Tributes paid to father-of-two who died after choking on a sausage in the street

Tributes paid to father-of-two who died after choking on a sausage in the street

TRAGIC: David Atkins with his sister Catherine

TRAGIC: David's parents Phil and Mavis

First published in News by

THE family of a man who died after choking on a sausage in the street have paid tribute to his memory.

David Atkins, 46, an IT entrepreneur and Army reservist, collapsed outside Sainsbury’s supermarket in Poole town centre while eating his lunch on New Year’s Eve 2013.

When paramedics examined him he was found to have a large piece of sausage meat blocking his airway.

The father-of-two suffered severe brain damage and cardiac arrest as a result, and six days later his family were at his side in Poole Hospital when his life support machine was switched off.

“We were already at the hospital when he was brought in,” said his dad, Phil Atkins.

“My wife Mavis had just had an operation, so when the doctor called and asked us to come to the hospital we only had to go downstairs to A&E, and there he was on life support.

“It was a shock to say the least, coming on top of everything else.

“Everyone said how bizarre it was, even our GP who had only heard of one case in his career.

“But then David wouldn’t do anything ordinary or boring.

“They said even if he survived he wouldn’t have any worthwhile life left, so they switched him off.”

Mr Atkins had just entered remission after treatment for soft cell sarcoma, a rare form of cancer. He lived with his parents in Hamilton Road, Corfe Mullen, as well as in his mobile home at Rockley Park, Hamworthy.

Born in Maidstone, he grew up in High Wycombe where he attended the Royal Grammar School, before studying at Bristol University.

After university and a brief spell working in the Cayman Islands, he set up one of the first video conferencing firms – Videoweb – with a group of friends.

He was an enthusiastic British Army reservist, posted at the Royal Marine base in Poole, and also a member of the Maritime Volunteer Service.

He was married to Helen for 18 years, and the pair had two children, Joanne, 19, and Lauren, 14, but they divorced two years ago and he left the family home in Newbury for Poole.

Mrs Atkins said: “He was a much-loved son and a much-loved brother to his sister Catherine, who flew over from America to be with him in hospital.

“He loved to be active and made many friends through the reservists and down in Rockley Park.”

She praised the help and support the family had received from hospital staff.

“I am amazed at the support we have had from friends and even people we don’t know that well.

“It does restore your faith in human nature,” she added.

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7:10am Wed 19 Feb 14

Understated says...

cant help but feel that they wanted to add humour to this tragic incident. something people might see and laugh at and make petty jokes with.

what he choked on is not needed in the headline, you dont put it up when other people have died out of complication.
cant help but feel that they wanted to add humour to this tragic incident. something people might see and laugh at and make petty jokes with. what he choked on is not needed in the headline, you dont put it up when other people have died out of complication. Understated
  • Score: 172

8:08am Wed 19 Feb 14

rudolph_hucker says...

Understated wrote:
cant help but feel that they wanted to add humour to this tragic incident. something people might see and laugh at and make petty jokes with. what he choked on is not needed in the headline, you dont put it up when other people have died out of complication.
Yes they do:
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[quote][p][bold]Understated[/bold] wrote: cant help but feel that they wanted to add humour to this tragic incident. something people might see and laugh at and make petty jokes with. what he choked on is not needed in the headline, you dont put it up when other people have died out of complication.[/p][/quote]Yes they do: http://www.bournemou thecho.co.uk/archive /2012/08/20/9882690. Diner_choked_to_deat h_on_steak_in_Weymou th_hotel/ http://www.bournemou thecho.co.uk/archive /2002/10/09/5384924. Boy_aged_11_choked_t o_death_on_toy_dart/ rudolph_hucker
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9:27am Wed 19 Feb 14

BournemouthMum says...

Almost all choking incidences involve meat. As a (healthy) vegetarian who hasn't touched a morsel of meat for over 12 years I have to wonder whether humans have evolved away from eating meat - maybe we're not meant to eat it anymore since it causes so many health problems - i.e. cancer and heart disease etc? Terrible tragedy.
Almost all choking incidences involve meat. As a (healthy) vegetarian who hasn't touched a morsel of meat for over 12 years I have to wonder whether humans have evolved away from eating meat - maybe we're not meant to eat it anymore since it causes so many health problems - i.e. cancer and heart disease etc? Terrible tragedy. BournemouthMum
  • Score: 53

9:34am Wed 19 Feb 14

Squars says...

BournemouthMum wrote:
Almost all choking incidences involve meat. As a (healthy) vegetarian who hasn't touched a morsel of meat for over 12 years I have to wonder whether humans have evolved away from eating meat - maybe we're not meant to eat it anymore since it causes so many health problems - i.e. cancer and heart disease etc? Terrible tragedy.
What utter rubbish.Can you quote any studies-real, proper science to back up this nonsense?
[quote][p][bold]BournemouthMum[/bold] wrote: Almost all choking incidences involve meat. As a (healthy) vegetarian who hasn't touched a morsel of meat for over 12 years I have to wonder whether humans have evolved away from eating meat - maybe we're not meant to eat it anymore since it causes so many health problems - i.e. cancer and heart disease etc? Terrible tragedy.[/p][/quote]What utter rubbish.Can you quote any studies-real, proper science to back up this nonsense? Squars
  • Score: 49

9:44am Wed 19 Feb 14

jpm2067 says...

