Calls for consultation with traveller community over Poole transit site

Bournemouth Echo: ISSUE: Travellers on Whitecliff recreation ground ISSUE: Travellers on Whitecliff recreation ground

THE Gypsy Council has waded into the controversy over a temporary summer site for gypsies and travellers in Poole.

Borough of Poole is suggesting two sites, at Marshes End, Creekmoor and off Broadstone Way, where the police would be able to move travellers who invade public open space, without the need to go to court.

The controversial issue is due to go before an emergency meeting of the full council on January 27 at 6pm.

Joe Jones, chairman of the Gypsy Council, called for consultation with the gypsy and traveller population over where they would like to live.

“If the provision is not provided, then there is no other option than to provide for yourself,” he said. “In the way of private, public and unauthorised developments.”

He said it was unfair to “put the failures of those in power, on our shoulders” due to a lack of political will. And he said no-one had taken into account the growth rate of the population.

“A 12 pitch site soon becomes overcrowded, so there needs to be an ongoing programme of provision.”

He said: “We have and are willing to help in this process, through the consultation of the local gypsy and traveller population, who might in fact welcome being asked where they would like to live, rather than being told where to reside.

“Being spoken for is nothing like being spoken to.”

Poole had a long list of 90 possible sites for a temporary stopping place and has been unable to identify a site for a permanent transit site.

Over the last five years work has been carried out to find a site Dorset-wide.

Deputy council leader Cllr Mike White is visiting parliament with MP Robert Syms next Tuesday to lobby Brandon Lewis, Under Secretary of State at the Department for Communities and Local Government.

“We will be discussing our sharing a site with our neighbours in Dorset or Bournemouth.

“At the moment that’s not allowed under current legislation,” said Cllr White.

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8:04am Sun 19 Jan 14

Avengerboy says...

What defines 'gypsy' and 'traveller'? Is there a membership badge like the caravan club?
What defines 'gypsy' and 'traveller'? Is there a membership badge like the caravan club? Avengerboy
  • Score: 24

8:08am Sun 19 Jan 14

JustForPoole says...

"Avengerboy" ... Caravan Club does not have a membership badge ... just the ability to conform to social behaviour and the law!!!
"Avengerboy" ... Caravan Club does not have a membership badge ... just the ability to conform to social behaviour and the law!!! JustForPoole
  • Score: 27

8:10am Sun 19 Jan 14

Carolyn43 says...

"And he said no-one had taken into account the growth rate of the population.

“A 12 pitch site soon becomes, so there needs to be an ongoing programme of provision.”
.......
So he's saying there will be more and more of them, so more and more sites will be needed.
..........
Does he really think residents in ANY area will agree to that?
"And he said no-one had taken into account the growth rate of the population. “A 12 pitch site soon becomes, so there needs to be an ongoing programme of provision.” ....... So he's saying there will be more and more of them, so more and more sites will be needed. .......... Does he really think residents in ANY area will agree to that? Carolyn43
  • Score: 37

8:21am Sun 19 Jan 14

twynham says...

We were always told by Ms Shepherd that the term gypsy was racist and we had to use traveller or Romany.
.
When did that change ¿¿¿
We were always told by Ms Shepherd that the term gypsy was racist and we had to use traveller or Romany. . When did that change ¿¿¿ twynham
  • Score: 29

8:27am Sun 19 Jan 14

Avengerboy says...

twynham wrote:
We were always told by Ms Shepherd that the term gypsy was racist and we had to use traveller or Romany.
.
When did that change ¿¿¿
I blame the Gypsy Council!
[quote][p][bold]twynham[/bold] wrote: We were always told by Ms Shepherd that the term gypsy was racist and we had to use traveller or Romany. . When did that change ¿¿¿[/p][/quote]I blame the Gypsy Council! Avengerboy
  • Score: 20

8:50am Sun 19 Jan 14

djd says...

I would like to be asked where I want to live.
Oh, wait a minute, I'm not an ethnic minority. I don't put my caravan and family wherever I want despite whoever is in conveniences.
I suppose I'll just have to carry on paying my council tax, income tax and energy bills and live in the property I have worked all my life to own.
And we ask "Who are the mugs?"
I would like to be asked where I want to live. Oh, wait a minute, I'm not an ethnic minority. I don't put my caravan and family wherever I want despite whoever is in conveniences. I suppose I'll just have to carry on paying my council tax, income tax and energy bills and live in the property I have worked all my life to own. And we ask "Who are the mugs?" djd
  • Score: 53

8:54am Sun 19 Jan 14

BIGTONE says...

"He said: “We have and are willing to help in this process, through the consultation of the local gypsy and traveller population, who might in fact welcome being asked where they would like to live, rather than being told where to reside."


Let me see......Ohhhh the seafront would be nice.......yea right!!!
"He said: “We have and are willing to help in this process, through the consultation of the local gypsy and traveller population, who might in fact welcome being asked where they would like to live, rather than being told where to reside." Let me see......Ohhhh the seafront would be nice.......yea right!!! BIGTONE
  • Score: 26

9:07am Sun 19 Jan 14

djd says...

djd wrote:
I would like to be asked where I want to live.
Oh, wait a minute, I'm not an ethnic minority. I don't put my caravan and family wherever I want despite whoever is in conveniences.
I suppose I'll just have to carry on paying my council tax, income tax and energy bills and live in the property I have worked all my life to own.
And we ask "Who are the mugs?"
Sorry, should have read "inconvenienced". So much for predictive text.
[quote][p][bold]djd[/bold] wrote: I would like to be asked where I want to live. Oh, wait a minute, I'm not an ethnic minority. I don't put my caravan and family wherever I want despite whoever is in conveniences. I suppose I'll just have to carry on paying my council tax, income tax and energy bills and live in the property I have worked all my life to own. And we ask "Who are the mugs?"[/p][/quote]Sorry, should have read "inconvenienced". So much for predictive text. djd
  • Score: 5

9:08am Sun 19 Jan 14

nickynoodah says...

The best thing about these gypsies is the bare fist fights that they have with their mates and cousins
I have see lots of them in Derbyshire
and participated bandaged knuckles only
I love the gypsy wenches and boxers.
The best thing about these gypsies is the bare fist fights that they have with their mates and cousins I have see lots of them in Derbyshire and participated bandaged knuckles only I love the gypsy wenches and boxers. nickynoodah
  • Score: -26

9:08am Sun 19 Jan 14

Peroni says...

' where they would like to live '
What a joke !
Bloody council will be bringing them breakfast and dinner next ,
' where they would like to live ' What a joke ! Bloody council will be bringing them breakfast and dinner next , Peroni
  • Score: 34

9:11am Sun 19 Jan 14

nickynoodah says...

conveniences
that was last week knobdirt
remember
flush
down
toilet
head
conveniences that was last week knobdirt remember flush down toilet head nickynoodah
  • Score: -19

9:24am Sun 19 Jan 14

i have heard it all now says...

Plenty of room in Ireland,Don't let them in the Country.
Plenty of room in Ireland,Don't let them in the Country. i have heard it all now
  • Score: 34

9:27am Sun 19 Jan 14

boyerboy says...

As a local, law abiding, I pay my taxes etc etc person, can some one advise me what rights I have ?//can I park on an open space/ "mess" all over the place/not pay any taxes/work illegally..........h
ave I missed something?


Oh and can a learned colleague confirm or otherwise, that Irish travellers are not recognised in their "own" country as an ethnic group?
As a local, law abiding, I pay my taxes etc etc person, can some one advise me what rights I have ?//can I park on an open space/ "mess" all over the place/not pay any taxes/work illegally..........h ave I missed something? Oh and can a learned colleague confirm or otherwise, that Irish travellers are not recognised in their "own" country as an ethnic group? boyerboy
  • Score: 22

9:30am Sun 19 Jan 14

falco5 says...

