Temporary traveller site plan is submitted for Creekmoor as council seeks to "achieve delivery of scheme this summer”

Bournemouth Echo: Temporary traveller site plan is submitted for Creekmoor as council seeks to "achieve delivery of scheme this summer” Temporary traveller site plan is submitted for Creekmoor as council seeks to "achieve delivery of scheme this summer”

THE first planning application has been submitted for a controversial temporary stopping place for travellers at Creekmoor, Poole.

However, instead of going for the whole site at Marshes End, which can accommodate 27 pitches, the application is only for a part of it which will provide 12 pitches for travelling families and vehicles.

Borough of Poole says this is to “achieve delivery of the scheme this summer” at Safety Drive, next to the fire station.

And a second application for a site with four pitches off Broadstone Way, north of the B&Q car park, has yet to be submitted.

Residents are invited to comment on the proposal and the application is likely to be considered by the council’s planning committee on March 20.

There will be a display of the application at Creekmoor Library on February 13 and 14 between 10am and 4.30pm and on the 15th from 10am to 1pm.

“We are aware of concerns raised by local residents and would encourage everyone to come along to the drop-in sessions and see for themselves the proposals, and submit any comments about the planning application to the planning department,” said Peter Haikin, regulatory services manager, Borough of Poole.

The three Creekmoor councillors opposed the plans at cabinet and full council and residents have raised worries with them about being able to have their say.

“Residents will be attending as objectors to address the planning committee,” said Cllr Judy Butt.

“However, they have raised their concern that under the planning committee constitution all objectors only have four minutes to collectively speak, which they feel is not long enough to explain all the issues in such a publicly important application.”

The full application – APP/ 14/00123/F – can be viewed online at boroughofpoole.com.

If approved, the site would operate between Good Friday and September 14 and travellers would not be directed to it after September 1.

A residents’ meeting is due to be held at Creekmoor Community Centre on Saturday, March 1, at 5pm to which MP Robert Syms, Police and Crime Commissioner Martyn Underhill and a representative of Dorset Police have been invited.

  • POLICE and Crime Commissioner Martyn Underhill is backing Poole council’s moves to establish temporary transit sites for travellers this summer.

He has spoken in favour of planning applications for sites at Marshes End, Creekmoor and on land north of the B&Q car park at Broadstone Way.

And he said a similar site set up by Dorset County Council in advance of the Dorset Steam Fair last year proved to be a success.

This year, Dorset County Council will seek planning permission for a five-year, temporary site at Piddlehinton.

Mr Underhill has now pledged to attend planning application hearings in both Poole and Dorset to voice his support for establishing the sites.

He said: “Without an appropriate site to move unauthorised camps on to, the police are acting with one arm tied behind their backs.

“Unless an alternative site exists the police cannot use their powers to move the travellers on.

“The traveller issue has become like Groundhog Day – every year they have nowhere to go so move to unauthorised sites.

“I will support any local authority that is trying to find a way to end last year’s stand-off and, along the way, increase police powers to deal with any unauthorised sites.”

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4:14pm Mon 3 Feb 14

Huey says...

Stopping place for travellers? Try the Travelodge perhaps?
Stopping place for travellers? Try the Travelodge perhaps? Huey
  • Score: 21

4:22pm Mon 3 Feb 14

DorsetFerret says...

One week from a council meeting to a planning application has to be a record. Who will sit on the committee that will agree this???
One week from a council meeting to a planning application has to be a record. Who will sit on the committee that will agree this??? DorsetFerret
  • Score: 23

4:24pm Mon 3 Feb 14

60plus says...

Why can't they use Tower Park all the drains must be in or did they trash that as well.
Why can't they use Tower Park all the drains must be in or did they trash that as well. 60plus
  • Score: 18

4:33pm Mon 3 Feb 14

speedy231278 says...

Four minutes for public objections? They really don't want to be told no, do they?
Four minutes for public objections? They really don't want to be told no, do they? speedy231278
  • Score: 23

4:36pm Mon 3 Feb 14

fireflier says...

Space for only 12 vans...Oh well.. all you other avn occupiers back to an illegal camp on some local Rec then!!!
Space for only 12 vans...Oh well.. all you other avn occupiers back to an illegal camp on some local Rec then!!! fireflier
  • Score: 14

5:00pm Mon 3 Feb 14

DorsetFerret says...

Fear not, this application has the wholehearted support of our Police Commissioner, that makes be feel so much better. ( Well, it has to be better than anywhere around Poole Bay doesn't it ?)
Fear not, this application has the wholehearted support of our Police Commissioner, that makes be feel so much better. ( Well, it has to be better than anywhere around Poole Bay doesn't it ?) DorsetFerret
  • Score: 8

5:08pm Mon 3 Feb 14

i have heard it all now says...

