approach strange dogs. lilliputian
  • Score: 112

9:34am Wed 19 Feb 14

goatty says...

Who approached who here? The irresponsible mother let her her daughter go up to a strange dog without the owner present! Why was it her face bitten. Suggests she had her face in the dogs face and it obviously felt threatened.
Also why did the mother not go in the shop or wait to see who owned it. I smell a compensation claim coming up.
Who approached who here? The irresponsible mother let her her daughter go up to a strange dog without the owner present! Why was it her face bitten. Suggests she had her face in the dogs face and it obviously felt threatened. Also why did the mother not go in the shop or wait to see who owned it. I smell a compensation claim coming up. goatty
  • Score: 73

9:39am Wed 19 Feb 14

yummybrummy in bournemouth says...

lilliputian wrote:
"offending dog"??.....rather the child's mother at fault for not training daughter that it is unwise to approach strange dogs.
And I suppose that when you were two years old you never went near anything hot, never pinched a biscuit, didn't jump in puddles...
Your parents could make a fortune writing a book on how to raise a perfectly obedient child.
As to the incident... poor kid. Hope she recovers quickly. And my sympathies to the mother. One moment distraction can be costly.
[quote][p][bold]lilliputian[/bold] wrote: "offending dog"??.....rather the child's mother at fault for not training daughter that it is unwise to approach strange dogs.[/p][/quote]And I suppose that when you were two years old you never went near anything hot, never pinched a biscuit, didn't jump in puddles... Your parents could make a fortune writing a book on how to raise a perfectly obedient child. As to the incident... poor kid. Hope she recovers quickly. And my sympathies to the mother. One moment distraction can be costly. yummybrummy in bournemouth
  • Score: -28

9:40am Wed 19 Feb 14

pete woodley says...

No excuse for the dogs owner,or the mother of the child.Both are responsible.
No excuse for the dogs owner,or the mother of the child.Both are responsible. pete woodley
  • Score: -11

9:40am Wed 19 Feb 14

p.smith1958 says...

Should of been muzzled and under control, the article says mother had briefly turned away,..... its the down to the dog owner..... not the mother, a child should be safe on the street
Should of been muzzled and under control, the article says mother had briefly turned away,..... its the down to the dog owner..... not the mother, a child should be safe on the street p.smith1958
  • Score: -68

10:06am Wed 19 Feb 14

reallypig says...

p.smith1958 wrote:
Should of been muzzled and under control, the article says mother had briefly turned away,..... its the down to the dog owner..... not the mother, a child should be safe on the street
Get in the real world. A child is only safe under supervison from proper parents. Look at the bigger picture. So child runs into road and gets hit by a car! Car shouldnt have been on the road? Bitten by a spider! Put a muzzle on it? Fell into a river! Waters at falt? This is what's wrong with people, can't take responsibility for your actions.
[quote][p][bold]p.smith1958[/bold] wrote: Should of been muzzled and under control, the article says mother had briefly turned away,..... its the down to the dog owner..... not the mother, a child should be safe on the street[/p][/quote]Get in the real world. A child is only safe under supervison from proper parents. Look at the bigger picture. So child runs into road and gets hit by a car! Car shouldnt have been on the road? Bitten by a spider! Put a muzzle on it? Fell into a river! Waters at falt? This is what's wrong with people, can't take responsibility for your actions. reallypig
  • Score: 93

10:11am Wed 19 Feb 14

p.smith1958 says...

reallypig wrote:
p.smith1958 wrote:
Should of been muzzled and under control, the article says mother had briefly turned away,..... its the down to the dog owner..... not the mother, a child should be safe on the street
Get in the real world. A child is only safe under supervison from proper parents. Look at the bigger picture. So child runs into road and gets hit by a car! Car shouldnt have been on the road? Bitten by a spider! Put a muzzle on it? Fell into a river! Waters at falt? This is what's wrong with people, can't take responsibility for your actions.
"Bitten by a Spider, Falling into a river, getting hit by a car" can you understand how pathetic you sound, get a grip, we are talking about a DOG that the owner is responsible for AT ALL TIMES ......... the dog owner should do as you said and take responsibility for there actions.
[quote][p][bold]reallypig[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]p.smith1958[/bold] wrote: Should of been muzzled and under control, the article says mother had briefly turned away,..... its the down to the dog owner..... not the mother, a child should be safe on the street[/p][/quote]Get in the real world. A child is only safe under supervison from proper parents. Look at the bigger picture. So child runs into road and gets hit by a car! Car shouldnt have been on the road? Bitten by a spider! Put a muzzle on it? Fell into a river! Waters at falt? This is what's wrong with people, can't take responsibility for your actions.[/p][/quote]"Bitten by a Spider, Falling into a river, getting hit by a car" can you understand how pathetic you sound, get a grip, we are talking about a DOG that the owner is responsible for AT ALL TIMES ......... the dog owner should do as you said and take responsibility for there actions. p.smith1958
  • Score: -69

10:23am Wed 19 Feb 14

throatwarbler says...

p.smith1958 wrote:
reallypig wrote:
p.smith1958 wrote:
Should of been muzzled and under control, the article says mother had briefly turned away,..... its the down to the dog owner..... not the mother, a child should be safe on the street
Get in the real world. A child is only safe under supervison from proper parents. Look at the bigger picture. So child runs into road and gets hit by a car! Car shouldnt have been on the road? Bitten by a spider! Put a muzzle on it? Fell into a river! Waters at falt? This is what's wrong with people, can't take responsibility for your actions.
"Bitten by a Spider, Falling into a river, getting hit by a car" can you understand how pathetic you sound, get a grip, we are talking about a DOG that the owner is responsible for AT ALL TIMES ......... the dog owner should do as you said and take responsibility for there actions.
Unfortunately, responsibility in society is something that is generally falling by the wayside. It's always the fault of somebody else.
[quote][p][bold]p.smith1958[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]reallypig[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]p.smith1958[/bold] wrote: Should of been muzzled and under control, the article says mother had briefly turned away,..... its the down to the dog owner..... not the mother, a child should be safe on the street[/p][/quote]Get in the real world. A child is only safe under supervison from proper parents. Look at the bigger picture. So child runs into road and gets hit by a car! Car shouldnt have been on the road? Bitten by a spider! Put a muzzle on it? Fell into a river! Waters at falt? This is what's wrong with people, can't take responsibility for your actions.[/p][/quote]"Bitten by a Spider, Falling into a river, getting hit by a car" can you understand how pathetic you sound, get a grip, we are talking about a DOG that the owner is responsible for AT ALL TIMES ......... the dog owner should do as you said and take responsibility for there actions.[/p][/quote]Unfortunately, responsibility in society is something that is generally falling by the wayside. It's always the fault of somebody else. throatwarbler
  • Score: 47

10:27am Wed 19 Feb 14

new2it says...

I don't tie my dogs outside while I go into a shop for the very reason that somebody may approach them and I don't know what their reaction would be, because I have never tried it. I don't go into shops or anywhere where i would need to leave them. End of. Unfortunately some children will come bounding up to dogs to stroke them without asking the owner if it is OK, and I have had parents saying that he/she absolutely love dogs, but I always say they must be very careful and always ask. If a dog is startled, of course it's first defence is probably to snap, and it would take very little for those canine teeth to tear the skin, which I am sure is what happened in this case. Unfortunate all round, obviously of course for the child, but I hope the dog is not classed as dangerous. I would be devastated if either of my dogs bit anybody.
I don't tie my dogs outside while I go into a shop for the very reason that somebody may approach them and I don't know what their reaction would be, because I have never tried it. I don't go into shops or anywhere where i would need to leave them. End of. Unfortunately some children will come bounding up to dogs to stroke them without asking the owner if it is OK, and I have had parents saying that he/she absolutely love dogs, but I always say they must be very careful and always ask. If a dog is startled, of course it's first defence is probably to snap, and it would take very little for those canine teeth to tear the skin, which I am sure is what happened in this case. Unfortunate all round, obviously of course for the child, but I hope the dog is not classed as dangerous. I would be devastated if either of my dogs bit anybody. new2it
  • Score: 50

10:28am Wed 19 Feb 14

suzigirl says...

I nearly got bitten by a beagle last year. I was walking along the street carrying a plastic shopping bag and I went past a woman with the beagle and for no reason he went to bite me. Lucky for me he bit into the plastic bag and not my leg!

The owner of the beagle should not have left the dog tied up outside the shop as she must surely know the dog's temperment. I see it all the time when walking my dog. He quite often gets snapped at! If in any doubt with a dog - muzzle it!

I hope the little girl recovers from her injury as it must have been very frightening for her!
I nearly got bitten by a beagle last year. I was walking along the street carrying a plastic shopping bag and I went past a woman with the beagle and for no reason he went to bite me. Lucky for me he bit into the plastic bag and not my leg! The owner of the beagle should not have left the dog tied up outside the shop as she must surely know the dog's temperment. I see it all the time when walking my dog. He quite often gets snapped at! If in any doubt with a dog - muzzle it! I hope the little girl recovers from her injury as it must have been very frightening for her! suzigirl
  • Score: -29

10:32am Wed 19 Feb 14

reallypig says...

p.smith1958 wrote:
reallypig wrote:
p.smith1958 wrote:
Should of been muzzled and under control, the article says mother had briefly turned away,..... its the down to the dog owner..... not the mother, a child should be safe on the street
Get in the real world. A child is only safe under supervison from proper parents. Look at the bigger picture. So child runs into road and gets hit by a car! Car shouldnt have been on the road? Bitten by a spider! Put a muzzle on it? Fell into a river! Waters at falt? This is what's wrong with people, can't take responsibility for your actions.
"Bitten by a Spider, Falling into a river, getting hit by a car" can you understand how pathetic you sound, get a grip, we are talking about a DOG that the owner is responsible for AT ALL TIMES ......... the dog owner should do as you said and take responsibility for there actions.
Yes and a DOG is a wild animal and a child is or should be in the care of a responsible adult. You are obviously a DOG hater or a bad parent or just very lacking in common sense!
[quote][p][bold]p.smith1958[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]reallypig[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]p.smith1958[/bold] wrote: Should of been muzzled and under control, the article says mother had briefly turned away,..... its the down to the dog owner..... not the mother, a child should be safe on the street[/p][/quote]Get in the real world. A child is only safe under supervison from proper parents. Look at the bigger picture. So child runs into road and gets hit by a car! Car shouldnt have been on the road? Bitten by a spider! Put a muzzle on it? Fell into a river! Waters at falt? This is what's wrong with people, can't take responsibility for your actions.[/p][/quote]"Bitten by a Spider, Falling into a river, getting hit by a car" can you understand how pathetic you sound, get a grip, we are talking about a DOG that the owner is responsible for AT ALL TIMES ......... the dog owner should do as you said and take responsibility for there actions.[/p][/quote]Yes and a DOG is a wild animal and a child is or should be in the care of a responsible adult. You are obviously a DOG hater or a bad parent or just very lacking in common sense! reallypig
  • Score: 31

10:32am Wed 19 Feb 14

we-shall-see says...

The problem here is two-fold - when dogs feel threatened they are likely to bite. If the child - which was obviously unknown to the dog went over to him - she would probably have been face to face with him because of her age and height.

Dog then felt threatened and bit her - which does not necessarily make it a vicious dog, just a nervous one perhaps.

Toddlers can and DO move quickly and mothers cannot always have their eyes on them every second, as seems to be the case here. Likewise, toddlers do not always do as they have been told - such as not touching dogs - and anyone who says otherwise has obviously never had a toddler!!

At the end of the day, the child is not badly hurt and the owner should have come forward at the time and if she has any sense she will muzzle her dog in future.

I hope the child will heal without scars and if anything good is to come out of this, she may be a little more wary of dogs in the future.
The problem here is two-fold - when dogs feel threatened they are likely to bite. If the child - which was obviously unknown to the dog went over to him - she would probably have been face to face with him because of her age and height. Dog then felt threatened and bit her - which does not necessarily make it a vicious dog, just a nervous one perhaps. Toddlers can and DO move quickly and mothers cannot always have their eyes on them every second, as seems to be the case here. Likewise, toddlers do not always do as they have been told - such as not touching dogs - and anyone who says otherwise has obviously never had a toddler!! At the end of the day, the child is not badly hurt and the owner should have come forward at the time and if she has any sense she will muzzle her dog in future. I hope the child will heal without scars and if anything good is to come out of this, she may be a little more wary of dogs in the future. we-shall-see
  • Score: 37

10:47am Wed 19 Feb 14

new2it says...

we-shall-see wrote:
The problem here is two-fold - when dogs feel threatened they are likely to bite. If the child - which was obviously unknown to the dog went over to him - she would probably have been face to face with him because of her age and height.

Dog then felt threatened and bit her - which does not necessarily make it a vicious dog, just a nervous one perhaps.

Toddlers can and DO move quickly and mothers cannot always have their eyes on them every second, as seems to be the case here. Likewise, toddlers do not always do as they have been told - such as not touching dogs - and anyone who says otherwise has obviously never had a toddler!!

At the end of the day, the child is not badly hurt and the owner should have come forward at the time and if she has any sense she will muzzle her dog in future.

