Company boss goes to Romania to fill jobs 'locals don't want'

Bournemouth Echo: CAN’T GET THE STAFF: Jason Harris, director of IMS Group in Ringwood CAN’T GET THE STAFF: Jason Harris, director of IMS Group in Ringwood

A COMPANY boss plans to travel to Romania to fill jobs which he says local people don’t want.

His comments follow the political row about the lifting of the last curbs on Romanians and Bulgarians seeking work in the UK.

Jason Harris, director of the Ringwood-based IMS Group, says small and medium-sized firms are struggling to fill vacancies.

He said: “It’s unbelievable, with 2.3million unemployed in the UK, of which 970,000 are young unemployed, that I, like other small business owners, am having to look to Eastern Europe to fill vacancies that the UK jobseeker does not seem to want.”

He said he had advertised positions in telesales and marketing in January but had only one applicant.

He blamed the internet and recruitment agencies for much of the problem, saying many job-seekers “just send a CV to a recruitment agency and wait for the phone to ring”.

He said: “The problem is for many of these agencies it’s often more lucrative to look after larger employers as that is where a majority of their income is generated.”

He added: “It’s a great shame when you have a position in a company, opening the door to a great career and a role that pays above the minimum wage and no one applies.

“What do you have to do to obtain new staff?”

Workers from Bulgaria and Romania, which joined the EU in 2007, had faced restrictions on the kind of work they could do in the UK, but those transitional arrangements ended on January 1.

David Cameron has said the numbers from those countries arriving in the UK since January 1 seemed to be at “a reasonable level”.

However, some Conservative MPs want the government’s current Immigration Bill to be amended to keep controls in place until 2018.

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7:06am Mon 3 Feb 14

sarahinpoole says...

Was the vacancy only advertised through a recruitment agency? I work in the creative industry and personally avoid using agencies as they just send anyone to get the their commission, have a poor level of understanding of the unique personalities in a creative environment and (when the shoe was on the other foot) had no idea of the correct vacancies to put me up for. I agree only one applicant is startling, but perhaps the job could be advertised in other ways in the UK first?
Was the vacancy only advertised through a recruitment agency? I work in the creative industry and personally avoid using agencies as they just send anyone to get the their commission, have a poor level of understanding of the unique personalities in a creative environment and (when the shoe was on the other foot) had no idea of the correct vacancies to put me up for. I agree only one applicant is startling, but perhaps the job could be advertised in other ways in the UK first? sarahinpoole
  • Score: 34

7:07am Mon 3 Feb 14

downmoor.ch63 says...

SINCE WHEN DID LOCAL COSERVATIVE MPS, OR FOR THAT MATTER COUNCELLORS ,EVER LOOK AFTER YOU IN BOURNEMOUTH, WAKE UP BOURNEMOUTH!, BOURNEMOUTH WAS ONCE A BEAUTIFUL HEALTHY PLACE TO LIVE IN, AND NOW, TOWN PLANNING, BOOZE, AND DRUGS ARE TURNING IT INTO A BLACKPOOL.
SINCE WHEN DID LOCAL COSERVATIVE MPS, OR FOR THAT MATTER COUNCELLORS ,EVER LOOK AFTER YOU IN BOURNEMOUTH, WAKE UP BOURNEMOUTH!, BOURNEMOUTH WAS ONCE A BEAUTIFUL HEALTHY PLACE TO LIVE IN, AND NOW, TOWN PLANNING, BOOZE, AND DRUGS ARE TURNING IT INTO A BLACKPOOL. downmoor.ch63
  • Score: 31

7:31am Mon 3 Feb 14

paulinejanet says...

try advertising locally and not using agencies so many young people are looking for jobs unless you are going to pay the eastern Europeans less than the minimum wage which I believe agencies are allowed to do
try advertising locally and not using agencies so many young people are looking for jobs unless you are going to pay the eastern Europeans less than the minimum wage which I believe agencies are allowed to do paulinejanet
  • Score: 41

7:35am Mon 3 Feb 14

billy bumble says...

mmmmm

They may be more to this than meets the eye
mmmmm They may be more to this than meets the eye billy bumble
  • Score: 43

7:42am Mon 3 Feb 14

politicaltrainspotter says...

So what he is saying is that Job Centre Plus is not doing their job. and it must be that poorly paid that even the Polish don't want it.

Free publicity that all your after and i agree with the above poster that they'res is more to this than that.
So what he is saying is that Job Centre Plus is not doing their job. and it must be that poorly paid that even the Polish don't want it. Free publicity that all your after and i agree with the above poster that they'res is more to this than that. politicaltrainspotter
  • Score: 47

7:46am Mon 3 Feb 14

Lord Spring says...

Manufacturing is what is required not service industries , anyhow what is he trying sale. BH Life.
Manufacturing is what is required not service industries , anyhow what is he trying sale. BH Life. Lord Spring
  • Score: 10

7:46am Mon 3 Feb 14

yet_another_one says...

I quickly discovered most of the 'local' people employed by my company appeared to be interested only in what was in their pay packet at the end of the week rather than looking to contribute to the long term stability of the business and security of the positions they occupied.
We offered attractive pay and conditions but it had to be earned. It may not be a surprise to many but businesses are not charitable organisations, they exist to make profits which are then passed on to employees in salaries and to fund attractive conditions for their working environment.
Employment agencies charge silly money for their services and I found the support provided was not commensurate (a word often used by them) with quality of service provided and/or quality of candidates put forward by them. Quite often, it became obvious they simply did not understand what their clients were looking for.
We placed advertisements in the local press and that also proved to be a waste of space, time and money.
We even tried to recruit through the Job Centre and I have to say the quality of applicants from this source was worse as it became obvious they were encouraging applications for positions posted throughout their network from people who were, let’s say, totally unsuitable. I often wondered if this was done to manipulate statistics to justify their performance, policies/decisions made by them.
Truly, a scandalous state of affairs.
Maybe, the image of those who are grossly overpaid or the ‘wannabe’ culture is a problem in society that has been created with most not having an adequate skill set or work ethic to justify their expectations.
Time to wake up and smell the coffee - our workforce is in danger of missing what opportunities are available to them for being too lazy.
I quickly discovered most of the 'local' people employed by my company appeared to be interested only in what was in their pay packet at the end of the week rather than looking to contribute to the long term stability of the business and security of the positions they occupied. We offered attractive pay and conditions but it had to be earned. It may not be a surprise to many but businesses are not charitable organisations, they exist to make profits which are then passed on to employees in salaries and to fund attractive conditions for their working environment. Employment agencies charge silly money for their services and I found the support provided was not commensurate (a word often used by them) with quality of service provided and/or quality of candidates put forward by them. Quite often, it became obvious they simply did not understand what their clients were looking for. We placed advertisements in the local press and that also proved to be a waste of space, time and money. We even tried to recruit through the Job Centre and I have to say the quality of applicants from this source was worse as it became obvious they were encouraging applications for positions posted throughout their network from people who were, let’s say, totally unsuitable. I often wondered if this was done to manipulate statistics to justify their performance, policies/decisions made by them. Truly, a scandalous state of affairs. Maybe, the image of those who are grossly overpaid or the ‘wannabe’ culture is a problem in society that has been created with most not having an adequate skill set or work ethic to justify their expectations. Time to wake up and smell the coffee - our workforce is in danger of missing what opportunities are available to them for being too lazy. yet_another_one
  • Score: -16

7:53am Mon 3 Feb 14

cheeriedriteup says...

Well that storey worked then, loads of applicants now I'm sure
Well that storey worked then, loads of applicants now I'm sure cheeriedriteup
  • Score: 3

7:55am Mon 3 Feb 14

cheeriedriteup says...

Maybe a ' recruitment ' section on your web page would do the trick! Come on it isn't Rocket science .
Maybe a ' recruitment ' section on your web page would do the trick! Come on it isn't Rocket science . cheeriedriteup
  • Score: 22

8:09am Mon 3 Feb 14

afcb-mark says...

He's gonet to the Echo with his sob story, did he go to the Echo and pay for an advert in the job section.
He's gonet to the Echo with his sob story, did he go to the Echo and pay for an advert in the job section. afcb-mark
  • Score: 45

8:10am Mon 3 Feb 14

afcb-mark says...

He's gone to the Echo with his sob story, did he go to the Echo and pay for an advert in the job section.
He's gone to the Echo with his sob story, did he go to the Echo and pay for an advert in the job section. afcb-mark
  • Score: 25

8:15am Mon 3 Feb 14

Very Old Man says...

Try simple maths:
Look at the wages paid.
Look at the rents, council tax and general cost of living in this area.
Deduct the second from the first.
There is your answer.
Try simple maths: Look at the wages paid. Look at the rents, council tax and general cost of living in this area. Deduct the second from the first. There is your answer. Very Old Man
  • Score: 44

8:15am Mon 3 Feb 14

MrPitiful says...

After much digging, I found one of this guy's job vacancies advertised here -

https://www.facebook
.com/lifebeginsshow/
posts/60806782593263
6

To be fair, the job sounds pretty good on paper, however, I think I may have the answer to where is problem lies in attracting applicants.

He is offering a starting salary of £16k/yr. This is around average for this type of role. The only problem is the location. He is based out in Ringwood whereas the vast majority of the local folk who would fill this type of job live in Bournemouth/Poole.

With this in mind, why would a Bournemouth/Poole applicant go to the time and expense of lumping up & down the A338 every day for a £16k salary when there are similar types of positions closer to home offering similar ( or better ) pay and conditions>

It is also one of those roles where if you have a bad month, your commission drops and these days people need the security of a guaranteed level of wage. This role is basically selling advertising space to businesses which is a competitive market and also a struggling one, with businesses cutting back on advertising etc.

Rather than hopping over to Romania to attract employees, I would suggest he invests more of his cash into attracting more local applicants by way of salary, location etc - open an office in Bournemouth where the potential applicants live!
After much digging, I found one of this guy's job vacancies advertised here - https://www.facebook .com/lifebeginsshow/ posts/60806782593263 6 To be fair, the job sounds pretty good on paper, however, I think I may have the answer to where is problem lies in attracting applicants. He is offering a starting salary of £16k/yr. This is around average for this type of role. The only problem is the location. He is based out in Ringwood whereas the vast majority of the local folk who would fill this type of job live in Bournemouth/Poole. With this in mind, why would a Bournemouth/Poole applicant go to the time and expense of lumping up & down the A338 every day for a £16k salary when there are similar types of positions closer to home offering similar ( or better ) pay and conditions> It is also one of those roles where if you have a bad month, your commission drops and these days people need the security of a guaranteed level of wage. This role is basically selling advertising space to businesses which is a competitive market and also a struggling one, with businesses cutting back on advertising etc. Rather than hopping over to Romania to attract employees, I would suggest he invests more of his cash into attracting more local applicants by way of salary, location etc - open an office in Bournemouth where the potential applicants live! MrPitiful
  • Score: 81

8:23am Mon 3 Feb 14

MrPitiful says...

Sorry but the above link doesnt seem to work but the vacancy is on his facebook site which you can access via his company website.

Mr Harris - good vacancy but you have to make it more viable to any potential applicants I'm afraid.
Sorry but the above link doesnt seem to work but the vacancy is on his facebook site which you can access via his company website. Mr Harris - good vacancy but you have to make it more viable to any potential applicants I'm afraid. MrPitiful
  • Score: 25

8:28am Mon 3 Feb 14

yet_another_one says...

Lord Spring wrote:
Manufacturing is what is required not service industries , anyhow what is he trying sale. BH Life.
I once heard a leading politician say economies based on what a country manufactures.
I believe we have a thriving service sector but profits are affected as competition is so severe with business often won on price and not quality.
Here's a very true saying from Benjamin Franklin, quote "the bitterness of poor quality remains long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten". This means you only get what you pay for - how true is that.
Shame, particularly on the Tories who have been implicit in selling our manufacturing industry down the river. Birmingham, our second largest city, is now an employment blackspot.
Remember Norman Tebbutt? The streets of Boscombe were and remain largely infested with undesirables as a result of his "get on yer bike" saying.
OK, our Trades Union problems had to be addressed but surely not at the cost of killing communities.
[quote][p][bold]Lord Spring[/bold] wrote: Manufacturing is what is required not service industries , anyhow what is he trying sale. BH Life.[/p][/quote]I once heard a leading politician say economies based on what a country manufactures. I believe we have a thriving service sector but profits are affected as competition is so severe with business often won on price and not quality. Here's a very true saying from Benjamin Franklin, quote "the bitterness of poor quality remains long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten". This means you only get what you pay for - how true is that. Shame, particularly on the Tories who have been implicit in selling our manufacturing industry down the river. Birmingham, our second largest city, is now an employment blackspot. Remember Norman Tebbutt? The streets of Boscombe were and remain largely infested with undesirables as a result of his "get on yer bike" saying. OK, our Trades Union problems had to be addressed but surely not at the cost of killing communities. yet_another_one
  • Score: 8

8:45am Mon 3 Feb 14

bsjc1234 says...

