£850k plans to transform ‘run-down’ Horseshoe Common set to begin

CHANGES: Artist’s impression of how Horseshoe Common could look after road and landscaping improvements

Cllr Michael Filer

First published in News by

AN £850,000 package of improvements to change the street layout and landscape of one of Bournemouth’s most run-down areas will begin next week.

The redevelopment of Horseshoe Common will see the roundabout at Old Christchurch Road replaced with a junction and a new shared space will be created between Horseshoe Common and Old Christchurch Road.

New walking and cycling routes will be created and unnecessary railings and signs will be removed to give the area a less cluttered appearance.

The area will also benefit from new street furniture, trees and shrubs.

Taxi parking and bus stops will be relocated and Old Christchurch Road, Dean Park Crescent and Madeira Road will be included in a 20mph zone. A night-time road closure will also be put in place.

The project will last for around six months and the first phase will see Dean Park Crescent closed to all vehicles for approximately six weeks.

During this time, there will be no access from Old Christchurch Road and limited access from Richmond Hill for residents and businesses only.

It is part of the Three Towns Travel scheme, which aims to improve transport links in Bournemouth, Poole and Christchurch.

Cllr Michael Filer, cabinet member for transport, said: “Horseshoe Common and its surrounding area is a key route for those travelling between Bournemouth Travel Interchange and the Town Centre.

“The street improvements will complement the ongoing regeneration being carried out at this town centre location. Once complete this regeneration will increase the vitality of the area, making it a more pleasant place for people to visit and stimulate economic activity and employment.”

The improvements complement regeneration work underway at nearby Leyton Mount, where a development of flats and commercial space is currently under construction.

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1:08pm Mon 10 Feb 14

Townee says...

Another £850.000 of our money spent on more waste of space. This area will never be a popular one, it's in the backside of Bournemouth where only drunken yobs go to the clubs in that area. Make the clubs pay towards it they are the ones who have degraded the area.
Another £850.000 of our money spent on more waste of space. This area will never be a popular one, it's in the backside of Bournemouth where only drunken yobs go to the clubs in that area. Make the clubs pay towards it they are the ones who have degraded the area. Townee
  • Score: 6

1:22pm Mon 10 Feb 14

BmthNewshound says...

How do "improvements" to Horseshoe common improve transport links ? This is another Council lie to help make the new apartments which have been built using tax payers money more attractive to potential buyers.
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With such a high concentration of drinking establishments in the area the changes may encourage drinkers to spill out of the bars and congregate on the street. Just amazes me how the Council appear to have a bottomless pit of money for window dressing whilst vital services are being cut to the core.
How do "improvements" to Horseshoe common improve transport links ? This is another Council lie to help make the new apartments which have been built using tax payers money more attractive to potential buyers. . With such a high concentration of drinking establishments in the area the changes may encourage drinkers to spill out of the bars and congregate on the street. Just amazes me how the Council appear to have a bottomless pit of money for window dressing whilst vital services are being cut to the core. BmthNewshound
  • Score: 18

3:09pm Mon 10 Feb 14

60plus says...

They should turn it into a traveller site they might get discount on the Tarmac ,it would solve the problem of Bournemouth not having a site.
They should turn it into a traveller site they might get discount on the Tarmac ,it would solve the problem of Bournemouth not having a site. 60plus
  • Score: -7

3:28pm Mon 10 Feb 14

speedy231278 says...

20mph and nighttime road closures? Why? Funny how the council haven't cared about the area for ages, but when their chums Morgan Sindall come along and build University buidings and residential dwellings around the common (all on what used to be car parks), 'in partnership with Bournemouth Council', they suddenly start tarting the place up!

Apart from more traffic congestion, what exactly will closing some of the roads achieve, apart from the odd near-miss with drunken students rolling out the bars and clubs at all hours?
20mph and nighttime road closures? Why? Funny how the council haven't cared about the area for ages, but when their chums Morgan Sindall come along and build University buidings and residential dwellings around the common (all on what used to be car parks), 'in partnership with Bournemouth Council', they suddenly start tarting the place up! Apart from more traffic congestion, what exactly will closing some of the roads achieve, apart from the odd near-miss with drunken students rolling out the bars and clubs at all hours? speedy231278
  • Score: 15

3:28pm Mon 10 Feb 14

Branksome snail says...

......It is part of the Three Towns Travel scheme, which aims to improve transport links in Bournemouth, Poole and Christchurch.....un-
quote

a new shared area
new walking routes
new cycling routes

How do these improve transport links exactly

And theyre going to spend £850,000 of that fund on this?!
......It is part of the Three Towns Travel scheme, which aims to improve transport links in Bournemouth, Poole and Christchurch.....un- quote a new shared area new walking routes new cycling routes How do these improve transport links exactly And theyre going to spend £850,000 of that fund on this?! Branksome snail
  • Score: 10

3:32pm Mon 10 Feb 14

muscliffman says...

