Community order for woman who downloaded indecent images of children

Bournemouth Echo: REGISTER: Davina Ayrton arrives at Bournemouth Crown Court REGISTER: Davina Ayrton arrives at Bournemouth Crown Court

A WOMAN with mental health issues who downloaded thousands of indecent images of children was given a community order yesterday.

Bournemouth Crown Court heard that Davina Ayrton, who was born David Ayrton, admitted possessing nearly 4,500 images graded level one – nude poses with no sexual activity – at the residential home in Fordingbridge where she lived in March last year.

Among the images the 32-year-old had downloaded, which featured children aged between three and 14 years old, was one rated level four, the second most serious category.

Prosecutor Heather Shimmen said: “The defendant is subject to a mental health order and is restricted to a residential care home for people with learning difficulties and mental health issues.

“Part of her care plan is that her use of electrical devices and mobile phones is monitored by staff. During one of these checks the home manager came across the images which caused her concern and she contacted the police.”

Judge Harrow was shown examples of the images and the 32-year-old’s Google search history, as well as a psychiatric report.

He imposed a three-year community order with supervision and a sexual offences prevention order with various conditions, including police monitoring of her computer and phone.

He said Ayrton, who had no similar offences to her name but a conviction for arson in 2007, had been “quite clever” in downloading the images while under supervision.

“With one exception they were all in the very lowest category of these images, which the courts unfortunately have to consider. This does not suggest a prison sentence. This is a serious case and a vile deed.

“People make money out of creating these images, which have a devastating effect on these children. It is easy for someone thousands of miles away to feel remote, but there are victims who suffer, and people like you are feeding this vicious trade,” he said.

Ayrton was ordered to sign the sex offenders register for five years, and to pay a £60 victim surcharge.

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10:14am Sat 18 Jan 14

hooplaa says...

What a joke!!

She will still have access to mobile phones i expect, done it once and she will do it again!
What a joke!! She will still have access to mobile phones i expect, done it once and she will do it again! hooplaa

10:21am Sat 18 Jan 14

retry69 says...

Oh dear,oh dear where do we start with this one ?
Oh dear,oh dear where do we start with this one ? retry69

10:54am Sat 18 Jan 14

MMM444 says...

retry69 wrote:
Oh dear,oh dear where do we start with this one ?
Good Question, If you do find a start, finding an end may be the problem
[quote][p][bold]retry69[/bold] wrote: Oh dear,oh dear where do we start with this one ?[/p][/quote]Good Question, If you do find a start, finding an end may be the problem MMM444

10:56am Sat 18 Jan 14

MMM444 says...

Something dont ring right here
Something dont ring right here MMM444

11:21am Sat 18 Jan 14

retry69 says...

MMM444 wrote:
retry69 wrote:
Oh dear,oh dear where do we start with this one ?
Good Question, If you do find a start, finding an end may be the problem
Ok lets have a go,two separate issues here to me, one the sentence and two the seriousness of the perverted crime.There is no link as the punishment does not reflect the crime (no surprise there then).The fact that it states that Aryton had been "quite clever" in downloading the images while under supervision is probably a better indication of her mental health than any report.Ive started you finish it.
[quote][p][bold]MMM444[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]retry69[/bold] wrote: Oh dear,oh dear where do we start with this one ?[/p][/quote]Good Question, If you do find a start, finding an end may be the problem[/p][/quote]Ok lets have a go,two separate issues here to me, one the sentence and two the seriousness of the perverted crime.There is no link as the punishment does not reflect the crime (no surprise there then).The fact that it states that Aryton had been "quite clever" in downloading the images while under supervision is probably a better indication of her mental health than any report.Ive started you finish it. retry69

11:36am Sat 18 Jan 14

sarahlt says...

Where is the protection for children these days ? What a joke
Where is the protection for children these days ? What a joke sarahlt

12:11pm Sat 18 Jan 14

John T says...

retry69 wrote:
MMM444 wrote:
retry69 wrote:
Oh dear,oh dear where do we start with this one ?
Good Question, If you do find a start, finding an end may be the problem
Ok lets have a go,two separate issues here to me, one the sentence and two the seriousness of the perverted crime.There is no link as the punishment does not reflect the crime (no surprise there then).The fact that it states that Aryton had been "quite clever" in downloading the images while under supervision is probably a better indication of her mental health than any report.Ive started you finish it.
I think you will find that MMM444 was looking for something that may stick out. What a joke! (to quote previous comments).
[quote][p][bold]retry69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MMM444[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]retry69[/bold] wrote: Oh dear,oh dear where do we start with this one ?[/p][/quote]Good Question, If you do find a start, finding an end may be the problem[/p][/quote]Ok lets have a go,two separate issues here to me, one the sentence and two the seriousness of the perverted crime.There is no link as the punishment does not reflect the crime (no surprise there then).The fact that it states that Aryton had been "quite clever" in downloading the images while under supervision is probably a better indication of her mental health than any report.Ive started you finish it.[/p][/quote]I think you will find that MMM444 was looking for something that may stick out. What a joke! (to quote previous comments). John T

12:20pm Sat 18 Jan 14

retry69 says...

John T wrote:
retry69 wrote:
MMM444 wrote:
retry69 wrote:
Oh dear,oh dear where do we start with this one ?
Good Question, If you do find a start, finding an end may be the problem
Ok lets have a go,two separate issues here to me, one the sentence and two the seriousness of the perverted crime.There is no link as the punishment does not reflect the crime (no surprise there then).The fact that it states that Aryton had been "quite clever" in downloading the images while under supervision is probably a better indication of her mental health than any report.Ive started you finish it.
I think you will find that MMM444 was looking for something that may stick out. What a joke! (to quote previous comments).
Yeah yeah I got the innuendos thanks but im taking a serious approach to this topic
[quote][p][bold]John T[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]retry69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MMM444[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]retry69[/bold] wrote: Oh dear,oh dear where do we start with this one ?[/p][/quote]Good Question, If you do find a start, finding an end may be the problem[/p][/quote]Ok lets have a go,two separate issues here to me, one the sentence and two the seriousness of the perverted crime.There is no link as the punishment does not reflect the crime (no surprise there then).The fact that it states that Aryton had been "quite clever" in downloading the images while under supervision is probably a better indication of her mental health than any report.Ive started you finish it.[/p][/quote]I think you will find that MMM444 was looking for something that may stick out. What a joke! (to quote previous comments).[/p][/quote]Yeah yeah I got the innuendos thanks but im taking a serious approach to this topic retry69

12:32pm Sat 18 Jan 14

kalebmoledirt says...

Did this person have mental health issues prior to some surgeon performing a sex change.or have they developed after the op.What the massive life change as produced is a very dangerous criminal that is way behond psychology.find the medical authorities that carried out the operation and hand the person back to them to care for monster they have created
Did this person have mental health issues prior to some surgeon performing a sex change.or have they developed after the op.What the massive life change as produced is a very dangerous criminal that is way behond psychology.find the medical authorities that carried out the operation and hand the person back to them to care for monster they have created kalebmoledirt

1:06pm Sat 18 Jan 14

John T says...

retry69 wrote:
John T wrote:
retry69 wrote:
MMM444 wrote:
retry69 wrote:
Oh dear,oh dear where do we start with this one ?
Good Question, If you do find a start, finding an end may be the problem
Ok lets have a go,two separate issues here to me, one the sentence and two the seriousness of the perverted crime.There is no link as the punishment does not reflect the crime (no surprise there then).The fact that it states that Aryton had been "quite clever" in downloading the images while under supervision is probably a better indication of her mental health than any report.Ive started you finish it.
I think you will find that MMM444 was looking for something that may stick out. What a joke! (to quote previous comments).
Yeah yeah I got the innuendos thanks but im taking a serious approach to this topic
Well, I guess anybody can be ambivalent on a subject like this, retry 69?
[quote][p][bold]retry69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]John T[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]retry69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MMM444[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]retry69[/bold] wrote: Oh dear,oh dear where do we start with this one ?[/p][/quote]Good Question, If you do find a start, finding an end may be the problem[/p][/quote]Ok lets have a go,two separate issues here to me, one the sentence and two the seriousness of the perverted crime.There is no link as the punishment does not reflect the crime (no surprise there then).The fact that it states that Aryton had been "quite clever" in downloading the images while under supervision is probably a better indication of her mental health than any report.Ive started you finish it.[/p][/quote]I think you will find that MMM444 was looking for something that may stick out. What a joke! (to quote previous comments).[/p][/quote]Yeah yeah I got the innuendos thanks but im taking a serious approach to this topic[/p][/quote]Well, I guess anybody can be ambivalent on a subject like this, retry 69? John T

1:14pm Sat 18 Jan 14

kalebmoledirt says...