I heard this guy on Radio Solent last Wednesday and he did sound very genuine, I then saw the Southampton Echo ran with the story on Thursday, I have been looking for work and as a result I did apply for this position, ok I do not know if I will be shortlisted for the role but on looking at their website and asking about the role I did find out it is £16k basic plus uncapped commission with a minimum ote of £20k so that suddenly makes it more attractive in my book. I found them here http://www.ims-group
.co.uk/
I heard this guy on Radio Solent last Wednesday and he did sound very genuine, I then saw the Southampton Echo ran with the story on Thursday, I have been looking for work and as a result I did apply for this position, ok I do not know if I will be shortlisted for the role but on looking at their website and asking about the role I did find out it is £16k basic plus uncapped commission with a minimum ote of £20k so that suddenly makes it more attractive in my book. I found them here http://www.ims-group .co.uk/ bsjc1234
  • Score: 16

9:36am Mon 3 Feb 14

rich53 says...

Or is another way of cutting company cost by bringing in cheap labour from abroad!!
Or is another way of cutting company cost by bringing in cheap labour from abroad!! rich53
  • Score: 19

10:04am Mon 3 Feb 14

justme20092009 says...

total rubbish,they going there for cheap labour,my son applys for at least 5 jobs a day in local area and most dont even reply
total rubbish,they going there for cheap labour,my son applys for at least 5 jobs a day in local area and most dont even reply justme20092009
  • Score: 28

10:26am Mon 3 Feb 14

live-and-let-live says...

i remember when the Echo had a very effective situations vacant page, or two. it was the first and best place to find a job. Poole people could always get work at millers once. few will go there now because its full of eastern europeans. and i can truthfully say, its not very pleasant to spend your working day surrounded with non English speakers. especially as we are in our own country. another problem is benefits dependency. its hard to let go of that lifeline and stand alone after a year or so on benefits. if businesses made more effort to recruit british people, if benefits were changed back to being a short term helpline and not a lifestyle then maybe our unemployed people could get back to work.
i remember when the Echo had a very effective situations vacant page, or two. it was the first and best place to find a job. Poole people could always get work at millers once. few will go there now because its full of eastern europeans. and i can truthfully say, its not very pleasant to spend your working day surrounded with non English speakers. especially as we are in our own country. another problem is benefits dependency. its hard to let go of that lifeline and stand alone after a year or so on benefits. if businesses made more effort to recruit british people, if benefits were changed back to being a short term helpline and not a lifestyle then maybe our unemployed people could get back to work. live-and-let-live
  • Score: 12

10:43am Mon 3 Feb 14

Adrian XX says...

cheeriedriteup wrote:
Maybe a ' recruitment ' section on your web page would do the trick! Come on it isn't Rocket science .
I don't think many people look for work on the websites of small local companies. I had never heard of IMS until today, so I certainly wouldn't be looking at their site.
[quote][p][bold]cheeriedriteup[/bold] wrote: Maybe a ' recruitment ' section on your web page would do the trick! Come on it isn't Rocket science .[/p][/quote]I don't think many people look for work on the websites of small local companies. I had never heard of IMS until today, so I certainly wouldn't be looking at their site. Adrian XX
  • Score: 15

10:46am Mon 3 Feb 14

delta3 says...

Whats the story here? I suggest the business owner book his flight now and hire and many East Europeans as needed. I wouldn't want do his advertised role due to most of the factors already covered by others on here. Also if he needs the free advertising he has generated over such a non-story then I don't think he is as busy as he suggests. Hello, I am from Romania, do you want to buy some magazine advertising space?
Whats the story here? I suggest the business owner book his flight now and hire and many East Europeans as needed. I wouldn't want do his advertised role due to most of the factors already covered by others on here. Also if he needs the free advertising he has generated over such a non-story then I don't think he is as busy as he suggests. Hello, I am from Romania, do you want to buy some magazine advertising space? delta3
  • Score: 21

10:47am Mon 3 Feb 14

Adrian XX says...

downmoor.ch63 wrote:
SINCE WHEN DID LOCAL COSERVATIVE MPS, OR FOR THAT MATTER COUNCELLORS ,EVER LOOK AFTER YOU IN BOURNEMOUTH, WAKE UP BOURNEMOUTH!, BOURNEMOUTH WAS ONCE A BEAUTIFUL HEALTHY PLACE TO LIVE IN, AND NOW, TOWN PLANNING, BOOZE, AND DRUGS ARE TURNING IT INTO A BLACKPOOL.
It is the locals boozing though and not the Eastern Europeans. And remember it was the labour government who lifted controls on the first block of Eastern European countries in 2004.
[quote][p][bold]downmoor.ch63[/bold] wrote: SINCE WHEN DID LOCAL COSERVATIVE MPS, OR FOR THAT MATTER COUNCELLORS ,EVER LOOK AFTER YOU IN BOURNEMOUTH, WAKE UP BOURNEMOUTH!, BOURNEMOUTH WAS ONCE A BEAUTIFUL HEALTHY PLACE TO LIVE IN, AND NOW, TOWN PLANNING, BOOZE, AND DRUGS ARE TURNING IT INTO A BLACKPOOL.[/p][/quote]It is the locals boozing though and not the Eastern Europeans. And remember it was the labour government who lifted controls on the first block of Eastern European countries in 2004. Adrian XX
  • Score: 5

10:47am Mon 3 Feb 14

Sir Beachy Head says...

If any Romanians ring me up I'll put the phone down.
If any Romanians ring me up I'll put the phone down. Sir Beachy Head
  • Score: 33

10:49am Mon 3 Feb 14

Adrian XX says...

rich53 wrote:
Or is another way of cutting company cost by bringing in cheap labour from abroad!!
It's no cheaper than the local labour.
[quote][p][bold]rich53[/bold] wrote: Or is another way of cutting company cost by bringing in cheap labour from abroad!![/p][/quote]It's no cheaper than the local labour. Adrian XX
  • Score: 2

11:01am Mon 3 Feb 14

jsdorset says...

Where else did this guy advertise? As a job advertised on your facebook page doesnt really cut it. As who would know to look there??? Even adding a page to your website wont get many responses as again who would know to look there?
Even his "News" page on his web site has nothing on it!! and to be fair the quality of content on his website is well quite basic shall we say!

Even when you search his websites tag line on google "creative communications & events company Ringwood" his only listing is about 6th and thats a linkedin listing so before he criticizes others who have applied to him. He maybe should get his own house in order as its a pretty poor effort by him seeing as he is essentially a marketing/advertisin
g company If he wants to attract professional staff he needs a professional image.
Where else did this guy advertise? As a job advertised on your facebook page doesnt really cut it. As who would know to look there??? Even adding a page to your website wont get many responses as again who would know to look there? Even his "News" page on his web site has nothing on it!! and to be fair the quality of content on his website is well quite basic shall we say! Even when you search his websites tag line on google "creative communications & events company Ringwood" his only listing is about 6th and thats a linkedin listing so before he criticizes others who have applied to him. He maybe should get his own house in order as its a pretty poor effort by him seeing as he is essentially a marketing/advertisin g company If he wants to attract professional staff he needs a professional image. jsdorset
  • Score: 18

11:14am Mon 3 Feb 14

muscliffman says...

With the very low level of wages paid in most Eastern European Countries their citizens will understandably be attracted to virtually any position in the UK offering the minimum wage and UK benefits - or using the 'agency' loophole even less.

Some people say the Socialist led EU super State agenda includes and fully intends this EU wide redistribution of wealth, unfortunately for the average native UK worker on anything above minimum wage this is already proving disastrous and far worse is likely to come. It's hardly 'rocket science' to see these folk may have a point!
With the very low level of wages paid in most Eastern European Countries their citizens will understandably be attracted to virtually any position in the UK offering the minimum wage and UK benefits - or using the 'agency' loophole even less. Some people say the Socialist led EU super State agenda includes and fully intends this EU wide redistribution of wealth, unfortunately for the average native UK worker on anything above minimum wage this is already proving disastrous and far worse is likely to come. It's hardly 'rocket science' to see these folk may have a point! muscliffman
  • Score: 5

11:46am Mon 3 Feb 14

speedy231278 says...

When you are constantly bombarded with annoying telesales calls at work , and at home, why would you be persuaded to get a job doing the same?

The building I work in has several call centres, and to be honest they are all full of young kids without anything between their ears. Perhaps all the muppets are employed in the centre of town, leaving none to go further afield to this place?
When you are constantly bombarded with annoying telesales calls at work , and at home, why would you be persuaded to get a job doing the same? The building I work in has several call centres, and to be honest they are all full of young kids without anything between their ears. Perhaps all the muppets are employed in the centre of town, leaving none to go further afield to this place? speedy231278
  • Score: 10

11:59am Mon 3 Feb 14

Rabbitman64 says...

The Telesales industry is well known for being unpleasant - low wages or commission only, staff removed quickly if targets are not hit and a stressful environment. I have worked in four telesales jobs in the past at Ideal Home Group, Ecohomes, Solar Fusion & Anglian Home Improvements and would not want to work in the industry again! Even if it meant that I had no job!
The Telesales industry is well known for being unpleasant - low wages or commission only, staff removed quickly if targets are not hit and a stressful environment. I have worked in four telesales jobs in the past at Ideal Home Group, Ecohomes, Solar Fusion & Anglian Home Improvements and would not want to work in the industry again! Even if it meant that I had no job! Rabbitman64
  • Score: 20

12:22pm Mon 3 Feb 14

John T says...

billy bumble wrote:
mmmmm

They may be more to this than meets the eye
Yes - an Echo Free AD for a marketing company.
[quote][p][bold]billy bumble[/bold] wrote: mmmmm They may be more to this than meets the eye[/p][/quote]Yes - an Echo Free AD for a marketing company. John T
  • Score: 13

12:42pm Mon 3 Feb 14

Redgolfer says...

downmoor.ch63 wrote:
SINCE WHEN DID LOCAL COSERVATIVE MPS, OR FOR THAT MATTER COUNCELLORS ,EVER LOOK AFTER YOU IN BOURNEMOUTH, WAKE UP BOURNEMOUTH!, BOURNEMOUTH WAS ONCE A BEAUTIFUL HEALTHY PLACE TO LIVE IN, AND NOW, TOWN PLANNING, BOOZE, AND DRUGS ARE TURNING IT INTO A BLACKPOOL.
READ THE STORY, ''RINGWOOD BASED'' before making comments like that !!!
[quote][p][bold]downmoor.ch63[/bold] wrote: SINCE WHEN DID LOCAL COSERVATIVE MPS, OR FOR THAT MATTER COUNCELLORS ,EVER LOOK AFTER YOU IN BOURNEMOUTH, WAKE UP BOURNEMOUTH!, BOURNEMOUTH WAS ONCE A BEAUTIFUL HEALTHY PLACE TO LIVE IN, AND NOW, TOWN PLANNING, BOOZE, AND DRUGS ARE TURNING IT INTO A BLACKPOOL.[/p][/quote]READ THE STORY, ''RINGWOOD BASED'' before making comments like that !!! Redgolfer
  • Score: 6

1:06pm Mon 3 Feb 14

BIGTONE says...

Sir Beachy Head wrote:
If any Romanians ring me up I'll put the phone down.
Haaaaaa how will you know?
They speak better English than most of our illiterate young generation.
[quote][p][bold]Sir Beachy Head[/bold] wrote: If any Romanians ring me up I'll put the phone down.[/p][/quote]Haaaaaa how will you know? They speak better English than most of our illiterate young generation. BIGTONE
  • Score: -5

1:22pm Mon 3 Feb 14

BournemouthMum says...

Telesales - I'd hardly call that a quality job with prospects. Even the larger companies have to recruit constantly as it's an industry with very high staff turnover simply because no one wants to do that job. Personally I'd rather sweep streets than work in telesales. It has to be the most hated job available.
Telesales - I'd hardly call that a quality job with prospects. Even the larger companies have to recruit constantly as it's an industry with very high staff turnover simply because no one wants to do that job. Personally I'd rather sweep streets than work in telesales. It has to be the most hated job available. BournemouthMum
  • Score: 18

1:46pm Mon 3 Feb 14

M0Z says...

I’ve reviewed all of the above links (they do work). I can understand why a recruiter might travel to Romania in search of a large quantity of cheap workers or a small quantity of scarce expertise. But this is just a single temporary vacancy in telesales during the run up to an event that starts in less than seven weeks. I’ve engaged such people myself – they’re called agency temps, it’s what they do. The money is too low for freelance contractors, but just about right for agency temps. Offering a non-permanent employment role with a probation period is no way to attract anyone – candidates won’t leave their current employer or come off benefits for that level of uncertainty. But it’s exactly what freelancers and agency temps choose to do (I’ve done both myself). There’s a sizeable telesales and call centre population in Bournemouth, plus some very good temping agencies – it should be easy to fill this role. Save the air fare and simply tap into the UK’s flexible workforce – it’s one of our few strengths.
I’ve reviewed all of the above links (they do work). I can understand why a recruiter might travel to Romania in search of a large quantity of cheap workers or a small quantity of scarce expertise. But this is just a single temporary vacancy in telesales during the run up to an event that starts in less than seven weeks. I’ve engaged such people myself – they’re called agency temps, it’s what they do. The money is too low for freelance contractors, but just about right for agency temps. Offering a non-permanent employment role with a probation period is no way to attract anyone – candidates won’t leave their current employer or come off benefits for that level of uncertainty. But it’s exactly what freelancers and agency temps choose to do (I’ve done both myself). There’s a sizeable telesales and call centre population in Bournemouth, plus some very good temping agencies – it should be easy to fill this role. Save the air fare and simply tap into the UK’s flexible workforce – it’s one of our few strengths. M0Z
  • Score: 11

2:07pm Mon 3 Feb 14

ruprecht says...