Apart from usually overflowing with weak Council speak 'blah, blah', why is it that whenever we read Councillor Filer's name in an Echo article we just know vast sums of our tax money is going to be blown yet again for absolutely no good reason.

This Horseshoe Common project makes no financial sense whatsoever, a dab of pain and a shrub here and there (wow!), new street furniture replacing perfectly good existing equipment apparently just for the sake of it and yet more cycle lanes to suit a vocal minority of road users at the expense of the majority - because of course behind the Councillor's usual spin this is predictably anti-motorist. And what exactly is 'shared space' - who is sharing what space and with whom, because it sounds (hic!) potentially dangerous?

They have more (of our) money than sense - WE GET IT, no need to keep on proving it, this time with another whopping £850,000.
Apart from usually overflowing with weak Council speak 'blah, blah', why is it that whenever we read Councillor Filer's name in an Echo article we just know vast sums of our tax money is going to be blown yet again for absolutely no good reason. This Horseshoe Common project makes no financial sense whatsoever, a dab of pain and a shrub here and there (wow!), new street furniture replacing perfectly good existing equipment apparently just for the sake of it and yet more cycle lanes to suit a vocal minority of road users at the expense of the majority - because of course behind the Councillor's usual spin this is predictably anti-motorist. And what exactly is 'shared space' - who is sharing what space and with whom, because it sounds (hic!) potentially dangerous? They have more (of our) money than sense - WE GET IT, no need to keep on proving it, this time with another whopping £850,000. muscliffman
  • Score: 10

3:33pm Mon 10 Feb 14

speedy231278 says...

"Cllr Michael Filer, cabinet member for transport, said: “Horseshoe Common and its surrounding area is a key route for those travelling between Bournemouth Travel Interchange and the Town Centre. "

So why plan overnight road closures in the area?
"Cllr Michael Filer, cabinet member for transport, said: “Horseshoe Common and its surrounding area is a key route for those travelling between Bournemouth Travel Interchange and the Town Centre. " So why plan overnight road closures in the area? speedy231278
  • Score: 11

3:38pm Mon 10 Feb 14

speedy231278 says...

"The improvements complement regeneration work underway at nearby Leyton Mount, where a development of flats and commercial space is currently under construction."

On what was a car park. There is plenty of commercial space along Old Christchurch road, but the rates are too high for businesses to afford. Dalkeith Arcade has empty units, Burlington Arcade has empty units. Roddis house has empty units. There's empty units in that newish development on Commercial Road. The council was also trying to replace the car park by the Pavilion with a cinema/shop complex, and plans to CPO Exeter Road car park and turn it into a 'travel hub'.

What is it about cars that makes this council determined to remove all the car parks, close roads, and lower speed limits, while persecute motorists with double yellows in unnecessary places, camera cars, militant traffic wardens and high parking charges in the few remaining car parks?
"The improvements complement regeneration work underway at nearby Leyton Mount, where a development of flats and commercial space is currently under construction." On what was a car park. There is plenty of commercial space along Old Christchurch road, but the rates are too high for businesses to afford. Dalkeith Arcade has empty units, Burlington Arcade has empty units. Roddis house has empty units. There's empty units in that newish development on Commercial Road. The council was also trying to replace the car park by the Pavilion with a cinema/shop complex, and plans to CPO Exeter Road car park and turn it into a 'travel hub'. What is it about cars that makes this council determined to remove all the car parks, close roads, and lower speed limits, while persecute motorists with double yellows in unnecessary places, camera cars, militant traffic wardens and high parking charges in the few remaining car parks? speedy231278
  • Score: 11

3:40pm Mon 10 Feb 14

speedy231278 says...

muscliffman wrote:
Apart from usually overflowing with weak Council speak 'blah, blah', why is it that whenever we read Councillor Filer's name in an Echo article we just know vast sums of our tax money is going to be blown yet again for absolutely no good reason.

This Horseshoe Common project makes no financial sense whatsoever, a dab of pain and a shrub here and there (wow!), new street furniture replacing perfectly good existing equipment apparently just for the sake of it and yet more cycle lanes to suit a vocal minority of road users at the expense of the majority - because of course behind the Councillor's usual spin this is predictably anti-motorist. And what exactly is 'shared space' - who is sharing what space and with whom, because it sounds (hic!) potentially dangerous?