What about the big hit the value of my property will take if this camp is set up near by, not to mention the near impossibility of ever selling it. So my 'choice of where to live' is taken away and I'm the one paying taxes and contributing to society.
What about the big hit the value of my property will take if this camp is set up near by, not to mention the near impossibility of ever selling it. So my 'choice of where to live' is taken away and I'm the one paying taxes and contributing to society. falco5
  • Score: 22

9:36am Sun 19 Jan 14

Chris the plumber says...

Dorset has lots of caravan sites, large and small from £8 a night to over £30 surely these " travellers" can find a site that suits them rather that to over burdened tax pay catering to there whims and wants.. or do travellers have some sort of needs that other caravaners do not have .. after all gypsys and travellers are now a recognised ethnic group like the French the welsh the scots or the native americans and I don't think the tax payer would be to pleased to have council tax spent in large amounts on these groups and I don't think they would expect us too... so why gypsy and travellers ?? or is it a reason that no can speak of !! When I leave a camp sitei leave no sign I was there apart from the site owner has a little more money in his pocket ... maybe the council can give out vouchers for established campsite to those deserving cases that way we wont destroy the countryside and the site owners will ensure that all is left clean and tidy and the camp site rules are followed. .. just a thought !!!
Dorset has lots of caravan sites, large and small from £8 a night to over £30 surely these " travellers" can find a site that suits them rather that to over burdened tax pay catering to there whims and wants.. or do travellers have some sort of needs that other caravaners do not have .. after all gypsys and travellers are now a recognised ethnic group like the French the welsh the scots or the native americans and I don't think the tax payer would be to pleased to have council tax spent in large amounts on these groups and I don't think they would expect us too... so why gypsy and travellers ?? or is it a reason that no can speak of !! When I leave a camp sitei leave no sign I was there apart from the site owner has a little more money in his pocket ... maybe the council can give out vouchers for established campsite to those deserving cases that way we wont destroy the countryside and the site owners will ensure that all is left clean and tidy and the camp site rules are followed. .. just a thought !!! Chris the plumber
  • Score: 25

9:36am Sun 19 Jan 14

skydriver says...

Another waste of money they should be pleased to be given anything , especially as they don't pay a penny for anything .
Another waste of money they should be pleased to be given anything , especially as they don't pay a penny for anything . skydriver
  • Score: 27

9:40am Sun 19 Jan 14

JustForPoole says...

Chris the plumber wrote:
Dorset has lots of caravan sites, large and small from £8 a night to over £30 surely these " travellers" can find a site that suits them rather that to over burdened tax pay catering to there whims and wants.. or do travellers have some sort of needs that other caravaners do not have .. after all gypsys and travellers are now a recognised ethnic group like the French the welsh the scots or the native americans and I don't think the tax payer would be to pleased to have council tax spent in large amounts on these groups and I don't think they would expect us too... so why gypsy and travellers ?? or is it a reason that no can speak of !! When I leave a camp sitei leave no sign I was there apart from the site owner has a little more money in his pocket ... maybe the council can give out vouchers for established campsite to those deserving cases that way we wont destroy the countryside and the site owners will ensure that all is left clean and tidy and the camp site rules are followed. .. just a thought !!!
Chris ... please carry on plumbing!!! These so called "travellers" would not be wanted or accepted on a conventional campsite. Normal law abiding campers would never go back to a site if there the thought of a traveller invasion with all their associated filth and anti social behavior. Get a job lot with a ferry company and ship the whole **** lot of them back to where they came from!!!
[quote][p][bold]Chris the plumber[/bold] wrote: Dorset has lots of caravan sites, large and small from £8 a night to over £30 surely these " travellers" can find a site that suits them rather that to over burdened tax pay catering to there whims and wants.. or do travellers have some sort of needs that other caravaners do not have .. after all gypsys and travellers are now a recognised ethnic group like the French the welsh the scots or the native americans and I don't think the tax payer would be to pleased to have council tax spent in large amounts on these groups and I don't think they would expect us too... so why gypsy and travellers ?? or is it a reason that no can speak of !! When I leave a camp sitei leave no sign I was there apart from the site owner has a little more money in his pocket ... maybe the council can give out vouchers for established campsite to those deserving cases that way we wont destroy the countryside and the site owners will ensure that all is left clean and tidy and the camp site rules are followed. .. just a thought !!![/p][/quote]Chris ... please carry on plumbing!!! These so called "travellers" would not be wanted or accepted on a conventional campsite. Normal law abiding campers would never go back to a site if there the thought of a traveller invasion with all their associated filth and anti social behavior. Get a job lot with a ferry company and ship the whole **** lot of them back to where they came from!!! JustForPoole
  • Score: 23

9:51am Sun 19 Jan 14

losthope says...

Excuse me, while we're asking where people would like to live, I'd like to live in Sandbanks, but I don't want to pay for it. When can I expect to get my letter allocating me a nice house?

The rest of us have to live where we can afford to, and pay rates to the Council for the privelege with, it seems, steadily less and less in return. (Just forked out £51 for a residents parking permit in an area where it's getting harder and harder to find a space. I have to lug our rubbish and recycling down to the end of the street to be collected, and street cleaning and lighting is a joke.)

So how about some equal treatment for residents here? And say to the Gypsy Council that if they want to choose where they camp then they need to buy and maintain their own site.
Excuse me, while we're asking where people would like to live, I'd like to live in Sandbanks, but I don't want to pay for it. When can I expect to get my letter allocating me a nice house? The rest of us have to live where we can afford to, and pay rates to the Council for the privelege with, it seems, steadily less and less in return. (Just forked out £51 for a residents parking permit in an area where it's getting harder and harder to find a space. I have to lug our rubbish and recycling down to the end of the street to be collected, and street cleaning and lighting is a joke.) So how about some equal treatment for residents here? And say to the Gypsy Council that if they want to choose where they camp then they need to buy and maintain their own site. losthope
  • Score: 29

10:07am Sun 19 Jan 14

i have heard it all now says...

Plenty of Copper pipe in the Royal Bath Hotel,We need these people to keep the country on a sound footing.

Who else can cut hedges,Pressure wash your drive or Rob you blind?
Plenty of Copper pipe in the Royal Bath Hotel,We need these people to keep the country on a sound footing. Who else can cut hedges,Pressure wash your drive or Rob you blind? i have heard it all now
  • Score: 10

10:28am Sun 19 Jan 14

Chris the plumber says...