John T wrote:
retry69 wrote:
John T wrote:
retry69 wrote:
MMM444 wrote:
retry69 wrote:
Oh dear,oh dear where do we start with this one ?
Good Question, If you do find a start, finding an end may be the problem
Ok lets have a go,two separate issues here to me, one the sentence and two the seriousness of the perverted crime.There is no link as the punishment does not reflect the crime (no surprise there then).The fact that it states that Aryton had been "quite clever" in downloading the images while under supervision is probably a better indication of her mental health than any report.Ive started you finish it.
I think you will find that MMM444 was looking for something that may stick out. What a joke! (to quote previous comments).
Yeah yeah I got the innuendos thanks but im taking a serious approach to this topic
Well, I guess anybody can be ambivalent on a subject like this, retry 69?
Put your hand bags down ladies save it for when everyone's bored with story
[quote][p][bold]John T[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]retry69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]John T[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]retry69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MMM444[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]retry69[/bold] wrote: Oh dear,oh dear where do we start with this one ?[/p][/quote]Good Question, If you do find a start, finding an end may be the problem[/p][/quote]Ok lets have a go,two separate issues here to me, one the sentence and two the seriousness of the perverted crime.There is no link as the punishment does not reflect the crime (no surprise there then).The fact that it states that Aryton had been "quite clever" in downloading the images while under supervision is probably a better indication of her mental health than any report.Ive started you finish it.[/p][/quote]I think you will find that MMM444 was looking for something that may stick out. What a joke! (to quote previous comments).[/p][/quote]Yeah yeah I got the innuendos thanks but im taking a serious approach to this topic[/p][/quote]Well, I guess anybody can be ambivalent on a subject like this, retry 69?[/p][/quote]Put your hand bags down ladies save it for when everyone's bored with story kalebmoledirt

1:22pm Sat 18 Jan 14

retry69 says...

John T wrote:
retry69 wrote:
John T wrote:
retry69 wrote:
MMM444 wrote:
retry69 wrote:
Oh dear,oh dear where do we start with this one ?
Good Question, If you do find a start, finding an end may be the problem
Ok lets have a go,two separate issues here to me, one the sentence and two the seriousness of the perverted crime.There is no link as the punishment does not reflect the crime (no surprise there then).The fact that it states that Aryton had been "quite clever" in downloading the images while under supervision is probably a better indication of her mental health than any report.Ive started you finish it.
I think you will find that MMM444 was looking for something that may stick out. What a joke! (to quote previous comments).
Yeah yeah I got the innuendos thanks but im taking a serious approach to this topic
Well, I guess anybody can be ambivalent on a subject like this, retry 69?
ambivalent? is that friendly or not , need to look that up,get back to you,and there is no space in my username mmmmm
[quote][p][bold]John T[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]retry69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]John T[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]retry69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MMM444[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]retry69[/bold] wrote: Oh dear,oh dear where do we start with this one ?[/p][/quote]Good Question, If you do find a start, finding an end may be the problem[/p][/quote]Ok lets have a go,two separate issues here to me, one the sentence and two the seriousness of the perverted crime.There is no link as the punishment does not reflect the crime (no surprise there then).The fact that it states that Aryton had been "quite clever" in downloading the images while under supervision is probably a better indication of her mental health than any report.Ive started you finish it.[/p][/quote]I think you will find that MMM444 was looking for something that may stick out. What a joke! (to quote previous comments).[/p][/quote]Yeah yeah I got the innuendos thanks but im taking a serious approach to this topic[/p][/quote]Well, I guess anybody can be ambivalent on a subject like this, retry 69?[/p][/quote]ambivalent? is that friendly or not , need to look that up,get back to you,and there is no space in my username mmmmm retry69

1:22pm Sat 18 Jan 14

davidhaz says...

For a start if someone is born a man they are a man. The fact that the echo calls him a woman is just more proof that the echo is run by typical pc bias leftwing media types. At the end of the day some things come out of the factory broken and this guy is def broken to say the least! Whats wrong is how we as a society deal them. What possible good can someone like this be for society? None. I couldn't care less if someone is gay or not. What people do in there own homes is up to them. But Doctors changing someones sex is just wrong. Its like telling the mad man that the 10ft bunny rabit standing next to him is real rather than trying to treat the illness thats causing the hallucination. It's wrong! As for him being a pedo again we dealing with these people in the wrong way. How can they ever be trusted to walk among us? There should be capital punishment for these deviants. Lethal injection is about as humane a treatment as they deserve. Lets stop treating them like patients in a hospital that deserve our sympathy. They a broken people that we can't fix. End of.
For a start if someone is born a man they are a man. The fact that the echo calls him a woman is just more proof that the echo is run by typical pc bias leftwing media types. At the end of the day some things come out of the factory broken and this guy is def broken to say the least! Whats wrong is how we as a society deal them. What possible good can someone like this be for society? None. I couldn't care less if someone is gay or not. What people do in there own homes is up to them. But Doctors changing someones sex is just wrong. Its like telling the mad man that the 10ft bunny rabit standing next to him is real rather than trying to treat the illness thats causing the hallucination. It's wrong! As for him being a pedo again we dealing with these people in the wrong way. How can they ever be trusted to walk among us? There should be capital punishment for these deviants. Lethal injection is about as humane a treatment as they deserve. Lets stop treating them like patients in a hospital that deserve our sympathy. They a broken people that we can't fix. End of. davidhaz

1:28pm Sat 18 Jan 14

retry69 says...

John T wrote:
retry69 wrote:
John T wrote:
retry69 wrote:
MMM444 wrote:
retry69 wrote:
Oh dear,oh dear where do we start with this one ?
Good Question, If you do find a start, finding an end may be the problem
Ok lets have a go,two separate issues here to me, one the sentence and two the seriousness of the perverted crime.There is no link as the punishment does not reflect the crime (no surprise there then).The fact that it states that Aryton had been "quite clever" in downloading the images while under supervision is probably a better indication of her mental health than any report.Ive started you finish it.
I think you will find that MMM444 was looking for something that may stick out. What a joke! (to quote previous comments).
Yeah yeah I got the innuendos thanks but im taking a serious approach to this topic
Well, I guess anybody can be ambivalent on a subject like this, retry 69?
I make no apologies for this but each time I go back to the comments and scroll down, as the picture runs past I am seeing a man and not a woman.In fact I would go as far to say I could look more of a woman than he uh she does,See I tried to be serious and now look what you've done its all gone out the window
[quote][p][bold]John T[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]retry69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]John T[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]retry69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MMM444[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]retry69[/bold] wrote: Oh dear,oh dear where do we start with this one ?[/p][/quote]Good Question, If you do find a start, finding an end may be the problem[/p][/quote]Ok lets have a go,two separate issues here to me, one the sentence and two the seriousness of the perverted crime.There is no link as the punishment does not reflect the crime (no surprise there then).The fact that it states that Aryton had been "quite clever" in downloading the images while under supervision is probably a better indication of her mental health than any report.Ive started you finish it.[/p][/quote]I think you will find that MMM444 was looking for something that may stick out. What a joke! (to quote previous comments).[/p][/quote]Yeah yeah I got the innuendos thanks but im taking a serious approach to this topic[/p][/quote]Well, I guess anybody can be ambivalent on a subject like this, retry 69?[/p][/quote]I make no apologies for this but each time I go back to the comments and scroll down, as the picture runs past I am seeing a man and not a woman.In fact I would go as far to say I could look more of a woman than he uh she does,See I tried to be serious and now look what you've done its all gone out the window retry69

1:29pm Sat 18 Jan 14

Phixer says...

sarahlt wrote:
Where is the protection for children these days ? What a joke
You won't get any protection for our children from our judiciary. Who checks their computers for images?
[quote][p][bold]sarahlt[/bold] wrote: Where is the protection for children these days ? What a joke[/p][/quote]You won't get any protection for our children from our judiciary. Who checks their computers for images? Phixer

1:32pm Sat 18 Jan 14

kalebmoledirt says...

davidhaz wrote:
For a start if someone is born a man they are a man. The fact that the echo calls him a woman is just more proof that the echo is run by typical pc bias leftwing media types. At the end of the day some things come out of the factory broken and this guy is def broken to say the least! Whats wrong is how we as a society deal them. What possible good can someone like this be for society? None. I couldn't care less if someone is gay or not. What people do in there own homes is up to them. But Doctors changing someones sex is just wrong. Its like telling the mad man that the 10ft bunny rabit standing next to him is real rather than trying to treat the illness thats causing the hallucination. It's wrong! As for him being a pedo again we dealing with these people in the wrong way. How can they ever be trusted to walk among us? There should be capital punishment for these deviants. Lethal injection is about as humane a treatment as they deserve. Lets stop treating them like patients in a hospital that deserve our sympathy. They a broken people that we can't fix. End of.
You could bore him to death with your cruel misguided philosophy
[quote][p][bold]davidhaz[/bold] wrote: For a start if someone is born a man they are a man. The fact that the echo calls him a woman is just more proof that the echo is run by typical pc bias leftwing media types. At the end of the day some things come out of the factory broken and this guy is def broken to say the least! Whats wrong is how we as a society deal them. What possible good can someone like this be for society? None. I couldn't care less if someone is gay or not. What people do in there own homes is up to them. But Doctors changing someones sex is just wrong. Its like telling the mad man that the 10ft bunny rabit standing next to him is real rather than trying to treat the illness thats causing the hallucination. It's wrong! As for him being a pedo again we dealing with these people in the wrong way. How can they ever be trusted to walk among us? There should be capital punishment for these deviants. Lethal injection is about as humane a treatment as they deserve. Lets stop treating them like patients in a hospital that deserve our sympathy. They a broken people that we can't fix. End of.[/p][/quote]You could bore him to death with your cruel misguided philosophy kalebmoledirt