I hope the child will heal without scars and if anything good is to come out of this, she may be a little more wary of dogs in the future.
Well put, I agree with all you say, I'm just not happy at the thought of putting muzzles on my dogs as a precaution. I would just rather not put them in a situation where they may feel threatened or nervous, which is why I would never leave them outside a shop or have them with me if I am picking up any of my grandchildren from school. I had a rescue dog once that was a little bit unpredictable at first, so I muzzled him, the result was that when he was attacked by another dog, he was totally unable to defend himself and ended up with very serious injuries.
[quote][p][bold]we-shall-see[/bold] wrote: The problem here is two-fold - when dogs feel threatened they are likely to bite. If the child - which was obviously unknown to the dog went over to him - she would probably have been face to face with him because of her age and height. Dog then felt threatened and bit her - which does not necessarily make it a vicious dog, just a nervous one perhaps. Toddlers can and DO move quickly and mothers cannot always have their eyes on them every second, as seems to be the case here. Likewise, toddlers do not always do as they have been told - such as not touching dogs - and anyone who says otherwise has obviously never had a toddler!! At the end of the day, the child is not badly hurt and the owner should have come forward at the time and if she has any sense she will muzzle her dog in future. I hope the child will heal without scars and if anything good is to come out of this, she may be a little more wary of dogs in the future.[/p][/quote]Well put, I agree with all you say, I'm just not happy at the thought of putting muzzles on my dogs as a precaution. I would just rather not put them in a situation where they may feel threatened or nervous, which is why I would never leave them outside a shop or have them with me if I am picking up any of my grandchildren from school. I had a rescue dog once that was a little bit unpredictable at first, so I muzzled him, the result was that when he was attacked by another dog, he was totally unable to defend himself and ended up with very serious injuries. new2it
  • Score: 24

11:12am Wed 19 Feb 14

Pasiphae says...

It quite clearly says that the Mother approached the dog WITH her daughter. Only herself to blame. Anyone with even an ounce of common sense should realise that to approach a dog who is tied up, unattended outside a shop is unwise. Whilst I am very sorry this happened the fact remains that the dog is in no way at fault here. It was tied up and therefore felt threatened, whether that was intended or not; and as a result protected itself the only way it could. If the mother wasn't looking how can she know her daughter didn't poke it in the eyes or pull it's ears by accident.
It's quite simple really......IF YOU DON'T KNOW THE DOG, DON'T APPROACH IT!
It quite clearly says that the Mother approached the dog WITH her daughter. Only herself to blame. Anyone with even an ounce of common sense should realise that to approach a dog who is tied up, unattended outside a shop is unwise. Whilst I am very sorry this happened the fact remains that the dog is in no way at fault here. It was tied up and therefore felt threatened, whether that was intended or not; and as a result protected itself the only way it could. If the mother wasn't looking how can she know her daughter didn't poke it in the eyes or pull it's ears by accident. It's quite simple really......IF YOU DON'T KNOW THE DOG, DON'T APPROACH IT! Pasiphae
  • Score: 42

11:12am Wed 19 Feb 14

lilliputian says...

yummybrummy in bournemouth wrote:
lilliputian wrote:
"offending dog"??.....rather the child's mother at fault for not training daughter that it is unwise to approach strange dogs.
And I suppose that when you were two years old you never went near anything hot, never pinched a biscuit, didn't jump in puddles...
Your parents could make a fortune writing a book on how to raise a perfectly obedient child.
As to the incident... poor kid. Hope she recovers quickly. And my sympathies to the mother. One moment distraction can be costly.
You patently fail to grasp the issue here; it is not about 'obedience', but supervision, which was clearly lacking from the parent, who perhaps is rather less worthy of your 'sympathies' (whatever they are worth), than the child, who DOES deserve sympathy.
[quote][p][bold]yummybrummy in bournemouth[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lilliputian[/bold] wrote: "offending dog"??.....rather the child's mother at fault for not training daughter that it is unwise to approach strange dogs.[/p][/quote]And I suppose that when you were two years old you never went near anything hot, never pinched a biscuit, didn't jump in puddles... Your parents could make a fortune writing a book on how to raise a perfectly obedient child. As to the incident... poor kid. Hope she recovers quickly. And my sympathies to the mother. One moment distraction can be costly.[/p][/quote]You patently fail to grasp the issue here; it is not about 'obedience', but supervision, which was clearly lacking from the parent, who perhaps is rather less worthy of your 'sympathies' (whatever they are worth), than the child, who DOES deserve sympathy. lilliputian
  • Score: 19

11:25am Wed 19 Feb 14

BmthNewshound says...

Its the dog owner and girls mother rather than the dog who are at fault.
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The dog shouldn't have been tied up outside the shop, the act of restricting the dogs movement would make it more defensive towards perceived attacks. Toddlers tend to make sudden and jerky movements, the dog may have interpreted this as an attack. If not tied up the likelihood is that the dog would have retreated and probably barked but wouldn't have bitten the child. As it was restrained its defensive response was to bite.
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Just as you teach a child not to approach strangers you should also teach then not to approach unknown dogs.
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Its the dog owner and girls mother rather than the dog who are at fault. . The dog shouldn't have been tied up outside the shop, the act of restricting the dogs movement would make it more defensive towards perceived attacks. Toddlers tend to make sudden and jerky movements, the dog may have interpreted this as an attack. If not tied up the likelihood is that the dog would have retreated and probably barked but wouldn't have bitten the child. As it was restrained its defensive response was to bite. . Just as you teach a child not to approach strangers you should also teach then not to approach unknown dogs. . BmthNewshound
  • Score: 22

11:43am Wed 19 Feb 14

BarrHumbug says...

You shouldn't approach a strange dog without the owner present, no matter how cute or friendly they look, i'll bet she wouldn't have walked up to it with her child if it was a Rottweiler, why should another bread be any different?

Parents with children come up to me all the time when i'm walking my dog asking if he's ok to approach, which is right of them, and he's fine but they make the same mistake every time, which is to reach out arm stretched and try to pat them on the head, dogs don't like that, they never have, especially if a stranger does it, thats why they tilt their heads back every time you do it. Kids also think their a teddy bear and try to hug them around the neck.
You shouldn't approach a strange dog without the owner present, no matter how cute or friendly they look, i'll bet she wouldn't have walked up to it with her child if it was a Rottweiler, why should another bread be any different? Parents with children come up to me all the time when i'm walking my dog asking if he's ok to approach, which is right of them, and he's fine but they make the same mistake every time, which is to reach out arm stretched and try to pat them on the head, dogs don't like that, they never have, especially if a stranger does it, thats why they tilt their heads back every time you do it. Kids also think their a teddy bear and try to hug them around the neck. BarrHumbug
  • Score: 28

11:44am Wed 19 Feb 14

muscliffman says...

It's all within this sentence "both approached a light brown dog, believed to be a Beagle, which was tied up outside the pharmacy. While the mother had briefly turned away, the child stroked it and she was bitten...."

Sorry, but the mother let her child interact physically and (however briefly) without adult supervision with an unknown doubtless frightened dog - poor child, poor dog and one very foolish irresponsible woman.
It's all within this sentence "both approached a light brown dog, believed to be a Beagle, which was tied up outside the pharmacy. While the mother had briefly turned away, the child stroked it and she was bitten...." Sorry, but the mother let her child interact physically and (however briefly) without adult supervision with an unknown doubtless frightened dog - poor child, poor dog and one very foolish irresponsible woman. muscliffman
  • Score: 36

1:12pm Wed 19 Feb 14

MngsMnr says...

we-shall-see wrote:
The problem here is two-fold - when dogs feel threatened they are likely to bite. If the child - which was obviously unknown to the dog went over to him - she would probably have been face to face with him because of her age and height.

Dog then felt threatened and bit her - which does not necessarily make it a vicious dog, just a nervous one perhaps.

Toddlers can and DO move quickly and mothers cannot always have their eyes on them every second, as seems to be the case here. Likewise, toddlers do not always do as they have been told - such as not touching dogs - and anyone who says otherwise has obviously never had a toddler!!

At the end of the day, the child is not badly hurt and the owner should have come forward at the time and if she has any sense she will muzzle her dog in future.

I hope the child will heal without scars and if anything good is to come out of this, she may be a little more wary of dogs in the future.
Couldn't have put it better myself.
I don't get the full picture here though - surely the mother would have gone into pharmacy or waited till owner came out? The owner is probably unaware this even happened.

When are people going to learn that dogs and small children should never be together unsupervised. I can see where dogs are coming from when they snap/bite. It would p*ss me off too being prodded in the eye/ear/nose which is what kids seem to do best to dogs.

Dogs as pets are NOT wild animals in the same context as we are no longer apes! (most of us anyway)
[quote][p][bold]we-shall-see[/bold] wrote: The problem here is two-fold - when dogs feel threatened they are likely to bite. If the child - which was obviously unknown to the dog went over to him - she would probably have been face to face with him because of her age and height. Dog then felt threatened and bit her - which does not necessarily make it a vicious dog, just a nervous one perhaps. Toddlers can and DO move quickly and mothers cannot always have their eyes on them every second, as seems to be the case here. Likewise, toddlers do not always do as they have been told - such as not touching dogs - and anyone who says otherwise has obviously never had a toddler!! At the end of the day, the child is not badly hurt and the owner should have come forward at the time and if she has any sense she will muzzle her dog in future. I hope the child will heal without scars and if anything good is to come out of this, she may be a little more wary of dogs in the future.[/p][/quote]Couldn't have put it better myself. I don't get the full picture here though - surely the mother would have gone into pharmacy or waited till owner came out? The owner is probably unaware this even happened. When are people going to learn that dogs and small children should never be together unsupervised. I can see where dogs are coming from when they snap/bite. It would p*ss me off too being prodded in the eye/ear/nose which is what kids seem to do best to dogs. Dogs as pets are NOT wild animals in the same context as we are no longer apes! (most of us anyway) MngsMnr
  • Score: 11

1:46pm Wed 19 Feb 14

shaft says...

The Dog has bitten the girl on the face not the arm or hand meaning this animal has a vicious nature towards people in turn the dog should have been muzzled if left outside of the shop. The owner and Dog need quickly tracing so the police can interview and assess the dog's temperament. WHEN WILL PEOPLE LEARN TO MUZZLE THEIR DOGS.ALL DOGS. Hope this poor child recovers mentally.
The Dog has bitten the girl on the face not the arm or hand meaning this animal has a vicious nature towards people in turn the dog should have been muzzled if left outside of the shop. The owner and Dog need quickly tracing so the police can interview and assess the dog's temperament. WHEN WILL PEOPLE LEARN TO MUZZLE THEIR DOGS.ALL DOGS. Hope this poor child recovers mentally. shaft
  • Score: -46

2:27pm Wed 19 Feb 14

shaft says...

MngsMnr wrote:
we-shall-see wrote: The problem here is two-fold - when dogs feel threatened they are likely to bite. If the child - which was obviously unknown to the dog went over to him - she would probably have been face to face with him because of her age and height. Dog then felt threatened and bit her - which does not necessarily make it a vicious dog, just a nervous one perhaps. Toddlers can and DO move quickly and mothers cannot always have their eyes on them every second, as seems to be the case here. Likewise, toddlers do not always do as they have been told - such as not touching dogs - and anyone who says otherwise has obviously never had a toddler!! At the end of the day, the child is not badly hurt and the owner should have come forward at the time and if she has any sense she will muzzle her dog in future. I hope the child will heal without scars and if anything good is to come out of this, she may be a little more wary of dogs in the future.
Couldn't have put it better myself. I don't get the full picture here though - surely the mother would have gone into pharmacy or waited till owner came out? The owner is probably unaware this even happened. When are people going to learn that dogs and small children should never be together unsupervised. I can see where dogs are coming from when they snap/bite. It would p*ss me off too being prodded in the eye/ear/nose which is what kids seem to do best to dogs. Dogs as pets are NOT wild animals in the same context as we are no longer apes! (most of us anyway)
Also you don’t need Sherlock to tell you that the owner popped into Tesco or chemist while
The dog was tied up. I’m guessing both have CCTV – get the owners image – print it in the ECHO.
[quote][p][bold]MngsMnr[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]we-shall-see[/bold] wrote: The problem here is two-fold - when dogs feel threatened they are likely to bite. If the child - which was obviously unknown to the dog went over to him - she would probably have been face to face with him because of her age and height. Dog then felt threatened and bit her - which does not necessarily make it a vicious dog, just a nervous one perhaps. Toddlers can and DO move quickly and mothers cannot always have their eyes on them every second, as seems to be the case here. Likewise, toddlers do not always do as they have been told - such as not touching dogs - and anyone who says otherwise has obviously never had a toddler!! At the end of the day, the child is not badly hurt and the owner should have come forward at the time and if she has any sense she will muzzle her dog in future. I hope the child will heal without scars and if anything good is to come out of this, she may be a little more wary of dogs in the future.[/p][/quote]Couldn't have put it better myself. I don't get the full picture here though - surely the mother would have gone into pharmacy or waited till owner came out? The owner is probably unaware this even happened. When are people going to learn that dogs and small children should never be together unsupervised. I can see where dogs are coming from when they snap/bite. It would p*ss me off too being prodded in the eye/ear/nose which is what kids seem to do best to dogs. Dogs as pets are NOT wild animals in the same context as we are no longer apes! (most of us anyway)[/p][/quote]Also you don’t need Sherlock to tell you that the owner popped into Tesco or chemist while The dog was tied up. I’m guessing both have CCTV – get the owners image – print it in the ECHO. shaft
  • Score: -15

2:55pm Wed 19 Feb 14

yummybrummy in bournemouth says...

lilliputian wrote:
yummybrummy in bournemouth wrote:
lilliputian wrote:
"offending dog"??.....rather the child's mother at fault for not training daughter that it is unwise to approach strange dogs.
And I suppose that when you were two years old you never went near anything hot, never pinched a biscuit, didn't jump in puddles...
Your parents could make a fortune writing a book on how to raise a perfectly obedient child.
As to the incident... poor kid. Hope she recovers quickly. And my sympathies to the mother. One moment distraction can be costly.
You patently fail to grasp the issue here; it is not about 'obedience', but supervision, which was clearly lacking from the parent, who perhaps is rather less worthy of your 'sympathies' (whatever they are worth), than the child, who DOES deserve sympathy.
So if it's about supervision why did you say the child should have been trained?
[quote][p][bold]lilliputian[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]yummybrummy in bournemouth[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lilliputian[/bold] wrote: "offending dog"??.....rather the child's mother at fault for not training daughter that it is unwise to approach strange dogs.[/p][/quote]And I suppose that when you were two years old you never went near anything hot, never pinched a biscuit, didn't jump in puddles... Your parents could make a fortune writing a book on how to raise a perfectly obedient child. As to the incident... poor kid. Hope she recovers quickly. And my sympathies to the mother. One moment distraction can be costly.[/p][/quote]You patently fail to grasp the issue here; it is not about 'obedience', but supervision, which was clearly lacking from the parent, who perhaps is rather less worthy of your 'sympathies' (whatever they are worth), than the child, who DOES deserve sympathy.[/p][/quote]So if it's about supervision why did you say the child should have been trained? yummybrummy in bournemouth
  • Score: -9

