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UPDATE: Poole council backs transit sites for travellers
Updated 8:40pm Monday 27th January 2014 in News
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- Councillors will be asked to approve the sites at Marshes End, Creekmoor, and land north of the B&Q car park, Broadstone Way at a meeting tonight
- They will also be asked to authorise a planning application to enable the borough to establish these temporary stopping places by the summer.
- The council estimates it will cost £175,000 to construct the site at Marshes End, and up to £70,000 at Broadstone Way.
- Last October Borough of Poole held a summit to try to find solutions to the perceived traveller problem, where it was agreed to explore the transit site option
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The meeting is officially over .
The proposal has been carried with 23 members voting in favour, 12 against and two abstentions.
The members are now voting on the main issue
Cllr Brooke says without a temporary stoping place he council will be "playing cat and mouse" week after week around the borough.
Cllr Mike Brooke says it is very clear that "this council must do something, and do something now." He says the police support the move to have temporary stopping places. "Clearly, doing nothing is not an option."
He says it is probably the worse proposal he's seen since being a councillor.
Cllr Rampton says this is "an insane" proposal. He says crime rate do increase when travellers are in the area.
Many of the people who were asked to wait in the lobby because there wasn't room in the main chamber are still out there.
Members of the public are shouting about fly tipping at the sites over the summer.
Cllr Xena Dion says there was about 400 calls about travellers taken by the council last year, about unauthorised sites.
He says he believes some of the travellers this year came to Poole on their holidays.
But Cllr Clements says Poole residents do not want travellers on the town's recreation grounds, nor at Whitecliff. He says travellers could be moved quickly from public places if the temporary stopping places were backed.
Cllr Brian Clements has called for members of the travelling community to not be stigmatised.
Cllr Atkinson is being heckled by the crowds. She is saying the council must represent all the people of Poole.
Councillors are voting on the amendment
The debate has now returned to the main issue of the evening.
The amendment has not be backed by the council.
Councillors are voting on the amendment
The amendment also calls for the £35,000 funding, that it would cost to maintain the temporary stopping sites annually to be used to protect vulnerable sites in Poole.
This amendment also calls for a delegation from Poole to be appointed to continue negotiations to deliver the required law change to acscertain a shared Dorset-wide transit site.
Councillor John Rampton has tabled an amendment calling for the 'status quo' of gypsy and traveller provision in Poole to be maintained.
Cllr Butt also says if the temporary stoping site was ever full to capacity, the police would not be able to move on any more travellers. She said: 'The funds could be better used.' This was met with loud applause.
She also says he cost to the council tax payer has not been properly scrutinised.
Cllr Butt says she wishes to support the move, but residents she represents says there has been no real consultation on the issue.
He also has called for a full cost analysis of the site to be implemented.
Cllr Rampton has called for meaningful consultation with Poole residents
Cllr John Rampton is speaking.
Cllr White says the Creekmoor site does have low levels of methane contamination, but that council officers maintain this is 'not an issue'.
Cllr says the two sites meet all the requirements, including not being near residential properties. This was met with loud laughter from members of the public gathered.
Deputy leader councillor Mike White is speaking about how the council got to this point, to consider temporary stopping places.
Prayers have been said and minutes of the last council meeting noted.
People are being told they may not address councillors, as this is not a public meeting.
The meeting has just started.
Every vantage point is being used by residents who have turned out for tonight's special meeting:
The meeting should have started more than 10 minutes ago.
About 200 members of the public are here now. There are calls from people to adjourn the meeting, as people are still being asked to leave the main chamber. They're saying the council should have got a bigger room.
Security guards are moving members of the public who have sat in the councillors' seats. Tensions are growing here.
Even the balcony area above the main doors is packed out.
One member of the public has just shouted 'you should have got a bigger room'. It could be a tricky meeting to chair.
Dreaded health and safety apparently.
Members of the public standing at the back of the chamber have been told there is not enough room, and could they go outside to the lobby where chairs have been placed.
We could be looking at more than 150 members of the public in the main chamber now. Ad people are still arriving.
It looks like it is going to be a case of standing room only for members of the public.
Only a few minutes to the start of the meeting. Council leader Elaine Atkinson has just arrived.
Members of the public are queuing to get into the main chamber now. Looks like well over 120 people.
The two public galleries either side of the main chamber are full to capacity. There are around 100 people here now.
Here's a picture of some of the Creekmoor residents who have turned out for the meeting tonight:
Creekmoor ward councillor Judy Butt has arrived in the chamber
A significant number of the people attending are Creekmoor residents.
About 50 members of the public have already arrived for the meeting. The Councillors should arrive in the main chamber in about 10 minutes
Tonight councillors will be asked to approve the sites at Marshes End, Creekmoor, and land north of the B&Q car park, Broadstone Way
While we wait for Jim to begin live coverage from the meeting, here's some background reading for you:
- Public meeting over Poole traveller site attracts nearly 200 residents ahead of crucial council decision
- Calls for consultation with traveller community over Poole transit site
- ‘Ridiculous, unnecessary and damaging’: Plans for travellers site at Creekmoor slammed as decision deferred to emergency meeting
- Revealed: the two transit sites proposed for travellers in Poole – and residents are urged to oppose one
Good evening everyone. Our reporter Jim Durkin will be covering tonight's meeting where members of Poole council will be asked to approve the proposed transit sites for travellers.
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