1:36pm Sat 18 Jan 14

kalebmoledirt says...

davidhaz wrote:
For a start if someone is born a man they are a man. The fact that the echo calls him a woman is just more proof that the echo is run by typical pc bias leftwing media types. At the end of the day some things come out of the factory broken and this guy is def broken to say the least! Whats wrong is how we as a society deal them. What possible good can someone like this be for society? None. I couldn't care less if someone is gay or not. What people do in there own homes is up to them. But Doctors changing someones sex is just wrong. Its like telling the mad man that the 10ft bunny rabit standing next to him is real rather than trying to treat the illness thats causing the hallucination. It's wrong! As for him being a pedo again we dealing with these people in the wrong way. How can they ever be trusted to walk among us? There should be capital punishment for these deviants. Lethal injection is about as humane a treatment as they deserve. Lets stop treating them like patients in a hospital that deserve our sympathy. They a broken people that we can't fix. End of.
You could bore him to death with your cruel misguided philosophy
[quote][p][bold]davidhaz[/bold] wrote: For a start if someone is born a man they are a man. The fact that the echo calls him a woman is just more proof that the echo is run by typical pc bias leftwing media types. At the end of the day some things come out of the factory broken and this guy is def broken to say the least! Whats wrong is how we as a society deal them. What possible good can someone like this be for society? None. I couldn't care less if someone is gay or not. What people do in there own homes is up to them. But Doctors changing someones sex is just wrong. Its like telling the mad man that the 10ft bunny rabit standing next to him is real rather than trying to treat the illness thats causing the hallucination. It's wrong! As for him being a pedo again we dealing with these people in the wrong way. How can they ever be trusted to walk among us? There should be capital punishment for these deviants. Lethal injection is about as humane a treatment as they deserve. Lets stop treating them like patients in a hospital that deserve our sympathy. They a broken people that we can't fix. End of.[/p][/quote]You could bore him to death with your cruel misguided philosophy kalebmoledirt

1:40pm Sat 18 Jan 14

kalebmoledirt says...

retry69 wrote:
John T wrote:
retry69 wrote:
John T wrote:
retry69 wrote:
MMM444 wrote:
retry69 wrote:
Oh dear,oh dear where do we start with this one ?
Good Question, If you do find a start, finding an end may be the problem
Ok lets have a go,two separate issues here to me, one the sentence and two the seriousness of the perverted crime.There is no link as the punishment does not reflect the crime (no surprise there then).The fact that it states that Aryton had been "quite clever" in downloading the images while under supervision is probably a better indication of her mental health than any report.Ive started you finish it.
I think you will find that MMM444 was looking for something that may stick out. What a joke! (to quote previous comments).
Yeah yeah I got the innuendos thanks but im taking a serious approach to this topic
Well, I guess anybody can be ambivalent on a subject like this, retry 69?
I make no apologies for this but each time I go back to the comments and scroll down, as the picture runs past I am seeing a man and not a woman.In fact I would go as far to say I could look more of a woman than he uh she does,See I tried to be serious and now look what you've done its all gone out the window
Post a picture we,'ll let you know
[quote][p][bold]retry69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]John T[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]retry69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]John T[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]retry69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MMM444[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]retry69[/bold] wrote: Oh dear,oh dear where do we start with this one ?[/p][/quote]Good Question, If you do find a start, finding an end may be the problem[/p][/quote]Ok lets have a go,two separate issues here to me, one the sentence and two the seriousness of the perverted crime.There is no link as the punishment does not reflect the crime (no surprise there then).The fact that it states that Aryton had been "quite clever" in downloading the images while under supervision is probably a better indication of her mental health than any report.Ive started you finish it.[/p][/quote]I think you will find that MMM444 was looking for something that may stick out. What a joke! (to quote previous comments).[/p][/quote]Yeah yeah I got the innuendos thanks but im taking a serious approach to this topic[/p][/quote]Well, I guess anybody can be ambivalent on a subject like this, retry 69?[/p][/quote]I make no apologies for this but each time I go back to the comments and scroll down, as the picture runs past I am seeing a man and not a woman.In fact I would go as far to say I could look more of a woman than he uh she does,See I tried to be serious and now look what you've done its all gone out the window[/p][/quote]Post a picture we,'ll let you know kalebmoledirt

1:43pm Sat 18 Jan 14

MMM444 says...

retry69 wrote:
MMM444 wrote:
retry69 wrote:
Oh dear,oh dear where do we start with this one ?
Good Question, If you do find a start, finding an end may be the problem
Ok lets have a go,two separate issues here to me, one the sentence and two the seriousness of the perverted crime.There is no link as the punishment does not reflect the crime (no surprise there then).The fact that it states that Aryton had been "quite clever" in downloading the images while under supervision is probably a better indication of her mental health than any report.Ive started you finish it.
Sorry, you started it, you finish it
[quote][p][bold]retry69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MMM444[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]retry69[/bold] wrote: Oh dear,oh dear where do we start with this one ?[/p][/quote]Good Question, If you do find a start, finding an end may be the problem[/p][/quote]Ok lets have a go,two separate issues here to me, one the sentence and two the seriousness of the perverted crime.There is no link as the punishment does not reflect the crime (no surprise there then).The fact that it states that Aryton had been "quite clever" in downloading the images while under supervision is probably a better indication of her mental health than any report.Ive started you finish it.[/p][/quote]Sorry, you started it, you finish it MMM444

2:01pm Sat 18 Jan 14

retry69 says...

MMM444 wrote:
retry69 wrote:
MMM444 wrote:
retry69 wrote:
Oh dear,oh dear where do we start with this one ?
Good Question, If you do find a start, finding an end may be the problem
Ok lets have a go,two separate issues here to me, one the sentence and two the seriousness of the perverted crime.There is no link as the punishment does not reflect the crime (no surprise there then).The fact that it states that Aryton had been "quite clever" in downloading the images while under supervision is probably a better indication of her mental health than any report.Ive started you finish it.
Sorry, you started it, you finish it
Thanks a bunch
[quote][p][bold]MMM444[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]retry69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MMM444[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]retry69[/bold] wrote: Oh dear,oh dear where do we start with this one ?[/p][/quote]Good Question, If you do find a start, finding an end may be the problem[/p][/quote]Ok lets have a go,two separate issues here to me, one the sentence and two the seriousness of the perverted crime.There is no link as the punishment does not reflect the crime (no surprise there then).The fact that it states that Aryton had been "quite clever" in downloading the images while under supervision is probably a better indication of her mental health than any report.Ive started you finish it.[/p][/quote]Sorry, you started it, you finish it[/p][/quote]Thanks a bunch retry69

2:01pm Sat 18 Jan 14

retry69 says...

MMM444 wrote:
retry69 wrote:
MMM444 wrote:
retry69 wrote:
Oh dear,oh dear where do we start with this one ?
Good Question, If you do find a start, finding an end may be the problem
Ok lets have a go,two separate issues here to me, one the sentence and two the seriousness of the perverted crime.There is no link as the punishment does not reflect the crime (no surprise there then).The fact that it states that Aryton had been "quite clever" in downloading the images while under supervision is probably a better indication of her mental health than any report.Ive started you finish it.
Sorry, you started it, you finish it
Thanks a bunch
[quote][p][bold]MMM444[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]retry69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MMM444[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]retry69[/bold] wrote: Oh dear,oh dear where do we start with this one ?[/p][/quote]Good Question, If you do find a start, finding an end may be the problem[/p][/quote]Ok lets have a go,two separate issues here to me, one the sentence and two the seriousness of the perverted crime.There is no link as the punishment does not reflect the crime (no surprise there then).The fact that it states that Aryton had been "quite clever" in downloading the images while under supervision is probably a better indication of her mental health than any report.Ive started you finish it.[/p][/quote]Sorry, you started it, you finish it[/p][/quote]Thanks a bunch retry69

3:17pm Sat 18 Jan 14

rudestickers says...

