Poole councillor calls for review over how council decisions are made

Poole councillor calls for review over how council decisions are made

Poole councillor calls for review over how council decisions are made

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A REVIEW of how council decisions are made has been called for by Borough of Poole councillor Sally Carpenter, pictured.

The Poole People member has submitted a motion to full council, seconded by colleague Cllr Mark Howell, calling for an in-depth review of its decision making process in the light of the need to make significant savings.

She said: “It is vital that decision making processes are efficient, effective and representative of community views.”

Her motion calls on council to, “Conduct an in-depth review of its decision making process, including consideration of alternatives to the leader and cabinet system, with a view to reinforcing the democratic process and increasing transparency.

“The review should begin promptly and be scheduled to be completed in time for any proposed revisions to be adopted by the council immediately following the May 2015 council elections,” says the motion.

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5:34pm Mon 17 Feb 14

Teddy 1 says...

Here here...a certain temporary camp decision taking into account the land being deemed unfit due to soil contamination springs to mind and another persons sacking from the poole cabinet!
Here here...a certain temporary camp decision taking into account the land being deemed unfit due to soil contamination springs to mind and another persons sacking from the poole cabinet! Teddy 1
  • Score: 8

5:49pm Mon 17 Feb 14

dorsetspeed says...

Good luck!
Good luck! dorsetspeed
  • Score: 1

6:24pm Mon 17 Feb 14

smhinto says...

I was'nt aware that the Council could make decisions in the first place (apart from the wrong ones) and or creatring bedlum, chaos and uproar whenever decisons making is forced upon them.
I was'nt aware that the Council could make decisions in the first place (apart from the wrong ones) and or creatring bedlum, chaos and uproar whenever decisons making is forced upon them. smhinto
  • Score: -3

6:58pm Mon 17 Feb 14

Carolyn43 says...

It's about time democracy returned to Poole Council. The cabinet system was created by councillors without seeking the views of the electorate and just look where it's got us - a few people making decisions that affect everyone strong arming the rest of the elected councillors into agreeing with them. Dictatorship in action.
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The stupid choice of unsuitable contaminated ground on the gateway to Poole as a traveller site being the latest example. The cabinet is supposed to decide what's best for the residents and the town, and when one council sides with her residents against this ridiculous plan plan, she gets the sack.
It's about time democracy returned to Poole Council. The cabinet system was created by councillors without seeking the views of the electorate and just look where it's got us - a few people making decisions that affect everyone strong arming the rest of the elected councillors into agreeing with them. Dictatorship in action. ....... The stupid choice of unsuitable contaminated ground on the gateway to Poole as a traveller site being the latest example. The cabinet is supposed to decide what's best for the residents and the town, and when one council sides with her residents against this ridiculous plan plan, she gets the sack. Carolyn43
  • Score: 2

8:20pm Mon 17 Feb 14

apm1954 says...

was this cllr a tory at the last election, perhaps the electorate should have a say on that. if she wants the community views.
was this cllr a tory at the last election, perhaps the electorate should have a say on that. if she wants the community views. apm1954
  • Score: 2

8:39pm Mon 17 Feb 14

peterm8264 says...

at last someone with a bit of brain seeing that the electorate of poole are being dictated by a bossy mayor .hooray lets put it in action now forget the elections
at last someone with a bit of brain seeing that the electorate of poole are being dictated by a bossy mayor .hooray lets put it in action now forget the elections peterm8264
  • Score: 5

10:41pm Mon 17 Feb 14

Gonetothebeach says...

An excellent resolution. How could anyone argue against the sense of this. One key issue for the future might be ensuring that the Council makes full use of the talents and skills of all it's councillors in decision making and not solely those of the 'ruling' party. There are ways to streamline while retaining accountability, and there are innovations around the country to learn from.
An excellent resolution. How could anyone argue against the sense of this. One key issue for the future might be ensuring that the Council makes full use of the talents and skills of all it's councillors in decision making and not solely those of the 'ruling' party. There are ways to streamline while retaining accountability, and there are innovations around the country to learn from. Gonetothebeach
  • Score: 3

9:26am Tue 18 Feb 14

fairandsquared says...