2:58pm Wed 19 Feb 14

goatty says...

shaft wrote:
The Dog has bitten the girl on the face not the arm or hand meaning this animal has a vicious nature towards people in turn the dog should have been muzzled if left outside of the shop. The owner and Dog need quickly tracing so the police can interview and assess the dog's temperament. WHEN WILL PEOPLE LEARN TO MUZZLE THEIR DOGS.ALL DOGS. Hope this poor child recovers mentally.
What a ridiculous comment. Why should all dogs be muzzled? Are you saying that if a teenager has a fight in school and banned all teenagers should banned as well??
No doubt this kid had her face in the dogs face and so it nipped her in the nearest place which happened to be her face.
Typical response from a dog hater who dramatises everything as they cannot stand dogs.
Perhaps society would be better off if we muzzled people like you!
[quote][p][bold]shaft[/bold] wrote: The Dog has bitten the girl on the face not the arm or hand meaning this animal has a vicious nature towards people in turn the dog should have been muzzled if left outside of the shop. The owner and Dog need quickly tracing so the police can interview and assess the dog's temperament. WHEN WILL PEOPLE LEARN TO MUZZLE THEIR DOGS.ALL DOGS. Hope this poor child recovers mentally.[/p][/quote]What a ridiculous comment. Why should all dogs be muzzled? Are you saying that if a teenager has a fight in school and banned all teenagers should banned as well?? No doubt this kid had her face in the dogs face and so it nipped her in the nearest place which happened to be her face. Typical response from a dog hater who dramatises everything as they cannot stand dogs. Perhaps society would be better off if we muzzled people like you! goatty
  • Score: 28

2:59pm Wed 19 Feb 14

yummybrummy in bournemouth says...

I'm really surprised at some of the comments here.
Kid's been bitten. Mother being vilified.
Whatever happened to sympathy and kindness?
I'm really surprised at some of the comments here. Kid's been bitten. Mother being vilified. Whatever happened to sympathy and kindness? yummybrummy in bournemouth
  • Score: -17

3:01pm Wed 19 Feb 14

muscliffman says...

shaft wrote:
The Dog has bitten the girl on the face not the arm or hand meaning this animal has a vicious nature towards people in turn the dog should have been muzzled if left outside of the shop. The owner and Dog need quickly tracing so the police can interview and assess the dog's temperament. WHEN WILL PEOPLE LEARN TO MUZZLE THEIR DOGS.ALL DOGS. Hope this poor child recovers mentally.
It's not all dog's that need muzzling, it's people coming up with ill informed kneejerk idiot comments like this that do!
[quote][p][bold]shaft[/bold] wrote: The Dog has bitten the girl on the face not the arm or hand meaning this animal has a vicious nature towards people in turn the dog should have been muzzled if left outside of the shop. The owner and Dog need quickly tracing so the police can interview and assess the dog's temperament. WHEN WILL PEOPLE LEARN TO MUZZLE THEIR DOGS.ALL DOGS. Hope this poor child recovers mentally.[/p][/quote]It's not all dog's that need muzzling, it's people coming up with ill informed kneejerk idiot comments like this that do! muscliffman
  • Score: 23

3:01pm Wed 19 Feb 14

PeachesRolls says...

I feel very sorry that the little girl has been bitten, thankfully not seriously, but as parents we have to instil safe behaviour into our children. Going up to a dog that you don't know is not safe or sensible and borders on irresponsible. I am a dog owner and trust my dog ALMOST completely. A dog is a dog; you should NEVER trust them completely however friendly they are and I would always be extremely careful with her when around children especially those that are at head height. It really is stupid to allow a 2 year old to approach a dog without asking the owner's permission first.
I feel very sorry that the little girl has been bitten, thankfully not seriously, but as parents we have to instil safe behaviour into our children. Going up to a dog that you don't know is not safe or sensible and borders on irresponsible. I am a dog owner and trust my dog ALMOST completely. A dog is a dog; you should NEVER trust them completely however friendly they are and I would always be extremely careful with her when around children especially those that are at head height. It really is stupid to allow a 2 year old to approach a dog without asking the owner's permission first. PeachesRolls
  • Score: 18

3:06pm Wed 19 Feb 14

lilliputian says...

yummybrummy in bournemouth wrote:
lilliputian wrote:
yummybrummy in bournemouth wrote:
lilliputian wrote:
"offending dog"??.....rather the child's mother at fault for not training daughter that it is unwise to approach strange dogs.
And I suppose that when you were two years old you never went near anything hot, never pinched a biscuit, didn't jump in puddles...
Your parents could make a fortune writing a book on how to raise a perfectly obedient child.
As to the incident... poor kid. Hope she recovers quickly. And my sympathies to the mother. One moment distraction can be costly.
You patently fail to grasp the issue here; it is not about 'obedience', but supervision, which was clearly lacking from the parent, who perhaps is rather less worthy of your 'sympathies' (whatever they are worth), than the child, who DOES deserve sympathy.
So if it's about supervision why did you say the child should have been trained?
As you so clearly need the obvious pointed out to you in very simple terms, the most effective training takes place under supervision, the lack of which from the parent virtually everyone, bar yourself, commenting on this incident seems able to grasp.
[quote][p][bold]yummybrummy in bournemouth[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lilliputian[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]yummybrummy in bournemouth[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lilliputian[/bold] wrote: "offending dog"??.....rather the child's mother at fault for not training daughter that it is unwise to approach strange dogs.[/p][/quote]And I suppose that when you were two years old you never went near anything hot, never pinched a biscuit, didn't jump in puddles... Your parents could make a fortune writing a book on how to raise a perfectly obedient child. As to the incident... poor kid. Hope she recovers quickly. And my sympathies to the mother. One moment distraction can be costly.[/p][/quote]You patently fail to grasp the issue here; it is not about 'obedience', but supervision, which was clearly lacking from the parent, who perhaps is rather less worthy of your 'sympathies' (whatever they are worth), than the child, who DOES deserve sympathy.[/p][/quote]So if it's about supervision why did you say the child should have been trained?[/p][/quote]As you so clearly need the obvious pointed out to you in very simple terms, the most effective training takes place under supervision, the lack of which from the parent virtually everyone, bar yourself, commenting on this incident seems able to grasp. lilliputian
  • Score: 8

3:18pm Wed 19 Feb 14

yummybrummy in bournemouth says...

lilliputian wrote:
yummybrummy in bournemouth wrote:
lilliputian wrote:
yummybrummy in bournemouth wrote:
lilliputian wrote:
"offending dog"??.....rather the child's mother at fault for not training daughter that it is unwise to approach strange dogs.
And I suppose that when you were two years old you never went near anything hot, never pinched a biscuit, didn't jump in puddles...
Your parents could make a fortune writing a book on how to raise a perfectly obedient child.
As to the incident... poor kid. Hope she recovers quickly. And my sympathies to the mother. One moment distraction can be costly.
You patently fail to grasp the issue here; it is not about 'obedience', but supervision, which was clearly lacking from the parent, who perhaps is rather less worthy of your 'sympathies' (whatever they are worth), than the child, who DOES deserve sympathy.
So if it's about supervision why did you say the child should have been trained?
As you so clearly need the obvious pointed out to you in very simple terms, the most effective training takes place under supervision, the lack of which from the parent virtually everyone, bar yourself, commenting on this incident seems able to grasp.
Well, you obviously also need the obvious pointed out to you.
Dogs have teeth.
Unattended dogs are capable of causing injury (as are dogs with their owners).
Children, as you say have to be taught things. Mothers can be distracted and ACCIDENTS HAPPEN
If you made any kind of mistake which resulted in injury to another person, especially a child, how would you like to be the object of the kind of comments posted here?
[quote][p][bold]lilliputian[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]yummybrummy in bournemouth[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lilliputian[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]yummybrummy in bournemouth[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lilliputian[/bold] wrote: "offending dog"??.....rather the child's mother at fault for not training daughter that it is unwise to approach strange dogs.[/p][/quote]And I suppose that when you were two years old you never went near anything hot, never pinched a biscuit, didn't jump in puddles... Your parents could make a fortune writing a book on how to raise a perfectly obedient child. As to the incident... poor kid. Hope she recovers quickly. And my sympathies to the mother. One moment distraction can be costly.[/p][/quote]You patently fail to grasp the issue here; it is not about 'obedience', but supervision, which was clearly lacking from the parent, who perhaps is rather less worthy of your 'sympathies' (whatever they are worth), than the child, who DOES deserve sympathy.[/p][/quote]So if it's about supervision why did you say the child should have been trained?[/p][/quote]As you so clearly need the obvious pointed out to you in very simple terms, the most effective training takes place under supervision, the lack of which from the parent virtually everyone, bar yourself, commenting on this incident seems able to grasp.[/p][/quote]Well, you obviously also need the obvious pointed out to you. Dogs have teeth. Unattended dogs are capable of causing injury (as are dogs with their owners). Children, as you say have to be taught things. Mothers can be distracted and ACCIDENTS HAPPEN If you made any kind of mistake which resulted in injury to another person, especially a child, how would you like to be the object of the kind of comments posted here? yummybrummy in bournemouth
  • Score: -6

3:22pm Wed 19 Feb 14

recce45 says...

Another example of poor parenting and then trying to shed the blame and put it on the dog. Why on earth would you let your kid go up to a dog you don't know and stroke it. People like this should not be allowed kids.Would you let your kid go up to a complete stranger in the park too..? No doubt looking for a claim. and more than likely a council chav whose kid is called Britany or Tyrone . More I read papers more I see how stupid people are with a complete lack of moral responsibility.
Another example of poor parenting and then trying to shed the blame and put it on the dog. Why on earth would you let your kid go up to a dog you don't know and stroke it. People like this should not be allowed kids.Would you let your kid go up to a complete stranger in the park too..? No doubt looking for a claim. and more than likely a council chav whose kid is called Britany or Tyrone . More I read papers more I see how stupid people are with a complete lack of moral responsibility. recce45
  • Score: 7

3:26pm Wed 19 Feb 14

yummybrummy in bournemouth says...

I suppose you've all read this in todays national paper?

The body of six day old Eliza-Mae Martha Mullane was found by her mother Sharon John after the infant was apparently mauled by a male Alaskan Malamute

Bring on the red arrows!
I suppose you've all read this in todays national paper? The body of six day old Eliza-Mae Martha Mullane was found by her mother Sharon John after the infant was apparently mauled by a male Alaskan Malamute Bring on the red arrows! yummybrummy in bournemouth
  • Score: -13

3:32pm Wed 19 Feb 14

recce45 says...

Thanks yummybrummy for proving my point on how stupid people are nowadays. I truly do appreciate it
Thanks yummybrummy for proving my point on how stupid people are nowadays. I truly do appreciate it recce45
  • Score: 11

3:42pm Wed 19 Feb 14

ranger_bob says...

Apart from various types of working/assistance dogs there really is no need to have all of these dogs on our streets these days. Not only do they/their owners lear their poop all over the place but attacks on people are becoming more and more common place these days, especially with the trend of keeping "status" dogs.

The answer is easy, just get rid. One purge, you clean up the streets, you stop the dog attacks and believe it or not you also drastically reduce CO2 emmissions.

For those who want company. get a budgie, at least they'll talk back to you if your lucky!
Apart from various types of working/assistance dogs there really is no need to have all of these dogs on our streets these days. Not only do they/their owners lear their poop all over the place but attacks on people are becoming more and more common place these days, especially with the trend of keeping "status" dogs. The answer is easy, just get rid. One purge, you clean up the streets, you stop the dog attacks and believe it or not you also drastically reduce CO2 emmissions. For those who want company. get a budgie, at least they'll talk back to you if your lucky! ranger_bob
  • Score: -18

3:45pm Wed 19 Feb 14

yummybrummy in bournemouth says...

recce45 wrote:
Thanks yummybrummy for proving my point on how stupid people are nowadays. I truly do appreciate it
Little thing please little minds...
[quote][p][bold]recce45[/bold] wrote: Thanks yummybrummy for proving my point on how stupid people are nowadays. I truly do appreciate it[/p][/quote]Little thing please little minds... yummybrummy in bournemouth
  • Score: -17

4:23pm Wed 19 Feb 14

suzigirl says...

PeachesRolls wrote:
I feel very sorry that the little girl has been bitten, thankfully not seriously, but as parents we have to instil safe behaviour into our children. Going up to a dog that you don't know is not safe or sensible and borders on irresponsible. I am a dog owner and trust my dog ALMOST completely. A dog is a dog; you should NEVER trust them completely however friendly they are and I would always be extremely careful with her when around children especially those that are at head height. It really is stupid to allow a 2 year old to approach a dog without asking the owner's permission first.
I trust my dog 100%
[quote][p][bold]PeachesRolls[/bold] wrote: I feel very sorry that the little girl has been bitten, thankfully not seriously, but as parents we have to instil safe behaviour into our children. Going up to a dog that you don't know is not safe or sensible and borders on irresponsible. I am a dog owner and trust my dog ALMOST completely. A dog is a dog; you should NEVER trust them completely however friendly they are and I would always be extremely careful with her when around children especially those that are at head height. It really is stupid to allow a 2 year old to approach a dog without asking the owner's permission first.[/p][/quote]I trust my dog 100% suzigirl
  • Score: -9

4:58pm Wed 19 Feb 14

recce45 says...

Ranger bob is a scientist by the sounds of it...