JustForPoole wrote:
Chris the plumber wrote:
Dorset has lots of caravan sites, large and small from £8 a night to over £30 surely these " travellers" can find a site that suits them rather that to over burdened tax pay catering to there whims and wants.. or do travellers have some sort of needs that other caravaners do not have .. after all gypsys and travellers are now a recognised ethnic group like the French the welsh the scots or the native americans and I don't think the tax payer would be to pleased to have council tax spent in large amounts on these groups and I don't think they would expect us too... so why gypsy and travellers ?? or is it a reason that no can speak of !! When I leave a camp sitei leave no sign I was there apart from the site owner has a little more money in his pocket ... maybe the council can give out vouchers for established campsite to those deserving cases that way we wont destroy the countryside and the site owners will ensure that all is left clean and tidy and the camp site rules are followed. .. just a thought !!!
Chris ... please carry on plumbing!!! These so called "travellers" would not be wanted or accepted on a conventional campsite. Normal law abiding campers would never go back to a site if there the thought of a traveller invasion with all their associated filth and anti social behavior. Get a job lot with a ferry company and ship the whole **** lot of them back to where they came from!!!
Just F or Poole .. I think you are being very rude and as such I find your comments very racist.
My idea has merit as you well know .. you need to keep your rasist
comments to yourself.. Filth and anti social behaviour can be attributed to any social group even white middle class british people of poole..
[quote][p][bold]JustForPoole[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chris the plumber[/bold] wrote: Dorset has lots of caravan sites, large and small from £8 a night to over £30 surely these " travellers" can find a site that suits them rather that to over burdened tax pay catering to there whims and wants.. or do travellers have some sort of needs that other caravaners do not have .. after all gypsys and travellers are now a recognised ethnic group like the French the welsh the scots or the native americans and I don't think the tax payer would be to pleased to have council tax spent in large amounts on these groups and I don't think they would expect us too... so why gypsy and travellers ?? or is it a reason that no can speak of !! When I leave a camp sitei leave no sign I was there apart from the site owner has a little more money in his pocket ... maybe the council can give out vouchers for established campsite to those deserving cases that way we wont destroy the countryside and the site owners will ensure that all is left clean and tidy and the camp site rules are followed. .. just a thought !!![/p][/quote]Chris ... please carry on plumbing!!! These so called "travellers" would not be wanted or accepted on a conventional campsite. Normal law abiding campers would never go back to a site if there the thought of a traveller invasion with all their associated filth and anti social behavior. Get a job lot with a ferry company and ship the whole **** lot of them back to where they came from!!![/p][/quote]Just F or Poole .. I think you are being very rude and as such I find your comments very racist. My idea has merit as you well know .. you need to keep your rasist comments to yourself.. Filth and anti social behaviour can be attributed to any social group even white middle class british people of poole.. Chris the plumber
  • Score: -25

10:32am Sun 19 Jan 14

wonderway says...

Joe Jones, chairman of the Gypsy Council, called for consultation with the gypsy and traveller population over where they would like to live.

they should live where ever they are now, not dump them selves were ever they chose

if they refuse the offer put forward they should be like council tenants and class it as a refusal and removed straight away with no other place in brough avaliable
Joe Jones, chairman of the Gypsy Council, called for consultation with the gypsy and traveller population over where they would like to live. they should live where ever they are now, not dump them selves were ever they chose if they refuse the offer put forward they should be like council tenants and class it as a refusal and removed straight away with no other place in brough avaliable wonderway
  • Score: 16

10:50am Sun 19 Jan 14

nickynoodah says...

He said it was unfair to “put the failures of those in power, on our shoulders” due to a lack of political will. And he said no-one had taken into account the growth rate of the population.

“A 12 pitch site soon becomes overcrowded,

and that's just ONE family you knpw
He said it was unfair to “put the failures of those in power, on our shoulders” due to a lack of political will. And he said no-one had taken into account the growth rate of the population. “A 12 pitch site soon becomes overcrowded, and that's just ONE family you knpw nickynoodah
  • Score: 4

10:59am Sun 19 Jan 14

muscliffman says...

Go and consult these 'Irish Travellers' by all means, but please take all the Council invoices for the past few years of cleaning up after them with you - and don't return without full cash payment!

But does anyone remember the general population of the UK being consulted in the remotest way about recognising these 'Irish Travellers' as an ethnic group - one which appears to be above the rules of normal UK law and order?

The Irish (Republic) apparently do NOT ethnically recognise these 'Irish Traveller' people, it's high time we took the same position.
Go and consult these 'Irish Travellers' by all means, but please take all the Council invoices for the past few years of cleaning up after them with you - and don't return without full cash payment! But does anyone remember the general population of the UK being consulted in the remotest way about recognising these 'Irish Travellers' as an ethnic group - one which appears to be above the rules of normal UK law and order? The Irish (Republic) apparently do NOT ethnically recognise these 'Irish Traveller' people, it's high time we took the same position. muscliffman
  • Score: 17

12:33pm Sun 19 Jan 14

Ebb Tide says...

BIGTONE wrote:
"He said: “We have and are willing to help in this process, through the consultation of the local gypsy and traveller population, who might in fact welcome being asked where they would like to live, rather than being told where to reside."


Let me see......Ohhhh the seafront would be nice.......yea right!!!
An offer to consult is very helpful ! However would the Gypsy Council have the mandate to consult for and on behalf of all the 'travellers' that have blighted our limited recreational public open spaces these past few years ? It is suspected that many of the 'travellers' that we have experienced are outside the sphere of influence provided by the Gypsy Council.

A suitable clarification will be appreciated, but who could provide it ?,
[quote][p][bold]BIGTONE[/bold] wrote: "He said: “We have and are willing to help in this process, through the consultation of the local gypsy and traveller population, who might in fact welcome being asked where they would like to live, rather than being told where to reside." Let me see......Ohhhh the seafront would be nice.......yea right!!![/p][/quote]An offer to consult is very helpful ! However would the Gypsy Council have the mandate to consult for and on behalf of all the 'travellers' that have blighted our limited recreational public open spaces these past few years ? It is suspected that many of the 'travellers' that we have experienced are outside the sphere of influence provided by the Gypsy Council. A suitable clarification will be appreciated, but who could provide it ?, Ebb Tide
  • Score: 6

12:34pm Sun 19 Jan 14

manyogie says...

nickynoodah wrote:
The best thing about these gypsies is the bare fist fights that they have with their mates and cousins
I have see lots of them in Derbyshire
and participated bandaged knuckles only
I love the gypsy wenches and boxers.
And then receive expensive NHS treatment, towards which nothing has been contributed.
[quote][p][bold]nickynoodah[/bold] wrote: The best thing about these gypsies is the bare fist fights that they have with their mates and cousins I have see lots of them in Derbyshire and participated bandaged knuckles only I love the gypsy wenches and boxers.[/p][/quote]And then receive expensive NHS treatment, towards which nothing has been contributed. manyogie
  • Score: 8

12:57pm Sun 19 Jan 14

Jo__Go says...

When they pay Poole council tax, they can expect to be consulted...
When they pay Poole council tax, they can expect to be consulted... Jo__Go
  • Score: 11

1:59pm Sun 19 Jan 14

kalebmoledirt says...

OUT of curiosity are there any council owned caravan sites.If so they could stay there for the same fee as an holiday maker(travelling )through
If a private caravan park owner denied them access.Would they be charged with some sort of discrimination.like the land lady this would not allow a gay couple use one of their bedrooms.a serious question
OUT of curiosity are there any council owned caravan sites.If so they could stay there for the same fee as an holiday maker(travelling )through If a private caravan park owner denied them access.Would they be charged with some sort of discrimination.like the land lady this would not allow a gay couple use one of their bedrooms.a serious question kalebmoledirt
  • Score: 3

2:10pm Sun 19 Jan 14

JustForPoole says...