I am pleased to see the Council will get this actioned in double quick time.I wish they were this fast in my own applications.

Don't forget those listed below have voted for the sites.See them at the Ballot box,General and Local Elections.
Elaine Atkinson (C), Mike Brooke (LD), David Brown (LD), Brian Clements (LD), Jo Clements (LD), Sandra Cox (LD), Xena Dion (C), Phil Eades (LD), Phil Goodall (LD), Roy Godfrey (LD), Jennie Hodges (LD), Marion Le Poidevin (LD), Chris Matthews (LD), Charles Meachin (LD), Sandra Moore (LD), Ron Parker (C), Vikki Slade (LD), Neil Sorton (C), Ann Stribley (C), Tony Trent (LD), Mike White (C), Lindsay Wilson (LD), Graham Wilson (LD), Tony Woodcock (C
I am pleased to see the Council will get this actioned in double quick time.I wish they were this fast in my own applications. Don't forget those listed below have voted for the sites.See them at the Ballot box,General and Local Elections. Elaine Atkinson (C), Mike Brooke (LD), David Brown (LD), Brian Clements (LD), Jo Clements (LD), Sandra Cox (LD), Xena Dion (C), Phil Eades (LD), Phil Goodall (LD), Roy Godfrey (LD), Jennie Hodges (LD), Marion Le Poidevin (LD), Chris Matthews (LD), Charles Meachin (LD), Sandra Moore (LD), Ron Parker (C), Vikki Slade (LD), Neil Sorton (C), Ann Stribley (C), Tony Trent (LD), Mike White (C), Lindsay Wilson (LD), Graham Wilson (LD), Tony Woodcock (C i have heard it all now
  • Score: 15

5:09pm Mon 3 Feb 14

BIGTONE says...

So what happens if they turn up between September-March?

As you were......
So what happens if they turn up between September-March? As you were...... BIGTONE
  • Score: 9

5:10pm Mon 3 Feb 14

pete woodley says...

Now wait for all the would be councillors to get on here with their expert knowledge,and superiority.Petition
s here ,petitions there,protest marches,banners,post
ers,all over the area,more meetings,more paper work for the council,more expenses,all to come out of the rates.Nobody did much about it before but have been stirred up by political agitators,and some glory hunters, some with ambitions,some with interests ?.
Now wait for all the would be councillors to get on here with their expert knowledge,and superiority.Petition s here ,petitions there,protest marches,banners,post ers,all over the area,more meetings,more paper work for the council,more expenses,all to come out of the rates.Nobody did much about it before but have been stirred up by political agitators,and some glory hunters, some with ambitions,some with interests ?. pete woodley
  • Score: -14

5:19pm Mon 3 Feb 14

mikeymagic says...

So they get 12 free pitches. When setting up will they have to give a deposit to ensure they leave the site in the same condition they found it? I think if this was the condition a few more sites might be made available.
So they get 12 free pitches. When setting up will they have to give a deposit to ensure they leave the site in the same condition they found it? I think if this was the condition a few more sites might be made available. mikeymagic
  • Score: 17

5:35pm Mon 3 Feb 14

muscliffman says...

The really interesting bit - after this site planning decision is doubtless ratified - will arrive next summer. Because the 'travellers' will most probably ignore the dedicated site/s and pitch up wherever they please as usual, then Poole's residents will see their Police and the Council Authorities tested for what they really are. We shall all certainly be watching.
The really interesting bit - after this site planning decision is doubtless ratified - will arrive next summer. Because the 'travellers' will most probably ignore the dedicated site/s and pitch up wherever they please as usual, then Poole's residents will see their Police and the Council Authorities tested for what they really are. We shall all certainly be watching. muscliffman
  • Score: 13

5:55pm Mon 3 Feb 14

arthur1948 says...

creek more....Pooles Kinson.....dump everything there...
creek more....Pooles Kinson.....dump everything there... arthur1948
  • Score: -2

5:59pm Mon 3 Feb 14

HRH of Boscombe says...

mikeymagic wrote:
So they get 12 free pitches. When setting up will they have to give a deposit to ensure they leave the site in the same condition they found it? I think if this was the condition a few more sites might be made available.
I hope the council just leaves any mess for the next lot who arrive. They might start to see why they're never welcome.
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The councils need to start working together to issue, pursue and enforce all parking and littering fines
[quote][p][bold]mikeymagic[/bold] wrote: So they get 12 free pitches. When setting up will they have to give a deposit to ensure they leave the site in the same condition they found it? I think if this was the condition a few more sites might be made available.[/p][/quote]I hope the council just leaves any mess for the next lot who arrive. They might start to see why they're never welcome. . The councils need to start working together to issue, pursue and enforce all parking and littering fines HRH of Boscombe
  • Score: -7

6:01pm Mon 3 Feb 14

averyannoyedcreekmoorresident says...