Far more attacks in one weekend in Bournemouth Town Centre by chavs than dog bites all year. But again what stupid parent lets their kid stroke a strange dog.. .. Maybe was ranger bob, His intellect around same level
Ranger bob is a scientist by the sounds of it... Far more attacks in one weekend in Bournemouth Town Centre by chavs than dog bites all year. But again what stupid parent lets their kid stroke a strange dog.. .. Maybe was ranger bob, His intellect around same level recce45
  • Score: 8

5:12pm Wed 19 Feb 14

ranger_bob says...

recce45 wrote:
Ranger bob is a scientist by the sounds of it...

Far more attacks in one weekend in Bournemouth Town Centre by chavs than dog bites all year. But again what stupid parent lets their kid stroke a strange dog.. .. Maybe was ranger bob, His intellect around same level
Some days it really is too easy.
[quote][p][bold]recce45[/bold] wrote: Ranger bob is a scientist by the sounds of it... Far more attacks in one weekend in Bournemouth Town Centre by chavs than dog bites all year. But again what stupid parent lets their kid stroke a strange dog.. .. Maybe was ranger bob, His intellect around same level[/p][/quote]Some days it really is too easy. ranger_bob
  • Score: 0

6:16pm Wed 19 Feb 14

cromwell9 says...

ranger_bob wrote:
Apart from various types of working/assistance dogs there really is no need to have all of these dogs on our streets these days. Not only do they/their owners lear their poop all over the place but attacks on people are becoming more and more common place these days, especially with the trend of keeping "status" dogs.

The answer is easy, just get rid. One purge, you clean up the streets, you stop the dog attacks and believe it or not you also drastically reduce CO2 emmissions.

For those who want company. get a budgie, at least they'll talk back to you if your lucky!
You are obviously not a dog lover.But let me tell you .
Dogs were on this planet millions of years before humans arrived,and have every right to be here .
They are agreat asset to humans,and will lay down their lives to protect us .
You horrible little man.
[quote][p][bold]ranger_bob[/bold] wrote: Apart from various types of working/assistance dogs there really is no need to have all of these dogs on our streets these days. Not only do they/their owners lear their poop all over the place but attacks on people are becoming more and more common place these days, especially with the trend of keeping "status" dogs. The answer is easy, just get rid. One purge, you clean up the streets, you stop the dog attacks and believe it or not you also drastically reduce CO2 emmissions. For those who want company. get a budgie, at least they'll talk back to you if your lucky![/p][/quote]You are obviously not a dog lover.But let me tell you . Dogs were on this planet millions of years before humans arrived,and have every right to be here . They are agreat asset to humans,and will lay down their lives to protect us . You horrible little man. cromwell9
  • Score: 10

6:16pm Wed 19 Feb 14

cromwell9 says...

ranger_bob wrote:
Apart from various types of working/assistance dogs there really is no need to have all of these dogs on our streets these days. Not only do they/their owners lear their poop all over the place but attacks on people are becoming more and more common place these days, especially with the trend of keeping "status" dogs.

The answer is easy, just get rid. One purge, you clean up the streets, you stop the dog attacks and believe it or not you also drastically reduce CO2 emmissions.

For those who want company. get a budgie, at least they'll talk back to you if your lucky!
You are obviously not a dog lover.But let me tell you .
Dogs were on this planet millions of years before humans arrived,and have every right to be here .
They are agreat asset to humans,and will lay down their lives to protect us .
You horrible little man.
[quote][p][bold]ranger_bob[/bold] wrote: Apart from various types of working/assistance dogs there really is no need to have all of these dogs on our streets these days. Not only do they/their owners lear their poop all over the place but attacks on people are becoming more and more common place these days, especially with the trend of keeping "status" dogs. The answer is easy, just get rid. One purge, you clean up the streets, you stop the dog attacks and believe it or not you also drastically reduce CO2 emmissions. For those who want company. get a budgie, at least they'll talk back to you if your lucky![/p][/quote]You are obviously not a dog lover.But let me tell you . Dogs were on this planet millions of years before humans arrived,and have every right to be here . They are agreat asset to humans,and will lay down their lives to protect us . You horrible little man. cromwell9
  • Score: 3

6:18pm Wed 19 Feb 14

stevobath says...

ranger_bob wrote:
Apart from various types of working/assistance dogs there really is no need to have all of these dogs on our streets these days. Not only do they/their owners lear their poop all over the place but attacks on people are becoming more and more common place these days, especially with the trend of keeping "status" dogs.

The answer is easy, just get rid. One purge, you clean up the streets, you stop the dog attacks and believe it or not you also drastically reduce CO2 emmissions.

For those who want company. get a budgie, at least they'll talk back to you if your lucky!
CO2 Emissions?

You're a bit ????

Personally I never leave my dog tied up alone outside shops. That way it avoids any incidents, such as this.

I wouldn't go up to a dog, tied up outside a shop unless I knew the dog.

Dogs will act different when on a lead & especially so when tied up & left alone.
Surely a toddler should be within easy reach, especially on a pavement? What if the kid had strayed into the Rd & gotten run over? Ban all cars? Take the Mum to court for neglect?
Sometimes things like this happen. Before the 'Digital Age' I doubt this would've been given more than a sentence in the ECHO.

Hopefully the child will recover?
There are a few neurotic people commenting...CO2 emissions? Weird. Obviously must have read a Daily Mail article on how 'Bull Terriers, are responsible for climate change & the collapse of the World Wide Capitalist System'? Probably at fault for the floods too?
I presume you've spent time at the Hotel in Haven Rd?
[quote][p][bold]ranger_bob[/bold] wrote: Apart from various types of working/assistance dogs there really is no need to have all of these dogs on our streets these days. Not only do they/their owners lear their poop all over the place but attacks on people are becoming more and more common place these days, especially with the trend of keeping "status" dogs. The answer is easy, just get rid. One purge, you clean up the streets, you stop the dog attacks and believe it or not you also drastically reduce CO2 emmissions. For those who want company. get a budgie, at least they'll talk back to you if your lucky![/p][/quote]CO2 Emissions? You're a bit ???? Personally I never leave my dog tied up alone outside shops. That way it avoids any incidents, such as this. I wouldn't go up to a dog, tied up outside a shop unless I knew the dog. Dogs will act different when on a lead & especially so when tied up & left alone. Surely a toddler should be within easy reach, especially on a pavement? What if the kid had strayed into the Rd & gotten run over? Ban all cars? Take the Mum to court for neglect? Sometimes things like this happen. Before the 'Digital Age' I doubt this would've been given more than a sentence in the ECHO. Hopefully the child will recover? There are a few neurotic people commenting...CO2 emissions? Weird. Obviously must have read a Daily Mail article on how 'Bull Terriers, are responsible for climate change & the collapse of the World Wide Capitalist System'? Probably at fault for the floods too? I presume you've spent time at the Hotel in Haven Rd? stevobath
  • Score: 7

7:02pm Wed 19 Feb 14

ashleycross says...

This is a complete waste of police time and resources. If anything social services should be checking on what other stupid things this mother is letting her daughter do. Playing with bleach? Doing the ironing? Crossing the road on her own? Dogs are not toys. Stroking a dog you don't know, especially if it is tied up, is just stupid.
This is a complete waste of police time and resources. If anything social services should be checking on what other stupid things this mother is letting her daughter do. Playing with bleach? Doing the ironing? Crossing the road on her own? Dogs are not toys. Stroking a dog you don't know, especially if it is tied up, is just stupid. ashleycross
  • Score: 7

7:03pm Wed 19 Feb 14

ranger_bob says...

stevobath wrote:
ranger_bob wrote:
Apart from various types of working/assistance dogs there really is no need to have all of these dogs on our streets these days. Not only do they/their owners lear their poop all over the place but attacks on people are becoming more and more common place these days, especially with the trend of keeping "status" dogs.

The answer is easy, just get rid. One purge, you clean up the streets, you stop the dog attacks and believe it or not you also drastically reduce CO2 emmissions.

For those who want company. get a budgie, at least they'll talk back to you if your lucky!
CO2 Emissions?

You're a bit ????

Personally I never leave my dog tied up alone outside shops. That way it avoids any incidents, such as this.

I wouldn't go up to a dog, tied up outside a shop unless I knew the dog.

Dogs will act different when on a lead & especially so when tied up & left alone.
Surely a toddler should be within easy reach, especially on a pavement? What if the kid had strayed into the Rd & gotten run over? Ban all cars? Take the Mum to court for neglect?
Sometimes things like this happen. Before the 'Digital Age' I doubt this would've been given more than a sentence in the ECHO.

Hopefully the child will recover?
There are a few neurotic people commenting...CO2 emissions? Weird. Obviously must have read a Daily Mail article on how 'Bull Terriers, are responsible for climate change & the collapse of the World Wide Capitalist System'? Probably at fault for the floods too?
I presume you've spent time at the Hotel in Haven Rd?
Here you go, try doing a little bit of research before you jump to a conclusion:-

http://www.telegraph
.co.uk/earth/environ
ment/climatechange/6
416683/Pet-dogs-as-b
ad-for-planet-as-dri
ving-4x4s-book-claim
s.html
[quote][p][bold]stevobath[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ranger_bob[/bold] wrote: Apart from various types of working/assistance dogs there really is no need to have all of these dogs on our streets these days. Not only do they/their owners lear their poop all over the place but attacks on people are becoming more and more common place these days, especially with the trend of keeping "status" dogs. The answer is easy, just get rid. One purge, you clean up the streets, you stop the dog attacks and believe it or not you also drastically reduce CO2 emmissions. For those who want company. get a budgie, at least they'll talk back to you if your lucky![/p][/quote]CO2 Emissions? You're a bit ???? Personally I never leave my dog tied up alone outside shops. That way it avoids any incidents, such as this. I wouldn't go up to a dog, tied up outside a shop unless I knew the dog. Dogs will act different when on a lead & especially so when tied up & left alone. Surely a toddler should be within easy reach, especially on a pavement? What if the kid had strayed into the Rd & gotten run over? Ban all cars? Take the Mum to court for neglect? Sometimes things like this happen. Before the 'Digital Age' I doubt this would've been given more than a sentence in the ECHO. Hopefully the child will recover? There are a few neurotic people commenting...CO2 emissions? Weird. Obviously must have read a Daily Mail article on how 'Bull Terriers, are responsible for climate change & the collapse of the World Wide Capitalist System'? Probably at fault for the floods too? I presume you've spent time at the Hotel in Haven Rd?[/p][/quote]Here you go, try doing a little bit of research before you jump to a conclusion:- http://www.telegraph .co.uk/earth/environ ment/climatechange/6 416683/Pet-dogs-as-b ad-for-planet-as-dri ving-4x4s-book-claim s.html ranger_bob
  • Score: -4

7:08pm Wed 19 Feb 14

ashleycross says...

shaft wrote:
MngsMnr wrote:
we-shall-see wrote: The problem here is two-fold - when dogs feel threatened they are likely to bite. If the child - which was obviously unknown to the dog went over to him - she would probably have been face to face with him because of her age and height. Dog then felt threatened and bit her - which does not necessarily make it a vicious dog, just a nervous one perhaps. Toddlers can and DO move quickly and mothers cannot always have their eyes on them every second, as seems to be the case here. Likewise, toddlers do not always do as they have been told - such as not touching dogs - and anyone who says otherwise has obviously never had a toddler!! At the end of the day, the child is not badly hurt and the owner should have come forward at the time and if she has any sense she will muzzle her dog in future. I hope the child will heal without scars and if anything good is to come out of this, she may be a little more wary of dogs in the future.
Couldn't have put it better myself. I don't get the full picture here though - surely the mother would have gone into pharmacy or waited till owner came out? The owner is probably unaware this even happened. When are people going to learn that dogs and small children should never be together unsupervised. I can see where dogs are coming from when they snap/bite. It would p*ss me off too being prodded in the eye/ear/nose which is what kids seem to do best to dogs. Dogs as pets are NOT wild animals in the same context as we are no longer apes! (most of us anyway)
Also you don’t need Sherlock to tell you that the owner popped into Tesco or chemist while
The dog was tied up. I’m guessing both have CCTV – get the owners image – print it in the ECHO.
I've seen a toddler turn a baby's eyelids inside out when left alone with it for a few minutes, not my children I hasten to add. Very scary for a dog to be tied up and approached by a toddler, however, cute. They just jab at the eyes.Basically if their mum isn't watching them they will do whatever it takes to get their mum to watch them.
Ask some vets for comments about the damage a toddler can do to a dog.
[quote][p][bold]shaft[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MngsMnr[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]we-shall-see[/bold] wrote: The problem here is two-fold - when dogs feel threatened they are likely to bite. If the child - which was obviously unknown to the dog went over to him - she would probably have been face to face with him because of her age and height. Dog then felt threatened and bit her - which does not necessarily make it a vicious dog, just a nervous one perhaps. Toddlers can and DO move quickly and mothers cannot always have their eyes on them every second, as seems to be the case here. Likewise, toddlers do not always do as they have been told - such as not touching dogs - and anyone who says otherwise has obviously never had a toddler!! At the end of the day, the child is not badly hurt and the owner should have come forward at the time and if she has any sense she will muzzle her dog in future. I hope the child will heal without scars and if anything good is to come out of this, she may be a little more wary of dogs in the future.[/p][/quote]Couldn't have put it better myself. I don't get the full picture here though - surely the mother would have gone into pharmacy or waited till owner came out? The owner is probably unaware this even happened. When are people going to learn that dogs and small children should never be together unsupervised. I can see where dogs are coming from when they snap/bite. It would p*ss me off too being prodded in the eye/ear/nose which is what kids seem to do best to dogs. Dogs as pets are NOT wild animals in the same context as we are no longer apes! (most of us anyway)[/p][/quote]Also you don’t need Sherlock to tell you that the owner popped into Tesco or chemist while The dog was tied up. I’m guessing both have CCTV – get the owners image – print it in the ECHO.[/p][/quote]I've seen a toddler turn a baby's eyelids inside out when left alone with it for a few minutes, not my children I hasten to add. Very scary for a dog to be tied up and approached by a toddler, however, cute. They just jab at the eyes.Basically if their mum isn't watching them they will do whatever it takes to get their mum to watch them. Ask some vets for comments about the damage a toddler can do to a dog. ashleycross
  • Score: 10

7:11pm Wed 19 Feb 14

ranger_bob says...

cromwell9 wrote:
ranger_bob wrote:
Apart from various types of working/assistance dogs there really is no need to have all of these dogs on our streets these days. Not only do they/their owners lear their poop all over the place but attacks on people are becoming more and more common place these days, especially with the trend of keeping "status" dogs.