Chris the plumber wrote:
JustForPoole wrote:
Chris the plumber wrote:
Dorset has lots of caravan sites, large and small from £8 a night to over £30 surely these " travellers" can find a site that suits them rather that to over burdened tax pay catering to there whims and wants.. or do travellers have some sort of needs that other caravaners do not have .. after all gypsys and travellers are now a recognised ethnic group like the French the welsh the scots or the native americans and I don't think the tax payer would be to pleased to have council tax spent in large amounts on these groups and I don't think they would expect us too... so why gypsy and travellers ?? or is it a reason that no can speak of !! When I leave a camp sitei leave no sign I was there apart from the site owner has a little more money in his pocket ... maybe the council can give out vouchers for established campsite to those deserving cases that way we wont destroy the countryside and the site owners will ensure that all is left clean and tidy and the camp site rules are followed. .. just a thought !!!
Chris ... please carry on plumbing!!! These so called "travellers" would not be wanted or accepted on a conventional campsite. Normal law abiding campers would never go back to a site if there the thought of a traveller invasion with all their associated filth and anti social behavior. Get a job lot with a ferry company and ship the whole **** lot of them back to where they came from!!!
Just F or Poole .. I think you are being very rude and as such I find your comments very racist.
My idea has merit as you well know .. you need to keep your rasist
comments to yourself.. Filth and anti social behaviour can be attributed to any social group even white middle class british people of poole..
Not a lot of agreement with your response !!!!!
[quote][p][bold]Chris the plumber[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JustForPoole[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chris the plumber[/bold] wrote: Dorset has lots of caravan sites, large and small from £8 a night to over £30 surely these " travellers" can find a site that suits them rather that to over burdened tax pay catering to there whims and wants.. or do travellers have some sort of needs that other caravaners do not have .. after all gypsys and travellers are now a recognised ethnic group like the French the welsh the scots or the native americans and I don't think the tax payer would be to pleased to have council tax spent in large amounts on these groups and I don't think they would expect us too... so why gypsy and travellers ?? or is it a reason that no can speak of !! When I leave a camp sitei leave no sign I was there apart from the site owner has a little more money in his pocket ... maybe the council can give out vouchers for established campsite to those deserving cases that way we wont destroy the countryside and the site owners will ensure that all is left clean and tidy and the camp site rules are followed. .. just a thought !!![/p][/quote]Chris ... please carry on plumbing!!! These so called "travellers" would not be wanted or accepted on a conventional campsite. Normal law abiding campers would never go back to a site if there the thought of a traveller invasion with all their associated filth and anti social behavior. Get a job lot with a ferry company and ship the whole **** lot of them back to where they came from!!![/p][/quote]Just F or Poole .. I think you are being very rude and as such I find your comments very racist. My idea has merit as you well know .. you need to keep your rasist comments to yourself.. Filth and anti social behaviour can be attributed to any social group even white middle class british people of poole..[/p][/quote]Not a lot of agreement with your response !!!!! JustForPoole
  • Score: 3

2:40pm Sun 19 Jan 14

kalebmoledirt says...

Call in Joe Jones to pick where he thinks his constituents would like to live .now that's sort of bloke I want to head my councile I,d want the Sandbanks peninsula'lets have a sweepstakes where he wants his people to camp.bet it,s nowhere near where near where the rate payers want them
Call in Joe Jones to pick where he thinks his constituents would like to live .now that's sort of bloke I want to head my councile I,d want the Sandbanks peninsula'lets have a sweepstakes where he wants his people to camp.bet it,s nowhere near where near where the rate payers want them kalebmoledirt
  • Score: 0

2:48pm Sun 19 Jan 14

Desperado says...

Jo__Go wrote:
When they pay Poole council tax, they can expect to be consulted...
If this goes ahead, I don't think I will bother paying anymore council tax.
I would urge others to do the same.
[quote][p][bold]Jo__Go[/bold] wrote: When they pay Poole council tax, they can expect to be consulted...[/p][/quote]If this goes ahead, I don't think I will bother paying anymore council tax. I would urge others to do the same. Desperado
  • Score: 6

3:51pm Sun 19 Jan 14

Daniel lashmar says...

Chris the plumber wrote:
JustForPoole wrote:
Chris the plumber wrote:
Dorset has lots of caravan sites, large and small from £8 a night to over £30 surely these " travellers" can find a site that suits them rather that to over burdened tax pay catering to there whims and wants.. or do travellers have some sort of needs that other caravaners do not have .. after all gypsys and travellers are now a recognised ethnic group like the French the welsh the scots or the native americans and I don't think the tax payer would be to pleased to have council tax spent in large amounts on these groups and I don't think they would expect us too... so why gypsy and travellers ?? or is it a reason that no can speak of !! When I leave a camp sitei leave no sign I was there apart from the site owner has a little more money in his pocket ... maybe the council can give out vouchers for established campsite to those deserving cases that way we wont destroy the countryside and the site owners will ensure that all is left clean and tidy and the camp site rules are followed. .. just a thought !!!
Chris ... please carry on plumbing!!! These so called "travellers" would not be wanted or accepted on a conventional campsite. Normal law abiding campers would never go back to a site if there the thought of a traveller invasion with all their associated filth and anti social behavior. Get a job lot with a ferry company and ship the whole **** lot of them back to where they came from!!!
Just F or Poole .. I think you are being very rude and as such I find your comments very racist.
My idea has merit as you well know .. you need to keep your rasist
comments to yourself.. Filth and anti social behaviour can be attributed to any social group even white middle class british people of poole..
no your racist
[quote][p][bold]Chris the plumber[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JustForPoole[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chris the plumber[/bold] wrote: Dorset has lots of caravan sites, large and small from £8 a night to over £30 surely these " travellers" can find a site that suits them rather that to over burdened tax pay catering to there whims and wants.. or do travellers have some sort of needs that other caravaners do not have .. after all gypsys and travellers are now a recognised ethnic group like the French the welsh the scots or the native americans and I don't think the tax payer would be to pleased to have council tax spent in large amounts on these groups and I don't think they would expect us too... so why gypsy and travellers ?? or is it a reason that no can speak of !! When I leave a camp sitei leave no sign I was there apart from the site owner has a little more money in his pocket ... maybe the council can give out vouchers for established campsite to those deserving cases that way we wont destroy the countryside and the site owners will ensure that all is left clean and tidy and the camp site rules are followed. .. just a thought !!![/p][/quote]Chris ... please carry on plumbing!!! These so called "travellers" would not be wanted or accepted on a conventional campsite. Normal law abiding campers would never go back to a site if there the thought of a traveller invasion with all their associated filth and anti social behavior. Get a job lot with a ferry company and ship the whole **** lot of them back to where they came from!!![/p][/quote]Just F or Poole .. I think you are being very rude and as such I find your comments very racist. My idea has merit as you well know .. you need to keep your rasist comments to yourself.. Filth and anti social behaviour can be attributed to any social group even white middle class british people of poole..[/p][/quote]no your racist Daniel lashmar
  • Score: -5

4:09pm Sun 19 Jan 14

bourne free says...

There seem to be a lot of big wigs shouting there intentions off but as soon as summer comes and the p1keys dump themselves all around the area these people hide back in there holes ??
There seem to be a lot of big wigs shouting there intentions off but as soon as summer comes and the p1keys dump themselves all around the area these people hide back in there holes ?? bourne free
  • Score: 2

4:56pm Sun 19 Jan 14

JustForPoole says...