Understated wrote:
cant help but feel that they wanted to add humour to this tragic incident. something people might see and laugh at and make petty jokes with.

what he choked on is not needed in the headline, you dont put it up when other people have died out of complication.
I totally agree. It was the first question I asked out loud when I saw it. I cannot understand why a publication like the Echo need to splash that kind of headline all over the front page. It's very very poor and really insensitive IMO.
[quote][p][bold]Understated[/bold] wrote: cant help but feel that they wanted to add humour to this tragic incident. something people might see and laugh at and make petty jokes with. what he choked on is not needed in the headline, you dont put it up when other people have died out of complication.[/p][/quote]I totally agree. It was the first question I asked out loud when I saw it. I cannot understand why a publication like the Echo need to splash that kind of headline all over the front page. It's very very poor and really insensitive IMO. jpm2067
  • Score: 41

10:14am Wed 19 Feb 14

Bournehammer68 says...

Very sad what a cr4p start to the year for friends and family.
Very sad what a cr4p start to the year for friends and family. Bournehammer68
  • Score: -46

10:42am Wed 19 Feb 14

BournemouthMum says...

Squars wrote:
BournemouthMum wrote:
Almost all choking incidences involve meat. As a (healthy) vegetarian who hasn't touched a morsel of meat for over 12 years I have to wonder whether humans have evolved away from eating meat - maybe we're not meant to eat it anymore since it causes so many health problems - i.e. cancer and heart disease etc? Terrible tragedy.
What utter rubbish.Can you quote any studies-real, proper science to back up this nonsense?
http://dodd.ohio.gov
/healthandsafety/Doc
uments/41-06-07.pdf There's one study. Don't have time to research further but I do recall reading a few reports of choking involving sausages. Of course other foods can be involved but meat accounts for a large percentage.

Oh and I am NOT against meat eating by the way (I cook meat for my son) and respect people's decision to eat meat. My comment was just an observation and based on my own theory.
[quote][p][bold]Squars[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BournemouthMum[/bold] wrote: Almost all choking incidences involve meat. As a (healthy) vegetarian who hasn't touched a morsel of meat for over 12 years I have to wonder whether humans have evolved away from eating meat - maybe we're not meant to eat it anymore since it causes so many health problems - i.e. cancer and heart disease etc? Terrible tragedy.[/p][/quote]What utter rubbish.Can you quote any studies-real, proper science to back up this nonsense?[/p][/quote]http://dodd.ohio.gov /healthandsafety/Doc uments/41-06-07.pdf There's one study. Don't have time to research further but I do recall reading a few reports of choking involving sausages. Of course other foods can be involved but meat accounts for a large percentage. Oh and I am NOT against meat eating by the way (I cook meat for my son) and respect people's decision to eat meat. My comment was just an observation and based on my own theory. BournemouthMum
  • Score: 5

11:30am Wed 19 Feb 14

Mindvor says...

BournemouthMum wrote:
Squars wrote:
BournemouthMum wrote:
Almost all choking incidences involve meat. As a (healthy) vegetarian who hasn't touched a morsel of meat for over 12 years I have to wonder whether humans have evolved away from eating meat - maybe we're not meant to eat it anymore since it causes so many health problems - i.e. cancer and heart disease etc? Terrible tragedy.
What utter rubbish.Can you quote any studies-real, proper science to back up this nonsense?
http://dodd.ohio.gov

/healthandsafety/Doc

uments/41-06-07.pdf There's one study. Don't have time to research further but I do recall reading a few reports of choking involving sausages. Of course other foods can be involved but meat accounts for a large percentage.

Oh and I am NOT against meat eating by the way (I cook meat for my son) and respect people's decision to eat meat. My comment was just an observation and based on my own theory.
Excellent report :) From this we can surmise that you are just as likely to choke when eating pasta, vegetables or fruit (33%) as you are meat (35%) and that the primary cause of choking is eating to fast.
Maybe the reason we hear more about choking incidents involving "meat" is that more people eat meat than are vegetarian (or vege's eat slower)?
Horribly tragic when anyone is taken ahead of their time, sorry for the families loss.
[quote][p][bold]BournemouthMum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Squars[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BournemouthMum[/bold] wrote: Almost all choking incidences involve meat. As a (healthy) vegetarian who hasn't touched a morsel of meat for over 12 years I have to wonder whether humans have evolved away from eating meat - maybe we're not meant to eat it anymore since it causes so many health problems - i.e. cancer and heart disease etc? Terrible tragedy.[/p][/quote]What utter rubbish.Can you quote any studies-real, proper science to back up this nonsense?[/p][/quote]http://dodd.ohio.gov /healthandsafety/Doc uments/41-06-07.pdf There's one study. Don't have time to research further but I do recall reading a few reports of choking involving sausages. Of course other foods can be involved but meat accounts for a large percentage. Oh and I am NOT against meat eating by the way (I cook meat for my son) and respect people's decision to eat meat. My comment was just an observation and based on my own theory.[/p][/quote]Excellent report :) From this we can surmise that you are just as likely to choke when eating pasta, vegetables or fruit (33%) as you are meat (35%) and that the primary cause of choking is eating to fast. Maybe the reason we hear more about choking incidents involving "meat" is that more people eat meat than are vegetarian (or vege's eat slower)? Horribly tragic when anyone is taken ahead of their time, sorry for the families loss. Mindvor
  • Score: 26

11:32am Wed 19 Feb 14

BmthNewshound says...