Lost our house sale due to this as they didn't want to buy in Creekmoor any more once this was passed at last weeks emergency meeting.
Lost our house sale due to this as they didn't want to buy in Creekmoor any more once this was passed at last weeks emergency meeting. averyannoyedcreekmoorresident
  • Score: 6

6:25pm Mon 3 Feb 14

Carolyn43 says...

I hadn't heard of Safety Drive until it appeared on the planning application title. Was anyone else aware that there was a a Safety Drive in Creekmoor? When was this named? I assume in 2008 when the "temporary" fire station opened.
........
Has the council deliberately given the application the title "Land at Safety Drive, Poole, Dorset, BH17 7FR" so that residents can't find it by using obvious search terms? Sorry but that ploy has failed.
I hadn't heard of Safety Drive until it appeared on the planning application title. Was anyone else aware that there was a a Safety Drive in Creekmoor? When was this named? I assume in 2008 when the "temporary" fire station opened. ........ Has the council deliberately given the application the title "Land at Safety Drive, Poole, Dorset, BH17 7FR" so that residents can't find it by using obvious search terms? Sorry but that ploy has failed. Carolyn43
  • Score: 3

6:32pm Mon 3 Feb 14

ashleycross says...

DorsetFerret wrote:
Fear not, this application has the wholehearted support of our Police Commissioner, that makes be feel so much better. ( Well, it has to be better than anywhere around Poole Bay doesn't it ?)
We had them round Poole Bay area last summer thanks at Whitecliff
[quote][p][bold]DorsetFerret[/bold] wrote: Fear not, this application has the wholehearted support of our Police Commissioner, that makes be feel so much better. ( Well, it has to be better than anywhere around Poole Bay doesn't it ?)[/p][/quote]We had them round Poole Bay area last summer thanks at Whitecliff ashleycross
  • Score: 2

6:46pm Mon 3 Feb 14

goatty says...

Everyone start fly tipping on this site so they will home from home with all the rubbish when they arrive
Everyone start fly tipping on this site so they will home from home with all the rubbish when they arrive goatty
  • Score: 8

6:47pm Mon 3 Feb 14

nickynoodah says...

averyannoyedcreekmoo
rresident
wrote:
Lost our house sale due to this as they didn't want to buy in Creekmoor any more once this was passed at last weeks emergency meeting.
Sorry bout that averyannoyedcreekmoo
rresident
look on the brighter side it could be much worser
like near to no bath or Benefit street Winson Peter Green you know
I hope you get a new buyer you know
[quote][p][bold]averyannoyedcreekmoo rresident[/bold] wrote: Lost our house sale due to this as they didn't want to buy in Creekmoor any more once this was passed at last weeks emergency meeting.[/p][/quote]Sorry bout that averyannoyedcreekmoo rresident look on the brighter side it could be much worser like near to no bath or Benefit street Winson Peter Green you know I hope you get a new buyer you know nickynoodah
  • Score: -9

6:47pm Mon 3 Feb 14

Desperado says...

Perhaps we ought adopt a more Christian attitude towards these people.
Don't just think of them as parasites, invading our space, a drain on our economy, only thinking of themselves, of no use to society !
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Not sure if we can do that for the travellers though .
Perhaps we ought adopt a more Christian attitude towards these people. Don't just think of them as parasites, invading our space, a drain on our economy, only thinking of themselves, of no use to society ! . . . Not sure if we can do that for the travellers though . Desperado
  • Score: 5

6:53pm Mon 3 Feb 14

MMM444 says...

ashleycross wrote:
DorsetFerret wrote:
Fear not, this application has the wholehearted support of our Police Commissioner, that makes be feel so much better. ( Well, it has to be better than anywhere around Poole Bay doesn't it ?)
We had them round Poole Bay area last summer thanks at Whitecliff
And your have them this year round Poole Bay, they like the views, can you blame them, better than pitching next to some noisey by-pass, and not a pub in sight, see ya soon
[quote][p][bold]ashleycross[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DorsetFerret[/bold] wrote: Fear not, this application has the wholehearted support of our Police Commissioner, that makes be feel so much better. ( Well, it has to be better than anywhere around Poole Bay doesn't it ?)[/p][/quote]We had them round Poole Bay area last summer thanks at Whitecliff[/p][/quote]And your have them this year round Poole Bay, they like the views, can you blame them, better than pitching next to some noisey by-pass, and not a pub in sight, see ya soon MMM444
  • Score: 6

7:13pm Mon 3 Feb 14

apm1954 says...