Daniel lashmar wrote:
Chris the plumber wrote:
JustForPoole wrote:
Chris the plumber wrote:
Dorset has lots of caravan sites, large and small from £8 a night to over £30 surely these " travellers" can find a site that suits them rather that to over burdened tax pay catering to there whims and wants.. or do travellers have some sort of needs that other caravaners do not have .. after all gypsys and travellers are now a recognised ethnic group like the French the welsh the scots or the native americans and I don't think the tax payer would be to pleased to have council tax spent in large amounts on these groups and I don't think they would expect us too... so why gypsy and travellers ?? or is it a reason that no can speak of !! When I leave a camp sitei leave no sign I was there apart from the site owner has a little more money in his pocket ... maybe the council can give out vouchers for established campsite to those deserving cases that way we wont destroy the countryside and the site owners will ensure that all is left clean and tidy and the camp site rules are followed. .. just a thought !!!
Chris ... please carry on plumbing!!! These so called "travellers" would not be wanted or accepted on a conventional campsite. Normal law abiding campers would never go back to a site if there the thought of a traveller invasion with all their associated filth and anti social behavior. Get a job lot with a ferry company and ship the whole **** lot of them back to where they came from!!!
Just F or Poole .. I think you are being very rude and as such I find your comments very racist.
My idea has merit as you well know .. you need to keep your rasist
comments to yourself.. Filth and anti social behaviour can be attributed to any social group even white middle class british people of poole..
no your racist
Mainly for Chris the Plumber .... I am not in the least racist ... I live at Baiter and have observed the "travellers" during their stay last year. I also took dogs on walks to Whitecliff when the "travellers" were there. I had the misfortune to be in the Red Lion at Hamworthy when the "travellers", who had broken into Turlin Moor Rec decided to come for drinks and spoil the evening for everyone else with their fights, bad language, push to the front of the queue etc etc etc. All of my comments are from first hand observations ... not yet started on the third party comments from last year regarding such things as shop lifting £600 goods from Primark, brandishing a knife at local residents etc etc etc. My comments would be exactly the same regardless of whether they were white/black, Chinese or Japanese, Irish or Welsh, traveller or gypsy ... when they pay their way, obey the laws of the land, use basic hygene procedures and learn social behaviour, then and only then should they be allowed to make camp!!!
[quote][p][bold]Daniel lashmar[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chris the plumber[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JustForPoole[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chris the plumber[/bold] wrote: Dorset has lots of caravan sites, large and small from £8 a night to over £30 surely these " travellers" can find a site that suits them rather that to over burdened tax pay catering to there whims and wants.. or do travellers have some sort of needs that other caravaners do not have .. after all gypsys and travellers are now a recognised ethnic group like the French the welsh the scots or the native americans and I don't think the tax payer would be to pleased to have council tax spent in large amounts on these groups and I don't think they would expect us too... so why gypsy and travellers ?? or is it a reason that no can speak of !! When I leave a camp sitei leave no sign I was there apart from the site owner has a little more money in his pocket ... maybe the council can give out vouchers for established campsite to those deserving cases that way we wont destroy the countryside and the site owners will ensure that all is left clean and tidy and the camp site rules are followed. .. just a thought !!![/p][/quote]Chris ... please carry on plumbing!!! These so called "travellers" would not be wanted or accepted on a conventional campsite. Normal law abiding campers would never go back to a site if there the thought of a traveller invasion with all their associated filth and anti social behavior. Get a job lot with a ferry company and ship the whole **** lot of them back to where they came from!!![/p][/quote]Just F or Poole .. I think you are being very rude and as such I find your comments very racist. My idea has merit as you well know .. you need to keep your rasist comments to yourself.. Filth and anti social behaviour can be attributed to any social group even white middle class british people of poole..[/p][/quote]no your racist[/p][/quote]Mainly for Chris the Plumber .... I am not in the least racist ... I live at Baiter and have observed the "travellers" during their stay last year. I also took dogs on walks to Whitecliff when the "travellers" were there. I had the misfortune to be in the Red Lion at Hamworthy when the "travellers", who had broken into Turlin Moor Rec decided to come for drinks and spoil the evening for everyone else with their fights, bad language, push to the front of the queue etc etc etc. All of my comments are from first hand observations ... not yet started on the third party comments from last year regarding such things as shop lifting £600 goods from Primark, brandishing a knife at local residents etc etc etc. My comments would be exactly the same regardless of whether they were white/black, Chinese or Japanese, Irish or Welsh, traveller or gypsy ... when they pay their way, obey the laws of the land, use basic hygene procedures and learn social behaviour, then and only then should they be allowed to make camp!!! JustForPoole
  • Score: 10

5:23pm Sun 19 Jan 14

ashleycross says...

"waded in"-this is what the council is for, a voice to promote the views of their community. Better to jaw jaw jaw than war war war, even if it isn't as exciting for journalists to report on.
The current problem is that the whole of Poole is a temporary transit site, court orders are very hard to come by to move people on because of the lack of official site and finally Poole is getting cracking on doing something about this problem.
Google-fu Daily Echo, and research some of these stories rather than just do a Daily Mail on them of stirring up hatred and fear between people.
And councillor white, this is nonsense, a sight in Poole will be "available " in legal term to travellers in Bournemouth and vice versa. Whoever is giving you legal advice hasn't grasped the basics I'm afraid.
"waded in"-this is what the council is for, a voice to promote the views of their community. Better to jaw jaw jaw than war war war, even if it isn't as exciting for journalists to report on. The current problem is that the whole of Poole is a temporary transit site, court orders are very hard to come by to move people on because of the lack of official site and finally Poole is getting cracking on doing something about this problem. Google-fu Daily Echo, and research some of these stories rather than just do a Daily Mail on them of stirring up hatred and fear between people. And councillor white, this is nonsense, a sight in Poole will be "available " in legal term to travellers in Bournemouth and vice versa. Whoever is giving you legal advice hasn't grasped the basics I'm afraid. ashleycross
  • Score: -2

5:35pm Sun 19 Jan 14

loftusrod says...

Daniel lashmar wrote:
Chris the plumber wrote:
JustForPoole wrote:
Chris the plumber wrote:
Dorset has lots of caravan sites, large and small from £8 a night to over £30 surely these " travellers" can find a site that suits them rather that to over burdened tax pay catering to there whims and wants.. or do travellers have some sort of needs that other caravaners do not have .. after all gypsys and travellers are now a recognised ethnic group like the French the welsh the scots or the native americans and I don't think the tax payer would be to pleased to have council tax spent in large amounts on these groups and I don't think they would expect us too... so why gypsy and travellers ?? or is it a reason that no can speak of !! When I leave a camp sitei leave no sign I was there apart from the site owner has a little more money in his pocket ... maybe the council can give out vouchers for established campsite to those deserving cases that way we wont destroy the countryside and the site owners will ensure that all is left clean and tidy and the camp site rules are followed. .. just a thought !!!
Chris ... please carry on plumbing!!! These so called "travellers" would not be wanted or accepted on a conventional campsite. Normal law abiding campers would never go back to a site if there the thought of a traveller invasion with all their associated filth and anti social behavior. Get a job lot with a ferry company and ship the whole **** lot of them back to where they came from!!!
Just F or Poole .. I think you are being very rude and as such I find your comments very racist.
My idea has merit as you well know .. you need to keep your rasist
comments to yourself.. Filth and anti social behaviour can be attributed to any social group even white middle class british people of poole..
no your racist
Your racist what?
You seem to have not finished your sentence.
[quote][p][bold]Daniel lashmar[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chris the plumber[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JustForPoole[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chris the plumber[/bold] wrote: Dorset has lots of caravan sites, large and small from £8 a night to over £30 surely these " travellers" can find a site that suits them rather that to over burdened tax pay catering to there whims and wants.. or do travellers have some sort of needs that other caravaners do not have .. after all gypsys and travellers are now a recognised ethnic group like the French the welsh the scots or the native americans and I don't think the tax payer would be to pleased to have council tax spent in large amounts on these groups and I don't think they would expect us too... so why gypsy and travellers ?? or is it a reason that no can speak of !! When I leave a camp sitei leave no sign I was there apart from the site owner has a little more money in his pocket ... maybe the council can give out vouchers for established campsite to those deserving cases that way we wont destroy the countryside and the site owners will ensure that all is left clean and tidy and the camp site rules are followed. .. just a thought !!![/p][/quote]Chris ... please carry on plumbing!!! These so called "travellers" would not be wanted or accepted on a conventional campsite. Normal law abiding campers would never go back to a site if there the thought of a traveller invasion with all their associated filth and anti social behavior. Get a job lot with a ferry company and ship the whole **** lot of them back to where they came from!!![/p][/quote]Just F or Poole .. I think you are being very rude and as such I find your comments very racist. My idea has merit as you well know .. you need to keep your rasist comments to yourself.. Filth and anti social behaviour can be attributed to any social group even white middle class british people of poole..[/p][/quote]no your racist[/p][/quote]Your racist what? You seem to have not finished your sentence. loftusrod
  • Score: -1

5:54pm Sun 19 Jan 14

liebert says...