The answer is easy, just get rid. One purge, you clean up the streets, you stop the dog attacks and believe it or not you also drastically reduce CO2 emmissions.

For those who want company. get a budgie, at least they'll talk back to you if your lucky!
You are obviously not a dog lover.But let me tell you .
Dogs were on this planet millions of years before humans arrived,and have every right to be here .
They are agreat asset to humans,and will lay down their lives to protect us .
You horrible little man.
And another bite. Go back to your colouring in, but don't eat the crayons!
[quote][p][bold]cromwell9[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ranger_bob[/bold] wrote: Apart from various types of working/assistance dogs there really is no need to have all of these dogs on our streets these days. Not only do they/their owners lear their poop all over the place but attacks on people are becoming more and more common place these days, especially with the trend of keeping "status" dogs. The answer is easy, just get rid. One purge, you clean up the streets, you stop the dog attacks and believe it or not you also drastically reduce CO2 emmissions. For those who want company. get a budgie, at least they'll talk back to you if your lucky![/p][/quote]You are obviously not a dog lover.But let me tell you . Dogs were on this planet millions of years before humans arrived,and have every right to be here . They are agreat asset to humans,and will lay down their lives to protect us . You horrible little man.[/p][/quote]And another bite. Go back to your colouring in, but don't eat the crayons! ranger_bob
  • Score: -6

7:29pm Wed 19 Feb 14

shaft says...

goatty wrote:
shaft wrote:
The Dog has bitten the girl on the face not the arm or hand meaning this animal has a vicious nature towards people in turn the dog should have been muzzled if left outside of the shop. The owner and Dog need quickly tracing so the police can interview and assess the dog's temperament. WHEN WILL PEOPLE LEARN TO MUZZLE THEIR DOGS.ALL DOGS. Hope this poor child recovers mentally.
What a ridiculous comment. Why should all dogs be muzzled? Are you saying that if a teenager has a fight in school and banned all teenagers should banned as well??
No doubt this kid had her face in the dogs face and so it nipped her in the nearest place which happened to be her face.
Typical response from a dog hater who dramatises everything as they cannot stand dogs.
Perhaps society would be better off if we muzzled people like you!
What a really sad response. Bottom line is a good dog owner that's dog as a temperament to bite should either muzzle their dog or not leave it unattended period. Now move a long chummy however i liked the muzzle comment bit. Funny. Enjoy your day time tv. Lol.
[quote][p][bold]goatty[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]shaft[/bold] wrote: The Dog has bitten the girl on the face not the arm or hand meaning this animal has a vicious nature towards people in turn the dog should have been muzzled if left outside of the shop. The owner and Dog need quickly tracing so the police can interview and assess the dog's temperament. WHEN WILL PEOPLE LEARN TO MUZZLE THEIR DOGS.ALL DOGS. Hope this poor child recovers mentally.[/p][/quote]What a ridiculous comment. Why should all dogs be muzzled? Are you saying that if a teenager has a fight in school and banned all teenagers should banned as well?? No doubt this kid had her face in the dogs face and so it nipped her in the nearest place which happened to be her face. Typical response from a dog hater who dramatises everything as they cannot stand dogs. Perhaps society would be better off if we muzzled people like you![/p][/quote]What a really sad response. Bottom line is a good dog owner that's dog as a temperament to bite should either muzzle their dog or not leave it unattended period. Now move a long chummy however i liked the muzzle comment bit. Funny. Enjoy your day time tv. Lol. shaft
  • Score: -6

8:31pm Wed 19 Feb 14

mgibbs says...

Taking a dog out in public is like taking a loaded gun out and should not be left unattended. What everybody misses here that Rowlands is a stones throw away from from not only the Epiphany School, but a short distance from Muscliffe school and opposite James Fisher medical center. Which is a high traffic area for children and toddlers. This dog need to be identified and precautions taken before another child gets hurt or worse. Epiphany school have a no dogs on school property and encourage people not to tir up and leave dogs unattended around school during pick up/ drop off times.
Taking a dog out in public is like taking a loaded gun out and should not be left unattended. What everybody misses here that Rowlands is a stones throw away from from not only the Epiphany School, but a short distance from Muscliffe school and opposite James Fisher medical center. Which is a high traffic area for children and toddlers. This dog need to be identified and precautions taken before another child gets hurt or worse. Epiphany school have a no dogs on school property and encourage people not to tir up and leave dogs unattended around school during pick up/ drop off times. mgibbs
  • Score: -18

9:20pm Wed 19 Feb 14

Orangeboys says...

p.smith1958 wrote:
reallypig wrote:
p.smith1958 wrote:
Should of been muzzled and under control, the article says mother had briefly turned away,..... its the down to the dog owner..... not the mother, a child should be safe on the street
Get in the real world. A child is only safe under supervison from proper parents. Look at the bigger picture. So child runs into road and gets hit by a car! Car shouldnt have been on the road? Bitten by a spider! Put a muzzle on it? Fell into a river! Waters at falt? This is what's wrong with people, can't take responsibility for your actions.
"Bitten by a Spider, Falling into a river, getting hit by a car" can you understand how pathetic you sound, get a grip, we are talking about a DOG that the owner is responsible for AT ALL TIMES ......... the dog owner should do as you said and take responsibility for there actions.
No! The dog was tied up outside a pharmacy, minding its own business......a child has gone ahead, unsupervised, and made the dog feel threatened. I have a 2 year old, both grandparents also have dogs, she is taught not to just assume the dogs will welcome her attention, never mind a strange dog. Sorry but this is not the dog owners fault.
[quote][p][bold]p.smith1958[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]reallypig[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]p.smith1958[/bold] wrote: Should of been muzzled and under control, the article says mother had briefly turned away,..... its the down to the dog owner..... not the mother, a child should be safe on the street[/p][/quote]Get in the real world. A child is only safe under supervison from proper parents. Look at the bigger picture. So child runs into road and gets hit by a car! Car shouldnt have been on the road? Bitten by a spider! Put a muzzle on it? Fell into a river! Waters at falt? This is what's wrong with people, can't take responsibility for your actions.[/p][/quote]"Bitten by a Spider, Falling into a river, getting hit by a car" can you understand how pathetic you sound, get a grip, we are talking about a DOG that the owner is responsible for AT ALL TIMES ......... the dog owner should do as you said and take responsibility for there actions.[/p][/quote]No! The dog was tied up outside a pharmacy, minding its own business......a child has gone ahead, unsupervised, and made the dog feel threatened. I have a 2 year old, both grandparents also have dogs, she is taught not to just assume the dogs will welcome her attention, never mind a strange dog. Sorry but this is not the dog owners fault. Orangeboys
  • Score: 14

9:43pm Wed 19 Feb 14

muscliffman says...

mgibbs wrote:
Taking a dog out in public is like taking a loaded gun out and should not be left unattended. What everybody misses here that Rowlands is a stones throw away from from not only the Epiphany School, but a short distance from Muscliffe school and opposite James Fisher medical center. Which is a high traffic area for children and toddlers. This dog need to be identified and precautions taken before another child gets hurt or worse. Epiphany school have a no dogs on school property and encourage people not to tir up and leave dogs unattended around school during pick up/ drop off times.
Is this for real?

So perhaps as a sensible precaution that will doubtless appeal to this ridiculous type of mind set, it would be best to close the Surgery and both these Muscliff schools (although one is nearly a MILE away from this alleged incident) until it can be confirmed that every single pet dog in and around the area has been exterminated. It is actually rumoured locally that some parents routinely walk their dogs to both these schools alongside their own and other children, and worse still allow these dangerous 'loaded gun' pets to share their family homes!

Goodness, this story is certainly bringing the muppets out to play!
[quote][p][bold]mgibbs[/bold] wrote: Taking a dog out in public is like taking a loaded gun out and should not be left unattended. What everybody misses here that Rowlands is a stones throw away from from not only the Epiphany School, but a short distance from Muscliffe school and opposite James Fisher medical center. Which is a high traffic area for children and toddlers. This dog need to be identified and precautions taken before another child gets hurt or worse. Epiphany school have a no dogs on school property and encourage people not to tir up and leave dogs unattended around school during pick up/ drop off times.[/p][/quote]Is this for real? So perhaps as a sensible precaution that will doubtless appeal to this ridiculous type of mind set, it would be best to close the Surgery and both these Muscliff schools (although one is nearly a MILE away from this alleged incident) until it can be confirmed that every single pet dog in and around the area has been exterminated. It is actually rumoured locally that some parents routinely walk their dogs to both these schools alongside their own and other children, and worse still allow these dangerous 'loaded gun' pets to share their family homes! Goodness, this story is certainly bringing the muppets out to play! muscliffman
  • Score: 11

11:09pm Wed 19 Feb 14

camokieren says...

shaft wrote:
The Dog has bitten the girl on the face not the arm or hand meaning this animal has a vicious nature towards people in turn the dog should have been muzzled if left outside of the shop. The owner and Dog need quickly tracing so the police can interview and assess the dog's temperament. WHEN WILL PEOPLE LEARN TO MUZZLE THEIR DOGS.ALL DOGS. Hope this poor child recovers mentally.
Muzzleing dogs is not the answer. The answer is teaching kids not to walk up to dog without asking if it is ok
[quote][p][bold]shaft[/bold] wrote: The Dog has bitten the girl on the face not the arm or hand meaning this animal has a vicious nature towards people in turn the dog should have been muzzled if left outside of the shop. The owner and Dog need quickly tracing so the police can interview and assess the dog's temperament. WHEN WILL PEOPLE LEARN TO MUZZLE THEIR DOGS.ALL DOGS. Hope this poor child recovers mentally.[/p][/quote]Muzzleing dogs is not the answer. The answer is teaching kids not to walk up to dog without asking if it is ok camokieren
  • Score: 16

11:18pm Wed 19 Feb 14

camokieren says...

For the record I have a rescue dog who was badly abused by HUMANS....I am now rehabilitating him....he is always muzzled, wears a red caution collar, a yellow coat saying I need space and is double leaded.....yet the amount of ignorant ADULTS that still try to touch him and say hello....or for example whilst out walking a child appeared from nowhere once and touched him....he freaked out understandably....ye
t I was told to keep my dog under control (which he was already) to which I responded "keep your child under control"......anybod
y would freak out if someone just came up to them and touched their head so why on earth is it ok for people and children to do it to dogs? And before anyone says that my dog should have been out down think about it....dogs are not born aggressive, they are made aggressive by irresponsible humans abusing them and maltreating them...I note in the story that the mother briefly turned away from her child...EXCUSE ME? I never turn away from my dog so why would you turn away from a child....even for a second.....educating people about dogs is the way to go here.....finally I have nothing against children but some of the ones I encounter cause problems, have no respect and cause havoc yet nothing is said about them
For the record I have a rescue dog who was badly abused by HUMANS....I am now rehabilitating him....he is always muzzled, wears a red caution collar, a yellow coat saying I need space and is double leaded.....yet the amount of ignorant ADULTS that still try to touch him and say hello....or for example whilst out walking a child appeared from nowhere once and touched him....he freaked out understandably....ye t I was told to keep my dog under control (which he was already) to which I responded "keep your child under control"......anybod y would freak out if someone just came up to them and touched their head so why on earth is it ok for people and children to do it to dogs? And before anyone says that my dog should have been out down think about it....dogs are not born aggressive, they are made aggressive by irresponsible humans abusing them and maltreating them...I note in the story that the mother briefly turned away from her child...EXCUSE ME? I never turn away from my dog so why would you turn away from a child....even for a second.....educating people about dogs is the way to go here.....finally I have nothing against children but some of the ones I encounter cause problems, have no respect and cause havoc yet nothing is said about them camokieren
  • Score: 19

11:25pm Wed 19 Feb 14

camokieren says...

p.smith1958 wrote:
reallypig wrote:
p.smith1958 wrote:
Should of been muzzled and under control, the article says mother had briefly turned away,..... its the down to the dog owner..... not the mother, a child should be safe on the street
Get in the real world. A child is only safe under supervison from proper parents. Look at the bigger picture. So child runs into road and gets hit by a car! Car shouldnt have been on the road? Bitten by a spider! Put a muzzle on it? Fell into a river! Waters at falt? This is what's wrong with people, can't take responsibility for your actions.
"Bitten by a Spider, Falling into a river, getting hit by a car" can you understand how pathetic you sound, get a grip, we are talking about a DOG that the owner is responsible for AT ALL TIMES ......... the dog owner should do as you said and take responsibility for there actions.
I agree that the dog owner should take responsibility but the mother should also take responsibility for their child....simple.
[quote][p][bold]p.smith1958[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]reallypig[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]p.smith1958[/bold] wrote: Should of been muzzled and under control, the article says mother had briefly turned away,..... its the down to the dog owner..... not the mother, a child should be safe on the street[/p][/quote]Get in the real world. A child is only safe under supervison from proper parents. Look at the bigger picture. So child runs into road and gets hit by a car! Car shouldnt have been on the road? Bitten by a spider! Put a muzzle on it? Fell into a river! Waters at falt? This is what's wrong with people, can't take responsibility for your actions.[/p][/quote]"Bitten by a Spider, Falling into a river, getting hit by a car" can you understand how pathetic you sound, get a grip, we are talking about a DOG that the owner is responsible for AT ALL TIMES ......... the dog owner should do as you said and take responsibility for there actions.[/p][/quote]I agree that the dog owner should take responsibility but the mother should also take responsibility for their child....simple. camokieren
  • Score: 6

10:01am Thu 20 Feb 14

scrumpyjack says...

yummybrummy in bournemouth wrote:
I suppose you've all read this in todays national paper?