our councillors our choice at election times bye bye con dems.
our councillors our choice at election times bye bye con dems. apm1954
  • Score: 8

7:36pm Mon 3 Feb 14

averyannoyedcreekmoorresident says...

nickynoodah wrote:
averyannoyedcreekmoo

rresident
wrote:
Lost our house sale due to this as they didn't want to buy in Creekmoor any more once this was passed at last weeks emergency meeting.
Sorry bout that averyannoyedcreekmoo

rresident
look on the brighter side it could be much worser
like near to no bath or Benefit street Winson Peter Green you know
I hope you get a new buyer you know
Our ex buyer got panicky about them coming to creekmoor but as we said to them we get them every year anyway and we are at the other end of creekmoor that they wouldnt interfere with us, always felt sorry for the ones near millfield and the fields that they take over and the farmers that have had to clear up after them.
[quote][p][bold]nickynoodah[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]averyannoyedcreekmoo rresident[/bold] wrote: Lost our house sale due to this as they didn't want to buy in Creekmoor any more once this was passed at last weeks emergency meeting.[/p][/quote]Sorry bout that averyannoyedcreekmoo rresident look on the brighter side it could be much worser like near to no bath or Benefit street Winson Peter Green you know I hope you get a new buyer you know[/p][/quote]Our ex buyer got panicky about them coming to creekmoor but as we said to them we get them every year anyway and we are at the other end of creekmoor that they wouldnt interfere with us, always felt sorry for the ones near millfield and the fields that they take over and the farmers that have had to clear up after them. averyannoyedcreekmoorresident
  • Score: 3

8:05pm Mon 3 Feb 14

Gracieloufreebush says...

Nice to see everybody skip past the part about the police having more powers over illegal camps if there is a transit site in the area.

If you would rather the site did not go ahead and the council keep forking out to get them moved each time they set up an illegal camp then please write to the council and tell them you are happy to fund it or for them to put up your council tax to cover these costs because as a poole resident I for one would rather my council tax got put to better use in the area. Or better still go tell the farmer in Upton you will pay his bill when they take over his land!

Nobody wants a site but quite frankly next to a dual carriageway is better than on the farm, football fields or whitecliff like last year.
Nice to see everybody skip past the part about the police having more powers over illegal camps if there is a transit site in the area. If you would rather the site did not go ahead and the council keep forking out to get them moved each time they set up an illegal camp then please write to the council and tell them you are happy to fund it or for them to put up your council tax to cover these costs because as a poole resident I for one would rather my council tax got put to better use in the area. Or better still go tell the farmer in Upton you will pay his bill when they take over his land! Nobody wants a site but quite frankly next to a dual carriageway is better than on the farm, football fields or whitecliff like last year. Gracieloufreebush
  • Score: -4

8:43pm Mon 3 Feb 14

d15 says...

What is wrong with using the park and ride as a temporary site?right next door to the proposed sit. Saves the cost of tam acing and is ready ready fenced and should have the surface drainage. Or is this to simple?
May not be in the right area but at least if this is where the councillor s want it then at least save some money!,
What is wrong with using the park and ride as a temporary site?right next door to the proposed sit. Saves the cost of tam acing and is ready ready fenced and should have the surface drainage. Or is this to simple? May not be in the right area but at least if this is where the councillor s want it then at least save some money!, d15
  • Score: -2

8:49pm Mon 3 Feb 14

alasdair1967 says...

d15 wrote:
What is wrong with using the park and ride as a temporary site?right next door to the proposed sit. Saves the cost of tam acing and is ready ready fenced and should have the surface drainage. Or is this to simple?
May not be in the right area but at least if this is where the councillor s want it then at least save some money!,
Exactly ,only ever used now at Christmas ,rest of the time closed
[quote][p][bold]d15[/bold] wrote: What is wrong with using the park and ride as a temporary site?right next door to the proposed sit. Saves the cost of tam acing and is ready ready fenced and should have the surface drainage. Or is this to simple? May not be in the right area but at least if this is where the councillor s want it then at least save some money!,[/p][/quote]Exactly ,only ever used now at Christmas ,rest of the time closed alasdair1967
  • Score: -5

9:02pm Mon 3 Feb 14

loftusrod says...