I was under the impression that a designated camp/caravan site with services existed at Mannings Heath for these folks in transit.
If this is not the case, why has it changed, and can it be restored,
and end this problem.
I was under the impression that a designated camp/caravan site with services existed at Mannings Heath for these folks in transit. If this is not the case, why has it changed, and can it be restored, and end this problem. liebert
  • Score: 0

5:56pm Sun 19 Jan 14

muscliffman says...

bourne free wrote:
There seem to be a lot of big wigs shouting there intentions off but as soon as summer comes and the p1keys dump themselves all around the area these people hide back in there holes ??
Never usually one to miss a media opportunity our pointless PCC did an out of character and quite spectacular disappearing act for about four weeks when they arrived last year, so you are probably right!
[quote][p][bold]bourne free[/bold] wrote: There seem to be a lot of big wigs shouting there intentions off but as soon as summer comes and the p1keys dump themselves all around the area these people hide back in there holes ??[/p][/quote]Never usually one to miss a media opportunity our pointless PCC did an out of character and quite spectacular disappearing act for about four weeks when they arrived last year, so you are probably right! muscliffman
  • Score: 5

6:05pm Sun 19 Jan 14

JustForPoole says...

liebert wrote:
I was under the impression that a designated camp/caravan site with services existed at Mannings Heath for these folks in transit.
If this is not the case, why has it changed, and can it be restored,
and end this problem.
Cast your eyes on Google Earth ... Yarrow Close, POOLE ... then go to the StreetView to get a good close up of how our hard earned money has been spent ????
[quote][p][bold]liebert[/bold] wrote: I was under the impression that a designated camp/caravan site with services existed at Mannings Heath for these folks in transit. If this is not the case, why has it changed, and can it be restored, and end this problem.[/p][/quote]Cast your eyes on Google Earth ... Yarrow Close, POOLE ... then go to the StreetView to get a good close up of how our hard earned money has been spent ???? JustForPoole
  • Score: 3

6:17pm Sun 19 Jan 14

muscliffman says...

ashleycross wrote:
"waded in"-this is what the council is for, a voice to promote the views of their community. Better to jaw jaw jaw than war war war, even if it isn't as exciting for journalists to report on.
The current problem is that the whole of Poole is a temporary transit site, court orders are very hard to come by to move people on because of the lack of official site and finally Poole is getting cracking on doing something about this problem.
Google-fu Daily Echo, and research some of these stories rather than just do a Daily Mail on them of stirring up hatred and fear between people.
And councillor white, this is nonsense, a sight in Poole will be "available " in legal term to travellers in Bournemouth and vice versa. Whoever is giving you legal advice hasn't grasped the basics I'm afraid.
What a strange thing to say " rather than just do a Daily Mail on them of stirring up hatred and fear between people".

I think most people would regard a lawless group of folk who turn up uninvited, illegally invade public land, leave it an appalling state and generally get up to no good whilst in town are doing a far better job of stirring up hatred between people than anybody who sits peacefully reading opinions in ANY of the popular national newspapers!
[quote][p][bold]ashleycross[/bold] wrote: "waded in"-this is what the council is for, a voice to promote the views of their community. Better to jaw jaw jaw than war war war, even if it isn't as exciting for journalists to report on. The current problem is that the whole of Poole is a temporary transit site, court orders are very hard to come by to move people on because of the lack of official site and finally Poole is getting cracking on doing something about this problem. Google-fu Daily Echo, and research some of these stories rather than just do a Daily Mail on them of stirring up hatred and fear between people. And councillor white, this is nonsense, a sight in Poole will be "available " in legal term to travellers in Bournemouth and vice versa. Whoever is giving you legal advice hasn't grasped the basics I'm afraid.[/p][/quote]What a strange thing to say " rather than just do a Daily Mail on them of stirring up hatred and fear between people". I think most people would regard a lawless group of folk who turn up uninvited, illegally invade public land, leave it an appalling state and generally get up to no good whilst in town are doing a far better job of stirring up hatred between people than anybody who sits peacefully reading opinions in ANY of the popular national newspapers! muscliffman
  • Score: 4

7:36pm Sun 19 Jan 14

Chris the plumber says...

JustForPoole wrote:
Daniel lashmar wrote:
Chris the plumber wrote:
JustForPoole wrote:
Chris the plumber wrote:
Dorset has lots of caravan sites, large and small from £8 a night to over £30 surely these " travellers" can find a site that suits them rather that to over burdened tax pay catering to there whims and wants.. or do travellers have some sort of needs that other caravaners do not have .. after all gypsys and travellers are now a recognised ethnic group like the French the welsh the scots or the native americans and I don't think the tax payer would be to pleased to have council tax spent in large amounts on these groups and I don't think they would expect us too... so why gypsy and travellers ?? or is it a reason that no can speak of !! When I leave a camp sitei leave no sign I was there apart from the site owner has a little more money in his pocket ... maybe the council can give out vouchers for established campsite to those deserving cases that way we wont destroy the countryside and the site owners will ensure that all is left clean and tidy and the camp site rules are followed. .. just a thought !!!
Chris ... please carry on plumbing!!! These so called "travellers" would not be wanted or accepted on a conventional campsite. Normal law abiding campers would never go back to a site if there the thought of a traveller invasion with all their associated filth and anti social behavior. Get a job lot with a ferry company and ship the whole **** lot of them back to where they came from!!!
Just F or Poole .. I think you are being very rude and as such I find your comments very racist.
My idea has merit as you well know .. you need to keep your rasist
comments to yourself.. Filth and anti social behaviour can be attributed to any social group even white middle class british people of poole..
no your racist
Mainly for Chris the Plumber .... I am not in the least racist ... I live at Baiter and have observed the "travellers" during their stay last year. I also took dogs on walks to Whitecliff when the "travellers" were there. I had the misfortune to be in the Red Lion at Hamworthy when the "travellers", who had broken into Turlin Moor Rec decided to come for drinks and spoil the evening for everyone else with their fights, bad language, push to the front of the queue etc etc etc. All of my comments are from first hand observations ... not yet started on the third party comments from last year regarding such things as shop lifting £600 goods from Primark, brandishing a knife at local residents etc etc etc. My comments would be exactly the same regardless of whether they were white/black, Chinese or Japanese, Irish or Welsh, traveller or gypsy ... when they pay their way, obey the laws of the land, use basic hygene procedures and learn social behaviour, then and only then should they be allowed to make camp!!!
..
so are you saying from your first hand observations all the crime in the area is down to one ethnic group ?
It would seem if we avoid you we avoid trouble .. maybe they are following you hehe
[quote][p][bold]JustForPoole[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Daniel lashmar[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chris the plumber[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JustForPoole[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chris the plumber[/bold] wrote: Dorset has lots of caravan sites, large and small from £8 a night to over £30 surely these " travellers" can find a site that suits them rather that to over burdened tax pay catering to there whims and wants.. or do travellers have some sort of needs that other caravaners do not have .. after all gypsys and travellers are now a recognised ethnic group like the French the welsh the scots or the native americans and I don't think the tax payer would be to pleased to have council tax spent in large amounts on these groups and I don't think they would expect us too... so why gypsy and travellers ?? or is it a reason that no can speak of !! When I leave a camp sitei leave no sign I was there apart from the site owner has a little more money in his pocket ... maybe the council can give out vouchers for established campsite to those deserving cases that way we wont destroy the countryside and the site owners will ensure that all is left clean and tidy and the camp site rules are followed. .. just a thought !!![/p][/quote]Chris ... please carry on plumbing!!! These so called "travellers" would not be wanted or accepted on a conventional campsite. Normal law abiding campers would never go back to a site if there the thought of a traveller invasion with all their associated filth and anti social behavior. Get a job lot with a ferry company and ship the whole **** lot of them back to where they came from!!![/p][/quote]Just F or Poole .. I think you are being very rude and as such I find your comments very racist. My idea has merit as you well know .. you need to keep your rasist comments to yourself.. Filth and anti social behaviour can be attributed to any social group even white middle class british people of poole..[/p][/quote]no your racist[/p][/quote]Mainly for Chris the Plumber .... I am not in the least racist ... I live at Baiter and have observed the "travellers" during their stay last year. I also took dogs on walks to Whitecliff when the "travellers" were there. I had the misfortune to be in the Red Lion at Hamworthy when the "travellers", who had broken into Turlin Moor Rec decided to come for drinks and spoil the evening for everyone else with their fights, bad language, push to the front of the queue etc etc etc. All of my comments are from first hand observations ... not yet started on the third party comments from last year regarding such things as shop lifting £600 goods from Primark, brandishing a knife at local residents etc etc etc. My comments would be exactly the same regardless of whether they were white/black, Chinese or Japanese, Irish or Welsh, traveller or gypsy ... when they pay their way, obey the laws of the land, use basic hygene procedures and learn social behaviour, then and only then should they be allowed to make camp!!![/p][/quote].. so are you saying from your first hand observations all the crime in the area is down to one ethnic group ? It would seem if we avoid you we avoid trouble .. maybe they are following you hehe Chris the plumber
  • Score: -3