They have more (of our) money than sense - WE GET IT, no need to keep on proving it, this time with another whopping £850,000.
Looks like about £750K must be consultancy fees. A few park benches and a few cubic metres of tarmac won't cost much!
[quote][p][bold]muscliffman[/bold] wrote: Apart from usually overflowing with weak Council speak 'blah, blah', why is it that whenever we read Councillor Filer's name in an Echo article we just know vast sums of our tax money is going to be blown yet again for absolutely no good reason. This Horseshoe Common project makes no financial sense whatsoever, a dab of pain and a shrub here and there (wow!), new street furniture replacing perfectly good existing equipment apparently just for the sake of it and yet more cycle lanes to suit a vocal minority of road users at the expense of the majority - because of course behind the Councillor's usual spin this is predictably anti-motorist. And what exactly is 'shared space' - who is sharing what space and with whom, because it sounds (hic!) potentially dangerous? They have more (of our) money than sense - WE GET IT, no need to keep on proving it, this time with another whopping £850,000.[/p][/quote]Looks like about £750K must be consultancy fees. A few park benches and a few cubic metres of tarmac won't cost much! speedy231278
  • Score: 11

3:55pm Mon 10 Feb 14

bosco1 says...

About time they invested some money in the Asda /Travel Exchange station area. .The place is full of beggars, drunks and cycles on pavements.Anyone visiting for the 1st time from the bus station & train station must think what a place Bournemouth is.!! Good job the sign welcome to Bournemouth is on the road away from town. Yes it would be nice to see nice seats around horseshoe common but who will be sitting on them with their cans of Alcohol.!!Flower beds and anything to make the place nice will always be ruined. So im saying spend money where people first see Bournemouth clean it up.! Then work towards the town centre.
About time they invested some money in the Asda /Travel Exchange station area. .The place is full of beggars, drunks and cycles on pavements.Anyone visiting for the 1st time from the bus station & train station must think what a place Bournemouth is.!! Good job the sign welcome to Bournemouth is on the road away from town. Yes it would be nice to see nice seats around horseshoe common but who will be sitting on them with their cans of Alcohol.!!Flower beds and anything to make the place nice will always be ruined. So im saying spend money where people first see Bournemouth clean it up.! Then work towards the town centre. bosco1
  • Score: 13

4:12pm Mon 10 Feb 14

Redgolfer says...

speedy231278 wrote:
20mph and nighttime road closures? Why? Funny how the council haven't cared about the area for ages, but when their chums Morgan Sindall come along and build University buidings and residential dwellings around the common (all on what used to be car parks), 'in partnership with Bournemouth Council', they suddenly start tarting the place up!

Apart from more traffic congestion, what exactly will closing some of the roads achieve, apart from the odd near-miss with drunken students rolling out the bars and clubs at all hours?
Filer States this area is key to traveling between Interchange and the Square, ''Lies, dam lies and more dam lies'' are the yellow buses continuing to go up Old Christchurch Road during the day with this new lay out, doubt it, so that's not one key route and as they stop after 7pm, then that's another one.
At present there are 2 gates across Fir Vale Road which do not close on time, how are they going to cope with every road gated up to Stafford Road and what about parking on Old Christchurch Road, if parked legally, how do you get out after 10pm with gates shut.
When Filer shut Fir Vale Road, it turned into one of the most violent roads in the country, FACT, now with these plans it will be more of the same, with people using the night time economy having to traipse up and down the road, in all weathers with NO thought for the disable or injured who wish to use the road after 10pm.
I agree with the above poster because it was only when Morgan Sindall came along they decided on these road works, I cannot call them improvements because they are far from that, where do all the taxis rank in Bournemouth because this scheme takes out the largest rank in town and are supposed to rank outside O'neils downward.
If you do not like the idea of this scheme then go to www.thepetitionsite.
com where there is a petition calling for this scheme to stop, so if you feel as strongly as I do then ADD YOUR VOTE.
[quote][p][bold]speedy231278[/bold] wrote: 20mph and nighttime road closures? Why? Funny how the council haven't cared about the area for ages, but when their chums Morgan Sindall come along and build University buidings and residential dwellings around the common (all on what used to be car parks), 'in partnership with Bournemouth Council', they suddenly start tarting the place up! Apart from more traffic congestion, what exactly will closing some of the roads achieve, apart from the odd near-miss with drunken students rolling out the bars and clubs at all hours?[/p][/quote]Filer States this area is key to traveling between Interchange and the Square, ''Lies, dam lies and more dam lies'' are the yellow buses continuing to go up Old Christchurch Road during the day with this new lay out, doubt it, so that's not one key route and as they stop after 7pm, then that's another one. At present there are 2 gates across Fir Vale Road which do not close on time, how are they going to cope with every road gated up to Stafford Road and what about parking on Old Christchurch Road, if parked legally, how do you get out after 10pm with gates shut. When Filer shut Fir Vale Road, it turned into one of the most violent roads in the country, FACT, now with these plans it will be more of the same, with people using the night time economy having to traipse up and down the road, in all weathers with NO thought for the disable or injured who wish to use the road after 10pm. I agree with the above poster because it was only when Morgan Sindall came along they decided on these road works, I cannot call them improvements because they are far from that, where do all the taxis rank in Bournemouth because this scheme takes out the largest rank in town and are supposed to rank outside O'neils downward. If you do not like the idea of this scheme then go to www.thepetitionsite. com where there is a petition calling for this scheme to stop, so if you feel as strongly as I do then ADD YOUR VOTE. Redgolfer
  • Score: 6

5:35pm Mon 10 Feb 14

Richard 1976 says...