I think ANYONE that downloads indecent images of children should be locked up. Too many times we read that these perverts are cautioned etc; Get them off our streets and put childrens safety before anything else. This country seems incapable of child protection despite all it's promises and BS,
I think ANYONE that downloads indecent images of children should be locked up. Too many times we read that these perverts are cautioned etc; Get them off our streets and put childrens safety before anything else. This country seems incapable of child protection despite all it's promises and BS, rudestickers

3:28pm Sat 18 Jan 14

Tripod says...

My question is why wasn't there any form of "parental" control on internet access?
If you take-out any form of internet connection (including a mobile phone) access is generally restricted until the bill payer has provided proof of age (etc.), how can someone with mental health problems, under a mental health order, living in a residential home get unrestricted access?
My question is why wasn't there any form of "parental" control on internet access? If you take-out any form of internet connection (including a mobile phone) access is generally restricted until the bill payer has provided proof of age (etc.), how can someone with mental health problems, under a mental health order, living in a residential home get unrestricted access? Tripod

3:42pm Sat 18 Jan 14

muscliffman says...

davidhaz wrote:
For a start if someone is born a man they are a man. The fact that the echo calls him a woman is just more proof that the echo is run by typical pc bias leftwing media types. At the end of the day some things come out of the factory broken and this guy is def broken to say the least! Whats wrong is how we as a society deal them. What possible good can someone like this be for society? None. I couldn't care less if someone is gay or not. What people do in there own homes is up to them. But Doctors changing someones sex is just wrong. Its like telling the mad man that the 10ft bunny rabit standing next to him is real rather than trying to treat the illness thats causing the hallucination. It's wrong! As for him being a pedo again we dealing with these people in the wrong way. How can they ever be trusted to walk among us? There should be capital punishment for these deviants. Lethal injection is about as humane a treatment as they deserve. Lets stop treating them like patients in a hospital that deserve our sympathy. They a broken people that we can't fix. End of.
Presumably you apply your same appalling and here quite inappropriate logic about sexual identity error to all the other 'broken people' brought into the world! E.G. The disabled, blind, deaf, deformed, diseased. Mankind being a compassionate species with some intelligence tries it's best to fix 'broken people', whatever their natural defect may be. How can this be wrong?
My biology knowledge may be a little rusty these days but I seem to recall that all mammals are conceived as one sex, female - hence males also having nipples. It is only in later pre-birth development that some babies become male, so in our early stages Mother Nature changes the sex of around 50% of us - and sometimes she gets it a bit wrong.
The person concerned in this matter clearly has serious mental health issues on top of and/or arising from their sexual identity confusion but as an individual they did commit a very nasty crime - so no excuses. But there is also no excuse whatsoever for comprehensively damning every decent person who has been through a, I am sure pretty harrowing but usually successful, sexual identity reassignment.
[quote][p][bold]davidhaz[/bold] wrote: For a start if someone is born a man they are a man. The fact that the echo calls him a woman is just more proof that the echo is run by typical pc bias leftwing media types. At the end of the day some things come out of the factory broken and this guy is def broken to say the least! Whats wrong is how we as a society deal them. What possible good can someone like this be for society? None. I couldn't care less if someone is gay or not. What people do in there own homes is up to them. But Doctors changing someones sex is just wrong. Its like telling the mad man that the 10ft bunny rabit standing next to him is real rather than trying to treat the illness thats causing the hallucination. It's wrong! As for him being a pedo again we dealing with these people in the wrong way. How can they ever be trusted to walk among us? There should be capital punishment for these deviants. Lethal injection is about as humane a treatment as they deserve. Lets stop treating them like patients in a hospital that deserve our sympathy. They a broken people that we can't fix. End of.[/p][/quote]Presumably you apply your same appalling and here quite inappropriate logic about sexual identity error to all the other 'broken people' brought into the world! E.G. The disabled, blind, deaf, deformed, diseased. Mankind being a compassionate species with some intelligence tries it's best to fix 'broken people', whatever their natural defect may be. How can this be wrong? My biology knowledge may be a little rusty these days but I seem to recall that all mammals are conceived as one sex, female - hence males also having nipples. It is only in later pre-birth development that some babies become male, so in our early stages Mother Nature changes the sex of around 50% of us - and sometimes she gets it a bit wrong. The person concerned in this matter clearly has serious mental health issues on top of and/or arising from their sexual identity confusion but as an individual they did commit a very nasty crime - so no excuses. But there is also no excuse whatsoever for comprehensively damning every decent person who has been through a, I am sure pretty harrowing but usually successful, sexual identity reassignment. muscliffman

4:26pm Sat 18 Jan 14

kalebmoledirt says...

muscliffman wrote:
davidhaz wrote:
For a start if someone is born a man they are a man. The fact that the echo calls him a woman is just more proof that the echo is run by typical pc bias leftwing media types. At the end of the day some things come out of the factory broken and this guy is def broken to say the least! Whats wrong is how we as a society deal them. What possible good can someone like this be for society? None. I couldn't care less if someone is gay or not. What people do in there own homes is up to them. But Doctors changing someones sex is just wrong. Its like telling the mad man that the 10ft bunny rabit standing next to him is real rather than trying to treat the illness thats causing the hallucination. It's wrong! As for him being a pedo again we dealing with these people in the wrong way. How can they ever be trusted to walk among us? There should be capital punishment for these deviants. Lethal injection is about as humane a treatment as they deserve. Lets stop treating them like patients in a hospital that deserve our sympathy. They a broken people that we can't fix. End of.
Presumably you apply your same appalling and here quite inappropriate logic about sexual identity error to all the other 'broken people' brought into the world! E.G. The disabled, blind, deaf, deformed, diseased. Mankind being a compassionate species with some intelligence tries it's best to fix 'broken people', whatever their natural defect may be. How can this be wrong?
My biology knowledge may be a little rusty these days but I seem to recall that all mammals are conceived as one sex, female - hence males also having nipples. It is only in later pre-birth development that some babies become male, so in our early stages Mother Nature changes the sex of around 50% of us - and sometimes she gets it a bit wrong.
The person concerned in this matter clearly has serious mental health issues on top of and/or arising from their sexual identity confusion but as an individual they did commit a very nasty crime - so no excuses. But there is also no excuse whatsoever for comprehensively damning every decent person who has been through a, I am sure pretty harrowing but usually successful, sexual identity reassignment.
Well written
[quote][p][bold]muscliffman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]davidhaz[/bold] wrote: For a start if someone is born a man they are a man. The fact that the echo calls him a woman is just more proof that the echo is run by typical pc bias leftwing media types. At the end of the day some things come out of the factory broken and this guy is def broken to say the least! Whats wrong is how we as a society deal them. What possible good can someone like this be for society? None. I couldn't care less if someone is gay or not. What people do in there own homes is up to them. But Doctors changing someones sex is just wrong. Its like telling the mad man that the 10ft bunny rabit standing next to him is real rather than trying to treat the illness thats causing the hallucination. It's wrong! As for him being a pedo again we dealing with these people in the wrong way. How can they ever be trusted to walk among us? There should be capital punishment for these deviants. Lethal injection is about as humane a treatment as they deserve. Lets stop treating them like patients in a hospital that deserve our sympathy. They a broken people that we can't fix. End of.[/p][/quote]Presumably you apply your same appalling and here quite inappropriate logic about sexual identity error to all the other 'broken people' brought into the world! E.G. The disabled, blind, deaf, deformed, diseased. Mankind being a compassionate species with some intelligence tries it's best to fix 'broken people', whatever their natural defect may be. How can this be wrong? My biology knowledge may be a little rusty these days but I seem to recall that all mammals are conceived as one sex, female - hence males also having nipples. It is only in later pre-birth development that some babies become male, so in our early stages Mother Nature changes the sex of around 50% of us - and sometimes she gets it a bit wrong. The person concerned in this matter clearly has serious mental health issues on top of and/or arising from their sexual identity confusion but as an individual they did commit a very nasty crime - so no excuses. But there is also no excuse whatsoever for comprehensively damning every decent person who has been through a, I am sure pretty harrowing but usually successful, sexual identity reassignment.[/p][/quote]Well written kalebmoledirt

4:52pm Sat 18 Jan 14

SeafaringMan says...

I suggest that anyone who downloads indecent images of children has 'mental health issues'.
I suggest that anyone who downloads indecent images of children has 'mental health issues'. SeafaringMan

5:18pm Sat 18 Jan 14

kalebmoledirt says...

Now I know she can,t read my postings .why did she allow a picture of Bigfoot in drag is she raising money for mythical creatures
Now I know she can,t read my postings .why did she allow a picture of Bigfoot in drag is she raising money for mythical creatures kalebmoledirt

5:57pm Sat 18 Jan 14

nickynoodah says...