Loving the comment from Martin Underhill....'every year they have nowhere to go so move to unauthorised sites'.
Really?
How about suggesting to them they pay to stay at Caravan Club sites.
Or buy a house.
It's ridiculous to suggest they have 'nowhere to go'. They have plenty of options like the rest of society.
Loving the comment from Martin Underhill....'every year they have nowhere to go so move to unauthorised sites'. Really? How about suggesting to them they pay to stay at Caravan Club sites. Or buy a house. It's ridiculous to suggest they have 'nowhere to go'. They have plenty of options like the rest of society. loftusrod
  • Score: 10

9:02pm Mon 3 Feb 14

DorsetFerret says...

alasdair1967 wrote:
d15 wrote:
What is wrong with using the park and ride as a temporary site?right next door to the proposed sit. Saves the cost of tam acing and is ready ready fenced and should have the surface drainage. Or is this to simple?
May not be in the right area but at least if this is where the councillor s want it then at least save some money!,
Exactly ,only ever used now at Christmas ,rest of the time closed
The council (Liberals)l took a government cheque for this when the money was going. As things stand they can't change it's usage and nor should they, we already have enough of Poole's c**p to deal with.
[quote][p][bold]alasdair1967[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]d15[/bold] wrote: What is wrong with using the park and ride as a temporary site?right next door to the proposed sit. Saves the cost of tam acing and is ready ready fenced and should have the surface drainage. Or is this to simple? May not be in the right area but at least if this is where the councillor s want it then at least save some money!,[/p][/quote]Exactly ,only ever used now at Christmas ,rest of the time closed[/p][/quote]The council (Liberals)l took a government cheque for this when the money was going. As things stand they can't change it's usage and nor should they, we already have enough of Poole's c**p to deal with. DorsetFerret
  • Score: 11

9:03pm Mon 3 Feb 14

averyannoyedcreekmoorresident says...

alasdair1967 wrote:
d15 wrote:
What is wrong with using the park and ride as a temporary site?right next door to the proposed sit. Saves the cost of tam acing and is ready ready fenced and should have the surface drainage. Or is this to simple?
May not be in the right area but at least if this is where the councillor s want it then at least save some money!,
Exactly ,only ever used now at Christmas ,rest of the time closed
Them using the park and ride would be worse for creekmoor residents as it is closer to the houses, especially those that live in millfield. Using park and ride has been brought up several times but the law of the land that it is registered as will not allow it to be used for anything else than park and ride.
[quote][p][bold]alasdair1967[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]d15[/bold] wrote: What is wrong with using the park and ride as a temporary site?right next door to the proposed sit. Saves the cost of tam acing and is ready ready fenced and should have the surface drainage. Or is this to simple? May not be in the right area but at least if this is where the councillor s want it then at least save some money!,[/p][/quote]Exactly ,only ever used now at Christmas ,rest of the time closed[/p][/quote]Them using the park and ride would be worse for creekmoor residents as it is closer to the houses, especially those that live in millfield. Using park and ride has been brought up several times but the law of the land that it is registered as will not allow it to be used for anything else than park and ride. averyannoyedcreekmoorresident
  • Score: 4

9:06pm Mon 3 Feb 14

DorsetFerret says...

averyannoyedcreekmoo
rresident
wrote:
Lost our house sale due to this as they didn't want to buy in Creekmoor any more once this was passed at last weeks emergency meeting.
I would suggest if you have written confirmation of this and were near to exchange, you have a case against the council for the loss you have suffered. Worth checking.
[quote][p][bold]averyannoyedcreekmoo rresident[/bold] wrote: Lost our house sale due to this as they didn't want to buy in Creekmoor any more once this was passed at last weeks emergency meeting.[/p][/quote]I would suggest if you have written confirmation of this and were near to exchange, you have a case against the council for the loss you have suffered. Worth checking. DorsetFerret
  • Score: 8

9:16pm Mon 3 Feb 14

DorsetFerret says...

loftusrod wrote:
Loving the comment from Martin Underhill....'every year they have nowhere to go so move to unauthorised sites'.
Really?
How about suggesting to them they pay to stay at Caravan Club sites.
Or buy a house.
It's ridiculous to suggest they have 'nowhere to go'. They have plenty of options like the rest of society.
Interesting comment. Google - Irish Travellers and take a look at what they are doing in Limerick. A substantial plot of land has been purchased and six bedded houses are being built for the travelling community at an average cost of £400.000. They come here for 12-16 weeks and laugh all the way back to their banks. I have no problem with genuine Romany's or Tinkers but find this highly irritating.. Dare I say we are funding this.
[quote][p][bold]loftusrod[/bold] wrote: Loving the comment from Martin Underhill....'every year they have nowhere to go so move to unauthorised sites'. Really? How about suggesting to them they pay to stay at Caravan Club sites. Or buy a house. It's ridiculous to suggest they have 'nowhere to go'. They have plenty of options like the rest of society.[/p][/quote]Interesting comment. Google - Irish Travellers and take a look at what they are doing in Limerick. A substantial plot of land has been purchased and six bedded houses are being built for the travelling community at an average cost of £400.000. They come here for 12-16 weeks and laugh all the way back to their banks. I have no problem with genuine Romany's or Tinkers but find this highly irritating.. Dare I say we are funding this. DorsetFerret
  • Score: 11