The body of six day old Eliza-Mae Martha Mullane was found by her mother Sharon John after the infant was apparently mauled by a male Alaskan Malamute

Bring on the red arrows!
Nice...

Here's another headline for you "Literally millions of children who share a home with a dog were not bitten today, or this week, or ever".
[quote][p][bold]yummybrummy in bournemouth[/bold] wrote: I suppose you've all read this in todays national paper? The body of six day old Eliza-Mae Martha Mullane was found by her mother Sharon John after the infant was apparently mauled by a male Alaskan Malamute Bring on the red arrows![/p][/quote]Nice... Here's another headline for you "Literally millions of children who share a home with a dog were not bitten today, or this week, or ever". scrumpyjack
  • Score: 10

10:10am Thu 20 Feb 14

scrumpyjack says...

mgibbs wrote:
Taking a dog out in public is like taking a loaded gun out and should not be left unattended. What everybody misses here that Rowlands is a stones throw away from from not only the Epiphany School, but a short distance from Muscliffe school and opposite James Fisher medical center. Which is a high traffic area for children and toddlers. This dog need to be identified and precautions taken before another child gets hurt or worse. Epiphany school have a no dogs on school property and encourage people not to tir up and leave dogs unattended around school during pick up/ drop off times.
And this weeks award for the "biggest and most pathetic drama queen" goes to.....
[quote][p][bold]mgibbs[/bold] wrote: Taking a dog out in public is like taking a loaded gun out and should not be left unattended. What everybody misses here that Rowlands is a stones throw away from from not only the Epiphany School, but a short distance from Muscliffe school and opposite James Fisher medical center. Which is a high traffic area for children and toddlers. This dog need to be identified and precautions taken before another child gets hurt or worse. Epiphany school have a no dogs on school property and encourage people not to tir up and leave dogs unattended around school during pick up/ drop off times.[/p][/quote]And this weeks award for the "biggest and most pathetic drama queen" goes to..... scrumpyjack
  • Score: 9

10:54am Thu 20 Feb 14

new2it says...

ranger_bob wrote:
Apart from various types of working/assistance dogs there really is no need to have all of these dogs on our streets these days. Not only do they/their owners lear their poop all over the place but attacks on people are becoming more and more common place these days, especially with the trend of keeping "status" dogs.

The answer is easy, just get rid. One purge, you clean up the streets, you stop the dog attacks and believe it or not you also drastically reduce CO2 emmissions.

For those who want company. get a budgie, at least they'll talk back to you if your lucky!
What a sweeping statement. Not all dog owners leave the poop around, I would hate to think I ever left any of my dogs pooh. As for saying there should be only working/assistance dogs, totally disagree. What about people who live alone, and enjoy the company of their dogs, plus the bonus of meeting and chatting to people when taking them for a walk? I certainly would not want to have a budgie, I don't agree with caged birds.
[quote][p][bold]ranger_bob[/bold] wrote: Apart from various types of working/assistance dogs there really is no need to have all of these dogs on our streets these days. Not only do they/their owners lear their poop all over the place but attacks on people are becoming more and more common place these days, especially with the trend of keeping "status" dogs. The answer is easy, just get rid. One purge, you clean up the streets, you stop the dog attacks and believe it or not you also drastically reduce CO2 emmissions. For those who want company. get a budgie, at least they'll talk back to you if your lucky![/p][/quote]What a sweeping statement. Not all dog owners leave the poop around, I would hate to think I ever left any of my dogs pooh. As for saying there should be only working/assistance dogs, totally disagree. What about people who live alone, and enjoy the company of their dogs, plus the bonus of meeting and chatting to people when taking them for a walk? I certainly would not want to have a budgie, I don't agree with caged birds. new2it
  • Score: 8

10:59am Thu 20 Feb 14

Sir Beachy Head says...

I used to have a Beagle. He was called Jeremy.
I used to have a Beagle. He was called Jeremy. Sir Beachy Head
  • Score: 2

11:29am Thu 20 Feb 14

Rhino No3 says...

The amount of times I have told kids and their parents to ask first before approaching my two terriers. Some of the responses I get from parents when I say this you would think I was wicked and evil. My dogs are loveable friendly pets but the way kids approach, startle, pull and grab no wonder the odd dog reacts the way it did. If I was in the same situation and believed the dog was in the wrong I would have sought out the owner and dealt with the situation. May be a lesson has been learnt the hard way and think before acting. i for one will always look at the so called victims actions before I blame any dog.
The amount of times I have told kids and their parents to ask first before approaching my two terriers. Some of the responses I get from parents when I say this you would think I was wicked and evil. My dogs are loveable friendly pets but the way kids approach, startle, pull and grab no wonder the odd dog reacts the way it did. If I was in the same situation and believed the dog was in the wrong I would have sought out the owner and dealt with the situation. May be a lesson has been learnt the hard way and think before acting. i for one will always look at the so called victims actions before I blame any dog. Rhino No3
  • Score: 6

11:33am Thu 20 Feb 14

scrumpyjack says...

Sir Beachy Head wrote:
I used to have a Beagle. He was called Jeremy.
Took 2 seconds to get it. Well I laughed even if no one else will.
[quote][p][bold]Sir Beachy Head[/bold] wrote: I used to have a Beagle. He was called Jeremy.[/p][/quote]Took 2 seconds to get it. Well I laughed even if no one else will. scrumpyjack
  • Score: 7

1:25pm Thu 20 Feb 14

stevobath says...

ranger_bob wrote:
stevobath wrote:
ranger_bob wrote:
Apart from various types of working/assistance dogs there really is no need to have all of these dogs on our streets these days. Not only do they/their owners lear their poop all over the place but attacks on people are becoming more and more common place these days, especially with the trend of keeping "status" dogs.

The answer is easy, just get rid. One purge, you clean up the streets, you stop the dog attacks and believe it or not you also drastically reduce CO2 emmissions.

For those who want company. get a budgie, at least they'll talk back to you if your lucky!
CO2 Emissions?

You're a bit ????

Personally I never leave my dog tied up alone outside shops. That way it avoids any incidents, such as this.

I wouldn't go up to a dog, tied up outside a shop unless I knew the dog.

Dogs will act different when on a lead & especially so when tied up & left alone.
Surely a toddler should be within easy reach, especially on a pavement? What if the kid had strayed into the Rd & gotten run over? Ban all cars? Take the Mum to court for neglect?
Sometimes things like this happen. Before the 'Digital Age' I doubt this would've been given more than a sentence in the ECHO.

Hopefully the child will recover?
There are a few neurotic people commenting...CO2 emissions? Weird. Obviously must have read a Daily Mail article on how 'Bull Terriers, are responsible for climate change & the collapse of the World Wide Capitalist System'? Probably at fault for the floods too?
I presume you've spent time at the Hotel in Haven Rd?
Here you go, try doing a little bit of research before you jump to a conclusion:-

http://www.telegraph

.co.uk/earth/environ

ment/climatechange/6

416683/Pet-dogs-as-b

ad-for-planet-as-dri

ving-4x4s-book-claim

s.html
The same could be said for humans in general.

If more people were vegetarians, less cows,sheep etc would be bred, thus freeing up pasture for growing crops. Where do you stop?
Wipe out wild animals?

Personally I think overall a dog is far less harmful than a 4x4. Also dogs don't spew out cancer causing chemicals & have other proven health benefits for owners IE you can't take your Range Rover for 5 mile walks!

Also I wasn't far off. Daily Mail/Telegraph typical Right Wing rubbish.
[quote][p][bold]ranger_bob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]stevobath[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ranger_bob[/bold] wrote: Apart from various types of working/assistance dogs there really is no need to have all of these dogs on our streets these days. Not only do they/their owners lear their poop all over the place but attacks on people are becoming more and more common place these days, especially with the trend of keeping "status" dogs. The answer is easy, just get rid. One purge, you clean up the streets, you stop the dog attacks and believe it or not you also drastically reduce CO2 emmissions. For those who want company. get a budgie, at least they'll talk back to you if your lucky![/p][/quote]CO2 Emissions? You're a bit ???? Personally I never leave my dog tied up alone outside shops. That way it avoids any incidents, such as this. I wouldn't go up to a dog, tied up outside a shop unless I knew the dog. Dogs will act different when on a lead & especially so when tied up & left alone. Surely a toddler should be within easy reach, especially on a pavement? What if the kid had strayed into the Rd & gotten run over? Ban all cars? Take the Mum to court for neglect? Sometimes things like this happen. Before the 'Digital Age' I doubt this would've been given more than a sentence in the ECHO. Hopefully the child will recover? There are a few neurotic people commenting...CO2 emissions? Weird. Obviously must have read a Daily Mail article on how 'Bull Terriers, are responsible for climate change & the collapse of the World Wide Capitalist System'? Probably at fault for the floods too? I presume you've spent time at the Hotel in Haven Rd?[/p][/quote]Here you go, try doing a little bit of research before you jump to a conclusion:- http://www.telegraph .co.uk/earth/environ ment/climatechange/6 416683/Pet-dogs-as-b ad-for-planet-as-dri ving-4x4s-book-claim s.html[/p][/quote]The same could be said for humans in general. If more people were vegetarians, less cows,sheep etc would be bred, thus freeing up pasture for growing crops. Where do you stop? Wipe out wild animals? Personally I think overall a dog is far less harmful than a 4x4. Also dogs don't spew out cancer causing chemicals & have other proven health benefits for owners IE you can't take your Range Rover for 5 mile walks! Also I wasn't far off. Daily Mail/Telegraph typical Right Wing rubbish. stevobath
  • Score: 0

2:47pm Thu 20 Feb 14

Southbourne Mike says...

Let those who have never once even momentarily lost track of their small children cast the first stone! We've all turned around to see 'little Johny' about to commit some horror act! In this case the poor mother turned around too late, there are too many on here villifying the poor mother who is probably traumatised enough what with her daughters injury. This could have happened to any one of us. Have sympathy for the child and a bit of empathy for the mother.
Let those who have never once even momentarily lost track of their small children cast the first stone! We've all turned around to see 'little Johny' about to commit some horror act! In this case the poor mother turned around too late, there are too many on here villifying the poor mother who is probably traumatised enough what with her daughters injury. This could have happened to any one of us. Have sympathy for the child and a bit of empathy for the mother. Southbourne Mike
  • Score: 4

9:02pm Thu 20 Feb 14

cromwell9 says...

camokieren wrote:
shaft wrote:
The Dog has bitten the girl on the face not the arm or hand meaning this animal has a vicious nature towards people in turn the dog should have been muzzled if left outside of the shop. The owner and Dog need quickly tracing so the police can interview and assess the dog's temperament. WHEN WILL PEOPLE LEARN TO MUZZLE THEIR DOGS.ALL DOGS. Hope this poor child recovers mentally.
Muzzleing dogs is not the answer. The answer is teaching kids not to walk up to dog without asking if it is ok
Some humans I know need a Muzzle.
[quote][p][bold]camokieren[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]shaft[/bold] wrote: The Dog has bitten the girl on the face not the arm or hand meaning this animal has a vicious nature towards people in turn the dog should have been muzzled if left outside of the shop. The owner and Dog need quickly tracing so the police can interview and assess the dog's temperament. WHEN WILL PEOPLE LEARN TO MUZZLE THEIR DOGS.ALL DOGS. Hope this poor child recovers mentally.[/p][/quote]Muzzleing dogs is not the answer. The answer is teaching kids not to walk up to dog without asking if it is ok[/p][/quote]Some humans I know need a Muzzle. cromwell9
  • Score: 2

9:08pm Thu 20 Feb 14

cromwell9 says...

muscliffman wrote:
mgibbs wrote:
Taking a dog out in public is like taking a loaded gun out and should not be left unattended. What everybody misses here that Rowlands is a stones throw away from from not only the Epiphany School, but a short distance from Muscliffe school and opposite James Fisher medical center. Which is a high traffic area for children and toddlers. This dog need to be identified and precautions taken before another child gets hurt or worse. Epiphany school have a no dogs on school property and encourage people not to tir up and leave dogs unattended around school during pick up/ drop off times.
Is this for real?

So perhaps as a sensible precaution that will doubtless appeal to this ridiculous type of mind set, it would be best to close the Surgery and both these Muscliff schools (although one is nearly a MILE away from this alleged incident) until it can be confirmed that every single pet dog in and around the area has been exterminated. It is actually rumoured locally that some parents routinely walk their dogs to both these schools alongside their own and other children, and worse still allow these dangerous 'loaded gun' pets to share their family homes!