I'm a landscape gardener and 850k sounds a heck of a lot of spendo for the actual work that will be undertaken. Another example of public sector waste. If councils operated along the same lines as small businesses they would be bust within a couple of years..
I'm a landscape gardener and 850k sounds a heck of a lot of spendo for the actual work that will be undertaken. Another example of public sector waste. If councils operated along the same lines as small businesses they would be bust within a couple of years.. Richard 1976
  • Score: 6

6:03pm Mon 10 Feb 14

Gastines3 says...

Can the Echo completeb the job for once and advise us poor locals who was involved in the design,tenders etc and awarded this very lucrative contract? How on earth do they arrive at these figures and does anyone at council level have the qualifications or intelligence to look at a quote?
Can the Echo completeb the job for once and advise us poor locals who was involved in the design,tenders etc and awarded this very lucrative contract? How on earth do they arrive at these figures and does anyone at council level have the qualifications or intelligence to look at a quote? Gastines3
  • Score: 3

6:10pm Mon 10 Feb 14

Townee says...

Richard1976 perhaps you should put in a bid to do the work, money to be made from a stupid council.
Richard1976 perhaps you should put in a bid to do the work, money to be made from a stupid council. Townee
  • Score: 2

6:54pm Mon 10 Feb 14

Bob49 says...

Townee wrote:
Richard1976 perhaps you should put in a bid to do the work, money to be made from a stupid council.
Never mind a quote, it's the old dodgy handshake that counts

as to what will be delivered you only have to look at Boscombe Crescent where £55,000 was wasted in turning the garden into a 'year zero' wasteland ........... which is now being dug up !

And we the taxpayers are supposedly not allowed to know where OUR money went.
[quote][p][bold]Townee[/bold] wrote: Richard1976 perhaps you should put in a bid to do the work, money to be made from a stupid council.[/p][/quote]Never mind a quote, it's the old dodgy handshake that counts as to what will be delivered you only have to look at Boscombe Crescent where £55,000 was wasted in turning the garden into a 'year zero' wasteland ........... which is now being dug up ! And we the taxpayers are supposedly not allowed to know where OUR money went. Bob49
  • Score: 6

8:15pm Mon 10 Feb 14

BIGTONE says...

From the artists impression it don't look any different?
From the artists impression it don't look any different? BIGTONE
  • Score: 0

8:40pm Mon 10 Feb 14

Kiki1973 says...

I'm all for improving the area. In fact, that's why I pay tax, so that the town I live in is pretty and safe and there are more outdoor spaces so that I can actually enjoy the town even more.
I'm all for improving the area. In fact, that's why I pay tax, so that the town I live in is pretty and safe and there are more outdoor spaces so that I can actually enjoy the town even more. Kiki1973
  • Score: -5

9:23pm Mon 10 Feb 14

THEREDS1892 says...

Another wasted money from the council when they need to cut more public service by 2015 crazy run council
Another wasted money from the council when they need to cut more public service by 2015 crazy run council THEREDS1892
  • Score: 3

12:46am Tue 11 Feb 14

Kiki1973 says...

Kiki1973 wrote:
I'm all for improving the area. In fact, that's why I pay tax, so that the town I live in is pretty and safe and there are more outdoor spaces so that I can actually enjoy the town even more.
5 down votes.. What, was I too positive for the whinge fest?!
[quote][p][bold]Kiki1973[/bold] wrote: I'm all for improving the area. In fact, that's why I pay tax, so that the town I live in is pretty and safe and there are more outdoor spaces so that I can actually enjoy the town even more.[/p][/quote]5 down votes.. What, was I too positive for the whinge fest?! Kiki1973
  • Score: -1

1:11am Tue 11 Feb 14

MrPitiful says...

Kiki1973 wrote:
Kiki1973 wrote:
I'm all for improving the area. In fact, that's why I pay tax, so that the town I live in is pretty and safe and there are more outdoor spaces so that I can actually enjoy the town even more.
5 down votes.. What, was I too positive for the whinge fest?!
Correct - you were too positive. Far too positive.

That's not allowed on here.

Bear in mind though alll those who come on here to whinge and moan about the council spending "their" money are likely to have:

1 - connections with the council by way of family being council employees,
or
2 - They will have previously voted in the current
council because financially, that is what suited them best at the last voting opportunity and/or they are too afraid to vote in anyone else.