Understated wrote:
cant help but feel that they wanted to add humour to this tragic incident. something people might see and laugh at and make petty jokes with.

what he choked on is not needed in the headline, you dont put it up when other people have died out of complication.
Can't help but agree with Understated. A headline in very poor taste which shows a complete lack of respect for Mr Atkins & consideration for his family.
.
[quote][p][bold]Understated[/bold] wrote: cant help but feel that they wanted to add humour to this tragic incident. something people might see and laugh at and make petty jokes with. what he choked on is not needed in the headline, you dont put it up when other people have died out of complication.[/p][/quote]Can't help but agree with Understated. A headline in very poor taste which shows a complete lack of respect for Mr Atkins & consideration for his family. . BmthNewshound
  • Score: 23

11:47am Wed 19 Feb 14

BournemouthMum says...

Mindvor wrote:
BournemouthMum wrote:
Squars wrote:
BournemouthMum wrote:
Almost all choking incidences involve meat. As a (healthy) vegetarian who hasn't touched a morsel of meat for over 12 years I have to wonder whether humans have evolved away from eating meat - maybe we're not meant to eat it anymore since it causes so many health problems - i.e. cancer and heart disease etc? Terrible tragedy.
What utter rubbish.Can you quote any studies-real, proper science to back up this nonsense?
http://dodd.ohio.gov


/healthandsafety/Doc


uments/41-06-07.pdf There's one study. Don't have time to research further but I do recall reading a few reports of choking involving sausages. Of course other foods can be involved but meat accounts for a large percentage.

Oh and I am NOT against meat eating by the way (I cook meat for my son) and respect people's decision to eat meat. My comment was just an observation and based on my own theory.
Excellent report :) From this we can surmise that you are just as likely to choke when eating pasta, vegetables or fruit (33%) as you are meat (35%) and that the primary cause of choking is eating to fast.
Maybe the reason we hear more about choking incidents involving "meat" is that more people eat meat than are vegetarian (or vege's eat slower)?
Horribly tragic when anyone is taken ahead of their time, sorry for the families loss.
Could be. Or it could be that our teeth aren't as sharp as they once were and aren't as capable of chewing meat properly - hence my evolution theory. As I've said, just my observation and opinion which of course I am entitled to. Whatever the reason it was a terrible tragedy and I too am sorry for this man's poor family.
[quote][p][bold]Mindvor[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BournemouthMum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Squars[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BournemouthMum[/bold] wrote: Almost all choking incidences involve meat. As a (healthy) vegetarian who hasn't touched a morsel of meat for over 12 years I have to wonder whether humans have evolved away from eating meat - maybe we're not meant to eat it anymore since it causes so many health problems - i.e. cancer and heart disease etc? Terrible tragedy.[/p][/quote]What utter rubbish.Can you quote any studies-real, proper science to back up this nonsense?[/p][/quote]http://dodd.ohio.gov /healthandsafety/Doc uments/41-06-07.pdf There's one study. Don't have time to research further but I do recall reading a few reports of choking involving sausages. Of course other foods can be involved but meat accounts for a large percentage. Oh and I am NOT against meat eating by the way (I cook meat for my son) and respect people's decision to eat meat. My comment was just an observation and based on my own theory.[/p][/quote]Excellent report :) From this we can surmise that you are just as likely to choke when eating pasta, vegetables or fruit (33%) as you are meat (35%) and that the primary cause of choking is eating to fast. Maybe the reason we hear more about choking incidents involving "meat" is that more people eat meat than are vegetarian (or vege's eat slower)? Horribly tragic when anyone is taken ahead of their time, sorry for the families loss.[/p][/quote]Could be. Or it could be that our teeth aren't as sharp as they once were and aren't as capable of chewing meat properly - hence my evolution theory. As I've said, just my observation and opinion which of course I am entitled to. Whatever the reason it was a terrible tragedy and I too am sorry for this man's poor family. BournemouthMum
  • Score: -5

12:05pm Wed 19 Feb 14

Mindvor says...

Quite agree, I wasn't disparaging your opinion (I have my own)...just the report :)
Quite agree, I wasn't disparaging your opinion (I have my own)...just the report :) Mindvor
  • Score: 7

12:28pm Wed 19 Feb 14

whataboutthat says...

BournemouthMum wrote:
Almost all choking incidences involve meat. As a (healthy) vegetarian who hasn't touched a morsel of meat for over 12 years I have to wonder whether humans have evolved away from eating meat - maybe we're not meant to eat it anymore since it causes so many health problems - i.e. cancer and heart disease etc? Terrible tragedy.
I love your self righteousness B Mum. What kind of evolutionary theories do you like to invent when you have a few moments away from chomping seeds?
[quote][p][bold]BournemouthMum[/bold] wrote: Almost all choking incidences involve meat. As a (healthy) vegetarian who hasn't touched a morsel of meat for over 12 years I have to wonder whether humans have evolved away from eating meat - maybe we're not meant to eat it anymore since it causes so many health problems - i.e. cancer and heart disease etc? Terrible tragedy.[/p][/quote]I love your self righteousness B Mum. What kind of evolutionary theories do you like to invent when you have a few moments away from chomping seeds? whataboutthat
  • Score: 13

12:39pm Wed 19 Feb 14

Cosmic Crusader says...