9:55pm Sun 19 Jan 14

apm1954 says...

lets not forget we will have the last say on this matter, it is with a X ON THE BALLOT PAPER.
lets not forget we will have the last say on this matter, it is with a X ON THE BALLOT PAPER. apm1954
  • Score: 1

11:34pm Sun 19 Jan 14

poolequarter says...

Chris the plumber wrote:
JustForPoole wrote:
Daniel lashmar wrote:
Chris the plumber wrote:
JustForPoole wrote:
Chris the plumber wrote:
Dorset has lots of caravan sites, large and small from £8 a night to over £30 surely these " travellers" can find a site that suits them rather that to over burdened tax pay catering to there whims and wants.. or do travellers have some sort of needs that other caravaners do not have .. after all gypsys and travellers are now a recognised ethnic group like the French the welsh the scots or the native americans and I don't think the tax payer would be to pleased to have council tax spent in large amounts on these groups and I don't think they would expect us too... so why gypsy and travellers ?? or is it a reason that no can speak of !! When I leave a camp sitei leave no sign I was there apart from the site owner has a little more money in his pocket ... maybe the council can give out vouchers for established campsite to those deserving cases that way we wont destroy the countryside and the site owners will ensure that all is left clean and tidy and the camp site rules are followed. .. just a thought !!!
Chris ... please carry on plumbing!!! These so called "travellers" would not be wanted or accepted on a conventional campsite. Normal law abiding campers would never go back to a site if there the thought of a traveller invasion with all their associated filth and anti social behavior. Get a job lot with a ferry company and ship the whole **** lot of them back to where they came from!!!
Just F or Poole .. I think you are being very rude and as such I find your comments very racist.
My idea has merit as you well know .. you need to keep your rasist
comments to yourself.. Filth and anti social behaviour can be attributed to any social group even white middle class british people of poole..
no your racist
Mainly for Chris the Plumber .... I am not in the least racist ... I live at Baiter and have observed the "travellers" during their stay last year. I also took dogs on walks to Whitecliff when the "travellers" were there. I had the misfortune to be in the Red Lion at Hamworthy when the "travellers", who had broken into Turlin Moor Rec decided to come for drinks and spoil the evening for everyone else with their fights, bad language, push to the front of the queue etc etc etc. All of my comments are from first hand observations ... not yet started on the third party comments from last year regarding such things as shop lifting £600 goods from Primark, brandishing a knife at local residents etc etc etc. My comments would be exactly the same regardless of whether they were white/black, Chinese or Japanese, Irish or Welsh, traveller or gypsy ... when they pay their way, obey the laws of the land, use basic hygene procedures and learn social behaviour, then and only then should they be allowed to make camp!!!
..
so are you saying from your first hand observations all the crime in the area is down to one ethnic group ?
It would seem if we avoid you we avoid trouble .. maybe they are following you hehe
Dont think this plumber guy is all there ... sandwich short of a picnic set! Well said Just For Poole
[quote][p][bold]Chris the plumber[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JustForPoole[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Daniel lashmar[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chris the plumber[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JustForPoole[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chris the plumber[/bold] wrote: Dorset has lots of caravan sites, large and small from £8 a night to over £30 surely these " travellers" can find a site that suits them rather that to over burdened tax pay catering to there whims and wants.. or do travellers have some sort of needs that other caravaners do not have .. after all gypsys and travellers are now a recognised ethnic group like the French the welsh the scots or the native americans and I don't think the tax payer would be to pleased to have council tax spent in large amounts on these groups and I don't think they would expect us too... so why gypsy and travellers ?? or is it a reason that no can speak of !! When I leave a camp sitei leave no sign I was there apart from the site owner has a little more money in his pocket ... maybe the council can give out vouchers for established campsite to those deserving cases that way we wont destroy the countryside and the site owners will ensure that all is left clean and tidy and the camp site rules are followed. .. just a thought !!![/p][/quote]Chris ... please carry on plumbing!!! These so called "travellers" would not be wanted or accepted on a conventional campsite. Normal law abiding campers would never go back to a site if there the thought of a traveller invasion with all their associated filth and anti social behavior. Get a job lot with a ferry company and ship the whole **** lot of them back to where they came from!!![/p][/quote]Just F or Poole .. I think you are being very rude and as such I find your comments very racist. My idea has merit as you well know .. you need to keep your rasist comments to yourself.. Filth and anti social behaviour can be attributed to any social group even white middle class british people of poole..[/p][/quote]no your racist[/p][/quote]Mainly for Chris the Plumber .... I am not in the least racist ... I live at Baiter and have observed the "travellers" during their stay last year. I also took dogs on walks to Whitecliff when the "travellers" were there. I had the misfortune to be in the Red Lion at Hamworthy when the "travellers", who had broken into Turlin Moor Rec decided to come for drinks and spoil the evening for everyone else with their fights, bad language, push to the front of the queue etc etc etc. All of my comments are from first hand observations ... not yet started on the third party comments from last year regarding such things as shop lifting £600 goods from Primark, brandishing a knife at local residents etc etc etc. My comments would be exactly the same regardless of whether they were white/black, Chinese or Japanese, Irish or Welsh, traveller or gypsy ... when they pay their way, obey the laws of the land, use basic hygene procedures and learn social behaviour, then and only then should they be allowed to make camp!!![/p][/quote].. so are you saying from your first hand observations all the crime in the area is down to one ethnic group ? It would seem if we avoid you we avoid trouble .. maybe they are following you hehe[/p][/quote]Dont think this plumber guy is all there ... sandwich short of a picnic set! Well said Just For Poole poolequarter
  • Score: 2

12:05pm Mon 20 Jan 14

lorrai1011 says...