Keep reading these columns and keep contributing - the hypocracy and double-standards amongst some on here are as funny as the council itself.
[quote][p][bold]Kiki1973[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Kiki1973[/bold] wrote: I'm all for improving the area. In fact, that's why I pay tax, so that the town I live in is pretty and safe and there are more outdoor spaces so that I can actually enjoy the town even more.[/p][/quote]5 down votes.. What, was I too positive for the whinge fest?![/p][/quote]Correct - you were too positive. Far too positive. That's not allowed on here. Bear in mind though alll those who come on here to whinge and moan about the council spending "their" money are likely to have: 1 - connections with the council by way of family being council employees, or 2 - They will have previously voted in the current council because financially, that is what suited them best at the last voting opportunity and/or they are too afraid to vote in anyone else. Keep reading these columns and keep contributing - the hypocracy and double-standards amongst some on here are as funny as the council itself. MrPitiful
  • Score: -2

1:11am Tue 11 Feb 14

MrPitiful says...

Kiki1973 wrote:
Kiki1973 wrote:
I'm all for improving the area. In fact, that's why I pay tax, so that the town I live in is pretty and safe and there are more outdoor spaces so that I can actually enjoy the town even more.
5 down votes.. What, was I too positive for the whinge fest?!
Correct - you were too positive. Far too positive.

That's not allowed on here.

Bear in mind though alll those who come on here to whinge and moan about the council spending "their" money are likely to have:

1 - connections with the council by way of family being council employees,
or
2 - They will have previously voted in the current
council because financially, that is what suited them best at the last voting opportunity and/or they are too afraid to vote in anyone else.

Keep reading these columns and keep contributing - the hypocracy and double-standards amongst some on here are as funny as the council itself.
[quote][p][bold]Kiki1973[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Kiki1973[/bold] wrote: I'm all for improving the area. In fact, that's why I pay tax, so that the town I live in is pretty and safe and there are more outdoor spaces so that I can actually enjoy the town even more.[/p][/quote]5 down votes.. What, was I too positive for the whinge fest?![/p][/quote]Correct - you were too positive. Far too positive. That's not allowed on here. Bear in mind though alll those who come on here to whinge and moan about the council spending "their" money are likely to have: 1 - connections with the council by way of family being council employees, or 2 - They will have previously voted in the current council because financially, that is what suited them best at the last voting opportunity and/or they are too afraid to vote in anyone else. Keep reading these columns and keep contributing - the hypocracy and double-standards amongst some on here are as funny as the council itself. MrPitiful
  • Score: -4

9:03am Tue 11 Feb 14

Redgolfer says...

MrPitiful wrote:
Kiki1973 wrote:
Kiki1973 wrote:
I'm all for improving the area. In fact, that's why I pay tax, so that the town I live in is pretty and safe and there are more outdoor spaces so that I can actually enjoy the town even more.
5 down votes.. What, was I too positive for the whinge fest?!
Correct - you were too positive. Far too positive.

That's not allowed on here.

Bear in mind though alll those who come on here to whinge and moan about the council spending "their" money are likely to have:

1 - connections with the council by way of family being council employees,
or
2 - They will have previously voted in the current
council because financially, that is what suited them best at the last voting opportunity and/or they are too afraid to vote in anyone else.

Keep reading these columns and keep contributing - the hypocracy and double-standards amongst some on here are as funny as the council itself.
MrPitiful, whilst your opinion is as valid as all the rest and mine for that matter, how do you KNOW or is it an assumption that all who comment have connections with the council or have financial interest.
For your information that is not true on my behalf, when at the last election because there was no candidate of no political interest, I spoilt my ballot just to register my disgust at the system, no connections with the Council otherwise I would be bending their ears instead of on here.
Kiki1973 wants the money spent on things that SHE can enjoy and to hell with the rest of us and does she think that this scheme is the right way to go, especially at night where this area comes into life, will it be safer, will it be better road from Square to Interchange with ALL THOSE GATES, will you be able to get your car out after 10pm when you have parked legally, ME THINKS that somebody who thought up this scheme is telling Porkies.
[quote][p][bold]MrPitiful[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Kiki1973[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Kiki1973[/bold] wrote: I'm all for improving the area. In fact, that's why I pay tax, so that the town I live in is pretty and safe and there are more outdoor spaces so that I can actually enjoy the town even more.[/p][/quote]5 down votes.. What, was I too positive for the whinge fest?![/p][/quote]Correct - you were too positive. Far too positive. That's not allowed on here. Bear in mind though alll those who come on here to whinge and moan about the council spending "their" money are likely to have: 1 - connections with the council by way of family being council employees, or 2 - They will have previously voted in the current council because financially, that is what suited them best at the last voting opportunity and/or they are too afraid to vote in anyone else. Keep reading these columns and keep contributing - the hypocracy and double-standards amongst some on here are as funny as the council itself.[/p][/quote]MrPitiful, whilst your opinion is as valid as all the rest and mine for that matter, how do you KNOW or is it an assumption that all who comment have connections with the council or have financial interest. For your information that is not true on my behalf, when at the last election because there was no candidate of no political interest, I spoilt my ballot just to register my disgust at the system, no connections with the Council otherwise I would be bending their ears instead of on here. Kiki1973 wants the money spent on things that SHE can enjoy and to hell with the rest of us and does she think that this scheme is the right way to go, especially at night where this area comes into life, will it be safer, will it be better road from Square to Interchange with ALL THOSE GATES, will you be able to get your car out after 10pm when you have parked legally, ME THINKS that somebody who thought up this scheme is telling Porkies. Redgolfer
  • Score: 3