10:03pm Mon 3 Feb 14

BIGTONE says...

d15 wrote:
What is wrong with using the park and ride as a temporary site?right next door to the proposed sit. Saves the cost of tam acing and is ready ready fenced and should have the surface drainage. Or is this to simple?
May not be in the right area but at least if this is where the councillor s want it then at least save some money!,
They have to get into town to do their "shopping"
[quote][p][bold]d15[/bold] wrote: What is wrong with using the park and ride as a temporary site?right next door to the proposed sit. Saves the cost of tam acing and is ready ready fenced and should have the surface drainage. Or is this to simple? May not be in the right area but at least if this is where the councillor s want it then at least save some money!,[/p][/quote]They have to get into town to do their "shopping" BIGTONE
  • Score: 4

10:34pm Mon 3 Feb 14

pete woodley says...

Stop taking the "p" bigtone.
Stop taking the "p" bigtone. pete woodley
  • Score: 3

10:59pm Mon 3 Feb 14

lorrai1011 says...

I'm going to fly tip and not pay my council tax I'm going through divorce with house sake great timing I think not.
I'm going to fly tip and not pay my council tax I'm going through divorce with house sake great timing I think not. lorrai1011
  • Score: 0

11:00pm Mon 3 Feb 14

lorrai1011 says...

i have heard it all now wrote:
I am pleased to see the Council will get this actioned in double quick time.I wish they were this fast in my own applications.

Don't forget those listed below have voted for the sites.See them at the Ballot box,General and Local Elections.
Elaine Atkinson (C), Mike Brooke (LD), David Brown (LD), Brian Clements (LD), Jo Clements (LD), Sandra Cox (LD), Xena Dion (C), Phil Eades (LD), Phil Goodall (LD), Roy Godfrey (LD), Jennie Hodges (LD), Marion Le Poidevin (LD), Chris Matthews (LD), Charles Meachin (LD), Sandra Moore (LD), Ron Parker (C), Vikki Slade (LD), Neil Sorton (C), Ann Stribley (C), Tony Trent (LD), Mike White (C), Lindsay Wilson (LD), Graham Wilson (LD), Tony Woodcock (C
Disgrace
[quote][p][bold]i have heard it all now[/bold] wrote: I am pleased to see the Council will get this actioned in double quick time.I wish they were this fast in my own applications. Don't forget those listed below have voted for the sites.See them at the Ballot box,General and Local Elections. Elaine Atkinson (C), Mike Brooke (LD), David Brown (LD), Brian Clements (LD), Jo Clements (LD), Sandra Cox (LD), Xena Dion (C), Phil Eades (LD), Phil Goodall (LD), Roy Godfrey (LD), Jennie Hodges (LD), Marion Le Poidevin (LD), Chris Matthews (LD), Charles Meachin (LD), Sandra Moore (LD), Ron Parker (C), Vikki Slade (LD), Neil Sorton (C), Ann Stribley (C), Tony Trent (LD), Mike White (C), Lindsay Wilson (LD), Graham Wilson (LD), Tony Woodcock (C[/p][/quote]Disgrace lorrai1011
  • Score: 0

11:04pm Mon 3 Feb 14

lorrai1011 says...

d15 wrote:
What is wrong with using the park and ride as a temporary site?right next door to the proposed sit. Saves the cost of tam acing and is ready ready fenced and should have the surface drainage. Or is this to simple?
May not be in the right area but at least if this is where the councillor s want it then at least save some money!,
No thanks
[quote][p][bold]d15[/bold] wrote: What is wrong with using the park and ride as a temporary site?right next door to the proposed sit. Saves the cost of tam acing and is ready ready fenced and should have the surface drainage. Or is this to simple? May not be in the right area but at least if this is where the councillor s want it then at least save some money!,[/p][/quote]No thanks lorrai1011
  • Score: -1

11:04pm Mon 3 Feb 14

Yankee1 says...

Surely the car park at the Poole Town Civic Centre would suffice?

The can use the Mayor's private loo.
Surely the car park at the Poole Town Civic Centre would suffice? The can use the Mayor's private loo. Yankee1
  • Score: 2

8:42am Tue 4 Feb 14

Carolyn43 says...

Gracieloufreebush wrote:
Nice to see everybody skip past the part about the police having more powers over illegal camps if there is a transit site in the area.

If you would rather the site did not go ahead and the council keep forking out to get them moved each time they set up an illegal camp then please write to the council and tell them you are happy to fund it or for them to put up your council tax to cover these costs because as a poole resident I for one would rather my council tax got put to better use in the area. Or better still go tell the farmer in Upton you will pay his bill when they take over his land!