She a man
Knobdirt dirty little old man
who's more skanky
only one way to find out
fffiiiggghhhttt
She a man Knobdirt dirty little old man who's more skanky only one way to find out fffiiiggghhhttt nickynoodah

7:27pm Sat 18 Jan 14

MPK83i says...

How the hell can you have different grades of child ****?? If she's downloading hoots of naked children grades of that should not be relevant!! Naked kids are naked kids!! Jail time simple!!!
How the hell can you have different grades of child ****?? If she's downloading hoots of naked children grades of that should not be relevant!! Naked kids are naked kids!! Jail time simple!!! MPK83i

7:42pm Sat 18 Jan 14

kalebmoledirt says...

nickynoodah wrote:
She a man
Knobdirt dirty little old man
who's more skanky
only one way to find out
fffiiiggghhhttt
Obviously not a locked ward
[quote][p][bold]nickynoodah[/bold] wrote: She a man Knobdirt dirty little old man who's more skanky only one way to find out fffiiiggghhhttt[/p][/quote]Obviously not a locked ward kalebmoledirt

8:05pm Sat 18 Jan 14

smhinto says...

Yet another low echelon dysfunctional lunatic who should be gassed. End of problem.
Yet another low echelon dysfunctional lunatic who should be gassed. End of problem. smhinto

8:19pm Sat 18 Jan 14

Staynor66 says...

SeafaringMan wrote:
I suggest that anyone who downloads indecent images of children has 'mental health issues'.
Totally agree ....and as this mental health problem is untreatable and never cured then send them down
[quote][p][bold]SeafaringMan[/bold] wrote: I suggest that anyone who downloads indecent images of children has 'mental health issues'.[/p][/quote]Totally agree ....and as this mental health problem is untreatable and never cured then send them down Staynor66

8:20pm Sat 18 Jan 14

kalebmoledirt says...

smhinto wrote:
Yet another low echelon dysfunctional lunatic who should be gassed. End of problem.
It,s,the weekend relax
[quote][p][bold]smhinto[/bold] wrote: Yet another low echelon dysfunctional lunatic who should be gassed. End of problem.[/p][/quote]It,s,the weekend relax kalebmoledirt

8:20pm Sat 18 Jan 14

kalebmoledirt says...

smhinto wrote:
Yet another low echelon dysfunctional lunatic who should be gassed. End of problem.
It,s,the weekend relax
[quote][p][bold]smhinto[/bold] wrote: Yet another low echelon dysfunctional lunatic who should be gassed. End of problem.[/p][/quote]It,s,the weekend relax kalebmoledirt

8:20pm Sat 18 Jan 14

kalebmoledirt says...

smhinto wrote:
Yet another low echelon dysfunctional lunatic who should be gassed. End of problem.
It,s,the weekend relax
[quote][p][bold]smhinto[/bold] wrote: Yet another low echelon dysfunctional lunatic who should be gassed. End of problem.[/p][/quote]It,s,the weekend relax kalebmoledirt

8:28pm Sat 18 Jan 14

nickynoodah says...

Picture above
Is that the son
you always bragging about George
could be you know
looks like your mother.
Picture above Is that the son you always bragging about George could be you know looks like your mother. nickynoodah

8:50pm Sat 18 Jan 14

Adrian XX says...

One should add that nude images of children are not illegal. I have some nude poses of a child younger than three. It is me, in the bath.

It would be sad if people get paranoid about "indecent" images and decided to throw away a lot of their baby photos.

According to the CPS, a level one image is one that depicts "erotic posing with no sexual activity". Simple nudity in photos is never illegal and for an image to be indecent "erotic" posing is necessary.
One should add that nude images of children are not illegal. I have some nude poses of a child younger than three. It is me, in the bath. It would be sad if people get paranoid about "indecent" images and decided to throw away a lot of their baby photos. According to the CPS, a level one image is one that depicts "erotic posing with no sexual activity". Simple nudity in photos is never illegal and for an image to be indecent "erotic" posing is necessary. Adrian XX

8:52pm Sat 18 Jan 14

Adrian XX says...

MPK83i wrote:
How the hell can you have different grades of child ****?? If she's downloading hoots of naked children grades of that should not be relevant!! Naked kids are naked kids!! Jail time simple!!!
Kids are often on the beach naked and some people look at them. Should they be jailed for looking?
[quote][p][bold]MPK83i[/bold] wrote: How the hell can you have different grades of child ****?? If she's downloading hoots of naked children grades of that should not be relevant!! Naked kids are naked kids!! Jail time simple!!![/p][/quote]Kids are often on the beach naked and some people look at them. Should they be jailed for looking? Adrian XX

8:55pm Sat 18 Jan 14

Adrian XX says...

There should be capital punishment for these deviants

It is known that the brains of paedophiles are different. This may eventually be traced back to a faulty gene. Supposing everyone is tested for the gene at birth and those with the gene are executed within a week? Do you think that would be helpful to society?
[quote]There should be capital punishment for these deviants[/quote] It is known that the brains of paedophiles are different. This may eventually be traced back to a faulty gene. Supposing everyone is tested for the gene at birth and those with the gene are executed within a week? Do you think that would be helpful to society? Adrian XX

9:30pm Sat 18 Jan 14

MCAME1989 says...

So it has mental health issues so gets away with it!!
Sounds legit!
So it has mental health issues so gets away with it!! Sounds legit! MCAME1989

12:25am Sun 19 Jan 14

whataboutthat says...

retry69 wrote:
Oh dear,oh dear where do we start with this one ?
This person is an attention seeker. This may include removal of said testicles.This sexless destiny has nothing to do with me or you. Davina is its own destiny it is neither a man nor a woman. What it was has been cut off and what it wants cannot truly be. A clitoris is not s coc* and vice versa.We need not trouble ourselvesa any further than providing medication and a safe place in which she can can live out her fantasy life. In a few years Channel 4 will feature her in a small documentary which will go out at 9 pm one Wednesday night. Lots of people will point at her in the street for a few days. Then she will be forgotten. Her face on Youtube for ever but.nobody will find the reference link. Modern toss. End of.
[quote][p][bold]retry69[/bold] wrote: Oh dear,oh dear where do we start with this one ?[/p][/quote]This person is an attention seeker. This may include removal of said testicles.This sexless destiny has nothing to do with me or you. Davina is its own destiny it is neither a man nor a woman. What it was has been cut off and what it wants cannot truly be. A clitoris is not s coc* and vice versa.We need not trouble ourselvesa any further than providing medication and a safe place in which she can can live out her fantasy life. In a few years Channel 4 will feature her in a small documentary which will go out at 9 pm one Wednesday night. Lots of people will point at her in the street for a few days. Then she will be forgotten. Her face on Youtube for ever but.nobody will find the reference link. Modern toss. End of. whataboutthat

12:40am Sun 19 Jan 14

whataboutthat says...

Having said all that - what community wants Davina's services Mr Magistrate?
Having said all that - what community wants Davina's services Mr Magistrate? whataboutthat

3:53am Sun 19 Jan 14

davidhaz says...