That is quite a generalisation of recruitment agencies! In my experience, using a good recruitment agency can be a very successful method of hiring. Of course one gets out what one puts in, so spending time meeting with a specialist recruitment consultant to understand your needs and company culture fully can reap dividends as opposed to simply asking for CVs to be emailed through at the drop of a hat.


The economy seems to be moving in a positive direction and good quality applicants will become more difficult to find. Many companies need to look at new ways of recruiting as well as bringing salary and benefits (not just financial but training, development and flexibility) up to date in order to attract the best talent.
That is quite a generalisation of recruitment agencies! In my experience, using a good recruitment agency can be a very successful method of hiring. Of course one gets out what one puts in, so spending time meeting with a specialist recruitment consultant to understand your needs and company culture fully can reap dividends as opposed to simply asking for CVs to be emailed through at the drop of a hat. The economy seems to be moving in a positive direction and good quality applicants will become more difficult to find. Many companies need to look at new ways of recruiting as well as bringing salary and benefits (not just financial but training, development and flexibility) up to date in order to attract the best talent. ruprecht
  • Score: -1

2:18pm Mon 3 Feb 14

BmthNewshound says...

Don't know why so many of you have given the thumbs down to the comment from "yet_another_one" but give the thumbs up to "MrPitiful" who suggests its unreasonable to expect people to travel from Bournemouth to Ringwood to work.
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I think this demonstrates the poor work ethic of so many British people who seem to think it is their birth right to be paid a high salary without putting in the effort. I suppose its just easier to sit at home wasting your life away and claiming benefits than getting off your backside and working for a living.
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Don't know why so many of you have given the thumbs down to the comment from "yet_another_one" but give the thumbs up to "MrPitiful" who suggests its unreasonable to expect people to travel from Bournemouth to Ringwood to work. . I think this demonstrates the poor work ethic of so many British people who seem to think it is their birth right to be paid a high salary without putting in the effort. I suppose its just easier to sit at home wasting your life away and claiming benefits than getting off your backside and working for a living. . BmthNewshound
  • Score: -5

2:36pm Mon 3 Feb 14

Rabbitman64 says...

BmthNewshound wrote:
Don't know why so many of you have given the thumbs down to the comment from "yet_another_on
e" but give the thumbs up to "MrPitiful" who suggests its unreasonable to expect people to travel from Bournemouth to Ringwood to work.
.
I think this demonstrates the poor work ethic of so many British people who seem to think it is their birth right to be paid a high salary without putting in the effort. I suppose its just easier to sit at home wasting your life away and claiming benefits than getting off your backside and working for a living.
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Many people do want to work in this country but can not find suitable work. Even having seven higher education qualifications, plus having worked in twenty different jobs has not meant that I have been able to find a job not to say a good one?
[quote][p][bold]BmthNewshound[/bold] wrote: Don't know why so many of you have given the thumbs down to the comment from "yet_another_on e" but give the thumbs up to "MrPitiful" who suggests its unreasonable to expect people to travel from Bournemouth to Ringwood to work. . I think this demonstrates the poor work ethic of so many British people who seem to think it is their birth right to be paid a high salary without putting in the effort. I suppose its just easier to sit at home wasting your life away and claiming benefits than getting off your backside and working for a living. .[/p][/quote]Many people do want to work in this country but can not find suitable work. Even having seven higher education qualifications, plus having worked in twenty different jobs has not meant that I have been able to find a job not to say a good one? Rabbitman64
  • Score: 7

2:56pm Mon 3 Feb 14

rozmister says...

BmthNewshound wrote:
Don't know why so many of you have given the thumbs down to the comment from "yet_another_on
e" but give the thumbs up to "MrPitiful" who suggests its unreasonable to expect people to travel from Bournemouth to Ringwood to work.
.
I think this demonstrates the poor work ethic of so many British people who seem to think it is their birth right to be paid a high salary without putting in the effort. I suppose its just easier to sit at home wasting your life away and claiming benefits than getting off your backside and working for a living.
.
Logically though a large chunk of their wage would be used up on travel and then out of the rest they have to pay ever soaring living costs. It's all very well saying people want something for nothing but people have to live. And I say that as someone whose barely been out of work since 13 and has done jobs all over the place! I'm a professional renting and I feel the squeeze so I sympathise with people who say ringwood is too far out for a low salary!
[quote][p][bold]BmthNewshound[/bold] wrote: Don't know why so many of you have given the thumbs down to the comment from "yet_another_on e" but give the thumbs up to "MrPitiful" who suggests its unreasonable to expect people to travel from Bournemouth to Ringwood to work. . I think this demonstrates the poor work ethic of so many British people who seem to think it is their birth right to be paid a high salary without putting in the effort. I suppose its just easier to sit at home wasting your life away and claiming benefits than getting off your backside and working for a living. .[/p][/quote]Logically though a large chunk of their wage would be used up on travel and then out of the rest they have to pay ever soaring living costs. It's all very well saying people want something for nothing but people have to live. And I say that as someone whose barely been out of work since 13 and has done jobs all over the place! I'm a professional renting and I feel the squeeze so I sympathise with people who say ringwood is too far out for a low salary! rozmister
  • Score: 5

3:01pm Mon 3 Feb 14

jsdorset says...

Just had another look at his website, as I had 5 minutes spare.
Laughably he professes his company to be able to create and design a dynamic web site using his "highly experienced team of designers" and "Once your web site is up and running, we can help you drive traffic to your site with search engine optimisation and e-mail marketing"

Well a few pointers Jason Harris a Linkedin listing doesn't show what you profess to be an area of your companies expertise does it? also your coloured "buttons" running down the left side of your web page don't work.
Also I cannot find your company details on your web site, I believe that
Companies in the UK must include certain regulatory information on their websites and in their email footers before 1 January 2007 or they will breach the Companies Act and risk a fine.

Every company should list its company registration number, place of registration, and registered office address on its website as a result of an update to the legislation of 1985. The information, which must be in legible characters, should also appear on order forms and in emails. Such information is already required on "business letters" but the duty is being extended to websites, order forms and electronic documents.

I also wonder what IMS Group PLC think about you plagiarizing their name??

Just by the above points in my humble opinion it looks like you need help with your company and you will probably be best spending your Romanian recruitment drive money in setting up your company professionally. As just a five minute perusal of your website would lead me to believe that I wouldn't touch your company with the proverbial barge pole. Have you even considered that is why you didn't have any applicants for your telesales job?
Also if you are going to go running to the press which puts your company under the spotlight you should really dot your i's and cross your t's. That is why their are professional PR companies out there.
Feel free to leave a comment and I would be happy to contact you and discuss these points with you. But I doubt you would want to pay a professionals hourly rate!
Just had another look at his website, as I had 5 minutes spare. Laughably he professes his company to be able to create and design a dynamic web site using his "highly experienced team of designers" and "Once your web site is up and running, we can help you drive traffic to your site with search engine optimisation and e-mail marketing" Well a few pointers Jason Harris a Linkedin listing doesn't show what you profess to be an area of your companies expertise does it? also your coloured "buttons" running down the left side of your web page don't work. Also I cannot find your company details on your web site, I believe that Companies in the UK must include certain regulatory information on their websites and in their email footers before 1 January 2007 or they will breach the Companies Act and risk a fine. Every company should list its company registration number, place of registration, and registered office address on its website as a result of an update to the legislation of 1985. The information, which must be in legible characters, should also appear on order forms and in emails. Such information is already required on "business letters" but the duty is being extended to websites, order forms and electronic documents. I also wonder what IMS Group PLC think about you plagiarizing their name?? Just by the above points in my humble opinion it looks like you need help with your company and you will probably be best spending your Romanian recruitment drive money in setting up your company professionally. As just a five minute perusal of your website would lead me to believe that I wouldn't touch your company with the proverbial barge pole. Have you even considered that is why you didn't have any applicants for your telesales job? Also if you are going to go running to the press which puts your company under the spotlight you should really dot your i's and cross your t's. That is why their are professional PR companies out there. Feel free to leave a comment and I would be happy to contact you and discuss these points with you. But I doubt you would want to pay a professionals hourly rate! jsdorset
  • Score: 15

3:09pm Mon 3 Feb 14

Mr Angry. says...

Pay people a decent wage and you may get more interest!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!
Pay people a decent wage and you may get more interest!!!!!!!!!!!! !!! Mr Angry.
  • Score: 11

3:10pm Mon 3 Feb 14

jsdorset says...

Oops sorry typo in my above post :- " That is why their are professional PR companies out there"
should read "That is why THERE are professional PR companies out there"

Before the grammar police come calling!
Oops sorry typo in my above post :- " That is why their are professional PR companies out there" should read "That is why THERE are professional PR companies out there" Before the grammar police come calling! jsdorset
  • Score: 5

3:21pm Mon 3 Feb 14

simcal says...

jsdorset wrote:
Just had another look at his website, as I had 5 minutes spare. Laughably he professes his company to be able to create and design a dynamic web site using his "highly experienced team of designers" and "Once your web site is up and running, we can help you drive traffic to your site with search engine optimisation and e-mail marketing" Well a few pointers Jason Harris a Linkedin listing doesn't show what you profess to be an area of your companies expertise does it? also your coloured "buttons" running down the left side of your web page don't work. Also I cannot find your company details on your web site, I believe that Companies in the UK must include certain regulatory information on their websites and in their email footers before 1 January 2007 or they will breach the Companies Act and risk a fine. Every company should list its company registration number, place of registration, and registered office address on its website as a result of an update to the legislation of 1985. The information, which must be in legible characters, should also appear on order forms and in emails. Such information is already required on "business letters" but the duty is being extended to websites, order forms and electronic documents. I also wonder what IMS Group PLC think about you plagiarizing their name?? Just by the above points in my humble opinion it looks like you need help with your company and you will probably be best spending your Romanian recruitment drive money in setting up your company professionally. As just a five minute perusal of your website would lead me to believe that I wouldn't touch your company with the proverbial barge pole. Have you even considered that is why you didn't have any applicants for your telesales job? Also if you are going to go running to the press which puts your company under the spotlight you should really dot your i's and cross your t's. That is why their are professional PR companies out there. Feel free to leave a comment and I would be happy to contact you and discuss these points with you. But I doubt you would want to pay a professionals hourly rate!
That sums it up for me. Let him import his Romanians. Probably manage 3 months then get full benefits.
[quote][p][bold]jsdorset[/bold] wrote: Just had another look at his website, as I had 5 minutes spare. Laughably he professes his company to be able to create and design a dynamic web site using his "highly experienced team of designers" and "Once your web site is up and running, we can help you drive traffic to your site with search engine optimisation and e-mail marketing" Well a few pointers Jason Harris a Linkedin listing doesn't show what you profess to be an area of your companies expertise does it? also your coloured "buttons" running down the left side of your web page don't work. Also I cannot find your company details on your web site, I believe that Companies in the UK must include certain regulatory information on their websites and in their email footers before 1 January 2007 or they will breach the Companies Act and risk a fine. Every company should list its company registration number, place of registration, and registered office address on its website as a result of an update to the legislation of 1985. The information, which must be in legible characters, should also appear on order forms and in emails. Such information is already required on "business letters" but the duty is being extended to websites, order forms and electronic documents. I also wonder what IMS Group PLC think about you plagiarizing their name?? Just by the above points in my humble opinion it looks like you need help with your company and you will probably be best spending your Romanian recruitment drive money in setting up your company professionally. As just a five minute perusal of your website would lead me to believe that I wouldn't touch your company with the proverbial barge pole. Have you even considered that is why you didn't have any applicants for your telesales job? Also if you are going to go running to the press which puts your company under the spotlight you should really dot your i's and cross your t's. That is why their are professional PR companies out there. Feel free to leave a comment and I would be happy to contact you and discuss these points with you. But I doubt you would want to pay a professionals hourly rate![/p][/quote]That sums it up for me. Let him import his Romanians. Probably manage 3 months then get full benefits. simcal
  • Score: 7

4:08pm Mon 3 Feb 14

baylin says...

yet_another_one wrote:
I quickly discovered most of the 'local' people employed by my company appeared to be interested only in what was in their pay packet at the end of the week rather than looking to contribute to the long term stability of the business and security of the positions they occupied.
We offered attractive pay and conditions but it had to be earned. It may not be a surprise to many but businesses are not charitable organisations, they exist to make profits which are then passed on to employees in salaries and to fund attractive conditions for their working environment.
Employment agencies charge silly money for their services and I found the support provided was not commensurate (a word often used by them) with quality of service provided and/or quality of candidates put forward by them. Quite often, it became obvious they simply did not understand what their clients were looking for.
We placed advertisements in the local press and that also proved to be a waste of space, time and money.
We even tried to recruit through the Job Centre and I have to say the quality of applicants from this source was worse as it became obvious they were encouraging applications for positions posted throughout their network from people who were, let’s say, totally unsuitable. I often wondered if this was done to manipulate statistics to justify their performance, policies/decisions made by them.
Truly, a scandalous state of affairs.
Maybe, the image of those who are grossly overpaid or the ‘wannabe’ culture is a problem in society that has been created with most not having an adequate skill set or work ethic to justify their expectations.
Time to wake up and smell the coffee - our workforce is in danger of missing what opportunities are available to them for being too lazy.
this guy is an idiot what does he expect of course people are interested in how much is in their pay packet at the end of the week and no doubt if he wasn't paying poverty line wages he wouldn't have to recruit in the old Warsaw pact if he paid decent wages. Iv met his type before his and her range rovers for him and his wife holidays to beach to Barbados villa in Spain Skying in winter and if you work for him you would be lucky to pay the rent on a bed sit. He needs to wake up and smell the coffee people need motivating with decent wages.
[quote][p][bold]yet_another_one[/bold] wrote: I quickly discovered most of the 'local' people employed by my company appeared to be interested only in what was in their pay packet at the end of the week rather than looking to contribute to the long term stability of the business and security of the positions they occupied. We offered attractive pay and conditions but it had to be earned. It may not be a surprise to many but businesses are not charitable organisations, they exist to make profits which are then passed on to employees in salaries and to fund attractive conditions for their working environment. Employment agencies charge silly money for their services and I found the support provided was not commensurate (a word often used by them) with quality of service provided and/or quality of candidates put forward by them. Quite often, it became obvious they simply did not understand what their clients were looking for. We placed advertisements in the local press and that also proved to be a waste of space, time and money. We even tried to recruit through the Job Centre and I have to say the quality of applicants from this source was worse as it became obvious they were encouraging applications for positions posted throughout their network from people who were, let’s say, totally unsuitable. I often wondered if this was done to manipulate statistics to justify their performance, policies/decisions made by them. Truly, a scandalous state of affairs. Maybe, the image of those who are grossly overpaid or the ‘wannabe’ culture is a problem in society that has been created with most not having an adequate skill set or work ethic to justify their expectations. Time to wake up and smell the coffee - our workforce is in danger of missing what opportunities are available to them for being too lazy.[/p][/quote]this guy is an idiot what does he expect of course people are interested in how much is in their pay packet at the end of the week and no doubt if he wasn't paying poverty line wages he wouldn't have to recruit in the old Warsaw pact if he paid decent wages. Iv met his type before his and her range rovers for him and his wife holidays to beach to Barbados villa in Spain Skying in winter and if you work for him you would be lucky to pay the rent on a bed sit. He needs to wake up and smell the coffee people need motivating with decent wages. baylin
  • Score: 12

4:21pm Mon 3 Feb 14

LeeThorne says...