What a load of tosh. As soon as any person, councillor or resident, don't get their own way, they think democracy is being ignored and want to change the system. A lot of people in our area in Parkstone are happy with a Traveller site, we are fed up with illegal and trashy camps being set up by travellers and want the council to sort it out. The decision council made was reflective of our opinions - so what isn't working?.
Ms Carpenter crossed the floor and now isn't getting her views heard so think the whole process should be changed. This reeks of Poole People just wanting a bigger part in decisions, now that would be a problem for any of us that run a business, drive a car, own a boat or want to shop in Poole.
What a load of tosh. As soon as any person, councillor or resident, don't get their own way, they think democracy is being ignored and want to change the system. A lot of people in our area in Parkstone are happy with a Traveller site, we are fed up with illegal and trashy camps being set up by travellers and want the council to sort it out. The decision council made was reflective of our opinions - so what isn't working?. Ms Carpenter crossed the floor and now isn't getting her views heard so think the whole process should be changed. This reeks of Poole People just wanting a bigger part in decisions, now that would be a problem for any of us that run a business, drive a car, own a boat or want to shop in Poole. fairandsquared
  • Score: 3

4:04pm Tue 18 Feb 14

pete woodley says...

Just like UKIP, vote catching at its best.
Just like UKIP, vote catching at its best. pete woodley
  • Score: 0

9:21pm Tue 18 Feb 14

kalebmoledirt says...

What,s the record for woman that Don,t look like pro darts players.Sally like clle Butt your days are numbered
What,s the record for woman that Don,t look like pro darts players.Sally like clle Butt your days are numbered kalebmoledirt
  • Score: -1

12:00am Wed 19 Feb 14

s-pb2 says...

fairandsquared wrote:
What a load of tosh. As soon as any person, councillor or resident, don't get their own way, they think democracy is being ignored and want to change the system. A lot of people in our area in Parkstone are happy with a Traveller site, we are fed up with illegal and trashy camps being set up by travellers and want the council to sort it out. The decision council made was reflective of our opinions - so what isn't working?.
Ms Carpenter crossed the floor and now isn't getting her views heard so think the whole process should be changed. This reeks of Poole People just wanting a bigger part in decisions, now that would be a problem for any of us that run a business, drive a car, own a boat or want to shop in Poole.
Agreed. Theres no indication to what extent this proposal should reach making it utterly pointless.

So if a council employee needs to purchase a pen, under this proposal they would need to seek the approval of the local community. Extreme example I know, but thats what shes saying. Council workers are making decisions every day that affect peoples lives and even in the case of social care, saving them. To delay them for in depth review and transparency in particular for the biggest area of council work, social care, would cause delays which could be harmful and dangerous
[quote][p][bold]fairandsquared[/bold] wrote: What a load of tosh. As soon as any person, councillor or resident, don't get their own way, they think democracy is being ignored and want to change the system. A lot of people in our area in Parkstone are happy with a Traveller site, we are fed up with illegal and trashy camps being set up by travellers and want the council to sort it out. The decision council made was reflective of our opinions - so what isn't working?. Ms Carpenter crossed the floor and now isn't getting her views heard so think the whole process should be changed. This reeks of Poole People just wanting a bigger part in decisions, now that would be a problem for any of us that run a business, drive a car, own a boat or want to shop in Poole.[/p][/quote]Agreed. Theres no indication to what extent this proposal should reach making it utterly pointless. So if a council employee needs to purchase a pen, under this proposal they would need to seek the approval of the local community. Extreme example I know, but thats what shes saying. Council workers are making decisions every day that affect peoples lives and even in the case of social care, saving them. To delay them for in depth review and transparency in particular for the biggest area of council work, social care, would cause delays which could be harmful and dangerous s-pb2
  • Score: -1

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