kalebmoledirt wrote:
muscliffman wrote:
davidhaz wrote:
For a start if someone is born a man they are a man. The fact that the echo calls him a woman is just more proof that the echo is run by typical pc bias leftwing media types. At the end of the day some things come out of the factory broken and this guy is def broken to say the least! Whats wrong is how we as a society deal them. What possible good can someone like this be for society? None. I couldn't care less if someone is gay or not. What people do in there own homes is up to them. But Doctors changing someones sex is just wrong. Its like telling the mad man that the 10ft bunny rabit standing next to him is real rather than trying to treat the illness thats causing the hallucination. It's wrong! As for him being a pedo again we dealing with these people in the wrong way. How can they ever be trusted to walk among us? There should be capital punishment for these deviants. Lethal injection is about as humane a treatment as they deserve. Lets stop treating them like patients in a hospital that deserve our sympathy. They a broken people that we can't fix. End of.
Presumably you apply your same appalling and here quite inappropriate logic about sexual identity error to all the other 'broken people' brought into the world! E.G. The disabled, blind, deaf, deformed, diseased. Mankind being a compassionate species with some intelligence tries it's best to fix 'broken people', whatever their natural defect may be. How can this be wrong?
My biology knowledge may be a little rusty these days but I seem to recall that all mammals are conceived as one sex, female - hence males also having nipples. It is only in later pre-birth development that some babies become male, so in our early stages Mother Nature changes the sex of around 50% of us - and sometimes she gets it a bit wrong.
The person concerned in this matter clearly has serious mental health issues on top of and/or arising from their sexual identity confusion but as an individual they did commit a very nasty crime - so no excuses. But there is also no excuse whatsoever for comprehensively damning every decent person who has been through a, I am sure pretty harrowing but usually successful, sexual identity reassignment.
Well written
You would make presumptions as you seem to be a bit brainwashed by leftwing cultural marxism. Try reality and rejoin the human race sometime rather than repeating nonsense.
[quote][p][bold]kalebmoledirt[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]muscliffman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]davidhaz[/bold] wrote: For a start if someone is born a man they are a man. The fact that the echo calls him a woman is just more proof that the echo is run by typical pc bias leftwing media types. At the end of the day some things come out of the factory broken and this guy is def broken to say the least! Whats wrong is how we as a society deal them. What possible good can someone like this be for society? None. I couldn't care less if someone is gay or not. What people do in there own homes is up to them. But Doctors changing someones sex is just wrong. Its like telling the mad man that the 10ft bunny rabit standing next to him is real rather than trying to treat the illness thats causing the hallucination. It's wrong! As for him being a pedo again we dealing with these people in the wrong way. How can they ever be trusted to walk among us? There should be capital punishment for these deviants. Lethal injection is about as humane a treatment as they deserve. Lets stop treating them like patients in a hospital that deserve our sympathy. They a broken people that we can't fix. End of.[/p][/quote]Presumably you apply your same appalling and here quite inappropriate logic about sexual identity error to all the other 'broken people' brought into the world! E.G. The disabled, blind, deaf, deformed, diseased. Mankind being a compassionate species with some intelligence tries it's best to fix 'broken people', whatever their natural defect may be. How can this be wrong? My biology knowledge may be a little rusty these days but I seem to recall that all mammals are conceived as one sex, female - hence males also having nipples. It is only in later pre-birth development that some babies become male, so in our early stages Mother Nature changes the sex of around 50% of us - and sometimes she gets it a bit wrong. The person concerned in this matter clearly has serious mental health issues on top of and/or arising from their sexual identity confusion but as an individual they did commit a very nasty crime - so no excuses. But there is also no excuse whatsoever for comprehensively damning every decent person who has been through a, I am sure pretty harrowing but usually successful, sexual identity reassignment.[/p][/quote]Well written[/p][/quote]You would make presumptions as you seem to be a bit brainwashed by leftwing cultural marxism. Try reality and rejoin the human race sometime rather than repeating nonsense. davidhaz

6:28am Sun 19 Jan 14

retry69 says...

whataboutthat wrote:
Having said all that - what community wants Davina's services Mr Magistrate?
Well previous experience reading the comments on this topic has shown there are a group of commenters among us who are willing to give people who download these type of images the benefit of the doubt.So I would not be surprised if a suggestion comes by the end of the day that he/she could meet up with the others who have been allowed to walk free in the past year and form a work group who could visits schools to explain their hobby.
[quote][p][bold]whataboutthat[/bold] wrote: Having said all that - what community wants Davina's services Mr Magistrate?[/p][/quote]Well previous experience reading the comments on this topic has shown there are a group of commenters among us who are willing to give people who download these type of images the benefit of the doubt.So I would not be surprised if a suggestion comes by the end of the day that he/she could meet up with the others who have been allowed to walk free in the past year and form a work group who could visits schools to explain their hobby. retry69

8:10am Sun 19 Jan 14

nickynoodah says...

My biology knowledge may be a little rusty these days mmmmmmm...... .

... Sounds its completely corroded away
Cant believe you got up in the middle of the night posting such drivel males also having nipples you know OMG
treat yourself to a can of trustan that will do the trick

knobdirt. be a nice. knobdirt
My biology knowledge may be a little rusty these days mmmmmmm...... . ... Sounds its completely corroded away Cant believe you got up in the middle of the night posting such drivel males also having nipples you know OMG treat yourself to a can of trustan that will do the trick knobdirt. be a nice. knobdirt nickynoodah

9:16am Sun 19 Jan 14

MCAME1989 says...

Adrian XX wrote:
MPK83i wrote:
How the hell can you have different grades of child ****?? If she's downloading hoots of naked children grades of that should not be relevant!! Naked kids are naked kids!! Jail time simple!!!
Kids are often on the beach naked and some people look at them. Should they be jailed for looking?
That's completely different!
Children naked on a beach is normal...sometimes it's hard not to see them so
U turn away and make sure u don't look!
What this THING has done is looked at and downloaded pictures on purpose!
[quote][p][bold]Adrian XX[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MPK83i[/bold] wrote: How the hell can you have different grades of child ****?? If she's downloading hoots of naked children grades of that should not be relevant!! Naked kids are naked kids!! Jail time simple!!![/p][/quote]Kids are often on the beach naked and some people look at them. Should they be jailed for looking?[/p][/quote]That's completely different! Children naked on a beach is normal...sometimes it's hard not to see them so U turn away and make sure u don't look! What this THING has done is looked at and downloaded pictures on purpose! MCAME1989

10:56am Sun 19 Jan 14

BIGTONE says...

It still **** like a man.....
It still **** like a man..... BIGTONE

10:57am Sun 19 Jan 14

BIGTONE says...

BIGTONE wrote:
It still **** like a man.....
F.a.r.t.s.
[quote][p][bold]BIGTONE[/bold] wrote: It still **** like a man.....[/p][/quote]F.a.r.t.s. BIGTONE

11:49am Sun 19 Jan 14

s-pb2 says...

rudestickers wrote:
I think ANYONE that downloads indecent images of children should be locked up. Too many times we read that these perverts are cautioned etc; Get them off our streets and put childrens safety before anything else. This country seems incapable of child protection despite all it's promises and BS,
Child protection should be paramount. It doesnt help when an MP in this country goes on national TV and says social workers are evil and you should flee the country if you are being investigated.
[quote][p][bold]rudestickers[/bold] wrote: I think ANYONE that downloads indecent images of children should be locked up. Too many times we read that these perverts are cautioned etc; Get them off our streets and put childrens safety before anything else. This country seems incapable of child protection despite all it's promises and BS,[/p][/quote]Child protection should be paramount. It doesnt help when an MP in this country goes on national TV and says social workers are evil and you should flee the country if you are being investigated. s-pb2

12:55pm Sun 19 Jan 14

Adrian XX says...

MCAME1989 wrote:
Adrian XX wrote:
MPK83i wrote:
How the hell can you have different grades of child ****?? If she's downloading hoots of naked children grades of that should not be relevant!! Naked kids are naked kids!! Jail time simple!!!
Kids are often on the beach naked and some people look at them. Should they be jailed for looking?
That's completely different!
Children naked on a beach is normal...sometimes it's hard not to see them so
U turn away and make sure u don't look!
What this THING has done is looked at and downloaded pictures on purpose!
So one should turn away when one's friend's children are naked on the beach or else end up in jail? (Jailed for looking in the wrong direction!)

Or be jailed for looking at photographs of your two year old nephew in the bath?

Next you will be suggesting that mothers look away while changing their baby's nappy.
[quote][p][bold]MCAME1989[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Adrian XX[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MPK83i[/bold] wrote: How the hell can you have different grades of child ****?? If she's downloading hoots of naked children grades of that should not be relevant!! Naked kids are naked kids!! Jail time simple!!![/p][/quote]Kids are often on the beach naked and some people look at them. Should they be jailed for looking?[/p][/quote]That's completely different! Children naked on a beach is normal...sometimes it's hard not to see them so U turn away and make sure u don't look! What this THING has done is looked at and downloaded pictures on purpose![/p][/quote]So one should turn away when one's friend's children are naked on the beach or else end up in jail? (Jailed for looking in the wrong direction!) Or be jailed for looking at photographs of your two year old nephew in the bath? Next you will be suggesting that mothers look away while changing their baby's nappy. Adrian XX

1:01pm Sun 19 Jan 14

retry69 says...

I wondered when this topic would reach total stupidity and there we have it,unbelievable.
I wondered when this topic would reach total stupidity and there we have it,unbelievable. retry69

1:54pm Sun 19 Jan 14

BoscombeWarLord says...

Degenerate filth
Degenerate filth BoscombeWarLord

2:11pm Sun 19 Jan 14

kalebmoledirt says...

Adrian XX wrote:
There should be capital punishment for these deviants

It is known that the brains of paedophiles are different. This may eventually be traced back to a faulty gene. Supposing everyone is tested for the gene at birth and those with the gene are executed within a week? Do you think that would be helpful to society?
I take it you would apply to stick the needle in the baby? Sounds quite a well balanced sort
[quote][p][bold]Adrian XX[/bold] wrote: [quote]There should be capital punishment for these deviants[/quote] It is known that the brains of paedophiles are different. This may eventually be traced back to a faulty gene. Supposing everyone is tested for the gene at birth and those with the gene are executed within a week? Do you think that would be helpful to society?[/p][/quote]I take it you would apply to stick the needle in the baby? Sounds quite a well balanced sort kalebmoledirt

2:11pm Sun 19 Jan 14

kalebmoledirt says...