A tragic incident which illustrates the dangers of the modern trend of eating "on the go".
A tragic incident which illustrates the dangers of the modern trend of eating "on the go". Cosmic Crusader
  • Score: 5

12:56pm Wed 19 Feb 14

JamesBond0070 says...

Squars says:- What utter rubbish. Can you quote any studies- real, proper science to back up this nonsense?
I certainly can, Squars just has to look into his computer under the word "Vegetarian", to find out that the eating of meat and dairy products contributes to a often much shorter less healthy life. Our digestive systems dating from when we evolved centuries ago are suited for the consumption of plant foods, not meat. We have a very long digestive tract needed to process plant foods, not a short system like the carnivorous animals. I have many books in my home library on the best eating practices for long survival, and they all recomend a vegetarian diet. I was fortunately enough years ago to have married into a family that knew of the primative eating habits of certain of the South American Indians and how at the age of one hundred years many of them can still run marathon distances, all on a very simple vegetarian diet. I also know of many other cultures around the world that have very long life spans due to the same eating habits. I can recommend Dr. Joel Fuhrman's book "Eat To Live" and the English author, Peter Cox with his book "Why You Don't Need Meat" as a start to trying to extend your life for another ten, twenty or even thirty years as against the norm presently experienced by most people.
Squars says:- What utter rubbish. Can you quote any studies- real, proper science to back up this nonsense? I certainly can, Squars just has to look into his computer under the word "Vegetarian", to find out that the eating of meat and dairy products contributes to a often much shorter less healthy life. Our digestive systems dating from when we evolved centuries ago are suited for the consumption of plant foods, not meat. We have a very long digestive tract needed to process plant foods, not a short system like the carnivorous animals. I have many books in my home library on the best eating practices for long survival, and they all recomend a vegetarian diet. I was fortunately enough years ago to have married into a family that knew of the primative eating habits of certain of the South American Indians and how at the age of one hundred years many of them can still run marathon distances, all on a very simple vegetarian diet. I also know of many other cultures around the world that have very long life spans due to the same eating habits. I can recommend Dr. Joel Fuhrman's book "Eat To Live" and the English author, Peter Cox with his book "Why You Don't Need Meat" as a start to trying to extend your life for another ten, twenty or even thirty years as against the norm presently experienced by most people. JamesBond0070
  • Score: -23

1:03pm Wed 19 Feb 14

agent_p says...

BournemouthMum wrote:
Mindvor wrote:
BournemouthMum wrote:
Squars wrote:
BournemouthMum wrote: Almost all choking incidences involve meat. As a (healthy) vegetarian who hasn't touched a morsel of meat for over 12 years I have to wonder whether humans have evolved away from eating meat - maybe we're not meant to eat it anymore since it causes so many health problems - i.e. cancer and heart disease etc? Terrible tragedy.
What utter rubbish.Can you quote any studies-real, proper science to back up this nonsense?
http://dodd.ohio.gov /healthandsafety/Doc uments/41-06-07.pdf There's one study. Don't have time to research further but I do recall reading a few reports of choking involving sausages. Of course other foods can be involved but meat accounts for a large percentage. Oh and I am NOT against meat eating by the way (I cook meat for my son) and respect people's decision to eat meat. My comment was just an observation and based on my own theory.
Excellent report :) From this we can surmise that you are just as likely to choke when eating pasta, vegetables or fruit (33%) as you are meat (35%) and that the primary cause of choking is eating to fast. Maybe the reason we hear more about choking incidents involving "meat" is that more people eat meat than are vegetarian (or vege's eat slower)? Horribly tragic when anyone is taken ahead of their time, sorry for the families loss.
Could be. Or it could be that our teeth aren't as sharp as they once were and aren't as capable of chewing meat properly - hence my evolution theory. As I've said, just my observation and opinion which of course I am entitled to. Whatever the reason it was a terrible tragedy and I too am sorry for this man's poor family.
http://www.mamamia.c
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[quote][p][bold]BournemouthMum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mindvor[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BournemouthMum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Squars[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BournemouthMum[/bold] wrote: Almost all choking incidences involve meat. As a (healthy) vegetarian who hasn't touched a morsel of meat for over 12 years I have to wonder whether humans have evolved away from eating meat - maybe we're not meant to eat it anymore since it causes so many health problems - i.e. cancer and heart disease etc? Terrible tragedy.[/p][/quote]What utter rubbish.Can you quote any studies-real, proper science to back up this nonsense?[/p][/quote]http://dodd.ohio.gov /healthandsafety/Doc uments/41-06-07.pdf There's one study. Don't have time to research further but I do recall reading a few reports of choking involving sausages. Of course other foods can be involved but meat accounts for a large percentage. Oh and I am NOT against meat eating by the way (I cook meat for my son) and respect people's decision to eat meat. My comment was just an observation and based on my own theory.[/p][/quote]Excellent report :) From this we can surmise that you are just as likely to choke when eating pasta, vegetables or fruit (33%) as you are meat (35%) and that the primary cause of choking is eating to fast. Maybe the reason we hear more about choking incidents involving "meat" is that more people eat meat than are vegetarian (or vege's eat slower)? Horribly tragic when anyone is taken ahead of their time, sorry for the families loss.[/p][/quote]Could be. Or it could be that our teeth aren't as sharp as they once were and aren't as capable of chewing meat properly - hence my evolution theory. As I've said, just my observation and opinion which of course I am entitled to. Whatever the reason it was a terrible tragedy and I too am sorry for this man's poor family.[/p][/quote]http://www.mamamia.c om.au/social/no-your e-not-entitled-to-yo ur-opinion/ agent_p
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1:10pm Wed 19 Feb 14