Telesales and marketing... 2 Job specifics with high staff turn over. Don't hit your sales targets you get sacked. Yeah great.
Telesales and marketing... 2 Job specifics with high staff turn over. Don't hit your sales targets you get sacked. Yeah great. LeeThorne
  • Score: 10

4:31pm Mon 3 Feb 14

GeorgeW64 says...

Try paying a decent living wage, you might get a response. Or move your company to Romania instead of bringing them here.
Try paying a decent living wage, you might get a response. Or move your company to Romania instead of bringing them here. GeorgeW64
  • Score: 8

4:55pm Mon 3 Feb 14

WestMoors1 says...

Some people will make up anything as an excuse to visit cheap Eastern European Hookers!
Some people will make up anything as an excuse to visit cheap Eastern European Hookers! WestMoors1
  • Score: 9

4:56pm Mon 3 Feb 14

M0Z says...

jsdorset wrote:
Just had another look at his website, as I had 5 minutes spare.
Laughably he professes his company to be able to create and design a dynamic web site using his "highly experienced team of designers" and "Once your web site is up and running, we can help you drive traffic to your site with search engine optimisation and e-mail marketing"

Well a few pointers Jason Harris a Linkedin listing doesn't show what you profess to be an area of your companies expertise does it? also your coloured "buttons" running down the left side of your web page don't work.
Also I cannot find your company details on your web site, I believe that
Companies in the UK must include certain regulatory information on their websites and in their email footers before 1 January 2007 or they will breach the Companies Act and risk a fine.

Every company should list its company registration number, place of registration, and registered office address on its website as a result of an update to the legislation of 1985. The information, which must be in legible characters, should also appear on order forms and in emails. Such information is already required on "business letters" but the duty is being extended to websites, order forms and electronic documents.

I also wonder what IMS Group PLC think about you plagiarizing their name??

Just by the above points in my humble opinion it looks like you need help with your company and you will probably be best spending your Romanian recruitment drive money in setting up your company professionally. As just a five minute perusal of your website would lead me to believe that I wouldn't touch your company with the proverbial barge pole. Have you even considered that is why you didn't have any applicants for your telesales job?
Also if you are going to go running to the press which puts your company under the spotlight you should really dot your i's and cross your t's. That is why their are professional PR companies out there.
Feel free to leave a comment and I would be happy to contact you and discuss these points with you. But I doubt you would want to pay a professionals hourly rate!
You seem correct in everything you say. It’s worse than that though. Not only is their website lacking the legally required company information, but on their LinkedIn page they claim to be IMS Limited of 22 The Market Place, Ringwood. A quick check on Companies House shows that IMS Ltd is a totally different business, based in London. It seems they are not just illegally withholding their identity on their own website, they are fraudulently claiming to be someone else on LinkedIn. I can’t help but think this business is as incompetent at building websites as it is at marketing their own job vacancies. They’re good at PR though – they’ve reached lots of people like myself who’d never heard of them before. Perhaps not a good thing though!!
[quote][p][bold]jsdorset[/bold] wrote: Just had another look at his website, as I had 5 minutes spare. Laughably he professes his company to be able to create and design a dynamic web site using his "highly experienced team of designers" and "Once your web site is up and running, we can help you drive traffic to your site with search engine optimisation and e-mail marketing" Well a few pointers Jason Harris a Linkedin listing doesn't show what you profess to be an area of your companies expertise does it? also your coloured "buttons" running down the left side of your web page don't work. Also I cannot find your company details on your web site, I believe that Companies in the UK must include certain regulatory information on their websites and in their email footers before 1 January 2007 or they will breach the Companies Act and risk a fine. Every company should list its company registration number, place of registration, and registered office address on its website as a result of an update to the legislation of 1985. The information, which must be in legible characters, should also appear on order forms and in emails. Such information is already required on "business letters" but the duty is being extended to websites, order forms and electronic documents. I also wonder what IMS Group PLC think about you plagiarizing their name?? Just by the above points in my humble opinion it looks like you need help with your company and you will probably be best spending your Romanian recruitment drive money in setting up your company professionally. As just a five minute perusal of your website would lead me to believe that I wouldn't touch your company with the proverbial barge pole. Have you even considered that is why you didn't have any applicants for your telesales job? Also if you are going to go running to the press which puts your company under the spotlight you should really dot your i's and cross your t's. That is why their are professional PR companies out there. Feel free to leave a comment and I would be happy to contact you and discuss these points with you. But I doubt you would want to pay a professionals hourly rate![/p][/quote]You seem correct in everything you say. It’s worse than that though. Not only is their website lacking the legally required company information, but on their LinkedIn page they claim to be IMS Limited of 22 The Market Place, Ringwood. A quick check on Companies House shows that IMS Ltd is a totally different business, based in London. It seems they are not just illegally withholding their identity on their own website, they are fraudulently claiming to be someone else on LinkedIn. I can’t help but think this business is as incompetent at building websites as it is at marketing their own job vacancies. They’re good at PR though – they’ve reached lots of people like myself who’d never heard of them before. Perhaps not a good thing though!! M0Z
  • Score: 8

5:11pm Mon 3 Feb 14

John T says...

jsdorset wrote:
Oops sorry typo in my above post :- " That is why their are professional PR companies out there"
should read "That is why THERE are professional PR companies out there"

Before the grammar police come calling!
THERE there now...but I agree 100% with your original comments about this clown's website.
He may find more people might contact his company if he had a 'Contact Us' and an ' Opportunities Available' tab on his website, and if the font size was large enough to be read more easily; instead of cramming it with bulls**t!
[quote][p][bold]jsdorset[/bold] wrote: Oops sorry typo in my above post :- " That is why their are professional PR companies out there" should read "That is why THERE are professional PR companies out there" Before the grammar police come calling![/p][/quote]THERE there now...but I agree 100% with your original comments about this clown's website. He may find more people might contact his company if he had a 'Contact Us' and an ' Opportunities Available' tab on his website, and if the font size was large enough to be read more easily; instead of cramming it with bulls**t! John T
  • Score: 7

5:26pm Mon 3 Feb 14

whataboutthat says...

Romanians selling ad space to Bournemouth local businesses on behalf of council magazines, phew, - the guy's in marketing after all.
Romanians selling ad space to Bournemouth local businesses on behalf of council magazines, phew, - the guy's in marketing after all. whataboutthat
  • Score: 5

5:40pm Mon 3 Feb 14

John T says...

WestMoors1 wrote:
Some people will make up anything as an excuse to visit cheap Eastern European Hookers!
Yes, otherwise, one must wonder why Jason is setting off to Romania in search of the Golden Fleece, when he seems perfectly capable of delivering it from his comfortable desk here at home?!?
[quote][p][bold]WestMoors1[/bold] wrote: Some people will make up anything as an excuse to visit cheap Eastern European Hookers![/p][/quote]Yes, otherwise, one must wonder why Jason is setting off to Romania in search of the Golden Fleece, when he seems perfectly capable of delivering it from his comfortable desk here at home?!? John T
  • Score: 4

6:04pm Mon 3 Feb 14

davecook says...

Probably plenty of unfilled vacancies in Romania, and plenty of empty houses to choose from too........
Probably plenty of unfilled vacancies in Romania, and plenty of empty houses to choose from too........ davecook
  • Score: 1

6:22pm Mon 3 Feb 14

nickynoodah says...

locals will work for low pay you know
take a look at sunseeker
locals will work for low pay you know take a look at sunseeker nickynoodah
  • Score: 1

6:31pm Mon 3 Feb 14

jsdorset says...

M0Z wrote:
jsdorset wrote:
Just had another look at his website, as I had 5 minutes spare.
Laughably he professes his company to be able to create and design a dynamic web site using his "highly experienced team of designers" and "Once your web site is up and running, we can help you drive traffic to your site with search engine optimisation and e-mail marketing"

Well a few pointers Jason Harris a Linkedin listing doesn't show what you profess to be an area of your companies expertise does it? also your coloured "buttons" running down the left side of your web page don't work.
Also I cannot find your company details on your web site, I believe that
Companies in the UK must include certain regulatory information on their websites and in their email footers before 1 January 2007 or they will breach the Companies Act and risk a fine.

Every company should list its company registration number, place of registration, and registered office address on its website as a result of an update to the legislation of 1985. The information, which must be in legible characters, should also appear on order forms and in emails. Such information is already required on "business letters" but the duty is being extended to websites, order forms and electronic documents.

I also wonder what IMS Group PLC think about you plagiarizing their name??

Just by the above points in my humble opinion it looks like you need help with your company and you will probably be best spending your Romanian recruitment drive money in setting up your company professionally. As just a five minute perusal of your website would lead me to believe that I wouldn't touch your company with the proverbial barge pole. Have you even considered that is why you didn't have any applicants for your telesales job?
Also if you are going to go running to the press which puts your company under the spotlight you should really dot your i's and cross your t's. That is why their are professional PR companies out there.
Feel free to leave a comment and I would be happy to contact you and discuss these points with you. But I doubt you would want to pay a professionals hourly rate!
You seem correct in everything you say. It’s worse than that though. Not only is their website lacking the legally required company information, but on their LinkedIn page they claim to be IMS Limited of 22 The Market Place, Ringwood. A quick check on Companies House shows that IMS Ltd is a totally different business, based in London. It seems they are not just illegally withholding their identity on their own website, they are fraudulently claiming to be someone else on LinkedIn. I can’t help but think this business is as incompetent at building websites as it is at marketing their own job vacancies. They’re good at PR though – they’ve reached lots of people like myself who’d never heard of them before. Perhaps not a good thing though!!
He also has an e-commerce site http://ims.uk.clickp
romo.com/contact where he claims to be IMS Ltd but there is no company registration number on website or registered address and when you search companies house there is no IMS Ltd only 2 listings for IMS LIMITED both which are dissolved or closed.
As far as I am aware that is illegal. Perhaps the police or trading standards should look into this.
[quote][p][bold]M0Z[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jsdorset[/bold] wrote: Just had another look at his website, as I had 5 minutes spare. Laughably he professes his company to be able to create and design a dynamic web site using his "highly experienced team of designers" and "Once your web site is up and running, we can help you drive traffic to your site with search engine optimisation and e-mail marketing" Well a few pointers Jason Harris a Linkedin listing doesn't show what you profess to be an area of your companies expertise does it? also your coloured "buttons" running down the left side of your web page don't work. Also I cannot find your company details on your web site, I believe that Companies in the UK must include certain regulatory information on their websites and in their email footers before 1 January 2007 or they will breach the Companies Act and risk a fine. Every company should list its company registration number, place of registration, and registered office address on its website as a result of an update to the legislation of 1985. The information, which must be in legible characters, should also appear on order forms and in emails. Such information is already required on "business letters" but the duty is being extended to websites, order forms and electronic documents. I also wonder what IMS Group PLC think about you plagiarizing their name?? Just by the above points in my humble opinion it looks like you need help with your company and you will probably be best spending your Romanian recruitment drive money in setting up your company professionally. As just a five minute perusal of your website would lead me to believe that I wouldn't touch your company with the proverbial barge pole. Have you even considered that is why you didn't have any applicants for your telesales job? Also if you are going to go running to the press which puts your company under the spotlight you should really dot your i's and cross your t's. That is why their are professional PR companies out there. Feel free to leave a comment and I would be happy to contact you and discuss these points with you. But I doubt you would want to pay a professionals hourly rate![/p][/quote]You seem correct in everything you say. It’s worse than that though. Not only is their website lacking the legally required company information, but on their LinkedIn page they claim to be IMS Limited of 22 The Market Place, Ringwood. A quick check on Companies House shows that IMS Ltd is a totally different business, based in London. It seems they are not just illegally withholding their identity on their own website, they are fraudulently claiming to be someone else on LinkedIn. I can’t help but think this business is as incompetent at building websites as it is at marketing their own job vacancies. They’re good at PR though – they’ve reached lots of people like myself who’d never heard of them before. Perhaps not a good thing though!![/p][/quote]He also has an e-commerce site http://ims.uk.clickp romo.com/contact where he claims to be IMS Ltd but there is no company registration number on website or registered address and when you search companies house there is no IMS Ltd only 2 listings for IMS LIMITED both which are dissolved or closed. As far as I am aware that is illegal. Perhaps the police or trading standards should look into this. jsdorset
  • Score: 2