10:20am Tue 11 Feb 14

Lord Spring says...

Redgolfer wrote:
speedy231278 wrote:
20mph and nighttime road closures? Why? Funny how the council haven't cared about the area for ages, but when their chums Morgan Sindall come along and build University buidings and residential dwellings around the common (all on what used to be car parks), 'in partnership with Bournemouth Council', they suddenly start tarting the place up!

Apart from more traffic congestion, what exactly will closing some of the roads achieve, apart from the odd near-miss with drunken students rolling out the bars and clubs at all hours?
Filer States this area is key to traveling between Interchange and the Square, ''Lies, dam lies and more dam lies'' are the yellow buses continuing to go up Old Christchurch Road during the day with this new lay out, doubt it, so that's not one key route and as they stop after 7pm, then that's another one.
At present there are 2 gates across Fir Vale Road which do not close on time, how are they going to cope with every road gated up to Stafford Road and what about parking on Old Christchurch Road, if parked legally, how do you get out after 10pm with gates shut.
When Filer shut Fir Vale Road, it turned into one of the most violent roads in the country, FACT, now with these plans it will be more of the same, with people using the night time economy having to traipse up and down the road, in all weathers with NO thought for the disable or injured who wish to use the road after 10pm.
I agree with the above poster because it was only when Morgan Sindall came along they decided on these road works, I cannot call them improvements because they are far from that, where do all the taxis rank in Bournemouth because this scheme takes out the largest rank in town and are supposed to rank outside O'neils downward.
If you do not like the idea of this scheme then go to www.thepetitionsite.

com where there is a petition calling for this scheme to stop, so if you feel as strongly as I do then ADD YOUR VOTE.
Have you not heard of a Gated Village it is what posh people reside in.
[quote][p][bold]Redgolfer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]speedy231278[/bold] wrote: 20mph and nighttime road closures? Why? Funny how the council haven't cared about the area for ages, but when their chums Morgan Sindall come along and build University buidings and residential dwellings around the common (all on what used to be car parks), 'in partnership with Bournemouth Council', they suddenly start tarting the place up! Apart from more traffic congestion, what exactly will closing some of the roads achieve, apart from the odd near-miss with drunken students rolling out the bars and clubs at all hours?[/p][/quote]Filer States this area is key to traveling between Interchange and the Square, ''Lies, dam lies and more dam lies'' are the yellow buses continuing to go up Old Christchurch Road during the day with this new lay out, doubt it, so that's not one key route and as they stop after 7pm, then that's another one. At present there are 2 gates across Fir Vale Road which do not close on time, how are they going to cope with every road gated up to Stafford Road and what about parking on Old Christchurch Road, if parked legally, how do you get out after 10pm with gates shut. When Filer shut Fir Vale Road, it turned into one of the most violent roads in the country, FACT, now with these plans it will be more of the same, with people using the night time economy having to traipse up and down the road, in all weathers with NO thought for the disable or injured who wish to use the road after 10pm. I agree with the above poster because it was only when Morgan Sindall came along they decided on these road works, I cannot call them improvements because they are far from that, where do all the taxis rank in Bournemouth because this scheme takes out the largest rank in town and are supposed to rank outside O'neils downward. If you do not like the idea of this scheme then go to www.thepetitionsite. com where there is a petition calling for this scheme to stop, so if you feel as strongly as I do then ADD YOUR VOTE.[/p][/quote]Have you not heard of a Gated Village it is what posh people reside in. Lord Spring
  • Score: -2

10:47am Tue 11 Feb 14

speedy231278 says...