Nobody wants a site but quite frankly next to a dual carriageway is better than on the farm, football fields or whitecliff like last year.
Gracieloufreebush said: "Nice to see everybody skip past the part about the police having more powers over illegal camps if there is a transit site in the area."
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MP Connor Burns has confirmed: "However, even if we had provision and that was full, the police would still not have the powers to act against another illegal camp." See today's article 'Fears Bournemouth could become a target for travellers as the only place in area without a transit site.'
[quote][p][bold]Gracieloufreebush[/bold] wrote: Nice to see everybody skip past the part about the police having more powers over illegal camps if there is a transit site in the area. If you would rather the site did not go ahead and the council keep forking out to get them moved each time they set up an illegal camp then please write to the council and tell them you are happy to fund it or for them to put up your council tax to cover these costs because as a poole resident I for one would rather my council tax got put to better use in the area. Or better still go tell the farmer in Upton you will pay his bill when they take over his land! Nobody wants a site but quite frankly next to a dual carriageway is better than on the farm, football fields or whitecliff like last year.[/p][/quote]Gracieloufreebush said: "Nice to see everybody skip past the part about the police having more powers over illegal camps if there is a transit site in the area." ....... MP Connor Burns has confirmed: "However, even if we had provision and that was full, the police would still not have the powers to act against another illegal camp." See today's article 'Fears Bournemouth could become a target for travellers as the only place in area without a transit site.' Carolyn43
  • Score: 1

12:19pm Tue 4 Feb 14

DorsetFerret says...

Is the mud starting to fly? You could make a TV comedy about this.

In the Yellow corner Councillor Eades, Mayor of Bournemouth, Branksome ward. In the Blue corner Councillor Butt, Creekmoor.

Councillor Eades.“ Hey, hang on a minute, I didn’t propose we looked for a traveller’s site in the first place, that was Councillor Butt’s idea back in October. She organised the whole debate. I only got involved when it looked as though it might end up in Branksome, (as per the consultants favoured choice). Got to do right by my constituents you know”!

Councillor Butt. “Yes OK, I arranged the meeting, it seemed like a good idea at the time, but only because Creekmoor was not one of the favoured options, you were the one that put that forward. Now I have to right for my constituents. Otherwise come the next elections in 2015"?

(Noticeably absent Councillor Elaine Atkinson leader of the council who voted in favour of Creekmoor)
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Could someone please tell me why Manning’s Heath is not under consideration, it seems the obvious place to put it? There are no residential areas to worry about, it’s already known to the travelling community and land is available. This question has been raised a number of times.
Is the mud starting to fly? You could make a TV comedy about this. In the Yellow corner Councillor Eades, Mayor of Bournemouth, Branksome ward. In the Blue corner Councillor Butt, Creekmoor. Councillor Eades.“ Hey, hang on a minute, I didn’t propose we looked for a traveller’s site in the first place, that was Councillor Butt’s idea back in October. She organised the whole debate. I only got involved when it looked as though it might end up in Branksome, (as per the consultants favoured choice). Got to do right by my constituents you know”! Councillor Butt. “Yes OK, I arranged the meeting, it seemed like a good idea at the time, but only because Creekmoor was not one of the favoured options, you were the one that put that forward. Now I have to right for my constituents. Otherwise come the next elections in 2015"? (Noticeably absent Councillor Elaine Atkinson leader of the council who voted in favour of Creekmoor) -------------------- -------------------- -------------------- -------------------- -------------------- - Could someone please tell me why Manning’s Heath is not under consideration, it seems the obvious place to put it? There are no residential areas to worry about, it’s already known to the travelling community and land is available. This question has been raised a number of times. DorsetFerret
  • Score: 6

5:28pm Tue 4 Feb 14

d15 says...

averyannoyedcreekmoo
rresident
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alasdair1967 wrote:
d15 wrote:
What is wrong with using the park and ride as a temporary site?right next door to the proposed sit. Saves the cost of tam acing and is ready ready fenced and should have the surface drainage. Or is this to simple?
May not be in the right area but at least if this is where the councillor s want it then at least save some money!,
Exactly ,only ever used now at Christmas ,rest of the time closed
Them using the park and ride would be worse for creekmoor residents as it is closer to the houses, especially those that live in millfield. Using park and ride has been brought up several times but the law of the land that it is registered as will not allow it to be used for anything else than park and ride.
So basically the park and ride is a worse than a white elephant, and the council is spending even more money on something of no value to the locals. Will they really want to stay next to the dual carriage way?
[quote][p][bold]averyannoyedcreekmoo rresident[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alasdair1967[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]d15[/bold] wrote: What is wrong with using the park and ride as a temporary site?right next door to the proposed sit. Saves the cost of tam acing and is ready ready fenced and should have the surface drainage. Or is this to simple? May not be in the right area but at least if this is where the councillor s want it then at least save some money!,[/p][/quote]Exactly ,only ever used now at Christmas ,rest of the time closed[/p][/quote]Them using the park and ride would be worse for creekmoor residents as it is closer to the houses, especially those that live in millfield. Using park and ride has been brought up several times but the law of the land that it is registered as will not allow it to be used for anything else than park and ride.[/p][/quote]So basically the park and ride is a worse than a white elephant, and the council is spending even more money on something of no value to the locals. Will they really want to stay next to the dual carriage way? d15
  • Score: 1