6:38pm Mon 3 Feb 14

yet_another_one says...

baylin wrote:
yet_another_one wrote:
I quickly discovered most of the 'local' people employed by my company appeared to be interested only in what was in their pay packet at the end of the week rather than looking to contribute to the long term stability of the business and security of the positions they occupied.
We offered attractive pay and conditions but it had to be earned. It may not be a surprise to many but businesses are not charitable organisations, they exist to make profits which are then passed on to employees in salaries and to fund attractive conditions for their working environment.
Employment agencies charge silly money for their services and I found the support provided was not commensurate (a word often used by them) with quality of service provided and/or quality of candidates put forward by them. Quite often, it became obvious they simply did not understand what their clients were looking for.
We placed advertisements in the local press and that also proved to be a waste of space, time and money.
We even tried to recruit through the Job Centre and I have to say the quality of applicants from this source was worse as it became obvious they were encouraging applications for positions posted throughout their network from people who were, let’s say, totally unsuitable. I often wondered if this was done to manipulate statistics to justify their performance, policies/decisions made by them.
Truly, a scandalous state of affairs.
Maybe, the image of those who are grossly overpaid or the ‘wannabe’ culture is a problem in society that has been created with most not having an adequate skill set or work ethic to justify their expectations.
Time to wake up and smell the coffee - our workforce is in danger of missing what opportunities are available to them for being too lazy.
this guy is an idiot what does he expect of course people are interested in how much is in their pay packet at the end of the week and no doubt if he wasn't paying poverty line wages he wouldn't have to recruit in the old Warsaw pact if he paid decent wages. Iv met his type before his and her range rovers for him and his wife holidays to beach to Barbados villa in Spain Skying in winter and if you work for him you would be lucky to pay the rent on a bed sit. He needs to wake up and smell the coffee people need motivating with decent wages.
I'm no idiot and for the record, the salaries offered were good.
So, let me ask you a question - would you be happy to keep paying out a salary with not much coming back in return? I think not.
I found one guy wasn't making the amount of calls he claimed - silly, when telephone companies can now provide a call log.
The real reason why he wasn't making calls, he was always on the internet following up his own interests.
Finally, my wife and I do not drive Range Rover's and we haven't had a holiday in years, preferring to invest what money was available into the business in order to motivate those working for us.
Yes, we own our home and that was paid for through sheer hard work.
[quote][p][bold]baylin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]yet_another_one[/bold] wrote: I quickly discovered most of the 'local' people employed by my company appeared to be interested only in what was in their pay packet at the end of the week rather than looking to contribute to the long term stability of the business and security of the positions they occupied. We offered attractive pay and conditions but it had to be earned. It may not be a surprise to many but businesses are not charitable organisations, they exist to make profits which are then passed on to employees in salaries and to fund attractive conditions for their working environment. Employment agencies charge silly money for their services and I found the support provided was not commensurate (a word often used by them) with quality of service provided and/or quality of candidates put forward by them. Quite often, it became obvious they simply did not understand what their clients were looking for. We placed advertisements in the local press and that also proved to be a waste of space, time and money. We even tried to recruit through the Job Centre and I have to say the quality of applicants from this source was worse as it became obvious they were encouraging applications for positions posted throughout their network from people who were, let’s say, totally unsuitable. I often wondered if this was done to manipulate statistics to justify their performance, policies/decisions made by them. Truly, a scandalous state of affairs. Maybe, the image of those who are grossly overpaid or the ‘wannabe’ culture is a problem in society that has been created with most not having an adequate skill set or work ethic to justify their expectations. Time to wake up and smell the coffee - our workforce is in danger of missing what opportunities are available to them for being too lazy.[/p][/quote]this guy is an idiot what does he expect of course people are interested in how much is in their pay packet at the end of the week and no doubt if he wasn't paying poverty line wages he wouldn't have to recruit in the old Warsaw pact if he paid decent wages. Iv met his type before his and her range rovers for him and his wife holidays to beach to Barbados villa in Spain Skying in winter and if you work for him you would be lucky to pay the rent on a bed sit. He needs to wake up and smell the coffee people need motivating with decent wages.[/p][/quote]I'm no idiot and for the record, the salaries offered were good. So, let me ask you a question - would you be happy to keep paying out a salary with not much coming back in return? I think not. I found one guy wasn't making the amount of calls he claimed - silly, when telephone companies can now provide a call log. The real reason why he wasn't making calls, he was always on the internet following up his own interests. Finally, my wife and I do not drive Range Rover's and we haven't had a holiday in years, preferring to invest what money was available into the business in order to motivate those working for us. Yes, we own our home and that was paid for through sheer hard work. yet_another_one
  • Score: -7

7:29pm Mon 3 Feb 14

High Treason says...

The same company that is involved in the trashy council propaganda paper which is paid for by us, BH Life.
The same company that is involved in the trashy council propaganda paper which is paid for by us, BH Life. High Treason
  • Score: 4

7:34pm Mon 3 Feb 14

Adrian XX says...

jsdorset wrote:
M0Z wrote:
jsdorset wrote:
Just had another look at his website, as I had 5 minutes spare.
Laughably he professes his company to be able to create and design a dynamic web site using his "highly experienced team of designers" and "Once your web site is up and running, we can help you drive traffic to your site with search engine optimisation and e-mail marketing"

Well a few pointers Jason Harris a Linkedin listing doesn't show what you profess to be an area of your companies expertise does it? also your coloured "buttons" running down the left side of your web page don't work.
Also I cannot find your company details on your web site, I believe that
Companies in the UK must include certain regulatory information on their websites and in their email footers before 1 January 2007 or they will breach the Companies Act and risk a fine.

Every company should list its company registration number, place of registration, and registered office address on its website as a result of an update to the legislation of 1985. The information, which must be in legible characters, should also appear on order forms and in emails. Such information is already required on "business letters" but the duty is being extended to websites, order forms and electronic documents.

I also wonder what IMS Group PLC think about you plagiarizing their name??

Just by the above points in my humble opinion it looks like you need help with your company and you will probably be best spending your Romanian recruitment drive money in setting up your company professionally. As just a five minute perusal of your website would lead me to believe that I wouldn't touch your company with the proverbial barge pole. Have you even considered that is why you didn't have any applicants for your telesales job?
Also if you are going to go running to the press which puts your company under the spotlight you should really dot your i's and cross your t's. That is why their are professional PR companies out there.
Feel free to leave a comment and I would be happy to contact you and discuss these points with you. But I doubt you would want to pay a professionals hourly rate!
You seem correct in everything you say. It’s worse than that though. Not only is their website lacking the legally required company information, but on their LinkedIn page they claim to be IMS Limited of 22 The Market Place, Ringwood. A quick check on Companies House shows that IMS Ltd is a totally different business, based in London. It seems they are not just illegally withholding their identity on their own website, they are fraudulently claiming to be someone else on LinkedIn. I can’t help but think this business is as incompetent at building websites as it is at marketing their own job vacancies. They’re good at PR though – they’ve reached lots of people like myself who’d never heard of them before. Perhaps not a good thing though!!
He also has an e-commerce site http://ims.uk.clickp

romo.com/contact where he claims to be IMS Ltd but there is no company registration number on website or registered address and when you search companies house there is no IMS Ltd only 2 listings for IMS LIMITED both which are dissolved or closed.
As far as I am aware that is illegal. Perhaps the police or trading standards should look into this.
Does that law concerning company registration numbers really apply? What if you create a website for a group of companies? (sounds like IMS group might cover several companies). I can't see the company registration number on Tesco.com even though there are many companies using the Tesco name at Companies House.

For the record, Jason Harris is a director of Image Management Services Ltd - company number 04560830
[quote][p][bold]jsdorset[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]M0Z[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jsdorset[/bold] wrote: Just had another look at his website, as I had 5 minutes spare. Laughably he professes his company to be able to create and design a dynamic web site using his "highly experienced team of designers" and "Once your web site is up and running, we can help you drive traffic to your site with search engine optimisation and e-mail marketing" Well a few pointers Jason Harris a Linkedin listing doesn't show what you profess to be an area of your companies expertise does it? also your coloured "buttons" running down the left side of your web page don't work. Also I cannot find your company details on your web site, I believe that Companies in the UK must include certain regulatory information on their websites and in their email footers before 1 January 2007 or they will breach the Companies Act and risk a fine. Every company should list its company registration number, place of registration, and registered office address on its website as a result of an update to the legislation of 1985. The information, which must be in legible characters, should also appear on order forms and in emails. Such information is already required on "business letters" but the duty is being extended to websites, order forms and electronic documents. I also wonder what IMS Group PLC think about you plagiarizing their name?? Just by the above points in my humble opinion it looks like you need help with your company and you will probably be best spending your Romanian recruitment drive money in setting up your company professionally. As just a five minute perusal of your website would lead me to believe that I wouldn't touch your company with the proverbial barge pole. Have you even considered that is why you didn't have any applicants for your telesales job? Also if you are going to go running to the press which puts your company under the spotlight you should really dot your i's and cross your t's. That is why their are professional PR companies out there. Feel free to leave a comment and I would be happy to contact you and discuss these points with you. But I doubt you would want to pay a professionals hourly rate![/p][/quote]You seem correct in everything you say. It’s worse than that though. Not only is their website lacking the legally required company information, but on their LinkedIn page they claim to be IMS Limited of 22 The Market Place, Ringwood. A quick check on Companies House shows that IMS Ltd is a totally different business, based in London. It seems they are not just illegally withholding their identity on their own website, they are fraudulently claiming to be someone else on LinkedIn. I can’t help but think this business is as incompetent at building websites as it is at marketing their own job vacancies. They’re good at PR though – they’ve reached lots of people like myself who’d never heard of them before. Perhaps not a good thing though!![/p][/quote]He also has an e-commerce site http://ims.uk.clickp romo.com/contact where he claims to be IMS Ltd but there is no company registration number on website or registered address and when you search companies house there is no IMS Ltd only 2 listings for IMS LIMITED both which are dissolved or closed. As far as I am aware that is illegal. Perhaps the police or trading standards should look into this.[/p][/quote]Does that law concerning company registration numbers really apply? What if you create a website for a group of companies? (sounds like IMS group might cover several companies). I can't see the company registration number on Tesco.com even though there are many companies using the Tesco name at Companies House. For the record, Jason Harris is a director of Image Management Services Ltd - company number 04560830 Adrian XX
  • Score: 2

8:51pm Mon 3 Feb 14

nickynoodah says...

stick a sign out side the premises that says

....................
.VACANCIES..........
...............

the jobs a good un
stick a sign out side the premises that says .................... .VACANCIES.......... ............... the jobs a good un nickynoodah
  • Score: 1

9:55pm Mon 3 Feb 14

O'Reilly says...

Adrian XX wrote:
downmoor.ch63 wrote:
SINCE WHEN DID LOCAL COSERVATIVE MPS, OR FOR THAT MATTER COUNCELLORS ,EVER LOOK AFTER YOU IN BOURNEMOUTH, WAKE UP BOURNEMOUTH!, BOURNEMOUTH WAS ONCE A BEAUTIFUL HEALTHY PLACE TO LIVE IN, AND NOW, TOWN PLANNING, BOOZE, AND DRUGS ARE TURNING IT INTO A BLACKPOOL.
It is the locals boozing though and not the Eastern Europeans. And remember it was the labour government who lifted controls on the first block of Eastern European countries in 2004.
Total horlicks... and you know it. I passed some Polish guys in Roumela Lane at approx 2.30 pm today necking tins of Tyskie.......it cuts both ways.
[quote][p][bold]Adrian XX[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]downmoor.ch63[/bold] wrote: SINCE WHEN DID LOCAL COSERVATIVE MPS, OR FOR THAT MATTER COUNCELLORS ,EVER LOOK AFTER YOU IN BOURNEMOUTH, WAKE UP BOURNEMOUTH!, BOURNEMOUTH WAS ONCE A BEAUTIFUL HEALTHY PLACE TO LIVE IN, AND NOW, TOWN PLANNING, BOOZE, AND DRUGS ARE TURNING IT INTO A BLACKPOOL.[/p][/quote]It is the locals boozing though and not the Eastern Europeans. And remember it was the labour government who lifted controls on the first block of Eastern European countries in 2004.[/p][/quote]Total horlicks... and you know it. I passed some Polish guys in Roumela Lane at approx 2.30 pm today necking tins of Tyskie.......it cuts both ways. O'Reilly
  • Score: 2

11:23pm Mon 3 Feb 14

M0Z says...

jsdorset wrote:
M0Z wrote:
jsdorset wrote:
Just had another look at his website, as I had 5 minutes spare.
Laughably he professes his company to be able to create and design a dynamic web site using his "highly experienced team of designers" and "Once your web site is up and running, we can help you drive traffic to your site with search engine optimisation and e-mail marketing"

Well a few pointers Jason Harris a Linkedin listing doesn't show what you profess to be an area of your companies expertise does it? also your coloured "buttons" running down the left side of your web page don't work.
Also I cannot find your company details on your web site, I believe that
Companies in the UK must include certain regulatory information on their websites and in their email footers before 1 January 2007 or they will breach the Companies Act and risk a fine.