Squars says...

JamesBond0070 wrote:
Squars says:- What utter rubbish. Can you quote any studies- real, proper science to back up this nonsense?
I certainly can, Squars just has to look into his computer under the word "Vegetarian", to find out that the eating of meat and dairy products contributes to a often much shorter less healthy life. Our digestive systems dating from when we evolved centuries ago are suited for the consumption of plant foods, not meat. We have a very long digestive tract needed to process plant foods, not a short system like the carnivorous animals. I have many books in my home library on the best eating practices for long survival, and they all recomend a vegetarian diet. I was fortunately enough years ago to have married into a family that knew of the primative eating habits of certain of the South American Indians and how at the age of one hundred years many of them can still run marathon distances, all on a very simple vegetarian diet. I also know of many other cultures around the world that have very long life spans due to the same eating habits. I can recommend Dr. Joel Fuhrman's book "Eat To Live" and the English author, Peter Cox with his book "Why You Don't Need Meat" as a start to trying to extend your life for another ten, twenty or even thirty years as against the norm presently experienced by most people.
I asked for science, real, proper science!
[quote][p][bold]JamesBond0070[/bold] wrote: Squars says:- What utter rubbish. Can you quote any studies- real, proper science to back up this nonsense? I certainly can, Squars just has to look into his computer under the word "Vegetarian", to find out that the eating of meat and dairy products contributes to a often much shorter less healthy life. Our digestive systems dating from when we evolved centuries ago are suited for the consumption of plant foods, not meat. We have a very long digestive tract needed to process plant foods, not a short system like the carnivorous animals. I have many books in my home library on the best eating practices for long survival, and they all recomend a vegetarian diet. I was fortunately enough years ago to have married into a family that knew of the primative eating habits of certain of the South American Indians and how at the age of one hundred years many of them can still run marathon distances, all on a very simple vegetarian diet. I also know of many other cultures around the world that have very long life spans due to the same eating habits. I can recommend Dr. Joel Fuhrman's book "Eat To Live" and the English author, Peter Cox with his book "Why You Don't Need Meat" as a start to trying to extend your life for another ten, twenty or even thirty years as against the norm presently experienced by most people.[/p][/quote]I asked for science, real, proper science! Squars
  • Score: 2

1:16pm Wed 19 Feb 14

uponthevoid says...

"David Atkins, 46, an IT entrepreneur and Army reservist, collapsed outside Sainsbury’s supermarket in Poole town centre while eating his lunch on New Year’s Eve 2013."

If this happened last year, why is it being reported on now? Also I agree with everyone else on the issue of sensitivity, and again i'm not sure how this is 'news'.
"David Atkins, 46, an IT entrepreneur and Army reservist, collapsed outside Sainsbury’s supermarket in Poole town centre while eating his lunch on New Year’s Eve 2013." If this happened last year, why is it being reported on now? Also I agree with everyone else on the issue of sensitivity, and again i'm not sure how this is 'news'. uponthevoid
  • Score: 3

2:05pm Wed 19 Feb 14

Sir Beachy Head says...

BournemouthMum wrote:
Almost all choking incidences involve meat. As a (healthy) vegetarian who hasn't touched a morsel of meat for over 12 years I have to wonder whether humans have evolved away from eating meat - maybe we're not meant to eat it anymore since it causes so many health problems - i.e. cancer and heart disease etc? Terrible tragedy.
Not so.

Around 30 people a year in the uk die from choking on boiled sweets.

I do hope your recover from your vegetarianism. A bacon sandwich usually does the trick.
[quote][p][bold]BournemouthMum[/bold] wrote: Almost all choking incidences involve meat. As a (healthy) vegetarian who hasn't touched a morsel of meat for over 12 years I have to wonder whether humans have evolved away from eating meat - maybe we're not meant to eat it anymore since it causes so many health problems - i.e. cancer and heart disease etc? Terrible tragedy.[/p][/quote]Not so. Around 30 people a year in the uk die from choking on boiled sweets. I do hope your recover from your vegetarianism. A bacon sandwich usually does the trick. Sir Beachy Head
  • Score: 17

2:43pm Wed 19 Feb 14

hamworthygirl says...

