Stakeholders throw weight behind MDL proposal for new marina at Poole Quay

PLANS: Salterns Marina in Poole. Inset, Robin Culpan and James Sydenham

PLANS: Salterns Marina in Poole. Inset, Robin Culpan and James Sydenham

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TWO Poole Harbour stakeholders have thrown their weight behind the operator of Cobbs Quay’s proposal to build a marina on Poole Quay.

James Sydenham and Robin Culpan are backing MDL’s plans to build a 600-berth marina off Poole Quay as an alternative to the Poole Harbour commissioners’ proposal for a marine centre.

MDL has emerged as the Crown Estate’s preferred bidder in a tender process and the marina operator’s plans include a high level access bridge to a car parking island, allowing fishing boats to pass beneath.

“Business and the future of Poole are on the line here,” said James, general manager of Golden Arrow Marine, a division of Salterns Marina at Lilliput which has 285 berths and 100 swinging moorings.

“There is no requirement for an additional 600 or 1,000 berth marina within Poole now, or for the next 25 years. Business has declined.

“We already have all the yacht clubs, marinas and swinging moorings.

“The council and PHC and operators should embrace the fact that clearly it is that simple to move the majority of Cobbs Quay boats to Poole Quay.

“They are the experts.

“They have a lot of marinas and boatyards.

“We would embrace them absolutely to build that marina on Poole Quay,” he said, adding that Cobbs Quay at Hamworthy could be redeveloped.

Robin Culpan, director of Dorset Lake Shipyard at Hamworthy, which has 46 berths and 100 swing moorings said: “PHC should not be competing against their stakeholders. They should be working with them.”

The Vision for Poole Group of four environmental associations has held meetings with MDL, PHC and the Crown Estate.

“The Vision for Poole Group and our supporting stakeholders will continue to fight to protect Poole Bay and ensure the environmental and visual impact of any development is acceptable to the community,” said spokesman Terry Stewart.

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1:44pm Mon 20 Jan 14

adspacebroker says...

“PHC should not be competing against their stakeholders. They should be working with them.”....absolute
ly. My son has had a berth in Torbay Harbour for many years and I thoroughly enjoy the boat experience. He mentioned he can't understand what PHC are trying to achieve and should look at what Torbay Harbour Authority do. They have 2 MDL marinas in their jurisdiction who pay rent and manage excellent marina facilities. Torbay Harbour has it's own berths with minimal facilities and a length restriction (Mainly for locals) but there is no conflict, it is all well run and THA sit back and get their rent! So it makes simple sense for PHC to manage the harbour as a landlord and let the experts manage the marinas
“PHC should not be competing against their stakeholders. They should be working with them.”....absolute ly. My son has had a berth in Torbay Harbour for many years and I thoroughly enjoy the boat experience. He mentioned he can't understand what PHC are trying to achieve and should look at what Torbay Harbour Authority do. They have 2 MDL marinas in their jurisdiction who pay rent and manage excellent marina facilities. Torbay Harbour has it's own berths with minimal facilities and a length restriction (Mainly for locals) but there is no conflict, it is all well run and THA sit back and get their rent! So it makes simple sense for PHC to manage the harbour as a landlord and let the experts manage the marinas adspacebroker
  • Score: -7

3:03pm Mon 20 Jan 14

Red Leader 1 says...

It should be made clear that the stakeholders of Poole Harbour are the whole community not just the businesses which derive their profits from it.

PHC already operate two successful marinas, one at the Quay and one in the disused ferry berth. The proceeds from these and all their other commercial operations are ploughed back into funding the upkeep of Poole Harbour in the interests of all "stakeholders".
It should be made clear that the stakeholders of Poole Harbour are the whole community not just the businesses which derive their profits from it. PHC already operate two successful marinas, one at the Quay and one in the disused ferry berth. The proceeds from these and all their other commercial operations are ploughed back into funding the upkeep of Poole Harbour in the interests of all "stakeholders". Red Leader 1
  • Score: 8

4:01pm Mon 20 Jan 14

SeafaringMan says...

As my own mooring is on the river Frome I have no particular axe to grind here. However the logic of reducing the number of berths 'above bridges' and thereby reducing the amount of bridge transits seems impeccable, particularly now there two bridges to negotiate.
As my own mooring is on the river Frome I have no particular axe to grind here. However the logic of reducing the number of berths 'above bridges' and thereby reducing the amount of bridge transits seems impeccable, particularly now there two bridges to negotiate. SeafaringMan
  • Score: -5

7:49pm Mon 20 Jan 14

ashleycross says...