Every company should list its company registration number, place of registration, and registered office address on its website as a result of an update to the legislation of 1985. The information, which must be in legible characters, should also appear on order forms and in emails. Such information is already required on "business letters" but the duty is being extended to websites, order forms and electronic documents.

I also wonder what IMS Group PLC think about you plagiarizing their name??

Just by the above points in my humble opinion it looks like you need help with your company and you will probably be best spending your Romanian recruitment drive money in setting up your company professionally. As just a five minute perusal of your website would lead me to believe that I wouldn't touch your company with the proverbial barge pole. Have you even considered that is why you didn't have any applicants for your telesales job?
Also if you are going to go running to the press which puts your company under the spotlight you should really dot your i's and cross your t's. That is why their are professional PR companies out there.
Feel free to leave a comment and I would be happy to contact you and discuss these points with you. But I doubt you would want to pay a professionals hourly rate!
You seem correct in everything you say. It’s worse than that though. Not only is their website lacking the legally required company information, but on their LinkedIn page they claim to be IMS Limited of 22 The Market Place, Ringwood. A quick check on Companies House shows that IMS Ltd is a totally different business, based in London. It seems they are not just illegally withholding their identity on their own website, they are fraudulently claiming to be someone else on LinkedIn. I can’t help but think this business is as incompetent at building websites as it is at marketing their own job vacancies. They’re good at PR though – they’ve reached lots of people like myself who’d never heard of them before. Perhaps not a good thing though!!
He also has an e-commerce site http://ims.uk.clickp

romo.com/contact where he claims to be IMS Ltd but there is no company registration number on website or registered address and when you search companies house there is no IMS Ltd only 2 listings for IMS LIMITED both which are dissolved or closed.
As far as I am aware that is illegal. Perhaps the police or trading standards should look into this.
Yes, I saw the same on Companies House. There doesn’t appear to be any listing for an “IMS Ltd” that is currently active. I don’t know enough about offshore listings – but this might be legally possible if the company is registered in a British offshore tax haven, I just don’t know. But even if this was the case it wouldn’t remove the requirement to properly identify themselves on a UK website.
[quote][p][bold]jsdorset[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]M0Z[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jsdorset[/bold] wrote: Just had another look at his website, as I had 5 minutes spare. Laughably he professes his company to be able to create and design a dynamic web site using his "highly experienced team of designers" and "Once your web site is up and running, we can help you drive traffic to your site with search engine optimisation and e-mail marketing" Well a few pointers Jason Harris a Linkedin listing doesn't show what you profess to be an area of your companies expertise does it? also your coloured "buttons" running down the left side of your web page don't work. Also I cannot find your company details on your web site, I believe that Companies in the UK must include certain regulatory information on their websites and in their email footers before 1 January 2007 or they will breach the Companies Act and risk a fine. Every company should list its company registration number, place of registration, and registered office address on its website as a result of an update to the legislation of 1985. The information, which must be in legible characters, should also appear on order forms and in emails. Such information is already required on "business letters" but the duty is being extended to websites, order forms and electronic documents. I also wonder what IMS Group PLC think about you plagiarizing their name?? Just by the above points in my humble opinion it looks like you need help with your company and you will probably be best spending your Romanian recruitment drive money in setting up your company professionally. As just a five minute perusal of your website would lead me to believe that I wouldn't touch your company with the proverbial barge pole. Have you even considered that is why you didn't have any applicants for your telesales job? Also if you are going to go running to the press which puts your company under the spotlight you should really dot your i's and cross your t's. That is why their are professional PR companies out there. Feel free to leave a comment and I would be happy to contact you and discuss these points with you. But I doubt you would want to pay a professionals hourly rate![/p][/quote]You seem correct in everything you say. It’s worse than that though. Not only is their website lacking the legally required company information, but on their LinkedIn page they claim to be IMS Limited of 22 The Market Place, Ringwood. A quick check on Companies House shows that IMS Ltd is a totally different business, based in London. It seems they are not just illegally withholding their identity on their own website, they are fraudulently claiming to be someone else on LinkedIn. I can’t help but think this business is as incompetent at building websites as it is at marketing their own job vacancies. They’re good at PR though – they’ve reached lots of people like myself who’d never heard of them before. Perhaps not a good thing though!![/p][/quote]He also has an e-commerce site http://ims.uk.clickp romo.com/contact where he claims to be IMS Ltd but there is no company registration number on website or registered address and when you search companies house there is no IMS Ltd only 2 listings for IMS LIMITED both which are dissolved or closed. As far as I am aware that is illegal. Perhaps the police or trading standards should look into this.[/p][/quote]Yes, I saw the same on Companies House. There doesn’t appear to be any listing for an “IMS Ltd” that is currently active. I don’t know enough about offshore listings – but this might be legally possible if the company is registered in a British offshore tax haven, I just don’t know. But even if this was the case it wouldn’t remove the requirement to properly identify themselves on a UK website. M0Z
  • Score: 2

11:32pm Mon 3 Feb 14

M0Z says...

Adrian XX wrote:
jsdorset wrote:
M0Z wrote:
jsdorset wrote:
Just had another look at his website, as I had 5 minutes spare.
Laughably he professes his company to be able to create and design a dynamic web site using his "highly experienced team of designers" and "Once your web site is up and running, we can help you drive traffic to your site with search engine optimisation and e-mail marketing"

Well a few pointers Jason Harris a Linkedin listing doesn't show what you profess to be an area of your companies expertise does it? also your coloured "buttons" running down the left side of your web page don't work.
Also I cannot find your company details on your web site, I believe that
Companies in the UK must include certain regulatory information on their websites and in their email footers before 1 January 2007 or they will breach the Companies Act and risk a fine.

Every company should list its company registration number, place of registration, and registered office address on its website as a result of an update to the legislation of 1985. The information, which must be in legible characters, should also appear on order forms and in emails. Such information is already required on "business letters" but the duty is being extended to websites, order forms and electronic documents.

I also wonder what IMS Group PLC think about you plagiarizing their name??

Just by the above points in my humble opinion it looks like you need help with your company and you will probably be best spending your Romanian recruitment drive money in setting up your company professionally. As just a five minute perusal of your website would lead me to believe that I wouldn't touch your company with the proverbial barge pole. Have you even considered that is why you didn't have any applicants for your telesales job?
Also if you are going to go running to the press which puts your company under the spotlight you should really dot your i's and cross your t's. That is why their are professional PR companies out there.
Feel free to leave a comment and I would be happy to contact you and discuss these points with you. But I doubt you would want to pay a professionals hourly rate!
You seem correct in everything you say. It’s worse than that though. Not only is their website lacking the legally required company information, but on their LinkedIn page they claim to be IMS Limited of 22 The Market Place, Ringwood. A quick check on Companies House shows that IMS Ltd is a totally different business, based in London. It seems they are not just illegally withholding their identity on their own website, they are fraudulently claiming to be someone else on LinkedIn. I can’t help but think this business is as incompetent at building websites as it is at marketing their own job vacancies. They’re good at PR though – they’ve reached lots of people like myself who’d never heard of them before. Perhaps not a good thing though!!
He also has an e-commerce site http://ims.uk.clickp


romo.com/contact where he claims to be IMS Ltd but there is no company registration number on website or registered address and when you search companies house there is no IMS Ltd only 2 listings for IMS LIMITED both which are dissolved or closed.
As far as I am aware that is illegal. Perhaps the police or trading standards should look into this.
Does that law concerning company registration numbers really apply? What if you create a website for a group of companies? (sounds like IMS group might cover several companies). I can't see the company registration number on Tesco.com even though there are many companies using the Tesco name at Companies House.

For the record, Jason Harris is a director of Image Management Services Ltd - company number 04560830
The Tesco website, like most compliant ones, has a link on the bottom of the page to it’s terms and conditions where it properly identifies itself with Company Registration No. 519500, VAT No. GB220 4302 31 – see http://www.tesco.com
/help/terms-and-cond
itions/
[quote][p][bold]Adrian XX[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jsdorset[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]M0Z[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jsdorset[/bold] wrote: Just had another look at his website, as I had 5 minutes spare. Laughably he professes his company to be able to create and design a dynamic web site using his "highly experienced team of designers" and "Once your web site is up and running, we can help you drive traffic to your site with search engine optimisation and e-mail marketing" Well a few pointers Jason Harris a Linkedin listing doesn't show what you profess to be an area of your companies expertise does it? also your coloured "buttons" running down the left side of your web page don't work. Also I cannot find your company details on your web site, I believe that Companies in the UK must include certain regulatory information on their websites and in their email footers before 1 January 2007 or they will breach the Companies Act and risk a fine. Every company should list its company registration number, place of registration, and registered office address on its website as a result of an update to the legislation of 1985. The information, which must be in legible characters, should also appear on order forms and in emails. Such information is already required on "business letters" but the duty is being extended to websites, order forms and electronic documents. I also wonder what IMS Group PLC think about you plagiarizing their name?? Just by the above points in my humble opinion it looks like you need help with your company and you will probably be best spending your Romanian recruitment drive money in setting up your company professionally. As just a five minute perusal of your website would lead me to believe that I wouldn't touch your company with the proverbial barge pole. Have you even considered that is why you didn't have any applicants for your telesales job? Also if you are going to go running to the press which puts your company under the spotlight you should really dot your i's and cross your t's. That is why their are professional PR companies out there. Feel free to leave a comment and I would be happy to contact you and discuss these points with you. But I doubt you would want to pay a professionals hourly rate![/p][/quote]You seem correct in everything you say. It’s worse than that though. Not only is their website lacking the legally required company information, but on their LinkedIn page they claim to be IMS Limited of 22 The Market Place, Ringwood. A quick check on Companies House shows that IMS Ltd is a totally different business, based in London. It seems they are not just illegally withholding their identity on their own website, they are fraudulently claiming to be someone else on LinkedIn. I can’t help but think this business is as incompetent at building websites as it is at marketing their own job vacancies. They’re good at PR though – they’ve reached lots of people like myself who’d never heard of them before. Perhaps not a good thing though!![/p][/quote]He also has an e-commerce site http://ims.uk.clickp romo.com/contact where he claims to be IMS Ltd but there is no company registration number on website or registered address and when you search companies house there is no IMS Ltd only 2 listings for IMS LIMITED both which are dissolved or closed. As far as I am aware that is illegal. Perhaps the police or trading standards should look into this.[/p][/quote]Does that law concerning company registration numbers really apply? What if you create a website for a group of companies? (sounds like IMS group might cover several companies). I can't see the company registration number on Tesco.com even though there are many companies using the Tesco name at Companies House. For the record, Jason Harris is a director of Image Management Services Ltd - company number 04560830[/p][/quote]The Tesco website, like most compliant ones, has a link on the bottom of the page to it’s terms and conditions where it properly identifies itself with Company Registration No. 519500, VAT No. GB220 4302 31 – see http://www.tesco.com /help/terms-and-cond itions/ M0Z
  • Score: 3

11:58pm Mon 3 Feb 14

jsdorset says...

Adrian XX wrote:
jsdorset wrote:
M0Z wrote:
jsdorset wrote:
Just had another look at his website, as I had 5 minutes spare.
Laughably he professes his company to be able to create and design a dynamic web site using his "highly experienced team of designers" and "Once your web site is up and running, we can help you drive traffic to your site with search engine optimisation and e-mail marketing"

Well a few pointers Jason Harris a Linkedin listing doesn't show what you profess to be an area of your companies expertise does it? also your coloured "buttons" running down the left side of your web page don't work.
Also I cannot find your company details on your web site, I believe that
Companies in the UK must include certain regulatory information on their websites and in their email footers before 1 January 2007 or they will breach the Companies Act and risk a fine.

Every company should list its company registration number, place of registration, and registered office address on its website as a result of an update to the legislation of 1985. The information, which must be in legible characters, should also appear on order forms and in emails. Such information is already required on "business letters" but the duty is being extended to websites, order forms and electronic documents.

I also wonder what IMS Group PLC think about you plagiarizing their name??

Just by the above points in my humble opinion it looks like you need help with your company and you will probably be best spending your Romanian recruitment drive money in setting up your company professionally. As just a five minute perusal of your website would lead me to believe that I wouldn't touch your company with the proverbial barge pole. Have you even considered that is why you didn't have any applicants for your telesales job?
Also if you are going to go running to the press which puts your company under the spotlight you should really dot your i's and cross your t's. That is why their are professional PR companies out there.
Feel free to leave a comment and I would be happy to contact you and discuss these points with you. But I doubt you would want to pay a professionals hourly rate!
You seem correct in everything you say. It’s worse than that though. Not only is their website lacking the legally required company information, but on their LinkedIn page they claim to be IMS Limited of 22 The Market Place, Ringwood. A quick check on Companies House shows that IMS Ltd is a totally different business, based in London. It seems they are not just illegally withholding their identity on their own website, they are fraudulently claiming to be someone else on LinkedIn. I can’t help but think this business is as incompetent at building websites as it is at marketing their own job vacancies. They’re good at PR though – they’ve reached lots of people like myself who’d never heard of them before. Perhaps not a good thing though!!
He also has an e-commerce site http://ims.uk.clickp


romo.com/contact where he claims to be IMS Ltd but there is no company registration number on website or registered address and when you search companies house there is no IMS Ltd only 2 listings for IMS LIMITED both which are dissolved or closed.
As far as I am aware that is illegal. Perhaps the police or trading standards should look into this.
Does that law concerning company registration numbers really apply? What if you create a website for a group of companies? (sounds like IMS group might cover several companies). I can't see the company registration number on Tesco.com even though there are many companies using the Tesco name at Companies House.