How insensitive to comment in this story about the rights and wrongs of eating meat or eating on the go. I am really sorry for the family what a terrible unlucky tragedy my thoughts are with them.
How insensitive to comment in this story about the rights and wrongs of eating meat or eating on the go. I am really sorry for the family what a terrible unlucky tragedy my thoughts are with them. hamworthygirl
  • Score: 15

2:52pm Wed 19 Feb 14

Patrick Shelley says...

This is a terrible tragedy. It just goes to force home how vulnerable we all are.

This is a video on what to do if you choke alone, from an experienced Fire Fighter Medic in the USA:

http://www.youtube.c
om/watch?v=Op2TjTQs7
X0
This is a terrible tragedy. It just goes to force home how vulnerable we all are. This is a video on what to do if you choke alone, from an experienced Fire Fighter Medic in the USA: http://www.youtube.c om/watch?v=Op2TjTQs7 X0 Patrick Shelley
  • Score: 5

4:54pm Wed 19 Feb 14

bobsworthforever says...

The man choked and then subsequently died hqw sad and how unfortunate then the PC brigade start a argument about vegetarian sausages. Even sadder.
The man choked and then subsequently died hqw sad and how unfortunate then the PC brigade start a argument about vegetarian sausages. Even sadder. bobsworthforever
  • Score: 10

5:09pm Wed 19 Feb 14

SeafaringMan says...

Cosmic Crusader wrote:
A tragic incident which illustrates the dangers of the modern trend of eating "on the go".
I can just imagine what my Mum would have said if she had caught me eating in the street!
[quote][p][bold]Cosmic Crusader[/bold] wrote: A tragic incident which illustrates the dangers of the modern trend of eating "on the go".[/p][/quote]I can just imagine what my Mum would have said if she had caught me eating in the street! SeafaringMan
  • Score: -2

5:35pm Wed 19 Feb 14

joeinpoole says...

BournemouthMum wrote:
Almost all choking incidences involve meat. As a (healthy) vegetarian who hasn't touched a morsel of meat for over 12 years I have to wonder whether humans have evolved away from eating meat - maybe we're not meant to eat it anymore since it causes so many health problems - i.e. cancer and heart disease etc? Terrible tragedy.
About 600 people a year die from falling down stairs. Maybe we've 'evolved' from using stairs?

What if a greengrocer van knocked down and killed someone? Would you stop eating vegetables too?
[quote][p][bold]BournemouthMum[/bold] wrote: Almost all choking incidences involve meat. As a (healthy) vegetarian who hasn't touched a morsel of meat for over 12 years I have to wonder whether humans have evolved away from eating meat - maybe we're not meant to eat it anymore since it causes so many health problems - i.e. cancer and heart disease etc? Terrible tragedy.[/p][/quote]About 600 people a year die from falling down stairs. Maybe we've 'evolved' from using stairs? What if a greengrocer van knocked down and killed someone? Would you stop eating vegetables too? joeinpoole
  • Score: 2

6:02pm Wed 19 Feb 14

scrumpyjack says...

BournemouthMum wrote:
Almost all choking incidences involve meat. As a (healthy) vegetarian who hasn't touched a morsel of meat for over 12 years I have to wonder whether humans have evolved away from eating meat - maybe we're not meant to eat it anymore since it causes so many health problems - i.e. cancer and heart disease etc? Terrible tragedy.
I see the 'voting system' has been hacked again.

As for this comment from BM, can you please take the time to look up 'canine teeth' and 'omnivorous'?

Stupidest thing I have read (well top 10).

Heartfelt sympathies to the deceased's family, especially the awful timing, some tough NYE's ahead for all concerned.
[quote][p][bold]BournemouthMum[/bold] wrote: Almost all choking incidences involve meat. As a (healthy) vegetarian who hasn't touched a morsel of meat for over 12 years I have to wonder whether humans have evolved away from eating meat - maybe we're not meant to eat it anymore since it causes so many health problems - i.e. cancer and heart disease etc? Terrible tragedy.[/p][/quote]I see the 'voting system' has been hacked again. As for this comment from BM, can you please take the time to look up 'canine teeth' and 'omnivorous'? Stupidest thing I have read (well top 10). Heartfelt sympathies to the deceased's family, especially the awful timing, some tough NYE's ahead for all concerned. scrumpyjack
  • Score: 7

6:05pm Wed 19 Feb 14

scrumpyjack says...

BournemouthMum wrote:
Squars wrote:
BournemouthMum wrote:
Almost all choking incidences involve meat. As a (healthy) vegetarian who hasn't touched a morsel of meat for over 12 years I have to wonder whether humans have evolved away from eating meat - maybe we're not meant to eat it anymore since it causes so many health problems - i.e. cancer and heart disease etc? Terrible tragedy.
What utter rubbish.Can you quote any studies-real, proper science to back up this nonsense?
http://dodd.ohio.gov

/healthandsafety/Doc

uments/41-06-07.pdf There's one study. Don't have time to research further but I do recall reading a few reports of choking involving sausages. Of course other foods can be involved but meat accounts for a large percentage.

Oh and I am NOT against meat eating by the way (I cook meat for my son) and respect people's decision to eat meat. My comment was just an observation and based on my own theory.
All we need to understand and move on without further comment:

'My comment was just an observation and based on my own theory.'