Adrian XX wrote:
There should be capital punishment for these deviants

It is known that the brains of paedophiles are different. This may eventually be traced back to a faulty gene. Supposing everyone is tested for the gene at birth and those with the gene are executed within a week? Do you think that would be helpful to society?
I take it you would apply to stick the needle in the baby? Sounds quite a well balanced sort
[quote][p][bold]Adrian XX[/bold] wrote: [quote]There should be capital punishment for these deviants[/quote] It is known that the brains of paedophiles are different. This may eventually be traced back to a faulty gene. Supposing everyone is tested for the gene at birth and those with the gene are executed within a week? Do you think that would be helpful to society?[/p][/quote]I take it you would apply to stick the needle in the baby? Sounds quite a well balanced sort kalebmoledirt

9:43pm Sun 19 Jan 14

MCAME1989 says...

Adrian XX wrote:
MCAME1989 wrote:
Adrian XX wrote:
MPK83i wrote:
How the hell can you have different grades of child ****?? If she's downloading hoots of naked children grades of that should not be relevant!! Naked kids are naked kids!! Jail time simple!!!
Kids are often on the beach naked and some people look at them. Should they be jailed for looking?
That's completely different!
Children naked on a beach is normal...sometimes it's hard not to see them so
U turn away and make sure u don't look!
What this THING has done is looked at and downloaded pictures on purpose!
So one should turn away when one's friend's children are naked on the beach or else end up in jail? (Jailed for looking in the wrong direction!)

Or be jailed for looking at photographs of your two year old nephew in the bath?

Next you will be suggesting that mothers look away while changing their baby's nappy.
What the hell...no that's not what I'm saying!
If a child is naked in the beach...don't sit and stare at them! Easy!
Looking at a nephews picture...ur just an idiot!
[quote][p][bold]Adrian XX[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MCAME1989[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Adrian XX[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MPK83i[/bold] wrote: How the hell can you have different grades of child ****?? If she's downloading hoots of naked children grades of that should not be relevant!! Naked kids are naked kids!! Jail time simple!!![/p][/quote]Kids are often on the beach naked and some people look at them. Should they be jailed for looking?[/p][/quote]That's completely different! Children naked on a beach is normal...sometimes it's hard not to see them so U turn away and make sure u don't look! What this THING has done is looked at and downloaded pictures on purpose![/p][/quote]So one should turn away when one's friend's children are naked on the beach or else end up in jail? (Jailed for looking in the wrong direction!) Or be jailed for looking at photographs of your two year old nephew in the bath? Next you will be suggesting that mothers look away while changing their baby's nappy.[/p][/quote]What the hell...no that's not what I'm saying! If a child is naked in the beach...don't sit and stare at them! Easy! Looking at a nephews picture...ur just an idiot! MCAME1989

11:48pm Sun 19 Jan 14

Mrs C. A Townend says...

Tripod wrote:
My question is why wasn't there any form of "parental" control on internet access?
If you take-out any form of internet connection (including a mobile phone) access is generally restricted until the bill payer has provided proof of age (etc.), how can someone with mental health problems, under a mental health order, living in a residential home get unrestricted access?
That's the part I am trying to understand and find out about. Surely if the person is under a 'mental health order' and living in a residential home, there must be rules on the use of technology and computers? The only thing I can put this down to, is a lack of supervision in the home.
[quote][p][bold]Tripod[/bold] wrote: My question is why wasn't there any form of "parental" control on internet access? If you take-out any form of internet connection (including a mobile phone) access is generally restricted until the bill payer has provided proof of age (etc.), how can someone with mental health problems, under a mental health order, living in a residential home get unrestricted access?[/p][/quote]That's the part I am trying to understand and find out about. Surely if the person is under a 'mental health order' and living in a residential home, there must be rules on the use of technology and computers? The only thing I can put this down to, is a lack of supervision in the home. Mrs C. A Townend

11:51pm Sun 19 Jan 14

Mrs C. A Townend says...

It's one thing performing 'checks' and 'checking the content, but someone should have been with her monitoring what she was looking at before this happened.
It's one thing performing 'checks' and 'checking the content, but someone should have been with her monitoring what she was looking at before this happened. Mrs C. A Townend

12:15am Mon 20 Jan 14

Adrian XX says...

Mrs C. A Townend wrote:
Tripod wrote:
My question is why wasn't there any form of "parental" control on internet access?
If you take-out any form of internet connection (including a mobile phone) access is generally restricted until the bill payer has provided proof of age (etc.), how can someone with mental health problems, under a mental health order, living in a residential home get unrestricted access?
That's the part I am trying to understand and find out about. Surely if the person is under a 'mental health order' and living in a residential home, there must be rules on the use of technology and computers? The only thing I can put this down to, is a lack of supervision in the home.
I think what you possibly don't realise is that erotic photographs of children aren't simply there on the internet for easy downloading. Any website offering them would be closed down immediately and any site on an ISP's "pr0n blocklist" is there because it offers legal adult pr0n. If it offered child pr0n it would be taken down immediately and the authorities alerted.

There is a darker and deeper side part of the internet that is almost unpoliceable and almost impossible for ISPs to block. It is almost completely underground and that is where indecent images of children are traded. Unfortunately when people are caught with them on their own disks we are only seeing the tip of the iceberg and prosecuting downloaders gets nowhere near the producers (the real abusers of children) in the same way that prosecuting heroin addicts does nothing to curtail global supply of the drug.
[quote][p][bold]Mrs C. A Townend[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tripod[/bold] wrote: My question is why wasn't there any form of "parental" control on internet access? If you take-out any form of internet connection (including a mobile phone) access is generally restricted until the bill payer has provided proof of age (etc.), how can someone with mental health problems, under a mental health order, living in a residential home get unrestricted access?[/p][/quote]That's the part I am trying to understand and find out about. Surely if the person is under a 'mental health order' and living in a residential home, there must be rules on the use of technology and computers? The only thing I can put this down to, is a lack of supervision in the home.[/p][/quote]I think what you possibly don't realise is that erotic photographs of children aren't simply there on the internet for easy downloading. Any website offering them would be closed down immediately and any site on an ISP's "pr0n blocklist" is there because it offers legal adult pr0n. If it offered child pr0n it would be taken down immediately and the authorities alerted. There is a darker and deeper side part of the internet that is almost unpoliceable and almost impossible for ISPs to block. It is almost completely underground and that is where indecent images of children are traded. Unfortunately when people are caught with them on their own disks we are only seeing the tip of the iceberg and prosecuting downloaders gets nowhere near the producers (the real abusers of children) in the same way that prosecuting heroin addicts does nothing to curtail global supply of the drug. Adrian XX

12:28pm Mon 20 Jan 14

suzigirl says...

Mrs C. A Townend wrote:
It's one thing performing 'checks' and 'checking the content, but someone should have been with her monitoring what she was looking at before this happened.
Probably staff that are not trained properly and do not speak English as a first language!
[quote][p][bold]Mrs C. A Townend[/bold] wrote: It's one thing performing 'checks' and 'checking the content, but someone should have been with her monitoring what she was looking at before this happened.[/p][/quote]Probably staff that are not trained properly and do not speak English as a first language! suzigirl

3:30pm Mon 20 Jan 14

O'Reilly says...

kalebmoledirt wrote:
retry69 wrote:
John T wrote:
retry69 wrote:
John T wrote:
retry69 wrote:
MMM444 wrote:
retry69 wrote:
Oh dear,oh dear where do we start with this one ?
Good Question, If you do find a start, finding an end may be the problem
Ok lets have a go,two separate issues here to me, one the sentence and two the seriousness of the perverted crime.There is no link as the punishment does not reflect the crime (no surprise there then).The fact that it states that Aryton had been "quite clever" in downloading the images while under supervision is probably a better indication of her mental health than any report.Ive started you finish it.
I think you will find that MMM444 was looking for something that may stick out. What a joke! (to quote previous comments).
Yeah yeah I got the innuendos thanks but im taking a serious approach to this topic
Well, I guess anybody can be ambivalent on a subject like this, retry 69?
I make no apologies for this but each time I go back to the comments and scroll down, as the picture runs past I am seeing a man and not a woman.In fact I would go as far to say I could look more of a woman than he uh she does,See I tried to be serious and now look what you've done its all gone out the window
Post a picture we,'ll let you know
At a quick glance I thought it was Ray Davies from the Kinks.....glad to see it wasn't.
[quote][p][bold]kalebmoledirt[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]retry69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]John T[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]retry69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]John T[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]retry69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MMM444[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]retry69[/bold] wrote: Oh dear,oh dear where do we start with this one ?[/p][/quote]Good Question, If you do find a start, finding an end may be the problem[/p][/quote]Ok lets have a go,two separate issues here to me, one the sentence and two the seriousness of the perverted crime.There is no link as the punishment does not reflect the crime (no surprise there then).The fact that it states that Aryton had been "quite clever" in downloading the images while under supervision is probably a better indication of her mental health than any report.Ive started you finish it.[/p][/quote]I think you will find that MMM444 was looking for something that may stick out. What a joke! (to quote previous comments).[/p][/quote]Yeah yeah I got the innuendos thanks but im taking a serious approach to this topic[/p][/quote]Well, I guess anybody can be ambivalent on a subject like this, retry 69?[/p][/quote]I make no apologies for this but each time I go back to the comments and scroll down, as the picture runs past I am seeing a man and not a woman.In fact I would go as far to say I could look more of a woman than he uh she does,See I tried to be serious and now look what you've done its all gone out the window[/p][/quote]Post a picture we,'ll let you know[/p][/quote]At a quick glance I thought it was Ray Davies from the Kinks.....glad to see it wasn't. O'Reilly