For the record, Jason Harris is a director of Image Management Services Ltd - company number 04560830
As far as I am aware yes it does apply see UK's E-commerce regulations http://www.out-law.c
om/page-431

And as for it not being on Tesco's website you obviously
didn't look very hard did you its in the first paragraph here http://www.tescoplc.
com/index.asp?pageid
=149

and here on tesco.com (at bottom of page) http://www.tesco.com
/help/terms-and-cond
itions/

should have gone to specsavers!! who feels silly now!!

I think you will also find that you are not permitted to shorten or abbreviate the registered companies name it has to be displayed as it is registered along with registration number and registered address, just like on Tesco's site that you could not see
[quote][p][bold]Adrian XX[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jsdorset[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]M0Z[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jsdorset[/bold] wrote: Just had another look at his website, as I had 5 minutes spare. Laughably he professes his company to be able to create and design a dynamic web site using his "highly experienced team of designers" and "Once your web site is up and running, we can help you drive traffic to your site with search engine optimisation and e-mail marketing" Well a few pointers Jason Harris a Linkedin listing doesn't show what you profess to be an area of your companies expertise does it? also your coloured "buttons" running down the left side of your web page don't work. Also I cannot find your company details on your web site, I believe that Companies in the UK must include certain regulatory information on their websites and in their email footers before 1 January 2007 or they will breach the Companies Act and risk a fine. Every company should list its company registration number, place of registration, and registered office address on its website as a result of an update to the legislation of 1985. The information, which must be in legible characters, should also appear on order forms and in emails. Such information is already required on "business letters" but the duty is being extended to websites, order forms and electronic documents. I also wonder what IMS Group PLC think about you plagiarizing their name?? Just by the above points in my humble opinion it looks like you need help with your company and you will probably be best spending your Romanian recruitment drive money in setting up your company professionally. As just a five minute perusal of your website would lead me to believe that I wouldn't touch your company with the proverbial barge pole. Have you even considered that is why you didn't have any applicants for your telesales job? Also if you are going to go running to the press which puts your company under the spotlight you should really dot your i's and cross your t's. That is why their are professional PR companies out there. Feel free to leave a comment and I would be happy to contact you and discuss these points with you. But I doubt you would want to pay a professionals hourly rate![/p][/quote]You seem correct in everything you say. It’s worse than that though. Not only is their website lacking the legally required company information, but on their LinkedIn page they claim to be IMS Limited of 22 The Market Place, Ringwood. A quick check on Companies House shows that IMS Ltd is a totally different business, based in London. It seems they are not just illegally withholding their identity on their own website, they are fraudulently claiming to be someone else on LinkedIn. I can’t help but think this business is as incompetent at building websites as it is at marketing their own job vacancies. They’re good at PR though – they’ve reached lots of people like myself who’d never heard of them before. Perhaps not a good thing though!![/p][/quote]He also has an e-commerce site http://ims.uk.clickp romo.com/contact where he claims to be IMS Ltd but there is no company registration number on website or registered address and when you search companies house there is no IMS Ltd only 2 listings for IMS LIMITED both which are dissolved or closed. As far as I am aware that is illegal. Perhaps the police or trading standards should look into this.[/p][/quote]Does that law concerning company registration numbers really apply? What if you create a website for a group of companies? (sounds like IMS group might cover several companies). I can't see the company registration number on Tesco.com even though there are many companies using the Tesco name at Companies House. For the record, Jason Harris is a director of Image Management Services Ltd - company number 04560830[/p][/quote]As far as I am aware yes it does apply see UK's E-commerce regulations http://www.out-law.c om/page-431 And as for it not being on Tesco's website you obviously didn't look very hard did you its in the first paragraph here http://www.tescoplc. com/index.asp?pageid =149 and here on tesco.com (at bottom of page) http://www.tesco.com /help/terms-and-cond itions/ should have gone to specsavers!! who feels silly now!! I think you will also find that you are not permitted to shorten or abbreviate the registered companies name it has to be displayed as it is registered along with registration number and registered address, just like on Tesco's site that you could not see jsdorset
  • Score: -1

12:32am Tue 4 Feb 14

jsdorset says...

M0Z wrote:
jsdorset wrote:
M0Z wrote:
jsdorset wrote:
Just had another look at his website, as I had 5 minutes spare.
Laughably he professes his company to be able to create and design a dynamic web site using his "highly experienced team of designers" and "Once your web site is up and running, we can help you drive traffic to your site with search engine optimisation and e-mail marketing"

Well a few pointers Jason Harris a Linkedin listing doesn't show what you profess to be an area of your companies expertise does it? also your coloured "buttons" running down the left side of your web page don't work.
Also I cannot find your company details on your web site, I believe that
Companies in the UK must include certain regulatory information on their websites and in their email footers before 1 January 2007 or they will breach the Companies Act and risk a fine.

Every company should list its company registration number, place of registration, and registered office address on its website as a result of an update to the legislation of 1985. The information, which must be in legible characters, should also appear on order forms and in emails. Such information is already required on "business letters" but the duty is being extended to websites, order forms and electronic documents.

I also wonder what IMS Group PLC think about you plagiarizing their name??

Just by the above points in my humble opinion it looks like you need help with your company and you will probably be best spending your Romanian recruitment drive money in setting up your company professionally. As just a five minute perusal of your website would lead me to believe that I wouldn't touch your company with the proverbial barge pole. Have you even considered that is why you didn't have any applicants for your telesales job?
Also if you are going to go running to the press which puts your company under the spotlight you should really dot your i's and cross your t's. That is why their are professional PR companies out there.
Feel free to leave a comment and I would be happy to contact you and discuss these points with you. But I doubt you would want to pay a professionals hourly rate!
You seem correct in everything you say. It’s worse than that though. Not only is their website lacking the legally required company information, but on their LinkedIn page they claim to be IMS Limited of 22 The Market Place, Ringwood. A quick check on Companies House shows that IMS Ltd is a totally different business, based in London. It seems they are not just illegally withholding their identity on their own website, they are fraudulently claiming to be someone else on LinkedIn. I can’t help but think this business is as incompetent at building websites as it is at marketing their own job vacancies. They’re good at PR though – they’ve reached lots of people like myself who’d never heard of them before. Perhaps not a good thing though!!
He also has an e-commerce site http://ims.uk.clickp


romo.com/contact where he claims to be IMS Ltd but there is no company registration number on website or registered address and when you search companies house there is no IMS Ltd only 2 listings for IMS LIMITED both which are dissolved or closed.
As far as I am aware that is illegal. Perhaps the police or trading standards should look into this.
Yes, I saw the same on Companies House. There doesn’t appear to be any listing for an “IMS Ltd” that is currently active. I don’t know enough about offshore listings – but this might be legally possible if the company is registered in a British offshore tax haven, I just don’t know. But even if this was the case it wouldn’t remove the requirement to properly identify themselves on a UK website.
Moz in case you are interested this is a very good site with all relevant legislation information www.out-law.com/page
-431

He risks prosecution.

On his site http://ims.uk.clickp
romo.com/policies he refers to the company continually as IMS Ltd and as "ADRIAN XX" or could that be Jason Harris points out that Jason Harris is a director of Image Management Services Ltd - company number 04560830 but nowhere on that site does he list this. or his registered address.
And shortening, abbreviating or any change of name is not permitted unless you clearly state that you are xyz ltd of 123 any street, any town is a company registered in England and Wales with company number 1234567 and is trading as zyx, you are definitely not allowed to add Ltd or Limited to any name unless you are registered as that Ltd company as I believe that contravenes the companies act 2006

Whats the betting it changes tonight or tomorrow.

I stand by my comment that his team of experts are definitely not experts and neither is he. As if they were they would not make this type of error and as a director he is ultimately responsible as ignorance of the law is no excuse.
[quote][p][bold]M0Z[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jsdorset[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]M0Z[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jsdorset[/bold] wrote: Just had another look at his website, as I had 5 minutes spare. Laughably he professes his company to be able to create and design a dynamic web site using his "highly experienced team of designers" and "Once your web site is up and running, we can help you drive traffic to your site with search engine optimisation and e-mail marketing" Well a few pointers Jason Harris a Linkedin listing doesn't show what you profess to be an area of your companies expertise does it? also your coloured "buttons" running down the left side of your web page don't work. Also I cannot find your company details on your web site, I believe that Companies in the UK must include certain regulatory information on their websites and in their email footers before 1 January 2007 or they will breach the Companies Act and risk a fine. Every company should list its company registration number, place of registration, and registered office address on its website as a result of an update to the legislation of 1985. The information, which must be in legible characters, should also appear on order forms and in emails. Such information is already required on "business letters" but the duty is being extended to websites, order forms and electronic documents. I also wonder what IMS Group PLC think about you plagiarizing their name?? Just by the above points in my humble opinion it looks like you need help with your company and you will probably be best spending your Romanian recruitment drive money in setting up your company professionally. As just a five minute perusal of your website would lead me to believe that I wouldn't touch your company with the proverbial barge pole. Have you even considered that is why you didn't have any applicants for your telesales job? Also if you are going to go running to the press which puts your company under the spotlight you should really dot your i's and cross your t's. That is why their are professional PR companies out there. Feel free to leave a comment and I would be happy to contact you and discuss these points with you. But I doubt you would want to pay a professionals hourly rate![/p][/quote]You seem correct in everything you say. It’s worse than that though. Not only is their website lacking the legally required company information, but on their LinkedIn page they claim to be IMS Limited of 22 The Market Place, Ringwood. A quick check on Companies House shows that IMS Ltd is a totally different business, based in London. It seems they are not just illegally withholding their identity on their own website, they are fraudulently claiming to be someone else on LinkedIn. I can’t help but think this business is as incompetent at building websites as it is at marketing their own job vacancies. They’re good at PR though – they’ve reached lots of people like myself who’d never heard of them before. Perhaps not a good thing though!![/p][/quote]He also has an e-commerce site http://ims.uk.clickp romo.com/contact where he claims to be IMS Ltd but there is no company registration number on website or registered address and when you search companies house there is no IMS Ltd only 2 listings for IMS LIMITED both which are dissolved or closed. As far as I am aware that is illegal. Perhaps the police or trading standards should look into this.[/p][/quote]Yes, I saw the same on Companies House. There doesn’t appear to be any listing for an “IMS Ltd” that is currently active. I don’t know enough about offshore listings – but this might be legally possible if the company is registered in a British offshore tax haven, I just don’t know. But even if this was the case it wouldn’t remove the requirement to properly identify themselves on a UK website.[/p][/quote]Moz in case you are interested this is a very good site with all relevant legislation information www.out-law.com/page -431 He risks prosecution. On his site http://ims.uk.clickp romo.com/policies he refers to the company continually as IMS Ltd and as "ADRIAN XX" or could that be Jason Harris points out that Jason Harris is a director of Image Management Services Ltd - company number 04560830 but nowhere on that site does he list this. or his registered address. And shortening, abbreviating or any change of name is not permitted unless you clearly state that you are xyz ltd of 123 any street, any town is a company registered in England and Wales with company number 1234567 and is trading as zyx, you are definitely not allowed to add Ltd or Limited to any name unless you are registered as that Ltd company as I believe that contravenes the companies act 2006 Whats the betting it changes tonight or tomorrow. I stand by my comment that his team of experts are definitely not experts and neither is he. As if they were they would not make this type of error and as a director he is ultimately responsible as ignorance of the law is no excuse. jsdorset
  • Score: 3

2:02am Tue 4 Feb 14

MrPitiful says...

BmthNewshound wrote:
Don't know why so many of you have given the thumbs down to the comment from "yet_another_on
e" but give the thumbs up to "MrPitiful" who suggests its unreasonable to expect people to travel from Bournemouth to Ringwood to work.
.
I think this demonstrates the poor work ethic of so many British people who seem to think it is their birth right to be paid a high salary without putting in the effort. I suppose its just easier to sit at home wasting your life away and claiming benefits than getting off your backside and working for a living.
.
I fully agree there is a poor work ethic amongst some of theBritish - and also I would add immigrant - population. Also agree that some obviously prefer to sit at home & claim when they should be working.

However, that's not really the point I am making in my post.

My point is this - this company is advertising a telesales position based in Ringwood with a basic salary of £16k plus commission, along with a fairly standard set of associated benefits.

The company owner is aggrieved because he can't fill the position with a local candidate.

Within a reasonable travelling distance of RIngwood, most of the appropriate workforce ( appropriate by way of experience, talent, ability etc) live in Bournemouth/Poole area. This is evident by the number of call centres currently in Bournemouth and Poole. They use the local workforce which includes not just full time call-centre professionals but also part time mums/dads, students etc.

These call centres all offer full time salaries, commission and benefits similar to that offered by this company.

Now put yourself in this postion. You live in Bournemouth. You are offered 2 jobs. Call centre A, based in Bournemouth offers you £16k, commission & benefits. Call centre B, based in RIngwood, offers you the same.