I wish I had not 'bit'. This is not the time or the place.
[quote][p][bold]BournemouthMum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Squars[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BournemouthMum[/bold] wrote: Almost all choking incidences involve meat. As a (healthy) vegetarian who hasn't touched a morsel of meat for over 12 years I have to wonder whether humans have evolved away from eating meat - maybe we're not meant to eat it anymore since it causes so many health problems - i.e. cancer and heart disease etc? Terrible tragedy.[/p][/quote]What utter rubbish.Can you quote any studies-real, proper science to back up this nonsense?[/p][/quote]http://dodd.ohio.gov /healthandsafety/Doc uments/41-06-07.pdf There's one study. Don't have time to research further but I do recall reading a few reports of choking involving sausages. Of course other foods can be involved but meat accounts for a large percentage. Oh and I am NOT against meat eating by the way (I cook meat for my son) and respect people's decision to eat meat. My comment was just an observation and based on my own theory.[/p][/quote]All we need to understand and move on without further comment: 'My comment was just an observation and based on my own theory.' I wish I had not 'bit'. This is not the time or the place. scrumpyjack
  • Score: 4

6:08pm Wed 19 Feb 14

scrumpyjack says...

JamesBond0070 wrote:
Squars says:- What utter rubbish. Can you quote any studies- real, proper science to back up this nonsense?
I certainly can, Squars just has to look into his computer under the word "Vegetarian", to find out that the eating of meat and dairy products contributes to a often much shorter less healthy life. Our digestive systems dating from when we evolved centuries ago are suited for the consumption of plant foods, not meat. We have a very long digestive tract needed to process plant foods, not a short system like the carnivorous animals. I have many books in my home library on the best eating practices for long survival, and they all recomend a vegetarian diet. I was fortunately enough years ago to have married into a family that knew of the primative eating habits of certain of the South American Indians and how at the age of one hundred years many of them can still run marathon distances, all on a very simple vegetarian diet. I also know of many other cultures around the world that have very long life spans due to the same eating habits. I can recommend Dr. Joel Fuhrman's book "Eat To Live" and the English author, Peter Cox with his book "Why You Don't Need Meat" as a start to trying to extend your life for another ten, twenty or even thirty years as against the norm presently experienced by most people.
I will look out for you in another forum.
[quote][p][bold]JamesBond0070[/bold] wrote: Squars says:- What utter rubbish. Can you quote any studies- real, proper science to back up this nonsense? I certainly can, Squars just has to look into his computer under the word "Vegetarian", to find out that the eating of meat and dairy products contributes to a often much shorter less healthy life. Our digestive systems dating from when we evolved centuries ago are suited for the consumption of plant foods, not meat. We have a very long digestive tract needed to process plant foods, not a short system like the carnivorous animals. I have many books in my home library on the best eating practices for long survival, and they all recomend a vegetarian diet. I was fortunately enough years ago to have married into a family that knew of the primative eating habits of certain of the South American Indians and how at the age of one hundred years many of them can still run marathon distances, all on a very simple vegetarian diet. I also know of many other cultures around the world that have very long life spans due to the same eating habits. I can recommend Dr. Joel Fuhrman's book "Eat To Live" and the English author, Peter Cox with his book "Why You Don't Need Meat" as a start to trying to extend your life for another ten, twenty or even thirty years as against the norm presently experienced by most people.[/p][/quote]I will look out for you in another forum. scrumpyjack
  • Score: 1

6:37pm Wed 19 Feb 14

Tina.mah2403 says...

I had the pleasure of working with David at the end of last year, he worked at weekends in the charity shop in Poole that I am the manager of. He was such a gentleman and my thoughts go out to his children and family at this sad time!
I had the pleasure of working with David at the end of last year, he worked at weekends in the charity shop in Poole that I am the manager of. He was such a gentleman and my thoughts go out to his children and family at this sad time! Tina.mah2403
  • Score: 9

7:44pm Wed 19 Feb 14

Alantrom says...

hamworthygirl wrote:
How insensitive to comment in this story about the rights and wrongs of eating meat or eating on the go. I am really sorry for the family what a terrible unlucky tragedy my thoughts are with them.
I couldn't agree more!
This is a very sad case and obviously very upsetting for all his family and friends. I think it is very dis-respectful to use this sad case as something to hang one's opinions on about what we, as individuals, chose to eat.
Show some respect please.
[quote][p][bold]hamworthygirl[/bold] wrote: How insensitive to comment in this story about the rights and wrongs of eating meat or eating on the go. I am really sorry for the family what a terrible unlucky tragedy my thoughts are with them.[/p][/quote]I couldn't agree more! This is a very sad case and obviously very upsetting for all his family and friends. I think it is very dis-respectful to use this sad case as something to hang one's opinions on about what we, as individuals, chose to eat. Show some respect please. Alantrom
  • Score: 3

8:12pm Wed 19 Feb 14

wizzydolphin says...