Kiki1973 wrote:
I'm all for improving the area. In fact, that's why I pay tax, so that the town I live in is pretty and safe and there are more outdoor spaces so that I can actually enjoy the town even more.
This is not about improving the area. It is about taxpayers money being spent to increase the sale value of a council development right next to it! Putting different seats in and changing the roundabout to a junction, plus faffing about with road closures and moving the taxis and buses will make no positive difference to the area for anyone else, in fact it will probably make it worse!
[quote][p][bold]Kiki1973[/bold] wrote: I'm all for improving the area. In fact, that's why I pay tax, so that the town I live in is pretty and safe and there are more outdoor spaces so that I can actually enjoy the town even more.[/p][/quote]This is not about improving the area. It is about taxpayers money being spent to increase the sale value of a council development right next to it! Putting different seats in and changing the roundabout to a junction, plus faffing about with road closures and moving the taxis and buses will make no positive difference to the area for anyone else, in fact it will probably make it worse! speedy231278
  • Score: 0

9:55pm Tue 11 Feb 14

Kiki1973 says...

Redgolfer wrote:
MrPitiful wrote:
Kiki1973 wrote:
Kiki1973 wrote:
I'm all for improving the area. In fact, that's why I pay tax, so that the town I live in is pretty and safe and there are more outdoor spaces so that I can actually enjoy the town even more.
5 down votes.. What, was I too positive for the whinge fest?!
Correct - you were too positive. Far too positive.

That's not allowed on here.

Bear in mind though alll those who come on here to whinge and moan about the council spending "their" money are likely to have:

1 - connections with the council by way of family being council employees,
or
2 - They will have previously voted in the current
council because financially, that is what suited them best at the last voting opportunity and/or they are too afraid to vote in anyone else.

Keep reading these columns and keep contributing - the hypocracy and double-standards amongst some on here are as funny as the council itself.
MrPitiful, whilst your opinion is as valid as all the rest and mine for that matter, how do you KNOW or is it an assumption that all who comment have connections with the council or have financial interest.
For your information that is not true on my behalf, when at the last election because there was no candidate of no political interest, I spoilt my ballot just to register my disgust at the system, no connections with the Council otherwise I would be bending their ears instead of on here.
Kiki1973 wants the money spent on things that SHE can enjoy and to hell with the rest of us and does she think that this scheme is the right way to go, especially at night where this area comes into life, will it be safer, will it be better road from Square to Interchange with ALL THOSE GATES, will you be able to get your car out after 10pm when you have parked legally, ME THINKS that somebody who thought up this scheme is telling Porkies.
You know what, you're right. I do want my town to have things I enjoy, that's why I live here. Why would I want to live in a place I couldn't enjoy? Seems a bit, well... Stupid, really, to live somewhere you can't enjoy. Don't you agree?

As for getting your car out after 10pm, well, I've seen nothing that indicates that this would happen. Can you show me where you found evidence of this, please? I may have missed it, so happy to read up on that.

That all said, I do like the tone you've adopted that seems to indicate that I have some sort of sway over the council... Things that I want and to hell with the rest if you? That amused me....No, dear... Just voicing an opinion that is different to yours and outside the usual dross of negativity that festers amongst the regular contributors-****-bac
kseat town planners that proliferate the message boards here.
[quote][p][bold]Redgolfer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MrPitiful[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Kiki1973[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Kiki1973[/bold] wrote: I'm all for improving the area. In fact, that's why I pay tax, so that the town I live in is pretty and safe and there are more outdoor spaces so that I can actually enjoy the town even more.[/p][/quote]5 down votes.. What, was I too positive for the whinge fest?![/p][/quote]Correct - you were too positive. Far too positive. That's not allowed on here. Bear in mind though alll those who come on here to whinge and moan about the council spending "their" money are likely to have: 1 - connections with the council by way of family being council employees, or 2 - They will have previously voted in the current council because financially, that is what suited them best at the last voting opportunity and/or they are too afraid to vote in anyone else. Keep reading these columns and keep contributing - the hypocracy and double-standards amongst some on here are as funny as the council itself.[/p][/quote]MrPitiful, whilst your opinion is as valid as all the rest and mine for that matter, how do you KNOW or is it an assumption that all who comment have connections with the council or have financial interest. For your information that is not true on my behalf, when at the last election because there was no candidate of no political interest, I spoilt my ballot just to register my disgust at the system, no connections with the Council otherwise I would be bending their ears instead of on here. Kiki1973 wants the money spent on things that SHE can enjoy and to hell with the rest of us and does she think that this scheme is the right way to go, especially at night where this area comes into life, will it be safer, will it be better road from Square to Interchange with ALL THOSE GATES, will you be able to get your car out after 10pm when you have parked legally, ME THINKS that somebody who thought up this scheme is telling Porkies.[/p][/quote]You know what, you're right. I do want my town to have things I enjoy, that's why I live here. Why would I want to live in a place I couldn't enjoy? Seems a bit, well... Stupid, really, to live somewhere you can't enjoy. Don't you agree? As for getting your car out after 10pm, well, I've seen nothing that indicates that this would happen. Can you show me where you found evidence of this, please? I may have missed it, so happy to read up on that. That all said, I do like the tone you've adopted that seems to indicate that I have some sort of sway over the council... Things that I want and to hell with the rest if you? That amused me....No, dear... Just voicing an opinion that is different to yours and outside the usual dross of negativity that festers amongst the regular contributors-****-bac kseat town planners that proliferate the message boards here. Kiki1973
  • Score: 1

10:02pm Tue 11 Feb 14

Kiki1973 says...