3:35pm Mon 20 Jan 14

Palantir says...

davidhaz wrote:
For a start if someone is born a man they are a man. The fact that the echo calls him a woman is just more proof that the echo is run by typical pc bias leftwing media types. At the end of the day some things come out of the factory broken and this guy is def broken to say the least! Whats wrong is how we as a society deal them. What possible good can someone like this be for society? None. I couldn't care less if someone is gay or not. What people do in there own homes is up to them. But Doctors changing someones sex is just wrong. Its like telling the mad man that the 10ft bunny rabit standing next to him is real rather than trying to treat the illness thats causing the hallucination. It's wrong! As for him being a pedo again we dealing with these people in the wrong way. How can they ever be trusted to walk among us? There should be capital punishment for these deviants. Lethal injection is about as humane a treatment as they deserve. Lets stop treating them like patients in a hospital that deserve our sympathy. They a broken people that we can't fix. End of.
Nobody condones the actions taken by this person (and apparently more of one than you with the way you have insulted all transgender people in one sentence - most of which are not sexual deviants at all).

However, if you look far enough back, there were some other people who went around executing the mentally ill, homosexuals, and anyone else they deemed to be 'subversive' - they ran Germany between 1933-1945 and were called Nazis.
[quote][p][bold]davidhaz[/bold] wrote: For a start if someone is born a man they are a man. The fact that the echo calls him a woman is just more proof that the echo is run by typical pc bias leftwing media types. At the end of the day some things come out of the factory broken and this guy is def broken to say the least! Whats wrong is how we as a society deal them. What possible good can someone like this be for society? None. I couldn't care less if someone is gay or not. What people do in there own homes is up to them. But Doctors changing someones sex is just wrong. Its like telling the mad man that the 10ft bunny rabit standing next to him is real rather than trying to treat the illness thats causing the hallucination. It's wrong! As for him being a pedo again we dealing with these people in the wrong way. How can they ever be trusted to walk among us? There should be capital punishment for these deviants. Lethal injection is about as humane a treatment as they deserve. Lets stop treating them like patients in a hospital that deserve our sympathy. They a broken people that we can't fix. End of.[/p][/quote]Nobody condones the actions taken by this person (and apparently more of one than you with the way you have insulted all transgender people in one sentence - most of which are not sexual deviants at all). However, if you look far enough back, there were some other people who went around executing the mentally ill, homosexuals, and anyone else they deemed to be 'subversive' - they ran Germany between 1933-1945 and were called Nazis. Palantir

4:34pm Mon 20 Jan 14

O'Reilly says...

BIGTONE wrote:
BIGTONE wrote:
It still **** like a man.....
F.a.r.t.s.
Would that be a queef? Just asking.
[quote][p][bold]BIGTONE[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BIGTONE[/bold] wrote: It still **** like a man.....[/p][/quote]F.a.r.t.s.[/p][/quote]Would that be a queef? Just asking. O'Reilly

4:55pm Mon 20 Jan 14

suzigirl says...

O'Reilly wrote:
kalebmoledirt wrote:
retry69 wrote:
John T wrote:
retry69 wrote:
John T wrote:
retry69 wrote:
MMM444 wrote:
retry69 wrote: Oh dear,oh dear where do we start with this one ?
Good Question, If you do find a start, finding an end may be the problem
Ok lets have a go,two separate issues here to me, one the sentence and two the seriousness of the perverted crime.There is no link as the punishment does not reflect the crime (no surprise there then).The fact that it states that Aryton had been "quite clever" in downloading the images while under supervision is probably a better indication of her mental health than any report.Ive started you finish it.
I think you will find that MMM444 was looking for something that may stick out. What a joke! (to quote previous comments).
Yeah yeah I got the innuendos thanks but im taking a serious approach to this topic
Well, I guess anybody can be ambivalent on a subject like this, retry 69?
I make no apologies for this but each time I go back to the comments and scroll down, as the picture runs past I am seeing a man and not a woman.In fact I would go as far to say I could look more of a woman than he uh she does,See I tried to be serious and now look what you've done its all gone out the window
Post a picture we,'ll let you know
At a quick glance I thought it was Ray Davies from the Kinks.....glad to see it wasn't.
LOLA! Great song!
[quote][p][bold]O'Reilly[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kalebmoledirt[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]retry69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]John T[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]retry69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]John T[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]retry69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MMM444[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]retry69[/bold] wrote: Oh dear,oh dear where do we start with this one ?[/p][/quote]Good Question, If you do find a start, finding an end may be the problem[/p][/quote]Ok lets have a go,two separate issues here to me, one the sentence and two the seriousness of the perverted crime.There is no link as the punishment does not reflect the crime (no surprise there then).The fact that it states that Aryton had been "quite clever" in downloading the images while under supervision is probably a better indication of her mental health than any report.Ive started you finish it.[/p][/quote]I think you will find that MMM444 was looking for something that may stick out. What a joke! (to quote previous comments).[/p][/quote]Yeah yeah I got the innuendos thanks but im taking a serious approach to this topic[/p][/quote]Well, I guess anybody can be ambivalent on a subject like this, retry 69?[/p][/quote]I make no apologies for this but each time I go back to the comments and scroll down, as the picture runs past I am seeing a man and not a woman.In fact I would go as far to say I could look more of a woman than he uh she does,See I tried to be serious and now look what you've done its all gone out the window[/p][/quote]Post a picture we,'ll let you know[/p][/quote]At a quick glance I thought it was Ray Davies from the Kinks.....glad to see it wasn't.[/p][/quote]LOLA! Great song! suzigirl

5:08pm Mon 20 Jan 14

O'Reilly says...

Palantir wrote:
davidhaz wrote:
For a start if someone is born a man they are a man. The fact that the echo calls him a woman is just more proof that the echo is run by typical pc bias leftwing media types. At the end of the day some things come out of the factory broken and this guy is def broken to say the least! Whats wrong is how we as a society deal them. What possible good can someone like this be for society? None. I couldn't care less if someone is gay or not. What people do in there own homes is up to them. But Doctors changing someones sex is just wrong. Its like telling the mad man that the 10ft bunny rabit standing next to him is real rather than trying to treat the illness thats causing the hallucination. It's wrong! As for him being a pedo again we dealing with these people in the wrong way. How can they ever be trusted to walk among us? There should be capital punishment for these deviants. Lethal injection is about as humane a treatment as they deserve. Lets stop treating them like patients in a hospital that deserve our sympathy. They a broken people that we can't fix. End of.
Nobody condones the actions taken by this person (and apparently more of one than you with the way you have insulted all transgender people in one sentence - most of which are not sexual deviants at all).

However, if you look far enough back, there were some other people who went around executing the mentally ill, homosexuals, and anyone else they deemed to be 'subversive' - they ran Germany between 1933-1945 and were called Nazis.
The irony being..... quite a few of the them had homosexual predilections.
[quote][p][bold]Palantir[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]davidhaz[/bold] wrote: For a start if someone is born a man they are a man. The fact that the echo calls him a woman is just more proof that the echo is run by typical pc bias leftwing media types. At the end of the day some things come out of the factory broken and this guy is def broken to say the least! Whats wrong is how we as a society deal them. What possible good can someone like this be for society? None. I couldn't care less if someone is gay or not. What people do in there own homes is up to them. But Doctors changing someones sex is just wrong. Its like telling the mad man that the 10ft bunny rabit standing next to him is real rather than trying to treat the illness thats causing the hallucination. It's wrong! As for him being a pedo again we dealing with these people in the wrong way. How can they ever be trusted to walk among us? There should be capital punishment for these deviants. Lethal injection is about as humane a treatment as they deserve. Lets stop treating them like patients in a hospital that deserve our sympathy. They a broken people that we can't fix. End of.[/p][/quote]Nobody condones the actions taken by this person (and apparently more of one than you with the way you have insulted all transgender people in one sentence - most of which are not sexual deviants at all). However, if you look far enough back, there were some other people who went around executing the mentally ill, homosexuals, and anyone else they deemed to be 'subversive' - they ran Germany between 1933-1945 and were called Nazis.[/p][/quote]The irony being..... quite a few of the them had homosexual predilections. O'Reilly

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