Does it really matter what this gentleman choked on or whether he was eating on the go or not??? The sad fact is he lost his life and now the family have to face the future without him. I am disgusted to read these comments from people that I assume are grown adults. A gentleman has lost his life tragically. My brother was the person that found him outside Sainsburys and was fighting to keep him alive while waiting for the paramedics and my heartfelt condolences go to each and everyone of his family and friends. May he rest in peace
Does it really matter what this gentleman choked on or whether he was eating on the go or not??? The sad fact is he lost his life and now the family have to face the future without him. I am disgusted to read these comments from people that I assume are grown adults. A gentleman has lost his life tragically. My brother was the person that found him outside Sainsburys and was fighting to keep him alive while waiting for the paramedics and my heartfelt condolences go to each and everyone of his family and friends. May he rest in peace wizzydolphin
  • Score: 10

8:28pm Wed 19 Feb 14

kalebmoledirt says...

Will the Echo,(nominated for some local award) apologise for generating this low life1950 style sick journalism.you really are a disgrace hiding behind the shield of journalistic freedom .show some balls and apologise for being so bloody offensive And pointless .your a bunch of low life **** ratbags
Will the Echo,(nominated for some local award) apologise for generating this low life1950 style sick journalism.you really are a disgrace hiding behind the shield of journalistic freedom .show some balls and apologise for being so bloody offensive And pointless .your a bunch of low life **** ratbags kalebmoledirt
  • Score: 8

8:31pm Wed 19 Feb 14

kalebmoledirt says...

kalebmoledirt wrote:
Will the Echo,(nominated for some local award) apologise for generating this low life1950 style sick journalism.you really are a disgrace hiding behind the shield of journalistic freedom .show some balls and apologise for being so bloody offensive And pointless .your a bunch of low life **** ratbags
The censored word began with F and rymed with bucking
[quote][p][bold]kalebmoledirt[/bold] wrote: Will the Echo,(nominated for some local award) apologise for generating this low life1950 style sick journalism.you really are a disgrace hiding behind the shield of journalistic freedom .show some balls and apologise for being so bloody offensive And pointless .your a bunch of low life **** ratbags[/p][/quote]The censored word began with F and rymed with bucking kalebmoledirt
  • Score: -1

8:50am Thu 20 Feb 14

parley says...

BournemouthMum wrote:
Almost all choking incidences involve meat. As a (healthy) vegetarian who hasn't touched a morsel of meat for over 12 years I have to wonder whether humans have evolved away from eating meat - maybe we're not meant to eat it anymore since it causes so many health problems - i.e. cancer and heart disease etc? Terrible tragedy.
I'm sure this important bit of information has helped his family hugely. Couldn't you have come up with a more irrelevant bit of claptrap for readers to endure? (by the way I am veggie and still suffer health problems).
[quote][p][bold]BournemouthMum[/bold] wrote: Almost all choking incidences involve meat. As a (healthy) vegetarian who hasn't touched a morsel of meat for over 12 years I have to wonder whether humans have evolved away from eating meat - maybe we're not meant to eat it anymore since it causes so many health problems - i.e. cancer and heart disease etc? Terrible tragedy.[/p][/quote]I'm sure this important bit of information has helped his family hugely. Couldn't you have come up with a more irrelevant bit of claptrap for readers to endure? (by the way I am veggie and still suffer health problems). parley
  • Score: 3

9:47am Thu 20 Feb 14

thevoiceofreason1 says...

the daily echo....just won toilet paper of the year award
the daily echo....just won toilet paper of the year award thevoiceofreason1
  • Score: 3

10:25pm Thu 20 Feb 14

stevobath says...

thevoiceofreason1 wrote:
the daily echo....just won toilet paper of the year award
Wipe your, bum with Gorilla glass do we?
[quote][p][bold]thevoiceofreason1[/bold] wrote: the daily echo....just won toilet paper of the year award[/p][/quote]Wipe your, bum with Gorilla glass do we? stevobath
  • Score: -1

2:39pm Mon 3 Mar 14

From the sidelines says...

uponthevoid wrote:
"David Atkins, 46, an IT entrepreneur and Army reservist, collapsed outside Sainsbury’s supermarket in Poole town centre while eating his lunch on New Year’s Eve 2013."

If this happened last year, why is it being reported on now? Also I agree with everyone else on the issue of sensitivity, and again i'm not sure how this is 'news'.
New Year's Eve 2013 would have been about 9 weeks ago. It would have been 31/12/13, the day before 1/1/14.
[quote][p][bold]uponthevoid[/bold] wrote: "David Atkins, 46, an IT entrepreneur and Army reservist, collapsed outside Sainsbury’s supermarket in Poole town centre while eating his lunch on New Year’s Eve 2013." If this happened last year, why is it being reported on now? Also I agree with everyone else on the issue of sensitivity, and again i'm not sure how this is 'news'.[/p][/quote]New Year's Eve 2013 would have been about 9 weeks ago. It would have been 31/12/13, the day before 1/1/14. From the sidelines
  • Score: 2

2:43pm Mon 3 Mar 14

From the sidelines says...

I am sure that Mr Atkins would have survived had he sat down to dine, used a knife and fork, and chewed every mouthful properly. He might also have enjoyed his sausage more, too.

On the other hand, it is a shame that others in the street lacked ability or inclination to use the most basic first aid skills that would have saved his life.
I am sure that Mr Atkins would have survived had he sat down to dine, used a knife and fork, and chewed every mouthful properly. He might also have enjoyed his sausage more, too. On the other hand, it is a shame that others in the street lacked ability or inclination to use the most basic first aid skills that would have saved his life. From the sidelines
  • Score: 3

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