8:30pm Tue 4 Feb 14

carrrob says...

It will end up just like mannings heath trashed and all the fixtures and fittings stolen at least the fireman wont have far to go to put out the numerous bonfires !
It will end up just like mannings heath trashed and all the fixtures and fittings stolen at least the fireman wont have far to go to put out the numerous bonfires ! carrrob
  • Score: 1

11:17am Wed 5 Feb 14

DorsetFerret says...

DorsetFerret wrote:
Is the mud starting to fly? You could make a TV comedy about this.

In the Yellow corner Councillor Eades, Mayor of Bournemouth, Branksome ward. In the Blue corner Councillor Butt, Creekmoor.

Councillor Eades.“ Hey, hang on a minute, I didn’t propose we looked for a traveller’s site in the first place, that was Councillor Butt’s idea back in October. She organised the whole debate. I only got involved when it looked as though it might end up in Branksome, (as per the consultants favoured choice). Got to do right by my constituents you know”!

Councillor Butt. “Yes OK, I arranged the meeting, it seemed like a good idea at the time, but only because Creekmoor was not one of the favoured options, you were the one that put that forward. Now I have to right for my constituents. Otherwise come the next elections in 2015"?

(Noticeably absent Councillor Elaine Atkinson leader of the council who voted in favour of Creekmoor)
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Could someone please tell me why Manning’s Heath is not under consideration, it seems the obvious place to put it? There are no residential areas to worry about, it’s already known to the travelling community and land is available. This question has been raised a number of times.
Must have had a bad day yesterday. councillor Eades is of course the Mayor of Poole. My apologies for any offence caused to Bournemouth.
[quote][p][bold]DorsetFerret[/bold] wrote: Is the mud starting to fly? You could make a TV comedy about this. In the Yellow corner Councillor Eades, Mayor of Bournemouth, Branksome ward. In the Blue corner Councillor Butt, Creekmoor. Councillor Eades.“ Hey, hang on a minute, I didn’t propose we looked for a traveller’s site in the first place, that was Councillor Butt’s idea back in October. She organised the whole debate. I only got involved when it looked as though it might end up in Branksome, (as per the consultants favoured choice). Got to do right by my constituents you know”! Councillor Butt. “Yes OK, I arranged the meeting, it seemed like a good idea at the time, but only because Creekmoor was not one of the favoured options, you were the one that put that forward. Now I have to right for my constituents. Otherwise come the next elections in 2015"? (Noticeably absent Councillor Elaine Atkinson leader of the council who voted in favour of Creekmoor) -------------------- -------------------- -------------------- -------------------- -------------------- - Could someone please tell me why Manning’s Heath is not under consideration, it seems the obvious place to put it? There are no residential areas to worry about, it’s already known to the travelling community and land is available. This question has been raised a number of times.[/p][/quote]Must have had a bad day yesterday. councillor Eades is of course the Mayor of Poole. My apologies for any offence caused to Bournemouth. DorsetFerret
  • Score: 2

5:21pm Wed 5 Feb 14

C McCleary says...

In 2002 the Republic of Ireland passed a law making camping on land criminal trespass effectively evicting their gypsy population who migrated to England. As both UK and Republic of Ireland are both signatories yo the EU I don't see why the EU has permitted a country to effectively evict thousands of its poorest citizens. I have made an e-petition asking the British government to challenge the Irish legislation. The petition is epetitions.direct.go
v.uk/petitions59307 Challenge Republic of Ireland land trespass law 2002
In 2002 the Republic of Ireland passed a law making camping on land criminal trespass effectively evicting their gypsy population who migrated to England. As both UK and Republic of Ireland are both signatories yo the EU I don't see why the EU has permitted a country to effectively evict thousands of its poorest citizens. I have made an e-petition asking the British government to challenge the Irish legislation. The petition is epetitions.direct.go v.uk/petitions59307 Challenge Republic of Ireland land trespass law 2002 C McCleary
  • Score: 5

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