Goodness, this story is certainly bringing the muppets out to play!
I wouldnt have kids today,Te spoit litte brats,
Dogs are a girls/mans best friend.
LOYAL .LOVING. protect you,and your home 24/7.
[quote][p][bold]muscliffman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mgibbs[/bold] wrote: Taking a dog out in public is like taking a loaded gun out and should not be left unattended. What everybody misses here that Rowlands is a stones throw away from from not only the Epiphany School, but a short distance from Muscliffe school and opposite James Fisher medical center. Which is a high traffic area for children and toddlers. This dog need to be identified and precautions taken before another child gets hurt or worse. Epiphany school have a no dogs on school property and encourage people not to tir up and leave dogs unattended around school during pick up/ drop off times.[/p][/quote]Is this for real? So perhaps as a sensible precaution that will doubtless appeal to this ridiculous type of mind set, it would be best to close the Surgery and both these Muscliff schools (although one is nearly a MILE away from this alleged incident) until it can be confirmed that every single pet dog in and around the area has been exterminated. It is actually rumoured locally that some parents routinely walk their dogs to both these schools alongside their own and other children, and worse still allow these dangerous 'loaded gun' pets to share their family homes! Goodness, this story is certainly bringing the muppets out to play![/p][/quote]I wouldnt have kids today,Te spoit litte brats, Dogs are a girls/mans best friend. LOYAL .LOVING. protect you,and your home 24/7. cromwell9
  • Score: 1

9:10pm Thu 20 Feb 14

cromwell9 says...

shaft wrote:
goatty wrote:
shaft wrote:
The Dog has bitten the girl on the face not the arm or hand meaning this animal has a vicious nature towards people in turn the dog should have been muzzled if left outside of the shop. The owner and Dog need quickly tracing so the police can interview and assess the dog's temperament. WHEN WILL PEOPLE LEARN TO MUZZLE THEIR DOGS.ALL DOGS. Hope this poor child recovers mentally.
What a ridiculous comment. Why should all dogs be muzzled? Are you saying that if a teenager has a fight in school and banned all teenagers should banned as well??
No doubt this kid had her face in the dogs face and so it nipped her in the nearest place which happened to be her face.
Typical response from a dog hater who dramatises everything as they cannot stand dogs.
Perhaps society would be better off if we muzzled people like you!
What a really sad response. Bottom line is a good dog owner that's dog as a temperament to bite should either muzzle their dog or not leave it unattended period. Now move a long chummy however i liked the muzzle comment bit. Funny. Enjoy your day time tv. Lol.
THe muzzle bit was not funny,
Grow UP
[quote][p][bold]shaft[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]goatty[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]shaft[/bold] wrote: The Dog has bitten the girl on the face not the arm or hand meaning this animal has a vicious nature towards people in turn the dog should have been muzzled if left outside of the shop. The owner and Dog need quickly tracing so the police can interview and assess the dog's temperament. WHEN WILL PEOPLE LEARN TO MUZZLE THEIR DOGS.ALL DOGS. Hope this poor child recovers mentally.[/p][/quote]What a ridiculous comment. Why should all dogs be muzzled? Are you saying that if a teenager has a fight in school and banned all teenagers should banned as well?? No doubt this kid had her face in the dogs face and so it nipped her in the nearest place which happened to be her face. Typical response from a dog hater who dramatises everything as they cannot stand dogs. Perhaps society would be better off if we muzzled people like you![/p][/quote]What a really sad response. Bottom line is a good dog owner that's dog as a temperament to bite should either muzzle their dog or not leave it unattended period. Now move a long chummy however i liked the muzzle comment bit. Funny. Enjoy your day time tv. Lol.[/p][/quote]THe muzzle bit was not funny, Grow UP cromwell9
  • Score: 2

11:17pm Thu 20 Feb 14

Southbourne Mike says...

cromwell9 wrote:
muscliffman wrote:
mgibbs wrote:
Taking a dog out in public is like taking a loaded gun out and should not be left unattended. What everybody misses here that Rowlands is a stones throw away from from not only the Epiphany School, but a short distance from Muscliffe school and opposite James Fisher medical center. Which is a high traffic area for children and toddlers. This dog need to be identified and precautions taken before another child gets hurt or worse. Epiphany school have a no dogs on school property and encourage people not to tir up and leave dogs unattended around school during pick up/ drop off times.
Is this for real?

So perhaps as a sensible precaution that will doubtless appeal to this ridiculous type of mind set, it would be best to close the Surgery and both these Muscliff schools (although one is nearly a MILE away from this alleged incident) until it can be confirmed that every single pet dog in and around the area has been exterminated. It is actually rumoured locally that some parents routinely walk their dogs to both these schools alongside their own and other children, and worse still allow these dangerous 'loaded gun' pets to share their family homes!

Goodness, this story is certainly bringing the muppets out to play!
I wouldnt have kids today,Te spoit litte brats,
Dogs are a girls/mans best friend.
LOYAL .LOVING. protect you,and your home 24/7.
Spoiled brats..... What a sad individual you are. I suppose you won't be drawing a pension in the future then? Or visiting and using the NHS all of which will need the continued funding of our children. A totally selfish dog owning/cat owning comment. Grow up for goodness sake. The child is 2 years old. What a ignorant twerp you really are.
[quote][p][bold]cromwell9[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]muscliffman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mgibbs[/bold] wrote: Taking a dog out in public is like taking a loaded gun out and should not be left unattended. What everybody misses here that Rowlands is a stones throw away from from not only the Epiphany School, but a short distance from Muscliffe school and opposite James Fisher medical center. Which is a high traffic area for children and toddlers. This dog need to be identified and precautions taken before another child gets hurt or worse. Epiphany school have a no dogs on school property and encourage people not to tir up and leave dogs unattended around school during pick up/ drop off times.[/p][/quote]Is this for real? So perhaps as a sensible precaution that will doubtless appeal to this ridiculous type of mind set, it would be best to close the Surgery and both these Muscliff schools (although one is nearly a MILE away from this alleged incident) until it can be confirmed that every single pet dog in and around the area has been exterminated. It is actually rumoured locally that some parents routinely walk their dogs to both these schools alongside their own and other children, and worse still allow these dangerous 'loaded gun' pets to share their family homes! Goodness, this story is certainly bringing the muppets out to play![/p][/quote]I wouldnt have kids today,Te spoit litte brats, Dogs are a girls/mans best friend. LOYAL .LOVING. protect you,and your home 24/7.[/p][/quote]Spoiled brats..... What a sad individual you are. I suppose you won't be drawing a pension in the future then? Or visiting and using the NHS all of which will need the continued funding of our children. A totally selfish dog owning/cat owning comment. Grow up for goodness sake. The child is 2 years old. What a ignorant twerp you really are. Southbourne Mike
  • Score: 0

9:55am Fri 21 Feb 14

Sir Beachy Head says...

I long for the day when I can shop in a supermarket that allows dogs in but insists that kids must be chained to the railings outside and are not allowed in.

I find dogs far more civilised, clean, quiet and peaceful than 99% of kids.

Come on Asda, how about it ?
I long for the day when I can shop in a supermarket that allows dogs in but insists that kids must be chained to the railings outside and are not allowed in. I find dogs far more civilised, clean, quiet and peaceful than 99% of kids. Come on Asda, how about it ? Sir Beachy Head
  • Score: 8

1:36pm Fri 21 Feb 14

Dorset Logic says...

Keep away from mums with kids, keep your life simple, hassle free and pleasant.
Keep away from mums with kids, keep your life simple, hassle free and pleasant. Dorset Logic
  • Score: 4

7:22pm Fri 21 Feb 14

RM says...

I hope the little girl recovers OK & some sensible adult tells her not to approach strange dogs without asking their owner first. Maybe Jeremy Kyle needs to announce it on his programmme..... At least that way it would get a lot of coverage.
I hope the little girl recovers OK & some sensible adult tells her not to approach strange dogs without asking their owner first. Maybe Jeremy Kyle needs to announce it on his programmme..... At least that way it would get a lot of coverage. RM
  • Score: 0

5:49pm Sun 23 Feb 14

cromwell9 says...

Southbourne Mike wrote:
cromwell9 wrote:
muscliffman wrote:
mgibbs wrote:
Taking a dog out in public is like taking a loaded gun out and should not be left unattended. What everybody misses here that Rowlands is a stones throw away from from not only the Epiphany School, but a short distance from Muscliffe school and opposite James Fisher medical center. Which is a high traffic area for children and toddlers. This dog need to be identified and precautions taken before another child gets hurt or worse. Epiphany school have a no dogs on school property and encourage people not to tir up and leave dogs unattended around school during pick up/ drop off times.
Is this for real?

So perhaps as a sensible precaution that will doubtless appeal to this ridiculous type of mind set, it would be best to close the Surgery and both these Muscliff schools (although one is nearly a MILE away from this alleged incident) until it can be confirmed that every single pet dog in and around the area has been exterminated. It is actually rumoured locally that some parents routinely walk their dogs to both these schools alongside their own and other children, and worse still allow these dangerous 'loaded gun' pets to share their family homes!

Goodness, this story is certainly bringing the muppets out to play!
I wouldnt have kids today,Te spoit litte brats,
Dogs are a girls/mans best friend.
LOYAL .LOVING. protect you,and your home 24/7.
Spoiled brats..... What a sad individual you are. I suppose you won't be drawing a pension in the future then? Or visiting and using the NHS all of which will need the continued funding of our children. A totally selfish dog owning/cat owning comment. Grow up for goodness sake. The child is 2 years old. What a ignorant twerp you really are.
You should know.
[quote][p][bold]Southbourne Mike[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cromwell9[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]muscliffman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mgibbs[/bold] wrote: Taking a dog out in public is like taking a loaded gun out and should not be left unattended. What everybody misses here that Rowlands is a stones throw away from from not only the Epiphany School, but a short distance from Muscliffe school and opposite James Fisher medical center. Which is a high traffic area for children and toddlers. This dog need to be identified and precautions taken before another child gets hurt or worse. Epiphany school have a no dogs on school property and encourage people not to tir up and leave dogs unattended around school during pick up/ drop off times.[/p][/quote]Is this for real? So perhaps as a sensible precaution that will doubtless appeal to this ridiculous type of mind set, it would be best to close the Surgery and both these Muscliff schools (although one is nearly a MILE away from this alleged incident) until it can be confirmed that every single pet dog in and around the area has been exterminated. It is actually rumoured locally that some parents routinely walk their dogs to both these schools alongside their own and other children, and worse still allow these dangerous 'loaded gun' pets to share their family homes! Goodness, this story is certainly bringing the muppets out to play![/p][/quote]I wouldnt have kids today,Te spoit litte brats, Dogs are a girls/mans best friend. LOYAL .LOVING. protect you,and your home 24/7.[/p][/quote]Spoiled brats..... What a sad individual you are. I suppose you won't be drawing a pension in the future then? Or visiting and using the NHS all of which will need the continued funding of our children. A totally selfish dog owning/cat owning comment. Grow up for goodness sake. The child is 2 years old. What a ignorant twerp you really are.[/p][/quote]You should know. cromwell9
  • Score: -1

5:51pm Sun 23 Feb 14

cromwell9 says...

Southbourne Mike wrote:
cromwell9 wrote:
muscliffman wrote:
mgibbs wrote:
Taking a dog out in public is like taking a loaded gun out and should not be left unattended. What everybody misses here that Rowlands is a stones throw away from from not only the Epiphany School, but a short distance from Muscliffe school and opposite James Fisher medical center. Which is a high traffic area for children and toddlers. This dog need to be identified and precautions taken before another child gets hurt or worse. Epiphany school have a no dogs on school property and encourage people not to tir up and leave dogs unattended around school during pick up/ drop off times.
Is this for real?

So perhaps as a sensible precaution that will doubtless appeal to this ridiculous type of mind set, it would be best to close the Surgery and both these Muscliff schools (although one is nearly a MILE away from this alleged incident) until it can be confirmed that every single pet dog in and around the area has been exterminated. It is actually rumoured locally that some parents routinely walk their dogs to both these schools alongside their own and other children, and worse still allow these dangerous 'loaded gun' pets to share their family homes!

Goodness, this story is certainly bringing the muppets out to play!
I wouldnt have kids today,Te spoit litte brats,
Dogs are a girls/mans best friend.
LOYAL .LOVING. protect you,and your home 24/7.
Spoiled brats..... What a sad individual you are. I suppose you won't be drawing a pension in the future then? Or visiting and using the NHS all of which will need the continued funding of our children. A totally selfish dog owning/cat owning comment. Grow up for goodness sake. The child is 2 years old. What a ignorant twerp you really are.
You should Know
[quote][p][bold]Southbourne Mike[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cromwell9[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]muscliffman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mgibbs[/bold] wrote: Taking a dog out in public is like taking a loaded gun out and should not be left unattended. What everybody misses here that Rowlands is a stones throw away from from not only the Epiphany School, but a short distance from Muscliffe school and opposite James Fisher medical center. Which is a high traffic area for children and toddlers. This dog need to be identified and precautions taken before another child gets hurt or worse. Epiphany school have a no dogs on school property and encourage people not to tir up and leave dogs unattended around school during pick up/ drop off times.[/p][/quote]Is this for real? So perhaps as a sensible precaution that will doubtless appeal to this ridiculous type of mind set, it would be best to close the Surgery and both these Muscliff schools (although one is nearly a MILE away from this alleged incident) until it can be confirmed that every single pet dog in and around the area has been exterminated. It is actually rumoured locally that some parents routinely walk their dogs to both these schools alongside their own and other children, and worse still allow these dangerous 'loaded gun' pets to share their family homes! Goodness, this story is certainly bringing the muppets out to play![/p][/quote]I wouldnt have kids today,Te spoit litte brats, Dogs are a girls/mans best friend. LOYAL .LOVING. protect you,and your home 24/7.[/p][/quote]Spoiled brats..... What a sad individual you are. I suppose you won't be drawing a pension in the future then? Or visiting and using the NHS all of which will need the continued funding of our children. A totally selfish dog owning/cat owning comment. Grow up for goodness sake. The child is 2 years old. What a ignorant twerp you really are.[/p][/quote]You should Know cromwell9
  • Score: -1

5:53pm Sun 23 Feb 14

cromwell9 says...

Southbourne Mike wrote:
cromwell9 wrote:
muscliffman wrote:
mgibbs wrote:
Taking a dog out in public is like taking a loaded gun out and should not be left unattended. What everybody misses here that Rowlands is a stones throw away from from not only the Epiphany School, but a short distance from Muscliffe school and opposite James Fisher medical center. Which is a high traffic area for children and toddlers. This dog need to be identified and precautions taken before another child gets hurt or worse. Epiphany school have a no dogs on school property and encourage people not to tir up and leave dogs unattended around school during pick up/ drop off times.
Is this for real?

So perhaps as a sensible precaution that will doubtless appeal to this ridiculous type of mind set, it would be best to close the Surgery and both these Muscliff schools (although one is nearly a MILE away from this alleged incident) until it can be confirmed that every single pet dog in and around the area has been exterminated. It is actually rumoured locally that some parents routinely walk their dogs to both these schools alongside their own and other children, and worse still allow these dangerous 'loaded gun' pets to share their family homes!