So the Crown Estate needs to choose between a thriving responsible commercial marina operator and an organisation that seems to be running what should be a bustling high turnover operation on Poole Quay along the lines permission was given for it, but instead runs it as a long term storage area. The result has been a failure to fill the development opposite on the Quay so that the area is so run down tesco needs a security guard. No contest so hopefully the Crown Estate will see through and brush aside all the hysterical squawking and stick with MDL. Cobbs Quay is great, a real asset to the town with great facilities and employing loads of people, the marina on the quay is a white elephant shambles.
So the Crown Estate needs to choose between a thriving responsible commercial marina operator and an organisation that seems to be running what should be a bustling high turnover operation on Poole Quay along the lines permission was given for it, but instead runs it as a long term storage area. The result has been a failure to fill the development opposite on the Quay so that the area is so run down tesco needs a security guard. No contest so hopefully the Crown Estate will see through and brush aside all the hysterical squawking and stick with MDL. Cobbs Quay is great, a real asset to the town with great facilities and employing loads of people, the marina on the quay is a white elephant shambles. ashleycross
  • Score: -2

10:11pm Mon 20 Jan 14

gameon says...

MDLs plans are to build a marina village at Cobbs the same as there one at Hythe That is why they want to Build the New Marina on the quay
MDLs plans are to build a marina village at Cobbs the same as there one at Hythe That is why they want to Build the New Marina on the quay gameon
  • Score: -1

8:12am Tue 21 Jan 14

Reginald Coker says...

Ahhh! Now there's a thing, if a marina was built in the harbour a few years ago, all the "tall" boats in Cobb's etc., could have been moved to the harbour then we wouldn't have needed Twin Bridges! Hindsight, I think not.
Ahhh! Now there's a thing, if a marina was built in the harbour a few years ago, all the "tall" boats in Cobb's etc., could have been moved to the harbour then we wouldn't have needed Twin Bridges! Hindsight, I think not. Reginald Coker
  • Score: 0

4:16pm Tue 21 Jan 14

dmaber says...

The people of Poole have not been consulted over this plan, no one who I have spoken too are in favour of another marina on the quay, a public meeting should be held before anyone even considers this proposal, after all its the people of Poole who are the majority stakeholders.
The people of Poole have not been consulted over this plan, no one who I have spoken too are in favour of another marina on the quay, a public meeting should be held before anyone even considers this proposal, after all its the people of Poole who are the majority stakeholders. dmaber
  • Score: 3

5:12pm Tue 21 Jan 14

Ebb Tide says...

adspacebroker wrote:
“PHC should not be competing against their stakeholders. They should be working with them.”....absolute

ly. My son has had a berth in Torbay Harbour for many years and I thoroughly enjoy the boat experience. He mentioned he can't understand what PHC are trying to achieve and should look at what Torbay Harbour Authority do. They have 2 MDL marinas in their jurisdiction who pay rent and manage excellent marina facilities. Torbay Harbour has it's own berths with minimal facilities and a length restriction (Mainly for locals) but there is no conflict, it is all well run and THA sit back and get their rent! So it makes simple sense for PHC to manage the harbour as a landlord and let the experts manage the marinas
The Commissioners of the Crown Estate have the 'landlord' role - as owners of the harbour bed ! Most of their proceeds go to HM Treasury that is searching for money : money perhaps to ensure that bankers bonuses (now increased salaries) can be paid or possibly to repair the damage that they allowed to happen to our financial systems. We are all really in it !!

It will be a real test of all the protection and restoration measures for our harbour now that the smell of increased 'proceeds' has been scented.
[quote][p][bold]adspacebroker[/bold] wrote: “PHC should not be competing against their stakeholders. They should be working with them.”....absolute ly. My son has had a berth in Torbay Harbour for many years and I thoroughly enjoy the boat experience. He mentioned he can't understand what PHC are trying to achieve and should look at what Torbay Harbour Authority do. They have 2 MDL marinas in their jurisdiction who pay rent and manage excellent marina facilities. Torbay Harbour has it's own berths with minimal facilities and a length restriction (Mainly for locals) but there is no conflict, it is all well run and THA sit back and get their rent! So it makes simple sense for PHC to manage the harbour as a landlord and let the experts manage the marinas[/p][/quote]The Commissioners of the Crown Estate have the 'landlord' role - as owners of the harbour bed ! Most of their proceeds go to HM Treasury that is searching for money : money perhaps to ensure that bankers bonuses (now increased salaries) can be paid or possibly to repair the damage that they allowed to happen to our financial systems. We are all really in it !! It will be a real test of all the protection and restoration measures for our harbour now that the smell of increased 'proceeds' has been scented. Ebb Tide
  • Score: 4

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