MrPitiful wrote:
Kiki1973 wrote:
Kiki1973 wrote:
I'm all for improving the area. In fact, that's why I pay tax, so that the town I live in is pretty and safe and there are more outdoor spaces so that I can actually enjoy the town even more.
5 down votes.. What, was I too positive for the whinge fest?!
Correct - you were too positive. Far too positive.

That's not allowed on here.

Bear in mind though alll those who come on here to whinge and moan about the council spending "their" money are likely to have:

1 - connections with the council by way of family being council employees,
or
2 - They will have previously voted in the current
council because financially, that is what suited them best at the last voting opportunity and/or they are too afraid to vote in anyone else.

Keep reading these columns and keep contributing - the hypocracy and double-standards amongst some on here are as funny as the council itself.
Cheers, Mr Pitiful! To be honest, the stick in the mud mentality that resides on the echo message boards is hilarious to me. Beautiful town, well maintained, sure not without it's issues, just like anywhere else, but let's not focus on the good bits! Never the good bits! How sad and depressed those little lives must be not to want a safer area, an area of prolonged, prolific drug use, dark corners and nefarious activity to be opened up and made safer just because they may --may-- not be able to park after 10pm. Given the choice between minimising those issues or having to park a little further up the road, I know what I'd back... Seems people have forgotten that a young girl was murdered here not long ago because it was a poorly lit area that wasn't opened up. The murder happened there because it was dark and dodgy. You're **** right i
L back anything that can help, even a little, towards preventing that. Any sane person would, surely?
[quote][p][bold]MrPitiful[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Kiki1973[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Kiki1973[/bold] wrote: I'm all for improving the area. In fact, that's why I pay tax, so that the town I live in is pretty and safe and there are more outdoor spaces so that I can actually enjoy the town even more.[/p][/quote]5 down votes.. What, was I too positive for the whinge fest?![/p][/quote]Correct - you were too positive. Far too positive. That's not allowed on here. Bear in mind though alll those who come on here to whinge and moan about the council spending "their" money are likely to have: 1 - connections with the council by way of family being council employees, or 2 - They will have previously voted in the current council because financially, that is what suited them best at the last voting opportunity and/or they are too afraid to vote in anyone else. Keep reading these columns and keep contributing - the hypocracy and double-standards amongst some on here are as funny as the council itself.[/p][/quote]Cheers, Mr Pitiful! To be honest, the stick in the mud mentality that resides on the echo message boards is hilarious to me. Beautiful town, well maintained, sure not without it's issues, just like anywhere else, but let's not focus on the good bits! Never the good bits! How sad and depressed those little lives must be not to want a safer area, an area of prolonged, prolific drug use, dark corners and nefarious activity to be opened up and made safer just because they may --may-- not be able to park after 10pm. Given the choice between minimising those issues or having to park a little further up the road, I know what I'd back... Seems people have forgotten that a young girl was murdered here not long ago because it was a poorly lit area that wasn't opened up. The murder happened there because it was dark and dodgy. You're **** right i L back anything that can help, even a little, towards preventing that. Any sane person would, surely? Kiki1973
  • Score: 0

1:00am Wed 12 Feb 14

Just_Sayin' says...

speedy231278 wrote:
20mph and nighttime road closures? Why? Funny how the council haven't cared about the area for ages, but when their chums Morgan Sindall come along and build University buidings and residential dwellings around the common (all on what used to be car parks), 'in partnership with Bournemouth Council', they suddenly start tarting the place up!

Apart from more traffic congestion, what exactly will closing some of the roads achieve, apart from the odd near-miss with drunken students rolling out the bars and clubs at all hours?
More golden handshakes with taxpayers money!
[quote][p][bold]speedy231278[/bold] wrote: 20mph and nighttime road closures? Why? Funny how the council haven't cared about the area for ages, but when their chums Morgan Sindall come along and build University buidings and residential dwellings around the common (all on what used to be car parks), 'in partnership with Bournemouth Council', they suddenly start tarting the place up! Apart from more traffic congestion, what exactly will closing some of the roads achieve, apart from the odd near-miss with drunken students rolling out the bars and clubs at all hours?[/p][/quote]More golden handshakes with taxpayers money! Just_Sayin'
  • Score: -1

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