Goodness, this story is certainly bringing the muppets out to play!
I wouldnt have kids today,Te spoit litte brats,
Dogs are a girls/mans best friend.
LOYAL .LOVING. protect you,and your home 24/7.
Spoiled brats..... What a sad individual you are. I suppose you won't be drawing a pension in the future then? Or visiting and using the NHS all of which will need the continued funding of our children. A totally selfish dog owning/cat owning comment. Grow up for goodness sake. The child is 2 years old. What a ignorant twerp you really are.
You should Know
[quote][p][bold]Southbourne Mike[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cromwell9[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]muscliffman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mgibbs[/bold] wrote: Taking a dog out in public is like taking a loaded gun out and should not be left unattended. What everybody misses here that Rowlands is a stones throw away from from not only the Epiphany School, but a short distance from Muscliffe school and opposite James Fisher medical center. Which is a high traffic area for children and toddlers. This dog need to be identified and precautions taken before another child gets hurt or worse. Epiphany school have a no dogs on school property and encourage people not to tir up and leave dogs unattended around school during pick up/ drop off times.[/p][/quote]Is this for real? So perhaps as a sensible precaution that will doubtless appeal to this ridiculous type of mind set, it would be best to close the Surgery and both these Muscliff schools (although one is nearly a MILE away from this alleged incident) until it can be confirmed that every single pet dog in and around the area has been exterminated. It is actually rumoured locally that some parents routinely walk their dogs to both these schools alongside their own and other children, and worse still allow these dangerous 'loaded gun' pets to share their family homes! Goodness, this story is certainly bringing the muppets out to play![/p][/quote]I wouldnt have kids today,Te spoit litte brats, Dogs are a girls/mans best friend. LOYAL .LOVING. protect you,and your home 24/7.[/p][/quote]Spoiled brats..... What a sad individual you are. I suppose you won't be drawing a pension in the future then? Or visiting and using the NHS all of which will need the continued funding of our children. A totally selfish dog owning/cat owning comment. Grow up for goodness sake. The child is 2 years old. What a ignorant twerp you really are.[/p][/quote]You should Know cromwell9
  • Score: -1

5:55pm Sun 23 Feb 14

cromwell9 says...

stevobath wrote:
ranger_bob wrote:
stevobath wrote:
ranger_bob wrote:
Apart from various types of working/assistance dogs there really is no need to have all of these dogs on our streets these days. Not only do they/their owners lear their poop all over the place but attacks on people are becoming more and more common place these days, especially with the trend of keeping "status" dogs.

The answer is easy, just get rid. One purge, you clean up the streets, you stop the dog attacks and believe it or not you also drastically reduce CO2 emmissions.

For those who want company. get a budgie, at least they'll talk back to you if your lucky!
CO2 Emissions?

You're a bit ????

Personally I never leave my dog tied up alone outside shops. That way it avoids any incidents, such as this.

I wouldn't go up to a dog, tied up outside a shop unless I knew the dog.

Dogs will act different when on a lead & especially so when tied up & left alone.
Surely a toddler should be within easy reach, especially on a pavement? What if the kid had strayed into the Rd & gotten run over? Ban all cars? Take the Mum to court for neglect?
Sometimes things like this happen. Before the 'Digital Age' I doubt this would've been given more than a sentence in the ECHO.

Hopefully the child will recover?
There are a few neurotic people commenting...CO2 emissions? Weird. Obviously must have read a Daily Mail article on how 'Bull Terriers, are responsible for climate change & the collapse of the World Wide Capitalist System'? Probably at fault for the floods too?
I presume you've spent time at the Hotel in Haven Rd?
Here you go, try doing a little bit of research before you jump to a conclusion:-

http://www.telegraph


.co.uk/earth/environ


ment/climatechange/6


416683/Pet-dogs-as-b


ad-for-planet-as-dri


ving-4x4s-book-claim


s.html
The same could be said for humans in general.

If more people were vegetarians, less cows,sheep etc would be bred, thus freeing up pasture for growing crops. Where do you stop?
Wipe out wild animals?

Personally I think overall a dog is far less harmful than a 4x4. Also dogs don't spew out cancer causing chemicals & have other proven health benefits for owners IE you can't take your Range Rover for 5 mile walks!

Also I wasn't far off. Daily Mail/Telegraph typical Right Wing rubbish.
I would like to put some humans down ,and keep the dogs.
[quote][p][bold]stevobath[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ranger_bob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]stevobath[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ranger_bob[/bold] wrote: Apart from various types of working/assistance dogs there really is no need to have all of these dogs on our streets these days. Not only do they/their owners lear their poop all over the place but attacks on people are becoming more and more common place these days, especially with the trend of keeping "status" dogs. The answer is easy, just get rid. One purge, you clean up the streets, you stop the dog attacks and believe it or not you also drastically reduce CO2 emmissions. For those who want company. get a budgie, at least they'll talk back to you if your lucky![/p][/quote]CO2 Emissions? You're a bit ???? Personally I never leave my dog tied up alone outside shops. That way it avoids any incidents, such as this. I wouldn't go up to a dog, tied up outside a shop unless I knew the dog. Dogs will act different when on a lead & especially so when tied up & left alone. Surely a toddler should be within easy reach, especially on a pavement? What if the kid had strayed into the Rd & gotten run over? Ban all cars? Take the Mum to court for neglect? Sometimes things like this happen. Before the 'Digital Age' I doubt this would've been given more than a sentence in the ECHO. Hopefully the child will recover? There are a few neurotic people commenting...CO2 emissions? Weird. Obviously must have read a Daily Mail article on how 'Bull Terriers, are responsible for climate change & the collapse of the World Wide Capitalist System'? Probably at fault for the floods too? I presume you've spent time at the Hotel in Haven Rd?[/p][/quote]Here you go, try doing a little bit of research before you jump to a conclusion:- http://www.telegraph .co.uk/earth/environ ment/climatechange/6 416683/Pet-dogs-as-b ad-for-planet-as-dri ving-4x4s-book-claim s.html[/p][/quote]The same could be said for humans in general. If more people were vegetarians, less cows,sheep etc would be bred, thus freeing up pasture for growing crops. Where do you stop? Wipe out wild animals? Personally I think overall a dog is far less harmful than a 4x4. Also dogs don't spew out cancer causing chemicals & have other proven health benefits for owners IE you can't take your Range Rover for 5 mile walks! Also I wasn't far off. Daily Mail/Telegraph typical Right Wing rubbish.[/p][/quote]I would like to put some humans down ,and keep the dogs. cromwell9
  • Score: 0

5:57pm Sun 23 Feb 14

cromwell9 says...

Southbourne Mike wrote:
cromwell9 wrote:
muscliffman wrote:
mgibbs wrote:
Taking a dog out in public is like taking a loaded gun out and should not be left unattended. What everybody misses here that Rowlands is a stones throw away from from not only the Epiphany School, but a short distance from Muscliffe school and opposite James Fisher medical center. Which is a high traffic area for children and toddlers. This dog need to be identified and precautions taken before another child gets hurt or worse. Epiphany school have a no dogs on school property and encourage people not to tir up and leave dogs unattended around school during pick up/ drop off times.
Is this for real?

So perhaps as a sensible precaution that will doubtless appeal to this ridiculous type of mind set, it would be best to close the Surgery and both these Muscliff schools (although one is nearly a MILE away from this alleged incident) until it can be confirmed that every single pet dog in and around the area has been exterminated. It is actually rumoured locally that some parents routinely walk their dogs to both these schools alongside their own and other children, and worse still allow these dangerous 'loaded gun' pets to share their family homes!

Goodness, this story is certainly bringing the muppets out to play!
I wouldnt have kids today,Te spoit litte brats,
Dogs are a girls/mans best friend.
LOYAL .LOVING. protect you,and your home 24/7.
Spoiled brats..... What a sad individual you are. I suppose you won't be drawing a pension in the future then? Or visiting and using the NHS all of which will need the continued funding of our children. A totally selfish dog owning/cat owning comment. Grow up for goodness sake. The child is 2 years old. What a ignorant twerp you really are.
you should know.
[quote][p][bold]Southbourne Mike[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cromwell9[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]muscliffman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mgibbs[/bold] wrote: Taking a dog out in public is like taking a loaded gun out and should not be left unattended. What everybody misses here that Rowlands is a stones throw away from from not only the Epiphany School, but a short distance from Muscliffe school and opposite James Fisher medical center. Which is a high traffic area for children and toddlers. This dog need to be identified and precautions taken before another child gets hurt or worse. Epiphany school have a no dogs on school property and encourage people not to tir up and leave dogs unattended around school during pick up/ drop off times.[/p][/quote]Is this for real? So perhaps as a sensible precaution that will doubtless appeal to this ridiculous type of mind set, it would be best to close the Surgery and both these Muscliff schools (although one is nearly a MILE away from this alleged incident) until it can be confirmed that every single pet dog in and around the area has been exterminated. It is actually rumoured locally that some parents routinely walk their dogs to both these schools alongside their own and other children, and worse still allow these dangerous 'loaded gun' pets to share their family homes! Goodness, this story is certainly bringing the muppets out to play![/p][/quote]I wouldnt have kids today,Te spoit litte brats, Dogs are a girls/mans best friend. LOYAL .LOVING. protect you,and your home 24/7.[/p][/quote]Spoiled brats..... What a sad individual you are. I suppose you won't be drawing a pension in the future then? Or visiting and using the NHS all of which will need the continued funding of our children. A totally selfish dog owning/cat owning comment. Grow up for goodness sake. The child is 2 years old. What a ignorant twerp you really are.[/p][/quote]you should know. cromwell9
  • Score: -2

5:58pm Sun 23 Feb 14

cromwell9 says...

new2it wrote:
ranger_bob wrote:
Apart from various types of working/assistance dogs there really is no need to have all of these dogs on our streets these days. Not only do they/their owners lear their poop all over the place but attacks on people are becoming more and more common place these days, especially with the trend of keeping "status" dogs.

The answer is easy, just get rid. One purge, you clean up the streets, you stop the dog attacks and believe it or not you also drastically reduce CO2 emmissions.

For those who want company. get a budgie, at least they'll talk back to you if your lucky!
What a sweeping statement. Not all dog owners leave the poop around, I would hate to think I ever left any of my dogs pooh. As for saying there should be only working/assistance dogs, totally disagree. What about people who live alone, and enjoy the company of their dogs, plus the bonus of meeting and chatting to people when taking them for a walk? I certainly would not want to have a budgie, I don't agree with caged birds.
Idiot
[quote][p][bold]new2it[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ranger_bob[/bold] wrote: Apart from various types of working/assistance dogs there really is no need to have all of these dogs on our streets these days. Not only do they/their owners lear their poop all over the place but attacks on people are becoming more and more common place these days, especially with the trend of keeping "status" dogs. The answer is easy, just get rid. One purge, you clean up the streets, you stop the dog attacks and believe it or not you also drastically reduce CO2 emmissions. For those who want company. get a budgie, at least they'll talk back to you if your lucky![/p][/quote]What a sweeping statement. Not all dog owners leave the poop around, I would hate to think I ever left any of my dogs pooh. As for saying there should be only working/assistance dogs, totally disagree. What about people who live alone, and enjoy the company of their dogs, plus the bonus of meeting and chatting to people when taking them for a walk? I certainly would not want to have a budgie, I don't agree with caged birds.[/p][/quote]Idiot cromwell9
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6:03pm Sun 23 Feb 14

cromwell9 says...

ranger_bob wrote:
cromwell9 wrote:
ranger_bob wrote:
Apart from various types of working/assistance dogs there really is no need to have all of these dogs on our streets these days. Not only do they/their owners lear their poop all over the place but attacks on people are becoming more and more common place these days, especially with the trend of keeping "status" dogs.

The answer is easy, just get rid. One purge, you clean up the streets, you stop the dog attacks and believe it or not you also drastically reduce CO2 emmissions.

For those who want company. get a budgie, at least they'll talk back to you if your lucky!
You are obviously not a dog lover.But let me tell you .
Dogs were on this planet millions of years before humans arrived,and have every right to be here .
They are agreat asset to humans,and will lay down their lives to protect us .
You horrible little man.
And another bite. Go back to your colouring in, but don't eat the crayons!
Some people just cant hack the truth.
[quote][p][bold]ranger_bob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cromwell9[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ranger_bob[/bold] wrote: Apart from various types of working/assistance dogs there really is no need to have all of these dogs on our streets these days. Not only do they/their owners lear their poop all over the place but attacks on people are becoming more and more common place these days, especially with the trend of keeping "status" dogs. The answer is easy, just get rid. One purge, you clean up the streets, you stop the dog attacks and believe it or not you also drastically reduce CO2 emmissions. For those who want company. get a budgie, at least they'll talk back to you if your lucky![/p][/quote]You are obviously not a dog lover.But let me tell you . Dogs were on this planet millions of years before humans arrived,and have every right to be here . They are agreat asset to humans,and will lay down their lives to protect us . You horrible little man.[/p][/quote]And another bite. Go back to your colouring in, but don't eat the crayons![/p][/quote]Some people just cant hack the truth. cromwell9
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8:24am Tue 25 Feb 14

mrsshep says...

I think the moral of the story is,
* muzzle your dogs if you have any doubt,
* kids don't approach dogs if they are tied up and you don't know them,
* adults make sure you watch your kids when around dogs
Before anyone says it, i have 2 dogs, both are good as gold one is a labrador the other a collie, i trust them, but i would never leave them alone with kids and i certainly never tie them up in public
I think the moral of the story is, * muzzle your dogs if you have any doubt, * kids don't approach dogs if they are tied up and you don't know them, * adults make sure you watch your kids when around dogs Before anyone says it, i have 2 dogs, both are good as gold one is a labrador the other a collie, i trust them, but i would never leave them alone with kids and i certainly never tie them up in public mrsshep
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