£16k is not the highest salary in the world & petrol for your car is £1.30 a litre. You have rent to pay, kids to support and call centre A is only 5 minutes away in town, whereas Call Centre B is approx 8 miles away, along a road notorious for accidents, delays etc.

Which job would you most likely accept?

It's not about expecting a high salary for doing the least work, as most folk who work in call centres are more realistic than that. It's about being as financially & time-efficient during hard times, yet at the same time keeping yourself in as stable a job as possible.
[quote][p][bold]BmthNewshound[/bold] wrote: Don't know why so many of you have given the thumbs down to the comment from "yet_another_on e" but give the thumbs up to "MrPitiful" who suggests its unreasonable to expect people to travel from Bournemouth to Ringwood to work. . I think this demonstrates the poor work ethic of so many British people who seem to think it is their birth right to be paid a high salary without putting in the effort. I suppose its just easier to sit at home wasting your life away and claiming benefits than getting off your backside and working for a living. .[/p][/quote]I fully agree there is a poor work ethic amongst some of theBritish - and also I would add immigrant - population. Also agree that some obviously prefer to sit at home & claim when they should be working. However, that's not really the point I am making in my post. My point is this - this company is advertising a telesales position based in Ringwood with a basic salary of £16k plus commission, along with a fairly standard set of associated benefits. The company owner is aggrieved because he can't fill the position with a local candidate. Within a reasonable travelling distance of RIngwood, most of the appropriate workforce ( appropriate by way of experience, talent, ability etc) live in Bournemouth/Poole area. This is evident by the number of call centres currently in Bournemouth and Poole. They use the local workforce which includes not just full time call-centre professionals but also part time mums/dads, students etc. These call centres all offer full time salaries, commission and benefits similar to that offered by this company. Now put yourself in this postion. You live in Bournemouth. You are offered 2 jobs. Call centre A, based in Bournemouth offers you £16k, commission & benefits. Call centre B, based in RIngwood, offers you the same. £16k is not the highest salary in the world & petrol for your car is £1.30 a litre. You have rent to pay, kids to support and call centre A is only 5 minutes away in town, whereas Call Centre B is approx 8 miles away, along a road notorious for accidents, delays etc. Which job would you most likely accept? It's not about expecting a high salary for doing the least work, as most folk who work in call centres are more realistic than that. It's about being as financially & time-efficient during hard times, yet at the same time keeping yourself in as stable a job as possible. MrPitiful
  • Score: 5

2:04am Tue 4 Feb 14

MrPitiful says...

BmthNewshound wrote:
Don't know why so many of you have given the thumbs down to the comment from "yet_another_on
e" but give the thumbs up to "MrPitiful" who suggests its unreasonable to expect people to travel from Bournemouth to Ringwood to work.
.
I think this demonstrates the poor work ethic of so many British people who seem to think it is their birth right to be paid a high salary without putting in the effort. I suppose its just easier to sit at home wasting your life away and claiming benefits than getting off your backside and working for a living.
.
I fully agree there is a poor work ethic amongst some of theBritish - and also I would add immigrant - population. Also agree that some obviously prefer to sit at home & claim when they should be working.

However, that's not really the point I am making in my post.

My point is this - this company is advertising a telesales position based in Ringwood with a basic salary of £16k plus commission, along with a fairly standard set of associated benefits.

The company owner is aggrieved because he can't fill the position with a local candidate.

Within a reasonable travelling distance of RIngwood, most of the appropriate workforce ( appropriate by way of experience, talent, ability etc) live in Bournemouth/Poole area. This is evident by the number of call centres currently in Bournemouth and Poole. They use the local workforce which includes not just full time call-centre professionals but also part time mums/dads, students etc.

These call centres all offer full time salaries, commission and benefits similar to that offered by this company.

Now put yourself in this postion. You live in Bournemouth. You are offered 2 jobs. Call centre A, based in Bournemouth offers you £16k, commission & benefits. Call centre B, based in RIngwood, offers you the same.

£16k is not the highest salary in the world & petrol for your car is £1.30 a litre. You have rent to pay, kids to support and call centre A is only 5 minutes away in town, whereas Call Centre B is approx 8 miles away, along a road notorious for accidents, delays etc.

Which job would you most likely accept?

It's not about expecting a high salary for doing the least work, as most folk who work in call centres are more realistic than that. It's about being as financially & time-efficient during hard times, yet at the same time keeping yourself in as stable a job as possible.
[quote][p][bold]BmthNewshound[/bold] wrote: Don't know why so many of you have given the thumbs down to the comment from "yet_another_on e" but give the thumbs up to "MrPitiful" who suggests its unreasonable to expect people to travel from Bournemouth to Ringwood to work. . I think this demonstrates the poor work ethic of so many British people who seem to think it is their birth right to be paid a high salary without putting in the effort. I suppose its just easier to sit at home wasting your life away and claiming benefits than getting off your backside and working for a living. .[/p][/quote]I fully agree there is a poor work ethic amongst some of theBritish - and also I would add immigrant - population. Also agree that some obviously prefer to sit at home & claim when they should be working. However, that's not really the point I am making in my post. My point is this - this company is advertising a telesales position based in Ringwood with a basic salary of £16k plus commission, along with a fairly standard set of associated benefits. The company owner is aggrieved because he can't fill the position with a local candidate. Within a reasonable travelling distance of RIngwood, most of the appropriate workforce ( appropriate by way of experience, talent, ability etc) live in Bournemouth/Poole area. This is evident by the number of call centres currently in Bournemouth and Poole. They use the local workforce which includes not just full time call-centre professionals but also part time mums/dads, students etc. These call centres all offer full time salaries, commission and benefits similar to that offered by this company. Now put yourself in this postion. You live in Bournemouth. You are offered 2 jobs. Call centre A, based in Bournemouth offers you £16k, commission & benefits. Call centre B, based in RIngwood, offers you the same. £16k is not the highest salary in the world & petrol for your car is £1.30 a litre. You have rent to pay, kids to support and call centre A is only 5 minutes away in town, whereas Call Centre B is approx 8 miles away, along a road notorious for accidents, delays etc. Which job would you most likely accept? It's not about expecting a high salary for doing the least work, as most folk who work in call centres are more realistic than that. It's about being as financially & time-efficient during hard times, yet at the same time keeping yourself in as stable a job as possible. MrPitiful
  • Score: -1

10:01am Tue 4 Feb 14

nickynoodah says...

Are you saying Ringwood is nearer to Ringwood than Bournemouth is
you should be on Mastermind
or buy a ******* map
Are you saying Ringwood is nearer to Ringwood than Bournemouth is you should be on Mastermind or buy a ******* map nickynoodah
  • Score: -3

11:25am Tue 4 Feb 14

Bournemouthfan2 says...

A lot of the responses on here fill me with despair.
The company is offering quite a way above minimum wage plus extra commission on top and they are stating that it is wrong that they need to look outside of the UK rather than being able to fill the vacancy from the local population.
What do they get in response? A lot of bile and aggression from people telling them to offer a decent wage (huh?) and suggesting the company lacks integrity.
Only a couple of people have questioned the ethics of those that are happy to sit on benefits rather than do a days work and those have all received thumbs down from people disagreeing with the comments.
I remember when I was a young worker, discussing with my work colleagues as to what we would all do if we found ourselves out of work. We all agreed without question that we would do any kind of a job rather than the shame of accepting benefits, this was back in the 80's, how things have changed.
By the responses that have been posted on here, it seems for quite a few of you think benefits have now become a long term right, rather than a short term solution and seem to be an acceptable alternative to taking a job and working for a living.
A lot of the responses on here fill me with despair. The company is offering quite a way above minimum wage plus extra commission on top and they are stating that it is wrong that they need to look outside of the UK rather than being able to fill the vacancy from the local population. What do they get in response? A lot of bile and aggression from people telling them to offer a decent wage (huh?) and suggesting the company lacks integrity. Only a couple of people have questioned the ethics of those that are happy to sit on benefits rather than do a days work and those have all received thumbs down from people disagreeing with the comments. I remember when I was a young worker, discussing with my work colleagues as to what we would all do if we found ourselves out of work. We all agreed without question that we would do any kind of a job rather than the shame of accepting benefits, this was back in the 80's, how things have changed. By the responses that have been posted on here, it seems for quite a few of you think benefits have now become a long term right, rather than a short term solution and seem to be an acceptable alternative to taking a job and working for a living. Bournemouthfan2
  • Score: -2

12:54am Thu 6 Feb 14

SwissArmyKnife says...

Many companies in the South post jobs for Bulgarians/Romanians
/Poles etc at the site posted below...

https://ec.europa.eu
/eures/main.jsp?acro
=job&catId=482

some wages offered are below £110pw some at less than £4ph. The skills and requirements listed for these "jobs" are often excessive, some of the job descriptions run in excess of 1000 words!!! Give it a try and prepare to be shocked and bewildered!
Many companies in the South post jobs for Bulgarians/Romanians /Poles etc at the site posted below... https://ec.europa.eu /eures/main.jsp?acro =job&catId=482 some wages offered are below £110pw some at less than £4ph. The skills and requirements listed for these "jobs" are often excessive, some of the job descriptions run in excess of 1000 words!!! Give it a try and prepare to be shocked and bewildered! SwissArmyKnife
  • Score: 1

10:08am Fri 7 Feb 14

Dorset Logic says...

These people work hard, they are cheap and I can house them in my shed. I don't really care that there is no promotion, pension or any other incentive to stay with the company other than they need next weeks Tesco money, they are two a penny anyway. Its not my problem. Gotta fly busy day at the car dealers. Undecided between silver 5 series or black A6, depends which takes two sets of clubs. My granddad ran a mill on this basis throughout the industrial revolution and I think he went for the 5 series.
These people work hard, they are cheap and I can house them in my shed. I don't really care that there is no promotion, pension or any other incentive to stay with the company other than they need next weeks Tesco money, they are two a penny anyway. Its not my problem. Gotta fly busy day at the car dealers. Undecided between silver 5 series or black A6, depends which takes two sets of clubs. My granddad ran a mill on this basis throughout the industrial revolution and I think he went for the 5 series. Dorset Logic
  • Score: 1

12:36am Sun 9 Feb 14

poshiesymons says...

pay a living wage if you want vacancies filled, but in all honesty no one wants to work in telesales or marketing.....cold calling people on their phones etc ...these people are hated ... thats why no one wants the job.
pay a living wage if you want vacancies filled, but in all honesty no one wants to work in telesales or marketing.....cold calling people on their phones etc ...these people are hated ... thats why no one wants the job. poshiesymons
  • Score: 1

10:59am Sun 9 Feb 14

thisloginprocessisdaft says...

£16k after tax is about £13.7k. From that deduct rent / mortgage, council tax, gas and electric, water, transport, food and other living expenses and you can see why it isn't that attractive to someone living in Bournemouth or Poole.

I'd do it but I'd want at least £20-22k a year plus bonus and I'll tell you why. I'd be good at it and I have a life to live, I'm not going to work just to pay the bills. I'm not being unrealistic, he is with a high pressure job and at best, a basic salary that does not pay.

As countless others have said, Romanians will do it but they'll send the money home and a very high possible chance they'll jump on the benefit train.

I understand that you have to earn your living but business needs to pay to get the staff they want
£16k after tax is about £13.7k. From that deduct rent / mortgage, council tax, gas and electric, water, transport, food and other living expenses and you can see why it isn't that attractive to someone living in Bournemouth or Poole. I'd do it but I'd want at least £20-22k a year plus bonus and I'll tell you why. I'd be good at it and I have a life to live, I'm not going to work just to pay the bills. I'm not being unrealistic, he is with a high pressure job and at best, a basic salary that does not pay. As countless others have said, Romanians will do it but they'll send the money home and a very high possible chance they'll jump on the benefit train. I understand that you have to earn your living but business needs to pay to get the staff they want thisloginprocessisdaft
  • Score: 1

2:12pm Sun 9 Feb 14

Kayzee says...

I can't believe what I am reading here!!! 16k a year is a decent 'entry' level wage for someone who has just left school and needs a job, or someone who has been out of the job market and needs to get back in. You all talk about rent/mortgage/kids etc.... none of this applies if you are 18/19 years old and living at home with mum and dad and looking for work experience and some pocket money to buy a body kit for your ford focus to give it some street cred.

What is wrong with this country is that people expect to start working on 25k a year, and al the associated benefits when they have no experience and no work ethic. I've got a great job now, but on the way up I've worked in KFC, I've been a cleaner, I've been a general office dogsbody all for next to no money but I've never, ever signed on. I'd always take whatever job was on offer to get the experience I needed to trade up to the next one. That ideal no longer exists. It saddens me.
I can't believe what I am reading here!!! 16k a year is a decent 'entry' level wage for someone who has just left school and needs a job, or someone who has been out of the job market and needs to get back in. You all talk about rent/mortgage/kids etc.... none of this applies if you are 18/19 years old and living at home with mum and dad and looking for work experience and some pocket money to buy a body kit for your ford focus to give it some street cred. What is wrong with this country is that people expect to start working on 25k a year, and al the associated benefits when they have no experience and no work ethic. I've got a great job now, but on the way up I've worked in KFC, I've been a cleaner, I've been a general office dogsbody all for next to no money but I've never, ever signed on. I'd always take whatever job was on offer to get the experience I needed to trade up to the next one. That ideal no longer exists. It saddens me. Kayzee
  • Score: 0

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