They are being asked where they want to live think about us thst live in the area where the potential sites are. Me and the kids have had hassle from them staying opposite us. I pay my way and do things right but they get the choice.
They are being asked where they want to live think about us thst live in the area where the potential sites are. Me and the kids have had hassle from them staying opposite us. I pay my way and do things right but they get the choice. lorrai1011
  • Score: 0

3:34pm Mon 20 Jan 14

matthew bell says...

muscliffman wrote:
ashleycross wrote: "waded in"-this is what the council is for, a voice to promote the views of their community. Better to jaw jaw jaw than war war war, even if it isn't as exciting for journalists to report on. The current problem is that the whole of Poole is a temporary transit site, court orders are very hard to come by to move people on because of the lack of official site and finally Poole is getting cracking on doing something about this problem. Google-fu Daily Echo, and research some of these stories rather than just do a Daily Mail on them of stirring up hatred and fear between people. And councillor white, this is nonsense, a sight in Poole will be "available " in legal term to travellers in Bournemouth and vice versa. Whoever is giving you legal advice hasn't grasped the basics I'm afraid.
What a strange thing to say " rather than just do a Daily Mail on them of stirring up hatred and fear between people". I think most people would regard a lawless group of folk who turn up uninvited, illegally invade public land, leave it an appalling state and generally get up to no good whilst in town are doing a far better job of stirring up hatred between people than anybody who sits peacefully reading opinions in ANY of the popular national newspapers!
I use to think when the travellers came into Poole (Broadstone) near to me that people exagerated over their behaviour ex.... however when everybody is saying it & I then witness it myself, the traveller community has just lost probably the only open minded resident in the area. I've joined you all in that they are no use to man or dog anywhere in Dorset, probably the world. I will, if I get the chance, vote against any proposal for them to have any site any where in Dorset now. Sorry it took so long (muscliffman) to see you were all right about them!
[quote][p][bold]muscliffman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ashleycross[/bold] wrote: "waded in"-this is what the council is for, a voice to promote the views of their community. Better to jaw jaw jaw than war war war, even if it isn't as exciting for journalists to report on. The current problem is that the whole of Poole is a temporary transit site, court orders are very hard to come by to move people on because of the lack of official site and finally Poole is getting cracking on doing something about this problem. Google-fu Daily Echo, and research some of these stories rather than just do a Daily Mail on them of stirring up hatred and fear between people. And councillor white, this is nonsense, a sight in Poole will be "available " in legal term to travellers in Bournemouth and vice versa. Whoever is giving you legal advice hasn't grasped the basics I'm afraid.[/p][/quote]What a strange thing to say " rather than just do a Daily Mail on them of stirring up hatred and fear between people". I think most people would regard a lawless group of folk who turn up uninvited, illegally invade public land, leave it an appalling state and generally get up to no good whilst in town are doing a far better job of stirring up hatred between people than anybody who sits peacefully reading opinions in ANY of the popular national newspapers![/p][/quote]I use to think when the travellers came into Poole (Broadstone) near to me that people exagerated over their behaviour ex.... however when everybody is saying it & I then witness it myself, the traveller community has just lost probably the only open minded resident in the area. I've joined you all in that they are no use to man or dog anywhere in Dorset, probably the world. I will, if I get the chance, vote against any proposal for them to have any site any where in Dorset now. Sorry it took so long (muscliffman) to see you were all right about them! matthew bell
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4:47pm Mon 20 Jan 14

countrycherry says...

To think we have council staff on £40 + whose sole aim in life is to stop people referring to "travellers" as "pikeys" etc .and to look after their every whim .You can rest assured that they will still have their jobs when all the care homes ,libraries, day centres, youth clubs etc are closed due to "the cuts" ..
To think we have council staff on £40 + whose sole aim in life is to stop people referring to "travellers" as "pikeys" etc .and to look after their every whim .You can rest assured that they will still have their jobs when all the care homes ,libraries, day centres, youth clubs etc are closed due to "the cuts" .. countrycherry
  • Score: 1

4:53pm Mon 20 Jan 14

JustForPoole says...

matthew bell wrote:
muscliffman wrote:
ashleycross wrote: "waded in"-this is what the council is for, a voice to promote the views of their community. Better to jaw jaw jaw than war war war, even if it isn't as exciting for journalists to report on. The current problem is that the whole of Poole is a temporary transit site, court orders are very hard to come by to move people on because of the lack of official site and finally Poole is getting cracking on doing something about this problem. Google-fu Daily Echo, and research some of these stories rather than just do a Daily Mail on them of stirring up hatred and fear between people. And councillor white, this is nonsense, a sight in Poole will be "available " in legal term to travellers in Bournemouth and vice versa. Whoever is giving you legal advice hasn't grasped the basics I'm afraid.
What a strange thing to say " rather than just do a Daily Mail on them of stirring up hatred and fear between people". I think most people would regard a lawless group of folk who turn up uninvited, illegally invade public land, leave it an appalling state and generally get up to no good whilst in town are doing a far better job of stirring up hatred between people than anybody who sits peacefully reading opinions in ANY of the popular national newspapers!
I use to think when the travellers came into Poole (Broadstone) near to me that people exagerated over their behaviour ex.... however when everybody is saying it & I then witness it myself, the traveller community has just lost probably the only open minded resident in the area. I've joined you all in that they are no use to man or dog anywhere in Dorset, probably the world. I will, if I get the chance, vote against any proposal for them to have any site any where in Dorset now. Sorry it took so long (muscliffman) to see you were all right about them!
Couldn`t agree more !!!
[quote][p][bold]matthew bell[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]muscliffman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ashleycross[/bold] wrote: "waded in"-this is what the council is for, a voice to promote the views of their community. Better to jaw jaw jaw than war war war, even if it isn't as exciting for journalists to report on. The current problem is that the whole of Poole is a temporary transit site, court orders are very hard to come by to move people on because of the lack of official site and finally Poole is getting cracking on doing something about this problem. Google-fu Daily Echo, and research some of these stories rather than just do a Daily Mail on them of stirring up hatred and fear between people. And councillor white, this is nonsense, a sight in Poole will be "available " in legal term to travellers in Bournemouth and vice versa. Whoever is giving you legal advice hasn't grasped the basics I'm afraid.[/p][/quote]What a strange thing to say " rather than just do a Daily Mail on them of stirring up hatred and fear between people". I think most people would regard a lawless group of folk who turn up uninvited, illegally invade public land, leave it an appalling state and generally get up to no good whilst in town are doing a far better job of stirring up hatred between people than anybody who sits peacefully reading opinions in ANY of the popular national newspapers![/p][/quote]I use to think when the travellers came into Poole (Broadstone) near to me that people exagerated over their behaviour ex.... however when everybody is saying it & I then witness it myself, the traveller community has just lost probably the only open minded resident in the area. I've joined you all in that they are no use to man or dog anywhere in Dorset, probably the world. I will, if I get the chance, vote against any proposal for them to have any site any where in Dorset now. Sorry it took so long (muscliffman) to see you were all right about them![/p][/quote]Couldn`t agree more !!! JustForPoole
  • Score: 3

6:49pm Mon 27 Jan 14

Gypsyking says...

Joe jones will get the permission like he got me permission on my gypsy site ha ha
Joe jones will get the permission like he got me permission on my gypsy site ha ha Gypsyking
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7:00pm Mon 27 Jan 14

JustForPoole says...

Gypsyking wrote:
Joe jones will get the permission like he got me permission on my gypsy site ha ha
?????????????
[quote][p][bold]Gypsyking[/bold] wrote: Joe jones will get the permission like he got me permission on my gypsy site ha ha[/p][/quote]????????????? JustForPoole
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